WEBVTT - The Long March to Election Day

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to OK Daily with Meet

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<v Speaker 1>your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as we take this long march, the ten

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<v Speaker 1>months it is going to take to get to election day,

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<v Speaker 1>there is so much, so much that is going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>There is so much that is going to test our faith,

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<v Speaker 1>to test our perseverance, to test our sanity. And I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot express enough how important it is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of yourself on a daily basis, to

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<v Speaker 1>whatever that looks like right, to take care of those

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<v Speaker 1>around you, to check in with people. How are you feeling,

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<v Speaker 1>How is your heart? How is your energy?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Not just the how are you? Oh, I'm fine, and

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<v Speaker 1>keep moving on, because to be honest, folks, none of

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<v Speaker 1>us are fucking fine. All of us are dealing and

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<v Speaker 1>reeling from a lot. That's why rest is important, but

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<v Speaker 1>continued conversation is really important. And that's why today I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really excited and happy to welcome back to wokf Veronicor,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the executive director of the AAPI Victory Alliance.

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<v Speaker 1>Why I'm excited to welcome him back is because we

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<v Speaker 1>get into a conversation of course, about the AAPI community

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<v Speaker 1>and where he believes the most important issue to lie

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<v Speaker 1>and how they have changed over the course of the

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<v Speaker 1>last election, but also why this younger demographic in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of how it is, you know, measured against the black community,

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<v Speaker 1>the LATINX community and others. How twenty twenty was really

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<v Speaker 1>the first time that this community, this very diverse, big

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<v Speaker 1>community of twenty four million people showed up for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, and will they show up again in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four and if so, for who, and if so

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<v Speaker 1>why so Varun and I get into a deep conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about what the stakes are, what his fears are, because

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<v Speaker 1>let us not forget what the Trump administry and Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump said and did during the beginning of COVID while

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<v Speaker 1>trying to pinpoint what would be a global pandemic on

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<v Speaker 1>one demographic, and how the violence against that community escalated

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<v Speaker 1>to numbers that they had not seen. And so what

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<v Speaker 1>happens to the AAPI community if another Trump administration were

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. So while we plan right for while we

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<v Speaker 1>expect the best, we plan for the worst. So Veron

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<v Speaker 1>and I get into a really honest conversation about how

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<v Speaker 1>his organization is planning and how AAPI Victory Aligned is

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the existential threat that MAGA supremacy poses to

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<v Speaker 1>the AAPI community and the country at large. Folks, I

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<v Speaker 1>am very happy and excited to welcome back in this

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<v Speaker 1>new year, Executive Director of AAPI Victory Alliance, Varun nekur

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<v Speaker 1>to wokf and Varun, I want to start out with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was funny I was looking through your

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<v Speaker 1>statement for twenty twenty three as you close out the year,

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<v Speaker 1>and it said, you know, off years are supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be like quiet years, like we're just supposed to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be able to breathe through them, and it just be

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<v Speaker 1>in preparation for the next election cycle. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>not at all what twenty twenty three, or frankly any

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<v Speaker 1>of the years have felt like as of late. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I wanted to give you an opportunity to tell us,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how you felt, you know, as you had time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in a course of reflection of the last

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<v Speaker 1>year of closing down twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you and great to be with you Danielle again,

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<v Speaker 2>and a pleasure to speak to you and your your

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<v Speaker 2>fantastic audience. It was a year of consternation, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there was so many cross curnts happening, not only in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States, but geopolitically, right, I mean, right, we

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<v Speaker 2>hit the anniversary of the Ukraine War, we had another

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunate milestone in the attacks in Israel and the resulting

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<v Speaker 2>war in Gaza, and it's pervading, I think in our

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<v Speaker 2>domestic politics today. Certainly, I think that's a concern of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot out of a lot of people, but primarily

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of younger people that we rely on as

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<v Speaker 2>our core base on the left. And then, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think too looking at how the Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>are getting prepped for their primary in a matter of

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<v Speaker 2>one week, the Iowa caucuses, and then shortly thereafter the

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<v Speaker 2>other successive you know, primaries and caucuses. So we're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of getting a glimpse, if you will, of what's ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think as we looked at twenty twenty three, right,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, as you mentioned, was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>the down year. It was supposed to be the year

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<v Speaker 2>that you could perhaps take a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>breather because you knew twenty four was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>busy the presidential year. It really wasn't because we you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at least organizers like me, executive directors who run organizations

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<v Speaker 2>like my like mine. You know, we all know what's

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<v Speaker 2>really ahead, and we felt I think, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to speak for everyone, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we were all very much in preparation mode, knowing that

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<v Speaker 2>we know the boogeyman that Donald Trump is because we

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<v Speaker 2>had four years of him, and we know we don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to go back. And yet in some ways we

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<v Speaker 2>feel like there's a lot of ground that we have

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<v Speaker 2>to retread, right, we have to write. We didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>we would have to necessarily motivate our own core base

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<v Speaker 2>to the extent that we're looking at all the pulling

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<v Speaker 2>and saying, oh my gosh, yeah, we haven't done a

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<v Speaker 2>great job with black people. We haven't done it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's still a lot of work to do with with

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<v Speaker 2>latinos Asians. You know, we're sort of the new kid

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<v Speaker 2>on the block, if you will. In terms of the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty election, you know, it was sort of in

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<v Speaker 2>some ways our coming out ceremony from the perspective of

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<v Speaker 2>there was fifty percent of all the voters in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty in the API realm. We're first time voters, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're looking at next year saying, wow, we we

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of work to do with our own days. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't even speak to you know, how most elections

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<v Speaker 2>are decided, which are folks in the middle, the so

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<v Speaker 2>called persuadable voters. That's not even talking about the persuadable voters, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So we have to shore up our base, which means

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<v Speaker 2>we have to do a better job speaking about how

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's a lot of negatives about the economy. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 2>inflation is still too high, but we've seen it coming down.

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<v Speaker 2>Gas prices are coming down. But I think we on

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<v Speaker 2>the left haven't done a really great job in speaking

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<v Speaker 2>about economic populism in a way that that's really gaining

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<v Speaker 2>any traction with younger people and even the middle class

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<v Speaker 2>folks that you know, live paycheck to page, people who

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<v Speaker 2>now have to restart paying their student loans. We've done

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<v Speaker 2>a good job, and I don't know why, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>why are we having these conversations every two years, every

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<v Speaker 2>four years? Wow, you know, we really suck at this

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<v Speaker 2>and we get to a better job. But we obviously

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<v Speaker 2>do right because we're looking at the pony. We're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the data and it's all pointing in the same direction.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have a lot of work to do before

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<v Speaker 2>we even get into the main center of the fight,

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<v Speaker 2>which is fighting for those you know, three to five

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<v Speaker 2>percent of people in the middle. Just imagine we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to spend about four billion dollars on this election to

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<v Speaker 2>speak to that three to five percent in the middle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we got a lot of work to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think we're we're a lot smarter than we

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<v Speaker 2>were at this point in time four years ago, eight

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. But I think at least this time we've

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot more clarity about the fight ahead versus

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<v Speaker 2>we were really shocked in surprise when we woke up

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<v Speaker 2>on you know, election day eight years ago when Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump got elected.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I want to talk for a minute about

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<v Speaker 1>the stat that you mentioned with regard to fifty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the AAPI voters in twenty twenty were first time voters.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what prompted folks for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>to decide to go into the voting boots. And do

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<v Speaker 1>you suspect that there is still energy there for them

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<v Speaker 1>to return four years later?

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<v Speaker 2>That is the big question. I mean, you hit the

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<v Speaker 2>nail on the head. And I think the only evidence

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<v Speaker 2>that we have that perhaps there is a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more gas in the tank is the fact that we

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<v Speaker 2>looked at all these elections in states prior to today, the

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia election in most recently last year, where we were

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<v Speaker 2>able to flip the state House in Virginia and so

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<v Speaker 2>and then you looked at all the elections where abortion

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<v Speaker 2>was on the ballot, and the anecdotal data from those

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<v Speaker 2>elections in Ohio, in Kansas, all those other states point

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<v Speaker 2>to continued enthusiasm at least on this issue. Right. But

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<v Speaker 2>that being said, there's probably more that we still don't

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<v Speaker 2>know about what drives the API community. And that's why

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<v Speaker 2>at least you know, as we look forward in planning

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<v Speaker 2>about next year. For next year, we I think we

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<v Speaker 2>can point to some other issues like gun violence, which

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<v Speaker 2>is now ticked up the ranks in terms of priority

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<v Speaker 2>for not only our community, but others that I think

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<v Speaker 2>we have to speak to not only our community but

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<v Speaker 2>all communities that this is not necessarily going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a single issue election, right that if we had a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of tactical diversity in how we campaign next year,

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<v Speaker 2>that perhaps we can achieve gains that not only get

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<v Speaker 2>us certain levels of win at the top of the ballot,

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<v Speaker 2>but where we really need them to have a strong democracy,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's in the bottom of the ballot, right. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why state ledge races, city council races, court circuit court races.

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<v Speaker 2>These are all like the bedrock of our society, in

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<v Speaker 2>our democracy, and we can't let our foot off the

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<v Speaker 2>gas there more than anywhere. And that's unfortunately the areas

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<v Speaker 2>of our electoral politics that get the least amount of

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<v Speaker 2>attention until it's late in the process, they get the

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<v Speaker 2>least amount of money. They're not as sexy because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not for Congress, it's not for Senate, it's not for

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<v Speaker 2>the presidency. And so one of the things that we

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<v Speaker 2>looked at as we were doing all this planning and

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<v Speaker 2>preparing in twenty twenty three was how do we develop

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<v Speaker 2>a strategy such that if we were to lose at

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<v Speaker 2>the top, if we were to lose the Senate, if

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<v Speaker 2>we were to lose the White House at the very least,

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<v Speaker 2>where could we get some gains that could be our

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<v Speaker 2>insurance policy, and that is in the states. So we

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<v Speaker 2>looked at states that where perhaps we can flip a

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<v Speaker 2>state Senate or a state you know, house to delegates.

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona is a great case where if we you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're close, we're in a deficit, but we're close to

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps knocking off some incumbents that could turn the tide

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<v Speaker 2>for us, and that could preserve Arizona as a state

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, you know has for example, reproductive freedoms

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<v Speaker 2>you know, cemented in their state constitution. Right. So we

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<v Speaker 2>looked at all those states when we were developing our

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<v Speaker 2>campaign plan, and it's really more bottom up focused than

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<v Speaker 2>it is top down. We'll have plenty of time to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Joe Biden, We'll have plenty of time to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about federal races. They're not going to starve if

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<v Speaker 2>we don't help them directly today. But where we need

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<v Speaker 2>the most attention is on those lower rungs of the

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<v Speaker 2>ladder because there's not as much attention paid. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>household names people can't name, oftentimes as their local state center. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's really what we're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I wonder too, because you had brought up

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<v Speaker 1>the wins that we had seen, particularly around those states

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<v Speaker 1>that put up amendments around abortion right that abortion, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>outside of what Democrats have believed for decades, is actually

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<v Speaker 1>a very key issue for more than half of the

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<v Speaker 1>popular And I wonder how you find, as you're listing

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<v Speaker 1>out the priorities in gun violence having ticked back up,

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<v Speaker 1>where you see the AAPI community as it relates to abortion.

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<v Speaker 1>And just recently, you know, you have Missouri Republicans coming

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<v Speaker 1>out and proposing legislation that will most likely pass to

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<v Speaker 1>have the death penalty for as an option for women

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<v Speaker 1>who who go and get reproductive care who have an

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<v Speaker 1>abortion outside of you know, outside of their of their

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<v Speaker 1>state lines. And so I wonder how that issue plays

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<v Speaker 1>and where it is in your list of priorities.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're we're we're not a reproductive rights organization

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<v Speaker 2>because we we want you know, women led organizations and

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<v Speaker 2>organizations that have this on the front burners. So we

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<v Speaker 2>often follow their lead and take their their advice in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of how to message. But that being said, we

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<v Speaker 2>still have to independently kind of track the nature of

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<v Speaker 2>this issue given its huge salience since the Dobbs decision.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know two things. One, we know it's a

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<v Speaker 2>turnout issue, but we need a lot more research into

0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:27.840
<v Speaker 2>the sub demographics within the AAPI community that make up

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<v Speaker 2>this large you know, Frankenstein of a term AAPI, Right,

0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.040
<v Speaker 2>we didn't invent it, right, it was some white guy

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<v Speaker 2>in the census. I asked, who probably came up with

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<v Speaker 2>this term? This term. But once again, when the term

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<v Speaker 2>was made up in the seventies, there was only one

0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:48.240
<v Speaker 2>million AAPIs. And now we're twenty four million. We are

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<v Speaker 2>the fastest growing you know stats I think a lot

0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:56.760
<v Speaker 2>of your listeners already know of. And so that being said,

0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.760
<v Speaker 2>there are like, for example, to kind of get into

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more nuanced but also to bring home

0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:06.280
<v Speaker 2>the point that we're not this monolith, which is, we

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<v Speaker 2>need to know how a sixty year old, for example,

0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:17.280
<v Speaker 2>first generation Filipino American immigrant feels about abortion because we

0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.679
<v Speaker 2>know that the Filipino community is very highly religious and

0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:24.800
<v Speaker 2>highly Catholic, right, and so but we need to know

0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:29.960
<v Speaker 2>what messages perhaps we could persuade that that person versus

0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:35.159
<v Speaker 2>a twenty four year old second generation Korean American male.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say, right, and you think about it. We you know,

0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:46.480
<v Speaker 2>we've got six plus major ethnicities that make up the

0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.600
<v Speaker 2>API community. They make up about eighty five percent of

0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.840
<v Speaker 2>all the APIs in this country, right, And so when

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<v Speaker 2>we're trying to do our type of campaign politics, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not one size fits all. It is essentially we need

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<v Speaker 2>to know how each of these demographics think. But also

0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:10.520
<v Speaker 2>given the fact that you know, roughly thirty percent or more,

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<v Speaker 2>forgetting the figure I apologize, I think it's sixty percent

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<v Speaker 2>or more of APIs, our first generation immigrants. The immigrant mindset,

0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:23.920
<v Speaker 2>the immigrant sort of you know, attitude is different than

0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:27.000
<v Speaker 2>a person who's been here for generations, who may not

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<v Speaker 2>even know their ancestral history. And it's because because of

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<v Speaker 2>that specific dynamic that I think is largely unique to

0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:41.080
<v Speaker 2>APIs and also to Latinos to a degree that we

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<v Speaker 2>need to know the mindset of you know, each generation

0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:49.520
<v Speaker 2>in our community. And once we do, we'll have a

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<v Speaker 2>much better idea on how to test and message to

0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:58.160
<v Speaker 2>each levels of those demographics. But you know, no other

0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.120
<v Speaker 2>demographic really has to go through the level of detail,

0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.280
<v Speaker 2>through the level of nuance that we do because of

0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:09.000
<v Speaker 2>this Frankenstein term, if you will, right, and because we

0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:12.520
<v Speaker 2>would be doing our own people a disservice trying to say, yeah,

0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's one API message and it is this

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<v Speaker 2>and it will work on everybody. And I think unfortunately

0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.359
<v Speaker 2>a lot of campaigns who don't have the time or

0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:25.760
<v Speaker 2>the intellectual, you know, curiosity, that they just want to

0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:29.440
<v Speaker 2>appeal with one message because you know, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>to their detriment in the end. Given that a lot

0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:40.400
<v Speaker 2>of districts that are battleground districts in Arizona, Nevada, Florida, Georgia,

0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:42.960
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina, a lot of places that are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the current and the future battlegrounds in the United

0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:49.800
<v Speaker 2>States of America. I can't forget our friends in Texas

0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:54.160
<v Speaker 2>too that, you know, unless we get to that level

0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:57.120
<v Speaker 2>of nuance, we're going to be missing out on tens

0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.479
<v Speaker 2>of thousands, in some cases hundreds of thousands of votes.

0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:06.080
<v Speaker 2>And that's where all this where these elections local, state,

0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:07.920
<v Speaker 2>federal are going to be decided.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, vern because it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>you know that I am kind of battling with as

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<v Speaker 1>I delve into conversations with folks in twenty twenty four,

0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:27.800
<v Speaker 1>which is that while we you know, various organizations and

0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:32.359
<v Speaker 1>movements make plans to win, right, I think that the

0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:38.320
<v Speaker 1>stakes of losing in twenty twenty four are the highest

0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:41.960
<v Speaker 1>that they have ever been, And I wonder, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>while I do believe and wholeheartedly agree with you, you

0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:49.080
<v Speaker 1>have plenty of time to focus on the top of

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.359
<v Speaker 1>the ticket. I think it's much more important to do

0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the ground game in local and state and city elections.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you find will be the recourse if Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>who we know are racist, these you know, Christian nationalism

0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:11.879
<v Speaker 1>that this takes hold. What does the recourse look like

0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:17.600
<v Speaker 1>for a community that was made a target right during

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<v Speaker 1>COVID by the president, former president of the United States,

0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:25.719
<v Speaker 1>by an entire party. What is that? What is you know?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just curious as to the fear level and threat

0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:33.920
<v Speaker 1>level that you that you foresee.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it is what we all experience collectively as

0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:42.160
<v Speaker 2>a nation between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty on steroids. Yeah,

0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was listening to twenty year prior podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>You had mentioned that, and common knowledge in the news

0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:53.360
<v Speaker 2>was that Trump admitted that on day one he will

0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:56.679
<v Speaker 2>be a dictator for only one day apparently, but we

0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.960
<v Speaker 2>know his track record, and so what does he planned

0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:05.639
<v Speaker 2>on doing? I think it was the week prior days

0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:10.680
<v Speaker 2>prior week prior to the October seventh attack in Israel,

0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump said that he was going to enact another

0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:21.439
<v Speaker 2>Muslim ban. This was even before what had happened. So

0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:25.200
<v Speaker 2>now he has further fodder that he's going to use

0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:30.680
<v Speaker 2>to terrorize the people of color of our country. He's

0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:36.120
<v Speaker 2>going to terrorize the LGBTQ community, he's going to terrorize

0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:42.600
<v Speaker 2>poor people. He's going to terrorize anybody that is not

0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:47.919
<v Speaker 2>of you know, Anglo heritage and of Christian faith. We

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:52.720
<v Speaker 2>know that, and it's going to be worse because they've

0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:58.320
<v Speaker 2>already started collecting binders of people that you know, have

0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:01.359
<v Speaker 2>drunk the kool aid, but have you know, have not

0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 2>left him, right, A lot of his former cabinet, a

0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:08.280
<v Speaker 2>lot of his former political appointees have left him. A

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:10.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of his supporters have left him. So that's why

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:15.240
<v Speaker 2>they're developing these binders full of people that are as bad,

0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:17.760
<v Speaker 2>if not worse. There was somewhat of a you know,

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:22.280
<v Speaker 2>to a degree like some folks in his last administration

0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:25.760
<v Speaker 2>that we're trying to temper his craziness. Yeah right, and

0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:29.040
<v Speaker 2>we're not going there anymore. They've already let those quotes out.

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:35.400
<v Speaker 2>And you think it's bad enough where you've had some

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:40.119
<v Speaker 2>tempering authority in the last administration. Without those restraints in

0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:45.919
<v Speaker 2>another administration, we are all doomed. Yeah, And and it

0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 2>almost seems hyperbolic to say, yes, this is the most

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:53.920
<v Speaker 2>important election of our lifetime. But I mean, I hope

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 2>it's obvious that given you his words, which we have

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.679
<v Speaker 2>only heard part of because we're in maybe not tuning

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:05.920
<v Speaker 2>into Truth Social and Fox News on a daily basis,

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 2>but it's all there for you know, folks to see.

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:13.879
<v Speaker 2>But once the nomination becomes secure, once we start ticking

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.880
<v Speaker 2>down these caucuses and primaries on the Republican side, it's

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 2>going to become much more mainstream and we're going to

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 2>hear about it on a daily basis. And maybe we

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:25.400
<v Speaker 2>just needed to break from all this batshit crazy stuff. Yeah, yeah,

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 2>I certainly did. I mean, how much can.

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<v Speaker 1>Person can you take? Yeah, But at the end of

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, well, you know, whether you want to hear it

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:36.119
<v Speaker 2>or not, you're going to see it on Business and News.

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:38.359
<v Speaker 2>You're going to see it on you know, even the

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:41.879
<v Speaker 2>most you know, uh uh, it might be on like

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 2>if you're watching you know, the outdoor channel, it's going

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 2>to be on the outdoor channel. It's going to be

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 2>on every channel known to man because we won't be

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:49.080
<v Speaker 2>able to escape it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, with the minute that we have left,

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<v Speaker 1>please tell people how they can get involved with AAPI

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:01.399
<v Speaker 1>Victory Alliance, you know, how keep up with what is

0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:03.880
<v Speaker 1>going on and how they support.

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for the opportunity. You can visit

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 2>API Victory Alliance dot com, sign up for our newsletter.

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.200
<v Speaker 2>We're very easy to find on social through the same channels,

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:16.879
<v Speaker 2>and I would say, at the very least sign up

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 2>for our newsletters because I think what we're really focused

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 2>on this year is getting out ways that if you

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 2>are even inkling to spend five minutes a day, five

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:31.159
<v Speaker 2>minutes a week to do a text bank, to do

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:36.680
<v Speaker 2>a phone bank, to donate money, whatever you're able to do,

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:40.360
<v Speaker 2>you know it's going to be full steam ahead. We're

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 2>going to need everybody in this election to really kind

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 2>of fight back. And I hope that your listeners come

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 2>and visit because or do something, you know, whether it's

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:54.159
<v Speaker 2>API or not, because we are really are going to

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 2>see armageddon this time around. It's going to be worse.

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 2>We won't have the I think certain tools in our

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 2>tool belt that we had last time around, and so

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 2>we're going to get everybody to fight, state, local, national,

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:13.720
<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's really gonna I can't say this enough.

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm saying the sky is falling, because

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 2>from my vantage point, it really is. It looks like

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump has secured the nomination. It's locked in, and

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<v Speaker 2>now we have to get ready for what's next.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent Varunicour, thank you so much for making

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<v Speaker 1>the time to join wok F really appreciate you, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll check in with you as the calendar ticks down.

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<v Speaker 1>That is it for me today, dear friends on wok app.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, power to the people and to all the people. Power,

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<v Speaker 1>get woke and stay woke as fuck.