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Speaker 1: with the news of the day. Nick Bosa officially signs

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Speaker 1: they got talent everywhere, their offensive line should be vastly improved.

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Speaker 1: Even if Najee Harris is not the player that I

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Speaker 1: once thought he would be. They have the other guy,

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Speaker 1: Warren who's going ninety five miles an hour. We know

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Speaker 1: they got wide receivers and again defense, defense, So I'm

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Speaker 1: taking and the Steelers in the North and the East.

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Speaker 1: You know, I went all in on them in the

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Speaker 1: offseason and in the summer, and then I started watching

432
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Speaker 1: hard knocks and I'm like, well, they can't block a soul.

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Speaker 1: And then I realized, like, what if they just have

434
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Speaker 1: the best defense in the league. They are a top

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Speaker 1: five rushing team, and oh yeah, they don't have one

436
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks all of all time. They have

437
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Speaker 1: one of the smartest quarterbacks of all time, who, let's

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Speaker 1: face it, has a lot of credit he can earn.

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Speaker 1: We saw it with Tom Brady, and I know the

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Speaker 1: argument is the Bucks offensive line when Tom got there

441
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: was much better. I agree, and definitely much more reliable.

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00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: But what Tom had that year, and remember it was

443
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Speaker 1: rock early because him and Arians weren't on the same page.

444
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: They had to figure out their offense. When you're great

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Speaker 1: and you got a chip on your shoulder, I'm picking

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Speaker 1: the Jets, I am, and I think their defense. I

447
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Speaker 1: think they're gonna have the best pass rush in the league.

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Speaker 1: Obviously saw Us I think is easily a top I mean,

449
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: either the best or top two corner in the league.

450
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Speaker 1: So you can rush the passer and you have a

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Speaker 1: corner who can take away the entire side of the field.

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Speaker 1: And you got Aaron Rodgers with a chip on his

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Speaker 1: sh with a lot of talent around him, plus really

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Speaker 1: good running backs. Robert Sala has to prove it. Totally

455
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: agree and betting on Robert Sala over Sean McDermott, who

456
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: has proven it. Even Mike McDaniels last year was able

457
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Speaker 1: to get to the playoff game. It's risky, but I'm

458
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Speaker 1: sick with the Jets. That was my gut instinct a

459
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: month ago. Start pivoting. I'm gonna stick with the Jets,

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Speaker 1: my wild cards. Like like, I don't think there's a

461
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Speaker 1: huge separation between the Bills and the Jets anytime. Josh

462
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: Allen Obviously they could easily win the division. They've been

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Speaker 1: winning it the last three years. The question with them

464
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: is just gonna be the playoffs. They're gonna make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: If you got Josh Allen healthy, you're making the playoffs.

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00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: Same with Joe Burrow. And again like the Bills in

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Speaker 1: the Bengals, like they're right there with the Steelers in

468
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Speaker 1: the Jets. So Bill's Bengals. It's not like I'm diminishing.

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Speaker 1: I think they're both good and I think both of

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00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: them could win the AFC and last but not least,

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00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 1: don't love the coach, but I'm picking Herbert to win

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Speaker 1: the MVP. Like, I think they could win eleven games.

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Speaker 1: With twelve games, Chiefs, you know, probably just get them

474
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Speaker 1: on a on a tiebreaker, sweep them or whatever. So

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Speaker 1: go with the Chiefs to win the division just because

476
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Speaker 1: you have to. But I'm picking Herbert to win the MVP.

477
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: So I got the Bills, the Bengals, and the Chargers

478
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: as my wild card teams. And until someone knocks out KC,

479
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Speaker 1: I'm just taking a case. I'm prefair to be wrong.

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Speaker 1: I do. I do like Pittsburgh, but how do I

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Speaker 1: pull the trigger? Can he picket over Mahomes? And I know,

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00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, Kelsey could be limping around out there, Chris

483
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: Jones could be at home eating ice cream until someone

484
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 1: kao's the Chiefs. I'm just I'm just rolling with them.

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Speaker 1: The Nfcuh, this one's pretty easy with me. On the West,

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Speaker 1: the Niners, I mean they proved it last year. They

487
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Speaker 1: swept Seattle, they swept the division. Obviously, Arizona's gonna be terrible.

488
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: I think the Rams could even be worse when the

489
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Speaker 1: injuries really start kicking in here. And the Niners swept

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Speaker 1: Seattle three times because they played him in a playoff

491
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: game as well. So I like Seattle, but I can't.

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Speaker 1: I know Colin picked them the way to the division.

493
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Speaker 1: I know some other people who went picked him to

494
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Speaker 1: win the division. This is not like a Homer bias pick.

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Speaker 1: I just I think the Niners are better the NFC South.

496
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Speaker 1: Mike Fresno State bulldog Jay Hayn got spending six games

497
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: for Pedes. Luckily he's the third string quarterback. I think

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00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: the Saints have absolutely no excuse not to win this division.

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Speaker 1: There's no way I can pick Atlanta. I don't like

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Speaker 1: their quarterback at all. There's no way I can pick Carolina.

501
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: They just got weird stuff going on. And in Tampa,

502
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: obviously he's gonna stink as well. So this one, I

503
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: don't even see how you go outside the box on

504
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: this one. I guess maybe Atlanta if somehow Ritter proves

505
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: to be like some Kenny Pickett mac Jones level player,

506
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: I don't see that. I'm going with the Saints. I

507
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: think Derek Carr, I think he's gonna have a good

508
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: season the NFC North. To me, this one's pretty easy.

509
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: Like I don't understand the people that don't like the Lions.

510
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: Their offense is excellent, like elite. Their offense is fantastic.

511
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: Their offense is going to dominate. And then defensively, yeah,

512
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: they got some question marks obviously the second there are

513
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: some question marks. Their defensive line could kick some serious ass.

514
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: I expect Aiden Hutchinson to have that classic second year

515
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: like fifteen plus sacks. I think Aiden Hutchs when the

516
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: dust settles this year, feels like a fringe all pro

517
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: level guy. Right, there's that top group, right Bosa, TJ.

518
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: Watt if you want an Parsons linebacker, but he's in

519
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: that group, the elite edge rushers. I think Aiden Miles

520
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: Garrett his name's gonna be talked about at least entering

521
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: kind of where those guys sit at the table, you know, like, hey,

522
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: you guys, got an extra seat for me? I think

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00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: that conversation is gonna start. I don't like the Lions.

524
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: I love the Lions. I think they win that division

525
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: pretty easily. Who else are gonna pick? One of my

526
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: bold takes is I don't think Jordan loves the quarterback

527
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four for the Packers, the Bears, Like,

528
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, even if Fields is better than he was

529
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: last year, their defense could be hitty, it could be terrible.

530
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: I think their defense is gonna be awful to me.

531
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: The Bears, even if things go well, are much closer

532
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: to an eight win team than they are like ten.

533
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: And yeah, the Vikings. The Vikings would make me a

534
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: little nervous for sure. Cousins is the most proven quarterback

535
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: in the division. I know Goff has gotten farther in

536
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, but Cousins numbers relative to Golf, even though

537
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: last year they were basically very similar, I'm not. I

538
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: actually kind of like the Vikings more this year than

539
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: I did last year. You get Brian Flores a little

540
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: better on defense, but that one score game. Think they

541
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: come back to earth. I think you can win this

542
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: division at ten and seven, and that's why I think

543
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: the Lions do. But they're just a very solid team

544
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: on a weekly basis. And then I think on the East,

545
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Speaker 1: I'm going outside the box a little bit. I think

546
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 1: everyone's picking the Eagles. I love the Eagles too, Like

547
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm not acting like the Eagles aren't going to be

548
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: sweet this year. I'm just going with Dallas. I think

549
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: Dallas a lot, like I said with the Jets, like

550
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, and the Steelers are going to

551
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: have an elite defense. They are awesome at every level. Offensively, obviously,

552
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: McCarthy's some question marks right he's calling the plays. He

553
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: gets rid of Kellen Moore, But how would the Eagles

554
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: not have the same that they have a brand new

555
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: coordinator on offense and defense. So what the Cowboys have

556
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: is consistency on defense, all the same players back, same

557
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: coordinator back. I think we all acknowledge now Fangio and

558
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: some of the top defensive coordinator. I'm trying to think

559
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: Brian Flores Demiko was that he moved on. He's a

560
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: head coach. Now, Isn't Dan Quinn viewed in that level

561
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: like he's an elite defensive coordinator? So I'm going Dallas now.

562
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: I love that division. Part of it is I think

563
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles and the winner of this division could be

564
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: like twelve eleven ten. That's why I like the Eagles

565
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: and the Giants both to make wildcard spots. I actually

566
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: don't think there's that much crazy turnover in the NFC,

567
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: and typically every year, right you got new teams in,

568
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: new teams out. Most of these teams, like in the NFC,

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00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: the Niners were in it, the Cowboys were in it,

570
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,959
Speaker 1: the Eagles were in it, the Giants were in it,

571
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: Seattle was in it. Like those are the teams I'm taking. Obviously,

572
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: the Saints flip flop with Tampa and Detroit flip flops

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00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: with Minnesota. But I really don't have that much crazy

574
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: turnover in my playoff teams, because like, how am I

575
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: betting against all these sweet quarterbacks? You know, I guess

576
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: you could be like, well, Sean Payton. Sean Payton told

577
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson stopped being a politician. You're not running for office.

578
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: You don't change who you are at thirty four of

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Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars in the bank. So it's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm out on that. The Raiders I kind of wanted

581
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: to believe. I kind of wanted to pick them over

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00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: the Chargers, and then one of their starting pass rushers

583
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: has just gone a wall. So that's and they're the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: So how am I supposed to pick Listen? I don't

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00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: like Brandon Saley either, but they got Justin Herbert and

586
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: I like him a lot more in Jimmy Garoppolo. So

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Speaker 1: Philly Giant Seattle, I think there's playoffs. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes are with Kansas City, I

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Speaker 1: I just can't bet against them, right so until they

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Speaker 1: real receiving options besides sky Moore and MVS. I'm honestly

636
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Speaker 1: going to chalk up the Kelsey thing do a little

637
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: freak injury because I ran into him at the golf

638
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: course probably six months ago. I thought he looked fantastic.

639
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: Just seeing clips in practice, sure looks good to me.

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Speaker 1: I think hyper extending a knee, I would chock it

641
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: up to a freak deal. Now if the season goes

642
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Speaker 1: and he doesn't look like the same guy once he

643
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: gets healthy, And as I'm recording this, I think it's

644
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: more than up in the air that he's gonna play

645
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Speaker 1: on Thursday. Yeah, then I think it's okay to ask

646
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: that question when the season ends. But I don't think

647
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Speaker 1: he's ever shown any signs of slowing down, not even close.

648
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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, i'd push back there in

649
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Speaker 1: terms of worrying about him. Is it just me or

650
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: is there a ton of NFL quarterback talent in college

651
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: football this year like more than usual. I feel like

652
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: the next two quarterback classes could be insane. Would love

653
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: to hear your perspective as a former scout. Nix Sanders, McCarthy,

654
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: Pennix Williams may Rattler question. Yeah, I think i'd make

655
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: him a question. The penn State guy. Haven't watched Milton

656
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: and Tennessee. I haven't watched yours. I'm still up in

657
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: the air on Hartman looks sweet. I was talking to

658
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: someone the other day, I'm like, how did Florida end

659
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: up with Graham Mertz? And this person in college football

660
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: was like, because they went all in on Sam Hartman

661
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: and they didn't really have a backup plan, and then

662
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Speaker 1: he went to Notre Dame. That's what I love about

663
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: the transfer portal with quarterbacks. It's like free agency. You

664
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Speaker 1: put all your chips in the middle of the table,

665
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: and then the guy pivoted Dart cam Rising, Jayden Daniels. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think you listed a decent amount of first rounders

667
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Speaker 1: and then a lot of mid round picks. So anytime

668
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: you get that many that much talent, I'm with you.

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00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: Just a ton of guys. I have two college quarterback

670
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: mailbag questions for you, Is DJ ngoule a a legit

671
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: NFL prospect? These announcers act like he's a love child

672
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: of Lway and Tom Brady, but he couldn't hack it

673
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: at Clemson. Also, I know Notre Dame hasn't played anybody,

674
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: but Sam Hartman is a legit NFL prospect. Question. I

675
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Speaker 1: would say the thing with DJ, Oregon State's gonna be

676
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: really good. Their coach, Jonathan Smith is a stud. We

677
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 1: just got to watch him play real teams, and that

678
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: to me is Oregon Washington. Does Oregon State play Utah

679
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: this year? Obviously? USC once I see him play top

680
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: notch competition. Jonathan Smith is a real offensive mind, so

681
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna make DJ look better. Now. The knock on

682
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: DJ is he kind of played like Trey Lance plays,

683
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: very robotic, no feel. I watched a little bit of

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Speaker 1: the game against San Jose State. Clearly through three touchdowns

685
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: ran for two as well. He looked I would say

686
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: a little better, but like you said, the competition to

687
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: me hard to judge. Could he be drafted in the

688
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: late rounds for sure, but right now it'd be hard

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00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: to call him, quote unquote a legit NFL prospect. The

690
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: only knock on Hartman that anyone ever says is his age.

691
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: I think he's twenty four years old. I mean, look

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Speaker 1: this up. So Sam Hartman is twenty four years old?

693
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: Does wiki have his actual birthday? Jill? So he just

694
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Speaker 1: turned twenty four. So if you draft Hartman next year,

695
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: he will be twenty five. So he's older, right, I

696
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: mean I think Lamar Jackson's twenty five years old. Nick

697
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: Bose is twenty five years Obviously he's a little old.

698
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Speaker 1: But if he is really good and like DJ at

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00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: a higher level, Notre Dame's gonna play a ton of

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00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: big time teams, and how he looks in those games,

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00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: if he dominates, what if he goes toe to toe

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00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: with Caleb Williams. I mean that could easily happen, and

703
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: if he does, people are gonna like him, And yeah,

704
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: is it ideal? Like Chris Wink what was a guy's name,

705
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: Brandon Whedon, I don't want to draft twenty seven to

706
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: twenty eight year old quarterbacks. But if he's really good

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna be twenty five, is it crazy to

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Speaker 1: take him in the second round. I definitely think that's

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00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: on the table right now, that he is someone is

710
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: just very intriguing to a lot of people here. You

711
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: speak about finance a lot. Do you invest in reality income?

712
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: The stock has really been crashing, and I was wondering

713
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: if this is the time to buy. I don't I

714
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: have it. I honestly don't really know much about it.

715
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: Not against real estate stock. Is that? Is that a

716
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: commercial real estate stock or like a rate or like

717
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: a like a home builder stock. I don't. I honestly don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the answer because I don't know much

719
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Speaker 1: about it. Okay, longtime listener, I personally think we made

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00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: a big mistake by signing Derek Carr. I think he's good,

721
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: but good isn't good enough, especially with a coach that

722
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: is nothing more than a good DC. I think we

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00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: should have signed someone more mediocre, like a Mayfield or

724
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: Darnold and end up with a good quarterback in next

725
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: year's draft and hire a new offensive coach. I just

726
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: think Carr will win enough games to keep us out

727
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: of the top quarterback picks. Would love to hear your opinion.

728
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying, But you guys were going

729
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: to operate like that. You've invested too much money into players.

730
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: You made the crazy draft pick last year that cost

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00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: you a high pick. Mickey Loomis is not trying to lose,

732
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: and listen, I have more than enough questions on Dennis Allen,

733
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: but you have no excuse not to win this division.

734
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Speaker 1: And anytime you win a division, you host a playoff game.

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00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: So to me, if you win the division, and there's

736
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: obviously if you win the division it's seven to ten,

737
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: that's an embarrassment. But if you are a double digit

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00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: win team ten to eleven wins, host a playoff game.

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00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: If you host a playoff game, now even if that's Cowboys, Eagles, Giants,

740
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: you might even be the underdog in that game, but

741
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: you can win at home. That place is bananas. It's

742
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: a very tough place to play. I would say, if

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Speaker 1: you win the division and host a playoff game and

744
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: definitely win it, that's a very very successful season and

745
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: that's that way better for the fan base than doing

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00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: what you want to do, which they were just not

747
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm a ups driver in El Pasa. I've

748
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: been there, and your podcast is might go to any

749
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: chance you put one out. I like this guy excited

750
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: for all the content coming from the NFL season is

751
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: upon us. Now that Bosa got paid, what do you

752
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: think parsons landscape looks like. Well, now that Nick Blew

753
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: so far by all the other guys that are like

754
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and one hundred and five million dollars and

755
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: he's at that one hundred and twenty two guaranteed spot.

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00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: I think Parsons, you know, if he has another really

757
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: good year, somewhere between one hundred and twenty five and

758
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty million dollars. So that's what makes

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00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: this season very interesting for the Cowboys. We have a

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00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: ballpark of what Micah Parsons is gonna get paid. One

761
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five hundred and thirty guaranteed one hundred

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00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: and seventy one hundred and seventy five one hundred and

763
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: eighty million dollar contract. Well, Jerry is openly discussed. We're

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Speaker 1: extending Dak. We're extending Dak. We're gonna pay Dak. That

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00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. So next off season or this offseason

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00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: and next offseason. I meant like during the season and

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00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: then in March April they're gonna give three hundred and

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00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars or whatever. You know, I don't know

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00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: exact guarantee, but what's DAK guarantee? At minimum one point

770
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: eighty Parsons getting one thirty, that's a lot of guaranteed

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00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: money to be given out, especially when you factor in

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00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: how much money they've just given out this training camp gave.

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00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: Aren't a boost paid Diggs, paid hooker. Jerry's been cutting

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00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: a lot of checks as a diehard Raider fan. Why

775
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: does this organization always have drama? Going back to Marcus

776
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: Allen and more recently ab and now it seems like

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00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. I would think him being a piece of

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00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: the McDaniels Ziegler players, that he would be the last

779
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: dude to be drama. Anyways, not sure what you think

780
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: this year. It always seems like my Raiders are unstable.

781
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm not gonna jump ship like that, silly

782
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: New England fan. You can't make this up. I will

783
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: say this, and I remember a couple of years ago

784
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: I wanted the Niners to side Chandler Jones because he

785
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: is a freaked own. He's really really good, but he's

786
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: kind of a question mark. And we don't have the

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00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: details on this situation, but when you sign question marks,

788
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: you can't be totally stunned. Now. The Marcus Allen situation

789
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: was before my time. I've heard some rumors over the years,

790
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: but I don't know. You'd have to ask, like Howie

791
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: Long or people they were actually there, what the hell

792
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: was going on? The ab situation like shocking. Antonio Brown

793
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: went nutjob. You know. So when you sign crazy people,

794
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: or when you sign character flags or draft character flags

795
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: and then you get issues, you cannot be shocked. When

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00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: you sign high level, high character guys, you usually don't

797
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: have problems right now. Anyone at any moment can have

798
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: a situation. But I think the Raiders are a good

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00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: example of They signed guys with some baggage, and when

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00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: you sign guys with some baggage, sometimes that baggage comes

801
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: to fruition. And then that baggage is Week one and

802
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: you're preparing for the Denver Broncos, and then before even

803
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: practice shit starts hitting the fan usually comes back to

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Speaker 1: ownership and leadership. Been a listener since the beginning. God,

805
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: I like you guys. I'm in the league and I'm

806
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: wondering which to start wide receiver Jordan Addison versus the

807
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: Bucks or Jackson Smith versus the Rams love the pod.

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00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: That's a pretty good question. See this is why I'm

809
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: not a good fantasy guy. I think i'd go Jackson

810
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: Smith against the Ramps. I think the Rams defense is

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Speaker 1: not gonna be good. This guy clearly dominated in practice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd go I'd go in Jigbo. Curious to hear your

813
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: opinion on this nil situation. Former Florida football defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: Gervin Dexter Senior, I think he was drafted by the

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Speaker 1: Bears is suing as filed a lawsuit in Gainesville contending

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Speaker 1: that his future earnings clause in a four hundred and

817
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: thirty six thousand dollars NIL deal he signed violated loss.

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Speaker 1: Per the terms of the deal Dexter signed with Big

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Speaker 1: League Advance Fund LLC got that one red Flag, a

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Speaker 1: company based in Delaware, Dexter would forfeit fifteen percent of

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Speaker 1: his future NFL earnings for the next twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: Dexter signed the deal in March twenty two. I think

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Speaker 1: that these deals are probably so per throughout college football.

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00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: I actually stumbled upon Shiloh Sanders page, his Instagram page

825
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: and one of his NIL deals. Clearly they had set

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Speaker 1: it up. This guy was like interviewing him, but he

827
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Speaker 1: was in on the on the video basically asking Shiloh

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Speaker 1: does he know that he has to pay taxes on

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Speaker 1: all his nil deals? And it was an ad for

830
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: turbo tax. And I've always thought, like, I wonder if

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Speaker 1: a lot of these kids realize that when you get

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Speaker 1: a ten ninety nine of one hundred grand, of three

833
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: hundred grand, of six hundred grand, like you get tax

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Speaker 1: on some of that, depending on where you live, a

835
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Speaker 1: quarter of that half of it, who knows. And I

836
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Speaker 1: wonder if some of these guys are gonna get murky water,

837
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Speaker 1: because if you gave me two hundred grand at nineteen

838
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: years old, I'd probably blow it all. I wouldn't know

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Speaker 1: that I have to pay taxes. And then clearly you

840
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: have these shady operations that are fronting money, which I

841
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: thought was a loan shark, but I guess the way

842
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: they're doing this, it's not illegal. These kids don't even

843
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: realize what they don't even realize. No one does. Most

844
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: guys at seventeen to twenty two aren't exactly warn buffet

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Speaker 1: with an Excel spreadsheet mapping out their life. We kind

846
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: of live day to day. Most I don't care if

847
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: you play football at Florida or you're a student at

848
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: you know, Chico State, Shout out Mark Davis, he's an

849
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: alumni there. You would do dumb deals. So when I say, hey,

850
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: i'll give you four hundred grand, you just sign all

851
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: this paperwork, and in that paperwork it has shit like that.

852
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: I think that is happening probably all over the place.

853
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: It happened to some baseball players. One thing I read

854
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: is it was based on net income in the NFL,

855
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: So if you signed for twenty million dollars, you owe

856
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: me fifteen percent of that twenty million dollars, even though

857
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: anyone knows that you don't actually get the twenty million dollars,

858
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: You only get twelve or whatever right after taxes. So

859
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: anytime moneyes is involved, right in any industry, that's big money,

860
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: millions of dollars, and then you factor in young people.

861
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: It could be music, it could be athletics, it could

862
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: be anything. Crypto, you get shady shit happening, and you

863
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: get shady operators involved because they can pray on people.

864
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna see more and more of

865
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: these type stories where a guy got screwed or a

866
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: guy got taken advantage of. And you know, this is

867
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: the hard part. And I don't know the details on

868
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: this besides what I just read. What if someone came

869
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: to you, if you were twenty years old, you're the

870
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 1: starting linebacker at let's say Michigan or LSU I'm gonna

871
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: offer you a million dollars and it's pretty clear like

872
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna be you know, Micah Parsons or Nick Bosa.

873
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: But maybe not even that, maybe because I think those

874
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: guys would have enough people around them to maybe help,

875
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: but maybe they don't and go, hey, I'll give you

876
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: a million dollars cash right now. Sign this stuff. And

877
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: you go, shit, you're give me a million dollars cash

878
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: right now? You sign it, and it's one of those deals. Well,

879
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: what if you actually signed it? You know, you'd have

880
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: to get some really good lawyers to fight. And at

881
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: the end of the day, maybe they know that best

882
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: case that they're gonna get payouts. You're gonna get some

883
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, buyouts, like hey, you just cut me a

884
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: couple million dollars and we'll go away. Sucks. You know,

885
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: this this nil deal where there's no rules or regulations involved.

886
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: I know, technically they have some, but no one's following

887
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: any of it is just ripe for craziness. Quick question,

888
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: is Cincinnati and Seattle a good dark horse pick for

889
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Might be worth future bets here? To me,

890
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: would be fantastic. You know, if you're not gonna go

891
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: Niners or Eagles, people are gonna think I'm crazy. But

892
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: I don't think Dallas is a crazy bet. I don't

893
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: think Pittsburgh's a crazy bet. And as long as you

894
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: got Burrow and Josh Allen, I mean the Bills in

895
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: the Bengals, you get start quarterbacks. Like, look at the

896
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: history of the guys that make the Super Bowl, it's

897
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: usually stuts. I mean, Brady and Manning made it forever.

898
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Josh Allen and Joe Burrow are

899
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: Brady and Manning yet, but it feels like they're on

900
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: that trajectory. I mean, we're just the reason I'm taking

901
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Why they got Mahomes. What am I supposed

902
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: to do bet against Mahomes? So yeah, not bad value

903
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: at all. Okay, A couple more questions started listening to

904
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 1: the Go Lo podcast and now three and out Golfer,

905
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: which team do you feel has the best value to

906
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: win ten games and have a chance at the Super Bowl. Thanks,

907
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: and let's win some money this season. I mean, I

908
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: think the Steelers. I really like the Steelers. I think

909
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: they're going to be really, really good. You know, I

910
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: bet imagine the Jets. Odds aren't great. It's hard to

911
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: pick Detroit, but it's not like Jared Goff's ever been there. Now,

912
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: the Rams defense was a lot better, at least in

913
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: the secondary than this Detroit team, so I'd probably say Steelers.

914
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: I'm an Australian who over the last few years has

915
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: really got into the NFL. Happy to have you, mate,

916
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: but I don't have a team. I followed whoever Brady

917
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 1: was playing for, but now need to choose someone. I'm

918
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: tossing between the Lions as I'm a fan of the

919
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: coach Chicago as I followed Justin Fields since watching QB

920
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: one and still feel like it's plenty of upside and

921
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: the Broncos mainly because of Shannon Sharp and Manning being

922
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: great listen to now, do you have any advice on

923
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: how to pick? This has to be a pretty fun exercise.

924
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 1: You know, most of us that live here in the States,

925
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: like I'm sure you in Australia, when you root for

926
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: your hometown teams, it just comes natural. Usually root for

927
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: a team that where you grow up, or a parent

928
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: or a brother or someone likes right, you gravitate to it.

929
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: I can't imagine being older not having a team, just

930
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: being like I want a team. I kind of honestly

931
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: did that in college football with Alabama. It's like, I

932
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: just like Nick Saban, so I've just watched their games

933
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: for the last decade just because I enjoy kicking. I

934
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: didn't really have a college football team. I'm kind of

935
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: a college football no mad like that. I think my

936
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: team this year is Washington. I'm just not going to

937
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: miss their games because I love Pennix. But that's a

938
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: good question. I think I'd probably go with Detroit or Chicago,

939
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: because if that team ever wins a Super Bowl, let's

940
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: just say in the next five to ten years somehow,

941
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: especially in Detroit, it would be the most incredible accomplishment

942
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: we've ever seen. If the Detroit Lions win the Super

943
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: Bowl one day, especially with Dan Campbell, it'd be an

944
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: All Times Sports story. Now I would say they're better

945
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: than the Bears. So your chances of just being good

946
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: right away are better, But I don't think you can

947
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: go wrong with Detroit or Chicago. The Broncos. You know,

948
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: I'd go Detroit Chicago. Would you think the Niners would

949
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: ever consider a Nick Bosa trade for the Raiders with

950
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,479
Speaker 1: Max Crosby and a first Raiders get the best pass

951
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: rusher in the game and the Niners get an elite

952
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: pass rusher on a much cheaper deal, top fifteen pick potentially,

953
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: I don't think the Raiders would do that. Hear me out.

954
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: I think Nick Bosa is a better player than Max,

955
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: but Max is pretty freaking good in Max is on

956
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: easily one of the best contracts in the NFL, and

957
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: the Raiders still need a lot of talent. So that

958
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: first round pick is very valuable. So you have Max Crosby.

959
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: This is if we just factor in before he signed

960
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: on a much much cheaper deal than Nick Bosa. So

961
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: even though if if Max is a eight and a

962
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: half and Nick Bosa is a ten, it's like, well,

963
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: when you factor in the money, he's ten million dollars cheaper,

964
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: and that first round pick is very, very valuable to you.

965
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: So I think both sides would say no. I think

966
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers Boas. Is their guy cool with

967
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: paying him? Obviously they did, and I think the Raiders

968
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: go listen, the gap isn't that wide. We love our

969
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: guy and he's way cheaper, and we need first round

970
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: Have you seen some of the guys we play on defense?

971
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 1: So we need to get Max some help. We can't

972
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: afford to give a round way first round picks. But

973
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: I like what you're thinking there. I really do Max

974
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: Crosby right now, go Google. His contract is easily one

975
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,479
Speaker 1: of the best deals in all of the NFL. Okay,

976
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: last question, As a fellow Arizonian, I really enjoy your podcast,

977
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: listen to it every day. Do you think Caleb Williams

978
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: might stay at USC for one more year to avoid

979
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: getting drafted by the Cardinals? Well, obviously, Kay. Caleb his

980
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: father did an interview I think with GQ gave a

981
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: bunch of quotes about like, you know how the NFL, Like, Yeah, Caleb,

982
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: Caleb's dad in the NFL, you go to the worst team.

983
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: We've all been following the draft our entire lives. In

984
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: college football, the best players usually go to the best teams.

985
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: It's the opposite. Now. I didn't read that much into

986
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 1: it because I think he was specifically talking about the Cardinals.

987
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: It's like he watched that Jonathan Gannon video, right, he

988
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: wants no part of that. But part of it is

989
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: Caleb's never gonna go to a sweet team because all

990
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: the sweet teams they all have quarterbacks and they all

991
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: draft in the twenties, so they can try to go

992
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: Eli Manning and I would expect them to do that

993
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: if they did not want to go to the place

994
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: as drafting one one. But even if you don't go one,

995
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: you still go two or three, right, or you get

996
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: do the trade thing. So it's it's not like you

997
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: end up with the You're on the Chiefs or the

998
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. That's just not gonna happen. So I

999
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: think that was specifically they want no part of the

1000
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. That that would be my guess. But what

1001
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: if I told you the LA Ram said the worst record?

1002
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: Is he cool with going to Sean McVay? Could? I

1003
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: bet he would be. The other thing is if you

1004
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: go one, you do get more money. And I understand

1005
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: Caleb is making five million dollars. Google how much the

1006
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: number one overall pick in the NFL makes. It's like

1007
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: forty million dollars guaranteed and then if you're good, you immediately.

1008
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: The other thing is you start your clock. Why do

1009
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: NBA guys always join the go to the draft right

1010
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: because they like they want to start their clock for

1011
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: their second contract. So it's like, yeah, you can go

1012
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: back to USC for another five million dollars, or you

1013
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: can just go into the NFL draft. Kick Assen in

1014
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: three years signed for two hundred million dollars guaranteed, and

1015
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: then with the two contracts have already made two hundred

1016
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars. So I think it's easy to

1017
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: say that now. I think they're under no circumstances that

1018
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 1: Kayleb Williams ever plays another year at USC. I'd be stunned.

1019
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: I really would risk getting injured. You're going to the

1020
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: I almost at the SEC. They're going to the Big

1021
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: ten next year. USC is not in the SEC. They're

1022
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: going to the Big ten. But it's listen, I know everyone,

1023
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: especially a guy like him, are making a lot of money.

1024
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: You make way more money in the NFL, way more money.

1025
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: In news flash, you do not have to go to class.

1026
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: Now you could argue he ain't going to class. Now,

1027
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: I don't know some guys go to class, some guys don't.

1028
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: But listen, Caleb, What's what's he gonna learn in class?

1029
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: It's about football. He's gonna be a pro football player,

1030
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: as he should be. But I think it's easy. You know,

1031
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: I heard in the recruiting circles. I think Caleb's dad

1032
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: is pretty active in this whole thing. And you know,

1033
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: sometimes you want to feel important. And I'm not even

1034
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: saying he's wrong. I'm sure they've had discussions. Caleb Williams

1035
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: will be in this draft. Now, does he refuse to

1036
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: go to a certain team. I'm all for that. I'd

1037
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 1: find that very interesting. It'd be a great story. I'd

1038
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: love to talk about it, but I'll believe it when

1039
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: I see it. Have a great day, enjoy the game

1040
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: to night. Let's roll Baby. The volume