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Speaker 1: three hours of some pretty pretty amazing topics. As you heard,

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Speaker 1: Well for us, this morning for others a late morning,

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Speaker 1: the New year, day and time. UM, I want to

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Speaker 1: Obviously from my former team in the city that I

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Speaker 1: know and love so much. The DMV Dwayne Haskins gets

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Speaker 1: released this week. A lot of the discussion points we

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Speaker 1: Game Uh, we talked about just how how things get

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Speaker 1: handled and when you handle things as irresponsibly or or

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Speaker 1: as immature us as Dwayne has handled them, you you

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Speaker 1: put yourself in in a compromising situation. This week we

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Speaker 1: hear from Booger McFarlane his thoughts on this situation in particular.

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Speaker 1: But let's talk about your feeling your first reactions to

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins being let go from released A former first

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Speaker 1: Doesn't surprise me that that's the short I'm not surprised

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Speaker 1: because you saw that he was on thin ice when

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Speaker 1: He made it. He made a bad choice and now

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Speaker 1: he's dealing with the consequence of that bad choice. But

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Speaker 1: Ron Rivera is turning the Redskins around from an organizational

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Speaker 1: Washington football team, they're dysfunctional. They're a dysfunctional organization. And

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Speaker 1: so he gets drafted to the Washington football team and

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Speaker 1: the head coach didn't even want him. And it was

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Speaker 1: public knowledge that the head coach didn't want him. So

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Speaker 1: as a player, when you're a quarterback, and it was said,

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins is talented, but he's gonna need some time.

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Speaker 1: The coach knew he was on a hot seat, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Haskins felt a certain type of way about that.

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Speaker 1: Did he do what he was supposed to do? Absolutely not?

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Speaker 1: Twenty three years old. When you can throw the ball

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Speaker 1: He has probably the best agent out there, and David

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Speaker 1: will leget it with athletes first. If he will listen

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Speaker 1: He's going to be fine because he has arm talent.

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Speaker 1: It's between the ears and decision making that he's going

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Speaker 1: to have to clean up. You know what's interesting about

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Speaker 1: what you just said. Not one time did you bring

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Speaker 1: up a race card. No. See, this is what I

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Speaker 1: don't like, is any time hold on, hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 1: Booker McFarland sound, and then any time I want you

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Speaker 1: to continue that thought. Here we go Booger McFarland his

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Speaker 1: take on the Dwayne Haskins situation. Unfortunately, I've seen this

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Speaker 1: too many times. Play in the NFL almost a decade.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what race you are. And we were

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Speaker 1: looking at it like a business. Its black white, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter what you are. We all look at it

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Speaker 1: in response, my my reaction to it was, I was

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Speaker 1: That's it's almost like, and listen, when once you get

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Speaker 1: into it. He got drafted to a dysfunctional organization. When

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Speaker 1: That's hateful. That that is that is very hateful. Gavin. Gavin,

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Speaker 1: development of the youth. Dude. That's what these kids get

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Speaker 1: so I'm gonna kiss your but I'm gonna kis your parents.

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Speaker 1: But oh, I want you to come to my college,

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Speaker 1: so I'm gonna recruit the heck out of you and

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Speaker 1: the most part, you are the best team. You compete,

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Speaker 1: what's wrong with j J? What are what are you

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Speaker 1: doing this phone like? They talked about them? Yeah, because

429
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: they don't like this. Just address the team or whomever

430
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Speaker 1: you're talking about individually. That's what you do when the

431
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: team is and and listen, I've had more than enough

432
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Speaker 1: seasons where as the face of of a franchise for

433
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Speaker 1: for a few years that I addressed our fan base.

434
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Speaker 1: But one thing that I would never do not gonna

435
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Speaker 1: point the finger, not not in trying to and in

436
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: an attempt to to make our fans feel better about

437
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: us being some trash as a football team. I will not.

438
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Speaker 1: I would not sacrifice my teammates by saying things that

439
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: could be considered and perceived the diminishing what they are

440
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: who they are, what they bring to the table. I'd

441
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: rather offer, you know, solutions. We got to work. We've

442
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: got to work to to figure this thing out. It's

443
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: it's different cult to be losing this way. There are

444
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: so many different ways you can address your fan base

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Speaker 1: without alienating it's s teammates or yourself. He was alienating

446
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: his teammates and saying it's not me, it's them. It's

447
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: kind of what it kind of sounded like. And that's

448
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: the biggest problem. And again, you're J. J. Watt. You

449
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: don't have to do that. You don't have to do that.

450
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: You just go to the individual or the team and

451
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: you can get your same point across simple Thanks for

452
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Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to

453
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern

454
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you

455
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or

456
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock app. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show. I'm LeVar Arrington. That's t J.

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Speaker 1: Hushman Zada, our next guest, a very esteemed one. He's

459
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: done something that most people will never do in their lives.

460
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Speaker 1: That's hoist. Well, maybe didn't hoist it because they're pretty

461
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: heavy from what I hear, but he put his hands

462
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Speaker 1: on it for certain. Because he's a quarterback, he went's

463
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: strong enough to hoist it on. He's my old teammate,

464
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Speaker 1: so I figure I take a little jet Anyways, our

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Speaker 1: next guest, the one and only Danny Warfol, the Heisman

466
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Speaker 1: Trophy winner from the University of Florida. Gator chomp, Gator bait.

467
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: That's the guy. What's going on, Broski? What's up? LeVar?

468
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: What's up? TJ? Man? You got my competitive juices flowing.

469
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: We're on doom. You'd see. I'm holding the trophy up

470
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: right now. Listen. Its hey, Danny, regardless, you got it,

471
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: you have it and that is important. Believe you me.

472
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: I respect that. How have you been, man? How is

473
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: life going? What's going on in Danny Warfol's world at

474
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: the time? It seems like some really big stuff you

475
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: got going on here? Talk to me a little bit

476
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: about uh as a Hall of Fame quarterback and how

477
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: you been trophy winner? Like you know, you're pretty decorated

478
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: and maybe the most decorated in the University of Florida's history.

479
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: What you got going on right now. Man. We've been

480
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: busy in a lot of different ways. You know, my

481
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: main job is the director of Desire Street Ministries. We

482
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: work in under resource neighborhoods all over the country, helping

483
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: people that live there put together programs to help their

484
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Speaker 1: neighborhoods and the communities. So that's my main job. And

485
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: then staying busy now with the Warfall Trophy honoring college

486
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Speaker 1: football players to do community service. And then uh, you know,

487
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Speaker 1: doing my best effort, although it's one of the hardest

488
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Speaker 1: things I've done. Be a good dad, be a good husband. Man,

489
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: that's some that's some some good good stuff. That's not

490
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: always easy. So I'm working hard on all fronts. And

491
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Speaker 1: so so you bring up the Warfare Trophy. Who's the

492
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Speaker 1: finalist and how did they get nominated? Yeah, So we

493
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: had about a hundred nominees from across the country Division

494
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Speaker 1: one football players and probably together, you know, I'm estimating

495
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: somewhere between fifty thousand and one hundred thousand hours of

496
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Speaker 1: community service. And we have a committee that sort of

497
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Speaker 1: sists it down to our semifinalists, and this year there

498
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: were nine just truly remarkable young men. And then we

499
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Speaker 1: have a selection committee that voted includes you know, a

500
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Speaker 1: lot of broadcasters and coaches and former winners of the

501
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Speaker 1: Worful Trophy. And our three finalists are just incredible young men.

502
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: Shy Words a quarterback for Georgia Southern, Sam Ellinger from

503
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Speaker 1: Texas and Teton Saltice from New Mexico. And the work

504
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: that they've done in their community, these things that they've

505
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: done during COVID is truly inspiring. And I wish we

506
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: had three trophies to present because they're they're all winners.

507
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: I think it's amazing the work that you do. I've

508
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: always respected you you You've always been a man of faith,

509
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: a man of your family, and a commitment to your teammates.

510
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: And I, you know, experienced that firsthand. You played and

511
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: we played in Washington together. Now it may be a

512
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: different place, it may not, you know, who knows, But

513
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Speaker 1: I would love just knowing what you represent, what your

514
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: award represents you being so developed in the community, and

515
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: just what that represents to people. What's what's your take

516
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Speaker 1: on what took place with Haskins and DC and you know,

517
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Speaker 1: just I'd love to hear your perspective on it. Oh Man, Well, Honestly,

518
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: one of my goals in life is not to pretend

519
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: to comment on something that I'm not totally in the nuance.

520
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm a little behind the news on that front. I

521
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: know that some things happen there, But honestly, if I

522
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: were to speak on that here, I wouldn't I wouldn't

523
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Speaker 1: be speaking from a knowledge base. Let me let me

524
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: rephrase it for you. Let me let me let me

525
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: put it in a different a different regard. If you're

526
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Speaker 1: if you're in a situation as the quarterback of a

527
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: National Football League team, and and maybe the things that

528
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: are being said about you are kind of disparaging and

529
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: a tat bit the commitment level isn't there, The professionalism

530
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: may not be there. It just seems to go down

531
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: the same lines of what you're saying in terms of

532
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: being a person of service, being in the community. Just

533
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: talk to me from the perspective of how being a

534
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: great person could play a major part in being a

535
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: great player. And maybe that's what was missing here with

536
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: the Dwayne Haskin situation. Sure well, just is seeking generally,

537
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, I think what makes a great teammate Obviously

538
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: you've got to be committed and excellent. But there's this

539
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: idea when you're on a team about being selfless. You know,

540
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: when you put yourself before the team. We've all seen

541
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: so many examples or where that usually doesn't end well.

542
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember being on a high school team

543
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: and we were by far the less talented team going

544
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,719
Speaker 1: into a nation state championship game. This team had probably

545
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: thirteen players go to college scholarships from one high school team,

546
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: and we smoked them. It was just a great example

547
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: of when you don't put yourself first, what's amazing. And

548
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: I think that's really what you know, going back to

549
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: the Warfall Trophy is what that about is people that

550
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: do that in the community and put people that do

551
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: that across the board, and it makes it makes for

552
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: better teams, it makes for better neighborhoods, better communities, in

553
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: a better world. Danny, I got a two part question

554
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: for you. You bring it up again, the Warfa Trophy.

555
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: Give me some notable winners of the past, and would

556
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: you being an Heisman Trophy winner. Obviously you can't tell

557
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: us who you voted for, but how do you see

558
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: that vote going. Yeah, well, the first question, we've had

559
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: some very high profile winners. You know, when you think

560
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: of guys like like Tim Tebow, and you know, it's

561
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: about his high profile, a guy you can get who

562
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: deservedly won the Wilful Trophy years ago. But we really

563
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: do our best to focus on the community service and

564
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: not let the notoriety of the players kind of dictate. So,

565
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: you know, we've had some winners from from from big

566
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: school you know, Oklahoma, Florida, you know, Alabama, you know,

567
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: but we've had two winners from Western Michigan. You know,

568
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: We've had different different players from from all over the country,

569
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: big and small schools, and so we we really try

570
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: to look at the resume of community service more than

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Speaker 1: the I'm gonna give you a name that you can

572
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: look forward to for this award in the future. His

573
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: name is Cameron McDonald at Florida State. He does a

574
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Speaker 1: lot for people out in Tallahassie in California. So that's

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Speaker 1: the name that could possibly accounted in the future. Just FYI,

576
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: you've got it. Well, we'll keep our keep our eyes open.

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00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: And to your other question, you know, I think that

578
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: there's four very deserving Heisman Trophy finalists. I think you

579
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: can make the case for all of them, you know,

580
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm I do my best to be unbiased, but I

581
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: think there's no real such thing as unbiased. But when

582
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: I see what Kyle Trast did is truly remarkable. You know.

583
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: I just saw through eleven games he has better stats

584
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: than Joe Burrow did last year through eleven games, and

585
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: that was just a slam dunk last year. So I'll

586
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: be happy for whoever wins. But I'm a big fan

587
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: of Kyle Trast, not just his staff on the field,

588
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: but his character. The way he's been loyal to University

589
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: even when he wasn't playing. Just so many things about

590
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: his story are inspiring to me. All Right, I gotta

591
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: ask this as my final question, based off of what

592
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: your reasoning just was. Have you ever put a vote

593
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: in for a defender? Let's be I think you may.

594
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: You may have been the first one that I did that. Yeah,

595
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: he did. He know this? Did you guys talk about that?

596
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: He's probably not telling the truth. But but that's a

597
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: that's a nice little lie right there. That's I like

598
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: that one. I like that. I definitely have. I definitely

599
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: have in the past. I can't remember for sure if

600
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: you were one of those or not. I'd have to

601
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: go back in the check the cupa auditing, but you

602
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: definitely were deserving. I'm sure I appreciate it. That is

603
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: Danny Warful of the Warful Trophy Award. The finalists have

604
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: been named and we'll be announced on ESPN's The Home

605
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: Depot College Football Awards on Thursday, January the seventh at

606
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: seven pm Eastern time. We're sure to appreciate you coming on,

607
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: good brother. You have always been a person that you know,

608
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: you can feel proud about, not only being a teammate,

609
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: but modeling the way you do things. After appreciated and

610
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: continued success to you. Man, Well, I appreciate it, and

611
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: congrats to both of you guys forging uh success beyond

612
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: the field as well. Keep up the good work you Okay,

613
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: you take care? All right. That's Danny Warfol and he

614
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: really was cool to be around, man. That's super dope dude. Man.

615
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: All right, So we got some more callers. Uh, let's

616
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: take some calls. Uh, Dwayne and Houston, come on in.

617
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: What you got a right? Turn your radio down? I

618
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: have a radio long? Oh okay, all right, well okay, yeah,

619
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: take us off your speaker phone. Something you did got

620
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: his echo in with you? Oh, j Okay, we're good.

621
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: Let's get a little better. Now, come on, let's go.

622
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: What you get brother, that's bad. I don't know, man,

623
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: I don't know. We might have to move on from

624
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: your player. Something's wrong. You have into tough technical difficulties. Bro.

625
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: Let's go to Dwayne and Houston. No excuse me, Dick.

626
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: Let's go to Dick and Northia. Dick in North Carolina. Hey, guys,

627
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: what's comment on Dwayne Haskins and new supports. I'm really

628
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: enjoying the show. Yeah, thank you, so so your last

629
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: guests commented on this as well. But I believe as

630
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: a former coach, we're seeing more of a me mentality

631
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: or culture versus a wee um culture. And these kids

632
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: are picking up their stuff and moving to another school

633
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: or moving to another team when they're not winning or

634
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: not getting playing time. And sports is more more than

635
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: just that. It's more than just when it's about understanding

636
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: how to get through adversity, understanding each other, communicating with teammates.

637
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: Things aren't going well, and those things are being lost

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Speaker 1: at the youth level and having to be retaught at

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Speaker 1: the college professional in high school levels. So I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to hear your thoughts on that. And I don't

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Speaker 1: mind J. J. Watt calling out during his press because

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Speaker 1: pure pressure, I think is one of the strongest things

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Speaker 1: to get somebody else to do with what you want

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Speaker 1: to do. And he's calling out his teammates for not

645
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Speaker 1: for not completing their task for their goal for the day.

646
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Speaker 1: They have one game left though, so it's like, you

647
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: have one game left. It would have been better had

648
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Speaker 1: you done this in the middle of the season and

649
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: you probably could have salvaged your season. But to do

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Speaker 1: it now to the media, I'm not so sure. Yeah,

651
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: that's a good point as well, but sometimes that momentum

652
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Speaker 1: at the end of the season leads into the next

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Speaker 1: season as well. So maybe that's why he didn't. He

654
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: just had to let it off his chest before the

655
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: season ended. He had to let it off his chest.

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00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 1: But doesn't that kind of go down the me mentality lane. Yeah,

657
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Speaker 1: but he's trying to do it's best for the community

658
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: and letting, you know, letting his teammates know. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: we don't know what's going on in JJ's head. And

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Speaker 1: and I understand your perspective as well, but I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys today and you guys are doing a great job.

662
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Appreciate for to call Dick. Appreciate you man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean listen, I'm not I'm not putting him down,

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Speaker 1: no what he's saying. So let's not miscons through what's

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Speaker 1: being being said. We're just giving you a perspective. It

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Speaker 1: is perspective though. If we're in that locker room and

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Speaker 1: he had done this and we're on that team, we're

668
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Speaker 1: looking at it like why that's that's you're doing unnecessary damage? Right, Like,

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Speaker 1: if we're being honest, I can feel bad that our

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Speaker 1: team has four and eleven, four and eleven. Now you

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Speaker 1: want to do this now and we're four and eleven,

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Speaker 1: it does It serves no purpose other than self preservation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're if we're being one hundred percent honest,

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Speaker 1: it only serves as you getting yourself out of the way.

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Speaker 1: So gay, you got a question, were you guys this

676
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Speaker 1: is kind of too part, but were you ever part

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Speaker 1: of player only meetings? And did they work? I have been,

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Speaker 1: and yes, oh player only meetings. Yet, when you're when

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Speaker 1: you expect to be a good team and things don't

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00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: go well, player only meeting when things are going well

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Speaker 1: and there are players that aren't doing what they're supposed

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Speaker 1: to do. Player only meeting, So it happens all the time.

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00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: It can be good or bad, and so yes, those

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Speaker 1: things happen. So the Steelers had a players only meeting

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Speaker 1: this week. Do you think that that's going to be

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Speaker 1: a catalyst for them to take that into this They're

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Speaker 1: going to rest Big Ben from every every report that's

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Speaker 1: coming out. You go into the situation where people are questioning,

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Speaker 1: continue into question can they do it in the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: Clearly they're aware of it. If the Steelers win. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if the Steelers are to lose to Cleveland, who would

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Speaker 1: they play in the first round? And let's say Buffalo win,

693
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Speaker 1: So that means Buffalo will get the second seed. The

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Speaker 1: Steelers will get Player only meetings work when they work.

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Speaker 1: That means if you win, oh, that player only meeting worked.

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Speaker 1: When you lose? Why do I mean? Why we waste

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00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: our time? Why you waste our time? And so it

698
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: has its purpose, but they can be a little overrated.

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Speaker 1: Dale Las Vegas. What you got, playboy? Yeah, well, I

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Speaker 1: just want to tell you why. I appreciate you too,

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Speaker 1: as men. Thank you, I appreciate thank you for appreciating us. Yeah. See,

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00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: that's that's the problem with with everything, is that you know,

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Speaker 1: we want to cat you know, we want to catalyze everything.

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00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: We want to put everything in a certain box. You know,

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Speaker 1: athletes are athletes. Well you know before they were athletes,

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00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: they were capable. Yeah, that's right. And the thing is

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Speaker 1: that it starts with the parents. Yes, it does. You know.

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Speaker 1: Um Charles Barkley when he was playing said, you know,

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Speaker 1: don't look as me as a role model. Look at

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Speaker 1: your parents, look at your families. Find somebody in your

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Speaker 1: families and look at them as a role model. See,

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00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: we start telling these kids from a very young age

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Speaker 1: when just people in general, you're good at this, you're

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Speaker 1: good at this. We don't round them out as human beings.

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Speaker 1: You're talking to somebody who did thirteen years in prison

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Speaker 1: for high level drug trafficking. You know who's on life parole. Now,

717
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: who's you know, paying for the consequences of my past? Wow?

718
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Speaker 1: And now now I have sixteen years clean and sober.

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Speaker 1: And it all starts between the years. Like you two

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Speaker 1: gentlemen say, right, man, you know, it's who you associate with.

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Speaker 1: If you know, if you associate with thugs, you become

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Speaker 1: a thug. You associate with criminals, you're a criminal. If

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Speaker 1: you associate with good people, you become because you adapt

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Speaker 1: those behaviors. And what happened, What happens to these athletes

725
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: is they never had First of all, they don't have

726
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Speaker 1: a handle money. We gotta stop putting it on African

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Speaker 1: Americans white. It's it's the younger generation in general. They

728
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Speaker 1: don't know how to handle money because all they've been

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Speaker 1: told is you're a good athlete, you're great. So they

730
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Speaker 1: end up getting by you know what I mean by

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Speaker 1: people let him. Oh he did this, but you know what,

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Speaker 1: we're not worried about that because he can do this. Yeah, Dwayne,

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Speaker 1: you know Dwayne Haskin for incident Ohio State. I lived

734
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Speaker 1: in Ohio. In Columbus, Ohio. Those athletes are treated like gods.

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Speaker 1: Women flocked to him. They go to farms, they get

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Speaker 1: free drinks, you know, and and now they have no

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Speaker 1: responsibility except learn the game plan played when after the game,

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Speaker 1: let's go party. M We appreciate it, man, it's a

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Speaker 1: good call. Dal We appreciate that, man. And listen, you know, TJ.

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Speaker 1: He said something very very intriguing to me, and I

741
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: want to ask you about this, he said, appreciation. There

742
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: wasn't an appreciation. I'm wondering, is that a major issue

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Speaker 1: that we're dealing with with millennials and with this, this

744
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Speaker 1: this new age athlete is the like for me, I

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Speaker 1: look at it if I had an appreciation for my job,

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Speaker 1: if I had an appreciation for my teammates, if I

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Speaker 1: had an appreciation for my accomplishments and the people the fans.

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Speaker 1: Do I do what Dwayne haskins it? Do I have?

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Speaker 1: Do I have an appreciation for my teammates? If I

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Speaker 1: do with what JJ Watt did? Is there just a

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00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: lack of in real true form? Is there a lack

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Speaker 1: of appreciation in today's today's athlete when you when you

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Speaker 1: talk specifically to talk specifically the NFL, that could possibly

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Speaker 1: be the case, and a lot of guys feel like, oh,

755
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it to the league, and they don't

756
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Speaker 1: realize the biggest thing is how lucky you are to

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Speaker 1: make it in plan the NFL. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: they look at it from that perspective. It's it's a

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00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: gift to being an NFL and we I took it

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Speaker 1: for granted. A lot of players take it for granted

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00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: the NFL, it doesn't matter who it is. Great. The

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00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: face of the league will retire. They'll find another face

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00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: of the league. The show goes on with or without you.

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00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: You either with us or you against us. You're either

765
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Speaker 1: gone follow along and do us you're supposed to do,

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Speaker 1: or we're gonna move on without you. The show goes on.

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Speaker 1: And so if you're gonna be in the show, which

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Speaker 1: is the NFL, you need to appreciate it. Why you there?

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Speaker 1: on you guys. I miss y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: The dan Nets are taking the same. They're getting some

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Speaker 1: R and R. We're gonna handle this last hour like

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Speaker 1: Right now, we're talking about the way things have kind

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Speaker 1: of do you think his mom and father, obviously lebron

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Speaker 1: protect their child. But when you talk about the pan

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Speaker 1: of Bonnie James versus a normal child, I guess a

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Speaker 1: it would never be able to happen, right because look

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Speaker 1: at look at what lebron has has done and where

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Speaker 1: he has been as far as a celebrity standpoint and

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Speaker 1: being a basketball player. You know, he's said the bar,

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Speaker 1: you know what, there is no bar. The bar's gone.

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Speaker 1: The bar has been uh obliterated. Right, So you look

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Speaker 1: at a situation like how do you prepare your son

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Speaker 1: school basketball on national television like every every every week.

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Speaker 1: How do you prepare him for playing basketball national television?

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Speaker 1: Those are things that we didn't have to deal with

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Speaker 1: you know how this this internet world is. How do

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Speaker 1: you think that those kids are going to play and

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Speaker 1: prepare to play against him? They're going to try to

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Speaker 1: do everything that they possibly can to destroy him and

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Speaker 1: to try to make them look bad with the memes

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Speaker 1: and all these different things. So you can't really prepare

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Speaker 1: And there's really nothing you can't discipline him or try

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Speaker 1: to prepare him like a normal kid because his life

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Speaker 1: is never going to be normal just because of what

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Speaker 1: father is. Right, Okay, but now let me ask y'all this.

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Speaker 1: Let me pose this question to both of you guys,

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Speaker 1: some would say that's the price that goes with the

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Speaker 1: with having a Lebron James as your father. Others would say,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you wouldn't you assume that you have to guide

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Speaker 1: to expose yourself in ways where you can unnecessarily be

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Speaker 1: targeted like he's a kid. Okay, but but again, is

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Speaker 1: he allowed to be a kid that's a normal kid?

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Speaker 1: How does that work. You. You want him to be

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Speaker 1: as normal as possible, and he's in a not normal situation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's Lebron James son. You're not gonna be normal.

847
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Speaker 1: That's just what it is, right, But you want him

848
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be on social media, He's gonna do

849
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: things he shouldn't because he's a child, and he will

850
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: learn from it. That's that's just an evolution of becoming

851
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: a young man, a child, a young man to a

852
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: full grown adult. You make some mistakes along the way,

853
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: and hopefully you have parents that can help you out

854
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: along the way. But he will never be a normal

855
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: child because his father is Lebron James. It's very simple, right, Hey, listen,

856
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: he can, he can make some mistakes, but the scrutiny

857
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: that he's going to receive from making those making those

858
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: respects of making those mistakes is not normal to a

859
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: regular sixteen year old. You may never hear about those

860
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: mistake that those kids make. But when he makes those

861
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: mistakes at sixteen, being a son of Lebron James and

862
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: every mistake, everybody's going to hear about it before they

863
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: can even try to prepare him for what is about

864
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: to come is it a mistake. That's a that's a question,

865
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: is is what James? Is that a mistake? What he

866
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: did not a mistake? You like a picture? He even

867
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: even if he liked the picture because of the way

868
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: she looked, that's not a mistake. He's a young man

869
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: and he might have saw something that he found attractive

870
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: and she can be older and he liked the pictures,

871
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: so what that's that's what it is. I hope he

872
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: likes the picture. Kudos a young man, right, kudos to him,

873
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: But liking a picture at sixteen, he's been a sixteen

874
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: year old child, but people are looking at him like,

875
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: you know what, his dad is Lebron James. So he's

876
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: not supposed to be conducting his his self as such.

877
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: But you have to let him be a child. But

878
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: he's not a child in the eyes of society. And

879
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 1: that's the unfortunate thing about this whole situation is that

880
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: he would never know what it feels like to be

881
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: a normal sixteen year old. It's a beautiful thing that

882
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: we are taking, uh, some amazing reps with with the

883
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: vacation time of Dan Patrick and the Dan Nettes. If

884
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: you like what you're hearing, you can actually tune in

885
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: on Saturdays. Uh we we come on from you know,

886
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: nine to noon or three three to five where you're

887
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: at on the East coast on it's called up on Game.

888
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: This is actually the cast of another show on Fox

889
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. So if you're enjoying this, uh, tune in,

890
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: tell a friend, go subscribe to the podcast. You know

891
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty cool. Um Okay, So after that shameless plug,

892
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: getting back to the business at and I agree. I

893
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 1: do not think that it was a mistake on Brownie's

894
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: part on his behalf. I also agree that children, young people,

895
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: young young adults, teenagers should have the ability to develop

896
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: and grow and learn. But I also understand how dangerous

897
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: this world is and and as famous as as one's parents,

898
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: maybe as famous as your siblings may be. Whatever, if

899
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: the situation, situation may call for, you have to be

900
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: able to adapt and to adjust to what the given

901
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: scenarios and conditions are that's around you and your family.

902
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: That's just for me. I'm more of a guy that

903
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:51,479
Speaker 1: I get concerned, like, I have concerns, and I want

904
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: to shield my kids, even if that means they don't

905
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: get some of the luxury, some of the luxuries that

906
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: Brownie receives and our children seeve being our kids are

907
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: different luxuries than what regular you know, civilian will say.

908
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: Civilian children are are able to have so different different.

909
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: It's different. It's definitely different. Bro, It is the correct word.

910
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: It is different because the things that your kids are

911
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: exposed to, Like, like, I give you a great example.

912
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: All right, my kids were doing we they were in

913
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: school and the teacher is talking about something that had

914
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: to do with Barack Obama and Barack this, and he's this,

915
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: and he's that, and everybody in the class is listening.

916
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: And my daughter says to him, he's not that's not true,

917
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,959
Speaker 1: that's not that's not really how, that's not really how

918
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: he presents himself. Uh huh. And the teacher says to her,

919
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 1: you need to be quiet and you need to listen

920
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: to what I'm saying because that is the lesson. Uh,

921
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: that's the lesson plan. And she said, well, that just

922
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: wasn't how it was when I spent time with him, really,

923
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: So how do you have a comeback for that? You?

924
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying, what I'm saying is some of

925
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: the things that our kids are exposed to the people

926
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: that are around them, the people that will make their

927
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: their decisions and their judgments or how they handle what

928
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: they feel about Brawny or any of our kids that

929
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: are exposed to different things. Our kids have to be

930
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: mindful for for the simple sake of safety, but their kids,

931
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: I understand that. But he's sixteen, sixteen, But all he

932
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: did was like a picture. And so when to me

933
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: that that's innocent? Is innocent? Can get there's no harm

934
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: in that. It's not like he's out there doing something

935
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: he shouldn't do. He's doing something that he should do,

936
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: and it's nothing wrong with it. I don't disagree with it.

937
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: I do not disagree with that. But what I'm I guess,

938
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to ask and try to understand is

939
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: is when you had that much of a spotlight on

940
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: you and and the scrutiny is going to be as

941
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: high as it's going to be, do you limit your

942
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: exposure in these situations based upon and teach your kids

943
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: to limit their exposure. I try, like, honestly, do you

944
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,479
Speaker 1: just let them go? I try to tell my kids,

945
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,479
Speaker 1: you're no different than anyone else, and so don't act

946
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: like that, don't be that way and that's the goal

947
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: is the hopefully your kids, regardless of what they have

948
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: or do not have, you treat everybody the right way.

949
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: You be understanding, and you be kind to people until

950
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,919
Speaker 1: they give you a reason not to. That's to me,

951
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: that's very simple and that's how you should live life. See,

952
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: I tell my kids they have to be aware. You

953
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: have to be aware because you know what bad people are.

954
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: Like the air you breathe. There's way more bad people

955
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: in this world than there are good people. And I

956
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: don't want that one time. I don't want I don't

957
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: want to have to my life to be totally altered

958
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: by a one time because my kids did not. They

959
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: were not aware that there are animals out here and

960
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: how that applies to them in their own lives. That

961
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: includes their social media interactions and everything. But Hey, as

962
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: sad as it may sound, like lebronze son and a

963
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: normal sixteen year old child, they're held to different standards.

964
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: They're held to different standards, yes, and it's one in sixteen,

965
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: other is sixteen, and it's looked down upon just because

966
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: of the fact of whose pops is, who his father is,

967
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: and it's really not fair to him. But he does

968
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: have to understand it. At the same time, he's saying that,

969
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sixteen, I'm gonna be like I'm gonna

970
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: be a young man and I want to live as

971
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: possible as a normal life as I possibly can, and

972
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: people aren't letting him. But can that be costly? Plex

973
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: It's what I'm saying. I guess we can't change that.

974
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: Our kids is different when we're talking Lebron James. He

975
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: can't change that. You don't choose your parents. But you

976
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: can limit it. It's all he's an athlete. It's almost

977
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: he's an athlete. You can limit it by not exposing

978
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: yourself that way. No, the only way it can be

979
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: limited if he's just tell it to him time and

980
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: time and time be given to these blowing his face.

981
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: You can't limit him from making his own decisions. You

982
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: can try to, you know, you know, tell him over

983
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: and over, but he's still going to make mistakes and

984
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: he's still gonna do those things. And really, the only

985
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: way to prepare you your child for Ronnie James and

986
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: situations like this is to go through it. You can

987
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: tell it to him a thousand times. Experience is the

988
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: best teacher, but he can only learn from a situation

989
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: where you tell him over and over and over again.

990
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: If he goes through it, like I can tell my

991
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: son something, you know, he's gonna make mistakes. Things, things

992
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: are going to happen because I've experienced them. But he's

993
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: still going to want to like you know, um my

994
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: dad told me this, but let me see if it's true.

995
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: It's that one It's that one time like I'll give

996
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: you a great example, I'll give you a great example.

997
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: It's that one time where you're saying, Okay, he's just

998
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: being a kid, he's just experimenting, he's just seeing what's

999
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: going on, and then he makes a move, he makes

1000
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: his decision, and say he goes to hang out out

1001
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: with one of these people that he's able to slide

1002
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: in to the DM and and go meet up with

1003
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: him right now. Where I come from, he's a target

1004
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: where you come from, he's a target y plex where

1005
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: you come from, he's a target. So in those in

1006
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: those moments of it's just allowing him to be a kid.

1007
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: In my mind, you know what, I'm thinking that girl,

1008
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna be hanging out with that girl. I don't know,

1009
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,959
Speaker 1: he's hanging my son is hanging out with that girl, right,

1010
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: But it happened because he's being a kid, and and

1011
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: it changes my life because you know what, he's a target,

1012
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: somebody that ran up in there. He's in a compromising position,

1013
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: somebody that took a video of him, somebody that took

1014
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: a photo of him. They didn't robbed him, and they

1015
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: holding him for ransom, whatever it may be. And to

1016
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:55,919
Speaker 1: some that might sound outlandish and outrageous. To others, I've

1017
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: seen it happen to much lesser people. I've seen it

1018
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: happened to much lesser people. I've seen it happen to

1019
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: adults where sure to get the dude back, they go

1020
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: to a spot. He's in the bed, they're chilling, he's

1021
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: in a compromising position because he's booty. But you know

1022
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: what I mean, Right, And then that door opens and

1023
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: two or three dudes walk in and talking about have

1024
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: a good night, have a good night. Hey, hey, Hey,

1025
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: let's hope that nothing like that curs. But but you

1026
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it's more likely to happen. It's

1027
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: more likely to happen, saying, Man, I don't want that

1028
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: one time in my life. I do not want that

1029
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,959
Speaker 1: one time with any of my kids in my life.

1030
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: Nobody wants it. But what the young man did is

1031
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with you know what, It's not gonna be

1032
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: the first time that it happened. I get it. This

1033
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: is not going to be the first time it happens.

1034
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: But is it more about getting him to understand what

1035
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: the level of exposure to him is. I guess that's

1036
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. But maybe he doesn't. Maybe

1037
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't fully comprehend how much exposure he's living with. Yes,

1038
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: do you think he doesn't know his father is a

1039
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: global idea? Yes, he does, but maybe he doesn't. Maybe

1040
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: he does not comprehend what that means. No, maybe he

1041
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: doesn't comprehend how that applies to him. Yeah, it's a possibility. Look,

1042
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: the guy gets on social media and gets millions of

1043
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: followers right away, he understands. Yeah, but that that to

1044
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: understand that you can get millions of followers, versus comprehending

1045
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: exactly what you represent and how that that is in

1046
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: correlation to your dad. It's it could be very it

1047
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: could be very different. That could be a very different mindset.

1048
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't understand, no, Lebron, but they him and his

1049
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: wife seem like down to earth people. And this isn't

1050
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: about it being an indictment on how they're parenting. But

1051
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: he I truly believe he gets it. Like he played

1052
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: he played basketball at Sierra Canyon. He didn't play much

1053
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: as a freshman. And somebody that felt that we're entitle ship.

1054
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: Oh I should be starting, I should be doing well.

1055
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: They did give him MVP of and so and so.

1056
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Speaker 1: Just that, just give it to put it in the bag.

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Speaker 1: Just put it in the bag, TJ. But hey, but

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Speaker 1: this gentleman understanding what his exposure is. He plays on

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Speaker 1: national television and high school basketball. To trust me, he

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Speaker 1: knows and he understands that normal sixteen kids, normal sixteen

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Speaker 1: year old kids don't get dispersed that because who that

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Speaker 1: father is, my dad is, My dad is a Barn James.

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Speaker 1: So they're gonna put me on tele of this. Hey, Plex, Plex,

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Speaker 1: be safe out there, and make sure while you're being safe,

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Speaker 1: you do it in the Mercedes all right. Hey, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what you're talking about. You're about

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Speaker 1: to you're about to understand it in one second. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you guys tune in the up on game to

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Speaker 1: hear the wise words of one stretched armstrong, otherwise known

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Speaker 1: as plexico bursts. You can hear that on Saturdays. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon

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