1 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What 2 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: You Did. 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 2: My name is Millie to Jericho, I'm Danielle Henderson, and we. 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: Are back with you baby, talking about the wonderful world 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: of film. What's up the pictures? The cinema. However, anytime 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: we can say it in a weird accent, that's that's 7 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: how we start, like to start to show. So that's 8 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: what we prefer, yea cinema. Well, listen, we don't want 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: to like dilly dally. 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: Today at all. I love you. I don't want to 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: talk at all. 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna say I love you too, But let's 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: not ask about each other's lives. Because we have this 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: amazing guest uh for the mail bag this episode. We 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: have been trying to get this wonderful woman on the 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: pod for a really long time, and I have to say, 17 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: I think that this is maybe the first time that 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: we actually have a director of a film that we've 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: actually discussed on the pod. 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: Right first and last, we're I mean, this is the apex. 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: We're never doing it again. Yes, I mean Paul Spielberg 22 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 3: can tell him to cancel. You're not doing it. 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: We would never have Spielberg on here like, and I'm 24 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: not just saying because he's in he's hard to get, 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: but what would we even say to him? 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just throwing that out there. 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 3: This is all we ever wanted, and the fact that 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: we have it, I'm like, let me play some lotto numbers. 29 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: Let me like throw some crystals out in the sunlight 30 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 3: or the moonlight. 31 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: Yes, well, let's let me introduce our guest who's going 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: to answer a letter from our mail bag. She is 33 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: an incredible director, writer, a director for TV and film. 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: In fact, she's an amazing woman. She's very inspirational for 35 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: the both of us. She does so much. She's a 36 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: consummate cinophile, like knows so much about film, She teaches film. 37 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: She knows so much about music, which I love personally. 38 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: She actually does a music and film festival in LA 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: with her daughter, and we just love her. And I'm 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: so lucky that I actually have known our guests for 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: many years. We met through my job, my full time 42 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: job at TCM, which seems like the best place to 43 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: meet anybody really. 44 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: But our guest for the. 45 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: Mailbag is the wonderful Alison Anders. 46 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: Hello, Oh my goodness, Hello, Hello, Just like the North 47 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: Star goddess of my heart? 48 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: How are you? 49 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: Bless you? 50 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Guys? 51 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: So fun to be here. It's so so fun to 52 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 4: be here. 53 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: Oh, we cannot cannot express how how great it is. 54 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: Again and again, just as someone who loves film and 55 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: makes films like you had a post not too long 56 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 3: ago on your Instagram about how you spent the whole 57 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: day at the movies, and I was like, yes, I 58 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: was more riveted than I was reading anything in the 59 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 3: New York or the New York Times. 60 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: Like I was like, yes, tell me more. What did 61 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: you see? What did you see next? Who did you 62 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: go with? Who was this friend you were hanging out with? 63 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: It was wonderful, Like you just truly love You love 64 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: movies the way we love movies, which is, you know, 65 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: anything goes as long as it it touches you, as 66 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: long as it's good. 67 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: Oh boy, I do love movies. You know. 68 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 5: I was just this morning, I was thinking, I gotta, 69 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 5: I gotta spend this whole weekend watching stuff because I 70 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 5: need to. I need to get filled up, whether I'm 71 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 5: watching it on TV or I go to the movies. 72 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 5: You know, there's a few things I want to see 73 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 5: out there. 74 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: But you know, and does and does it do that. 75 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: I feel like I feel the same way about films, 76 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: which is that sometimes I just need to be filled 77 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: with an experience. Yeah, And is that kind of what 78 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: you find that you that that feeling that you have 79 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: sometimes like I just need to fill my brain with. 80 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 4: Experience, absolutely and put the down. 81 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 5: I mean, that's the good thing about going to the 82 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 5: movie theater now something that our fore mothers in the 83 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 5: industry could never have imagined, which is that, you know, 84 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 5: the added benefit is you're sitting there for a couple 85 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 5: of hours and you. 86 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: Can't look at your damn phone. You can't. Yeah, you can't. 87 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 5: You know, you got to you gotta focus, especially if 88 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 5: it's got subtitles. 89 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 4: That's that's. 90 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 5: Oh that's a killer at home because if I look 91 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 5: away for one minute, I've lost the plot, you. 92 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: Know, totally completely, I know, but it is. 93 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: It is actually something that we hear from listeners a 94 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 3: lot who will say, you know, I don't know if 95 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: I have the attention span for movies or you know, 96 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: I can't put my phone down, and I'm like, it 97 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: is crucial for me to get that time away from 98 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: electronics and away from devices, and it's it's welcome to 99 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: me to have to pay attention to something else. 100 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 5: It's really absolutely, really absolutely yeah. 101 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: Well, we're so happy that you're here to answer a 102 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: question because you know, I actually remember when I sent 103 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: you a message to tell you by the way, we 104 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: talked about gas, food, lodging on an episode of the podcast, 105 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: and there was a part of me that was like, 106 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: I hope she doesn't get freaked out by how much 107 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: I love this movie, you know what I mean, where 108 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, she might think I'm this like lunatic because 109 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: I just wanted to go like thirty minutes on this 110 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: wonderful film that you. 111 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 3: Made, and then really likes to go for like ten years, 112 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 3: and then she'll rip off the mask. 113 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: In a friendship, I like to you know, I'm trying 114 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: to be cool. 115 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: So I don't want to like to give it all 116 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: away up front, and then eventually, many many years down 117 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: the line, I just like confess how much I love 118 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: something and love you, and then people are like, Okay, 119 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: where did this come from? 120 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 5: But anyway, but sant Tristina, I know how that is 121 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 5: because I've done this before, where you know you have 122 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 5: a friend and then you go, well, just because I'm 123 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 5: a friend, doesn't mean I'm not a fan of what 124 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 5: they just did. You know, I remember calling or or 125 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 5: you know, just writing an email to Kim Gordon long 126 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 5: after I worked with them and everything, and I just said, 127 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 5: I got to tell you I love this new record 128 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 5: so much. And I you know, I said, me and 129 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 5: Tiffany were in the car and we just stopped, like 130 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 5: you know, we stopped talking just to listen. 131 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: And she was like, oh, thanks, Allison. You know, sometimes 132 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: you just go I said, I mean, I know we're friends, 133 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: but I got to tell you. 134 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 5: I stepped outside of that moment to say I really 135 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 5: love this. 136 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 4: And and sometimes you got to do that. 137 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 5: And she says, yeah, sometimes you have this work and 138 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 5: you just go as anybody listening, does anybody care? And 139 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 5: then somebody you know close to you will say something 140 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 5: and it's yeah, so appreciatingful. 141 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: Oh I think it's me. 142 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: And you should never feel like you have to be 143 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: cool around people that you are friends with and love. 144 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: I think it's it's true. It's a great experience. 145 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 3: I just I love supporting people in that way and 146 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 3: just saying like hey, I love that sweater you made, 147 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: I love that movie you made, I love that Yeah 148 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: you did. I'm a big fan of my friends, so 149 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: I feel like just be a fan of them. 150 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm working on that. Okay, I'm a work in progress, 151 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: as they say, so I promise I'll be a little 152 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: bit more forthcoming with the adoration from now on. But 153 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, Alison, You're like when I met you, it 154 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: was like many years ago at the TCM Festival, and 155 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: like I had loved you, you know, loved your films 156 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: when I was younger, and and then I remember you 157 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: and Terry Terry was there and we were I was 158 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: like double freaked out because of Terry as well, because 159 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: he was in gun Club and I was like, Alison Anderson, 160 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: the drummer from gun Club are literally in front of me, 161 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: and I was like having like almost a panic attack. 162 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: But you know what, like I'm so. 163 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: Much better for it. I'm so happy that I've gotten 164 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: to like see you over the years. And maybe you know, 165 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: talk about film, it's always in the context of film, 166 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: which I really. 167 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 4: Loved me too. 168 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so we figured like we wanted to have 169 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: you on this one because I think this is a 170 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: great question actually, and I would love to hear your 171 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: answer to it. So Danielle, do you want to read 172 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: the question. 173 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: I do want to read the question, and before I do, 174 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: I also have to say that it's it's nice to 175 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,559 Speaker 3: it's nice when someone that you admire so much also 176 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: ends up being a very cool person. 177 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: So, so thank you for walking it like you talk it. 178 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: I was a fan of your films and a fan 179 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: of you way before we ever even connected in a 180 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 3: marginal way. 181 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: And you are. 182 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: Just as cool and thoughtful and kind and wonderful as 183 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: as you show us that you are in all of 184 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: your work. So thank you for that. 185 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, thank you. 186 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 2: And our question now, our question is I like this 187 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: I like this one a lot. Yeah. So our question 188 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: is I. 189 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: Am currently stuck at home in quarantine, and I was 190 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: wondering if you have any favorite sick day movies. As 191 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: a kid, I used to always watch The Never Ending 192 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: Story when I was homesick, and I feel like I 193 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: need to find a grown up version of the sick 194 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: day movie for me that means something compelling enough to 195 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: keep me awake, like a thriller or adventure movie, but 196 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: with an ending that doesn't make me feel even more 197 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 3: bummed out than being stuck at homesick does. What are 198 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: some of your go to sick day movies? What do 199 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: you look for in a good sick day movie? And 200 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: that letter was from Jess, who uses she her pronouns. 201 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you know with I mean, I have 202 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 5: movies that I go to for any time that I'm 203 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 5: in crisis, you know, any kind of crisis. Number one, 204 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 5: Hard Day's Night works for me every time. In fact, 205 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 5: there's even a little saying among people that know me 206 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 5: very well if I'm very grumpy or panicked or anything, 207 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 5: which is I think somebody needs to watch A Hard 208 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 5: Day's Night. 209 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: Such a great sand because you're also like, oh wait, 210 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: I probably should calm down. 211 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it is it the same as so the 212 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 3: person who sent in this question. Do you kind of 213 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: have the same guidelines where it has to be something 214 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 3: that is comforting but doesn't make you bummed out? 215 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 2: Like is it? 216 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 3: Because The Hard Day's Night is a great film for 217 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 3: so many reasons, But I like, I like going back 218 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: to movies like that that that I find I kind 219 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 3: of know really well, so I can sense what's coming up, 220 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: and I know what's coming and that makes me feel comforted. 221 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I think that for a Hard Day's Night, 222 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 5: it's like the combination of the Beatles. It's remembering my 223 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 5: exuberance seeing it in the theater as a little girl 224 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 5: over and over and over again and screaming through the 225 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 5: whole thing. 226 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: And. 227 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 4: With five hundred screaming little girls. 228 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: That's so awesome. Like I remember when my friend passed out. 229 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 5: And you know, it's things like that. I mean, I 230 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 5: remember when I watch it now. I remember watching it 231 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 5: as an adult at sun Dance because we were so 232 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 5: overwhelmed trying to sell our film Sugartown and there were 233 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 5: three different options available, and I was exhausted, and I go, 234 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 5: you know what, I'm going to take my family and 235 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 5: goes watch A Hard Day's Night. I'm going to scream 236 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 5: as a grown ass woman and then, you know, then 237 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 5: we'll talk about this afterwards. 238 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 4: And it was amazing. The film comes on. 239 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 5: I scream, I'm the only one screaming, and. 240 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: The cops were called. Then they leave and then I 241 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: keep watch it and then I walk out. 242 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 5: It's snowing and there's my agent at the time, Shauna Eddie, 243 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 5: standing in a co in the snow, and she goes 244 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 5: you and Kurt, my co director, Kurt Boss. You and 245 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 5: Kurt need to come with me, let the kids go 246 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 5: back to the hotel. She says, we're gonna take a walk, 247 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 5: and so we walked up the street and there was 248 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 5: a party going on and we just sold the movie. 249 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: Wow. 250 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 4: So it was kind of I blame Hard Day's Night 251 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: for that. 252 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: I blame Night for that. Yeah you should. 253 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 3: That is so cathartic on so many levels that you 254 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 3: were able to have the catharsis of screaming to Hard 255 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: Day's Night and then the relief of we have sold 256 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 3: a film there it is there, beautiful. 257 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 5: So so there's that. I also like to you know, 258 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 5: one of the movies that I love so much that 259 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 5: helps me is a big epic like Giant. 260 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 4: Giant is one of those movies that. 261 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 5: Over and over again always it just always thrills me. 262 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,479 Speaker 5: And like you said, I know this movie inside out. 263 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 5: That friend that I went to the movies, that I 264 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 5: met at the movies that you. 265 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 4: Were talking about, Danielle, he. 266 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 5: Just posted last night on Instagram that it was time 267 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 5: to watch Giant again. I was like, always always the 268 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 5: time to watch Giant anytime that it's on TCM. I'm like, 269 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 5: I'm not going to watch this again. I've seen it 270 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 5: a million times. 271 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: And then I sit there. You know. That's that's how 272 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: TCM gets you. They like that every time. 273 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: But it's like a three hour movie. It's like you know, 274 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: you're going to be in for a while or whatever. 275 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: And I love that too. I actually watch I tend 276 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: to watch longer movies when I'm at home sick, I 277 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: think as well, yeah, yeah. 278 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: Yes, I agree. 279 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 5: Now I'm also a fanatic for spy film since she 280 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 5: had mentioned or the question had mentioned action movies, and 281 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 5: you know, so I'm pretty crazy about spy movies. And 282 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 5: by the way, it's not a movie, but it should be. 283 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 5: It could be a six hour, seven hour movie, which 284 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 5: is the new Epchris File on AMC Plus is. 285 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: Really I don't watch it? 286 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, so good. 287 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that was a movie I watched as a 288 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 5: child with Michael Caine and I was obsessed. 289 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 4: With that movie. So I really like spy movies. I 290 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: love Taylor Uh Tinker tailor. 291 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 5: Taylor Spy absolutely to death, and so I'll always watch that. 292 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 4: That's another one of those. 293 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: It's that's one that's like I feel like for six 294 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: dy movies. 295 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: I tend to go towards things like that as well, 296 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: because usually when I was home sick. I grew up 297 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: with my grandparents and they would put on what they 298 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: wanted to watch. So it's comforting to me to watch 299 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: things that remind me of being, you know, bundled up 300 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: on the couch in a blanket and there was the 301 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: Tinker Tailor and Westerns like Westerns for sure, Westerns. 302 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Westerns. Yeah, I'll always watch The Man from 303 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 5: y Rmy two. I've got the posterback there behind me. Yeah, 304 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 5: that's one of those as well. 305 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: And I think like recently as an adult, I've tried 306 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: to when I'm sick. I usually it's a chance for 307 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: me to calm down and to not do anything, which 308 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: is rare where I have a day where I don't 309 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: have to do anything, and so I tend to go 310 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: to comedy a lot, Like I go back to comedies 311 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: that I liked, and I'll go to like Jacques Tati 312 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: or something like that. But yeah, like I've got a 313 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: nice box set. But the last time I was sick 314 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: was COVID related and I had a so kept well 315 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: well known to listeners already. But Kevin Klein was absolutely 316 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: responsible for my sexual awakening in the eighties, and I 317 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: rewatched a fish called Wanda, and I was like, this 318 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: is great. This is a great thick day film like 319 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: I did. Just chill out and relax and I love it. 320 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: And it can laugh and you can also fall asleep 321 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: and wake up and you don't worry about missing anything. 322 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 4: That's true. I really loved Dave. That's one of my 323 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: favorites with this. 324 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: Yes, Dave, And I'll tell you I have been. 325 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 5: I was on a jury at Lacarno Film Festival with 326 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 5: Catherine Bigelow. 327 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 4: And so we were together. I mean, we had an 328 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 4: amazing jury that year. 329 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 5: It was just crazy Olivia Assiahs and just so many, 330 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 5: so many great Valeria Galino. 331 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 4: I mean, it was spectacular. 332 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 5: But we had watched about thirty movies together, you know, 333 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 5: and so and we both presented movies too. 334 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: So we get on the. 335 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 5: Plane, we're flying home, and the minute they come around, 336 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 5: they go, would you like to watch a movie? We 337 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 5: both looked at each other and I got we're not 338 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 5: watching anymore movie. The Bob sat there and we go 339 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 5: watch the movie and she says Dave, and we're like, 340 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 5: give us us. 341 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: We're all moving out. I'm lessing Dave. And then we're 342 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: back in Okay. 343 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: That is a screenplay in and of itself. Is you 344 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: and Catherine Bigelow watching Dave? 345 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: Completely? I love that story so much. What's the film Dave? 346 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 4: All Right? You just in my arm. 347 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: That's the answer to the question, really is it really is? 348 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: Watch Dave? Watch? 349 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's too funny. 350 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: And I love that too, because because I imagine in 351 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 3: in your life and at work and not at work, 352 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 3: that you you know, you have to kind of be 353 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: really precise with your downtime often, and so even if 354 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 3: you're not having a sick day, like, are there films 355 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 3: that you find are just comforting for you to kind 356 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 3: of decompress or well? 357 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I always tend to go back to 358 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 4: the old movies. I mean I go back to. 359 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 5: I mean one of the most important movies to my 360 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 5: life was A Stolen Life with Betty Davis. And you know, 361 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 5: the more that I know about it, you know, I 362 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 5: mean I kind of stole the end the ending for gas, 363 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 5: food lodging that's not in there now, but that was 364 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 5: my original ending. I stole from there, and you know, 365 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 5: and so it's kind of a I've learned more about 366 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 5: that movie over the years, but even the music, you know, 367 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 5: gets to me, you know. And her performance is so magnificent. 368 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 5: And it was the first movie she had produced, so 369 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 5: so she really called all the shots, you know. I 370 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 5: mean she discovered Glenn Ford and she she did all 371 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 5: of that, you know for that movie. She hired the 372 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 5: director and you know, so. 373 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: Her hair in that movie, her bangs in that movie, Yeah, 374 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: you were like truly the like picture that I would 375 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: show my hairstylus for like twenty years. I was like, 376 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: can you do this small bang? 377 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: But swoopy. I don't know how she managed. 378 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: I guess she has sick hair, but I'm like, it's 379 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: the perfect bang. I just love her hair in that. 380 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 2: Movie so much, so good. So I love that one. 381 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: And I love odd Man Out. Oh yeah, in fact, 382 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 4: I love that that score so much and it's. 383 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 5: And you know it was that score was composed by 384 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 5: William Alwin, who's the great grandfather of Joe, you know. 385 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 5: And so I was kind of like, I want to 386 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 5: cast Joe just because I can talk to him about 387 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 5: his great grandfather. 388 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 4: He probably back, I've never met him, but he's. 389 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: Got photos or something about him. Yeah, there's some family 390 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: stories kicking around. I'm sure, even if they. 391 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: Never met I love I Look, I think I've I've 392 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 3: hired people for less for us. 393 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the one. 394 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 4: He's wonderful too. But at the same time it's a 395 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 4: bonus exactly. 396 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 3: And I love too that this that these are also 397 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: that the movies that you go back to that are comforting, 398 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 3: they are also things that inspired you in your own work. 399 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: Like that's incredible. 400 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure, for sure. 401 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: Well I think Jess has quite a bit on her 402 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: watch list at this point, right, Yeah, that's and I 403 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: feel like, besides Dave, which we rocketed to the top 404 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: of the list, but so so many good classics, and 405 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, like that would be an incredible sick 406 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: day movie for me is to watch like a hard 407 00:20:54,480 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: day's night Giants Dave of course, you know, and just 408 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: do like a whole like twenty four hour, forty eight 409 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: hour film festival of stuff and then hopefully you'll feel 410 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: better after. 411 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: So, especially if you're quarantining, you're going to be doing 412 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 3: that for a while. You're gonna be in that room 413 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 3: for ten days maybe, so Adam all yeah, yeah, yeah. 414 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: Well before we let you go, Allison, I wanted to 415 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: say that. So for this episode, It's actually interesting because 416 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the film too, Lane Blacktop, 417 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: and you were on one of my favorite commentary tracks 418 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: on Criterion was you and the director Moni Hellman talking 419 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: about Tulane Blacktop. So I just think that's interesting that 420 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: you're on the episode that we're going to talk about. 421 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: You know when I used, actually I used your commentary 422 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: track to do research for the film this week. So, 423 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, mate, everything you had to say about 424 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: the movie is incredible. I really encouraged everybody to like 425 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: track down a copy of the DVD just to hear 426 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: your commentary. But uh, oh wait, did you did you? 427 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: Would you consider Tulane Blacktop a movie for Quarantine? 428 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of you know what I have. 429 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 5: I absolutely would for me. It's like that's another movie 430 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 5: that I I I can't not watch, you know when 431 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 5: whenever it's whenever I get an opportunity to see it, 432 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 5: I'm in, you know. And it's it's interesting because I'm 433 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 5: about to go to this to the Harry Dean Stanton 434 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 5: Film Festival to present in Lexington, to present Paris, Texas. 435 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 5: But to talk about I mean, Harry's just so great 436 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 5: and two Lane Black I mean, they're all so good 437 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 5: and you've got hello. I mean, you can just you 438 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 5: could even you could turn the sound down on two 439 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 5: lane Blacktop because there isn't much dialogue and just look 440 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 5: at all the gorgeous people in it, and I Glorie 441 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 5: Bird and James Taylor and Dennis Wills. 442 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: You say, I would hard Day's Night Bo James Taylor 443 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: and Dennis Wilson of the Speek. 444 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: I'd be running, like. 445 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: If they were driving down the interstate, I would be 446 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: running after them, screaming right. 447 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 4: Same here, same here. I'm right there with you. Let's go. 448 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. 449 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 3: I also love the idea of turning the movie down 450 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: and just like you can put on your own soundtrack, 451 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 3: even like you're very very adept, why not, but you 452 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 3: want to hear the. 453 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 4: Roar of the engine. 454 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: So I know, yeah, well it really uh. 455 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 4: I love the movie so much. 456 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 5: And you know, interestingly enough, the connection is at that 457 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 5: same film festival is where I met uh, where Catherine 458 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 5: and I watched all those movies together. 459 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 4: I met Monty there. 460 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 5: Oh wow, yeah, so that was the you know, he 461 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 5: was there presenting a movie and and just we go 462 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 5: to film festivals all the time. Because he loved movies 463 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 5: and so so that's when we became friends. And in fact, 464 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 5: when I when I did my movie Things Behind the Sun, 465 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 5: I had to make because the budget was so low, 466 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 5: I had to make a hard choice between shooting on 467 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 5: film or shooting in Florida, and it was which is 468 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 5: ironic to think that back in that day, shooting in 469 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 5: LA was the cheaper option. 470 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: Completely part I believe, I love that choice, film or Florida, 471 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: Film or Florida. 472 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 5: So I picked Florida because I needed to shoot in 473 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 5: the I wanted to shoot in the town and the 474 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 5: house where all the events took place in my life personally. 475 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 4: But I was so devastated because I was like, but 476 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 4: I wanted to look like Tulamee Blacktop. How is that 477 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: going to look like tulame Blacktop when it's when it's 478 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 4: shot on digital? 479 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 5: And this was early digital, so you know, so I 480 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 5: told my DP, I go, this's gotta look like Tulane. 481 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 4: Got to do our best. 482 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 5: So the most amazing thing was having a test screening 483 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 5: a Monty, I mean just for close friends and stuff. 484 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 4: And Monty came and when he was leaving, he goes, Alison, 485 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 4: it looks great. 486 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh God, deal is done. Deal 487 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: is put yourself in the sarcophagus and just slide the 488 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 2: letter for yourself. 489 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: Don don This is beautiful what I I truly could 490 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 3: talk to you all day and I actually hope you too. 491 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 3: I really hope you'll come back and we'll have other 492 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: questions that also, Millie and I have other questions for you. 493 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we just want to hang. 494 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: We just want to I love it. 495 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: And also, like, I just appreciate so much that you 496 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: You're like Milly to me and that you are a 497 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: film your film historian in the truest sense of the word, 498 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: which is that you you you absolutely support and and 499 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: and remind us and just push these movies that are 500 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 3: important to you. And it doesn't have to be more 501 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: than that for you to be You don't have to 502 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 3: be mired down. You can be mired down in the 503 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 3: details of things you like. But I just really appreciate 504 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: that you are. You're just like again, like so cool 505 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 3: and so wonderful, and you are so inspiring because you 506 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: genuinely enjoy what you do and are inspired by what 507 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 3: you do. And it's nice that you're able to remind 508 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 3: us to be the same way. 509 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 4: Ah, bless you. This has just been so great. Thank 510 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 4: you so much. 511 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for being on the episode. Please come back. 512 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: Thank you Jess for sending in our letter this week, 513 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: and we hope that you have lots to watch now 514 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: looking quarantine, it's a bit. 515 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 5: I gotta also thank Mellie because I swear to you 516 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 5: you know that. I the way that we met was 517 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 5: I tracked her down because I was like, yeah, program 518 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 5: Border radio on TCM, because I was so thrilled that 519 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 5: somebody had done that. 520 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 4: So now I'm part I think that's part of them family. 521 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 4: I get to meet Danielle. 522 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 2: I mean, we all find Millie that way. We're like, 523 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 2: who's the weirdo? Who did that? That's my best friend? Sweet? 524 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: Oh well, this is fantastic again. Please come back and 525 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: I just will. We'll talk to you anytime when we're 526 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 3: we'll come to LA and hang out. You can come 527 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 3: hang out in Atlanta. It'd be wonderful, all right. 528 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 4: Lots of love girls, Oh my god, I'm. 529 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: So glad we had Allison. I mean, what's not to love? 530 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: And I'm just so enamored of her, completely enamored of her, 531 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 3: and just if anyone in this world is deserving of 532 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: all the goodness. 533 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 2: It is her. 534 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, like the literally, like the first twelve 535 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: hours I lived in La, Like when I moved there, 536 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: I was getting my haircut because I was like, oh, 537 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: I just got off the road, and I guess I 538 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: need a haircut, And so I went to get my 539 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: haircut and she was there. She was the first person 540 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: I saw that I knew in LA, and I felt 541 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: like that was some sort of blessing, even though I 542 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: had the worst experience in La. But that's neither here 543 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: nor there. But anyway, she she made me feel right 544 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: right at home in the city immediately, and so I 545 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: will never forget that. 546 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: But we love her. 547 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: Well, we have quite a theme this week, an actual, 548 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: real fun theme. You want to tell them what the 549 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: theme is? 550 00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: Well, our theme was actually thought of by Millie, who 551 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: insists that she never pulls her weight, But this came 552 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: from her. 553 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: What. Yeah, I don't know if you remember or not, 554 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: but it came from you. And the theme is summer 555 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: road trip. 556 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: Oh shit, I completely forgot that I suggested it, But 557 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: now now that I know, I'm like, thank you me. 558 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Silly is doing future Millia solid. 559 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: So I want to ask you, like, right off the bat, 560 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: did you ever because Okay, we have talked both about 561 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: like we've done a lot of traveling, done a lot 562 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: of driving. You've done a lot of solo driving, which 563 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: I find very interesting. I still can't get over the 564 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: fact that you drove to Alaska. You've told that story 565 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: about three thousand times because I keep asking you, but 566 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: I just you know, I'm just so in awe of that, right, 567 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: But I want to ask you, did you ever like 568 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: road trips or the summer, Like did you ever go 569 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: on vacation during summer? Like what was your what are 570 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: your relationship to road trips? 571 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, my family didn't go on vacation's period, so we 572 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 3: never did a summer road trip. 573 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: And my grandparents didn't drive, so that was out. 574 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: But when I started driving, I took as many summer 575 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 3: road trips as possible. 576 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: So as a teenager, just. 577 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: You know, work, I would work during the day and 578 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: I would drive to another state just to see a concert, like, 579 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 3: oh there's someone playing in Connecticut, I'm going to Connecticut. 580 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: So I love being on the road, and I particularly 581 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: love it in the summer. 582 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 3: It's just easier to drive, it's more free it's not 583 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 3: as you know, I'm from the East coast, so it's 584 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 3: not as weather heavy. And there's just something cool about 585 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 3: like rolling down your windows and screaming along to a 586 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 3: song against when I was a teenager, grab a friend. 587 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: Nothing better than grabbing a friend and just being like, 588 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: let's go somewhere for two days. We'll just drive until 589 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: we can't and then turn around. 590 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: So I love it. 591 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 3: And yes, I have traversed this country quite a few times. 592 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 3: My trip to Alaska was a summer road trip. 593 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: I left in May. I immediately went drove south. 594 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: I picked up a friend and we went to Memphis 595 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 3: in May concert in well Memphis Shocker, and it was 596 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: so fun. 597 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: It was just so fun. 598 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 3: And then you know, drove really took my time driving 599 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 3: across country. It took me a couple of months, and 600 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 3: then just hit the West coast and drove straight up 601 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: to Alaska. And during the summer it was really cool 602 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 3: because you get the glacial runoff from you know, a 603 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 3: lot of the glaciers in Canada, so when you dip 604 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 3: your feet in streams, it's. 605 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: Like always cool. And it was just kind of nice, 606 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 2: kind of nice to be out there and wild and free, 607 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 2: and what about you. Do you like a summer road trip? 608 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: I sure fucking do, girl, I do love them. I'm 609 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: from the South, so you know, that's just part of 610 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: the vibe down here is to you know, drive to 611 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: like from Atlanta. You know, it's very It takes like, 612 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, seven hours to get to New Orleans, 613 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: seven hours to get to Memphis. Like Nashville's three hours away. 614 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: So there's all these like places to kind of go 615 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: that you can do, like a day drive. 616 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: Nice. 617 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: So that's always been something that I would do with friends. 618 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: I mean when I was a kid, we definitely did 619 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: go on vacation and we drove because my parents are 620 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: too cheap to fly, so they were like, why the 621 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: fact are we gonna spend money on planet tickets? 622 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 2: Well, we can just drive. 623 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 3: So I don't blame them, because trying to wrangle a 624 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: family into an airport, I don't care how quick it is. 625 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: It seems like hell on Earth. Yeah, oh my god. 626 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: Like now that I've seen the other side of it 627 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: where I have little kids in my family, I'm just like, no, 628 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: never never put a kid in an airplane, Like, don't 629 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: get them through security. 630 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: It's just like a disaster. 631 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just and I so I would just 632 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: go to beach. You know, it's nothing fancy. But but 633 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: then you know, when I was in my twenties, I 634 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: did a lot of road trips, a lot of like 635 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, like let's go drive to see the biggest 636 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: peanut in America or whatever. You know, it's like all 637 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: that crap, like tourist trap stuff, and you know, like 638 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: and it's kind of you know, it's also this kind 639 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: of thing too where I I kind of love like 640 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: not taking the interstate, which I feel like is a 641 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: huge connection point between our two movies this week, because yes, 642 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: that to me, like interstate driving is obviously very efficient 643 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: and you know, it's you know whatever it is, but 644 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: it's but taking like back roads and like little state 645 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: highway type things is always like I mean, it's kind 646 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: of like it's a roll of the dice, to be honest, 647 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: but it's also like kind of fun because you can 648 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: see like so much stuff you never see. 649 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, it is could not be more true. 650 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 3: Like I but I agree with you, agree with you 651 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 3: fully that it is a roll of the fucking dice 652 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 3: because there are some places where you take that back 653 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 3: road and it is deliverance Central, and you're like, I 654 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 3: feel unsafe. 655 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 2: Immediately, let me turn this car around. But for the 656 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: most part, it's nice to just go. 657 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 3: And I feel like that's where a lot of the 658 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 3: better parts of the road trip come in, is when 659 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 3: you get off the beaten path and you kind of 660 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 3: just find find something that you like, you know, or 661 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 3: find a fucking farm stand that has the best pie 662 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 3: in the neighborhood, or you know, just it's just fun 663 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 3: to kind of see how people live and to really 664 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: get out in the world that way. 665 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: What is your favorite road trip snacks? 666 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: Or I see it like such a garbage monster. When 667 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 2: I'm on a road trip. It is disgusting. 668 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 3: And here's why, because I don't usually eat a lot 669 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: of fast food in my day to day life, so 670 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 3: when I'm traveling, it's kind of the only time I'm 671 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 3: pro into eating fast food. So if I'm an airport, 672 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, give me a fucking sausage, big muffin stat. 673 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 3: But when I'm on a road trip, it's like, give 674 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 3: me some fucking fries. I love a McDonald's apple pie. 675 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 3: This is not sponsored. I'm just telling you the truth. 676 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 3: I fucking love a seven eleven slushy. Mm hmm, give 677 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 3: me a fucking slushy so I can just put it 678 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 3: in that cup holder and no, I'm gonna have something 679 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: cold to drink for hours. 680 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: And this is truly disgusting and. 681 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 3: Only acceptable if you're on a road trip by yourself, 682 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 3: slim gyms, you will your car will be powered by farts. 683 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: But huh, it's a nice easy snack to just jam 684 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 3: on your fucking face while you got your hands on 685 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 3: the steering wheel. 686 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, I love combos. 687 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: Oh I love a gas station. 688 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: By the way, they got great Southern gas stations down here, 689 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: like stuckies. If you were from the South, y'all know 690 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: a stuckies. You gotta get that pecon roll or pecan 691 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: log or whatever they get whatever they have. Now they 692 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: actually have BUCkies down here, which I know is like 693 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: a Texas thing. 694 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 2: I think, are they gonna fight stuckies and BUCkies? See? 695 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: I actually feel like stuckies is kind of I have 696 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: seen less and less stuckies on the road. 697 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 2: Is BUCkies taking over stuckies? I mean, I don't want 698 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 2: to cause drama. 699 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to cause you know, any kind of 700 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: drama there, But there's a moment where I have counted 701 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: on my hand the BUCkies and they're more plentiful than 702 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: the Stuckies hand. 703 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying, Listeners, let us know 704 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: if you are aware of the Bucky Stuckies conspiracy. Please 705 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 2: let us know this is important. Somebody will. 706 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing more. There's people get real serious 707 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: about gas stations, and they get real serious about gas 708 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: station snacks. So I have a feeling we're gonna get tons. 709 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 2: And tons of mentions. 710 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: But absolutely I love so combos are like the salty 711 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: and sometimes a dorito, like a classic dorito, No cool rams, 712 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: just a regular nacho cheese. And then I gotta have 713 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: a sweet at some point, and I do like a 714 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: little deb like a little Debbie. Yeah. Sometimes when I'm 715 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: feeling like I have the crunchy salt and then I 716 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: need like the cakey sweet and I'll do like a 717 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: oatmeal cream pie or fudge round what have you? 718 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 2: So uh beautiful? Yeah, I can't. 719 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,720 Speaker 3: I can't stress enough that I am an actual garbage 720 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 3: person when I'm on the road, Like by the time 721 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 3: my car pulls in anywhere, you're like, has this bitch 722 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 3: been living in here for seventeen years or did she 723 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 3: just drive here from one state away? Like, I will 724 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 3: use any excuse if I'm on the road, that is 725 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 3: an excuse for me to eat like a fucking monster, 726 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 3: whether it's a two hours or twenty. 727 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean. 728 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: And that's the thing is that, like I drive now 729 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: to my parents in Florida, and it's about a seven 730 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: six and a half seven hour drive each time, and 731 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: I try, I fucking try to be that bitch that's like, 732 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: oh well, I have my little Bento box with my 733 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: carrots and my my hummus and my. 734 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 5: This and that. 735 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: No, man, I like, by the by hour two, I 736 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: ditch that healthy shit and I'm like, where's the BUCkies. 737 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 1: I gotta get some beaver nuggets where you like, where's 738 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: the slim gyms, where's my fucking log my roll, my 739 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: goo goo cluster whatever. It's like, I'm always just like, 740 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: you know, I want to think that I'm like healthier 741 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: than I am on the road, but it's it all. 742 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 2: Start Also, I don't. 743 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 3: I think that's part of the joy of being on 744 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 3: the road is that you're fucking free, Like you feel 745 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 3: free and you're like there are no rules right now 746 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 3: for the time that I am on this road and 747 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 3: I want to live free. 748 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 2: Live Moss. I look at a fucking fucking bag of 749 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 2: cinnamon twist because I'm living Moss while I'm on the road. 750 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, there's a part in your movie that the 751 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: two main characters are at the grocery store before they leave, 752 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: and they're just like throwing backs at chips and ship 753 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yes, how satisfying. Is this the shopping 754 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: before the road trip? 755 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: So wonderful. 756 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 3: I also, I also love I love a good rest area, 757 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 3: like I love a you know, like TA they kind 758 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 3: of try to. Yeah, they're kind of hit and miss, 759 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 3: you know, some of them are not so great. But 760 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 3: I love like a good local rest area. 761 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 762 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 3: And I also love a mega rest area where you're like, 763 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 3: oh fuck, they've got like every fast food they've got. 764 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 3: It's just like a conglomerate weirdo stand of every food possible. 765 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 2: And over the. 766 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: Travel center sometimes they call it the travel center and 767 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: there'll be a fucking like listen. The greatest combo, truly, 768 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: the greatest combo, if you can find it, is a 769 00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: Schlotsky's citabon. I've always seen it a few in my life. 770 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: But a Schlatsky sitabon is like the greatest combo of 771 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: shit ever. 772 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 2: That sounds like something to take a road trip for. 773 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 3: Yes, Like we're gonna go try to find a Schlatsky cinnabon. Also, 774 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 3: if you are mature enough to ever go to a 775 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 3: come and go kum and go without taking a picture 776 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 3: or making a joke, we cannot travel together. I cannot 777 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 3: tell you how many pictures I have of the Come 778 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 3: and Go over the years. 779 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 2: It is Say would they name it that? 780 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: Why would they name it that? 781 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 3: That's so crazy, fucking sick, perverse. I don't know who 782 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 3: is fucking running that company, but jobless? 783 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 2: And also how dare you? How dare you with a 784 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 2: come and Go? I'm too juvenile to ever let one 785 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 2: of those slide out of you one. 786 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: I like, I don't see them around here, but whenever 787 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: I see people take pictures of it on Instagram or whatever, 788 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't understand why they named a business 789 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: this is so it is just ripe for this, like 790 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: for photographs of like in people saying what the fuck? 791 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 2: So distracting. 792 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 3: Also, I didn't know until I started this is the 793 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 3: other beauty of road trips. Until I started taking road trips, 794 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 3: I didn't realize that Circle K was a real store. 795 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 3: I thought it was just something that they made up 796 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 3: for Bill and Tad. Circle K's are fucking real. 797 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's that's the thing here for sure. 798 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 2: That's like a discovery. I love a regional discovery. Now 799 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 2: I did too. 800 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: It's like I had heard the term wah wah for 801 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 1: so long and then finally there they put a wah 802 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: wah down where my parents live, and I'm like, fuck, 803 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: this is what they've been talking about. This is like 804 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,919 Speaker 1: what the prophecy is foretold, this fucking wah wah, which 805 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: I thought was a joke, like why would a business 806 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: be named wah wah? Of course, But then when they 807 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: when I finally saw it with my own eyes, I 808 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, now it makes sense. 809 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 2: And then you go in and you're like, all right, 810 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 2: it's a grocery store. 811 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 3: But you cannot say that to anyone from fucking Philly 812 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 3: or anywhere in Pennsylvania because they're. 813 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 2: Like, it's the greatest of all fucking possible stars. And 814 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 2: you're like, all right, man, I'll give it to you. 815 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 2: I will give it to you. 816 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 3: You literally do not ever try to engage someone from Pennsylvania. 817 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 2: About ahuah wah. I'm just for your own good. 818 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: I don't fuck with anybody from Philly period. I went 819 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: there once and I was like, Yo, these people. 820 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 2: Mean fucking business. I ain't fucking around with those folks. 821 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 2: Oh good, Philly man. They'll fuck you up. And I 822 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 2: love them for it. I love them for it. I 823 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: truly do. Also, I feel like the Pigley Wiggly people. 824 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 3: So I'm just imagining a convention, Like imagine like a 825 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 3: food convention and you're like, Hi, I'm John from the 826 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 3: Come and Go, Hi, I'm Ida from the Pigley Wiggily. 827 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Jabrown from fucking wah wah, Like, wh who's 828 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 2: naming these fucking places? 829 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Pickley Wiggly is definitely in my zone. 830 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,720 Speaker 1: When I was a little kid in living outside of Charleston, 831 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: South Carolina, there was a Pickley Wigglely on every corner. 832 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: I feel like, at least in Georgia, I don't think 833 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: that there is prevalent, but damn if I didn't make 834 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: fun of a Pickley Wiggly name all. 835 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 2: The time with my friends. 836 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 3: The East Coast in the South are like, we want 837 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 3: you to buy some food and also laugh. And then 838 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 3: you get out to the West coast and they're like, let's. 839 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 1: Go to Ralph's. 840 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 2: Go to fucking Ralphs. They are too busy to have 841 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 2: a whimsical name for a grocery store. Let's go to Gilson's. 842 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: Airwan ear airon Oh Lord. I used to actually like, 843 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you if you know them jeans 844 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 1: from the How Long Gone? Podcast? But he would fucking 845 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: make fun of me. He made fun of me on 846 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: their podcast for saying Airwan, like I said at Airwan 847 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: and he's like, what the fuck is Airwon? And I'm like, yeah, 848 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: over from Georgia, it's Airwan to me. So all I 849 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 1: know is they got twenty five dollars yogurt, and that's 850 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: all I know. 851 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, look a store that has the 852 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 2: fucking audacity to sell a fifty dollars pineapple, I'm gonna 853 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 2: call it whatever the fuck I want. The audacity of 854 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 2: that store is shocking. 855 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 3: They're like, here is some goat milk that we got 856 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 3: directly from the Himalayas, and that's why we're gonna charge 857 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 3: you ninety dollars an ounce and people are in line 858 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 3: for it. They're like, yo, so you put that in 859 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 3: my smoothie, because we also know you have a smoothie cotter. 860 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 3: I'll call that store whatever the fuck I want to 861 00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 3: call it. 862 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: Listen if you want to. I find something that is 863 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: the absolute opposite end of the spectrum from stuckies. 864 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 2: It's an airwand thank you. That's all I'm saying. Could 865 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 2: not be more polar opposite. Oh God, that story. It 866 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 2: makes me so mad to think about that store. Every 867 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 2: time I think of it, I just get angry because 868 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 2: I went in there. I've been in there twice and 869 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 2: both were under duress. Both times. I'm like, I just 870 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 2: need something to drink. I'm going in and Fiona Apple. 871 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 3: Is always there, and like it's like always like Fiona 872 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 3: Apple or Sam Rockwell, just like people who are famous 873 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 3: enough to be recognized, but you also know like I 874 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 3: should not fuck with them. Yeah, And they have overflowing carts, 875 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,439 Speaker 3: like full ass carts of ninety dollars goat milk. 876 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 2: And every time I go in there, they're always and 877 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 2: nobody wants to talk to me. 878 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,800 Speaker 3: And I'm like, if you have again the audacity to 879 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 3: charge me ten dollars for a pair, you better say 880 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 3: hello and include my middle name. When I walk in 881 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 3: the fucking door, you better have a dossier and I 882 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 3: approach the fucking loading dock. 883 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 1: Will I'm not gonna name names here, By the way, 884 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: I had a friend who lives in Atlanta who one 885 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,879 Speaker 1: time asked me to bring them a reusable shopping bag 886 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 1: from Airwan. Like they were like, can you bring like 887 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 1: as if I was going to buy them like duty 888 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: free alcohol or cigarettes. So it's like some kind of 889 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: like expensive gift. They're like, will you bring me a 890 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: reusable shopping bag from Ariwuan? Like as a gift? 891 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 2: And I'm like, are you fucking joking right now? 892 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 3: Like I mean hell though, Like can you go to 893 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 3: Beverly Hills and get me a Rolex Special Edition and 894 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 3: a bag from Airwe because they're the same fucking price. 895 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 3: I guarantee you could have pulled up to that person's 896 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,760 Speaker 3: house in a brand new Toyota and it would have cost. 897 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 2: Exactly as much as that fucking bag cost. 898 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 1: I mean not gonna lie I have, and I'm not 899 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: gonna lie I do flex like I'd got the whole 900 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: foods round here and be like, oh, I'm sorry, I 901 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 1: brought my ariwon back. Like, so I used to live 902 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: in La, used to shop there. 903 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, sod so mad. 904 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 3: I bet you didn't know that about me. I remember 905 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 3: we had an arawan fucking Thanksgiving one and it was 906 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 3: it was fine, it was great. This is after Millie's surgery, 907 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 3: her dad's there. I had some screeners and I'm like, 908 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 3: what are we doing with Thanksgiving? We washed vice and 909 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 3: we ate arawon and I guarantee you spent three hundred 910 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 3: dollars on a meal that fed the three of us. 911 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: No, lie, it was almost that much. And like for 912 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: for some fucking steamed asparagus. 913 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 3: I know that no leftovers, no Thanksgiving leftovers. So like, 914 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 3: how about you give us half your fucking paycheck. You 915 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,360 Speaker 3: can feed two people and you don't get anymore. 916 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 2: That's it. 917 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 3: We have specially bathed and pluck this fucking turkey. The 918 00:47:55,120 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 3: turkey had a cosmic spiritual experience prior to being killed. 919 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 3: It was blessed by a fucking Dalai Lama. 920 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 1: These sashed potatoes had their chakras aligned before they enter 921 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: your bloodstream. 922 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely, oh oh my god, the buyer listen, I did 923 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:15,320 Speaker 3: know that about you? 924 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 2: I did. 925 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: I mean, look, come on, how could you, How could 926 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,720 Speaker 1: you not hate Irwan? 927 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 2: How could you not hate it? Come on, I know 928 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 2: you a little bit better than Matt. 929 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 3: I defy anyone who grew up on welfare or ate 930 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 3: taco shells as a snack, like plain taco shells as 931 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 3: a snack. 932 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 2: You will never see my ass at a fucking grocery 933 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,280 Speaker 2: store like that after. 934 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,879 Speaker 3: That experience, like, you need to get a big old 935 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 3: doser reality. If that's your weekly shop, look, go every 936 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 3: once in a while, treat yourself. You want the pomegranate 937 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 3: juice that is ninety dollars and you think it's gonna 938 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 3: heal you, and maybe it will. Maybe it'll fix your hangovers, 939 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 3: maybe it'll get rid of covid, it'll clear up some 940 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 3: fucking chlamydia. 941 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 2: I don't know. Drink that pomegranate juice once, God him 942 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 2: if you need to. But you will not see me 943 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 2: in those goddamn stores. I will go to Ralphs, Ralphs. 944 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 2: I'd go to Ralphs eighteen times one day before I 945 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 2: went to Erewon once. Yeah. Uh, I didn't know I 946 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 2: had this rage in me. 947 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 3: And we're just talking about something lovely, which is road 948 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 3: trip snacks, which I fucking love. 949 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,280 Speaker 1: I would almost think it was. I mean, if somebody 950 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 1: brought an erewon like microbiotic, fucking snacky snack on a 951 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: road trip, I'd be like, wow. 952 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,879 Speaker 2: You fancy, Like how much did that show? 953 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: How much did you drop forty bucks on that little 954 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 1: bag of pressols or whatever? 955 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 2: Like? 956 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 3: There is absolutely there is no speed gun on the 957 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 3: planet that could clock how fast I would kick that 958 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 3: person out of my like, roll them out of my car. 959 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 2: No speed gun can stop can catch me. Oh my god. 960 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: I feel sorry for anybody that has no fucking idea 961 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. Like this, we're talking about some 962 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: La shit. We apologize for that. We know a lot 963 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 1: of you don't live in LA, but you just have 964 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: to know there's a fancy ass grocery store there, and 965 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 1: it's a very polarizing place. 966 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 2: So it's a scam. It's a scam. 967 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 3: I guarantee in ten years it's gonna be like, oh 968 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 3: my god, the airwine people fucking donated to Halliburton and 969 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 3: they create weapons of war. 970 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 2: I would not be surprised. It is a scam. 971 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 3: But also, just you know, apply this conversation to any 972 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 3: overwhelmingly expensive grocery store in. 973 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 2: Your town exactly. Everyone's got one. 974 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 1: It can apply. But listen, I feel like these movies 975 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: are great. I have not seen your movie in a while. 976 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:40,879 Speaker 2: M ooh. 977 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 1: I can't wait for you to get into it because 978 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 1: you're going first and have fun this summer. If you're 979 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: going on a road trip, let us know. Send us 980 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 1: an email, you know, but we're gonna talk about some 981 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,879 Speaker 1: road trip movies today. 982 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, send us those pictures of the come and 983 00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,919 Speaker 3: go in the Pigley Wiggly well my family for our 984 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 3: theme of the summer. Road Trip was released in two 985 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 3: thousand and one. It was directed by Alfonso Quiron and 986 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 3: the screenplay is by Carlos Quarte and Alfonso Quarone. 987 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 2: My movie is youtu Mama tambien. 988 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: From this day on, whats These are the rules, the 989 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: only rules. 990 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 2: One do whatever you like. Ooh ooh, f sot. 991 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: What a hot film. 992 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 3: I have also not seen this film in a very 993 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 3: long time. And you might laugh at me when I 994 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 3: say this next sentence, but it is completely true. I 995 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 3: absolutely forgot how horny this movie was. Oh my god, 996 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 3: me too, holy shit, shocked, scandalized. 997 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 1: Listen, I watched it in the same house where my 998 00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 1: family is currently staying with me. They're on the other 999 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: side of the house. 1000 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 2: They're asleep. 1001 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm watching this movie on my iPad alone, and I 1002 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 1: was like flustered, Like I was like, oh my god, 1003 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm watching some contraband shit, Like 1004 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: can I watch this in the same house as my 1005 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 1: sister and my little nephews. I'm like, this is crazy. 1006 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: This movie be absolute too hot for TV. 1007 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 2: It was too hot for TV. And I forgot. I'm like, 1008 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 2: how did I blank this out? Yeah, of my mind 1009 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,399 Speaker 2: when I saw it the first time. 1010 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 3: But I was also I just love the story so 1011 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 3: much that I'm like, ah, the sex is secondary. 1012 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 2: It is not secondary? Is the fucking movie the entire 1013 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 2: damn thing? Oh Yeah. 1014 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: That that I actually did forget is that it's just 1015 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: the constant conversation in the film, right exactly. 1016 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:45,839 Speaker 2: It's not right. 1017 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 3: It's not just the like what's happening on the screen 1018 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 3: is that they're constantly talking about it. 1019 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I and I don't I'm not. 1020 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 1: Being a prude saying any of this. I don't know 1021 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 1: if you are, but I'm just saying that, like, it 1022 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 1: is that interesting thing where you're like, Wow, this entire 1023 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 1: movie is about sex. And I remember at the time 1024 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,760 Speaker 1: that I saw it, I was like, honestly just completely 1025 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 1: floored by it because I had never seen a movie 1026 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 1: like this before. I knew little to nothing about like 1027 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:19,320 Speaker 1: Mexican cinema, Like I was very like uneducated about. You know, 1028 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,240 Speaker 1: at that time, I think there was other Mexican films 1029 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 1: coming to the surface, and there's obviously been Mexican directors 1030 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,800 Speaker 1: in the past, but for some reason, this is just 1031 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 1: like a bullet It just like got right into my 1032 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: brain and I was like, holy fuck, what is this movie? 1033 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:34,800 Speaker 1: This is insane? 1034 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 3: Same, yes, I didn't know anything about Alfonso Quiron at 1035 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 3: that point, and like this is a movie that introduced 1036 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 3: him to a lot of people. And you know, he 1037 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 3: went on to do to do like he had done 1038 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,280 Speaker 3: The Little Princess prior to this, but he directed Roma, 1039 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 3: he directed Children of Men, like he's he's had a 1040 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 3: really great and interesting career since this movie was released. 1041 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 3: But I will say he's he's I didn't know this, 1042 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 3: so I was doing research about this little film here 1043 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:08,320 Speaker 3: he signed a petition in support of Roman Polanski and 1044 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 3: I can't believe that Shitoo, where's gonna let that sit there? 1045 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 3: But this film is so horny. 1046 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, I've got I've got a one sentence. 1047 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 2: I tried it. 1048 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 1: Let's go. 1049 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 2: I tried it, all right, here's my one sentence synopsis. 1050 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 3: Two unstoppably horny teenage boys are forced to confront the 1051 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 3: deepest parts of themselves during a road trip with a 1052 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 3: cousin who enters their life through marriage. 1053 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 2: That is good. That is fucking good. I tried it. 1054 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 2: I tried it. 1055 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 4: Now. 1056 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 2: I feel like. 1057 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 3: The main character of main characters of this film are 1058 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 3: incredibly cast, incredibly well cast. So you have Diego Luna 1059 00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 3: plays to Notch Gayel Garcia Bernald plays Julio, and Marabelle 1060 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:09,720 Speaker 3: there Du plays Luisa. And the premise of the film 1061 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 3: is they set up the teen boynous of it, like 1062 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 3: right off the bat. And when I tell you that 1063 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 3: as someone who has recently watched and rewatched Narcos Mexico, 1064 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 3: in which Diego Luna stars, he looks like an actual 1065 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 3: fucking baby in this movie. And it's a little disturbing. 1066 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, like baby, fat, tiny, little Diego Luna. Oh my god. 1067 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 2: And he is the rich child. 1068 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 3: He's a child of wealth, his parents, his father's politician 1069 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 3: and he's kind of a he's a total brat. He's 1070 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 3: just a total brat, and he's best friends with Julio. 1071 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 3: Julio has a single mom and comes from a totally 1072 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 3: different economic situation, but what connects them is just their 1073 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 3: rampant teen boyness. So like the public pool, for example, 1074 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,720 Speaker 3: closes down on Monday, but to know she is allowed 1075 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,720 Speaker 3: to go in because his dad's got connects. 1076 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 2: And so they go into the. 1077 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 3: Pool and they swim, and they race, and then they 1078 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 3: jerk off next to each other on diving boards. Like 1079 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,240 Speaker 3: teen boys are just like that, I guess. 1080 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of goes back to I swear 1081 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 1: to god, what was it like her first or second 1082 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 1: episode where we talked about foot cigarettes and it has 1083 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: like taking baths with your friends, and I remember you 1084 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 1: and I were like, we never did that? 1085 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 2: Do we ever? Not naked friends? I was not a 1086 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 2: naked friend. 1087 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 1: So this is I mean, obviously, so many steps beyond 1088 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: a simple bath with your friend. 1089 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 2: I can't like. 1090 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 1: I was like, when that part of the movie happened, 1091 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 1: I completely forgot I completely forgot it, and I was like, 1092 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 1: totally shit, dude, that's I can't imagine. I cannot imagine. 1093 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 3: But that's also kind of like the I think the 1094 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 3: reason that this film really rocketed into people's brains and 1095 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,359 Speaker 3: like it was such an indie hit and it such 1096 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,360 Speaker 3: a well received film, and I think that's part of 1097 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 3: it is you're showing things very viscerally that filmmakers hadn't 1098 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 3: really shown before in a way that wasn't directly pornographic. Yes, 1099 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 3: And so he's telling the story of this boy's friendship 1100 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 3: and they are just like they're high all the time, 1101 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 3: they're drunk, they're lazy. They have these two girlfriends that 1102 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 3: they're kind of not great boyfriends too, and they're just 1103 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 3: kind of hanging out and waiting for life to happen 1104 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 3: to them. So we meet them at a point where 1105 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 3: they are going to a wedding, and this is where 1106 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 3: they meet Luisa. So Tinoach's cousin Yano, is married to Luisa, 1107 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 3: but they don't know that. They just see this hot 1108 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 3: lady at a wedding and they sidle on up and 1109 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 3: they're like, Yo, how's it going, And just their approach 1110 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 3: to her, like they're kind of like crowding her physically, 1111 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 3: like they just truly are so teen boyish about it, 1112 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 3: like they just have no concept of of physical space 1113 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 3: or like how to be kind, like just selfish. They're 1114 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 3: just so selfish and weird, and that it's kind of funny, 1115 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 3: Like it's kind of funny how weird they are, Yeah, 1116 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 3: so strange. So they meet Luisa and she's like, yeah, 1117 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 3: married to your fucking cousin. 1118 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 2: What's up? 1119 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 3: And they kind of lie and say that they're going 1120 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 3: on a road trip to a beach and that she 1121 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 3: should join them, and that lie turns into a real 1122 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 3: trip when she calls them after finding out that Yano 1123 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 3: has cheated on her, and Yano has called her drunk 1124 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 3: and crying and is like, oh, I slept with someone. 1125 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 2: This is the worst. She starts crying, but then she 1126 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 2: just leaves their apartment and she's just like pace. She decides. 1127 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 3: She decides then in there to leave him, and she 1128 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 3: calls to Notes and she's like, I would like to 1129 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 3: go with you on this road trip and he's like, 1130 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 3: fuck now, I got to scramble to put together this 1131 00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 3: road trip. Yeah, and he you this is you know, 1132 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 3: he has an old car that his dad gave him. 1133 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 3: Picks up Julio and again we see that wonderful grocery 1134 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 3: store scene where they're just throwing everything they can think 1135 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 3: of in the cart and they pick up Luisa uh 1136 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 3: and she well, first they go to their friend's Saba, 1137 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 3: who's a trip Saba is a fucking burnout. And this 1138 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 3: is back in the day where like again, cell phones no, 1139 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 3: So they're like, can you help us find a fucking 1140 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,439 Speaker 3: beach to take a road trip to? And they're looking 1141 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 3: at paper maps trying to figure it out with this burnout? 1142 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: Did you have a Saba in your group? 1143 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:36,160 Speaker 2: Like was there? 1144 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 1: Did you know a Saba? 1145 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 2: Of course, of course I do. Like three Sabas. Basically, 1146 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 2: oh my god. The Sabas were NonStop, Like half of 1147 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 2: them ended up taking weird acid that like affected them 1148 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 2: for the rest of their life. So I get nineteen. 1149 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,439 Speaker 2: They were just done with life and you're like, wait, what, yes, 1150 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 2: well our sawa us take the. 1151 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,720 Speaker 3: Weird acid always always. But he helps them and he's like, 1152 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 3: all right, I'll find a fucking place. So she shows 1153 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 3: up and is like, let's fucking go. And then this 1154 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,880 Speaker 3: is so at the start of this road trip, they're 1155 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 3: basically driving a few days to get to this beach 1156 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 3: called Heaven's Mouth, which they've completely made up like they 1157 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 3: do not know what exists. 1158 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 2: They've completely made it up. 1159 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 3: But the scenes in the car are the point of 1160 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 3: the movie, right, So you're seeing most of their humanity, 1161 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,680 Speaker 3: You're hearing most of their discussions, You're seeing most of 1162 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,960 Speaker 3: their uncomfortableness and their cockiness. 1163 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 2: It's in the road trip. 1164 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 3: And I will say for Luisa's Luisa's fascinating and she 1165 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 3: is incredibly provocative. Yeah, so she will like straight out 1166 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 3: directly ask them like how many girls have you fucked? 1167 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 2: How do you fuck your girlfriends? 1168 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,920 Speaker 3: Like she's just interested in their sex lives. Yeah, and 1169 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 3: they are ready to tell her, like completely, But the 1170 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 3: teen boyess of it is like they're high all the time. 1171 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 3: They're bragging about trying moves from the Kamma Sutra, which 1172 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 3: if that guy enters your life, fucking run. 1173 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 2: I don't look. 1174 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't think the Kama Sutra has ever been uttered 1175 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: by a grown ass person. I feel like the only 1176 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: people that ever invoke that are teenagers because it's like 1177 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 1: the only thing that they know. They think it's like 1178 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: some elevated way to like have sex or something, And 1179 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, I don't I've never even 1180 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 1: heard of that term. Once after twenty. 1181 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 2: Five or something. 1182 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 3: Ever, Ever, no one's referencing a book to fuck after 1183 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 3: twenty five, so true, Like ahm, so they are like, yeah, 1184 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 3: like we know Kama Sutra and they're like they have 1185 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 3: a manifesto that they came up with with Saba and 1186 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 3: it's got like eleven weird rules, like it's just so 1187 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 3: teen boyenous. 1188 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, they call themselves the challo Lostras. 1189 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 2: Is that what the names are, the charo lostros, which 1190 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 2: is like a fuck they someone fucked up the pronunciation 1191 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 2: of something while they were singing a song and they 1192 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 2: just lashed onto it as like that's what we're called. Yeah. 1193 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, like they've got like a very childish approach 1194 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 3: to life and you know they And there's also which 1195 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 3: should be said, there's a narrator to this film, and 1196 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 3: the person who narrates the film is Danielle Jimenez got Kacho, 1197 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 3: and he gives so much more flavor because it's not 1198 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 3: your typical narration of and then they went here you 1199 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 3: will meet characters in the course of this road trip 1200 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 3: that he explains what happens to them and the rest 1201 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 3: of their life. So you're meeting people and that's kind 1202 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 3: of again, like I thought was really interesting and a 1203 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 3: cool way to do it, because when you are on 1204 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 3: road trips, you do meet people that you never see 1205 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 3: again and you're like, I wonder what happened to them? 1206 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 3: And he just kind of spells it out. And they're 1207 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 3: road tripping through all these small towns. So it's like 1208 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 3: a lot of trauma, a lot of funerals, a lot 1209 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 3: of but then also a lot of joy and a 1210 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 3: lot of like you know, like children's parties and consigneras 1211 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,959 Speaker 3: and like it's it's true slice of life road trip 1212 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 3: that you get when you go through the backgrounds. 1213 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:14,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1214 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the and and also the the narrator points 1215 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 3: out things about to Notch and Julio, like to Notch 1216 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 3: lifts up the seat when he goes to the bathroom 1217 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 3: at Julio's house, and Julio lights a match because he 1218 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,560 Speaker 3: doesn't want anyone at to Knowch's house to know he's 1219 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,800 Speaker 3: been in there. So they're like these again, like these 1220 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 3: class differences that are discussed in a very interesting way. 1221 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 3: And Luisa, for her part, is she's not just like 1222 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 3: you know, peace yano. She is crying all the time, Yeah, 1223 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:49,440 Speaker 3: non stop crying in this film, and these teen boys 1224 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 3: do not give a fuck, like she is going through 1225 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 3: it and they're just like, is she gonna take her 1226 01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:01,480 Speaker 3: clothes off? Like they're both to fuck her so actively 1227 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 3: that they don't even care that she's in an emotional crisis, 1228 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 3: and we think it's because of her marriage. 1229 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 2: Later in the movie becomes clear that it's something else. 1230 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, I so when this movie came out, I 1231 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 1: was twenty one, twenty two, twenty, I don't know, and 1232 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:27,320 Speaker 1: I sensed that these guys were like just useful stone 1233 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 1: dummies then, but fast forward to watching it now, I'm like, wow, 1234 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 1: Like we talk a lot about like perspective from you know, 1235 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 1: a very far off age, like you look at yourself 1236 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 1: from like twenty years ago, and you're like, fuck, I 1237 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 1: was a disaster. It really hit home to me. 1238 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 2: Just how. 1239 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:57,320 Speaker 1: How kind of young and self obsessed they were and 1240 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:04,600 Speaker 1: just stupid, like no concept of anybody else other than themselves, 1241 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,800 Speaker 1: meaning not even each other. I think a lot of times, yes, 1242 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 1: which plays out obviously in a lot of different scenes 1243 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 1: when they're like kind of arguing on the trip and 1244 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,120 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But it's that thing where I'm like, man, 1245 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 1: you couldn't pay me to be young again for so 1246 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 1: many reasons. But this it's like this kind of stuff, 1247 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 1: like having like no intuition about anything. You're just like, 1248 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 1: what the fuck, Like these that don't really live it 1249 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,040 Speaker 1: just for themselves and for the moment, they don't think 1250 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:30,880 Speaker 1: about anything. 1251 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 2: Else, and there's such a distinct freedom to that. 1252 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 3: But then when you look at it as it's held up, 1253 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 3: which is film does, when you look at it as 1254 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,960 Speaker 3: it's held up as a lens to the rest of 1255 01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 3: the world, you're like, these kids are fucking clueless, and 1256 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:44,920 Speaker 3: they're so lucky to be so clueless. 1257 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I you know, and obviously I think that's 1258 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 1: that's maybe what Luisa season them is that she wishes 1259 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 1: that she could be more that right, that she doesn't 1260 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 1: have these kind of like grown up hang ups and 1261 01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 1: this drama. She just wants to be that free and 1262 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, no fucks given about stuff. 1263 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:08,000 Speaker 3: Completely completely, and she's trying to access it by really 1264 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 3: pushing them to do what this this carelessness that they have, 1265 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:18,200 Speaker 3: she's pushing them to the max of carelessness. And you know, 1266 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 3: their girlfriends are both the way in Italy for the summer. 1267 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,320 Speaker 3: She knows that she's again like talking to them being 1268 01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 3: very provocative, but in between, like and all their rest stops, 1269 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,320 Speaker 3: she kind of calls and leaves like very teary messages 1270 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 3: for her her husband, and she's just she's in a 1271 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 3: very different place from them in this film. And I 1272 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 3: paid way more attention to her than I did to them. Well, 1273 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,440 Speaker 3: I paid attention to them too, obviously, but I was 1274 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 3: very I was more fascinated by her story than I 1275 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 3: was the first time I saw this. Yes, and let 1276 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,960 Speaker 3: me tell you that she's not just being provocative for 1277 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,040 Speaker 3: the sake of it. She absolutely fucks both of them. 1278 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 3: So she starts with to notch and she gives to 1279 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,800 Speaker 3: not to blowjob, and they fuck, and Julio sees it, 1280 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,640 Speaker 3: and he can't explain why he's feeling like, I think 1281 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,560 Speaker 3: the way that the narrator describes it as like, you know, 1282 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,160 Speaker 3: his stomach hurts in a way that never hurt before. 1283 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 3: But he feels betrayed, and he feels like, you know, 1284 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 3: Luisa is his cousin by Mary's cousin by marriage, so 1285 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 3: if anyone was gonna fuck her, it should have been Julio, 1286 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 3: who has like no connection to her, no relation to her. 1287 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 3: So he's feeling betrayed. And there's this scene where they 1288 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:31,120 Speaker 3: swim and you know, Toochu usually beats him at everything, 1289 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 3: kind of lets Julio win. And I'm telling you, these 1290 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 3: these these two are so self absorbed that like all 1291 01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,080 Speaker 3: Julio sees is that to know, fuck Luisa. What he 1292 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 3: doesn't see or seem to take in at all is 1293 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:51,320 Speaker 3: that is really bad at sex. Like he's like, comes 1294 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 3: in a second, he doesn't pay attention to her at all. 1295 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:55,920 Speaker 2: He's so bad at it. 1296 01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 3: But Julio's in a different place and he's like pissed 1297 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 3: and trade. So after they have this swim match, he says, 1298 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,960 Speaker 3: by the way, I fucked your girlfriend once, and this 1299 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 3: starts an absolute fucking meltdown. 1300 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolute meltdown. And to note, just like he wants 1301 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 2: to know everything. He's like, what the fuck? How dare you? 1302 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,000 Speaker 2: What kind of underwear was she wearing? Like what kind 1303 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 2: of dress was she wearing? He is just. 1304 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,240 Speaker 3: In a horrible place, even though he treats his girlfriend 1305 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:33,320 Speaker 3: so poorly. Yeah, and just fuck someone else? Yeah again 1306 01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 3: teen boys. 1307 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean that's like the whole It's 1308 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 1: just it's just exactly like I said, I'm like you 1309 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 1: couldn't pay me to be. They were so clueless about themselves. 1310 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 1: They like they think that they're the best at sex 1311 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:46,960 Speaker 1: that ever happened. I think they were like the two 1312 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,040 Speaker 1: biggest studs on planet Earth. They're super competitive with each other, 1313 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 1: right Like, because let's get serious, I mean, the whole 1314 01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 1: reason why either of them give a shit about either 1315 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,680 Speaker 1: one of them fucking Lisa is because they want to 1316 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:07,440 Speaker 1: compete with each other, like they're absolutely and she recognizes 1317 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,080 Speaker 1: that at a certain point, right. 1318 01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and instigates it and instigates it and yeah. 1319 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,760 Speaker 3: And there's also like the class thing kind of comes 1320 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,720 Speaker 3: into play there too, because wins it everything, like he's 1321 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,600 Speaker 3: winning it life in a way that Julio is not 1322 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,679 Speaker 3: winning it life. Yeah, and the class thing also comes 1323 01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 3: into play heavily after this argument, because the things that 1324 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,639 Speaker 3: Tonosh's leveling at Julio are all about like how he's 1325 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 3: a pig and he's poor, and like he goes to 1326 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,280 Speaker 3: the nastiest place possible when they're fighting about the fact 1327 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,599 Speaker 3: that Julio fucked his girlfriend. So it's not like from 1328 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,519 Speaker 3: a place of we're friends and I'm mad, it's like, 1329 01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,400 Speaker 3: I fucking hate you. You're disgusting. 1330 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 2: You're beneath me? How dare you touch my girlfriend? 1331 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, even though it's later revealed that to Nosch's father, 1332 01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,720 Speaker 1: who is this like powerful politician, guy's actually like a 1333 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:03,280 Speaker 1: fucking crook. And you know, and at certain points like 1334 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 1: has maybe like participated in some like unsavory business and 1335 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,680 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, And so that gets leveled at 1336 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,600 Speaker 1: to notes at a certain point because I feel like 1337 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:18,320 Speaker 1: over a certain period of time, that class dynamic has 1338 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,120 Speaker 1: to like rite itself, like where Julio feels like, well, 1339 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,479 Speaker 1: fuck it, dude, you're calling me like this poor kid, 1340 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,880 Speaker 1: what about you? You're a fucking a yuppy piece of 1341 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 1: shit and your dad is a crook. 1342 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,720 Speaker 3: Right absolutely, Like you had to leave the country for 1343 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,200 Speaker 3: a year because your dad was such a crook. 1344 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:34,240 Speaker 2: Yeah he is. 1345 01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,600 Speaker 3: He's definitely given it as good as he gets, especially 1346 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:42,120 Speaker 3: when Chines tells him, Hey, Julio, I fucked your girlfriend. 1347 01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 1: Oh god. 1348 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,879 Speaker 3: And this is the point where I'm like, whatever connects 1349 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,040 Speaker 3: teen boys in friendship? 1350 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 2: Like how do they even make it through? Because they're 1351 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 2: so selfish? 1352 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 1: Weed we we weed in like good times. I Mean, 1353 01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 1: it's truly a mystery to me because I because as 1354 01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,639 Speaker 1: I used to hang out with, you know, guys their 1355 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,479 Speaker 1: age when I was their age, right, you know, it's 1356 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,479 Speaker 1: like in your early twenties or maybe late teens, there's 1357 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,880 Speaker 1: always guys and girls around, and everybody's kind of like 1358 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,840 Speaker 1: single and hanging out and partying and stuff. And I'm like, yeah, like, 1359 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 1: how come like these guys like truly, there is no 1360 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,960 Speaker 1: like connection beyond sort of just partying and like making 1361 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,320 Speaker 1: each other laugh. You know, it's just that thing where 1362 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:29,040 Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, this is weird. But you know, maybe 1363 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,400 Speaker 1: it's because I'm I'm a different I have stronger bonds. 1364 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 3: In my life, but you know, it's just it's wild 1365 01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,479 Speaker 3: because I'm like I truly I hope that it has 1366 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,559 Speaker 3: changed for the better for teen boys and they being 1367 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,160 Speaker 3: able to tap into something a little. 1368 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 2: More sound and lasting. But this, this movie still just 1369 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:47,960 Speaker 2: rocks my world. 1370 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,600 Speaker 3: When I realized that they're just so selfish and just 1371 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,800 Speaker 3: so they're hanging on by a thread, Like the thing 1372 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:58,040 Speaker 3: that connects them is their proximity to each other, and 1373 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,720 Speaker 3: that's not enough to sustain a relationship. So now they're 1374 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 3: in it like they're like they've each fucked each other's 1375 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:07,479 Speaker 3: girlfriends and Luisa's fucking had it. She's like, she actually 1376 01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:08,960 Speaker 3: says a line that I love where she says, if 1377 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,040 Speaker 3: you hang out with babies, you have to change their diapers, 1378 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:13,880 Speaker 3: and she takes her bags and she's like peace out. 1379 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,880 Speaker 3: But during this argument, she also points out something very interesting, 1380 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,479 Speaker 3: which is basically, you guys should just fuck each other 1381 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,080 Speaker 3: and get it over with because I think that's. 1382 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 2: What you really want to do. Yeah. 1383 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,400 Speaker 3: So again she's being so provocative and they can't hear it, 1384 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,599 Speaker 3: Like they can't hear it because they're just fighting too much. 1385 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, Like so she eventually gets back in the 1386 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 3: car and they're in rural Mexico and they go to 1387 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 3: this beach and you know, they end up getting the 1388 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 3: car stuck at night on this road, and when they 1389 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,799 Speaker 3: wake up in the morning, they're at this like beautiful 1390 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:52,560 Speaker 3: private beach and Luisa runs into the water and she 1391 01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,120 Speaker 3: kind of comes up with her own manifesto in order 1392 01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 3: to like get back in the car, which is hilarious. 1393 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,040 Speaker 3: So they're all kind of separate at this point, like 1394 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,240 Speaker 3: they're all kind of like they're having their own experience 1395 01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,760 Speaker 3: on this beach. But this boat pulls up with this dude, 1396 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 3: Chewy and his family, and he's like, I will absolutely 1397 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,400 Speaker 3: give you a tour of all the stunning beaches around 1398 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 3: here tomorrow. 1399 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,960 Speaker 2: So they sleep on the beach, they camp out, they 1400 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:19,840 Speaker 2: go out with Chewy. 1401 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:24,200 Speaker 3: They actually find Heaven's Mouth the beach, and it is 1402 01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,400 Speaker 3: when they come back for the evening, this is so funny, 1403 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,760 Speaker 3: like a crew of wild pigs have just torn their 1404 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,120 Speaker 3: fucking camp up. So Chewey's like, all right, why don't 1405 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,320 Speaker 3: you just come back with my family, Like you can 1406 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,360 Speaker 3: stay with us and you could take a shower and. 1407 01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 2: Just like chill. So this is where the movie. 1408 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,280 Speaker 3: Kind of fulfills its mission. Yeah, based on the title, 1409 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 3: and if you don't want to know how the movie ends, 1410 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:52,640 Speaker 3: fast forward a little bit. 1411 01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,840 Speaker 2: I'm not going to spoil the actual ending, but i 1412 01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:57,640 Speaker 2: will tell you that. 1413 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:04,760 Speaker 3: The all of the emotional catharsis all of the confessions. 1414 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,120 Speaker 3: All this days and days of being in a car 1415 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,800 Speaker 3: talking about sex leads to to Notch and Julio having 1416 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:18,599 Speaker 3: a threesome with Luisa. And what's insinuated during this threesome 1417 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,760 Speaker 3: is that to Notch in Julio actually do fuck each other. 1418 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,639 Speaker 1: Mm hmm mm hmm. 1419 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:30,920 Speaker 3: And so this is a movie that it lives up 1420 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:36,080 Speaker 3: to the sexiness that's been laying down along the way. 1421 01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:41,439 Speaker 3: But right before this scene when they're getting drunk on 1422 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:46,320 Speaker 3: the beach at this little beach bar, Julio confesses that 1423 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 3: he is also fucked to Noach his mother, and then 1424 01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:55,240 Speaker 3: they have a threesome after this. Yeah, so it's like 1425 01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,320 Speaker 3: again this Catharsis that happens, and it's so wild to 1426 01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 3: see because you don't see the threesome, like they fully 1427 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,280 Speaker 3: cut away. Yeah, and you deal with the emotional aftermath 1428 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,599 Speaker 3: of it, which I think is a really smart choice. 1429 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:15,840 Speaker 1: Yes, this, I think the whole end of the film 1430 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:20,360 Speaker 1: in this way is it does fulfill the mission of 1431 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:24,680 Speaker 1: the film. It's also like kind of I think a 1432 01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,680 Speaker 1: lot of like what ends up being actually sexy and 1433 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 1: maybe sensual about the film because before. 1434 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:33,200 Speaker 2: That you're just watching like. 1435 01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:39,439 Speaker 1: Two idiots essentially not know what they're doing when it 1436 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:43,200 Speaker 1: comes to women. Right. Yes, but there is this moment 1437 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:47,960 Speaker 1: where you're like, Okay, well they seem to be out 1438 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,439 Speaker 1: of their bullshit in a small way, like they're not 1439 01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,680 Speaker 1: being like the Beavis and Budhead bullshit of like check 1440 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,880 Speaker 1: out this hot cheek and like we're so drunk and 1441 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,800 Speaker 1: I can't wait to you know, blah blah blah. They 1442 01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,519 Speaker 1: kind of like feel they kind kind of make a 1443 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:07,120 Speaker 1: little adjustment to the situation, and I was like, you know, okay, 1444 01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:11,720 Speaker 1: like maybe they have learned a few things. 1445 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,000 Speaker 2: Or whatever, but they've grown up a little bit. 1446 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:21,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's interesting to without giving away the ending 1447 01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,519 Speaker 1: as sort of like what the fallout of everything was. 1448 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:30,840 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, because there's something that happens. Everything that happens 1449 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:35,200 Speaker 3: after this was very unexpected to me, but it makes 1450 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,000 Speaker 3: sense that this is the way it would go. And 1451 01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 3: then you also learned something about Luisa that really solidifies 1452 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,960 Speaker 3: her choices throughout this film and makes her a much 1453 01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,160 Speaker 3: more sympathetic character and a much more understandable character. And 1454 01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,360 Speaker 3: I think it takes real art and grace to kind 1455 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:55,799 Speaker 3: of give that to a character after watching them behave 1456 01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,200 Speaker 3: kind of recklessly throughout a film, to give them a 1457 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:03,200 Speaker 3: reason why. So yeah, I just I think it's it's 1458 01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,400 Speaker 3: such a great road trip movie because of what it 1459 01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,879 Speaker 3: showcases while they're on the road, the conversations, the feeling 1460 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,960 Speaker 3: of like being with your friends and again that freedom. 1461 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,879 Speaker 3: But it's also a really tender and strange and sexy 1462 01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,160 Speaker 3: story about friendship. 1463 01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree. 1464 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,400 Speaker 1: And like I, like I said, I think I was 1465 01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:28,040 Speaker 1: like I had not remembered that there was all of 1466 01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,360 Speaker 1: what it was like with that content, with that kind 1467 01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,160 Speaker 1: of sexual content. I was like, oh my god, I forgot, 1468 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:39,880 Speaker 1: Like this is NonStop. But I do think that I 1469 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 1: definitely was kind of more invested in the Louisa story 1470 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,320 Speaker 1: this time. And that's just because I'm older and I 1471 01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,720 Speaker 1: connect with her more. I will say that when I 1472 01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:54,600 Speaker 1: first saw the movie, I was like I assumed that 1473 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,679 Speaker 1: they were in their twenties. I don't actually know how 1474 01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,799 Speaker 1: old they are. I feel like maybe like Kyle Garcia 1475 01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:02,920 Speaker 1: is like our age. I don't know, Yeah, I think they. 1476 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,240 Speaker 2: Both kind of our age. 1477 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:05,880 Speaker 3: Like I think they were in their twenties when they 1478 01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,639 Speaker 3: made it, but they were like they looked like babies. 1479 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,760 Speaker 1: Yes, And I was taken back to the time when 1480 01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:16,640 Speaker 1: like when Guile Garcia Bernald came onto the scene, like 1481 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,880 Speaker 1: between Morris Paros and this movie, he was like every 1482 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,559 Speaker 1: girl I knew had a crush on him. Anybody who 1483 01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,360 Speaker 1: loved men loved him. 1484 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,040 Speaker 2: And I don't know if you've seen him recently, like 1485 01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:38,280 Speaker 2: gray with that face like a fine wine. Yeah, like 1486 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,120 Speaker 2: a fine wine. Although I gotta say between the two, 1487 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:46,559 Speaker 2: Diego Luna looking much more uh up my alley lately. Yeah, 1488 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,559 Speaker 2: he's more of my type now because we like him old. 1489 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,680 Speaker 1: Come on, I love this is all the time. We 1490 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,280 Speaker 1: like him old, like he's old. 1491 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,880 Speaker 3: Now he's kind of tall and lanky and like he's 1492 01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,400 Speaker 3: got the facial he's very very cute now. 1493 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it so I he had like like in 1494 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,719 Speaker 1: the in the film, Guyle had that hair that kind. 1495 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,560 Speaker 2: Of like britt Pop that is hair, Britpop hair, and 1496 01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,879 Speaker 2: then they're listening to brit Pop in the car. 1497 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,680 Speaker 1: And you're like, oh my god, Yeah this was I 1498 01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 1: was taken back to a time when this movie came out. 1499 01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:19,680 Speaker 1: I was so happy we got to watch again in 1500 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,080 Speaker 1: a road trip like unforgettable road trip film, one of 1501 01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 1: the best. 1502 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:28,240 Speaker 2: So truly, so glad you picked it. And you're a 1503 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,080 Speaker 2: film also a doozy. 1504 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:35,240 Speaker 1: It's a duce, a little bit more understated, I believe 1505 01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:36,439 Speaker 1: than yours, but. 1506 01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,200 Speaker 2: An understated doozy. 1507 01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:42,400 Speaker 1: Understated doozy, So my film for the theme. Summer road 1508 01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,960 Speaker 1: Trip is a movie from nineteen seventy one. The screenplay 1509 01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,679 Speaker 1: was by Rudy Worlitzer and It was from a story 1510 01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,880 Speaker 1: written by Will Corey, directed by Monty Hellman, and it's 1511 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:53,240 Speaker 1: called two Lane Blacktop. 1512 01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,360 Speaker 4: Sure, little Race, damn right, blue Race? 1513 01:19:56,280 --> 01:20:04,040 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Slips. You mean for cars where too? You 1514 01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:04,439 Speaker 2: name it? 1515 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:05,800 Speaker 4: Washington DC. 1516 01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't think we've talked about Monty Hellman yet on 1517 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:13,000 Speaker 1: this podcast. Okay, briefly. You know, he was a director 1518 01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,560 Speaker 1: that came from that Roger Korman school of filmmaking. You know, 1519 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,640 Speaker 1: started out making those cheap B movies, but then he 1520 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,559 Speaker 1: eventually moved into making He made kind of these two 1521 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,200 Speaker 1: what they call acid westerns. 1522 01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 2: Nice. 1523 01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,560 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll we'll have to do an episode about that 1524 01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,799 Speaker 1: at some point. But they are both with Jack Nicholson. 1525 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,760 Speaker 1: The shooting and riding the whirl win those are the two. 1526 01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:45,600 Speaker 1: And then made Tulane Blacktop. And so as you can 1527 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:50,040 Speaker 1: imagine Monty Hellman working with Jack Nicholson doing some acid westerns. 1528 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:54,760 Speaker 1: He you know, he's involved with the counterculture a little bit, right, 1529 01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,800 Speaker 1: And then Two Lane Blacktop comes out in seventy one, 1530 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:03,719 Speaker 1: and it was basically in that wake of the success 1531 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:08,080 Speaker 1: of Easy Rider, right, which was the movie essentially that 1532 01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 1: bridged you know, this old Hollywood with this like new 1533 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:16,559 Speaker 1: Hollywood where you have people like Scorsese and Francis Ford 1534 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,960 Speaker 1: Coppola and you know, Monty Hellman obviously making these like 1535 01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,840 Speaker 1: films in the seventies that were kind of a lot 1536 01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,840 Speaker 1: more personal and you know, kind of cool. And you know, 1537 01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:31,599 Speaker 1: obviously with Easy Rider, that was like a big movie 1538 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,479 Speaker 1: that showed what the counter culture was up to. And 1539 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, I think the studios were at that point like, well, well, 1540 01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,559 Speaker 1: now we just got to make counterculture movies, Like we got. 1541 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,800 Speaker 2: To just get the hippies to just give them money 1542 01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:44,720 Speaker 2: to do whatever they want. 1543 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,439 Speaker 3: So like, you know, my Twilight came out and they're like, 1544 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:48,960 Speaker 3: let's put a vampire and everything. 1545 01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, you know how we taught We love to 1546 01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,960 Speaker 1: talk about that, like one movie hits and then there's 1547 01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,160 Speaker 1: like one hundred thousand others that come within three to 1548 01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:00,880 Speaker 1: five years of that movie, right, because honestly, if you 1549 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,360 Speaker 1: if you watch Tulane Blacktop, you're like, oh, I can't 1550 01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,160 Speaker 1: believe they let a guy make basically like a movie 1551 01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:13,320 Speaker 1: with almost no dialogue with two effectively like rock stars 1552 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:18,040 Speaker 1: who had never weren't They weren't professional actors, none of 1553 01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:21,320 Speaker 1: actually none of the cast was except for Warren Oates. 1554 01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:22,680 Speaker 1: So is that kind of thing. We were like, Oh, 1555 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,400 Speaker 1: that's because of easy writer they gave them. They were like, 1556 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:27,479 Speaker 1: let him do something like give them some money to 1557 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,719 Speaker 1: do something which I think is wild. 1558 01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:31,360 Speaker 2: Break them off a little car movie. 1559 01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:35,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, let them do that existential car movie. So one 1560 01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:40,760 Speaker 1: sentenced synopsis coming at you. Two men from California take 1561 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:45,040 Speaker 1: their handbuilt race car across the American Southwest, first as 1562 01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,320 Speaker 1: a way to make extra cash by road racing, but 1563 01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:53,760 Speaker 1: soon eventually find themselves in a cross country challenge with 1564 01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:55,800 Speaker 1: a fellow car enthusiast. 1565 01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:57,640 Speaker 2: Yes, that's it. 1566 01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,200 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna give you the breakdown of who's in 1567 01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,040 Speaker 1: this movie because there's not a lot of people in 1568 01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:09,639 Speaker 1: this movie. Oh yeah, you've got the musician James Taylor, 1569 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,440 Speaker 1: who is simply because character is simply. 1570 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:13,760 Speaker 2: Called the Driver. 1571 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:21,000 Speaker 1: And James Taylor, by the way, as he was presented 1572 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:25,240 Speaker 1: to me as a child, was like a soft rock. 1573 01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,280 Speaker 2: Geek, oh folk singer. 1574 01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,479 Speaker 1: Yes, that's who he was to me when I was 1575 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,439 Speaker 1: growing up. Was somebody that my parents liked. 1576 01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:33,599 Speaker 2: And then. 1577 01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,560 Speaker 1: You realize, oh, wait a minute, he was this like 1578 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,720 Speaker 1: cool guy at one point, like when he was you know, 1579 01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,880 Speaker 1: in California, and he has this whole trajectory that I 1580 01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,000 Speaker 1: didn't know anything about so completely. 1581 01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,599 Speaker 3: I know, blows here mind to think of him as cool, 1582 01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,400 Speaker 3: because even now it's like I picture him as like 1583 01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:55,479 Speaker 3: a little hunched over and bald and like little grainny glasses. 1584 01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, thing and fire and rain exactly. 1585 01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:00,600 Speaker 1: But then you look at him in this movie and 1586 01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,759 Speaker 1: you're like, WHOA, Like, I really want to know your opinion. 1587 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,479 Speaker 1: What did you think when you saw him in this 1588 01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,400 Speaker 1: movie where you're like, is that a high assed guy 1589 01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,040 Speaker 1: I could whose life I could ruin? Or where you're 1590 01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:12,040 Speaker 1: just like, eh, he's all right. 1591 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:17,880 Speaker 2: I thought I fucked that guy and I never would again. 1592 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,639 Speaker 3: Like the quiet Weirdo, Yes, he's a little too obsessed 1593 01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:25,920 Speaker 3: with one thing, like I don't need to go there again. 1594 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's cute, but like I can't. And he's very 1595 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 2: he's very like like you said, there's not a lot 1596 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:34,800 Speaker 2: of dialogue in the film, so he's very one note 1597 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,360 Speaker 2: when he does speak, and I'm just like, hmm, now, 1598 01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,040 Speaker 2: Dennis Wilson, however, well there you go, I would ruin 1599 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:42,320 Speaker 2: a life. Yeah. 1600 01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:46,840 Speaker 1: Well, because so Dennis Wilson plays the character is his 1601 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,400 Speaker 1: name is the Mechanic. Now, Dennis Wilson, you may know him. 1602 01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:55,240 Speaker 1: He was a member of the Beach Boys. He was 1603 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,240 Speaker 1: apparently the one beach boy that actually surfed. 1604 01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,560 Speaker 2: I always love that to know, you'll know what, he 1605 01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,960 Speaker 2: was a reserve, would not scamming us. 1606 01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:09,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Dennis was you know, if you know a 1607 01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:13,120 Speaker 1: lot about kind of la history and that kind of 1608 01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, Manson family era, he was definitely involved with 1609 01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:18,479 Speaker 1: all of that. 1610 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:19,840 Speaker 2: I mean he was. 1611 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,840 Speaker 1: He had befriended Charles Manson. I think he was the 1612 01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:27,680 Speaker 1: one that introduced Manson to Terry Melcher and so it's 1613 01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,639 Speaker 1: kind of like he's got this Dennis Wilson particularly has 1614 01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,000 Speaker 1: this whole you know, mythology around him. 1615 01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,280 Speaker 2: Right. Also, I forgot the Manson part. 1616 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,680 Speaker 3: So I'm just going to backtrack my statement about him 1617 01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,719 Speaker 3: being cute in the movie. 1618 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,760 Speaker 2: He can still be cute. He can still be cute. 1619 01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,760 Speaker 1: But uh so, Yeah, Dennis Wilson, the mechanic. And then 1620 01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:54,160 Speaker 1: you've got Laurie Bird who plays the girl, and we 1621 01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,200 Speaker 1: will definitely get into her in just a second, but 1622 01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,720 Speaker 1: Laurie Bird was just a you know, she was a 1623 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,720 Speaker 1: mo basically, she had never really acted before and she 1624 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:09,160 Speaker 1: wasn't in a lot of films at all. She died unfortunately, 1625 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:14,400 Speaker 1: very young, very tragically. But you know, she was a 1626 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,880 Speaker 1: non actor, completely fresh face as well. So you've got 1627 01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:22,200 Speaker 1: these like three young non professional actors, and then you've 1628 01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,640 Speaker 1: got Warren Oates, who is the gto. And you know, 1629 01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:30,360 Speaker 1: Warren Oates personally is one of my favorite character actors ever. 1630 01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:35,160 Speaker 1: He's so awesome. Anytime I see him in a movie, 1631 01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,519 Speaker 1: I'm just like, that's my guy. He was, you know, 1632 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,760 Speaker 1: kind of like Monti Hellman's muse. He was, you know, 1633 01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:43,720 Speaker 1: the same for Sam Peck and Paul. He was in 1634 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:47,600 Speaker 1: a lot of like you know, kind of great seventies, 1635 01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,680 Speaker 1: sixties and seventies movies. He was also in Stripes. I 1636 01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:54,560 Speaker 1: don't know if everybody remembers. He was the like the 1637 01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,800 Speaker 1: colonel or like the guy that's like ordering everybody around 1638 01:26:57,840 --> 01:26:58,400 Speaker 1: in stripes. 1639 01:26:58,560 --> 01:26:59,200 Speaker 2: My god. 1640 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,720 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so he's he was around for a long time. 1641 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,640 Speaker 1: He's no longer with us. But anyway, if you like 1642 01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,479 Speaker 1: Warre Notates, you're a friend of mine. Let's just say that. 1643 01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:13,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, you've got these four characters, and 1644 01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 1: from what I've read, like Monti Hellman, actually he didn't 1645 01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:22,640 Speaker 1: come into the movie, intending to cast James Taylor and 1646 01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,240 Speaker 1: Dennis Wilson. In fact, he said that you'll love this. 1647 01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:33,120 Speaker 1: He actually considered James Kahan. Oh at one point, so 1648 01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:38,120 Speaker 1: could have been a Jimmy Kahn Tulane Blacktop. What could 1649 01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:38,439 Speaker 1: have been? 1650 01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:43,160 Speaker 3: Right, Jimmy Kahn would never stay silent in a film 1651 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:44,120 Speaker 3: for as long as this movie was. 1652 01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,639 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I don't think so, I don't think. 1653 01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:52,280 Speaker 1: I don't think a man, real actor would be like, oh, 1654 01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,000 Speaker 1: I don't say anything pretty much. 1655 01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:58,720 Speaker 2: Ever, Yeah, a man is not having it, yeap, Rip King. 1656 01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,599 Speaker 1: Look, we're gonna get into the beasts of the film 1657 01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:03,960 Speaker 1: a little bit, but I just want to say as 1658 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:09,080 Speaker 1: a warning, I know very little about racing and cars, Okay, 1659 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,360 Speaker 1: So just just gonna throw that out there. Although I 1660 01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:16,360 Speaker 1: will say this, I went to a NASCAR race once, 1661 01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,000 Speaker 1: just once. I have a friend who works for a 1662 01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:23,320 Speaker 1: NASCAR team, and she invited me to see a NASCAR 1663 01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:25,480 Speaker 1: race that at the Atlanta Motor Speedway. 1664 01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,559 Speaker 2: Nice an institution here. 1665 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:32,559 Speaker 1: But that was the only time that I ever felt 1666 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:38,920 Speaker 1: like I got the full scope of like men's obsessions 1667 01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:43,439 Speaker 1: with cars. Right there was this First of all, I 1668 01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,160 Speaker 1: will say this, I don't know if this is typical 1669 01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,400 Speaker 1: of NASCAR race, but I swear to god, there was 1670 01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:52,920 Speaker 1: like three women there, like totally in the mass medium. Yeah, 1671 01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:55,800 Speaker 1: it was I would say ninety to ninety five percent 1672 01:28:55,960 --> 01:29:01,080 Speaker 1: men bomn and the degree to which people were obsessed 1673 01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:05,840 Speaker 1: with watching, like it was like men watching men work 1674 01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,439 Speaker 1: on like take apart cars, put the new tires on. 1675 01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:14,559 Speaker 1: There was a car that had wrecked on the racetrack 1676 01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,000 Speaker 1: or whatever, so they pull they tow the car to 1677 01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,559 Speaker 1: the pit, right, and then whoever's team it is, all 1678 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:24,280 Speaker 1: their mechanics start just taking apart the car because you know, 1679 01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:25,680 Speaker 1: you got to take all the shit off of it 1680 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,919 Speaker 1: and you know and scrap it or do whatever, rebuild 1681 01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,759 Speaker 1: it or something. Yeah, and so there was this pile 1682 01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,200 Speaker 1: there was like four guys with a junked up car, 1683 01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:39,160 Speaker 1: and these dudes just like circling them filming it with 1684 01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:44,280 Speaker 1: their iPhones, like watching like filming guys take apart a car. 1685 01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:49,120 Speaker 1: And I was like, this is like fucking crazy, Like 1686 01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,280 Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like that before my life. 1687 01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:51,519 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1688 01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:55,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kind of like sexual in a weird way, 1689 01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:59,479 Speaker 1: like they were like having a moment or something, and 1690 01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm just like, wow, this is like an ethnographic study 1691 01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:05,960 Speaker 1: here that I that I'm here for. 1692 01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:07,160 Speaker 2: So yeah. 1693 01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I had that NASCAR experience and you know, 1694 01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:13,400 Speaker 1: I mean I didn't know anything that was going on, but. 1695 01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,400 Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you how a NASCAR race goes. 1696 01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is like as an outsider, it's fascinating. 1697 01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,240 Speaker 1: And that's like part of like what I think is 1698 01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,479 Speaker 1: fascinating about this movie in that regard is that, like, 1699 01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean, there are parts of this movie where you 1700 01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,080 Speaker 1: can see people in the background like looking at their 1701 01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,599 Speaker 1: cars and stuff, like just guys, just guys milling around 1702 01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:34,000 Speaker 1: looking at the cars, talking about their engines and shit. 1703 01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:36,599 Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's fascinating because. 1704 01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,840 Speaker 3: I just don't know anything about that and it's so 1705 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:44,000 Speaker 3: like it's so intricate because they're interested in the thing 1706 01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:46,720 Speaker 3: that's on the inside of the car. Yeah, but they 1707 01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,120 Speaker 3: don't actually want to talk to the drivers or anyone 1708 01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:50,960 Speaker 3: who has anything to do with the car. They're like, 1709 01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:52,360 Speaker 3: let me just does pop the hood and let me 1710 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:53,880 Speaker 3: take a look and do my own thing. 1711 01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:54,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1712 01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,320 Speaker 1: Well, and that's what I think is so interesting ultimately too, 1713 01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:59,280 Speaker 1: about the driver and the mechanic. 1714 01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:01,280 Speaker 2: Now, at the beginning of the film. 1715 01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:04,479 Speaker 1: They're together, like they're just like hanging out together, and 1716 01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:08,719 Speaker 1: you know, James Taylor is the driver obviously, Dennis Wilson 1717 01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,759 Speaker 1: is a mechanic, and he's so knowledgeable, Like apparently Dennis 1718 01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,120 Speaker 1: Wilson actually did know a lot about cars, which I 1719 01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:19,520 Speaker 1: find very interesting. But the mechanic is like so knowledgeable 1720 01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,160 Speaker 1: that he kind of like knows just by looking at 1721 01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:25,760 Speaker 1: a car if he thinks that they could win if 1722 01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:31,160 Speaker 1: they race it type of thing. And they have together. Again, 1723 01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:34,240 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of backstory with either of them, right, 1724 01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:39,360 Speaker 1: And at times it's sort of like you can't decide 1725 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,800 Speaker 1: because they literally don't say anything to each other unless 1726 01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:46,559 Speaker 1: it's about cars, right, And there's there's a moment where 1727 01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:49,400 Speaker 1: I think, Okay, they're either like completely closed off from 1728 01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:53,960 Speaker 1: their entire like emotional register and they don't know anything 1729 01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:58,960 Speaker 1: but cars, or they're like an old married couple that 1730 01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,280 Speaker 1: like doesn't have to speak to each other even if 1731 01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,880 Speaker 1: they're in the same room. It was a very interesting vibe. 1732 01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:05,439 Speaker 1: I couldn't decide. Maybe it was a little bit of 1733 01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:06,360 Speaker 1: both who knows? 1734 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:10,640 Speaker 2: And then Lorie Bird shows up and you're like, whoa, yes, she. 1735 01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:12,680 Speaker 1: Really throws a wrench in there, and that's something that 1736 01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,240 Speaker 1: I want to get into in a second, because I 1737 01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:16,800 Speaker 1: feel like it has almost a lot in common with 1738 01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:21,080 Speaker 1: your film. But so this car that they have together 1739 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:25,040 Speaker 1: is a like a nineteen fifty five Chevy okay, and 1740 01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:27,880 Speaker 1: they apparently have built it from like the ground up. 1741 01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,720 Speaker 1: And part of what I have heard Monti Hellman talk 1742 01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,400 Speaker 1: about when he talks about the film is that the 1743 01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:38,960 Speaker 1: actual car in the movie was built as a race car. 1744 01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:43,200 Speaker 1: Like basically it's all aluminum like trunk and hood and 1745 01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:45,560 Speaker 1: the fiberglass windows so that the car goes faster, so 1746 01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:49,479 Speaker 1: nothing that like prevents the car from slowing down in 1747 01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:52,120 Speaker 1: any way. So they've built this thing from scratch, and 1748 01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,120 Speaker 1: you can tell it's just kind of like it's their 1749 01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:57,400 Speaker 1: girlfriend or something. It's like they're the love of their. 1750 01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:01,639 Speaker 2: Life, right, and it look great. But I guess, yes, 1751 01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:03,680 Speaker 2: and you have to take the trunk off when you 1752 01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:04,559 Speaker 2: want to do anything. 1753 01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:11,120 Speaker 1: Yes, very very interesting, and you know, basically they're just 1754 01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:15,000 Speaker 1: kind of roaming around, you know, La, but also they 1755 01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:17,200 Speaker 1: move out into like kind of Arizona and New Mexico 1756 01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,360 Speaker 1: and they're just like racing for money. They're just really 1757 01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:21,800 Speaker 1: they got really kind of no goal other than to 1758 01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,400 Speaker 1: just like show up and do some drag racing, make 1759 01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:26,679 Speaker 1: some cash, and then move on to the next place. Okay, 1760 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:33,160 Speaker 1: so one day they're out and this female hitchhiker just 1761 01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:35,080 Speaker 1: kind of gets into the backseat of their car where 1762 01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,680 Speaker 1: they're like in a diner or a gas station, and 1763 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:39,120 Speaker 1: then just kind of stays. 1764 01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,880 Speaker 3: It's so weird, yeah, because there's not a lot of 1765 01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,000 Speaker 3: dialogue in the film, so you're like, do they know her? 1766 01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:49,600 Speaker 2: Have they met her? There's no explanation, yes, and like, you. 1767 01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:51,960 Speaker 1: Know, and this is obviously the Lori Bird character who's 1768 01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,760 Speaker 1: just sort of named the girl. They don't know her 1769 01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,080 Speaker 1: or anything, and you know, and they just sort of 1770 01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,320 Speaker 1: like nobody has introduced them, Like she just kind of Hey, 1771 01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:02,880 Speaker 1: we're in the backseat and guess what, Now we're on 1772 01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:06,000 Speaker 1: a ride and she's just along for it, and you know, 1773 01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,960 Speaker 1: part of what again, what I think this movie is 1774 01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,240 Speaker 1: a lot about. It's just about that sort of the 1775 01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:14,040 Speaker 1: road and sort of being on the road. And you know, 1776 01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:18,280 Speaker 1: seventy one seventies in general was not just a big 1777 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:22,360 Speaker 1: car but also like a big hitchhiking era too, which 1778 01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:24,040 Speaker 1: was a huge part of the counterculture. A lot of 1779 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,599 Speaker 1: people hitchhiked all the time, especially if you were hippie 1780 01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:29,679 Speaker 1: and you know, just sort of like cool and wanted 1781 01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:32,519 Speaker 1: to get places. So she just kind of shows up 1782 01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:34,920 Speaker 1: where her stuff and there's kind of like, Okay, it 1783 01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:38,000 Speaker 1: felt very you know, like you can never do that 1784 01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:39,920 Speaker 1: now obviously, but I was like, I don't know, maybe 1785 01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:41,439 Speaker 1: in the seventies. 1786 01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:44,200 Speaker 2: It was like that, you know, I don't even know 1787 01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:45,760 Speaker 2: if you could do it then, but she did. 1788 01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just what happened. 1789 01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:52,920 Speaker 2: So again it's a great entrance. Yeah, it's a great entrance. 1790 01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:55,840 Speaker 1: So again, you know, they're not on the interstate when 1791 01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,360 Speaker 1: they're driving around, they're just taking these back roads and 1792 01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, so essentially what ends up happening is they're 1793 01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:07,960 Speaker 1: on the road and they keep driving. This guy, just 1794 01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:12,560 Speaker 1: random guy keeps driving up next to them, and it's Gto, 1795 01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,080 Speaker 1: the character named Gto, played by war Notes. 1796 01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:17,040 Speaker 2: And this guy's a real fucking character. 1797 01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:21,160 Speaker 1: Now he's doing all the talking in the film, like 1798 01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:22,840 Speaker 1: he's doing all the talking for them. 1799 01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:25,760 Speaker 2: And what I love about this character is that. 1800 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:31,120 Speaker 3: He you hear his personal story by all the hitchhikers 1801 01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:34,840 Speaker 3: he picks up and talks to exactly. Yeah, so he's 1802 01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:38,080 Speaker 3: alone in the car, except he does pick up hitchhikers, 1803 01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:39,160 Speaker 3: and they're of every stripe. 1804 01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:40,360 Speaker 2: You know. 1805 01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:44,640 Speaker 1: It's like old ladies with with their granddaughters, you know, 1806 01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:48,040 Speaker 1: guys in the military, you know, just random dudes on 1807 01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:49,920 Speaker 1: the side of the road. You know, it's just kind 1808 01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:52,840 Speaker 1: of everybody, and which is also like another kind of 1809 01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:54,599 Speaker 1: charming part of the film is getting to see all 1810 01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:56,439 Speaker 1: these different people that he picks up, and then every 1811 01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:59,160 Speaker 1: time he picks them up, he has this new story 1812 01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:01,000 Speaker 1: about who he is and how he got the car. 1813 01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,920 Speaker 1: He's like he's a mini bar and it's trunk and 1814 01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:05,920 Speaker 1: he's like wearing these like racing gloves. I mean, he's 1815 01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:10,400 Speaker 1: just fucking ridiculous, right, But at the same time, you 1816 01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:12,120 Speaker 1: can sense that he's also kind of going through his 1817 01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:16,080 Speaker 1: own sort of like existential crisis or something. Like he 1818 01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:18,800 Speaker 1: kind of just starts saying things like he's been on 1819 01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:20,960 Speaker 1: the go for so long and maybe it's time to 1820 01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:25,280 Speaker 1: settle down. He says something that's it was, you know, 1821 01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:27,600 Speaker 1: very profound to me. Actually, he said that if he 1822 01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:29,360 Speaker 1: doesn't settle down soon, he's. 1823 01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:29,680 Speaker 2: Going to like. 1824 01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:33,920 Speaker 1: You know, move up into the orbit or whatever, meaning 1825 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,799 Speaker 1: like he's like, I don't know, if I don't figure 1826 01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,960 Speaker 1: this out soon, I'm gonna I'm gonna float away and 1827 01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:41,679 Speaker 1: not know what I'm doing. 1828 01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:43,439 Speaker 2: That's a real issue for a lot of people. 1829 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:45,920 Speaker 3: Where I think he was this character seems to be 1830 01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:51,760 Speaker 3: smart enough to notice that about himself, that he's not 1831 01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:52,439 Speaker 3: tethered to the. 1832 01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:54,840 Speaker 2: World and he can literally just drive back and forth 1833 01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:55,479 Speaker 2: and do his thing. 1834 01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:58,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so part of like what ends up happening 1835 01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:02,200 Speaker 1: is that he just seeing these this car, this other 1836 01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:06,040 Speaker 1: car with these guys and this girl, and you know, 1837 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:09,040 Speaker 1: they're in this like old fifty five Chevy that they've 1838 01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,360 Speaker 1: built from the ground up, and he is in this 1839 01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:15,479 Speaker 1: like brand new Pontiac Gto with all the bells and whistles, 1840 01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:19,720 Speaker 1: and so you start seeing like this kind of generational 1841 01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:22,800 Speaker 1: conversation happening where it's sort of like, so, he's the 1842 01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:25,320 Speaker 1: guy that like bought the brand new car off the lot, 1843 01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:27,760 Speaker 1: and he wants to be cool and he thinks he's 1844 01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,880 Speaker 1: being hip. Meanwhile, these like kids got this old car 1845 01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:34,120 Speaker 1: and they're just kind of restoring it to the best 1846 01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:35,560 Speaker 1: of their ability, and they're just kind of like So 1847 01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:37,680 Speaker 1: there's this kind of this thing that's going back and 1848 01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:41,160 Speaker 1: forth between the two of them about how they're kind 1849 01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:42,960 Speaker 1: of making fun of him, but he's kind of like 1850 01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:44,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, shaking his fist at them 1851 01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,840 Speaker 1: and stuff. And at the same time though, they kind 1852 01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:49,920 Speaker 1: of have the same vibe, which is that they're all 1853 01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:53,439 Speaker 1: kind of drifting, like, you know, and that's I think 1854 01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:56,240 Speaker 1: another part of what makes this movie kind of an 1855 01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:03,200 Speaker 1: existential shin or thought experiment is just like that idea 1856 01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:07,200 Speaker 1: of like he's them in like twenty thirty years right exactly. 1857 01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:11,000 Speaker 1: So after a while they get sick of just kind 1858 01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,280 Speaker 1: of following each other, and then so finally they agree 1859 01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,439 Speaker 1: that they're going to race, and the whole thing is 1860 01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:18,200 Speaker 1: that they're going to race to Washington, DC, and then 1861 01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:23,080 Speaker 1: whoever gets their first gets the other person's car. Essentially, 1862 01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:28,759 Speaker 1: it's time to kind of address the Lori Bird character, 1863 01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:34,320 Speaker 1: because in this era, you know, she's playing effectively like 1864 01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:39,840 Speaker 1: a wanderer, kind of like a counterculture girl, and she, 1865 01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:42,640 Speaker 1: in a weird way, kind of has I mean, she 1866 01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:46,519 Speaker 1: has no goals either, she has no desires other than 1867 01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:48,759 Speaker 1: to just have experiences and just kind of like drift 1868 01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,640 Speaker 1: and move along and just kind of go places. And 1869 01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,080 Speaker 1: I actually think that's pretty interesting because I feel like 1870 01:38:55,800 --> 01:39:00,639 Speaker 1: in maybe maybe a movie from a slightly early period 1871 01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:04,360 Speaker 1: of time than this, that woman would have like all 1872 01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,240 Speaker 1: these needs and she'd be like this big mag and 1873 01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,960 Speaker 1: she's just kind of like, you know this, like trying 1874 01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:12,519 Speaker 1: to like settle the men down. But I feel like 1875 01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:15,240 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, she's not doing that. 1876 01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:16,920 Speaker 1: She's like, I want to live my own life. I 1877 01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,040 Speaker 1: want to do what I want to do. This guy's 1878 01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:20,600 Speaker 1: telling me they want to take me to Florida. I 1879 01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:21,760 Speaker 1: don't want to do that shit, Like. 1880 01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:24,719 Speaker 2: I want to do my own thing right exactly. 1881 01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,080 Speaker 1: And at certain points, like both the driver and the 1882 01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:30,800 Speaker 1: mechanic kind of enter into, you know, some kind of 1883 01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:36,280 Speaker 1: romance with her, but she's not feeling she doesn't feel 1884 01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,680 Speaker 1: indebted to either of them. Yeah, and she's just like, 1885 01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't care. I just want to do what I 1886 01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:43,720 Speaker 1: want to do, which I feel like, in a way 1887 01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:45,679 Speaker 1: is kind of fresh for this time. 1888 01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,840 Speaker 3: You know, absolutely, And it's really indicative of like it's 1889 01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:53,479 Speaker 3: in a movie where most of the characters don't have 1890 01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:59,280 Speaker 3: any personal motivation, she does, like she has this motivation 1891 01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,880 Speaker 3: to be free on her own terms. And you can 1892 01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:04,599 Speaker 3: see that with her hopping back and forth between the cars. 1893 01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:08,320 Speaker 3: So sometimes she's hanging out with Gto and sometimes she's 1894 01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:11,160 Speaker 3: hanging out with the with the driver and the mechanic. Yeah, 1895 01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,439 Speaker 3: and she's just kind of like figuring it out as 1896 01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:16,479 Speaker 3: she goes and basing all of her decisions on what 1897 01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:17,519 Speaker 3: makes her comfortable. 1898 01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:22,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's this one part where I feel like the driver, 1899 01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:28,280 Speaker 1: you know, considers maybe entering into a romance with her 1900 01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:32,280 Speaker 1: or has a little crush on her. And throughout the film, 1901 01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:35,360 Speaker 1: it's not like these people are having these big conversations. 1902 01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:37,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they're just kind of like chillin together with 1903 01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:41,479 Speaker 1: kind of no get to, no use, no like anything. 1904 01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:45,960 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because the shift between like, you know, 1905 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,200 Speaker 1: he kind of I guess she kind of grows on 1906 01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:50,680 Speaker 1: him at a certain point on the trip, and then 1907 01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:54,240 Speaker 1: he decides to try to teach her how to drive 1908 01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:59,880 Speaker 1: the car, which in his language, which he's car obsessed 1909 01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:03,080 Speaker 1: and he only talks about cars and thinks about cars. 1910 01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:09,120 Speaker 2: That's pretty much like a marriage proposal, right exactly. And 1911 01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:12,040 Speaker 2: then there's so much disappointment in that lesson. 1912 01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:16,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what ends up happening without you know, giving 1913 01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:19,240 Speaker 1: a ton away, even though I don't even think there's 1914 01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:23,360 Speaker 1: really enough to give away in this film, Like it's 1915 01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:26,680 Speaker 1: like she that doesn't mean anything to her, Like she 1916 01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:32,640 Speaker 1: like even that gesture. Ultimately it doesn't turn her Like 1917 01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:34,680 Speaker 1: she's just like, you know what, I'm just gonna move 1918 01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:36,759 Speaker 1: on and go off with somebody else and that's. 1919 01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:39,800 Speaker 2: Just how I am. Yeah, and she tells me he's boring. 1920 01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:41,759 Speaker 2: She's like, you're boring me, and she like walks away. 1921 01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like and again like this is you know, something 1922 01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:48,639 Speaker 1: that I think is kind of unique about the film 1923 01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:52,040 Speaker 1: is that like, yes, the girl doesn't like say much 1924 01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:55,479 Speaker 1: alongside everybody else who's not saying anything, but she also 1925 01:41:55,760 --> 01:42:01,080 Speaker 1: is not you know, feeling sort of like some type 1926 01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:02,200 Speaker 1: of way about either of them or. 1927 01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:02,720 Speaker 2: Any of them. 1928 01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:04,720 Speaker 1: So I don't know, I just I find that very 1929 01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:08,439 Speaker 1: interesting and you know, part of like what this movie is. 1930 01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:11,080 Speaker 1: And like I said, there is a lot sort of 1931 01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:14,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of like it's one of those movies 1932 01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:17,599 Speaker 1: where you don't hear a lot of dialogue, you see 1933 01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:21,040 Speaker 1: a lot of great scenery, like the shots of like 1934 01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,360 Speaker 1: you know again, they're kind of they're not taking the interstate. 1935 01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:27,240 Speaker 1: They're kind of I feel like on maybe like Route 1936 01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,640 Speaker 1: sixty six or something, they're kind of hitting all the 1937 01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:34,040 Speaker 1: spots that you would go to like Oklahoma, Arkansas, Memphis, 1938 01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:35,920 Speaker 1: so you're kind of like, okay, maybe they're traveling cost 1939 01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:37,640 Speaker 1: the country, but they're not like on the you know, 1940 01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:41,560 Speaker 1: I forty or whatever. They're they're taking back roads and 1941 01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:43,680 Speaker 1: just all of the people that they meet, like they 1942 01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:45,840 Speaker 1: show up to these kind of like local race tracks, 1943 01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,559 Speaker 1: and it's like so great, like watching all the old 1944 01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, racetrack footage and the diners and that kind 1945 01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,000 Speaker 1: of stuff. It's like, you know, that to me is 1946 01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:58,680 Speaker 1: part of the charm of this film, but it is 1947 01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:01,000 Speaker 1: the kind of thing where, you know, if you're looking 1948 01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:03,080 Speaker 1: for something where there's a lot of action, a lot 1949 01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:05,520 Speaker 1: of shit happening, a lot of like you know, conversation, 1950 01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:08,680 Speaker 1: this probably ain't the movie for you, But it's more 1951 01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:12,519 Speaker 1: kind of like a meditative vibe. Like you know, there 1952 01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:14,320 Speaker 1: was a lot of that in this era too, a 1953 01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:18,200 Speaker 1: lot of kind of like existential car films like Vanishing 1954 01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:20,479 Speaker 1: Point and that kind of stuff. So it's kind of 1955 01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:24,120 Speaker 1: of the era, but also like if you're just looking 1956 01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:26,479 Speaker 1: to see like a movie where you can just kind 1957 01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:28,200 Speaker 1: of like I don't know, just kind of sit in 1958 01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:30,880 Speaker 1: the world and not you know, and kind of just 1959 01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:34,559 Speaker 1: make up your own conclusions about some things, then it's 1960 01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:35,240 Speaker 1: a great film. 1961 01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I like that about the movie that it 1962 01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:41,240 Speaker 3: kind of when you look at the start and the endpoint, 1963 01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:43,479 Speaker 3: you're like, oh, they're just showing you this chunk of 1964 01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:48,080 Speaker 3: time and you get to decide what you think happens 1965 01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,400 Speaker 3: or who these people are, Like they're not projecting a 1966 01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:51,480 Speaker 3: lot onto. 1967 01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:52,800 Speaker 2: You about the experience. 1968 01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,559 Speaker 3: That's kind of it is very meditative, and it's very 1969 01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:58,639 Speaker 3: it's calming in a way because there's not a lot 1970 01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,400 Speaker 3: of big movie happening, so you don't have to kind 1971 01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:02,880 Speaker 3: of guess, like why are they doing that and where 1972 01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:05,000 Speaker 3: are they going next? And like that is not the 1973 01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:07,879 Speaker 3: vibe of the people who would do this kind of traveling, 1974 01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:09,599 Speaker 3: So that comes through lad and clear. 1975 01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,160 Speaker 1: And I think if there is one thing that I 1976 01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:17,160 Speaker 1: do think is a nice kind of reference point between 1977 01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,000 Speaker 1: your movie and my movie is that I think both 1978 01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:21,920 Speaker 1: of these movies, besides the fact that there are about 1979 01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:26,599 Speaker 1: road trips, taking the road less travel, not taking interstate roads, 1980 01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:29,200 Speaker 1: like getting to see like kind of slice of life, 1981 01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:33,040 Speaker 1: whether it's Mexico or America, is that their movie is 1982 01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:37,519 Speaker 1: ultimately about men and about when a woman comes into 1983 01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,679 Speaker 1: that scenario and what happens right. 1984 01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:43,439 Speaker 3: When a confident woman who doesn't need or want anything 1985 01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:46,440 Speaker 3: from them comes into that scenario exactly. 1986 01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:49,880 Speaker 1: And that was not intentional. I mean, I wasn't for 1987 01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:52,120 Speaker 1: me when we decided to do this theme. I just 1988 01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:56,360 Speaker 1: think me, yea an accidental connection point. 1989 01:44:56,760 --> 01:45:01,400 Speaker 3: My original movie was Magic Mike XXL and I was like, actually, 1990 01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:03,479 Speaker 3: I don't think I want to talk about Magic mykegs Exel. 1991 01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:08,120 Speaker 3: I completely forgot that, by the way, So it totally 1992 01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:09,960 Speaker 3: wasn't intentional because I changed my movie. 1993 01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:12,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's that's great. 1994 01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:13,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that was what I was really thinking 1995 01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:16,439 Speaker 1: when I was, you know, watching both of these together. 1996 01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:18,320 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, like these are again 1997 01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:21,920 Speaker 1: like an accidental connection even though you know they are 1998 01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:24,719 Speaker 1: about this one obvious theme, but there's other things involved 1999 01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:27,960 Speaker 1: too that they're both you know, pretty similar. So I 2000 01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:32,320 Speaker 1: have to say, like, watching these two together made me 2001 01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:34,200 Speaker 1: want to go on a road trip. I know that's, 2002 01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:37,439 Speaker 1: you know, stupid, but I I was stupid at all. 2003 01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:40,120 Speaker 3: They're showing these great slices of countries and you know, 2004 01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:44,240 Speaker 3: of Mexico and of USA, and it's like you're seeing 2005 01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:48,320 Speaker 3: the way that both movies are filmed, you really get 2006 01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:50,000 Speaker 3: a feel for what it's like to be on the road, 2007 01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:52,280 Speaker 3: like all the bumps and all the like. It's not 2008 01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:55,240 Speaker 3: a smooth ride, and it's you know, you're coming across 2009 01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:57,760 Speaker 3: things that are so unexpected, and the imagery like of 2010 01:45:57,840 --> 01:45:59,320 Speaker 3: course it makes you want to take a road trip. 2011 01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:00,439 Speaker 2: I think that's totally normal. 2012 01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, they they are great both. I will say this, 2013 01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:07,240 Speaker 1: both of these were on the Criterion collection at some point. 2014 01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,960 Speaker 1: I think, like your film is on the Criterion channel. 2015 01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:14,160 Speaker 1: Mine there is a Criterion disc and if you could 2016 01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:16,719 Speaker 1: dig into the special features of both of these movies, 2017 01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:20,840 Speaker 1: they are incredibly interesting. I mean, like we said at 2018 01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:24,240 Speaker 1: the top of the show, like Alison is doing the 2019 01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,880 Speaker 1: commentary for Tuli Black Top with Monni Hellman when he 2020 01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:29,280 Speaker 1: was still alive, and I watched the shit out of 2021 01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,320 Speaker 1: the special features for your film, I was like, damn. 2022 01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:33,639 Speaker 2: This is incredible. So yeah, it's awesome. 2023 01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:37,240 Speaker 1: That's why we're big advocates for you know, kind of 2024 01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:39,840 Speaker 1: like physical media or like at least a place where 2025 01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:41,880 Speaker 1: you can watch bonus features because you just get a 2026 01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:43,200 Speaker 1: lot of info from those. 2027 01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:47,280 Speaker 2: So so good. Ah, I love these movies. I love 2028 01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:51,759 Speaker 2: this week me too, and listen. I'm serious. 2029 01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,160 Speaker 1: If you guys go on a road trip and it's 2030 01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:58,160 Speaker 1: epic and you learn a lot, please email us or 2031 01:46:58,280 --> 01:46:59,920 Speaker 1: just email us in general if you have if you 2032 01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:02,160 Speaker 1: have desires to go on road trips, if you if 2033 01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:05,559 Speaker 1: you want to suggest more road trip films. We are 2034 01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:07,640 Speaker 1: at I Saw What You Did Pod at jmail. 2035 01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:10,639 Speaker 3: Dot com, and you can also find us on our 2036 01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:13,759 Speaker 3: social media. We are at I Saw Pod on Instagram 2037 01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:16,120 Speaker 3: and Twitter. 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