1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Hike and everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast. I have Questions for you edition 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: as my broadcast partner Dave Lapham joins me to answer 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: my questions and yours about the draft, about free Agency, 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: about Joe Burrow, about Carson Palmer, and about a whole 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: lot more. The bulk of the questions come from you 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: via Twitter with a new hashtag ask lap. We spent 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: about forty minutes together and as is always the case 9 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: with lap it's great stuff that's straight ahead. 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At 23 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: this point, all of our podcasts are obligated to begin 24 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: with a discussion of Joe Burrow. So here's my first 25 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: question for you this week. Give me a percentage what 26 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: is the likelihood that the Bengals are going to wind 27 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: up selecting Joe Burrow number one overall? I think it's 28 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: going to be in the nineties. I really do. I 29 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: think that I don't see a box that he doesn't check. 30 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: You know, the fact that is his dad coach. I mean, 31 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: he's he's football. He's a football lifer already at such 32 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: a young age, he's been around the game so long. Um. 33 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: You know. The other thing is when all his relationship 34 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: with his offensive lineman, he talks about a pregame meal, 35 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: always eating with the offensive lineman. First thing he did 36 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: at the Heisman presentation was thank his offensive lineman. He 37 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: just he just gets it. I think. Uh. And it's 38 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: you know when the big difference with him and Herbert 39 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: that I've I've heard is, and I asked people about it, 40 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: is when you say, okay, who are Herbert's friends on 41 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: the team, they list two or three guys and they 42 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: struggle to come up with that list. When you ask 43 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: how about Joe, There isn't anybody that doesn't like Joe. 44 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: Joe's friend to everybody. He just seems to have that 45 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: and that boomer to him a little bit, you know. 46 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got he's got the takes over the room. 47 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: He's the personality guy that everybody gravitates toward. And I 48 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: think that's a leadership quality. That is something that it's 49 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: a huge X factor for quarterback. And then you know 50 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: that that that huge and tangible I think is something 51 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: that separates him. Plus he's pretty damn good. I mean physically, 52 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when you're when you complete over 53 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, over seventy five percent of your passes, including 54 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: the National Championship game that brought it down from like 55 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: seventy eight to about seventy. Um, you're you're you're getting 56 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: it down at a very high level. So and you know, 57 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: when I watch a little tape of him, the thing 58 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: that impresses me about him is his um feeling that pressure. 59 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: You know that some guys have that innate ability to 60 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: sense it and feel it almost without you know, eyes 61 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: in the back of the head, kind of thing, and 62 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: they'll slidestep or step up at just the right time. 63 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: And with him, you'll see guys sometimes start to look 64 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: and peripherby try to catch He never does. I'm watching 65 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: him and he's just it's almost like almost like he 66 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: has a sense of touch. That's when they're close to him, 67 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: he can almost sense him being you know, a foot 68 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: away from him or something, because all he has his 69 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: eyes down field all the time. I mean, they are 70 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: trained down the football field, and that that's a that's 71 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: a good quality because you know, if you can't take 72 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: your eyes off the off the target down the football field, 73 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: he never does, never does. I mean, that was another 74 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: trait that I'm like, wow, that's that's pretty impressive because 75 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: he was feeling a pretty extemif an eat a lot 76 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: of times and never diverted his eyes. And I'm like, man, 77 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: that's as a lineman, you gotta love that. And there's 78 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 1: no question, you know. And then he just he throws 79 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: the ball accurately to such tight spots. I mean he 80 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: throws he's straight a quarterback anticipation and accuracy. You know, 81 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: he throws it before they're you know, come out of 82 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: their break and puts it to a spot where that's 83 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: the best spot to throw it from them to catch it. 84 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: He has so many, so many boxes check like I said, 85 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: and you know you can. You can drive yourself nuts 86 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: trying to find the negative thing about him. Why do that? 87 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: You know? Just accept it. I mean, he's he's frint, 88 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: he's a very rare had a very rare season. Accept it. 89 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: Make a decision that he's the guy. Don't worry, be happy, 90 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: make the pick, move on, move on. As I told 91 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: somebody the other day, I'm just happy that Andy Reid 92 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: got a Super Bowl ring before Burrow begins his run 93 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: of six in a row. It was nice that he 94 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: was able to get one before the Burrow era begins, 95 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: you know. And that's that's the interesting thing because as 96 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: soon as you know, Mahomes wins the Super Bowl with 97 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: Andy Reid, and now they're talking about the forty million 98 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: dollars contract and what's not going to do the roster 99 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: because they built a nice roster around him with that 100 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: rookie contract. And that's what you know, you can get 101 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: done potentially with Joe. You could have him a fixed 102 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: price of thirty five thirty six million dollars over a 103 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: five year time frame potentially, and Mahomes is going to 104 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: be making more than that on an annual basis, saying 105 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: forty forty four million dollars a year. It's crazy. So 106 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: you know, we've seen it with Flacco wins it and 107 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: they have to just sumble the team when he gets 108 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: his one hundred million dollars plus payday, And I wonder 109 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: what's going to happen with Mahomes. We've seen cases of it, 110 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: and we've seen cases of you know, get the young 111 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: quarterback that you can build around, put a good roster 112 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: around him, and make your run. Maybe the Bengals kipt 113 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: out done with Joe Burrow. So Joe Burrow got along 114 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: with everybody, as you mentioned at LSU and before that 115 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: at Ohio State, but one of his closest friends with 116 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard. They were hanging out together in Miami for 117 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and during the course of that, Joe 118 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: Burrow went on the Dan Patrick Show and was asked 119 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: about being potentially the number one pick in the draft, 120 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: and he said, yes, I'd like to be the number 121 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: one pick, and I want to go to a team 122 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: that is committed to winning the Super Bowl. And naturally 123 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: that set off the alarm bells because it sounds so 124 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: much like the criticism that Carson Palmer repeats to anybody 125 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: that will listen. Should we be concerned about those comments 126 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: by Joe Burrow? No, I don't think so. I mean, 127 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: I think I think those are those are comments that 128 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: a competitor makes. And Joe Borrow the one thing I 129 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: talked to a couple of his offensive lamar at the 130 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl from lsu Castle Berry and Lewis, and you 131 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: know they both said, in his polite a way or 132 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: as nice away as you can be, he'll cut your throat. Man, 133 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: He's a cutthroat competitor. That's Joe Burrow. He'll do whatever 134 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: it takes. I'm like, man, I love that. I love 135 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: the sounds of that. So I think, you know, his 136 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: competitive spirit is I had this great year, won the Heisman, 137 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: we won the National Championship. I want to be the 138 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: first pick in the draft. I want to win a 139 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: super Bowl. So I mean those are just comments that 140 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, I want to I want to go where 141 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: I have a chance to win a super Bowl. I 142 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: don't think I don't think he's necessarily taken a shot 143 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: at the Bengals He just wanted it to be known 144 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: that wherever I'm going, let's get ready because I want 145 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: to win the whole thing, and I hope you do 146 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: too as much as I do, because I do. I 147 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: want to win it. Man, I'm a winner and I 148 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: want to keep winning state the obvious. Really, can I 149 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: go off on a little bit of a Carson Palmer 150 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: rant here, because I know you like respect Carson Palmer. 151 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: But I'm disappointed, Dan, I'm disappointed. I am you know. 152 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: The thing, the thing that disappoints me is and this is, 153 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: this is the problem that Wit and some of the 154 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: guys had with Carson Palmer. Is you know, all right, 155 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: it didn't some things may have not gone perfectly the 156 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: way you wanted it when you were here. But Mike 157 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: Brown made you the highest paid quarterback in the National 158 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: Football League. Why was he doing that because he thought 159 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: you were the guy that we're going to win him 160 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and win you a Super Bowl? What? What? 161 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: What problem do you have with that? I just don't 162 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: get it. And I mean I just you know, I 163 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: wish it. I wish at this point he would back 164 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: off just uh, you know, keep showing with the with 165 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: the deep sea blows, you know, I mean, just just 166 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: he's let it go a little bit. So Carson Palmer 167 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: played for seven years after he left Cincinnati between Oakland 168 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: and Arizona. In those seven years, his team's won sixty 169 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: one games. I believe in those same seven years the 170 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: Bengals won sixty five. With Andy Dalton AJ Green, Carson 171 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: Palmer's teams went to two playoffs, the Bengals went to five. 172 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: Immediately after he left, they went to five straight playoffs. Furthermore, 173 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, which apparently, according to Carson, are the 174 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: organization that is, you know, committed to doing whatever it 175 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: takes to win the Super Bowl. I mean, I guess 176 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: that's what he thinks. They had the number one pick 177 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: in the draft last year, just as the Bengals have 178 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: the number one pick in the draft this year. So 179 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: I get frustrated by any national media member or even 180 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: Bengals fans. I guess that take what he says as 181 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: gospel when there's really no reason too. Yeah, no, I agree. 182 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the numbers are the numbers, and um, you know, unfortunately, 183 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: I do think the team that he led to a 184 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: great season and then he got his knee torn up 185 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: but in the Pittsburgh Steeler game in the pluff, I 186 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: do think that team could have made a run. Well, hell, 187 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't Mike Brown had caused your problem? Was Chemo 188 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: von All often? You know it was Steinbach not blocking 189 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: Chemo von All often. Well enough, if you have to 190 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: pick a beef on somebody, But I mean, you know 191 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: that injury was tragic, There's no question. I mean, I 192 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: think that team was a hell of a football team. 193 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: And what's your beef then? I mean, you know, if 194 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: you if if you get through that football game healthy 195 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: and beat the Pittsburgh Steelers, which I think what could 196 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: have should have happened? Who won the Super Bowl? That 197 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: you're Pittsburgh Steelers. Come on, man, one more thing. In 198 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, he leads the team to the 199 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: AFC North title and they sweep the division, beat Pittsburgh twice, 200 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: beat Baltimore twice, beat Cleveland twice. The next off season, 201 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: they signed Tarall Owens, largely because Carson wanted him. Sure, 202 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: and that creates the circus that leads to a four 203 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: and twelve season and then he quits. I'm telling you, 204 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: it's a it is a I'd say it's a very 205 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: one side did memory He's got Carson has selective amnesia 206 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: on all sides of it. There are there are multiple 207 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: sides to every story, no question about him. You can 208 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: you can pick and choose whichever one's fit your memory 209 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: the best, and he's picking and choosing whichever one's fit 210 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: his memory the best. He did throw a pretty ball, though, 211 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: best I've seen. I mean the ball came out of 212 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: his hand. I'm not kidding. When I saw him throw, 213 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh. And Mike Brown, you know, 214 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: obviously was infatuated. He's always Mike Brown played quarterback at Dark. 215 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: He's always loved quarterbacks can throw it, and nobody could 216 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: spin the pig like Carson. Palmer was unbelievably beautiful. Let's 217 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: talk about this year's Super Bowl teams, Kansas City and 218 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: San Francisco. What can the Bengals learn from those two 219 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: rosters as they try to rebuild and reach that height. Well, 220 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: in Kansas City's case, they got the quarterback that can, 221 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, make miraculous plays. Um, you know, could Joe 222 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: Burrow be Patrick Mahomes. Now, Joe Burrow doesn't have the 223 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: arm talent to Patrick Mahomes hasn't there's very few guys 224 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: you know that that do have that kind of arm 225 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: talent is Joe Burrow, Jimmy Garoppolo? Hell yeah, I think 226 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: he's cut above Jimmy Garoppolo. Well, what led to San 227 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers to the Super Bowl? Offensive and 228 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: defensive line, particularly defensive line five former number one draft picks, 229 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: and that group for three and a half quarters had 230 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes on the run and had him playing Mahomes 231 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: like but man for an eight minute period. How do 232 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: you score twenty one points in eight minutes? Here kidding me? 233 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: He scored twenty eight points in the second quarter against 234 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: the Titans, never been done in the Plazz before, and 235 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: followed up with twenty one points and a half a 236 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: quarter basically in the Super Bowls. He's really he's really 237 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: a remarkable talent. Mahomes is. But the San Francisco forty 238 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: nine is almost won the Super Bowl because of their defense, 239 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: their ability to run the football and you know, not 240 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: put too much on the quarterback. Kansas City won the 241 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl because they have a freakazoid at the quarterback position, 242 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: and you know they pick up honey Badger and free agency. 243 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: I mean they made some moves, they got some pieces. 244 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: You know, they improved their defense in free agency the 245 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: drafts as well. They signed Steve Spagnolo to coach it. Um. 246 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: You know, he did a great job. So it can 247 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: it can be done. If the forty nine ers went 248 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: from four and twelve to the Super Bowl, it's happened. 249 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,599 Speaker 1: Coach the Senior Bowl then coached the Super Bowl same year. Absolutely, 250 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: And you know that's why this this Senior Bowl thing, 251 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, Mike Mayock is when he got me all 252 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: juiced up down there because you know, he said, man, 253 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. We just down here last year and 254 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: six players four week coached, two week coached. Hegens every 255 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: one of them. We had him called every one of them. 256 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: They all made our team. They all made contributions. That's 257 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: the motherload. You know. They hit the mother there's no 258 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: doubt about it. But we'll see if the Bengals experience 259 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: down there at the Senior Bowl can help them, you know, 260 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: put some pieces together. As great as Mahomes was in 261 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs and in the final six and a half 262 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: minutes to the Super Bowl this year, to me, what's 263 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: even more impressive still is last year's AFC Championship game, 264 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: thirty one points in the second half against the Bill 265 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: Belichick defense. He just never got the ball in overtime. Unbelievable. 266 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: And I think everybody thinks that if they have won 267 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: the toss, he probably would have taken them for a 268 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: touchdown and have made the Super Bowl. And you know, 269 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: if d Ford lines up on side, they're in the 270 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl two years in a row. And ironically d 271 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: Ford playing against them with the San Francisco forty nine ers. 272 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: It was a little twist of twist of faith there. 273 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, the Kansas City Chiefs have a 274 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: generational talent as the quarterback position. You're not a Twitter guy, 275 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: but I have started a new hashtag on Twitter, ask lap. 276 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: I have invited people to ask questions when we get 277 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: together there for podcasts. So I've got a bunch of 278 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: them today. Are you ready ready to roll? All right? 279 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: This comes from t Justin What Bengals free agent is 280 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: essential to resign? Boy? I mean, you know, I think 281 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: I think the whole thing hinges on AJ Green. I 282 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: think I think he is the king Domino. If they 283 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: can get something done with Aj Green, I think everything 284 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: else falls into place. If they can't Um, you know 285 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: then then then now you're talking about do we tag 286 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: them other we cause the ill will of their problems there. 287 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: I think I think a J. Green is the is 288 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: the centerpiece, and um, if that could happen. I mean, 289 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: I think Joe Mixon is an astanding player. You got 290 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: to sign Joe, but he's not a free agent, but 291 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: extend him. I wouldn't let him get to that last 292 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: year of his contract. But I think the uh, the 293 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: biggest component right now is the AJ Green factor. If 294 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: you have to tag him, tag him and trade him, 295 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: or play it out and hope that you can get 296 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: a good deal done down the road. Yeah, I think 297 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: I think that. I'm not sure I tag him and 298 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: trade him. I tag him and see what I I 299 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: think that he is gonna come back and play like 300 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: AJ Green can play. And I mean, if you've if 301 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: you've got a guy that and I know he's starting 302 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: to get a little bit long on the tooth, but 303 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: he's a freak athlete. Now honestly, I mean you look 304 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: at his body other than okay, he's had some injuries 305 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: down the stretch here in this this ankle injury, it 306 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: is a joint, you know, but he has not had 307 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: any knee reconstructions or anything like that, so he's still 308 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: pretty intact, and he's an elite athlete. He's a world 309 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: class athlete. When you have a guy like that, there's 310 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: a proven commodity and you trade him for a fifty 311 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: fifty proposition as a draft pick, um not every wide 312 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: receiver there was drafted in the first round was panned 313 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: out seem more bu than guys that can play. This 314 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: guy not only has proven he can play, he's proven 315 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: he can play at the highest level in the National 316 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: Football League. I mean, he's one of your greatest players 317 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: of all time. Until I know that he's not that 318 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: guy anymore, I don't throw him away. I just don't 319 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: do it. I don't know. I'd make sure that I 320 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: would have exhausted every potential because man, I just know 321 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: every player you talked to in that locker room, even 322 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: the last year's you know, catastrophe and debacle, they all 323 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: still love what he does. The leader is in a 324 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: quiet way, you know, just by his actions. His actions 325 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: speak so much louder than his words. And every teammate, 326 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: every coach, everybody in the organization doesn't just like aj Green. 327 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: They loved aj Green, So, I mean it could it 328 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: could have gotten ugly and nasty, didn't even come close. 329 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: That tells me something about him too. I don't give 330 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: up by the aj Green that fast. Next question comes 331 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: from John. I like this one. If Miami offered all 332 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: three of its first round picks this year, plus a 333 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: third rounder this year and a number one next year, 334 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: would you trade the number one overall pick? Well, I would. 335 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: I would think that Miami is targeting Joe Burrow, and 336 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: at that point, I would say, what am I missing? 337 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 1: If they want to give me all of that for 338 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, that should solidify my feelings about Joe Burrow. 339 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: So I'd be careful, you know, I'd certainly be tempted, 340 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: but I'd be careful. And Okay, So that fifth pick 341 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: who's there, Well, Herbert who I saw in like, but 342 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: I think, you know, some of the mock drafts that 343 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: are coming out now that I'm seeing have him as 344 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: a mid first round pick. And that's what I heard 345 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people talking about down there. And you know, 346 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: Todd McShay is down there all week getting information, and 347 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: so he's probably hearing talking to a lot of the 348 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: same people I was talking to and a lot of 349 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: people had Herbert as a as a mid first rounder, 350 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: and it looks like at me Indianapolis is the latest 351 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: destination for him, which makes a lot of sense. So, okay, 352 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: do you take Herbert at five? If you take two, 353 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: you get crucified if you take another injured guy with 354 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: your first round pick. After the run you'd been on 355 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: with guys selecting guys and you know, hurt before they 356 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: were drafted, but not hurt that badly with the pack 357 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: with Billy Price and then Jonah and not you know, 358 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: you picked Jonah. He's played billion Jonah. Both have this 359 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: remarkable stretch of availability, accountability, durability, every ability and man, 360 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: they can't get through their rookie years, you know. And 361 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: John Ross and I mean the list of the Littney 362 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: goes on and on. And if you draft twa and 363 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: it's like you may have to red shirt him for 364 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: a year, I guess at that point you're made a decision. 365 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: You're keeping Andy Dalton for the last year of his contract. 366 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: If you make that trade and you're gonna take two 367 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: at number five, you've made a decision there, and you 368 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: cross your fingers the two is going to be and 369 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: Let's face it, when he was healthy was a star, 370 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: There's no question about it. And the guy, the guy 371 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: is accurate. I mean, he's the left handed Drew Brees 372 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: in my opinion, with his accuracy pinpoint accuracy. So you 373 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: know that's it might be tempting, but oh my gosh, 374 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: if if Miami's willing to give to all that up 375 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: to get Joe Burrow, you may have to say to yourself, 376 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: why are you letting this dude go? If they think 377 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: that highly of them, throwing another first round of the 378 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: next year, and maybe we'll all right. Next question comes 379 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: from Tyler, what player or players will be cut or 380 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 1: traded before free agency? Well, you got to think that. 381 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna try to move Andy Dalton, and 382 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: if they if they move Andy Dalton, if they're making 383 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: a concerted effort to move Andy Dalton, they're drafting Joe 384 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: Burrow because I think that they expect Joe Burrow to 385 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: be able to play right away. And I can understand why. Um, 386 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: in this era of young quarterbacks. Look at the young 387 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: quarters quarterbacks that were drafted last year, they play I 388 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: mean they draft him when they play him. You know, 389 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: here in the recent past, obviously. Now you'll have cases 390 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: of Mahmes. For example, you know Smith played for a 391 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: year for the Homes, Carson Palmer, you know, sad for 392 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: John Kittner. I mean, we do have some history of 393 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: those kind of things taken place. But I think I 394 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: think if they make the determination to take Joe Burrow, 395 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: who had the best year of any college quarterback in 396 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: the history or college football, they're anticipating he is going 397 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: to play. He's the guy. And I think out of 398 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: respect to Andy Dalton, who they value as a person 399 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: and what he's done for the organization, they don't want 400 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: him to have to sit the pine, you know, ride it, 401 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: ride it out. I think they Andy wants to start. 402 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: He's verbalized that they understand that, and I think they 403 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: will try to make a deal, you know, and trade 404 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. Now the question is what will the market bear. 405 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: They may want whatever they would want for Andy Dalton, 406 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: but if nobody's going to offer to him, will they 407 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: pull the trader and make the trade. That's going to 408 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: the interesting point. Sometimes the Bengals value on a player 409 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: in the league's value in a player don't coincide. I've 410 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: been thinking fourth round pick, fifth round pick, based on 411 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: the Joe Flacco and Ryan Tannehill deals the last year 412 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: or two. But Mike Lombardi, the former NFL GM brought 413 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: up the Alex Smith trade and said he thinks that 414 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton could get the same thing that the Chiefs 415 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: got are close to it from the Redskins when they 416 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 1: traded Alex Smith, and that was a good player, Kendall 417 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: Fuller and a third round draft pick. I mean, if 418 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: the Bengals could get that an established player and a 419 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: third rounder, probably even just the third rounder alone, they 420 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: would be thrilled. I would think, oh, hell yeah, I'd 421 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: do that deal in a heartbeat, you know, starting caliber 422 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: corner in a third round pick, definitely, you know. I 423 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: mean Andy came in the league as a as a 424 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: second rounder. Alex Smith came in the league as the 425 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 1: first pick in the draft. So you know where they 426 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: came into the league is a little bit, you know, 427 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: different from the store point on what perceived value might 428 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: be because Alex Smith has had success. Andy Daltons had success, 429 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: But you know where they came into the league is 430 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: a little different. Starting point. Man, if they could get 431 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: if you'd give a third round pick for Andy Dalton, 432 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: I'd take that deal before the ink dride. I mean 433 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: I would I'd signed it in any kind of ink 434 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: I could sign it and maybe blood. The next question 435 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: comes from Christian Well, well, we kind of covered this, 436 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: but the question slightly different. Will the Bengals keep Dalton 437 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: as a bridge quarterback? Given the chief success with Alex 438 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: Smith mentoring Patrick Mahomes for one year before that trade 439 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: of the Redskins and the Bengals history with John Kenton 440 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: and Carson Palmer. You know, I think one of the 441 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: big differences with Patrick mcgahomes and and Joe Burrow. Mahomes 442 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: ran a quote gimmick offense at Texas Tech. You know, 443 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: the spread stuff, Mike Leach's stuff. You know, the Cliff 444 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: Kings played quarterback from Mike Leach and that that whole 445 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: evolution at Texas Tech. Everybody after Mike Leads still you know, 446 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: went with that almost you know, the running shoot spread type. Look, 447 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, courtesy of Joe Brady, who they got from 448 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints, ran the Saints offense. So I 449 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: think Joe Burrow has shown that he can run a 450 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: very successful style of offense in the passing attack, in 451 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: particular that the New Orleans Saints have employed with Drew Brees. 452 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:37,239 Speaker 1: Drew Brees very quick study, Joe Burrow very quick study. 453 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that that's another thing that when 454 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals look at Joe Burrow man he processes so quickly, 455 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: and Andy's been great with that. That's Andy's I think 456 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: it's that's Andy's biggest attribute. Might be Joe Burrow's biggest attribute. 457 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: The way they can process information. And the fact that 458 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: he was able to digest the New Orleans Saints passing 459 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: attack and implement it as well as he did, I 460 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: think bodes well for his transition to be a little 461 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: bit faster, you know than Patrick Mahomess might have been 462 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: other key thing to remember too. When the Chiefs drafted 463 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, they were a playoff team already. Alex Smith 464 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: was doing an excellent job. He led them to the 465 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: playoffs in Patrick mahomes rookie year. So unlike the situation 466 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow or somebody else would be entering, they 467 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: were not ready to turn things over right away because 468 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: they had a good team and a quarterback that was 469 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: playing well well. I can remember, you know, um, I 470 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 1: can remember when the Chiefs did draft Patrick Mahomes. A 471 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: lot of people's initial reaction was what why you got 472 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: your guy? What are you doing? And a lot of 473 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: people were like, you know, and when they traded Alex Smith, 474 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: why are you doing that? Wow? I mean, is this 475 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: guy really that good? I will say, you know, some 476 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: people had had a pretty good handle on what I 477 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: think it was. Leech is the guy's name with Kansa 478 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: City Chiefs that saw every snap Patrick Mahomes had beach 479 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: with the GM down there taking a look at every 480 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: snap he had at Texas attack, you know, and said, 481 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: this guy's the greatest thing since sliced bread. And Andy 482 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: Reid looked at him and when he saw him in 483 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: first and he sees like second coming of Bread far 484 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: with the arm talent and the same type of gunsling, 485 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: of mentality and everything. So they were sold. But a 486 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: lot of people were like, what are you doing? But 487 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: they certainly knew what they were doing, no doubt about it. 488 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: And like you said, how they manipulated that whole thing 489 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: about as well as they could have. I mean, they 490 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: get Alex Smith in free agency, he leads them to playoffs, 491 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: They get their young guy that's going to take his place. 492 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: They get good value in the trade for Alex Smith 493 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: and then he has the tragic injury after he leaves. 494 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: But you know, the Kansas City Chiefs, the way they 495 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: manipulated that whole dynamic man at the most important position 496 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: in all of professional sports. That's why they won the 497 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Question from Greg if you had to compare 498 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow to a current or former NFL quarterback, who 499 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: would it be? Boy? You know, I bet, I bet 500 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: Joe Brady would say that he sees a lot of 501 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: Drew Brees and Joe Burrow. Um, and not necessarily. I 502 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: mean they're much different. Joe Burrow sixthree Drew Brees is 503 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: six feet you know, if if six feet or whatever 504 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: he is, But you look at Joe Burrow has kind 505 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: of underrated quick twitch. So does Drew Brees with with 506 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: respect to throwing the football and doing some things. Now 507 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: he's a lot older now Drew Brees is. But um, 508 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: I think processing information, you know, being able to spit 509 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: it back out, all the all the things, the mental 510 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: capacity for the game, um is. I think there's a 511 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: lot of similarities there. So I would take a six 512 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,719 Speaker 1: foot three inch Drew Brees. They both throw with I 513 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: mean Breeze has got a good arm, but it's not 514 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: like Oh Howitzer, but boy does he throw with anticipation 515 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: and accuracy. That's what Joe Burrow does. And uh, I 516 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: would take that. I would take that kind of career 517 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: that Drew Brees said, there's no doubt from Bengals. Nut. 518 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: What realistic free agent do you see the Bengals pursuing. 519 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: That's a that's a great question. I know who I'd 520 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: like to see him pursue. Joe Schobert Wisconsin. Lean Brown's 521 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: linebacker and we've seen him um and he's he's He's 522 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: a tremendous football player. I'd like to see. I'd like 523 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: to see two Wisconsin Badgers. Dan at least like to 524 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: see Joe Scholbert in free agency. And I'd like to 525 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: see Zach Bond, a linebacker otto Wisconsin, sixty three tourn 526 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: and thirty five pounder who was a high school quarterback 527 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: who understands, you know, every nuance of the game. Obviously 528 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: reminds me of a guy named Ed O'Neill when I 529 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: played at Syracuse. This guy O'Neill played at Penn State 530 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: high school quarterback. You know, big six foot four, in 531 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: strapping lad Well Paternal says, we're you know, we've got quarterbacks. 532 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: You're a great athlete. We want to play at linebacker. 533 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: Ed O'Neil's like linebacker. They played him an inside linebacker 534 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: in their four or four defense. And I'll tell you 535 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: what now he was. He was something else. He was 536 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: a good first round draft pick the Detroit Lions. So 537 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: when I saw that this Zach Baum had played, uh, 538 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: Bond had played a high school quarterback, I'm thinking, man, 539 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: is this another Ed O'Neill And it's he's he's he's 540 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: similar dimensionally sixty three, two thirty five. It will get bigger. 541 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: Ed O'Neill was, you know, in that range two thirty 542 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: five to forty ish, but then he came into league 543 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: and he got as big as two forty five to 544 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: two fifty. I mean, I could I could see, I 545 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: could see some comparison there. But UH drafted Wisconsin Badger, 546 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: sign a Wisconsin Badger and free agency and Uh, and 547 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: I think, I think you know, you've got positioned versatility 548 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: in both cases. I think they're both good enough athletes. Bond, 549 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: I think you know, I would play him an inside backer, 550 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: but I think you could play outside as well, he 551 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: could certainly play in your sub packages. Schobert does that 552 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns on Wisconsin Win. By the way, 553 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: the top two free agent linebackers last year c J. 554 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: Mosley and Kwan Alexander. Mosley played in two games for 555 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: the Jets. Kwon Alexander was part of a Super Bowl 556 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: team in San Francisco, but he played in eight games 557 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: after only playing six the year before. So I know, 558 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like everybody else. I would love to 559 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: see the Bengals sign an impact linebacker if they can. 560 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: But it's always buy or beware. It is, there's no 561 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: doubt about it. Scholbert has got a good experience level, 562 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: but it's not like he's still got rubber on the tire. 563 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. I think he's into his prime, 564 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: but he's not past his prime, which I think is 565 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: to be a but he's going to command some bucks. 566 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: He's a hell of a player, all right. Let's get 567 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: back to ask lap questions via Twitter from James. How 568 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: does Jonah Williams compare to this year's offensive tackle class 569 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: in the draft. I think very favorably. You know, down 570 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, Um, they were all over this 571 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: Josh Jones out of Houston. You've seen him dan six 572 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: foot seven three and ten pounder, very athletic guy. He's 573 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: he's um, but he's only got thirty two eighth inch arms. 574 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. And I you know, I looked 575 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: at his arms, look a little short, but they were 576 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying t Rex, but but the 577 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: thing I want watching him play, he had um, quiet, 578 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: patient feet. They were really good and very active hands. Boy. 579 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: Now he made up for his lack of length of 580 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: his arms by how quick he was with his hands. 581 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: And I think I think he was probably the one 582 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: that most people were drooling over down at the Senior Bowl. 583 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: I like our guy. I think he compared. Now, he's 584 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: not six seven and he's not you know he Jonah 585 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 1: will struggle to be three hundred pounds. He's not over 586 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: three hundred pounds every day of the year. But he's 587 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: Is he big enough? I think he is. He has 588 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: really good feet. He has big feet, size seventeen. He 589 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: has he has a good foundation, a good base. But 590 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: he can move those puppies. You know, he's not He's 591 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: not a platting, dead footed guy. He's got good feet 592 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: and he's a great technician. And uh, I'll tell you, Dan, 593 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm sold on. You know, he had his spreadsheets that 594 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: he came up with to, you know, to scout opponents 595 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: while in college and watching him off the field everything 596 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: he did preparing like he was going to play in 597 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: the game, um, all of his I mean the Bengals 598 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: offensive line coaches were saying, give us that information, give 599 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: us your spreadsheet, what are you doing. I've never seen this, 600 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: how are you doing that? And then during the game 601 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: he would position himself where he could look right through 602 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: the formation and see the left tackle whoever was playing 603 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: left on the defensive end, and then in his mind 604 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: he would, you know, say this is how I'm going 605 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: to set in a technique I'm going to use and 606 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: then see how it all unfolded. This kid's the real deal. 607 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: This kid is all football haul the time. And I 608 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: was impressed with the impact he made. Instead of, you know, 609 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: kind of feeling sorry for himself and moping around him pouting, 610 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: he gave a lot. I mean, he was he was 611 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: making the tackles that were playing in the football game 612 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: were listening to Jonah Williams what he had to say 613 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: during the week and implementing a lot of it. I mean, 614 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: the kid, the kid's a sharp cat. There's no question 615 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: about it. If college students had laptops in nineteen seventy four, 616 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: you would have done that. I'm serious. You would have 617 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: had a spreadsheet and evaluated that the people that you 618 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: were trying to block. I would have tried to come 619 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: up with some way to umut put it all together 620 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: in a in an easy form. Maybe So I did. 621 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: I did enjoy you know, tracking and charting, you know, 622 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: percentage of times and he's going to swim if he 623 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, if he if his feet were parallel and 624 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: he's going to go inside more than outside of the 625 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: feet of staggered or all that sort of. I would 626 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: have started tracking some of that stime, right, I knew 627 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: it all right. Question from Brian. We keep hearing about 628 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: the new culture that Zach Taylor is trying to create. 629 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: Was the culture bad under Marvin Lewis and didn't have 630 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: to change? I don't think it was bad. I think 631 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: I think Marvin changed the culture to the good way 632 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: to the good. You know, he came here at two 633 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: and fourteen mess and right away there eight and eight 634 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: in the playoff contender, and he changed the culture overnight 635 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: and he and he kept working on keeping that culture 636 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: was always a big thing, big thing to him. But 637 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: just like anything, sixteen years of it, I think it 638 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: started to get stale with some guys. So I think 639 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: even though he was trying to reinvent it, some there 640 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: got to be a little bit of a stale dimension 641 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: to it. And I think this culture, um, the one 642 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: thing that they stayed was in gage, you know, even 643 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: without success. They the two things that you heard were 644 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: the team was connected, you know, and that that was 645 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: a that was a big word. And try to be 646 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: complimentary in their play and sometimes they were and sometimes 647 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: that was their biggest problem, playing non complimentary football instead 648 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: of complimentary football. But if you can get the two c's, 649 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, be connected and play you know, complimentary style 650 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: of ball, you can win some football games. And I 651 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: think they're striving towards that. Two ask lap questions left 652 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: from Brett. Who are some of the top targets the 653 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: Bengal should be considering with a thirty third pick in 654 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: the draft, in other words, the first pick of the 655 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: second round. Yeah, I mean going with the quarterback that 656 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: everybody thinks to'll go with obviously, and I do too 657 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: at this point in time. Um, you know, I think, 658 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 1: all right, what are what are the two areas that 659 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: come to mind from an improvement standpoint? Offensive line, linebacker, 660 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, on either side of the football, although you 661 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: know defensively they could take they could take a shot 662 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: in the arm at any position level. Duke Tobin pretty 663 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: much confirmed that down at the Senior Bowl that I mean, 664 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: we could take a influx the talent at any level 665 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: of the defense and be satisfied with it. So I 666 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: think with that thirty third pick, the best defensive player 667 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: that's on the board, unless again, it's such a deep 668 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver group. If you've got six wide receivers that 669 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 1: you say are first rounders and only five of them 670 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: go and there's the sixth one still there at number 671 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: thirty three, man, you got to think about it. And 672 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: then this is where it gets interesting too, Dan, is 673 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: that you know, okay, well, how many teams are gonna 674 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: call the Bengals with a trade for Joe Barrow? Maybe 675 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: not any how many are gonna call the Bengals in 676 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: Day two with the thirty third pick a lot because 677 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: when they when the first round's done, and everybody shifts. 678 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: It sets their board. Well, maybe the best receiver and 679 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,959 Speaker 1: that somebody desperately needs wide receiver. I'm gonna I'm gonna 680 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: make a trade. I'm gonna call the Bengals. I'm gonna 681 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: give you this, this, and this to get to that 682 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: thirty third pick. And you have to say, Okay, here 683 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: are some of the best defensive players on the board. 684 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: Will they be there? How far? I can't move further 685 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: back than this, this or this, but I'm going to 686 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: pick up these additional picks. I think it's going to 687 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: happen at thirty three. I think it's gonna happen at 688 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: sixty five because you know this second and third round. 689 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: So to start the fourth round, the ninety fifth pick 690 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: in the draft, the Bengals have made trades in the 691 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: fourth round trying to get up to the top of 692 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: the board to start the day. Every new day of 693 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 1: the draft, the Bengals are going to have people calling 694 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: because they have the first pick in that new day 695 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: of the draft, first round, then the second and third 696 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: the next day, who starts their second round Bengals, Who 697 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: starts the fourth round? And Day three Bengals. So I 698 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: mean I think I think they've got some draft capital 699 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: that people are gonna have some interest in. And I 700 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna just have seven draft picks when 701 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: this draft is over with. That's my can extra on it. 702 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: But maybe the is the best linebacker available at thirty three, 703 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: better than the best rush guy on the board, or 704 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: the best you know, wide receiver, or the best interior 705 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,919 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I mean, I'm thinking the thirty third pick. 706 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: If I can get the best defensive player as opposed 707 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: to the best interior offensive lineman, I'm going best defensive 708 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: football player. I mean, there has to be a big 709 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: disparity there for it to be otherwise to me. So 710 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 1: I think they're going to be obviously in good positions 711 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: to you know, in coaching in the Senior Bowl, they 712 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: may have been coaching their thirty third pick, their sixty 713 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: fifth pick, they're ninety fifth pick. Whatever they may have 714 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 1: been coaching those guys they may have. They may take 715 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: a couple of those guys in those four picks that 716 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: they played in the Senior Bowl, and Joe Burrow they 717 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: tried to get to play in the Senior Bowl. If 718 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: they take Joe at number one and U and two 719 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: other guys they played with or coached against in the 720 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl in the first four rounds. It'd be worthwhile 721 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: to have been down there at that Senior Bowl. Final 722 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: question from a Twitter follower, This is from James. Where 723 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: are you becoming an offensive line coach? Man? You know 724 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: it's funny when when down there at the at the 725 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. It does when you see guys that that 726 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: caliber going after each other, it's it kind of gets 727 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: the juices flowing it, does you know? Um? You know 728 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: it's I James as who thats just James? You've hit 729 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: on Probably my maybe my biggest regret is that I 730 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: did not try the coaching side of it. And it 731 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: would have been the best time to do. It would 732 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: have been after I was done playing and could have 733 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: forced Greg. It could have been an opportunity. There are opportunities. Uh, 734 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, I cropped up at the college level when 735 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: I was doing some college football for Fox. Just had 736 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: a recent opportunity, um that you know that decided not 737 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: to do. But I think going from it's it used 738 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: to be you never went from player to broadcast to coach. 739 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: Once you went to the broadcast, you went to the 740 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: devil man. You know, it's like you decided that's it. 741 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: There's no there's no return. You can't buy get out 742 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 1: of a jail card. Now it's it happens. I mean 743 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: not only because head coach is GMS everybody, it's it's 744 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: it's wide open the talent pool. It's not segregated anymore. 745 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: It's wide open talent pool. So yeah, I wish I 746 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: had done it at a younger age because that's the 747 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: one thing that is always going to haunt me. Could 748 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 1: I have done it? I know I would have liked it. 749 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: Could I have done it successfully? I feel like I 750 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,919 Speaker 1: could have How far could you have gone with it? 751 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: You know? Questions that will never be answered. So James, 752 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: you hit the nerve. Man, you hit the nerve. You 753 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: would have been great at that. But we all know 754 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: you're awesome at broadcasting, and I, for one, am grateful 755 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: you made the choice you made. Well, I'll tell you what. 756 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: It's it's a play. As you're working with a Hall 757 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: of famer, you know, on on a weekly basis. I 758 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: can tell you that. And I don't even look at 759 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: it as work. Damn. I mean to me, it's like, man, 760 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: we're just we're just we're having fun. You know, I mean, 761 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: I wish everybody's job lent them as much uh you know, 762 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: joy and fun and everything else as we have with ours. 763 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: It's like I got I've told my kids that, you know, 764 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: I my one wish would be that that your quote job, 765 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: your vocation, your advocation and vocation would be the same 766 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: thing like mine has been for most of my life. 767 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: And if, as we anticipate, the Bengals select Joe Burrow 768 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: on April the twenty third, think how much fun training 769 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: camp is going to be? Oh man, it's going to be. 770 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: It will be. It'll be a lot of fun. They 771 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: say that this guy is he's the real deal. His 772 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: girlfriend lives right up here in Mason. You know that 773 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: that was that was interesting. You see, came so close, 774 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: so close, and your boy was fruiting the girlfriend. I 775 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: talked to him down to the senior moll Yeah, Luke 776 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: and and I you know, I said, boy, it was 777 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: that close. I mean Dan told me that, you know Burrow, Oh, 778 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: he said, dude, it was it was us an Lsu 779 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: it was us and and he said I was recruiting. 780 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,439 Speaker 1: I said, the girlfriend living right in Mason. He goes, oh, man, 781 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: you don't think that was part of my strategy. I'm like, 782 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: come on, now, you let him go to Louisiana. These 783 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: long distance relationships sometimes don't work out. But what a 784 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: great guy Luca is, by the way, and what a 785 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: great job he's done. But um yeah, that's it makes 786 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: so many so much sense on so many levels. I mean, 787 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: his girlfriend lives right here in Mason. Get drafted by 788 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals the wedding in Mason, Sam Hubbard best man, 789 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: Sam Harbard best man. But they are they are good 790 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: guy be in the wedding party maybe so uh you know, 791 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 1: that would be that would be uh, that would be nice. 792 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: I really would would be a would be a heck 793 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: of a heck of a draft to get to get 794 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow in the fold. And that's going to do 795 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: it for this episode of the podcast. If you haven't 796 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: done so already, don't forget to subscribe on iTunes, Stitcher, 797 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean, and if you have 798 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: a minute, please give it a rating or share a comment. 799 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: Those five star ratings help more Bengals fans find this podcast. 800 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: I'm Dan Horde, and thank you for listening to The 801 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast.