1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Brian Curtiz and I'm Doug Krisner. Here 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: In the latest FED Speak, Chair j Powell says that 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: the FED is focused on maintaining a strong labor market 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: for a sustained period. He highlighted efforts to get more 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: people into the workforce as part of the fed's push. 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 3: Actually, it turns out that the as an expansion gets 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: longer and longer, more and more of the wage gains 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: actually go to people at the lower end of the 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 3: wage spectrum. So these are really beneficial things to have 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 3: that though, the record is also clear that we need 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: price stability. 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 4: That's FED share Jay Powell. 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: Palell did not comment on his near term outlook for 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: interest rates. Separately, FED Governor Michelle Bowman said that multiple 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: rate hikes may be needed to get inflation down to 17 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: the fed's two percent goal, and that's even after the 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: August data showed some of the slowest price increases since 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. In the meantime, Vice Chair for Supervision Michael 20 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: Barr said that the FED is likely at or very 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: near a level of interest rates that is sufficiently restrictive. 22 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: So we mentioned a moment ago. The weakness in crude 23 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: oil WTI in New York today down two point two percent. 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: We closed eighty eight eighty two. One concern here is 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: how those higher interest rates will in turn slow the economy. 26 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: Now City Group is saying a slow down will weigh 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: heavily on oil prices next year. Here is City Groups, 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: global head of Commodities Research at Morris. 29 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 5: We don't think demand is going to come in stronger 30 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 5: than expected unless for some reason there's a change in 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 5: every economist judgment about where economic growth is going to 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 5: be next year. But the drag from China, the drag 33 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 5: from Europe, and what we expect is a drag from 34 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 5: the United States coming into the market really weighs heavily. 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: That is Ed Morris, the global head of commodities research 36 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: at City Group. Now City's latest quarterly commodities report shows 37 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: the price of Brent crewed falling to the low seventy 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: dollars a barrel range next year. Incidentally, we close today 39 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: around ninety dollars. City Group is fighting more oil supply 40 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: coming onto the market as being the main driver for 41 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: its adjustment. 42 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: Ran well a little bit more here on ai JP Morgan, 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: CEO Jamie Diamond says that artificial intelligence is already being 44 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: used by thousands of employees at his bank, and he 45 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: thinks that it's likely to make dramatic improvements in workers' 46 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: quality of life, even if it does eliminate some jobs. 47 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: Diamond spoke earlier in an exclusive interview with. 48 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 6: Bloomberg, technologies always replaced jobs. Your children live to one 49 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 6: hundred and not have cancer because of technology, and literally 50 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 6: they'll probably be working three and a half days a week. 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 6: So technology has done unbelievable things from mankind. But you know, 52 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 6: plans crash, pharmacies get misused. There are negatives. This is one. 53 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 6: The biggest negative in my view, is AI being used 54 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 6: by bad people to do bad things. You know the fact, 55 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 6: and I do think you know, eventually I have legal 56 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 6: guardrails around. It's kind of hard to do because it's new, 57 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 6: but it will add a huge value. 58 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: JP Morgan's Jamie Diamond Diamon also said that AI can 59 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: help JP Morgan developed new products and improve productivity. Data 60 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: from the consultancy firm Evidence shows JP Morgan advertised for 61 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: more than thirty five hundred AI related jobs between February 62 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: and April. 63 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: A bipartisan group of US senators is now hoping to 64 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: meet with Chinese President Chi Jinping on a visit to 65 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: China next week. The story from Bloomberg's ju Enmong In. 66 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 7: Hong Kong, Senators Mike Craple and Chuck Schumer plan to 67 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 7: raise the issue of Micron technology and its ability to 68 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 7: do business in China. Micron has been facing an ongoing 69 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 7: probe by China Cybersecurity Administration. The senators also planned to 70 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 7: meet with the US business community in Shanghai. So to say, 71 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 7: the White House is aware of the senator's plans and 72 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 7: encourage them to go. The visit comes as the US 73 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 7: seeks to smooth ties with China after months of escalating tensions. Separately, 74 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 7: the US is hoping to arrange a November meeting between 75 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 7: Presidents Biden and she at the APEX summit in San 76 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 7: Francisco and Hong Kong. Joined Wang Bloomberg Radio. 77 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: We get a monetary policy decision from the Reserve Bank 78 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: of Australia at two thirty in the afternoon Sydney time today. 79 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: More on that from Bloomberg's Paul Allen. 80 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 8: Bloomberg Economics expects the RBA to keep the cash rat 81 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 8: target on hold at four point one percent on October third. 82 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 8: It's been hiked by four hundred basis points since April 83 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 8: twenty twenty two, and that is the largest and fastest 84 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 8: tightening in the inflation targeting era. So far, it's not 85 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 8: been enough to push inflation back down to the RBA's 86 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 8: two to three percent target. Recent Hotter CPI data raises 87 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 8: the risk that Australia's Central Bank could deliver another hike, 88 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 8: potentially at its November meeting, but Bloomberg Economics sees the 89 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 8: RBA starting to cut interest rates in the first quarter 90 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 8: of next year. I'm Paul Allen Bloomberg. 91 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 4: Radio, Doug. 92 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: I've got a question for you here to start off 93 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: the show today. J Powell talking about maintaining a strong 94 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 2: labor market, is he preparing us for a slight switch 95 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: on the focus of the DA you will mandate. 96 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: That's certainly a possibility when you consider how things have 97 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 1: changed in the US labor market on the structural side 98 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: since the pandemic. I think that is one of the 99 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: conundrums that the FED has to be facing right now. 100 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: But I want to go back to the story that 101 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: we just unpacked a little bit ago. This bipartisan team 102 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: of US senators of visiting China next week. One of 103 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: the issues we are told that they will raise with 104 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: Beijing is the ability of Micron Technology to do business 105 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: in China. Micron obviously the big memory chip maker. And 106 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: I say that because the White House now has reportedly 107 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: given Beijing some fair warning on plans to update US 108 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: rules on shipping certain semiconductors to China, and basically this 109 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: is AI chips along with some semiconductor making tools. Reuter 110 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: saying these updates could come as early as October, So 111 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: I think the timing is kind of interesting. 112 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: It is interesting timing, and they're also really hoping to 113 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: help arrange a meeting between President She and President Biden. 114 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: Has Joan mentioned in. 115 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: If she goes to APEX, we still don't know. It 116 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: hasn't been confirmed. It's possible that he won't go because 117 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: of pressing concerns at home. However, that doesn't mean that 118 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: they can't still talk, can't still meet. They might be 119 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: looking to do it that way, but I think for 120 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: a lot of people, they would like to see a 121 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: President She attending those APEC meetings. As far as market 122 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: market movements go, JP Morgan and Morgan Stanley warned. 123 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: Again about US stocks today. 124 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: I'm a little curious about this because the Russell two 125 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: thousand is now negative for the year. It's down twelve 126 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: percent since the first of August, so nothing too frothy there. 127 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: The S and P equal Weight Index turned negative year 128 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: today today as well. Most of the US stock market 129 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: is not doing all that well. Valuations not particularly lofty, 130 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: and yet few strategies outside ed Yard Denny are positive. 131 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very interesting when you look at today's PMI 132 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: day to both readings and I'm speaking here of the 133 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: ism and at the same time S and P Global 134 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: both numbers coming in ahead of estimates. So the market 135 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: now is seeing maybe a thirty percent probability of a 136 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: November rate hike. Just last Friday, Brian, that probability was 137 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: only eighteen percent. 138 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very exciting. 139 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: All right. 140 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 4: Now it's time for global news hard right. 141 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: Republican Congressman Matt Gates is applying pressure on House Speaker 142 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy at Baxter has that story and other global news. 143 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 9: Ed Yeah, that's right, Briant. He is now claiming that 144 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 9: there was a side deal between McCarthy and President Joe 145 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 9: Biden about funding Ukraine. 146 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 10: It is going to be difficult for my Republican friends 147 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 10: to keep calling President Biden feeble while he continues to 148 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 10: take Speaker McCarthy's lunch money. 149 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 9: Not every negotiation now the White House, is there no 150 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 9: side deal And overall, whether there's enough pressure to force 151 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 9: McCarthy out of position as a major question, and the 152 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 9: move to AKA maybe losing steam as a matter of fact. 153 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 9: Congress From Jim Jordan, a member of the Freedom Caucus 154 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 9: exclusively on Bloomberg's balance of power today, says he supports McCarthy. 155 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 11: I know a number of people who were part of 156 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 11: that twenty back in January. I think it made statements 157 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 11: today that they do not support moving forward with the 158 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 11: motion of vacate. I think there's statements out from some 159 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 11: of my good friends and colleagues in the Freedom Caucus, 160 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 11: like Scott Harry, I think bar mc donald's, I think 161 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 11: Congressman Roy So, I think that's a good sign. 162 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 9: So Matt Gates may ultimately be standing whistling into the 163 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 9: wind when all of this is done now. Aside from 164 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 9: the loud noise over the Speakership, Bloomberg's Amory hor Duran 165 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 9: says still a lot of work to do. 166 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 12: Two big things to watch out for. One is that 167 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 12: Ukraine aid that was not included, and President Biden said 168 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 12: he hopes McCarthy takes it up quickly. McCarthy, though yesterday 169 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 12: directly linked it to the border. He said, the border 170 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 12: is my priority. And the second thing is, of course 171 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 12: they should be working on those twelve appropriation bills to 172 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 12: actually fund the federal government. But a mass of headache 173 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 12: and distraction is about to hit Capitol Hill this week, 174 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 12: and that's when as Matt Gates has vowed to have 175 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 12: a motion to vacate for the speakership. 176 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 9: Yeah. Meanwhile, the White House today is saying aid for 177 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 9: Ukraine is essential. Spoke from when Karine. Jean Pierre says 178 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 9: continued pressure. 179 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: What we know is that there's bipartisan support for this deal. 180 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 11: Again. 181 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: Speaker McCarthy was on the air multiple times yesterday saying 182 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: that he wants to He certainly wants to continue support 183 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: for Ukraine to get the weapons that they need. 184 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 9: Yanks. 185 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 11: We're going to hold him to. 186 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 9: That, Jean Pierre says, as bipartisan support for aid for 187 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 9: Ukraine and it will pass. Civil case alleging Donald Trump 188 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 9: engaged in a decade long scheme of persistent acts of 189 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 9: fraud to inflate his net worth is on trial. Attorney 190 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 9: General Letitia arm James is arguing. 191 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: No matter how powerful you are, no matter how much 192 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: money you think you may have, no one is above. 193 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 9: The law, and Donald Trump defiant. 194 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: Very simply put, it's a witch hunt. 195 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 7: It's a disgrace. 196 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: We have a corre attorney general in the state. 197 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 9: And if he loses a case, it could be a 198 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 9: divorce between him and doing business in New York, as 199 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 9: well as a two hundred and fifty million dollar fine. 200 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 9: The arguments have centered on whether there'll be a summary 201 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 9: judgment or whether Trump will be able to put up 202 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 9: any witnesses. In just a side note regarding Donald Trump, 203 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 9: some of the most damning statements reported to have been 204 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 9: made by Trump confirmed today by John Kelly, Chief of 205 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 9: Staff CNN. Kelly confirming Trump said that military people shot 206 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 9: down our POW's are losers and suckers. He's not wanting 207 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 9: to be seen with military amputees because quota doesn't look 208 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 9: good for me, and that he's not truthful on his 209 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 9: views about unborn life, women, minorities, evangelical Christians or JEWS 210 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 9: Global News fired by more than twenty seven hundred journalist 211 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 9: and analysts in over one hundred and twenty countries. In 212 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 9: San Francisco, I'm at Baxter and this is Bloomberg. 213 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. I'm Brian Curtis with Rashad Solomon. 214 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: Our guest is Loreen Gilbert, CEO of Walthwise Financial. Loreen, 215 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: is diversification more important than ever or are you looking 216 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: for some highly specific opportunities? 217 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 13: Yes, thank you. I think diversification is key. We continue 218 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 13: to see volatility in the markets. We continue to hear 219 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 13: a lot of uncertainty with the FED, and the markets 220 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 13: have been responding to that. So absolutely diversification, which means 221 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 13: a combination of equity and fixed income, but all across 222 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 13: the board. Keeping quality high. I think as we continue 223 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 13: to slow down in the economy, quality will be important. 224 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Larina. 225 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 14: When you're looking at these sovereign bonds and the treasury market, 226 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 14: I mean, how far can they fall and how high 227 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 14: can yield go in the current environment and give us 228 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 14: a sense also where on a duration you'd like to 229 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 14: be and where does it represent best value? 230 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 11: Right? 231 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 13: So we do continue to see we do continue to 232 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 13: see decline in bonds with yields going up, and so 233 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 13: what we're looking to do is continue to be a 234 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 13: little bit beyond benchmark as far as duration is concerned, 235 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 13: and then extending that direct duration as we see this 236 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 13: is the prop We don't know where the end is insight, 237 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 13: it can't tell you where that is, but it will come. 238 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 13: And we think that we're closer to the end of 239 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 13: the repricing and certainly than the beginning of that. So 240 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 13: continue to add in as we see the decline in prices. 241 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 2: So we all know the dual mandate for the FED 242 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: is stable prices and a strong labor market. Powell came 243 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: out and talked about the strong labor market today rather 244 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: than the prices side. Is that a tell? 245 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 11: Yes? 246 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 4: I think it is. 247 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 13: And I think what we're seeing is that inflation, except 248 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 13: for the stickiest parts of inflation. We're seeing inflation coming 249 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 13: down at least the areas where the FED has more 250 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 13: of an impact, and those other areas that are stickier 251 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 13: are going to take longer. And so facing you know, 252 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 13: having a focus on the labor markets, I think is 253 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 13: going to be their focus now as well as they've 254 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 13: been focusing mainly on inflation, and they're trying to get 255 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 13: this right. They're trying to slow down the economy without 256 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 13: crushing it at the same time. 257 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 14: Well, is that possible? They have to cause some damage 258 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 14: in order to get inflation tamed entirely, surely. 259 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 13: I agree, And that's why I think that ultimately we 260 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 13: know the next recession will come. We just don't know 261 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 13: when it will come. But certainly there's going to be 262 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 13: a slowing down of the economy. And the idea of 263 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 13: a soft landing is I think. You know, a lot 264 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 13: of people are saying, yes, we're there, But what I'm 265 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 13: saying is, ultimately we're going to have a recession. If 266 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 13: we end up with a salt landing for now, that's 267 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 13: just pushing out the reality of a recession that will 268 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 13: hit us later. So one way or another, the economy 269 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 13: will get to a point, we will get to a 270 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 13: breaking point and we will have a recession. 271 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: Well, you've got Atlanta fed GDP now up around four 272 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: point eight to four point nine percent, and you have 273 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: companies h and analysts still raising earnings projections. 274 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: So I wonder when is that? 275 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: When is the doom coming? 276 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 13: Yeah? And I think right right right, And I think 277 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 13: that when we look at Q three, I think we're 278 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 13: we're probably coming out of an earnings recession, expectation of 279 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 13: flat flat to a little bit above flat on your 280 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 13: over year earning, so you know we're seeing a positive movement. 281 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 13: And I think we're also in Q three coming off 282 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 13: of lower baseline effects that will help the earnings in 283 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 13: Q three as well, and we'll know that that ultimately 284 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 13: will move from market. 285 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, your morning brief on this 286 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: story's making news from Hong Kong to Singapore and Wall Street. 287 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every day, on Apple, Spotify, 288 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 289 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each day on Bloomberg eleven 290 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: three to zero in New York, Bloomberg ninety nine to 291 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: one in Washington, Bloomberg one oh six to one in Boston, 292 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: and Bloomberg nine sixty in San Francisco. 293 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 294 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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