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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to the Thursday edition of the Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis end Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you being here.

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Speaker 1: With us from all fifty states and from all over

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Speaker 1: the world.

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Speaker 2: Very cool.

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Speaker 1: How many of you tune in, and we are grateful

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Speaker 1: for each and every one of you. Now, Clay, we

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Speaker 1: got the National Prayer Breakfast. Trump speaking about a whole

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Speaker 1: They've talked about the situation in Minneapolis, the charging of

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Speaker 1: nine individuals, the Department of Education issuing new guidance to

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Speaker 1: protect the rights of prayer in public schools.

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Speaker 2: Trump spoke of.

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Speaker 1: That, more updates on the immigration ice Minneapolis situation as well.

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Speaker 1: Trump sat down with Tom Lamas of NBC News for

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Speaker 1: an interview. Again, a whole range of subjects touched on. There,

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Speaker 1: a lot on Minneapolis and Trump's deployment of National Guard,

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Speaker 1: and the security situation in various city that voter id

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Speaker 1: question Clay, and the bill that Republicans would like to

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Speaker 1: get passed here to create more secure elections. No surprise,

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Speaker 1: Democrats are out on that. So we have a lot

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Speaker 1: of policy and news from the policy world and from

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Speaker 1: the Trump Administration's latest to dive into but we will

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Speaker 1: start with this really just heartbreaking situation of Savannah Guthrie,

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Speaker 1: a well known TV news broadcaster whose mother has been

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Speaker 1: abducted and we don't know much more in terms of details.

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Speaker 1: She released a video trying to trying to get to

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Speaker 1: essentially the captor or captors, as well as of course

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Speaker 1: informing the public about what's happening here. I want you

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Speaker 1: to listen. This is Savannah Guthrie released this out on

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Speaker 1: social media and it has been on everyone's feed and

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Speaker 1: on everyone's mind.

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Speaker 2: Who's in the news cycle here in the last twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours play twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Our mom is our heart and our home. She is

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Speaker 3: eighty four years old. Her health, her heart is specual.

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Speaker 3: She lives in constant pain. She is without any medicine.

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Speaker 4: She needs it to survive, but she needs it not

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Speaker 4: to suffer. We too have heard the reports about a ransom.

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Speaker 5: Letter in the media.

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Speaker 4: As a family, we are doing everything that we can.

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Speaker 4: We are ready to talk. However, we live in a

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Speaker 4: world where voices and images are easily manipulated. We need

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Speaker 4: to know without a doubt that she is alive.

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Speaker 5: And that you have her.

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Speaker 4: We want to hear from you, and we are ready

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Speaker 4: to listen, please reach out to us.

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Speaker 1: Play as worse nightmare situation for people to have a

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Speaker 1: loved one, to have a family were kidnapped, and it

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Speaker 1: seems kidnapped violently and have so little to go on

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Speaker 1: at this point, we know very very few facts about

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Speaker 1: the situation other than she's gone, she was taken, and

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Speaker 1: obviously the Trump administration is very engaged. In fact, FBI

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Speaker 1: Director Cash Bettel has gone down to Arizona to oversee

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Speaker 1: efforts to find Savannah Guthrie's mother. Trump has said personally

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Speaker 1: that all available and necessary resources from the federal government

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Speaker 1: will be devoted to finding her. And now the country

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Speaker 1: is waiting and hoping.

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Speaker 6: It feels to me, and we'll open up phone lines

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Speaker 6: on this, by the way, because a ton of you

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Speaker 6: have strong thoughts. Eight hundred and two two two eight

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Speaker 6: the course of the show that we will go to

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Speaker 6: if we get any additional updates. It feels like this

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Speaker 6: has to be some form of an inside to me

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Speaker 6: and let me explain why, and I could end up

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Speaker 6: being totally wrong, and we probably have because we have

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Speaker 6: experts in every field listening to this show.

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Speaker 2: Right now.

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Speaker 6: We probably have people who have worked kidnapping cases that

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Speaker 6: are listening to us right now.

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Speaker 2: This. So let me start with this.

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Speaker 6: Savannah Guthrie to me, is not Elon Musk's mom. She

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Speaker 6: is not so famous, and Savannah Guthrie is not so

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Speaker 6: wealthy that I think random people who had no knowledge

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Speaker 6: By which I mean, this feels like someone knows her,

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Speaker 6: knows her movements. It feels connected. It doesn't feel like

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Speaker 6: a random act of violence where somebody sees a famous

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Speaker 6: Probably the most famous fuck, I would imagine you may disagree,

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Speaker 6: but probably the most famous abduction in him history is

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Speaker 6: the Lindbergh baby. Right of the entire history of the

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Speaker 6: famous abduction than that that was directly connected to Charles Lindbergh,

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Speaker 6: is famous too, but I don't think it was famous

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Speaker 6: on the same level as what happened with Lindbergh. You know,

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Speaker 6: back in the day in the thirties, in the twenties

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Speaker 6: that was about He was as famous of a person

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Speaker 6: as there was in the United States. Okay, so if

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Speaker 6: you operate from that premise. Also, based on everything that

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Speaker 6: that is tangible of the abduction taking place.

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Speaker 2: And let me dive.

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Speaker 6: Into this with you, Buck for a minute, because that

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Speaker 6: stands out to me as well. It feels to me

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Speaker 6: like that is someone who is knowledgeable of the home

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Speaker 6: because there are cameras, shid Nancy Guthrie lived in a

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Speaker 6: million dollar house. It's not only the home in which

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Speaker 6: you live. Fuck my entire neighborhood. Everybody has ring cameras.

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Speaker 6: So even if my ring camera were down, then there

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Speaker 6: they would say, hey, you know, we don't know exactly

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Speaker 6: what time something happened. But if you have footage of

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Speaker 6: five hours ago or twenty hours ago, or whatever the

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Speaker 6: heck it is, there would be some strong evidence of this.

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Speaker 6: It feels like this was targeted. People were knowledgeable of

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Speaker 6: the home. This is my analysis. In order to do

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Speaker 6: this and not leave a lot of evidence behind their

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Speaker 6: cameras everywhere, I think it would be hard to abduct anyone.

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Speaker 6: And they're not be tangible evidence of it right now,

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Speaker 6: but at least so far, they're saying they don't have

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Speaker 6: tangible evidence. A ransom note was sent to a local

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Speaker 6: news of affiliate in the Arizona area as well as

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Speaker 6: TMZ says they got a ransom note, and people say, Okay,

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Speaker 6: how do you know it's accurate. Supposedly, the ransom note

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Speaker 6: included details about the scene inside the home that gave

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Speaker 6: clear indications that we knew who was involved. So Buck,

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Speaker 6: this is my analysis. I think it has to be

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Speaker 6: someone that is connected to Nancy Guthrie, someone who knows

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Speaker 6: something about her life. No, maybe knows Savannah Guthrie because

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Speaker 6: she knows Nancy Guthrie. Because this woman is not standalone

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Speaker 6: famous on her own, where I would expect that someone

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Speaker 6: you worked in the CIA or is that? Is that

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Speaker 6: totally crazy from my perspective.

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Speaker 1: No, I think that that all squares absolutely, that that

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Speaker 1: makes sense to me. And you know, one thing that

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Speaker 1: I do think about with this is when was the

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Speaker 1: last time you heard about a kidnapping with ransom in America?

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Speaker 1: This is very common in other countries actually, unfortunately, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: it depends on where in the world you're talking about,

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Speaker 1: but uh, there have been there were periods of time

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Speaker 1: a while it was very common people being kidnapped for ransom.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so there are some places where this happens

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Speaker 1: in this country. And there used to be movies about this.

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Speaker 1: Remember the what was it? Was it Ransom? I think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, where.

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Speaker 1: He said he went on and said, I'll basically give

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Speaker 2: And that was the you know, the big move in

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Speaker 1: Uh, you can't really think that you're going to be

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Speaker 2: Taken to Mexico. Uh, that's that's possible.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're getting on an international flight and

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Speaker 1: going anywhere. And why this I think matters is if

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Speaker 1: someone is going to have a ransom note for money,

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Speaker 1: even after they get their money. Let's say they do

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Speaker 2: Doesn't add up. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: To you, I agree with you. I think there's someone

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Speaker 1: I think it's because it's very it'd be very hard

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Speaker 1: maybe somebody made that calculation and they think they'll be

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Speaker 6: I agree, And so we will be following this again.

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Speaker 6: There's a press conference coming in a little while, and

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Speaker 6: again some of you out there, We've got a couple

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Speaker 6: you out there may again be experts in having dealt

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Speaker 2: We're fortunate because this.

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Speaker 6: Doesn't happen very often in the United States where someone

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Speaker 6: but it is common, like I know in Latin America,

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Speaker 6: the time because there is extreme wealth that the ballplayers make.

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Speaker 6: They spend time in Venezuela, they spend time in some

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Speaker 6: and there is that sort of perpetual terror when it

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Speaker 6: comes to kidnapping that it might happen and there might

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Speaker 6: be a payment that goes on. I wonder too, Buck,

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Speaker 6: you were talking about staying in the US Arizona. Is

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Speaker 6: there a possibility they went south of the border and

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Speaker 6: only got into Mexico to try to hold her there.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the things that I would wonder about.

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Speaker 6: But yes, like the way you communicate now is so trackable,

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Speaker 6: it seems very very hard for a ransom process to

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Speaker 6: and how it's being communicated.

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Speaker 1: I think it'd be also a very hard thing to

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Speaker 1: and then go over the border to Mexico and with

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Speaker 1: very sophisticated networks of intelligence collection themselves on the board.

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Speaker 8: What's going on with Kamala HQ.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm so glad you asked. I have good news.

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Speaker 9: So Kamala HQ is turning into headquarters and it's where

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, So Kamala did this Buck and I immediately

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Speaker 6: For those of you who remember, it was called Wolf.

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Speaker 6: All right, so everything goes off all at once. When

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Speaker 1: I don't even I can't even I'm not selling any

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Speaker 1: From the beginning, I've nailed that she will eventually she

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Speaker 1: I think Buck Island the lave, the waves are lapping

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Speaker 1: not even gonna run, and now I'm feeling like because

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Speaker 1: people forget Clay. She was so awful and lost so badly.

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Speaker 1: The fact that the Democrats are even considering, like thinking

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Speaker 1: about putting her up again is complete madness. But they're lunatics, So.

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Speaker 6: Think about this all right, Let me make let me

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Speaker 6: pretend that I am advising Kamala Harris, which probably means

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Speaker 6: that I'm smarter than anybody that is actually advising Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 6: She lays low, She does these stupid things like hey,

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Speaker 6: we're gonna have HQ sixty seven or whatever the heck

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Speaker 6: this thing is called. But she relies on one inescapable fact.

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Speaker 6: What I would tell her is pour all of your

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Speaker 6: attention behind the scenes into making sure that a southern

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Speaker 6: state is the first primary state. Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee.

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Speaker 6: There's a bunch. There's twelve states, I believe right now

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Speaker 6: competing to become the first primary state in twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty eight. All right, and you say, Okay, Clay,

456
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Speaker 6: why does that matter? Everybody has forgotten because he didn't

457
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Speaker 6: end up getting actually challenged. Biden changed the entire order

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Speaker 6: of the primary in twenty twenty four to put South

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Speaker 6: Carolina first because people in Iowa and New Hampshire never

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Speaker 6: were impressed by Joe Biden. Kamala is not going to

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Speaker 6: do well in Iowa or New Hampshire because she has

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Speaker 6: to be natural. She has to walk into a diner,

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Speaker 6: she has to eat a hot dog, at the Iowa

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Speaker 6: State Fair. She has to do all these things that

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Speaker 6: are normal that she's completely unable to do because she's

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Speaker 6: not normal. She's the joker, you know, she's cackling all

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Speaker 6: the time, walking around in a purple pantsuit. But if

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Speaker 6: southern states vote first, black voters are going to show

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Speaker 6: up in huge numbers for Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe that. Okay, I don't believe that. I

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Speaker 2: don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I don't you know what I will say for the

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Speaker 1: black Democrat primary voter. They want to vote for a winner.

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Speaker 1: They want to vote for somebody that they think will

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Speaker 1: both win the primary and win the general election. I

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Speaker 1: don't think anybody who's going to show up for a

477
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Speaker 1: primary after what happened this last time around. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm not putting a steak. I'm not putting

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Speaker 1: a steak on this. We'll just put this steak in there,

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Speaker 1: all right. Clay might already win this with Kamal running,

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Speaker 1: because it's looking more like she's running, but not determined yet. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's not the termine yet, but we'll just put that

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Speaker 1: out there. Clay is saying Kamala will be the nominee.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm not making any bet on this

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Speaker 1: that is insane, no way, totally disagree.

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Speaker 2: Will not be Kamala as the nominee. I'm not buying it. Okay.

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Speaker 6: I think black women are not leaving her, and I

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Speaker 6: haven't seen yet another black candidate who could like actually

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Speaker 6: manage to take away her black support. So right now,

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Speaker 6: if there were a primary in South Carolina or Georgia

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Speaker 6: or Tennessee for the Democrat Party, she would win big.

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Speaker 6: So if I were advising her, I would say, you

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Speaker 6: need to argue Kamala that it would be racist to

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Speaker 6: let white voters in Iowa and New Hampshire, which is

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Speaker 6: the argument really that Joe Biden made. Really it was

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Speaker 6: nobody ever liked Biden in those states to not have

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Speaker 6: a diverse electorate select the nominee. And if there is

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Speaker 6: a black focused southern state strategy, Kamala is going to

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Speaker 6: be the nominee.

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Speaker 2: She's going to be the nominee.

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Speaker 1: What about Kamala losing every swing state, every swing state

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Speaker 1: in the last election speaks to you with people are

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Speaker 1: going to try to give her a second shot at

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Speaker 1: this one. I don't think it's possible for her to

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Speaker 1: have whiffed more bigly than she did.

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Speaker 6: I'll give you, I'll give you the answer. This is

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Speaker 6: what I would tell Kamala to say. Donald Trump is

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Speaker 6: a uniquely talented Republican politician who produced voters that will

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Speaker 6: not show up for JD. Vance or Marco Rubio, and

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Speaker 6: I would beat those guys. Trump Biden was a disaster.

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Speaker 6: I think she'll say now Biden was a disaster. But

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Speaker 6: now she'll be able to say, whether we believe it

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Speaker 6: or not, Trump was a disaster. People are ready to

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Speaker 6: turn the page and all these banal bane or whatever

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Speaker 6: you want to say phrases that Kamala trots out. Trump

516
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Speaker 6: is a uniquely talented politician and I only lost by

517
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Speaker 6: two hundred and twenty thousand votes. I will kick JD

518
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Speaker 6: Vance's ass. He doesn't have the charisma or panache of

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump, and those voters are not showing up for him.

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Speaker 1: So here's why I think I think that you're wrong.

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Speaker 1: This would mean that the Democrats, after after the most absurd,

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Speaker 1: obscene political blunder of our lifetime, which was trying till

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Speaker 1: the very last minute. Technically, you know, I should have

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Speaker 1: just said that Biden would run, which is what you've

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Speaker 1: said with Kamalin's that I said that he would be

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Speaker 1: the nominee, which he was until the eleventh hour, and

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Speaker 1: they couldn't pull the con off anymore. They basically handed

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Speaker 1: the Republicans this last election with their stupidity. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: have to take anything away from Trump, but what they

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Speaker 1: did and putting Biden forward, the debate disaster, the whole

531
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Speaker 1: thing was an absolute catastrophe. Kamala was a part of

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Speaker 1: that catastrophe, inextricably linked to and carried the bird of

533
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Speaker 1: in the end of it, that catastrophe. To run her

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Speaker 1: again as their nominee, I will put this stake in

535
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Speaker 1: the ground, would be political malpractice for Democrats on the

536
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Speaker 1: same scale as trying to run Biden for a re

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Speaker 1: election given his clear dementia. Like it is unfathomably dumb

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Speaker 1: for them to do this. I agree with all that,

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Speaker 1: and you so you think they're going to do the

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Speaker 1: dumbest thing we've ever seen in politics two elections in

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Speaker 1: a row.

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Speaker 6: What I would say in response to all of that is,

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Speaker 6: even with a calamitous, incredibly mal adjusted campaign, they came

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Speaker 6: within two hundred and twenty thousand votes of beating Trump.

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Speaker 2: I think that they.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, but it's the case that every other

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Speaker 1: candidate for the Democrats could make Clay is. That's just

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Speaker 1: what's baked in. It's that last two hundred Look at

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Speaker 1: the recent elections. It's that last two hundred thousand. Look

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Speaker 1: at how close it was in twenty twenty. It's always

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Speaker 1: about the last two hundred thousand. It's always about the

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Speaker 1: swings dates. Of course, a Wes Moore or a Gavin

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Speaker 1: Newsom or a whoever else you think is going to

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Speaker 1: be able to win all the states that Kamala did.

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Speaker 1: All that matters is the three hundred thousand or so

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Speaker 1: votes that are up for grabs or that differentiate in

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Speaker 1: those swings.

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Speaker 6: I think, I think what she will say, and I

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Speaker 6: think this is going to be the huge Democratic high

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Speaker 6: I think that the argument is going to be out there,

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Speaker 6: and I think it may well be true, and it's

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Speaker 6: something to think about. Trump motivates voters that jd Vance

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Speaker 6: is not going to motivate. I don't think that Trump says, hey,

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Speaker 6: go vote for Jade Vance. Look at every time Trump's

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Speaker 6: not on the ballot, the overall Republican Party fails to

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Speaker 6: turn out the game.

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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 1: Kamala motivates any voters. I don't think Kamala motivates any

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Speaker 1: voters that any other Democrat would not also motivate. And

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Speaker 1: I actually think that Kamala will do very poorly with

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Speaker 1: working class white voters, who in the swing states will

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Speaker 1: be the single most important demographic that would be up

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00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: for grabs if you don't have a Trump.

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Speaker 6: I hope that this is right, but I'm telling you

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Speaker 6: this is what I think they're telling Kamala behind closed doors,

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Speaker 6: if they have anybody smart enough to actually be making

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Speaker 6: these argument.

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Speaker 1: This isn't as crazy as your Michelle Obama is going

579
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Speaker 1: to be the secret stealth nominee take which I have

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Speaker 1: to remind everyone of that. That was Clay for a

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Speaker 1: long time, and I told him he was crazy. We

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Speaker 1: didn't put a bet on that one. We didn't put

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Speaker 1: a steak bet on that when we should have because

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Speaker 1: I said, Clay, you're insane, and it was insane. And

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Speaker 1: now we all know Michelle Obama is a deeply unlikable

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Speaker 1: political candidate. So that was all just kind of boomer talk.

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Speaker 6: Well, I thought that they needed a black candidate because

588
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 6: they would recognize that Kamala was awful, and it would

589
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Speaker 6: be racist and sexist if they didn't have a black

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Speaker 6: woman to replace her. And the only black woman I

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Speaker 6: could think of to replace her was Michelle Obama, who

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Speaker 6: was popular enough to potentially win well.

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Speaker 2: But that was that, that was the logic behind.

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Speaker 1: That was the logic, But it was there was I

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Speaker 1: think that was fantasy land stuff, Clay. I think this

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Speaker 1: take of Kamala as the nominee is almost as crazy

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Speaker 1: as Michelle Obama parachuting in to be the nominee for

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Speaker 1: that like this is this is by the way, the

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Speaker 1: numbers don't disagree with you. I think right now she is,

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Speaker 1: by the betting markets, supposed to be the candidate. Gavin

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Speaker 1: is a substantial favorite over com Gavin Newsom is Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm putting I'm I'm on that one.

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Speaker 2: I'm on that. It's gonna be Newsom is gonna wipe.

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Speaker 1: The floor with Kamala, wipe the I can't believe I'm

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Speaker 1: saying this. I sound like I'm evil. Keanu Reeves biggest

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Speaker 1: fan over here. He's just gonna button down that shirt

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Speaker 1: and look at all the ladies of America in the

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Speaker 1: eyes and say, hey, I'm here.

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Speaker 2: For you.

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Speaker 1: I think Gavin Newsom's gonna crush Kamala Harris. I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be an if, which is the only reason

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Speaker 1: I thought maybe, or one of the reasons I thought

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Speaker 1: that she might just realize is not a good idea

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Speaker 1: for her long term.

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Speaker 6: But what if she goes full Trump and says I

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Speaker 6: don't need to debate. People know me already and just

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Speaker 6: sits out the actual debates.

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Speaker 1: She tried to do that with Trump and then couldn't

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Speaker 1: because the pressure became too much. I don't think she

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Speaker 1: could do that. I don't think she can.

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Speaker 2: I think it's interesting, but yeah, okay, you could.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be Newsome, all right, I put my flag down.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be Newsome. You say it's going to be Kamala.

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Speaker 1: I might have to get your stake when Kamala runs,

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Speaker 1: because again I made an emotional and emotional bet on

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Speaker 1: that one because Kama was so horrible.

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Speaker 2: But we'll see.

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Speaker 7: Spend time with Clay and find them on the free

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Speaker 6: Welcome in hour number three, Thursday edition of the program.

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Speaker 6: all over the country in all fifty states. Reminder Monday,

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Speaker 6: beginning Monday at noon eastern nine am on the West Coast.

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Speaker 6: I am on the West Coast right now. I've been

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Speaker 6: in California all week and this morning I got out.

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Speaker 6: We're by the way, going to get an update on

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Speaker 6: this Nancy Guthrie story in a bit. But for those

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Speaker 6: of you out there that we're wondering or have been

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Speaker 6: following this, and it is the number one story on

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Speaker 6: every newscast. No suspects, blood on the porch confirmed hers.

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Speaker 6: They believe she is still alive, and there have been

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Speaker 6: they think multiple ransom notes sent to a local affiliate

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Speaker 6: station in the Arizona marketplace and also one two TMZ.

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Speaker 6: They believe those ransom notes are in some way authentic

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Speaker 6: because they described the scene of the kidnapping in a

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Speaker 6: way that only the people who were involved in the

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Speaker 6: kidnapping might be aware of. So we will continue to

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Speaker 6: update you on that. We're going to have a call

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Speaker 6: in as soon as that press conference ends in the

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Speaker 6: near future. I wanted to mention this. I feel fortunately

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Speaker 6: I get to travel all over the country. We have

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Speaker 6: great affiliate stations. I'm in our San Francisco iHeart studios

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Speaker 6: right now. I walked from my hotel this morning in

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Speaker 6: San Francisco to the studio here and they actually told me, hey,

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Speaker 6: you probably don't want to walk. And I thought when

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Speaker 6: I was told that, what an incredible indictment it is

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Speaker 6: for any city for you to be staying in a

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Speaker 6: gonna want to walk.

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Speaker 2: Now, I understand if I had.

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Speaker 6: To walk across an interstate or if it was unsafe

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Speaker 2: That wasn't the case here.

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Speaker 6: For those of you who have been to San Francisco before,

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Speaker 6: it's a very walkable city. It's not a very substantial

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Speaker 6: size geographic, geographically of a city. It's a beautiful place,

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Speaker 6: one of I would argue, the most beautiful cities, natural

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Speaker 6: beauty that exist anywhere in the United States, and indeed

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Speaker 6: really anywhere around the world. And they said, hey, you

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Speaker 6: probably don't want to walk from your hotel. And one

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Speaker 6: of the guys we have out here, my buddy Dan Dakich,

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Speaker 6: who does a show for us at OutKick. We've got

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Speaker 6: a bunch of people out here for the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 6: which is taking place in Santa Clara and not San Francisco,

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Speaker 6: for those of you care. And Dan said he and

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Speaker 6: his wife they got in the previous night at ten

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Speaker 6: pm and they didn't feel safe going into our hotel.

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Speaker 6: Now we're right in the center of San Francisco, and

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Speaker 6: he said it looked like a third world country on

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Speaker 6: the streets with all of the homeless people and the

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Speaker 6: way that people.

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Speaker 2: Were behaving on the street this morning.

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Speaker 6: I'm up early, woke up at six am on the

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Speaker 6: West Coast, doing all my prep, go get a coffee,

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Speaker 6: and I like to walk. I like to walk in

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Speaker 6: the cities that i'm visiting to get a little bit

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Speaker 6: better sense for what they're like. Probably a lot of

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Speaker 6: you who travel know what I'm talking about. You get

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Speaker 6: into a car, you move fast. It's hard to really

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Speaker 6: get a sense for what a city's like. You walk

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Speaker 6: So I had about a mile and a half walk

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Speaker 6: this morning from my hotel right in the center Market Street,

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Speaker 6: right downtown San Francisco, down Producer Alley. You can figure

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Speaker 6: out exactly what air we're in. You can text me.

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Speaker 6: I'm not an expert on the different neighborhoods of San Francisco,

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Speaker 6: but about a mile and a half, I think.

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Speaker 2: I walked towards the water, towards the.

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Speaker 6: Bay, towards Alcatraz, where I could potentially swim spectacularly as

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Speaker 6: needed if I weren't going to be eaten.

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Speaker 2: By a shark.

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Speaker 6: And I passed eight different abandoned needles on my walk.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what city you guys live in. I

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Speaker 6: don't see needles on the street very often anywhere that

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Speaker 6: I visit. And I go all over the place, eight

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Speaker 6: different abandoned needles, four different human feces, related deposits in

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Speaker 6: my walk from a hotel right in the center of

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Speaker 6: downtown San Francisco to the iHeart Studios in San Francisco.

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Speaker 6: And when I saw the first needle, I couldn't leave it.

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Speaker 6: You kind of feel sick, You're eerie. You think, hey, man,

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Speaker 6: you know, gosh, if you got a two year old

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Speaker 6: or you've got a kid that's walking around on the streets,

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Speaker 6: you know, if you know and have done that, kids

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Speaker 6: will reach over and pick up anything. I couldn't believe

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Speaker 6: when I saw the first needle. I saw eight different

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Speaker 6: abandoned needles in the center of San Francisco on my walk,

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Speaker 6: and then I saw human feces four different times. You say, well,

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Speaker 6: maybe it was a Now I was not a dog,

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Speaker 6: and I thought to myself, what are we doing? I

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Speaker 6: passed multiple clearly strung out people on the streets who

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Speaker 6: were out of their mind. At eight fifteen in the morning.

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Speaker 6: We're not talking about midnight. We're not talking about middle

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Speaker 6: of the night. Eight fifteen in the morning. P people

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Speaker 6: wandering around, clearly strung out, out of their minds, and

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Speaker 6: all of this is happening when the Super Bowl is

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Speaker 6: in town. And if you remember before, I think it

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Speaker 6: was San Francisco that Gavin Newsom cleaned up when China

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Speaker 6: came to visit because he wanted the city to look better.

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Speaker 6: So this may be a cleaned up version of San

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Speaker 6: Francisco that I am seeing. And they said, don't walk,

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Speaker 6: you probably need to take a car. I walked, and

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Speaker 6: I saw eight needles and four human dumps, and I

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Speaker 6: thought to myself, what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Tons of strung out people.

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Speaker 6: How has a city as wealthy as San Francisco, as

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Speaker 6: beautiful as San Francisco, descended into feces and needles everywhere

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Speaker 6: and people are just out and they just deal with it.

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Speaker 6: I also passed joggers, and I'm thinking myself, you're in

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Speaker 6: tennis hues. I would be nervous that I would step

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Speaker 6: on a needle. Can you imagine stepping on a freaking

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Speaker 6: needle in the middle of a city and being terrified

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Speaker 6: about what you might have gotten exposed to. How have

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Speaker 6: we come to accept filth as a standard cost of

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Speaker 6: living in an American city. That's what I was thinking

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Speaker 6: as I was walking and looking at my surrounding. And

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Speaker 6: I've talked about this before. Washington DC is infinitely better

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Speaker 6: now with President Trump having cleaned it up. But you

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Speaker 6: can go back, I tweeted during the Biden administration. I

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Speaker 6: went to Washington, DC, a city that I know very

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Speaker 6: well because I lived there for four years in college,

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Speaker 6: and there were just homeless encampments all over the city,

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Speaker 6: parks that had just been taken over, and people were

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Speaker 6: putting tents up and just living there. Filth is a choice,

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Speaker 6: and you can say, and I think it's fair, well, Clay,

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Speaker 6: there are more serious things to worry about. We're concerned

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Speaker 6: about murder, We're concerned about robberies, We're concerned about carjackings.

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Speaker 6: I would submit to you, I guarantee to you that

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Speaker 6: the level of violent crime is directly correlated with the

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Speaker 6: level of filth on the streets. I guarantee you that's

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Speaker 6: the case. So that was my walk this morning. Now

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Speaker 6: we are joined by Lyndon Blake. I know Lyndon well

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Speaker 6: she works at the Daily Wire.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 6: She has worked off and on without kick a variety

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Speaker 6: of different places. She does good work, and she has

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Speaker 6: been monitoring the press conference for all of us that's

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Speaker 6: just been taking place in Arizona for the absolute latest

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Speaker 6: as it relates to Nancy Guthrie. I want to get

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Speaker 6: that update for all of you because it is something

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Speaker 6: that many people are following very closely. Okay, Lyndon what

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Speaker 6: I saw from the press conference, No suspect, fifty thousand

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Speaker 6: dollars reward. Blood on the porch, that is there was

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Speaker 6: Nancy Guthries, and they believe she is alive. Those are

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Speaker 6: the three major takeaways that I jotted down from this

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Speaker 6: press conference that just happened. Is all that accurate so

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Speaker 6: far as you could hear? And what else should we

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Speaker 6: know about what was revealed in the last thirty minutes

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Speaker 6: or so in that press conference?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you took good notes, Clay. Everything you said there

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Speaker 10: was correct. My biggest takeaway from this press conference. Again,

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Speaker 10: so much information is still being held close to the

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Speaker 10: chest of these investigators, but the big story has been

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Speaker 10: the ransom notes. Since Savannah Guthrie and her two siblings

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Speaker 10: addressed the ransom notes head on in a video last night,

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Speaker 10: talking directly to the people who may have their mother,

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Speaker 10: I mean held hostage at this point, and I wanted

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Speaker 10: to talk about the deadlines that were revealed from the

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Speaker 10: ransom notes. In this press conference, the FBI revealed that

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Speaker 10: the ransom notes that went to the media outlets, there

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Speaker 10: were two local stations in Arizona, KOLD and KGUN plus

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Speaker 10: PMZ all received the same ransom note. That's new information.

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Speaker 10: We could have assumed they were the same, but now

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Speaker 10: we know that all three got the same ransom notes

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Speaker 10: that demanded millions of dollars in bitcoin with a deadline

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Speaker 10: of five pm today. The extended deadline for payment is Monday.

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Speaker 10: And this didn't come from the press conference, but kgU

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Speaker 10: Win said in the ransom note that if payment wasn't

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Speaker 10: received by Monday, that second deadline, there are words in

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Speaker 10: there that threatened to kill Nancy. So that's why they're

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Speaker 10: taking this ransom note so seriously. And there were also

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Speaker 10: two pieces of information in that ransom note. And you

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Speaker 10: can look at this information and say, maybe anyone could

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Speaker 10: know this, but they mentioned Nancy's Apple watch and a

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Speaker 10: floodlight at our house that was something off about it,

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Speaker 10: and those are the two things that you have to

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Speaker 10: imagine struck the family as alarming. They that were factuable

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Speaker 10: that made them warrant a response to address the person

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Speaker 10: that wrote this ransom note. Assuming this is all legitimate.

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Speaker 10: The legitimacy has not been confirmed. They're not saying yes,

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Speaker 10: the person that wrote this ransom note has Nancy Guthrie.

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Speaker 10: What they are saying is they're alarming things and they're

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Speaker 10: taking the notes seriously.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 6: One of the things that thank you for all that

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Speaker 6: information we're talking to Lyndon Blake. One of the things

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Speaker 6: that stands out to me that I just find kind

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Speaker 6: of unbelievable, and I talked about it in the first

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Speaker 6: hour of the show. I think is in my neighborhood,

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Speaker 6: every single house has a camera on it, meaning a

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Speaker 6: ring camera of some sort. So if a car drives by,

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Speaker 6: maybe my camera is not working, which is I think

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Speaker 6: one of the reports that's out there, But there would

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Speaker 6: be a lot of people in the neighborhood whose cameras

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Speaker 6: would be working to have no suspects. It sounds strange

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Speaker 6: to me because I would think there would be a

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Speaker 6: lot of video of presumably whoever got her had to

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Speaker 6: come in in a vehicle, right, She's not able to

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Speaker 6: be that mobile, so they had to come in on

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Speaker 6: a vehicle. I would think there would be lots of

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Speaker 6: evidence in the neighborhood of cars that have been driving by.

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Speaker 6: Has there any discussion about that not? I get that

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Speaker 6: her individual camera may not be working, but what about

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Speaker 6: the neighborhood is at large?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so the neighborhood, the way it's set up, houses

875
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Speaker 10: are very far away from each other, and there's no

876
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Speaker 10: street lights at all on this street, so they act

877
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Speaker 10: like and there's a lot of foliage and stuff, you know,

878
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 10: think like cacti and whatever that are blocking the houses

879
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Speaker 10: from the street. So they're still saying they're processing. They

880
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 10: said they've been going up and asking for that. But

881
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Speaker 10: at this point, that is a weird point. That's a

882
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 10: question I have. How do we not have I don't

883
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Speaker 10: care if it's the most grainy nighttime image of any

884
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Speaker 10: vehicle that may have gone through that area sometime after

885
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 10: now we know one forty seven am Sunday morning, that's

886
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 10: a good question. The foot the camera footage is just

887
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Speaker 10: the big question mark and the only thing I can

888
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Speaker 10: think of if they do know more about that and

889
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Speaker 10: they're telling us is they're really just focusing in on

890
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Speaker 10: their further along than what they're leading on, even though

891
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Speaker 10: again they say no suspect, no person of interest in

892
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Speaker 10: trying to follow up on something in that camera footage

893
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Speaker 10: that would just that would damage the investigation at this point.

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Speaker 6: Okay, couple of questions here, additional for you, and I'm

895
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 6: going to ask them both and you can kind of

896
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Speaker 6: unpack them. Savannah Guthrie and her siblings asked for proof

897
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Speaker 6: of life. There is a discussion that they believe she

898
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Speaker 6: is alive.

899
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Speaker 2: Do we know?

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Speaker 6: First question? Do we know why they believe she's alive?

901
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 6: Second question? Have they said what amount of money is

902
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Speaker 6: being demanded? Do we have any idea? Bitcoin obviously is

903
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Speaker 6: harder to trace, but do we have any idea what

904
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Speaker 6: dollar amount they are saying, Hey, you've got to give

905
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Speaker 6: us this in order to get her back.

906
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Speaker 10: Yeah, there's no indication of how much money just besides

907
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Speaker 10: the millions of a bitcoin. And what was the question

908
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Speaker 10: you asked before.

909
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Speaker 6: That about why do they believe she's alive? Is there

910
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Speaker 6: any suggestion that they've actually seen proof.

911
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Speaker 2: Of life yet?

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Speaker 10: No? No, they say that they have no reason to

913
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Speaker 10: believe that she's not alive is their thing, So they're

914
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Speaker 10: acting as if she's alive, but there's been nothing. But

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Speaker 10: I thought one part in the video that was interesting

916
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Speaker 10: when they directly savannoned her siblings address the AI of

917
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Speaker 10: it all and said that images and videos can be

918
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Speaker 10: manipulated and that they demand, without a shadow of a doubt,

919
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Speaker 10: proof of life. So it makes you think, has the

920
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Speaker 10: FBI has someone received these fake images that they're not releasing,

921
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Speaker 10: But no, they say that on record they have no

922
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Speaker 10: reason to believe that she's not alive. One other things

923
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Speaker 10: that I do want a point out, since we were

924
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Speaker 10: talking about the neighborhood and that situation with the camera

925
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Speaker 10: footage and stuff, multiple outlets have reported over now the

926
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Speaker 10: last five days that there were signs of forced entry.

927
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Speaker 10: Today in the press conference, Sheriff Chris Nanos said that

928
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Speaker 10: he's not gonna say there were signs of forced entry,

929
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Speaker 10: and I thought that was interesting how he said he

930
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Speaker 10: pulled back on that. We know that when investigators got

931
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Speaker 10: to the scene, the front door was unlocked, and he's

932
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Speaker 10: saying that he would not discuss how the person or

933
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Speaker 10: persons got in the house and wouldn't described if it

934
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Speaker 10: was forced entry or not. And that also makes sure

935
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Speaker 10: just curiosity button go off again to who are we

936
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Speaker 10: looking for here? Is it someone that is familiar with

937
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Speaker 10: Nancy's patterns? What if they did just go through the

938
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Speaker 10: front door? You know what I'm saying, That would just

939
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Speaker 10: I don't know. That part stuck out to me as well.

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Speaker 2: The White House.

941
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Speaker 6: By the way, a reporter inside of the White House

942
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Speaker 6: is reported that President Trump watched the entire Arizona press

943
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Speaker 6: conference on the latest developments on the search for Savannah

944
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Speaker 6: Guthrie's mom, Nancy. That's according to Jennifer Jacobs at CBS News.

945
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Speaker 6: So the President is super involved. We know the FBI

946
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Speaker 6: is involved. If there was initially a five pm deadline today,

947
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Speaker 6: to bump it to Monday seems like a big jump

948
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Speaker 6: to me. That would also mean that whoever is holding

949
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Speaker 6: Nancy Guthrie, if I'm surmising, feels very confident they're not

950
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Speaker 6: going to be caught because Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Adding

951
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Speaker 6: four days to a deadline, I would think would increase

952
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Speaker 6: the risks substantially that you would be tracked.

953
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Speaker 10: In some way, oh one hundred percent. I mean, the

954
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Speaker 10: two deadlines is weird. Why would you say five pm

955
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Speaker 10: Thursday and then but needs to be done for sure

956
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Speaker 10: by Monday, or there's language in there threading to kill her.

957
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Speaker 10: It's it's it's interesting and again like that's what the

958
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Speaker 10: ransom notes is. They're they're not necessarily saying that this

959
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 10: is the key here, but it's just signs that can't

960
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Speaker 10: be ignored. And they did want to make clear that

961
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Speaker 10: even though the FBI was there at the home where

962
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Speaker 10: the siblings were filming the video and they can advise

963
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Speaker 10: the family, it was the gu thrie's decision to speak

964
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Speaker 10: directly to the perpetrator to put that video out. Meaning again,

965
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Speaker 10: and you know, Clay, with Savannah's background in law in

966
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Speaker 10: all the cases she's covered, she has to have a

967
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Speaker 10: gut feeling and stuff in that letter that makes her

968
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Speaker 10: say no, like, we are going to respond to this

969
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Speaker 10: and engage and we want to talk to.

970
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Speaker 6: This person, no doubt, and we'll continue to follow. Thank

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Speaker 6: you for the time, Linden, thank you for updating on

972
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Speaker 6: all of this, and we'll see what happens going forward,

973
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Speaker 6: and I'll react a little bit more to this as

974
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Speaker 6: we continue. By the way, Senator Dave McCormick of Pennsylvania

975
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Speaker 6: schedule to join us as well.

976
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Speaker 10: Thank you Lindon, Right, thanks guys, vibe all right.

977
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Speaker 6: We come back more reaction to this story and more.

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Speaker 6: This is claim Buck. Thanks for hanging with.

979
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Speaker 7: Us news and politics, but also a little comic relief.

980
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Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

981
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Speaker 7: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you

982
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Speaker 7: get your podcasts.

983
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Speaker 6: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show.

984
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Speaker 2: I am out in California. Super Bowl coming up.

985
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Speaker 6: I'll get the pick of a guy who's pretty big

986
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Speaker 6: football fan, big sports fan in general, Senator Dave McCormick.

987
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Speaker 6: We'll get to that in a moment, but I'll start

988
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Speaker 6: with this because everybody is talking about it. Senator McCormick,

989
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 6: are you and your family are you following this Nancy

990
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 6: Guthrie story. The Press Secretary Caroline Levitt just said that

991
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 6: she and President Trump watched the entire press conference that

992
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 6: just aired. It's a crazy story, and certainly everybody's rooting

993
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 6: for a great outcome. I know a ton is going on,

994
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 6: but it seems like this is in many ways captured

995
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Speaker 6: the attention of the nation asient.

996
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I know I haven't been following it as much

997
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 11: in the last couple hours. But I listened to the

998
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 11: video last night of the three children and just so heartbreaking.

999
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 11: I have a eighty seven year old dad and an

1000
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 11: eighty five year old mom, and I'm just imagining the

1001
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 11: sense of helplessness when your parent as so you want

1002
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 11: to take care of, are vulnerable and who knows what's happened,

1003
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Speaker 11: And it's just absolute heartbreaking, and it's ribboning.

1004
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: We are talking with swir Save McCormick right now.

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00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 6: When you and I texted because I read your Let's

1006
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 6: dive into what you're doing now. You've been in the

1007
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Speaker 6: Senate for a year. You wrote a piece for the

1008
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Speaker 6: Wall Street Journal having to do with the budget related

1009
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 6: issues and just how much money is being spent. You

1010
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 6: ran to try to help address this, but in a

1011
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 6: year have you been stunned at just how rapidly people

1012
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 6: spend money, Democrats, Republicans, everybody on Capitol Hill, and how

1013
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 6: little regard there is for in any way trying to

1014
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 6: balance the budget.

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00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: I love your editorial.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, Clay, you know it feels like a lifetime

1017
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 11: ago since you and I I were together in Pennsylvania

1018
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 11: during my campaign and one of the things I said

1019
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 11: is I'm going to be a guy who shakes up Washington.

1020
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 11: I'm a business person. I'm going to try to bring

1021
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 11: business person sensibilities. And the reason for writing top ed is,

1022
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 11: you know, we've got thirty seven trillion dollar debt. We

1023
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 11: have interest payments that are bigger than our defense budget,

1024
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 11: and it's growing out of control. This year alone, despite

1025
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 11: making some modest progress in the Working Family's Tax Cut Act,

1026
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 11: we have a two trillion dollar deficit. We're spending two

1027
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 11: trillion dollars more than we're bringing in. And the point

1028
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 11: I was making is we did some reforms. We did

1029
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 11: some Medicaid reforms, which are tiny. They essentially slow the

1030
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 11: rate of growth from like six percent a year. Medicaid's

1031
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 11: the fastest growing program that's grown by billions of dollars.

1032
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 11: In Pennsylvania's grown by eighty percent in the last five

1033
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 11: years with the same number of recipients three million recipients.

1034
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Speaker 11: And I was just making the point we made modest reforms,

1035
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 11: basically saying you got to work if you're going to

1036
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 11: receive it, if you're able bodied. Eighty hours a month, Clay,

1037
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Speaker 11: this is not eighty hours a week, eighty hours a month,

1038
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 11: and you would have thought we were dragging babies out

1039
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 11: of incubators. I mean, it was the way these modest

1040
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 11: reforms were presented by the public, to the public, by

1041
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 11: the Democrats, by the by the liberal media was absolutely

1042
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 11: unbelievably irresponsible. And the point I was making is, listen,

1043
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 11: we're going to fall for cliff. And I'm a you know,

1044
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Speaker 11: my pop up, my granddad was a county commissioner in Indiana, Pennsylvania.

1045
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Speaker 5: He's a New Deal Democrat, So I grew up with

1046
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 5: that in my house.

1047
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Speaker 11: I want to take care of the helpless, the vulnerable

1048
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 11: among us, but I want to do it in a

1049
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 11: responsible way. And right now we're going to destroy all

1050
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 11: these programs because we're not able to make make modest

1051
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 11: the modern kinds of modest reforms that are necessary to

1052
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Speaker 11: make them viable. And so it was kind of like

1053
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Speaker 11: a mister Smith goes to Washington. I'm like, holy cow,

1054
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 11: this is what we're dealing with. And I ended with

1055
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 11: the point, Hey, listen, when I was a CEO, if

1056
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 11: I would present to my board, hey, we're going we're

1057
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Speaker 11: going to be bankrupt, but we got no plan to

1058
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 11: reduce spending, and we got no strategy, I would have

1059
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 11: gotten fired on the spot, and I said, well, maybe

1060
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 11: our elected officials should have that same principle.

1061
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 5: I listen, if we're not going to do something, we

1062
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 5: should be fired.

1063
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 6: John Fetterman is maybe the only same Democrat in the Senate,

1064
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 6: which is you know, a small measure of praise there.

1065
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 6: But you guys seem to get along pretty well. And

1066
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Speaker 6: I saw polling recently that Fetterman is actually more popular

1067
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 6: with Pennsylvania Republicans than he is Pennsylvania Democrats, which kind

1068
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 6: of made me raise my eyebrows. What has your working

1069
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 6: relationship been like with Fetterman? What do you think people

1070
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 6: should know about him and about what having one Democrat

1071
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 6: one Republican in Pennsylvania says to the country.

1072
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, there's only two states have fifty that have split

1073
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 11: like that.

1074
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Speaker 5: And you know, he campaigned against me.

1075
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Speaker 11: He was with Bob Casey, and you know, we met

1076
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 11: for the first time I guess for the second, and

1077
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Speaker 11: we met one sturing the campaign. We met the second

1078
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 11: time after I had won, and we just sat down

1079
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 11: and talked and he basically said, listen, you know, you

1080
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 11: seem like a good guy. I'm not going to ever

1081
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 11: play games. I want to find ways to work together.

1082
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 11: And I said, okay, you seem like a good guy.

1083
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 5: Let's do that.

1084
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 11: And we just build a relationship, a friendship. I trust him.

1085
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 11: We agree on a lot of things. We look for

1086
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 11: things to agree on, whether it's stopping fentanyl in Pennsylvania

1087
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Speaker 11: or fracking, or the fight against anti Semitism, or both

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Speaker 11: of us are strong supporters of Israel. We both would

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Speaker 11: never vote to shut down the government. And so we

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Speaker 11: have found a lot of common ground. And you know,

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Speaker 11: I guess the best example of this is he was

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Speaker 11: getting killed by his own party. You know that people

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Speaker 11: were accusing him of having lost his you know, cognitive abilities,

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Speaker 11: his mental health. It was just it was a horrible

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Speaker 11: thing three or four months ago because he wasn't voting

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Speaker 11: the way the liberal Democrats wanted him to vote, and

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Speaker 11: he was just getting killed. And I was like, nobody's

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Speaker 11: defending him. So I sent him a note and I said, listen,

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Speaker 11: you're getting killed. I'd like to come out and defend

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Speaker 11: you and support you, but I'm afraid it might hurt you.

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Speaker 5: What do you think And he said, come in, because nobody.

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Speaker 11: Else is right. And so I came out and said

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Speaker 11: this is a disgrace. I know him, he's you know,

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Speaker 11: he may disagree with him, but he's a good man.

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Speaker 11: And next thing, I know, some other Republicans come out

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Speaker 11: and then some Democrats come out, and I think that

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Speaker 11: sort of solidified it, which is, you know, I've got

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Speaker 11: his back. I'm going to speak truth. We both of

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Speaker 11: us have little tolerance for the nastiness, the name calling,

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Speaker 11: the humanizing.

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Speaker 5: Neither of us do that.

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Speaker 11: And it's worked out great. And I'd say we disagree

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Speaker 11: on more things that we agree on, but we're both

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Speaker 11: working hard for Pennsylvania and I feel lucky to him as.

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Speaker 2: A partner from Pennsylvania. Senator.

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Speaker 6: A lot of discussion about voting and in particular what

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Speaker 6: the rules should be nationwide.

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Speaker 2: There's the Face Act that is.

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Speaker 6: Right now in front of the Senate, a lot of

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Speaker 6: debate going on. You won, I think by fifteen or

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Speaker 6: sixteen thousand votes, but it took a long time for

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Speaker 6: that final.

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Speaker 2: Race to be called.

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Speaker 6: It seems quite clear that we should have voter id

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Speaker 6: and nationwide standards. Huge percentages of Democrats and Republicans all

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Speaker 6: agree on that. Why can't we get it done?

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Speaker 5: You are right, this is the Save Act.

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Speaker 11: I am a co sponsor, a strong public voice on this,

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Speaker 11: and I just don't understand it. It's the most basic principle,

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Speaker 11: which is you should only be able to vote for

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Speaker 11: a US citizen, and you should be able to prove

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Speaker 11: that with voter ID, just like you have to prove

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Speaker 11: that to get on an airplane or any basic things

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Speaker 11: in society. And there's a piece of legislation that I

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Speaker 11: think the number of supporters and the republic side is growing.

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Speaker 11: I'm going to make a very strong public case to

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Speaker 11: get my colleagues to support it, and I'm hoping we

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Speaker 11: can get some Democrats to support it and not supporting

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Speaker 11: us in defensible, it's indefensible.

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Speaker 5: In terms of substance.

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Speaker 11: Why would you ever want to allow who are on

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Speaker 11: American citizens, which is in conflict with the Constitution, to

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Speaker 11: be able to vote, And why wouldn't you want them

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Speaker 11: to verify that the people they sat. The only reason

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Speaker 11: you would not want that is if you thought you

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Speaker 11: were going to benefit from illegal people voting, which is

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Speaker 11: the why the Democrat leadership, even though the ninety five

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Speaker 11: percent of Republicans and seventy five percent of Democrats in

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Speaker 11: polling support voter I D support this well, not to

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Speaker 11: say act with voter I d despite that, we're not

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Speaker 11: having any movement. So I think we need to have

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Speaker 11: this debate publicly. We need to have the Democrats get

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Speaker 11: on the floor of the Senate and explain why they're

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Speaker 11: not in favor of voter ID and I think when

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Speaker 11: the American public hears that, they will not be convinced.

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Speaker 5: I just listened to Thune in the last.

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Speaker 11: Day, so say that we're going to have a vote

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Speaker 11: in the Senate, which I think is absolutely the right

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Speaker 11: thing to do, and I think everybody should be put

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Speaker 11: on noticed. This is a critical thing for America's elections,

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Speaker 11: and more important as important as the election is the

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Speaker 11: faith that people have in their elections. And you know

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Speaker 11: a lot of people we don't have faith in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 11: A lot of people don't have faith across from America. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 11: it's for good reason.

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Speaker 6: I think, I said the Face Act, that's what Don

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Speaker 6: Lemon got charged under a Save Act is what the

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Speaker 6: voting ability to make it reliable is. You have seen

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Speaker 6: a lot of transformation occurring in Pennsylvania in a positive

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Speaker 6: way economically. What have the President's economic policies that you supported?

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Speaker 6: The tax cuts what have they meant on the ground

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Speaker 6: in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 5: It's been great.

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Speaker 11: I mean the agenda is the deregulation agenda, The energy

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Speaker 11: dominance agenda is particularly important for Pennsylvania because we're the

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Speaker 11: second largest energy producer in the country, fourth largest natural

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Speaker 11: gas reserves in the world. And the presidents not only

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Speaker 11: had great policies, he's been a great supporter.

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Speaker 5: He came. Dean and I my wife.

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Speaker 11: We hosted an energy and innovation summit with the President

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Speaker 11: of July. He came as my guest at Carnegie Mellon.

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Speaker 11: His whole cabinet came. We had CEOs from across energy investing,

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Speaker 11: the big tech companies, the big hyper scalers, we had,

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Speaker 11: the Democratic governor came, We had big global investors, we

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Speaker 11: had the building trades come. And you need all those people,

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Speaker 11: Clay to make this happen. This is a team sport.

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Speaker 11: You need all those people to make this transformation happen.

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Speaker 11: And we had a roundtable with the President and all

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Speaker 11: those CEOs, and those CEOs stepped up and committed publicly

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Speaker 11: ninety two billion dollars of investment in Pennsylvania, fifty billion

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Speaker 11: of energy infrastructure, forty two billion in data centers. Publicly,

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Speaker 11: we had one hundred media people there. The reason I

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Speaker 11: say that is that would have been inconceivable under the

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Speaker 11: Biden administration. And it's the kind of effort that we

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Speaker 11: need to transform America to win this global AI and

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Speaker 11: energy race. And what I tell my friends in Pennsylvania is, listen,

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Speaker 11: We're in a race with China for AI leadership. We're

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Speaker 11: also in a race with Georgia and Tennessee and Texas

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Speaker 11: and Florida. Because capital and talent is like water, It's

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Speaker 11: going to go to the path of least resistance. And

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Speaker 11: so my goal is to make Pennsylvania ground zero for

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Speaker 11: all the new investment. It creates hundreds of thousands of jobs,

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Speaker 11: great paying jobs for Pennsylvanians, and we're off to a

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Speaker 11: great start with that.

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Speaker 6: All right, much less significant. But I'm in San Francisco.

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Speaker 6: Game is in Santa Clara on Sunday, the Super Bowl

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Speaker 6: Seahawks Patriots. I'm taking Seahawks twenty four to twenty one.

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Speaker 6: Have you had time to make your pick yet? Do

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Speaker 6: you have anything? I think you have six daughters if

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Speaker 6: I'm not mistaken. What is Super Bowl Sunday like? In

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Speaker 6: the McCormick household.

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Speaker 11: Well, it's usually it's usually has a lot to do

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Speaker 11: with a lot of food and a lot of energy

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Speaker 11: and preparing for it. We're we're gonna have our girls

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Speaker 11: are spread, they're all out of the house now they're empty. Noess,

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Speaker 11: we're not going to have the whole gang. But I'm

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Speaker 11: going to be rooting for the Patriots. I just saw

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Speaker 11: my friend Bob Kraft, and I don't think he'd let

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Speaker 11: me forgive it if I was in a cheering for him.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 11: If it's if it's the Steelers or the Eagles, the

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Speaker 11: Birds in the super Bowl, it's easy. But in this case,

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Speaker 11: I'm hoping for the Patriots. And you know, it's been

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Speaker 11: They've been an unbelievable season. And you know, I think

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Speaker 11: what Bob Craft and his organization have done is really

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Speaker 11: been remarkable. And to be back in the super Bowl

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Speaker 11: after that dynasty they've created as a real tribute to

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Speaker 11: that organization.

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Speaker 6: No doubt that it's incredible. Thanks to Senator Dave McCormick.

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Speaker 6: We'll talk to you again soon. Let us know how

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Speaker 6: we can help and keep up the good work.

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Speaker 5: You got it. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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