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Speaker 2: Happy Monday to you. Maybe a vacation for a lot

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Speaker 2: of people. Is the Christmas holidays just a couple of

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Speaker 2: days away? Merry Christmas? Do you carry rhads? Merry Christmas?

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Speaker 1: Dan?

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Speaker 2: Carrie and I got together yesterday during all the week

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Speaker 2: sixteen action, and my how things have changed even with

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Speaker 2: the games happening less than twenty four hours ago, including

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Speaker 2: this drama in Motown between DK Metcalf and the Detroit

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Speaker 2: Lions fan Jason Stewart. This year, Iowa Sam hanging out,

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Speaker 2: Prime Video starting January eighth. You don't sign up, I'll

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Speaker 2: watch it. Maybe a little too late right now? You

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Speaker 2: know who else is fit? Dk Metcalf? He is right.

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Speaker 2: Metcalf really came onto the NFL stage with that side

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Speaker 2: by side picture of him and a J. Brown flexing

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Speaker 2: in the weight room. Right like that was the emergence

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Speaker 2: of DK Metcalf, before he ever stepped onto an NFL field,

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Speaker 2: You then have DK Metcalf. One of the lasting images

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Speaker 2: of DK Metcalf is chasing down Buddha Baker because he's

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Speaker 2: running down the sidelines in Arizona as a member of

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks. The DK Metcalf chases down Buddha Baker, and

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Speaker 2: we talk about the speed, and we talk about the

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Speaker 2: hustle and the desire of DK Metcalf. Unfortunately, this year

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Speaker 2: we've been talking a lot about what's the deal with

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Speaker 2: DK Metcalf, And now we have quite a deal with

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Speaker 2: DK Metcalf as he got in the face of a

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Speaker 2: Lions fan during yesterday's game in Detroit, and now it's

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Speaker 2: gotten to the point where the fan has hired a lawyer.

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Speaker 2: NFL insiders are weighing in all from a game that

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Speaker 2: we should be talking about how the Steelers stole from

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Speaker 2: the Lions and went into Detroit and grabbed the victory

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Speaker 2: to ensure their tight grasp on the AFC North that

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Speaker 2: they have right now, but we aren't talking about that.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about DK and this fan. Yeah, No, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a crazy moment.

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Speaker 3: We were we were actually here in the building and

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Speaker 3: doing some work and watching some of the games, and

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Speaker 3: I know we were going through a conversation and I

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Speaker 3: saw it flash in front of my eyes as it

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Speaker 2: Was like, oh, that's not good.

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Speaker 3: DK Metcalf and then obviously I think the conversation kind

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Speaker 3: of went along a little further with me and you

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Speaker 3: and you were like, I think that that fan probably

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Speaker 3: did something, you know, like if the fan did something,

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Speaker 3: I can understand it, but not in the not in

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Speaker 3: DK's actions. Obviously, you don't attack a fan, but these

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Speaker 3: fans are getting really brash and they're getting a little

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Speaker 3: bit out of pocket and some of the things they're saying,

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Speaker 3: and so the fact that there's no live mike in

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Speaker 3: the area to hear what's what's being said, really I

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Speaker 3: have to kind of reserve judgment, but I want to

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Speaker 3: hear what you got, what you think about it day.

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Speaker 2: Well, I told you yesterday that I thought that if

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Speaker 2: you're a fan that yells something to a player that

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Speaker 2: forces them to respond to you, especially during game action,

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Speaker 2: yeah you're a loser. It is if you have I

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Speaker 2: understand getting under somebody's skin by saying maybe they went

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Speaker 2: three for twenty from the field. Yeah, But if you

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Speaker 2: say something that gets under the skin of a player

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Speaker 2: and that player responds in a certain way, I think

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Speaker 2: that you've got to find better things to do as

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Speaker 3: And see that's my and that's what we disagree, because

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Speaker 3: there is a moment of me as a player, right,

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Speaker 3: I've people have said all kinds of things, right, and

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Speaker 3: it doesn't bother me. But you know, and so I

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Speaker 3: will say, like, as a player, you can't be sensitive

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Speaker 3: in those moments or no, obviously I told you you

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Speaker 3: big game and you gotta be focused on that. The

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Speaker 3: next series. What did he do? He came out and

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Speaker 2: Now, it depends on what they said.

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Speaker 3: What he said though, and there are some circumstances about

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Speaker 2: Now what the fan said was that he said DK

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Speaker 2: Metcalf's government name. I thought he said as Kyles was small.

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Speaker 2: Oh he didn't say that. He said DK may have

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Speaker 2: but the fan claims that he was calling him de Kaylin.

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Speaker 2: It's the Carrius Metcalf, which was his That's what DK

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Speaker 2: stands for, and that's what DK was upset about. That

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Speaker 2: was the fans side of things. I don't believe that.

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Speaker 2: You don't you don't believe that. No, you don't think

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Speaker 2: that he was just saying that. You know, like when

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Speaker 2: for himself and he stood up for his name, which

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Speaker 2: I can understand, Like I'm proud of my name. You

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Speaker 2: it's his family name. It's his you know, his family

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Speaker 2: that he has, his family that came before him. Stand

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Speaker 2: up for it. I've been known to make silly puns

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Speaker 2: on names, but ultimately just ingest I I feel like

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Speaker 2: this was a part of that. So while I say

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Speaker 2: that if you're a fan, that makes another player respond,

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Speaker 2: this is a really really low boss. This is a

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Speaker 2: really really low bar. So I was waiting to hear more,

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Speaker 2: and then we started to hear more. Carry Rhoads and

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Speaker 2: this is what something just doesn't smell right. This was

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Speaker 2: Chad Ocho Sinko with Shannon Sharp I'm the Nightcap talking

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Speaker 2: about the interaction and what Ocho heard was said to

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Speaker 4: I got word obviously, i'm knocking doing you know, putting

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Speaker 4: your hands on the fan or punching the fan. But

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Speaker 4: he did call a racial slurry, called him in word,

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Speaker 4: and he did call his mama. And I think with

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Speaker 4: those words be in exchanged and the fans saying that,

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Speaker 4: I think that's where the action, you know, occurred, where

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Speaker 4: he threw I think he threw a punch. I'm not

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Speaker 4: sure if he connected or or whatever. But he did

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Speaker 4: call him then in word, and he called his mama.

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Speaker 2: See word you say the sea word ojo.

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Speaker 4: Oh my bad.

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Speaker 2: That's bad, yes, bad, terror, It's terrible. Okay, is that bad?

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Speaker 2: I can't take any of my femotion. I actually think

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Speaker 2: like that's like the new number one. It's right like

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Speaker 2: like of of you know, I mean, yeah, but there's

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Speaker 2: none of this was said. I am sorry there that

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Speaker 2: that did not happen, That relaying of events did not happen.

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Speaker 2: The fan has actually now gotten representation, has hired a

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Speaker 2: lawyer and vehemently denies what chad Ocho Cinco said that

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Speaker 2: the fan said to DK Metcalf, do you believe o

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Speaker 2: Cho Sinko or do you believe this fan who says

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Speaker 2: he never said it. I don't believe either one.

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Speaker 3: I think there's something in the middle because if he reacted,

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Speaker 3: if DK reacted the way he react with the fan

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Speaker 3: quote unquote saying his full name, and he reacted that way,

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Speaker 3: that doesn't sit well with me. But also on the

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Speaker 3: other end of that as well, if that fan said

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Speaker 3: he would have reacted even bigger than that. And so

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Speaker 3: if it's somewhere in the middle, and I don't think

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Speaker 3: we'll ever actually know until they handle this in court.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And that's why I think it's now starting to

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Speaker 2: become a cover up for DK Metcalf, because now you're

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Speaker 2: hearing all these stories that are coming out. This is

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Speaker 2: a fan who dressed up in a blue wig, all right,

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Speaker 2: this is right. This is a guy who has fifty

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Speaker 2: yard line seats as well at Lions games, and you

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Speaker 2: think that he's going to spend the thousands upon thousands

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Speaker 2: of dollars to yell these hateful things at players on

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Speaker 2: the opposing bench. He probably pays the money to call

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Speaker 2: him by his government name. It's probably what he does.

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Speaker 2: And yesterday when we were here, I thought, man, that's

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Speaker 2: garbage from the fan for whatever he said to me.

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Speaker 2: DK Metcalf and I am completely now on the other side,

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Speaker 2: I think that DK Metcalf and the Steelers and these

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Speaker 2: sources that are going to NFL insiders are now trying

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Speaker 2: to concoct this story that this fan said this vicious

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Speaker 2: thing the DK Metcalf, that DK had to respond in

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Speaker 2: the only way that he could, and that is to

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Speaker 2: physically throw a slap, punch, whatever it was, towards the

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Speaker 2: fan because of Howard egregious of the things that the

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Speaker 2: fan said. And when I look at the video and

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Speaker 2: I see the fans around two seats away, as a

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Speaker 2: boy in a Santa camp An Alliance Santa cap, his

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Speaker 2: mom is sitting between him and the fan. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if they're together. I have no idea. No one

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Speaker 2: responded in a way where if you were to hear

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Speaker 2: a football game, that there are people around that would

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Speaker 2: gladly point out that fan for sure, And now the

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Speaker 2: NFL machine is trying to concoct this story that DK

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Speaker 2: Metcalf is not only a victim because of what was said,

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Speaker 2: that this fan also said things to him last year

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Speaker 2: when he was a member of the Seahawks, right, And

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Speaker 2: I just I don't think this fan is like, you

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Speaker 2: know what, I didn't get under his skin enough last year,

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Speaker 2: let me use some racial slurs and just completely totally

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Speaker 2: insult his mother. I just don't think that that's not reality.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing that now annoys me about this

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Speaker 2: is I hated that the fan did this, and now

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Speaker 2: I see how thin a skin Dk Metcalf has. It's

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Speaker 2: completely bogus on the Steelers wad receivers part. Damn.

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Speaker 3: Just letting you know it right now. You're sitting really

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Speaker 3: you're sitting like arms length away from me. If you

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Speaker 3: call me Carrie Dwayne Road, that's a problem. Just so

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Speaker 3: you understand that. Yeah, Sam Jason, I think you guys

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Speaker 3: hear this. Just make sure you guys are aware. But no,

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Speaker 3: I mean when you talk about DK. We talked about

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Speaker 3: DK in the situation Dan I got said for me

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Speaker 3: as a player and being a former player, like these

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Speaker 3: things happen, So the racial slurry, whatever the thing is,

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Speaker 3: whatever happened in that moment, it still doesn't warrant him

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Speaker 3: putting his hands on him. And so for me, it's

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Speaker 3: just it's all bogus. And then when you talk about

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Speaker 3: the Nightcap, you talk about Oto and those guys, like

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Speaker 3: you can't take Oto series for anything, he says, anyway,

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Speaker 3: so you just got to kind of, you know, move along.

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Speaker 2: I agree, well, I agree to some sense, but there

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Speaker 2: is a wait in who Ocho Sinko is. He's a

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Speaker 2: former player and so now in that circles and he

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Speaker 2: has the platform to do so this is this is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Jason Stewart, our executive producer. We've also seen this before

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Speaker 2: at times, but I just I have a tough time

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Speaker 2: believing that that's actually what was said to DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 5: I do too, And maybe as a middle aged white guy,

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Speaker 5: I shouldn't have an opinion on this, but you would

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Speaker 5: think after the whole Jesse Smolette thing, m hmm, combined

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Speaker 5: with the Miles Garrett thing from twenty nineteen where that

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Speaker 5: was never even resolved, Like, I can't imagine that May

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Speaker 5: and Rudolph said that, and it is still a quarterback

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Speaker 5: in the NFL. Like, so when you have these allegations,

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Speaker 2: Who cares? But this is what we're talking about. He

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Speaker 2: Happy Monday to you getting ready for Niners and Colts.

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Speaker 2: You don't see this game too often? Once every four years? Wow?

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Speaker 2: How was your weekend? Carry Roads. We're gonna find out

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Speaker 2: in a segment we like to call love and Hate.

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Speaker 6: What did you God?

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Speaker 2: I love you and what did you hate? Meet?

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Speaker 2: Basically go around with the crew Isaac, Jason, Sham myself

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Speaker 2: and you Carrie. Tell us what we loved and what

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you if you got any more hates,

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Speaker 5: I really liked that my Los Angeles Chargers and Isaac

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Speaker 6: What I loved from the weekend was one of the

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Speaker 2: How do you put seven fireball shooters in your pocket?

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Speaker 2: From me as well. Exactly I know that? Is that

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Speaker 2: Yes it was. I know some may not agree or

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00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 2: say it's not saying a lot, but I I absolutely

431
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 2: loved it. Io was Sam, what'd you love from the weekend?

432
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 7: You can also buy those fireball and like little six

433
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 7: and eight packs as well, so they come in all

434
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 7: different really, all the different delivery methods there.

435
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: Are you a pro? Are you still keeping your amateur status?

436
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 2: I don't.

437
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 7: I don't touch fireball. It's it's I don't know, it's

438
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 7: it's a gimmick. It's a gimmick. Liqueur. My love of

439
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 7: the weekend was going over to A. Rich Davis's house,

440
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 7: a co host of Kamnia Rich a show you'll hear

441
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 7: right after this show, and watching the Jake Paul Fight,

442
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 7: watching some college football playoff Alabama and Oklahoma, out on

443
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 7: a Rich's giant projector on his patio and eating all

444
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 7: kinds of food. A Rich had a great spread of food,

445
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 7: a little Mexican platter and chicken wings pizza. So that

446
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 7: was my social activity of the weekend was Friday night

447
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 7: going over to Rich's house and see the.

448
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 6: Rest of us got our invitations lost in the mail

449
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 6: of I know some.

450
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 2: Of you were invited, but yeah, are you sure about that?

451
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 8: Well?

452
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, Carry or Isaac, but I

453
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: was was un daycared, yes, not daycare duty. I'm hanging

454
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 2: out with yeah, dad care. Yeahh Why don't you just

455
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 2: throw a pen at me? That's right, because you never do.

456
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: Don't ever throw Brody under the bus. No I did,

457
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: trust me. I'd hang out with him every second of

458
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: the day if I could. But but it was it

459
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: was him and I on on Friday. All right, good,

460
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: good list of love? Now what did you hate from

461
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 2: the weekend? All right, I'm gonna just take this one.

462
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: There you go, because it stems off of what Carrie

463
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 2: loved and hate his performance. So I come to find

464
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: out Carrie and I do the show on Sunday, So

465
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 2: it's me Carry rhads Mancy Belanos is at the news desk.

466
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: Shay's our executive producer, and Mary Mack is our technical

467
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 2: producer for two thirds of the show. And I see

468
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: that on social media that Carrie's got an audience of

469
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 2: our show, and nobody told me they were going. It

470
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 2: was going to be very, very difficult for me to

471
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: go because of the situation, and me and Brody were

472
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 2: hanging out on Friday night, but no one bothered to say,

473
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: you know what, We've got eighty percent of the crew

474
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 2: that is like, here, we should maybe ask the twenty

475
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: percent of he's available. No, didn't happen. So you want

476
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: to talk about like not getting invites, that was one

477
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: of them to carry show on Friday night, clarify that, Dan,

478
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: I gave you the invite though you did. Okay, yes,

479
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: all right, all right. But I was thinking, I'm like, okay,

480
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 2: how can I make this work. My wife's like, hey,

481
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: if you need to, you know, need to drop Brody

482
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: off with me. You know, I'll be home a little

483
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: bit later. She had a birthday thing that she was

484
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: doing with her sister and some other friends and it

485
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 2: just didn't work out. But I'm like, oh, there's our

486
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: there's our Sunday show. So clear this up for me.

487
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 5: I think for the listeners that are confused, your hate

488
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 5: is that you didn't get included, but you got an invite.

489
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: What's what's the hate? I got invited? Okay? They all

490
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: chose to go together, like it. It was a Manzi

491
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 2: Shay and oh I saw these pictures. Yeah, yeh, but

492
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: Marry couldn't make it, so then it was Manzi and see.

493
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: But at no point were they like, did anybody ask

494
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 2: Dan at zero? Like it never even crossed their mind

495
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: whatsoever to check in again. It was going to be difficult,

496
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: But just because I'm not able to go doesn't mean

497
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to be asked, right, The infight still

498
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: goes a long way. Yes, correct, Correct, That's what I

499
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: hated from the weekend, all right, Jason Stewart.

500
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 5: I kind of hated what became of the Christmas Day

501
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 5: NFL schedule given the results of the weekend dead one

502
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 5: the games on Christmas, if you're not aware, Cowboys at Commanders,

503
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 5: Wyons at Minnesota, Broncos at Chiefs, there would have been

504
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 5: a little bit of interest in a couple of these

505
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 5: games if the results of yesterday were different. And now

506
00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 5: they're just pretty much non factors. So the NFL kind

507
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 5: of shot itself on the foot here. They're providing nine

508
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 5: to ten hours of NFL action was seemingly nothing on

509
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 5: the line unless you're in your fantasy football super Bowl,

510
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 5: which I am not, and unless you gamble on games,

511
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 5: which I know. There's a big market of those people

512
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 5: and I am not, so I think I'm gonna be

513
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 5: just watching Christmas movies.

514
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I still think that they will get big numbers

515
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: because we had seen things giving games in the past

516
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: with the Lions that didn't rate, and you still have

517
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. It's still the Cowboys. Even though there's not

518
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 2: a lot to play for, the Cowboys are still a

519
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: part of that. I don't know if the Lions and

520
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 2: Vikings are bringing in a bunch of people, but I

521
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: still think that the Cowboys brand will help with that.

522
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: And it's a holiday and I think people will default

523
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: the football over the NBA schedule that day, And that

524
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: kind of fallows in the line.

525
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: With my hate Dan. I hate that we compare all

526
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: the time. I hate that we live in the world

527
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 3: that's all about comparison, or you're not better than this player,

528
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: or this thing isn't showing better than this thing or whatever.

529
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: So talk about the NFL games and the and these

530
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: Christmas Day games like I don't really. I mean, if

531
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: you watch those, I think that's fine. I'm you know me,

532
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be watching the NBA on Christmas. I'm a

533
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: big NBA guy. So I hate the comparison game because

534
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: I think you can do both, and I think there's

535
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: a market for both, and that's kind of where I fall.

536
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 3: I think that's my biggest hate for this.

537
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: You know this, did your hate come up like just

538
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: immediately after I said it, like in comparing the NFL

539
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: in the NBA, like saying that people default to the NFL.

540
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, When when Jay when Jay

541
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 3: Stu brought it up? Because it is that it is

542
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: disappointment slate, this disappointing slate of games for sure, Like

543
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: there's no like I want to watch that game because

544
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: it means something to what matters. But with the NBA,

545
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: you still have teams that aren't really good that can

546
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: be scheduled for that Christmas Day game before the season,

547
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: and I still take place in watching it. So I

548
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: don't know, it's just a weird thing, even Lebron doesn't

549
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: want to show up.

550
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 5: I saw that there is a humble there's a humble

551
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 5: bride in this. I know, I understand, but like for

552
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 5: most of the listeners, they could just kind of not

553
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 5: pay attention at all now to Christmas Day games and

554
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: their life won't change. But for those of us that

555
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 5: work on Friday, we're almost compelled to pay attention to

556
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 5: games that seemingly have That's true, no meaning, that's true.

557
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: So am I wronging saying that Spurs Thunder is by

558
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: far the most fun game on Christmas Day, even with Rockets,

559
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: Lakers and Mavericks and Warriors. No, you're you might be right, Like,

560
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you might be right that considering what we

561
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: just had in NBA Cup. So yeah, I'm curious to

562
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: see how that game would match up to the other games.

563
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: Isaac Lohnkrawn, what'd you hate from the weekend?

564
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say I hated, but deep down I am

565
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 6: endlessly amused by this. This is also really not technically

566
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 6: from the weekend. It happened early this morning, and I

567
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 6: thought it was going to be a bigger topic than

568
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 6: it turned out to be. But Bill Belichick is reportedly

569
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 6: close to hiring Bobby Petrino as the new offensive coordinator

570
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 6: at North Carolina. Just to refresh people's memory. This is

571
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 6: the same person who thirteen years ago wound up being

572
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 6: fired as the head coach at Arkansas after he got

573
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 6: into a motorcycle crash and lied about being alone on

574
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 6: the motorcycle when it turned out that his young mistress

575
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 6: was on the motorcycle. So understandably, social media has reacted

576
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 6: with great, great measured discipline to this news. At C

577
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 6: Kurtzman commenting guaranteed to get Harley Davidson nil deals, at

578
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 6: Andy Boomer Sooner posting double dates about to look like

579
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 6: daughter day at the old folks home, and at CFB

580
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 6: brew Crew posting quote, please go after coach O to

581
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 6: make this the horniest sideline in all of college football. Unquote.

582
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, Bill Belichick could not sculpt the

583
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 6: whole villain business any further than those folks.

584
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: I've already covered it. He hires Sharon Moore while you're

585
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: what I was thinking, That's what I was taking.

586
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 6: Might have been the runner up.

587
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: Aside from hate not being included. I was invited. I

588
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: just wasn't included. Trevion Henderson getting knocked out of the

589
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: Ravens game yesterday. Oh dagger in fantasy leagues. Oh you

590
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: were one of my own, all right, Iowa, Sam? Would

591
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: you hate from the weekend?

592
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 7: Well, the last two weeks of being a Green Bay

593
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 7: Packer fan have been brutal, brutal. Okay, you go back

594
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 7: two games ago. They lose in Denver, they lose. Micah

595
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 7: Parsons morale takes a big hit. You're feeling bad as

596
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 7: a Packer fan. Fast forward though to this past Saturday

597
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 7: when they played. Packers had a ten point lead with

598
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 7: five minutes to go. Jordan Love has a concussion. He's

599
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 7: knocked out. That's also that's a big deal. We'll see

600
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 7: how that plays out. But Malik Willis comes in, does

601
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 7: an admirable job. They're up by ten with five minutes

602
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 7: to go. Caleb Williams shows why he is ahead of

603
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 7: I mean, is he ahead of schedule?

604
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: I think so.

605
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 7: I mean their team's ahead of schedule. Shows you why

606
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 7: he was the number one overall. Pick gets them tied.

607
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 7: They win in overtime, and now you have a situation

608
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 7: where the Packers, if they had won that game against

609
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 7: the Bears, they would have swept the Bears. They would

610
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 7: have been really great shape. They would have clinched a playoff.

611
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 7: I don't know what the division, it is still pretty

612
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 7: much the Bears to lose, right, yes, And so now

613
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 7: you go from if you won that game, you would

614
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 7: have been in great shape. Now you're fighting for a

615
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 7: wildcard spot. The love or the health of Jordan Love

616
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 7: is in question, obviously, no, Micaeh Parsons for the rest

617
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 7: of the year. Your morale. You thought, Okay, we just

618
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 7: win this game and we're feeling good. We're feeling good again.

619
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 7: But it's two back to back losses, a lot of

620
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 7: big injuries for the Packers in that game, and obviously

621
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 7: Michaeh Parsons. It's a hard time being a Packer fan

622
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 7: right now.

623
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: On side kick, I mean it was I don't know

624
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 2: what Romeo Dobbs was doing, but that works what eight

625
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: percent of the time they said yes, And.

626
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: It was a terrible kick. It was a soft line

627
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: or two. I was like, this is easy catch the ball,

628
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: get down, didn't do it.

629
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 7: It was just like a Shakespearean style tragic unfolding of

630
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 7: events the Packers.

631
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: It was crazy because I didn't think that Thursday could

632
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: be rivaled and I thought that maybe Saturday night topped

633
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: it because of the history of Packers Bears. What went on,

634
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: like it was just crazy and the Bears continue this crazy,

635
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: crazy run and.

636
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: That throw by Caleb Williams it could be the best

637
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: throw of the season. Sure, yeah, do you think that

638
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: he brings up the Bears are on the right path?

639
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: I thought yesterday and Saturday was like it Really it

640
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: was a weekend for the hot sexy offensive coordinator. When

641
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: you talk about Ben Johnson and Dave Canalis and William

642
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: Cohen and where they have their teams, you're going into

643
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: another coaching hiring cycle. I think it's going to be

644
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Speaker 3: all sexy coordinators, offensive offensive coordinators because of the success

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Speaker 3: of these three guys. What do you guys think?

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Speaker 2: Yes, because everything is is it's a copycat league. Is

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Speaker 2: the phrase that I was looking for. Yeah, and then

648
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Speaker 2: what ends up happening is you hire unqualified guys because

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Speaker 2: they fit this profile and this trend, and then your

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Speaker 2: back where you started three years prior.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy because I think, yeah, you said it's

652
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Speaker 3: a copycat league, and so it's whatever. It is kind

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Speaker 3: of in vogue at the time, but right now you

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Speaker 3: think about all those guys. You can go even further, right,

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Speaker 3: you go, Kyle Sanahan, you can go you know McVeigh here.

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Speaker 3: They're all offensive guys, right, And I think when you

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Speaker 3: have that top notts offensive guy and you actually allow

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Speaker 3: yourself to delegate the power defensively special teams in the

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Speaker 3: right pocket, that's the right recipe, and that is love

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Speaker 2: what it was. Yeah, can you skate? I can? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean I'm not doing any triple. That's why you asked.

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Speaker 2: I want you to. I want you to. I want

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Speaker 5: Come on, Dang.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens could not skate by the Patriots last night,

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Speaker 2: losing to Baltimore, and they also lost quarterback Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: again and ultimately lost season for the Ravens. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if they really think. I know this for a fact.

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Speaker 2: The city of Baltimore knows they're not going to win

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Speaker 2: the AFC North. Maybe the only people who believe that

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Speaker 2: they still have a chance of the people in that building,

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Speaker 2: and that is not uncommon. But when Lamar jactually goes

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Speaker 2: down now with a back injury, after dealing with his

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Speaker 2: hamstring injury earlier this season, and after being seemingly limited

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Speaker 2: when he came back from the hamstring injury, just an

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Speaker 2: absolutely lost season for the Baltimore Ravens on the heels

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Speaker 2: of two absolutely epic performances by Lamar in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: three in twenty twenty four. And now you wonder what

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Speaker 2: the future holds because Derrick Henry is Derrick Henry. The

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Speaker 2: defense is missing a lot of pieces rough times with

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Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens. Yeah, this is a very disappointing season. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: comingto the year, I think they were the odds. Well,

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Speaker 2: I would say they were high on a lot of

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Speaker 2: people's list of being the representative of the AFC. And

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Speaker 2: then you come out and you play that first game

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Speaker 2: against Buffalo and it looks like that they are that team.

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Speaker 2: And then that fourth quarter against Buffalo that told the

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Speaker 2: rest of this season for the Baltimore Ravens. They imploded

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Speaker 2: it in the fourth quarter. They've been known for having implosions,

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Speaker 2: even in the years when Lamar was right, and so

705
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Speaker 2: to come into a season where him he hasn't played

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Speaker 2: like the Lamar that we've seen the last couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Could it be injury, could it be other things? I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 3: I would probably tend to say it's more injury than

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Speaker 3: anything else because of just recent history. But this team

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Speaker 3: isn't put together well. Their star players never show up

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Speaker 3: in the big moments. They always have negative moments in

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Speaker 3: the big moments. And so when you add all that

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Speaker 3: up and then you talk about John Harball, him being

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Speaker 3: the guy that's leading this group. In my opinion, I

716
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Speaker 3: never talk about coaches being fired, but I think for

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Speaker 3: him this is probably his last run as well, or

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Speaker 3: it should be. And you got to bring in new blood,

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Speaker 3: you got to bring in the fresh, a different voice

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Speaker 3: for that locker room. And they still have some players

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Speaker 3: that can play and be of great service in the league.

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Speaker 3: But it's gonna be it's an uphill climb.

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Speaker 2: I also think you're just gonna see Lamar Jackson be

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Speaker 2: a different quarterback than he was the first portion of

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Speaker 2: his career. That's just to be honest. He's not gonna

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Speaker 2: be fast as fast as he was when he was

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Speaker 2: twenty three and twenty four years old. Like, there are

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Speaker 2: decisions that the Ravens are going to have to make.

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Speaker 2: Let's ask a guy who's been in that chair before

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Speaker 2: one that Eric, the coostin the Ravens organization is going

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Speaker 2: to have to decide. Former NFLGM and the Chargers and

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Speaker 2: Raiders Tom Telesco joins us here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Tom, welcome in, glad to have you,

734
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Speaker 2: and we'll put you in the hot seat right away. Like,

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Speaker 2: is this a rebuild? Is this a teardown thing with

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Speaker 2: the Ravens. How do the Ravens get back to being

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Speaker 2: the Ravens that we know of old.

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Speaker 8: Well, thanks for having me on again, And yeah, I'm

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Speaker 8: used to being in the hot seat. If this is

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Speaker 8: nothing new, this is a heck of a lot easier

741
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Speaker 8: than being in the GM hot speat. But yeah, I

742
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Speaker 8: was just listening a little bit before I came on,

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Speaker 8: and I do prescribe this theory. I think Keiley, what

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Speaker 8: you said, like, you can't be somewhere for too long

745
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Speaker 8: as the head coach and a general manager. Sometimes your

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Speaker 8: your voice starts to not have this have the same impact.

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Speaker 8: But to me, like John Harbaugh is no worse coach

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Speaker 8: now than he ever. I mean, he's still a very

749
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Speaker 8: good coach. Of course, you just don't change overnight. They

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Speaker 8: have a great program there this year, and it just

751
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Speaker 8: got hit by injury so hard early on this season

752
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Speaker 8: and they just never recovered from that. It just seemed

753
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Speaker 8: like just so many things went wrong the typically don't

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Speaker 8: go wrong with them, and it's hard to put your

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Speaker 8: finger on it. I thought they had one of the

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Speaker 8: best rosters in the league going into the season, I

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Speaker 8: will say during the year, and you finally saw some

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Speaker 8: of it last night on offense, where they were spreading

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Speaker 8: the ball around a little more than just relying on

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Speaker 8: Derrick Henry running the ball and then throwing the day

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Speaker 8: Flowers out of the slot. So because they have some players,

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Speaker 8: They've got Mark Andrews is a very good tight end,

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Speaker 8: Charlie Kolar got a couple of targets. They don't have

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Speaker 8: a lot at the outside receiver, you know, Hopkins's towards

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Speaker 8: the end. And Bateman, you know, there's some games he

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Speaker 8: just doesn't get a lot of action. They just rely

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Speaker 8: completely a Zave Flowers. But they did spread around a

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Speaker 8: little bit more last night. The defenses has been up

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Speaker 8: and down. A lot of it's just been injury based.

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Speaker 8: But I just think John Hobba is an excellent head coach.

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Speaker 8: Todd Munkin is a really good offensive coordinator that has

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Speaker 8: taken this offense forward. But this year for whatever reason,

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Speaker 8: you know, and injuries are part of it, not the

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Speaker 8: whole thing, but they just couldn't act get things going

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Speaker 8: to and.

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Speaker 3: That's and that's when you know as a GM and

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Speaker 3: as a as a former player myself, I mean, you

778
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Speaker 3: get in these locker rooms and you know you have talent,

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Speaker 3: and I think when you think about the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 3: I just think about them having top end talent. I

781
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Speaker 3: don't think they have a super talented roster. I think

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Speaker 3: they have good top end talent, but I don't think

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Speaker 3: they have the guys that throughout an NFL season, you

784
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Speaker 3: know you're going to have injury, right, and so you

785
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Speaker 3: have to prepare for that. And I just don't think

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Speaker 3: that's the case. And if that is the case, then

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Speaker 3: it has to be some coaching issues or something that's

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Speaker 3: happening in the functionality of that team as well.

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Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, well, you certainly may be right, and you know,

790
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Speaker 8: maybe a lot of us like myself, when I look

791
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Speaker 8: at the team going to the year, I thought they

792
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Speaker 8: were really talented. I thought they had a little hole

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Speaker 8: on the interior defensive line. Yeah, they end up being

794
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Speaker 8: probably a bigger hole than i'd anticipated. But you know,

795
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Speaker 8: as you put the team together, everyone's going to have

796
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Speaker 8: injuries and it kind of goes up and down. This year,

797
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Speaker 8: they get hit more than most, but that's when you

798
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Speaker 8: have to have other role players step into bigger roles

799
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Speaker 8: and play like starters and and take off. And they

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Speaker 8: just didn't at that this year.

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Speaker 2: Former NFL GM Tom Telesco joining US here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. He's the former All Pro Kerry Rhodes. I'm

803
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Speaker 2: Dan Byer sitting in on Fox Sports Radio. I'm curious

804
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Speaker 2: about the Dolphins situation because they let go of Chris Greers,

805
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Speaker 2: their general manager. But then the narrative was Mike McDaniel's

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Speaker 2: going to be back in twenty twenty six. Did Chris

807
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Speaker 2: did the move to Quinn Yours solidify that McDaniel is

808
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Speaker 2: going to be around? Because I know it was a

809
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Speaker 2: rough day at his NFL debut, but Zach Wilson was

810
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Speaker 2: passed over as possibly being the as he was the

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Speaker 2: backup to Tua. Did that move to yours tell us

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Speaker 2: that Mike McDaniel's going to be back next year?

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Speaker 8: You know, in the month of December when it comes

814
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Speaker 8: to head coaches in GM's but certainly head coaches, there's

815
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Speaker 8: so much noise out there, it's hard to know what's

816
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Speaker 8: truthful and what isn't. I like Mike McDaniels. I like

817
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 8: his outside the box thinking. I think he really did

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Speaker 8: a great job with his team the second half of

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Speaker 8: the year, keeping them focused when they were basically out

820
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Speaker 8: of it pretty early on. But what I do think

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Speaker 8: is with the to a decision if they decide to

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Speaker 8: move on from him, very similar to the way that

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Speaker 8: Broncos moved down from Russell Wilson. It's going to take

824
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Speaker 8: up a big chunk of the salary cap. So the

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Speaker 8: second part of that has to be your quarterback more

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Speaker 8: than likely has to be a quarterback on a rookie

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Speaker 8: contract or else it's hard to feel the team. You

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Speaker 8: really can't go out and buy a freeging quarterback and

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Speaker 8: big money, not that there's one available, so I think,

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Speaker 8: and this year's draft is a bit thin. So I

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Speaker 8: think part of this is to see if Quinn yours

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Speaker 8: could be a guy for next year if we can't

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Speaker 8: find another quarterback, and they got to see what he is,

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Speaker 8: see what he has. But the fact that he's on

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Speaker 8: a rookie contract is what really helped salary cap wise,

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Speaker 8: So I think that was probably a big part of it,

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Speaker 8: to see what he has in the last couple of games,

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Speaker 8: you know. I mean, most ownerships GMS for an office

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Speaker 8: is you want to take the whole season, the whole

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Speaker 8: body of work before you make decisions. I think it's

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Speaker 8: hard to do that during the season because you're just

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Speaker 8: so emotional week the week. So let the whole season

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Speaker 8: play out, let it go from there, and I don't

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Speaker 8: know what's going to happen there, but they've got a

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Speaker 8: lot of potential changes on their horizon.

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Speaker 3: Tom, I want to I want to take you to

847
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Speaker 3: back to the NFC, and I want to talk about

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Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys. I know they've they've had some moments

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Speaker 3: this year. They've been up and down. Obviously, they lose

850
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Speaker 3: their top pass rusher, where they trade their top pass

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Speaker 3: rusher and they get some material help and and they

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Speaker 3: had a moment during the season where it looked pretty

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Speaker 3: good for them. I'm actually high on what they have

854
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Speaker 3: moving forward. But they also have a big decision with

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Speaker 3: George Pickens upcoming. What what do you if you're at

856
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Speaker 3: the GM, would you give him what he wanted or

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Speaker 3: how would you handle that situation? Knowing that they need

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Speaker 3: a few more things as well to make this team

859
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Speaker 3: get to where they want to ultimately go.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that is the million dollar, million dollar question going

861
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 8: into the offseason, because I love their offense, and their

862
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 8: offense they score a ton of points this year and

863
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 8: that's what they relied on because the defense just didn't

864
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 8: quite keep up.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 8: But part of that offense was George Pickens and George

867
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 8: Dickens has an outstanding year. But is this the type

868
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 8: of player that you want to give a long term

869
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 8: investment to, right It's hard, you know, looking from the outside.

870
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 8: Obviously the Steeler decided that they're going to go a

871
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 8: different direction. That wasn't wasn't for them the Cowboys. The

872
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 8: one thing that the Cowboys have that none of us

873
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 8: have is they see him every day in the buildings,

874
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Speaker 8: so they have a you know, hopefully a pretty good

875
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 8: evaluation of the person that they want to invest in.

876
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Speaker 8: Because if they've already invested in CDE Lamb. They paid

877
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Speaker 8: Jake Ferguson, you know, not nice City Lamb type money,

878
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 8: but you know, decent money for a tight end. You know,

879
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 8: they have Dak Prescott's contract, They have a pretty high

880
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 8: paid offensive line, so you have to decide where the

881
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 8: money goes. They need more help on defense, There's no

882
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 8: question about that. George Pickens is a dynamic player. But

883
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 8: these are the tough the tough decisions is this is

884
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 8: what GM's get paid for. It is just the guy

885
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 8: that you want to invest that much money in. For me,

886
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 8: since I have CD Lamb, I have Jake Ferguson, I

887
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 8: have Dak Prescott. I probably would use that money other places,

888
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 8: either offensive line or defense moving forward, but again we'll

889
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 8: kind of see where that fits.

890
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: In Tom's Alesco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,

891
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 2: former GM of the Raiders and Chargers. I understand we're

892
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 2: all kind of in the same boat. Maybe we haven't

893
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: been paying attention to Jacksonville as much as we should,

894
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: but yesterday was a perfect opportunity, late window going up

895
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 2: against the Denver Broncos, hottest team in the National Football League.

896
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: They go in and dominate that game. Is it just

897
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen or how did things turn around so much

898
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 2: for Jacksonville in a span of one year?

899
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm like you. When I saw them in September

900
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 8: and October, I just wasn't quite a believer yet. And

901
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 8: then against the Charger at won seven out of last

902
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 8: eight games, are only lost to Jacksonville, and Jacksonville blew

903
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 8: them out, and I know the Charges are a good team,

904
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 8: so I'm a believer now. And then we see yesterday

905
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 8: to going to Denver, which is one of the hardest

906
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 8: places to play, and play the way they did it

907
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 8: was just really impressive, and I mean, this team, they

908
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 8: have talent there and Liam Cohen is pressing all the

909
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 8: right buttons. And I love the fact that Trevor Lawrence

910
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 8: is really playing at consistent level of football, really decisive

911
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 8: in his decision making. Trevory ten is an excellent running back.

912
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 8: They kind of had a loan in his career, you know,

913
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 8: for a year or two, and he's back to where

914
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 8: where he was as as a rookie. And then the

915
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 8: Jacoby Myers trade was outstanding, a really shrewd move. And

916
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 8: I could see that coming a little bit, just with

917
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 8: Edgar Bennett being their receiver coach at Jacksonville and he

918
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 8: was a receiver coach with the Raiders when Jacoby Myers

919
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 8: was there, so there's a familiarity between the two. And

920
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 8: then watching Parker Washington yesterday, I mean, this guy is

921
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 8: a stud and he is you know, it was hard

922
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 8: for them to lose Travis Hunter, which is a you know,

923
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 8: they put a lot of assets into Travis Center to

924
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 8: draft them. But the benefit and the positive is is

925
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 8: Parker Washington now gets a lot more snaps and a

926
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 8: lot more targets and he can really play. So their

927
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 8: offensive talented, Their offensive line is very good. And I

928
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Speaker 8: mean that wasn't impressive win as you're going to see

929
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Speaker 8: yesterday against Denver.

930
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: That's the surprising part of me is and this is

931
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 2: no disrespect to Travis Hunter, but they got very little

932
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Speaker 2: out of Travis Hunter, especially considering he gave up a

933
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Speaker 2: first round pick next year for him. It seems like

934
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Speaker 2: it's they've even done better in spite of that. Like

935
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 2: imagine if their second overall pick it would have worked out.

936
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: It could have been maybe even better for Jacksonville.

937
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the problem when a player like Kim gets

938
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Speaker 8: hurt is you have two NDS facility, you got a

939
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Speaker 8: still corner, and you got a still receiver. He it's

940
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 8: not easy, especially at that level of talent. But you know,

941
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Speaker 8: they they made the trade for Newsome from from Cleveland,

942
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 8: and obviously they traded campbellfore him. But they've been able

943
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 8: to survive and on defensive corner not having Travis Hunter.

944
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 8: But I just think, you know, getting Parker Washington volved

945
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 8: Boar is a benefit. Jacoby Myers is so consistent because

946
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 8: we're out running in hands and then Brian Thomas, I know,

947
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 8: hasn't had the year it usually has. He's still a

948
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 8: dynamic threat. So they've got a lot of a lot

949
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 8: of pieces on offense.

950
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 2: Hey, Tom and Dan, you know what this you know

951
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: what this signifies.

952
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: I'm glad. I'm glad you brought up the Travis Hunter thing.

953
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 3: Dan is because the Park of Washington, he gets his

954
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 3: chance to do what he's done his whole life right

955
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 3: where Travis Hunter. I think with this Doults for Jacksonville,

956
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 3: it solidifies him as their corner moving forward. You do

957
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Speaker 3: like a package of him on the offense, but not

958
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 3: trying to do both ways.

959
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 8: In my opinion, Yeah, this could change moving forward, I think,

960
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 8: and we'll see how it plays out. I mean, Travis

961
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 8: is a dynamic athlete, but when you're you know, six foot,

962
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 8: one hundred and eighty five pounds playing both ways in

963
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 8: the NFL for you know, one hundred plus mats a

964
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 8: game over eighteen weeks, that's just really physically taxing and

965
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 8: you may not reach your ceiling at either position by

966
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Speaker 8: doing that. So, you know, this could lead them a

967
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 8: different direction. I don't know, We'll see. This is you know,

968
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Speaker 8: a question for next year. We'll talk about by all summer.

969
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 8: But they have a lot of talent on the opposite

970
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 8: side of the ball. And you know this is when

971
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 8: when players get hurt, other other players get an opportunity

972
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 8: to step up to play. And that's a Parker Washington

973
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 8: is done.

974
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Speaker 2: It won't be the last time this season we'll be

975
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 2: talking about the Jaguars, and when we do, we will

976
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: not call that a small market team.

977
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Speaker 3: Lead.

978
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: Made sure Ke drop Yeah, made sure Sean Baton knew that. Tom.

979
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Speaker 2: We appreciate the time. Happy holidays, Mary, Christmas. Talk to

980
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: you again soon here on Fox Sports Radio. Thanks so much,

981
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:46,600
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982
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,360
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