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<v Speaker 1>Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you the funniest story ever. So this weekend we had

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<v Speaker 1>my dad's side of the family annual Christmas party that

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<v Speaker 1>we have every year and we look forward to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have lots of cousins and aunts and uncles

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<v Speaker 1>that are listeners. So high and hey, guys, hey, let's

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<v Speaker 1>think of who specifically came up to us. Andrea and

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<v Speaker 1>Al and Jimmy and of course Geena Revernet Alle Natalie.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, we definitely have a bunch of our family

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<v Speaker 1>members who are listeners. But so my dad comes up

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<v Speaker 1>to me at the party and he goes, hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>finally listened to your X Rated podcast. And I was like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>this is hilarious because we've been doing this podcast for

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<v Speaker 1>over a year. My dad's never listened to it. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we've said before, he probably doesn't even know what a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is. But this party is almost an hour away

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<v Speaker 1>for us to drive, so my mom probably put it

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<v Speaker 1>on while they were driving there and like forced them

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to it. But I was like, X rated

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<v Speaker 1>And then so I go up to my mom and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what's daddy talking about? He said, he what's

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<v Speaker 1>X rated about the podcast? And here he was listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the part where we were talking about whole talks

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<v Speaker 1>and dudes that get botox in their asshole to make

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<v Speaker 1>anal sex more comfortable. So I thought that that was

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<v Speaker 1>like a great first introduction for my dad to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the show. So of course it's the first episode

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<v Speaker 1>he's ever listened to, the one where we because he's

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<v Speaker 1>like a really old school Italian guy, so just hearing

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<v Speaker 1>like anybody talks so openly about sexual things, let alone

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<v Speaker 1>his daughter and granddaughter, which is probably such a shock

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<v Speaker 1>to the system. And my mom listens to every episode

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<v Speaker 1>and I think she does thinks for being funny, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was probably so more to less prude than he is,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just think it's it is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>He just kept giving me this look across the room

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<v Speaker 3>like it's probably mortified, but whatever. All right, let's get

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<v Speaker 3>into the story of the day, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So last week in Virginia, there was this group of

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<v Speaker 1>people hunting. They came across a bear. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>from the report that they had scared the bear to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where the bear climbed up a tree, and

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<v Speaker 1>then while the bear was up there, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>hunters shot at it. So the problem in this whole

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<v Speaker 1>situation lies with the fact that all the guys were

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily clear of the surrounding area of the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the tree, and as the bear fell out, it

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<v Speaker 1>hit one of the guys on the ground and gave

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<v Speaker 1>him serious injuries that later caused his death. Jesus Christ,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's like some karma shit right there. For real,

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<v Speaker 1>it is pretty crazy. I don't know. I looked up

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<v Speaker 1>how heavy bears are, because I you could tell they're

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<v Speaker 1>heavier creatures, but I was like pretty shocked. So in

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia they have black bears, which I think are considered

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<v Speaker 1>some of the smaller bears we have in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>but they can range. The male black bears can range

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<v Speaker 1>from two hundred and eighty to eleven hundred pounds, and

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<v Speaker 1>then females can range from two hundred to six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty pounds. So imagine if this was a full

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<v Speaker 1>fledged adult bear, how heavy that would be. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>it probably was because you're not allowed to shoot ones

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<v Speaker 1>under a certain size, right, So it probably was a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger bear. And yeah, just imagine a two hundred to

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred even more pound weight falling from a tree

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<v Speaker 1>and landing on a person. So I'm actually surprised that

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<v Speaker 1>guy didn't die on impact, but you don't know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what angle it hit him at. Apparently he was still alive.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the interesting thing that at the scene

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<v Speaker 1>they said that he was in I don't even think

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<v Speaker 1>they said that he was in serious condition, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>they say that he was in he was stable at

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<v Speaker 1>the scene, and they brought him to the hospital and

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<v Speaker 1>then he later died from his injuries. So I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 1>if he had some kind of a brain bleed or

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<v Speaker 1>something that they weren't able to either identify right away

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<v Speaker 1>when they thought that he was fine, because you hear

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<v Speaker 1>that happened to like remember we did the celebrity death

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<v Speaker 1>dissection on the Tacha Richardson. She was the mom from

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<v Speaker 1>the parent Trap. Yeah, and she had hit her head

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<v Speaker 1>while skiing and she told the instructor that she was fine,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was able to get up and go back

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<v Speaker 1>to her room and she seemed fine, and then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, you know, she died. So that could happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't always have to necessarily die right away from

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<v Speaker 1>a blunt injury like that, So that's more than likely

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with this guy. But imagine, imagine you being

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<v Speaker 1>the their hunter that shot the bear, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of your fault that this bear fell on top

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<v Speaker 1>of your friend. Yeah. I mean, I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>hear about hunting accidents a lot, but I've never quite

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<v Speaker 1>heard of this. I don't think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>know that bears can so easily climb up trees. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was, of course going to YouTube to watch

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<v Speaker 1>videos of bears following out of trees, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, there's a lot of footage of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just this gigantic thump when they hit the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't even imagine that falling on a person. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't either. So this guy leaves behind five kids,

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<v Speaker 1>eight grandkids, a wife. It's really sad. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>this is some like crazy freak thing that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think most hunters are thinking about things. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>intentionally shot it out of the tree, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they realized, oh what they think it was gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 1>What did they think was going to happen, like it

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<v Speaker 1>was just going to stay up there, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're shooting it because you want to keep the trophy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So they had to assume it was going to fall.

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<v Speaker 1>Just maybe I don't know, like maybe the one guy

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't paying attention or whatever, because I think they said

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<v Speaker 1>he was only tendy ten feet from the tree, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like not that f far, not far at all, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. Okay, celebrity news. All right, So

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<v Speaker 1>in Barcelona, this fashion designer, his name's Isaac Andick. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know the brand Mango? Yeah? I do, so they

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<v Speaker 1>have really cute stuff. He founded this brand in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>He was hiking on this popular tourist area with his family.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess at some point during the hike they approached

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<v Speaker 1>these caves that are really beautiful. You know. They said,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of tourists go to this area. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>uncommon somebody would be hiking there. So at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>while I was four in the caves, he fell down

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<v Speaker 1>a ravine which was about five hundred feet or one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty meters, and he had to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't find him at first, A family had to

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<v Speaker 1>call nine War one a helicopter and a special rescue

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<v Speaker 1>crew had to come, and unfortunately, by the time they

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<v Speaker 1>got down there, he was dead. Yeah, do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear something really nuts? So right before I saw

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<v Speaker 1>this story in the news. So we're traveling to out

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<v Speaker 1>West later this year and my friend Paul lives out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and he sent me a picture of some cave that

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<v Speaker 1>has a ladder in it that's like one hundred years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, Hey, are you guys interested in going

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<v Speaker 1>in this hike? I want to find this cave that

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<v Speaker 1>has this hundred year old ladder that you can climb

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<v Speaker 1>down and go into this cave. And he sends me

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<v Speaker 1>the picture of it, and I'm looking at it like, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds like a really good idea that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be like in the middle of the desert with

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<v Speaker 1>no cell service and we're going to stand on this

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<v Speaker 1>ladder and it's gonna break and we're gonna be stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in a cave.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I said, you know, well, Gabe might want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that with you actually, because it sounds right

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<v Speaker 1>up Gabe's alley, right. But then as soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>read that this story came up, and I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>that that was just like a sign that we definitely

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<v Speaker 1>should go nowhere near that with Paul. But yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>felt so how far did he fall? You said, over?

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<v Speaker 1>It's the article I was referencing sat one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty meters, which when I converted it said it was

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<v Speaker 1>around five hundred feet deep. Yeah, that's consistent with a

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<v Speaker 1>fall from a fifty story building anywhere, depending because I

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<v Speaker 1>think I read that it was one hundred meters, but regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>it's anywhere from like a thirty to fifty story building.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's think about that like a huge high rise

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<v Speaker 1>in New York City and falling to the ground like

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's those injuries are going to be significant. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>surprised that they were able to even get his body

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<v Speaker 1>down that far, like that must have just been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in itself to be able to get down there

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<v Speaker 1>to get him. Oh yeah, and he was seventy one

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<v Speaker 1>years old, like I. You know, the people we know

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<v Speaker 1>in our life that are in their seventies would never

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<v Speaker 1>dare even leave the house to go on a walk

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<v Speaker 1>around the block, let alone go hiking in caves with

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<v Speaker 1>their family. So I thought that was kind of cool

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<v Speaker 1>that he was going out and having this day with

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<v Speaker 1>his family, but obviously it had the worst possible ending. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So when you fall from a height of that high,

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<v Speaker 1>you sometimes with the bodies at all tops, so you

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<v Speaker 1>see specific injuries that happen depending on how the person lands.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were talking about with Liam Payne. He fell

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<v Speaker 1>from only a third floor balcony, right, so he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>that far. But remember we were saying that he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any injuries that were consistent with him being awake

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<v Speaker 1>and alert and trying to brace his fall in any way,

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of times you'll see injuries like broken

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<v Speaker 1>bones on the feet. Sometimes the ankle bone will pop

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<v Speaker 1>right through the skin because people are trying to land

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<v Speaker 1>on their feet or trying to brace their fall with

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<v Speaker 1>their hands. But sometimes in these cases, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're falling that fast and the forest is just so fast,

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<v Speaker 1>you really don't have any control over how you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to land and stuff, and if you do land on

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<v Speaker 1>your feet or your butt, it could cause something in

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<v Speaker 1>your skull called a ring fracture, and that's just from

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<v Speaker 1>the impact of the bottom of your spine. Basically just

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<v Speaker 1>like pushing up into your skull, so at the base

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<v Speaker 1>of the skull it causes a fracture that's like a

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<v Speaker 1>ring or a circle, and those particular injuries are almost

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<v Speaker 1>always consistent with an instant death. Is there is there

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<v Speaker 1>a height in which you could maybe like pass out

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<v Speaker 1>mid air if you're falling from a certain height, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That would all be specific on the individual,

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<v Speaker 1>if they have some kind of a reaction like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just it's so fast, honestly, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know if if that's a thing that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>It just like I can't there's you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>couple ways of dying that just seem really horrible, and

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<v Speaker 1>just falling for that long because it goes by quickly, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like kind of too long where you know

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening, Yeah, I mean, and just think about that

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<v Speaker 1>being the last couple seconds of your life. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>like such a scary feeling to I don't know. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really afraid of so just I'm like so afraid of heights,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if I'm at the mall and I look over

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<v Speaker 1>the edge of the of the banister, like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like that feeling. It like it gives me like a

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<v Speaker 1>scared feeling. I just don't like heights at all. So

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<v Speaker 1>for someone like me just thinking about having that feeling

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<v Speaker 1>so intense, you know. I remember years ago I took

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<v Speaker 1>this elevator which was at the Sears Tower in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's called I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's called that anymore, but it took you all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to the top and you could kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>like look out the window outside, and just just being

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<v Speaker 1>up that high and looking outside of a window, knowing

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<v Speaker 1>you're protected in a building just like scares me, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. So I would never even be

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything like this, like going with Paul in a cave.

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<v Speaker 1>Heights don't really bother me like that. Something interesting is

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in Lake Placid a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It was snowing pretty bad the whole time, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of people pulled over going on hiking trails,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't I could not possibly wrap my head

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<v Speaker 1>around going hiking at all, mostly because I'm lazy, but

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<v Speaker 1>also just you know, hiking with all that ice and snow.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my husband was saying something that apparently going

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<v Speaker 1>hiking on certain trails could be easier with ice because

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<v Speaker 1>it's easier to grip certain rocks and it smooths them

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<v Speaker 1>over or something which makes these avid hikers want to

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<v Speaker 1>go out and do it more. I just could never

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<v Speaker 1>do something like that. I'm into hiking just as long

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<v Speaker 1>as there's protections, you know. Yeah, I'm just wondering in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, because this accident happened recently. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>Barcelona has kind of similar weather to us, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wondering if it was icy conditions or if it was

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<v Speaker 1>a nice, regular day out. So this brand, Mango, I

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<v Speaker 1>had never I mean, I guess it's a huge deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it Has it been here forever too? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>just came across it recently, like a year or two ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Oh, all these clothes are cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I never heard of this brand. I don't, like, have

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<v Speaker 1>you heard of it? And I've just been totally checked

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<v Speaker 1>out this whole time. I think you've been checked out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say it's been in the US forever.

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<v Speaker 1>It was founded in the eighties in Spain by this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been aware of it for quite some time because

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<v Speaker 1>I've always thought their clothes were really cute, but I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they used to sell it. Maybe I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it used to be at like a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of department stores near US. Yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>they stores. Okay, all right, what's so? The next story

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<v Speaker 1>is is a good one. So el and John was

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<v Speaker 1>named Time Magazine's Icon of the Year. So during his interview,

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about his career and his overall struggles

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<v Speaker 1>with addiction at the peak of his career, and he

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<v Speaker 1>basically ended the interview saying that legalizing marijuana in America

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<v Speaker 1>and Canada is one of the greatest mistakes of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about that? When you know? This

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<v Speaker 1>whole interview he was talking about how he was introduced

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<v Speaker 1>to cocaine and got addicted in that, you know, made

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<v Speaker 1>him try other drugs and everything, And he went on

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<v Speaker 1>in the interview to talk about how marijuana is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a gateway drug in his opinion, being a former drug addict.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was an interesting take from somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>was a drug addict. They also asked him about if

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<v Speaker 1>he felt the same way about alcohol. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting that they said he turned to his husband

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<v Speaker 1>to answer on his behalf, and they kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>were like, while it is socially acceptable, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still kind of this problem people are refusing to acknowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>I see it the same way as alcohol in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what makes weed worse than drinking It both

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<v Speaker 1>changes how your brain is feeling and can alter your

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<v Speaker 1>state of mind. So I back in the day, I

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<v Speaker 1>used to smoke a lot of weed, and I used

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, yeah, legalized weed, blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when I really started thinking about it, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when I stopped using it, I definitely could I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with him one hundred percent. And I think if you

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<v Speaker 1>talk to a lot of people who used to use

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<v Speaker 1>marijuana heavily that have stopped, most of these people would

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<v Speaker 1>say that they've seen an increase of productivity in their

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<v Speaker 1>life as well as an increase in their quality of life,

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<v Speaker 1>and just they could agree with what he is saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they always try to push this thing that weeds,

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<v Speaker 1>like this natural thing that grows in the ground and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not addictive and it's not harmful and this and that,

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<v Speaker 1>and in my opinion and personal experience and also professional experience,

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<v Speaker 1>I find that that is completely false. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>it shouldn't be legal because I look at like the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons that I think that, Like, I don't give a

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<v Speaker 1>shit if people use weed and want to use weed.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is is that when the US government

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<v Speaker 1>says that weed is legal, you're telling people that it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that bad. Because if the US government says

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, then it can't be that bad. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>people think, But that's not the truth. It's the same

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<v Speaker 1>with alcohol, it's the same with cigarettes. And the government

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<v Speaker 1>only legalized it not because they care that you can

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<v Speaker 1>get it. It's you know, safer whatever they get. They

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<v Speaker 1>realize that they can make a shit ton of money

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<v Speaker 1>off of it, so they don't They don't care that

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<v Speaker 1>they're just introducing this to a whole bunch of other people,

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<v Speaker 1>like people like you, for example, like super rule follower

0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:33.920
<v Speaker 1>people whishers, a ton of you in the world. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you might be more scared to ever try doing marijuana

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<v Speaker 1>or having it daily because you would be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's illegal and if somebody smells it coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>my house, I'll get arrested or you know, all this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and that would kind of deter you from using it.

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<v Speaker 1>But now that it is legal, people just and clearly

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<v Speaker 1>we can tell what's happened because and maybe that's just

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<v Speaker 1>because it's legal in my state, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much legal in most areas of the country at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, right. No, I mean it's legal, it's recreationally legal,

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<v Speaker 1>medically legal in a bunch of states, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>recreationally legal in most states. Well whatever, wherever we are

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<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey and Philadelphia, it's like you just smell

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<v Speaker 1>weed wherever you're at at all times, and people are

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<v Speaker 1>just smoking it outside as if it was a cigarette,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the use of it and the openness of

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<v Speaker 1>it is definitely way up from then when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say. So, there are health risks associated with marijuana,

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<v Speaker 1>including like there's an increased risk of having psychosis, and

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<v Speaker 1>you could have all of these different kinds of mental

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<v Speaker 1>health aspects of it, especially if you have underlying depression

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<v Speaker 1>or schizophrena or something. It could really make those conditions worse.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's also problems and we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that in another article we have talking about vaping a

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<v Speaker 1>lot a little bit later. But there's health problems that

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<v Speaker 1>are associated with and they even have done studies that

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<v Speaker 1>say that the burning of the marijuana could lead to

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<v Speaker 1>cancer in patients. And so I think that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see a lot of this over time. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know that marijuana has been around for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>But back in the day, if you went to the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor in the eighties and the nineties and they say

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<v Speaker 1>do you use recreational drugs, every single person puts no,

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<v Speaker 1>because why would you put that in writing if they

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<v Speaker 1>were illegal? Right, So all of these statistics of people

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<v Speaker 1>like getting cancer later in life and stuff and all

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<v Speaker 1>that that, how do you know that marijuana didn't give

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<v Speaker 1>people cancer because nobody used to admit to it because

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<v Speaker 1>it was illegal. So now you could say that about

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred other things. Yeah, but I'm telling you right now,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is going to be like and I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to go back ten years ago, I was saying

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<v Speaker 1>the same shit. So just like it will, it will

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent come up in the future because more art.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only way that they're able to determine what's

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<v Speaker 1>causing cancer because of people's health records. Well, also, we'd

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<v Speaker 1>used to actually be natural and in today's day and age.

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<v Speaker 1>Like everything else, it's genetically modified, it's manufactured, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so those are going to cause problems as well, just

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<v Speaker 1>because it's evolved over time. Well, it just it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter if it's natural anyway, because there's plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of natural things that could cause harm. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just like you could do all the tests you want

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<v Speaker 1>on the marijuana plant itself, but when you turn anything

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<v Speaker 1>and when you burn anything, it totally changes the chemical

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<v Speaker 1>composition of that thing, which could then change DNA, which

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<v Speaker 1>then can lead to atypical cells that can lead to cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just something I think people should just have

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<v Speaker 1>their eyes open about and say, just because the government

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<v Speaker 1>says it's it's legal, now it's it's not legal, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>equal good. And you could see that with alcohol and

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<v Speaker 1>cigarettes for sure. So yeah, but people I do think

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol is fine. So yeah, well it's not like I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>so and that's not my opinion, Like that's that's the

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of liver transplants I've seen it, and and autopsies

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<v Speaker 1>and everything associated with chronic alcohol use, not to mention

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<v Speaker 1>all of the other stuff that you could you could

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<v Speaker 1>really measure out drinking and driving accidents. There was just

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<v Speaker 1>one where a seven year old kid just got killed

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<v Speaker 1>in a dui accident. Like it's not it's not good

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<v Speaker 1>for you and so, and there's really no articles medical

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<v Speaker 1>literature anyway saying that it is, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's the same thing with cigarettes, Like, God, don't

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<v Speaker 1>even go down that road, right just because the government

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<v Speaker 1>says it's it's okay, it doesn't mean it's safe. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I want to say. So I see what

0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:54.879
<v Speaker 1>he's out and John's saying, because you're almost giving people

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<v Speaker 1>that permission. Like, listen to me. If they said, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to legalize uh, let's say cocaine, you would

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<v Speaker 1>see an increase in cocaine use. Yeah, of course. But

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<v Speaker 1>like you said earlier, though, they don't give a shit

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<v Speaker 1>about what happens to you. They care that the tax

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<v Speaker 1>money has gone up astronomically. That's what they care about. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, as long as people are making their

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<v Speaker 1>decisions based on that, then, because I hear a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff about people arguing with you that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not addictive, it's not this and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you could talk to plenty of people, especially people like

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<v Speaker 1>me that I could talk from experience because I did

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<v Speaker 1>a shit ton of it. It is. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>gateway drag. It is addictive, Like I'm you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like, I don't care what you say. It

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<v Speaker 1>is you. They can say whatever they want, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>think saying that as a like, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>I think it can be addictive, but I don't think it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've I smoked weed for a really long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't addicted to it, like and I stopped doing

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<v Speaker 1>it no problem. So like I think it depends on

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<v Speaker 1>what the personality type. I think that depends on Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's you though, But you don't have you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any kind of predetermined thing to have addiction. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same thing you can delay about drinking alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>and going gamba. But ingredients in cigarettes are proven to

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<v Speaker 1>be addicted to anybody that regularly smokes them. Like, saying

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<v Speaker 1>marijuana is addicted in the same way cigarettes are is

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<v Speaker 1>just not a correct statement in my opinion, because it

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<v Speaker 1>depends on your personality what kind of weed you're getting.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of these dispensaries are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them are really about the natural approach, but

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<v Speaker 1>some of them are about the heavily genetically modified approach.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's what could lead to an addiction. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think addictions just it's just too broad of a

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<v Speaker 1>term for anything, because you could say, like my husband

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<v Speaker 1>drinks a case of seulser or water a day, is

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<v Speaker 1>he addicted to it? Probably? Like if he doesn't have it,

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of gets anxiety over it, like, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>am I going to drink today? I don't have new

0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 1>fizzy water? Like can you please get some groceries? Blah

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. Like right, so people can have it towards

0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:10.399
<v Speaker 1>lots of different things that aren't considered to be like

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<v Speaker 1>chemically addictive for people, you know, So it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>not true to say that it's not I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on the person's let's move off, all right,

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 1>freak accidents, all right, So speaking of this topic, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we're gonna considue the conversation. This teenage boy who

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<v Speaker 1>was fifteen was sneaking around vaping. What's confusing about this

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<v Speaker 1>to me is that his parents said he was They

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<v Speaker 1>were constantly finding a vape in his room. Although they

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<v Speaker 1>forbid him from doing it, and then he would just

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<v Speaker 1>go on walks all the time, Like what else do

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<v Speaker 1>you think he was doing? Well? This is the thing

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<v Speaker 1>I love that this article is heavily emphasizes that the

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 1>parents kind of like knew about this and told him

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<v Speaker 1>not to do this, and we're really trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>him not to do this. But ultimately, when you have

0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:01.760
<v Speaker 1>a fifteen year old kid, somehow they're able to get

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<v Speaker 1>access to that thing they leave the house, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>like sit on top of them and never let them

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<v Speaker 1>leave the house and stuff. Like kids, this is just

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<v Speaker 1>like a kid being a kid. This is a story

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 1>as old as time. Kids hiding cigarettes, kids hiding drugs, alcohol, whatever.

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 1>They just wanted to be clear in this article that

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:23.119
<v Speaker 1>like they didn't condone his behavior all right. Anyway, he

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 1>one night, he goes on one of his quote walks

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to go sneak a smoke, and he said, as he

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:31.560
<v Speaker 1>walked up to this overpass near his house, the vape

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.959
<v Speaker 1>wasn't working, so he tapped it on the ground and

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 1>then as he lifted it back up to his mouth,

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>the thing exploded in his hands. Yeah, so this this

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>little like a vape pen can act like a small

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.880
<v Speaker 1>explosive device and parts of it are made of glass

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and metal, and it essentially acted like shrapnel and partially

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:57.399
<v Speaker 1>amputated parts of his hand. Like he went home to

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 1>show to be like to his parents, called on on one

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm having a problem, and his dad said that his

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:05.719
<v Speaker 1>thumb was like hanging off of his hand by his

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>wrist and when he went to the hospital, he had

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:11.400
<v Speaker 1>to end up getting extensive hand surgery and they did

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>have to amputate a couple of his fingers, but they

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:16.199
<v Speaker 1>weren't able to save his thumb. But his hand is

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:20.360
<v Speaker 1>completely mangled. He said, it was turned inside out. Yeah,

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>And the FDA is saying that these events with the

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:26.240
<v Speaker 1>explosions are unusual, but they think it could be related

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to the battery inside them. Do you think it's one

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 1>of those lithium ion batteries. So this is actually really interesting.

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 1>So there's a coil in these vipe pens that have

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 1>to that has to get heated in order to heat

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 1>this flammable liquid so it could turn it into a vapor, right,

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 1>And they do often use lithium ion batteries. Lithium ion

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:50.719
<v Speaker 1>batteries are regulated with things like cell phones and laptops.

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 1>And we talked about this with Fastinelli last year when

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:59.400
<v Speaker 1>we did that article with the Experial example that, Yeah,

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 1>we did that external exam with Chief Fastineali from FDNY,

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 1>and we were talking about how they're regulated. Like, if

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you get a phone from Apple, it's a regulated thing.

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 1>There's a low risk of anything happening with that battery

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 1>because they're FDA regulated. Right, But what about when you

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>get like a knockoff from China from Amazon to charge

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:27.120
<v Speaker 1>your de wault battery or whatever you do, Right, then

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 1>those ones that aren't approved, and they're the ones that

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 1>they're seeing with the scooters and everything in New York

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 1>are pausing most of the fires, or these like bobo

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 1>counterfeit ones.

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, when you're talking about these lithian ion batteries with

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:44.120
<v Speaker 1>bake pens, they're actually not regulated at all. So that's

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 1>part of the problem. There's no regulations with those at

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 1>this time. There's been there's just been countless emergency room

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:56.719
<v Speaker 1>injuries because of these explosions, and of course it's because

0:26:56.840 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 1>of the battery, you know what I mean. Yeah, I mean,

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I think the overall message behind the story is children

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 1>should certainly not be vaping, and I think because children

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 1>are vaping, they're not learning about the other dangers that

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>could be lurking behind the devices they're using, such as

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>this or them catching on fire. Yeah, which is also

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:18.120
<v Speaker 1>just and this is what I wanted to say earlier.

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 1>This is like just another issue that comes along with

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:25.160
<v Speaker 1>these because again, when these first came out, I've been

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:28.919
<v Speaker 1>saying since before I even started Instagram that these vapes

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>are horrible and they're going to be horrible. And let

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>me tell you why. Because the majority of the companies

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 1>that are owned by these vape people are Philip Morris, Okay,

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 1>who's we all know is like the number one cigarette

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>manufacturer who is responsible for the death of millions of people,

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and Altria, which is owned by Forrest Philip Marris as well. Right,

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>So these two companies that have made cigarettes, who hid

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 1>all of the information for years that they cause cancer

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>even though they knew it, right, they're the ones that

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>are saying putting out this new product and saying that

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>it's healthy and it's fine and it's not dangerous. And

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>but let's talk about this. Last year in twenty twenty three,

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the East cigarette manufacturers, they made twenty three point three

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>billion dollars. So that's why they say whatever they're going

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:22.920
<v Speaker 1>to say to get you to buy it, because it's

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 1>just like a huge money maker, right, And not only

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:30.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean the bape pens explosion are kind of like

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>not even the biggest problem that could happen. There's this

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 1>this lung condition called evalue a Valley, which is e

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>cigarettes and vaporized lung injury, which is being seen now

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>more and more, which they they're kind of like, Okay,

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>this is new, so we don't really know what to

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>call it and how to handle it. But what they

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>found is that this vitamin E that's in the liquid

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>that's in these bape pens can be causing lung injury

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>to people. But they're also saying it's not just specific

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 1>to that, so if they took vitamin E oil out

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>of it, there could be something else that could be

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>causing pulmonary injury to people. But it's just it's just

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>like you're kind of swapping one problem for another problem,

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and like, yeah, kids shouldn't be doing it, but like

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 1>they're targeting and advertising these things to children. I've seen

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the videos on YouTube and stuff. It's like they're getting

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>influencers to do it because they're not allowed to do

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>advertisements anymore because of what happened with the cigarettes. So

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>now they're like backdooring it and giving it to people

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>that are making YouTube and TikTok videos. Yeah, all right.

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Last Friday, this twenty six year old guy and his

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>son were walking their three dogs by this local playground.

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Suddenly the dogs started attacking the man, so bystanders called

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>nine on one tried to help to get the dogs

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>off of him. They were hitting the dogs with golf

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>clubs and shovels. They were excel bullies. Is that the

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>same as a pit bull? Do you know? Pit bulls

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>don't exist? Don't get the pitbull people all angry. Mix

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>bulls don't exist. They don't. They will tell you they're

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>not a thing. They're mixed breed dogs, and there's no

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>such thing as a pitbull. I don't know, and I

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 1>don't care. It's just kind of like, I'm kind of bored,

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>honestly by every single week there being like ten articles

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>about specific kinds of dogs. And it's not just these

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 1>quote pitbulls, it's also other dogs. This week alone, a

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>family had rott Wiler's that were like this. This little

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>girl's pet her whole entire life. She's five, and they

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>walled her to death. I mean, like we talk, we

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>don't even talk about it because it happened so many

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>times a week. But I guess one of my friends

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>had one of these bullies, which was a bulldog red

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>with a pitbull type dog. Right, but no, I don't

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>know what an extra large one is. I don't know.

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 1>It's just like clearly they were just describing it as

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>being this huge, muscular dog that was able to kill

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>its owner. So it's like, right, yeah, So suddenly the

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>dogs started attacking the guy, the owner out of nowhere,

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and then the bystanders were trying to, you know, beat

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the dogs off of them with the golf clubs and

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 1>shovels and stuff, and the dogs would not lay up

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>at all. One of the dogs ended up biting another

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>guy that was trying to help in this situation, giving

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>him serious injuries as well, but they had to wait

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>till the cops got there. The cops tasered the dogs

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>to get him off, which is so ridiculous. One of

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>them got away. A local elementary school had to then

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 1>go on lockdown. Think about other people in the playground

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>and just taking walks too, and how dangerous that could

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>have been. And then you know his son basically just

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how old the kid was, but watch

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>his dad get mauled to death in front of him.

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and that's why I wanted to talk about

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>this particular story as opposed to the millions of other

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 1>ones that we see all the time. It's just like

0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>this guy, this guy had these dogs right, brought it

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>to a playground where there's a bunch of innocent people.

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>When you look at the photos from the video, you're

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>just like, yeah, that just looks like the local playground

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>up the street where kids are on children are playing

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>on the jungle gym and stuff like that. And then

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the dog freaking escaped. Did they ever find it? Yeah,

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>they got all three dogs eventually. Yeah. So this dog

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>that just killed a person is now running around and

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>you get a call from your school that it's on

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>lockdown because there's this like killer animal on the loose,

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Like it's so ridiculous. They're just I just feel like

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>there needs to be some kind of regulations with and

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know where you draw the line, because

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>people are coming at you for that you know, because

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>anytime we have a story, I don't give a shit.

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Guess what if my kids are playing outside, Like I

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 1>don't want them to get bit by some dog that

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody shouldn't even know. And like you sit there and

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>say that a human living in America can't have a

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>tiger as a pet, right why because they attack people

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and kill people. They don't all do it like some

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>people on Instagram have pumas as pets and shit like that,

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>right if you raise it from when it's a baby

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>and you don't beat it and shit, and it's all

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's all nicey nice and stuff like that.

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>But like you don't let animals like that just walk

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>around to the park on a leash. Like sorry, This

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>actually just happened on Housewives last week. One of the

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>housewives showed up for their group trip or whatever, and

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>she was like, oh, I'm not feeling well. I got

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>bit by another dog at the dog park. And when

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>they showed her injuries, I was like, how are you

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>not losing your leg? It looked there was these insane

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>puncture wounds in this woman's leg and arm and she

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>was saying that the owner of that dog was in

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>his car, taking a phone call, and just letting this

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 1>dog roam around the dog park unattended. I mean, that's

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 1>like one hundred percent of lawsuit in my opinion. Yeah,

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 1>but that's and that's what's scary. It's like people get

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>these dogs because they want to look like they're a

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>bad ass carrying these dogs around, and they don't really

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 1>understand like that situation with that guy, Like luckily the

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 1>dogs just killed the owner. I mean, it's terrible that

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>the sun even had to watch that because the whole

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 1>entire thing was just completely avoidable. But just to think

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>that that could have just there, could have just been

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>like a mom there with their three year old pushing

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the kid on the swing, and that kid could have

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>been It's just like this just doesn't even need to

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>be a problem. It needs to be more regulated, and

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you can do it, because they're

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>like all dogs can bite, right, Chihuahuas can bite. This

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 1>is the big argument that they like to have that

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 1>chihuahuas bite more than pippoles do. An adult human could

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 1>manage a chihuahua. Most adult humans can't handle one of

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>these extra large dogs, let alone three of them at

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the same time. And the thing is that I understand

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>that there's lots of people that have Like one of

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>my best friends has two German Shepherds, which are dogs

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>that like are that bite, they're known to bite and

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 1>rattwaer's and everything. She's she's like a dog mom. They're

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.320
<v Speaker 1>her children. They're great and this and that. But then

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 1>when they get into the wrong hands and they're not

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>trained properly, or the just whatever whatever it is to

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:05.399
<v Speaker 1>cause these dogs to snap. It's the same with with

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.359
<v Speaker 1>the with the little kid the other day, like five

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>years old. The dogs were older than the kids. So

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 1>the dogs have been there since that kid got brought

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.879
<v Speaker 1>into the house for five whole years. Not a problem, never,

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 1>they said, anyway, not a problem, never bought, no aggression, all.

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter. It's an animal, Like what are you

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>talking about? Like, but it's it's just it happens all

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the time. Like what's the solution. I don't know, just

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 1>keep saying just like keep protecting it and saying like

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 1>nothing to see here. I don't know. I don't know,

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think we're ever going to be in

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:39.320
<v Speaker 1>a place really where these types of animals get banned

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>from being able to be owned. But I think maybe

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>there needs to be a rule that, you know, one

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 1>adult prorogressive animal, because an adult certainly can barely handle

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>one of them, let alone three of them at the

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>same time. And it's ridiculous that the dogs had to

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>get tasered to get them off of the person, and

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.680
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<v Speaker 1>True crime all right, the story with one gagillion layers,

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Luigi Manngioni. We have a lot of updates and there

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>are just I feel like new stories coming out every

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 1>single day related to this case. Yeah, It's it's kind

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>of crazy, like how this case has taken such turns

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>when we've just talked about it last last week. Right,

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 1>so it's only been one week, Well it's been two

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 1>about two weeks since one week did the crime and

0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>one week since he's been found. He was found Monday, right, Yeah,

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>he was found last Monday when we were like in

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>the middle of writing about it. That was I don't

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 1>understand how people are journalists because we're in the middle

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 1>of writing this and every five minutes there's a new

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 1>update and I'm like, Oh, I have to change what

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I just wrote. I have to change what I just wrote.

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 1>It's very stressful to be like trying to keep the

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>most up to date as of this episode. They're already

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>working on a documentary about him, which I think is

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>so outrageous. And then there's you know, a lot of

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>confusion about his charges right now. So right now, officials

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.839
<v Speaker 1>don't believe that he will be charged with the death

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>penalty because they don't think he's eligible for a federal crime.

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 1>And in New York they don't have the death penalty,

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 1>they haven't had it for about the last two decades.

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>So he's been charged with second degree murder, which I

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.879
<v Speaker 1>feel like most of us are used to knowing as

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>murdering somebody but not planning it out, and as we know,

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 1>in this case, it seemed to be very strategic and

0:38:56.600 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>planned out well. In New York City, under New York Lie,

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:02.840
<v Speaker 1>they only consider first degree murders as a charge that

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 1>applies to only a couple of crimes, which includes the

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>victim being a judge, a police officer, or a first responder.

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's interesting that New York law differs

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>so much from what we're used to. It is interesting

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 1>because do you think that that's possible. Maybe that's why

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 1>he decided to do it there, just because if he

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 1>did get caught, he would I mean second degree murder.

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Is is there a chance of him going to prison

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>for life or like there's a high chance that he's

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 1>not going to get in that kind of trouble for

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:37.360
<v Speaker 1>this Well, I think he could potentially have life. I

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 1>don't want to speak to whether or not he would

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:42.800
<v Speaker 1>be eligible for parole or not, because I just don't

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>know the answer to it. But I do think it

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 1>was strategic because you know, New York State does not

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>have the death penalty, so you know that's not on

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 1>the table. And then I think it is interesting because

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know until this case that they had different

0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 1>definitions of first degree and second degree murder. Yeah, I

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:04.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but so many crazy things are happening, So

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:10.360
<v Speaker 1>let's start talking about the semi copycat that already happened.

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 1>This week. Yeah, so this woman in Florida was on

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the phone with her insurance company. They denied her claim,

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and at the end of the recorded phone call, you

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>could hear her say, delay, deny, depose you people are next.

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 1>So obviously she got arrested pretty quickly after saying that.

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Is she like a fucking moron? Really, Like you are

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 1>a fucking moron. Listen, even if you agree with everything

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>he did and everything, you have to understand that's saying

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>something like that on a recorded phone call with somebody

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>in the same industry is going to get you in trouble.

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:46.439
<v Speaker 1>How could you seriously think that was gonna slip under

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the radar with how high profile this is. This lady

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>is forty two years old, so she's around my age,

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and she has three kids, and apparently she's a nuclear

0:40:56.920 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>med tech at a hospital or a medical center something,

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:05.839
<v Speaker 1>so she's got a good job. Like she's a fucking idiot. Seriously, Like,

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:10.280
<v Speaker 1>what did she say? Yeah? And her in her defense,

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 1>she was saying like she was defending her actions, saying

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 1>she only said those things because they were hot in

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 1>the news right now. But then she went on to

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.919
<v Speaker 1>say that the healthcare companies quote deserve karma and they're

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:25.319
<v Speaker 1>quote evil. So I'm like, you're saying you're not a threat,

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you're saying you only use the words because they're fresh

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 1>in your mind. But then you're wrapping right around and

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 1>saying that they are bad and evil and they deserve it.

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:36.319
<v Speaker 1>So what are you doing? What does she think is

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen? She's a terrible mother, actually, because like, listen,

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody in the world's got opinions, right, keep your fucking

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:47.320
<v Speaker 1>mouth shut because you're not changing anything or doing anything.

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 1>And now you're you could potentially go to jail. You're

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 1>definitely gonna lose your job, you could go to jail

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and like not be with your kids over what like

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 1>because you had to say that out loud, like it

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:04.760
<v Speaker 1>did nothing. You're a fucking idiot. So she was charged

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 1>with threats to conduct a mass shooting or act of terrorism.

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's considered a federal charge, which

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 1>think about heavy charge. Think about if she gets a

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>worse sentence than Luigi does, because her crime may qualify

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 1>as a federal crime, where murder does not qualify as

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 1>a federal crime unless you're hiring a hitman to cross

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 1>state lines. So think about the potential of her getting

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 1>a worse sentence than the guy that actually committed the

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>crime just because you said something in the heat of

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 1>the moment. Even if she gets off of this completely somehow,

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 1>which I don't know, because I feel like they're going

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:44.920
<v Speaker 1>to make an example of her, so people stop doing

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 1>dumbshit like this. Like even if she's just a regular person, right,

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 1>so she does not seemingly like, you know, a multi

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:57.720
<v Speaker 1>millionaire like the Luigi guy is. She's just a person

0:42:57.760 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 1>that works at a hospital and doesn't seem to have

0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>life millions of dollars sitting at a bank account. So

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>she's she's just ruining the quality of life for her children.

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 1>That's all that she did. Right now, She didn't She's

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>not some kind of hero, she's not things. She just

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 1>ruined the quality of life for her children. She'll probably

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:16.799
<v Speaker 1>I would like to say that she's never going to

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:19.440
<v Speaker 1>be able to work in healthcare again because of this,

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>which means that her associates and bachelor's degree that she

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>has a nuclear medicine is was a waste of time

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:28.360
<v Speaker 1>because she can't even do that as a job anymore.

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 1>And and for what like the legal fees that she's

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:34.759
<v Speaker 1>going to have, even though there are gofundmeans to get

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>money for her legal fees. It's just it's just like,

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who would donate money to that because

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:44.840
<v Speaker 1>she's a stupid person. Why would you give a stupid

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 1>person money. We'll get more on that later, but I

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:51.439
<v Speaker 1>think I can all agree that. You know, we've had,

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, a really frustrating phone call with some type

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:57.400
<v Speaker 1>of customer service, and we've all said things of the

0:43:57.440 --> 0:43:59.279
<v Speaker 1>heat of the moment. One time, I was on the

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 1>phone with my key provider when I was living with

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 1>my roommate a couple of years ago. The person was

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 1>being extremely unhelpful. It was something the company did that

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:10.319
<v Speaker 1>caused my internet to not work, and then I thought

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I hung up and I was like, that person's a

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 1>fucking asshole. And then they called me back and said,

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I heard you. Well, you know what that company is.

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I know exactly what you're you're talking about that they

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 1>like have the ability to completely embrage you. And but

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:29.320
<v Speaker 1>you're but you're right, there's lots of different Like I

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 1>see what the other side saying, Well, like you not

0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 1>having the internet is not the same as like you

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 1>not being able to get medicine that you need or

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 1>health insurance, sure need. Like but and and trust me, like,

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:44.839
<v Speaker 1>prior to this happening, they probably got similar threats like

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.719
<v Speaker 1>this all the time. But because that dude shot and

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 1>killed that dude, now it's like real, it's real, and

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>it happened, and now it could happen again, and and

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:58.359
<v Speaker 1>like the worst part is is that how he's being

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:00.880
<v Speaker 1>held such a hero is on only going to further

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:05.240
<v Speaker 1>fuel people like this lady to feel in bold and

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:10.359
<v Speaker 1>like empowered to say something like this, because and like

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 1>that's that's not helping. That's not going to help anything.

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.239
<v Speaker 1>It's just going to make people feel like they could

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:19.439
<v Speaker 1>go around killing people all the time for things. It's

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.120
<v Speaker 1>just like not the way to go about things. I think,

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 1>regardless about how you feel about the situation overall, I

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:29.800
<v Speaker 1>think you need to realistically expect that if you threaten somebody,

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 1>you're going to get in trouble for it. That's it's

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 1>just regardless. Was that, regardless of the situation is not

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 1>so black and white, you know. I mean, there's a

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 1>whole group of people that could argue, fuck those people

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>what she said, I agree with She did the right thing.

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:46.839
<v Speaker 1>There's a whole other group of people that like, she's

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 1>a monster. Why would you say something like that? How

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 1>are you so insensitive? Regardless of where you stand on

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.439
<v Speaker 1>either side, you just have to understand the consequence when

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you there and another person. And that's just the basics

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>of it. So, but to talk about this backpack company,

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:05.000
<v Speaker 1>So the founder of the backpack company, Peak Design, is

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 1>also facing a lot of criticism because he tipped off

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the police line that Luigi was wearing one of their bags.

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 1>So this is interesting because this has happened in lots

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:18.879
<v Speaker 1>of crimes, you know that they could try Remember when

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 1>we were taught, we were covering that case, the Boy

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 1>in the Box. Yeah, so, and I don't know the

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 1>exact details off of the top of my head, but

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>they're in Philadelphia years ago, was it like fifty years ago?

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:34.799
<v Speaker 1>It was a long time ago. They found this this

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 1>random dead child inside of a box. And with that box,

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:41.600
<v Speaker 1>they were able to determine that it was a it

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 1>was a box from a Bacinet or something that was

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 1>purchased at like J. C. Pennies, And they were able

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:48.160
<v Speaker 1>to track the serial number and see what store it

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:50.480
<v Speaker 1>was bought at and stuff like this is this is

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 1>just like old school police work kind of thing to

0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 1>be able to say, oh, that guy didn't They do

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:01.360
<v Speaker 1>it with the coburger on too, Like they found what

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:03.880
<v Speaker 1>knife it was and where it was sold and everything

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 1>just based upon the sheath that they found. They do,

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 1>and that's how they try to find people who dig

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>crimes or connect them to it. I think you know,

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 1>a big concern that people have with this case is

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:18.439
<v Speaker 1>that their backpacks have serial numbers in them, and they

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:22.760
<v Speaker 1>have privacy concerns with their purchases. I saw other people

0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>pointing out that they're worried if they had bought a

0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:27.279
<v Speaker 1>backpack from this company and then they sold it on

0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 1>a secondhand website or to a friend or something, what

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 1>if that person commits a crime, are they going to

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.759
<v Speaker 1>be liable for the crime because the serial number matches them.

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:39.200
<v Speaker 1>But to your point, this is old school police work.

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of similar to how they id cars that

0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:44.839
<v Speaker 1>are found or using crimes. It's the same thing. They're

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:48.480
<v Speaker 1>just doing basic tracking techniques. Yeah. I mean, if you're

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and if you're not killing people, like like listen, anything

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 1>that you buy, if you if you murder something and

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:58.839
<v Speaker 1>it's involved in the murder, then you're going they're going

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:00.920
<v Speaker 1>to try to track it. I don't see why anybody

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 1>really has a problem with that, Like what's the privacy concern?

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 1>So he fucking killed somebody, Like we we could sit

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:10.440
<v Speaker 1>here and talk about the reasons or whatever. But like

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 1>it's against the law in the United States to murder

0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 1>a person, so it needs to be he needs to

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:20.080
<v Speaker 1>go to trial and get investigated like every other fucking

0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:23.000
<v Speaker 1>person does or should, and then they could it could

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 1>be determined, Like listen, he might go to court and

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:28.839
<v Speaker 1>then Jory might stay not guilty and he could be free,

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:31.719
<v Speaker 1>and we need to respect that. But until then, he

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:35.000
<v Speaker 1>broke a law, and we need to like investigate that law.

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:38.920
<v Speaker 1>You can't be threatening people that they're that they're a snitch,

0:48:39.680 --> 0:48:42.719
<v Speaker 1>like he killed somebody. It just just like blows my

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 1>fucking mind, honestly, all Right, So I want to talk

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>about this like really similar thing that happened in Philly.

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 1>So during the riots a couple of years ago, you know,

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:55.840
<v Speaker 1>people were flipping police cars over and setting them on fire,

0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and then photographers were at the scene taking pictures of

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:03.160
<v Speaker 1>all this. And in this one particular photo, the police

0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:05.560
<v Speaker 1>were trying to figure out who set this cop car

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:08.399
<v Speaker 1>on fire. It's a crime to do something like that,

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:13.440
<v Speaker 1>so they deserved it, that's what people think. But anyway,

0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 1>in the pictures, most of the people are wearing masks

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:18.640
<v Speaker 1>or their faces are covered, so they were having a

0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:21.040
<v Speaker 1>really hard time identifying the people that were setting the

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 1>cop cars on fire. This was what was really interesting

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to me. In one of the pictures, there was a

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:30.799
<v Speaker 1>female wearing a very specific T shirt and they were

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 1>able to I guess Google reverse image to search. Google

0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:37.279
<v Speaker 1>reverse searched the image, you know what I'm trying to say.

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 1>They were able to figure out where the shirt came from,

0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:42.239
<v Speaker 1>and it was this very unique shirt from Etsy. So

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:44.440
<v Speaker 1>then they went to the Etsy shop and they went

0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:47.000
<v Speaker 1>through all the orders and they figured out who found

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 1>it through. That's what they should do. That's what cops do.

0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 1>And that person got arrested. Okay, so then they got arrested,

0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:57.160
<v Speaker 1>and then that's what should happen, and then the jury

0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 1>could decide if they should be in trouble or not,

0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:03.279
<v Speaker 1>because that's how it works in this country. Yeah, I mean,

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I just think it's like, you know, if you're if

0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you're committing a crime, it's just it's not that hard

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:15.840
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four to find people, right, Like, even

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 1>if I see a T shirt I like on TV,

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll take a picture of my TV, go to Google

0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:23.279
<v Speaker 1>and reverse image search it and I will find it.

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:26.920
<v Speaker 1>So of course, when you're wearing a really specific T shirt,

0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:29.240
<v Speaker 1>not just like a black long sleeve shirt or black

0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 1>T shirt, somebody's gonna probably be able to find it. Really,

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:35.439
<v Speaker 1>this guy and this is this is what's really sad

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:39.480
<v Speaker 1>because I feel it's the same exact thing with you

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.919
<v Speaker 1>could talk about two different companies right now. You could

0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:46.520
<v Speaker 1>talk about McDonald's and now this backpack company. This guy

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:49.440
<v Speaker 1>is like a backpack company, and it's not like a

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 1>huge corporation like JanSport or something. It's like the guys.

0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:56.720
<v Speaker 1>The guy's just trying to make a living. He has

0:50:56.760 --> 0:51:01.080
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with like anything, and he's he gets

0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:04.760
<v Speaker 1>pulled into it because a murderer is wearing his product.

0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:08.680
<v Speaker 1>And now not only like he said when he called

0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:11.680
<v Speaker 1>to report it, that that was his company, he said

0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 1>that they already had had multiple tips that that backpack

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 1>was from that company, and if they were onto it,

0:51:18.080 --> 0:51:20.239
<v Speaker 1>if he called or not, he was going to get

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a court order to give over his customers exactly, So

0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 1>he's he's screwed either way, just because the guy. Now, like,

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 1>what is if the cops come to him and say

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:32.239
<v Speaker 1>we need the records from this particular model of backpack,

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 1>he can't say no legally or hol go to jail

0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 1>for withholding evidence. So if he gives it, then he's

0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 1>a snitch. Like it. People just don't even think of

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the positions people are in. It's the same shit with

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the McDonald's, Like, what the fuck does McDonald's have to

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:48.759
<v Speaker 1>do with this guy who killed someone and happened to

0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 1>be sitting there at that moment in timey in a

0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:53.960
<v Speaker 1>hash brown, Like people are leaving negative reviews on that

0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:58.080
<v Speaker 1>particular location of the McDonald's that's an individually owned franchise,

0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:00.759
<v Speaker 1>that you're fucking somebody's business up because that it has

0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:03.280
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with this guy. I think we could,

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you know. It's just like people are fucking idiots sometimes,

0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I swear, even take yourself out of this situation and

0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:12.759
<v Speaker 1>how you feel other way, just think about anything that

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 1>happens in life anymore. People are just so easy to

0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 1>make a TikTok, leave a review or anything. I think

0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:24.879
<v Speaker 1>people are just like unwell because if this, if the

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:28.839
<v Speaker 1>slightest thing happens that you do not like, people are

0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:31.320
<v Speaker 1>the first to jump on TikTok and make a video

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 1>talking shit about it. You know. The craziest thing to

0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:38.560
<v Speaker 1>me is that there's always, like, throughout history and stuff,

0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 1>you always could think about people from any side, and

0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:45.440
<v Speaker 1>whatever you think about, there's always like certain things that

0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 1>most people could agree with. And shit got so fucking

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:52.239
<v Speaker 1>weird in the past couple of years. Like I used

0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:55.560
<v Speaker 1>to think that if you said to somebody, what do

0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you think about grown ups having sex with children? That

0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>every single person in the country would be like fuck them,

0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:05.919
<v Speaker 1>Like those people are discussing human beings, and now there's

0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:08.840
<v Speaker 1>people that like, they don't they want to talk about it,

0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:13.800
<v Speaker 1>and they don't necessarily disagree with it. Like then you think, okay,

0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:16.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe we could all agree that murder's bad, right, we

0:53:16.560 --> 0:53:18.440
<v Speaker 1>all could say, like you shouldn't be able to go

0:53:18.520 --> 0:53:20.239
<v Speaker 1>up to somebody in the middle of New York City

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:22.319
<v Speaker 1>and shoot them in the head because you disagree with

0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:25.880
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing. And now it's like you can like,

0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:28.920
<v Speaker 1>how could you how could we ever? Like you have

0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:31.880
<v Speaker 1>the nice people if we can't keep on like these basic,

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:36.120
<v Speaker 1>these basic human things. But then people will come back

0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:38.359
<v Speaker 1>at you and say, what's the difference if that guy

0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:42.080
<v Speaker 1>got murdered because he killed many more people with his

0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 1>horrible policies. Yeah, and so did doctor Fauci, and and

0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:48.080
<v Speaker 1>and I could go on the list of thousands. I

0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:50.359
<v Speaker 1>could name fifty people off the top of my head

0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:53.880
<v Speaker 1>right now that like, how about people that do brownouts

0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:56.640
<v Speaker 1>on fire companies and people that are short staffed in

0:53:56.880 --> 0:54:00.439
<v Speaker 1>police departments and blah blah blah. There's always there's always

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:03.400
<v Speaker 1>somebody like I bring this example up of like some

0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:06.120
<v Speaker 1>of my old bosses at the hospital that would just

0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:08.680
<v Speaker 1>like cut corners all the time and cut staff and

0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:11.600
<v Speaker 1>overwork the staff that was there. And people's cancer what

0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:13.799
<v Speaker 1>and get diagnosed correctly or this that or the other,

0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:16.439
<v Speaker 1>which ultimate will lead to them dying, Like you could

0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:20.399
<v Speaker 1>just you could talk about it so many people, right,

0:54:20.440 --> 0:54:23.400
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, let's move on. Speaking of VETSI, they

0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:27.240
<v Speaker 1>removed Luigi Merch because people were making ornament t shirts

0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and everything, and they there was a gofunme that started,

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:33.880
<v Speaker 1>but gofunn took it down. But there is another active

0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:37.240
<v Speaker 1>fundraising website which has raised over one hundred and thirty

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:41.600
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. It's so funny how you like you could

0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:44.480
<v Speaker 1>see all of these kits and it's it's a lot

0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:46.680
<v Speaker 1>of it is like young people that are just it

0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:49.400
<v Speaker 1>just can't think for themselves and they just jump on

0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:52.319
<v Speaker 1>the latest trend. You can really write a list of

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:54.239
<v Speaker 1>all of the different things that have happened over the

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:56.960
<v Speaker 1>couple years and been like this is the trending thing.

0:54:57.080 --> 0:54:59.160
<v Speaker 1>So now it's like the trending thing for all these

0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:01.960
<v Speaker 1>people to be doing these posts saying they were with

0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Luigi between that time period for an albi. Have you

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:08.439
<v Speaker 1>seen those? No, there's like all these people will post

0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:10.680
<v Speaker 1>a picture of them like under a Christmas tree with

0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:13.719
<v Speaker 1>him cropped into it, and they'll say I was with

0:55:13.880 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Luigi on December fourth between the hours of six am

0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:20.239
<v Speaker 1>and six pm or something like that, like saying that

0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:23.160
<v Speaker 1>they are his alibi. But there's like lots of people

0:55:23.239 --> 0:55:25.960
<v Speaker 1>posting it, just like randos, but they're all they're all

0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:29.319
<v Speaker 1>young people. It's a trend whatever, Like let me be

0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:31.800
<v Speaker 1>cool with my friends. Yeah, just get out. I'm exhausted

0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:34.400
<v Speaker 1>by this topic. I just want to move on. Okay,

0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:37.800
<v Speaker 1>all right, influencer Hannah Hyatt is being investigated by police

0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:40.000
<v Speaker 1>after posting a video where her son appeared to be

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:44.720
<v Speaker 1>flinching and afraid of her and her husband. So I couldn't.

0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I found the video and like half of it is

0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:50.799
<v Speaker 1>blurred out. She apparently took it down. So do you

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:54.239
<v Speaker 1>have any insight on this? Because it looked like the

0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:56.360
<v Speaker 1>kid was sitting in a shop and car and the

0:55:56.840 --> 0:55:59.000
<v Speaker 1>dad was like going to put a box in the

0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:02.160
<v Speaker 1>car and the kid like jumped back, and all these

0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:04.560
<v Speaker 1>people are saying that he was flinching, like he was

0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:07.879
<v Speaker 1>scared he was gonna get hit or something. How could

0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:10.759
<v Speaker 1>you possibly tell that from a video. I'm not even

0:56:10.800 --> 0:56:13.320
<v Speaker 1>defending her, Listen, I have a serious problem with people

0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:16.040
<v Speaker 1>using their children heavily on social media, So I just

0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 1>try to put that out there. I'm not defending her,

0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:21.279
<v Speaker 1>but like, how can you seriously tell something like that

0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:23.880
<v Speaker 1>from a video to the point where child protective services

0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:27.520
<v Speaker 1>is involved? Well, I think child protective services have to

0:56:27.520 --> 0:56:30.160
<v Speaker 1>be involved if people call them if they can't ignore

0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the calls. So right there, that doesn't mean that doesn't

0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:36.959
<v Speaker 1>mean anything. I I and like I said, the whole

0:56:37.280 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 1>like literally half the video was blurred out, so I

0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:42.160
<v Speaker 1>couldn't see the kid's face, but I saw what it

0:56:42.200 --> 0:56:44.080
<v Speaker 1>looked like. The guy was like holding a box in

0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the freezer section and like going to like put it

0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:49.799
<v Speaker 1>into the car, and maybe the kid flinched because they

0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:52.279
<v Speaker 1>thought that the box was coming too close to their

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:54.759
<v Speaker 1>face or something like. I don't really know because I

0:56:54.800 --> 0:56:57.600
<v Speaker 1>couldn't one hundred percent make it out. But I do

0:56:57.680 --> 0:57:02.000
<v Speaker 1>think that it's almost fucked up to start a viral

0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:07.000
<v Speaker 1>claim that a kid looks like like they're getting child abused,

0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 1>when what if that's like genuinely didn't happen, and now

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:15.400
<v Speaker 1>you're publicly accusing a father of beating their child, and

0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:19.080
<v Speaker 1>even if it's proven that that doesn't happen, like those

0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:22.680
<v Speaker 1>accusations never really go away, Like that's always going to

0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:26.160
<v Speaker 1>be like permanently tattooed on this guy. I think the

0:57:26.200 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 1>bigger conversation we need to have is, you know, I

0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:31.560
<v Speaker 1>don't see a problem with people posting photos and everything

0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:33.680
<v Speaker 1>of their kids, their little funny moments here or there,

0:57:33.680 --> 0:57:37.640
<v Speaker 1>But when your primary content involves your child, I don't

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:41.040
<v Speaker 1>understand how you're being a present mother and well we

0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:43.400
<v Speaker 1>should just die. And you could argue that they're setting

0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:46.640
<v Speaker 1>their self up. You're putting yourself out there for that.

0:57:48.000 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 1>And there were other videos too. I guess there was

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:53.920
<v Speaker 1>another video where she was like how many dirty diapers

0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 1>can you find around the house? And there was like

0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:58.800
<v Speaker 1>seventeen diapers or something in this video all around the

0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:04.880
<v Speaker 1>house up in this corner, in this corner, and like

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:08.680
<v Speaker 1>that's you know, that's people will say, oh, they're they're

0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:11.520
<v Speaker 1>they're living in unsanitary conditions and stuff like that, but

0:58:11.640 --> 0:58:15.040
<v Speaker 1>like when you point it was probably it probably isn't

0:58:15.080 --> 0:58:17.280
<v Speaker 1>even real. That's the thing. Like people make videos and

0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:19.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like they're the kids will tell me about these

0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:21.280
<v Speaker 1>videos all the time, and I'm like, that didn't even happen.

0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:23.800
<v Speaker 1>They completely set that up. Like this mister Beasts guy

0:58:23.880 --> 0:58:26.760
<v Speaker 1>has like a whole staff behind these cameras. Like a

0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:28.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of it is just like set up shit, you

0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Like I don't know, so I'm

0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:34.600
<v Speaker 1>not I'm not defending her either. I think that I

0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:38.280
<v Speaker 1>think that she's just another person that's like a nurse

0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:40.200
<v Speaker 1>or something that's doing this with the kids. And you're

0:58:40.280 --> 0:58:44.400
<v Speaker 1>just like why, like now, like if you're under investigation

0:58:44.520 --> 0:58:46.320
<v Speaker 1>for child abuse, I'm not sure that you could be

0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:48.320
<v Speaker 1>a nurse and work in a hospital. I don't, I

0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:53.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know, you know, like just fucking stupid. But but listen,

0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Like there's a real case that happened this Ruby Frank

0:58:56.480 --> 0:59:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Lady for recovered it a bunch. Yeah, So so this

0:59:00.560 --> 0:59:04.880
<v Speaker 1>has happened where there was a mom influencer on YouTube

0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that had millions of followers who was actually abusing her

0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:11.920
<v Speaker 1>children to the point where she was tying them up

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and not feeding them. And the kid escaped the house

0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and had raw marks on the around their hands and

0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:22.040
<v Speaker 1>legs where they were like had rope tied around them

0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:26.120
<v Speaker 1>too tight, which is a chronic wound. It's not something

0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:30.080
<v Speaker 1>that just happened from a one time thing. And she

0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:36.600
<v Speaker 1>got charged with what aggravated child abuse and like she's

0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 1>in prison right now, right I don't know the status

0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:41.800
<v Speaker 1>of where she is right now. I think that so

0:59:41.920 --> 0:59:44.600
<v Speaker 1>many people are using their children in their social media

0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 1>that they're literally making laws about the children getting paid

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<v Speaker 1>from being in the videos. Which is so ridiculous to

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<v Speaker 1>think that so many kids are on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>and everything that they are now getting a cut of

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<v Speaker 1>money that their parents are making off of using them,

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<v Speaker 1>which they should. They should. I'm just saying the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of children being used in that way is ridiculous. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's just similar to you know, we watch like Disney

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<v Speaker 1>Channel shows with kids and their kid actors. Right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>literally the same thing like when you have And we

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<v Speaker 1>know this because we have a social media channel that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't even post anywhere nearly as much as some

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<v Speaker 1>of these people do. It's it's a job. And to

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<v Speaker 1>think every single time we do a post, we would

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to our kids and be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to come here and work because we need

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<v Speaker 1>to make this video. It's a job for them and

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<v Speaker 1>they should. They should get paid and have some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of protections. You could say that they are living the

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<v Speaker 1>money because usually a parent will buy a better house

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<v Speaker 1>or a better car or whatever. But like, ultimately the

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<v Speaker 1>parents can blow through all the money and the child

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<v Speaker 1>will have nothing and they're completely exploited by the time

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<v Speaker 1>they're an adult. So they should have some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rights as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Ellen Greenberg. We talked about her on this show in August.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about her quite a lot in the gross Room.

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<v Speaker 1>She is the teacher that was found dead back in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eleven. It was initially ruled a homicide, then switched

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<v Speaker 1>to a suicide, but her family is working to get

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<v Speaker 1>the manner of death switch back to homicide or undetermined,

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<v Speaker 1>and now her fiance at the time of her death

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<v Speaker 1>is speaking out for the first time since. So obviously

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<v Speaker 1>with this case, it's just a big We did a

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<v Speaker 1>high profile death dis section on this two years ago now,

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<v Speaker 1>and we really broke it down. It's two parts, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just really goes through the autopsy report and breaks

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<v Speaker 1>down every single thing that was seen, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>listen to one side of the story and say it

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely suicide, or one side of the story and

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<v Speaker 1>say it was definitely homicide, whatever it ends up being

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<v Speaker 1>if they do ever reopen the case and look into

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<v Speaker 1>it more. The boyfriend at the time or the fiance

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, had a lot of suspicious behavior around

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<v Speaker 1>around her death, and that's why he's always been had

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<v Speaker 1>the spot light on him. And in addition to that,

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<v Speaker 1>he had some people in his family that like, what

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<v Speaker 1>did they work for the DA's office or something. There

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<v Speaker 1>was there was some there was something with one of

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<v Speaker 1>the uncles or something that he called right away after

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<v Speaker 1>it happened, and he was a higher up person in

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia government as far as that's concerned. So and just

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<v Speaker 1>the whole entire way that the death went down. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, let's say suicide, right, there's definitely things that

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<v Speaker 1>we could say were suicide. She didn't have any history

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<v Speaker 1>of suicidal ideations, but she was very anxious because she

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<v Speaker 1>was getting married and so much so she couldn't sleep

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<v Speaker 1>or anything, and she was being she was having doctor's

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<v Speaker 1>appointments with a psychiatrist that she only saw two or

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<v Speaker 1>three times over the course of two weeks, and during

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<v Speaker 1>that time she was given multiple psychiatric drugs, including zoloft.

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<v Speaker 1>So this just happened within a two week period. She

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<v Speaker 1>was given zoloft and then they said she said it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't working, which I was under the assumption that an

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<v Speaker 1>SSRI takes at least two weeks to give the full effects.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they switched her to xanax. Then they prescribed her

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<v Speaker 1>ambient and Kuanipinus sleep. All of those drugs have they

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<v Speaker 1>can have a history of causing people to have psychotic episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>so that alone could have caused her to be suicidal.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time and psychosis like doing something like stabbing

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<v Speaker 1>yourself multiple times. Also, the forensic evidence showed that she

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<v Speaker 1>there was no DNA on the weapon or her clothes

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<v Speaker 1>except hers. There was no other foreign DNA, which means

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<v Speaker 1>nothing because a person could go around that by wearing

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<v Speaker 1>gloves or something like that. Also, in the autopsy report,

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<v Speaker 1>it did say that she had stabbed herself in then,

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<v Speaker 1>but she had nicked the dora matter, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>covering around the spinal cord, but did not sever it,

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<v Speaker 1>which would have caused her to still be capable to

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<v Speaker 1>use it to use her arms to do additional stab wounds.

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<v Speaker 1>But the biggest, the biggest fight against this is that

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<v Speaker 1>the autopsy report in itself and the person that performed

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<v Speaker 1>the autopsy was just such a complete shit show that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know, we don't know what happened, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why the report is so important. Could you

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<v Speaker 1>argue that if you if like the medical examiner, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not supposed to do this. I'm just saying, could

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<v Speaker 1>you argue that if the medical examiner goes into a

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<v Speaker 1>case thinking it's a certain way, that they're only looking

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<v Speaker 1>for signs of that, so that when then you when

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<v Speaker 1>you want to change it and go back and evaluate it,

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<v Speaker 1>they might not have other information that could be helpful

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<v Speaker 1>in changing the cause of death. Yeah, and I one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent that think that's a possibility in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>just because he did initially roll it a homicide. So

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<v Speaker 1>he gets he gets the body, you know, he gets

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<v Speaker 1>the whole investigative report too, before the body. But when

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<v Speaker 1>he's at the medical examiner's office, opens the body bag

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<v Speaker 1>and has this body, and all he reads is she

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<v Speaker 1>was stabbed twenty times, found in her apartment by her boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Like all these specific facts is they didn't have all

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<v Speaker 1>of the evidence of the kaisha obviously, they didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>about the DNA yet and all of this stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's I don't I don't I think that any person

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<v Speaker 1>in the world would be like, Okay, you got stabbed

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<v Speaker 1>twenty times or whatever, like clearly somebody did this. But

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<v Speaker 1>like when you're a medical examiner, you just need to

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<v Speaker 1>keep your mind open that this could be anything. But

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<v Speaker 1>he initially rolled it a homicide, which makes me think, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that he did go into the autopsy thinking it was

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<v Speaker 1>a homicide and just was documenting these stab wounds. But

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<v Speaker 1>this medical examiner particular in Philadelphia had multiple reprimanded letters

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<v Speaker 1>for being sloppy with his autopsy reports, and like, the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom line is that her body, her autopsy's done, and

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<v Speaker 1>her body's gone, and there's no one to go back

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<v Speaker 1>and look at what was there except the documentation that

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<v Speaker 1>he provided and what they could look at with whatever

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<v Speaker 1>sections they took under the microscope. And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest things that they say in this case is that

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<v Speaker 1>the injury to her spinal cord. So if it was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they only like the knife tip but pushed the spinal

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<v Speaker 1>cord but didn't do anything, then yes, she could have

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<v Speaker 1>used her arms. But if it could it even a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, then she wouldn't have been able to There's

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, like how could she have done that?

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<v Speaker 1>And she would have already been dead or she would

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<v Speaker 1>have been paralyzed or whatever. But like now there's no

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<v Speaker 1>going back kind of so now you just have to

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<v Speaker 1>look at what evidence is available. She had multiple searches

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<v Speaker 1>on her computer computer during the time of taking all

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<v Speaker 1>those weird drugs that were referencing suicide. Perhaps there was

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<v Speaker 1>she was looking up suffocation, suicide methods, sex fantasy death

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<v Speaker 1>electrocuted by death in a bathtub. Just weird things like

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<v Speaker 1>that that make you think like, yeah, it's it's possible,

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<v Speaker 1>even though she wasn't talking about suicide, that she could

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<v Speaker 1>have because of these drugs, and that maybe that psychiatrist

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<v Speaker 1>that prescribed her that concoction should be looked into as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the fiance was acting weird as hell afterwards

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<v Speaker 1>too and has been silent, untild. Now how long ago

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<v Speaker 1>did this happen. It was in twenty eleven, Yeah, thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>years thirteen years ago. So that makes you think like, well, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on here? And that doesn't make him guilty

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<v Speaker 1>though it does, It doesn't. It doesn't make him guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that when you and and listen, like

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<v Speaker 1>this is one thing that we learned, like everybody acts

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<v Speaker 1>different when someone dies, like even in your family or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like everyone handles death differently. It just was

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<v Speaker 1>like the whole and I don't know all of the

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<v Speaker 1>d tells about how he acted. I just remember when

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote it up, I was just kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a little weird how it's all handled. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he didn't he like call his uncle before

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<v Speaker 1>he called nine one one or something weird. It just

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<v Speaker 1>was like stuff that you just normally wouldn't do. You can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You just can't say that because you've never been in

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<v Speaker 1>a position like that, So you just can't say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I can say it. I just said it. Obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing to do is to call the police first,

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<v Speaker 1>but some people are in serious state of shock that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know what to do. Yeah, I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>like the nine one one call sounds Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>listened to it? It sounds a little stage. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the whole thing is just weird. But the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>line is is that the biggest thing to learn from

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<v Speaker 1>this case is that the autopsy report, if it was

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<v Speaker 1>done by like a legit person, this wouldn't even have

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<v Speaker 1>been a question. And now you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really important to make sure that your report

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<v Speaker 1>is like as accurate as can be because in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know what I mean, it's it's it's so important.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to the actual story, which is what he

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<v Speaker 1>said speaking out because we've already explained this case a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of times. The fiance is saying, I hope and

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<v Speaker 1>pray that you never lose someone you love like I

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<v Speaker 1>did to a terrible disease, meaning mental health, and then

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<v Speaker 1>be accused by ignorant and misinformed people of causing her death.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're really writing a truthful story, dig deeper and

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<v Speaker 1>please do some good by raising awareness for mental health.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think you know, it's been all these years

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<v Speaker 1>and he's probably just it's a dramatic thing to go through.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether he did it questionably or not. I mean, right

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<v Speaker 1>now he didn't because he's not been convicted of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but the case has been coming up a lot recently.

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<v Speaker 1>They're re looking at the case and trying to change

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<v Speaker 1>the manner of death. And now I think Nancy's writing

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<v Speaker 1>an entire book about it, so it's pretty hot. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they didn't they just say a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>ago that they're not opening it again or something. I don't, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly know. I think I think that's I think we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that on here. Actually, well we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>back in August that they were going to look at

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<v Speaker 1>it and see if it was eligible to be I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe we didn't talk about it when we happened,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think they said at this time they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't they don't. They're not looking into it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously the parents are still going to try to

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<v Speaker 1>keep appealing it. And but like, like, look at this

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<v Speaker 1>from the parent's perspective, it's like you get a call

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<v Speaker 1>that your daughter's dead, which is just tragic, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you find out that the preliminary autopsy reports at homicide.

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<v Speaker 1>So now, in your mind, your child was murdered by somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>and who you're gonna think it was her fiance, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't fame the parents at all for fighting. And

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<v Speaker 1>then like a couple of days later or whatever, they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>never mind, it was suicide. You would be like, what

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<v Speaker 1>she did, She wasn't even suicidal. But you know, people

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<v Speaker 1>are suicidal all the time and their parents don't know it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's one thing. But from her parents' perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be this. Every single person would be the

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<v Speaker 1>same way, like, how the hell do you say this

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<v Speaker 1>was a homicide and then change it to suicide? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't blame I don't blame them for fighting in

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<v Speaker 1>it at all, because the report was sloppy, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>like the central point of this at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day. And then I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>just have a really hard time accepting if it was

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<v Speaker 1>if what really happened was that she died by suicide.

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<v Speaker 1>I think some people have a really hard time just

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<v Speaker 1>accepting that as the true answer. Yeah, I especially when

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<v Speaker 1>you have the most sloppy, all topsy report of all times.

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<v Speaker 1>So and listen, like, even if this is my opinion

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<v Speaker 1>and this could be whatever, But even if they reopen

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<v Speaker 1>the case and go through everything, I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>they're really ever going to get the answer they want

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<v Speaker 1>because there's just unless. The only saving thing, which I

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<v Speaker 1>never really got to the bottom of this, is if

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<v Speaker 1>they took like if he was talking about that spinal

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<v Speaker 1>cord injury and he took very good photographs of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only way that they're going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to go through this again and say that injury. If

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<v Speaker 1>she had that injury, there's no way she could have

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<v Speaker 1>done anything else with her arms at that point. That

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<v Speaker 1>But if they don't, if they don't have a photograph

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<v Speaker 1>and all they have is in writing what he saw,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's nothing can really change. It's just somebody analyzing

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<v Speaker 1>the data that's already there. Differently, Yeah, Okay, medical news,

1:12:18.000 --> 1:12:21.520
<v Speaker 1>we only have one story this week, but it's just unusual.

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<v Speaker 1>But this guy would not take talk to warn others though.

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<v Speaker 1>While he was at the gym, he put a towel

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<v Speaker 1>down on a piece of equipment then picked it up

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<v Speaker 1>to rub his face. After that, he thought he had

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<v Speaker 1>contracted pink eye, but it actually turned out to be chmydia. Yeah,

1:12:35.439 --> 1:12:39.320
<v Speaker 1>so I guess the video is showing this other doctor

1:12:39.360 --> 1:12:43.000
<v Speaker 1>doing a video online saying that you can't you can

1:12:43.080 --> 1:12:48.320
<v Speaker 1>only contract chlamydia because of you know, the bacteria can't

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<v Speaker 1>really survive outside of the body, and basically saying that

1:12:52.640 --> 1:12:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that claim wasn't true. But I found a paper journal

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<v Speaker 1>from nineteen ninety five from Cornia Journal that said that

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<v Speaker 1>they concluded that non porous plastic surfaces can serve as

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<v Speaker 1>a potential vector for the transmission of chlamydia infection to

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<v Speaker 1>the eye, especially under humid conditions. So they did a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of studies with the bacteria and they saw that

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<v Speaker 1>like in normal in normal conditions, it cannot survive off

1:13:22.680 --> 1:13:25.080
<v Speaker 1>of the human body for long. But that's because the

1:13:25.160 --> 1:13:28.320
<v Speaker 1>human body is a certain temperature and keeps it, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, that that's what helps nourish it

1:13:30.120 --> 1:13:33.719
<v Speaker 1>and keep it alive. So if it's in a humid condition,

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<v Speaker 1>like let's say, sweat from a gym hot, you know

1:13:38.760 --> 1:13:41.720
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Like it in theory, it could. It's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like, okay, everybody needs to just like be

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<v Speaker 1>careful of this, but like in theory, according to this paper,

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<v Speaker 1>it could happen. Well. I also saw later in the

1:13:50.479 --> 1:13:53.200
<v Speaker 1>article it said that you could possibly contract it by

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<v Speaker 1>sharing sex toys. And what's different between a bench at

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<v Speaker 1>the gym and a sex toy because they're both objects taken. Yeah,

1:14:01.120 --> 1:14:04.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and that's true that you can it's I

1:14:04.439 --> 1:14:09.000
<v Speaker 1>guess with a sex toy. Like it wouldn't be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you use the sex toy and then leave it out

1:14:11.680 --> 1:14:13.640
<v Speaker 1>for ten days and then a person uses it and

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<v Speaker 1>gets it. It would have to be like at the same

1:14:16.000 --> 1:14:20.960
<v Speaker 1>time situation. So it's the same thing. Like, but listen,

1:14:21.000 --> 1:14:23.479
<v Speaker 1>you've been to the gym, right, Like sometimes you'll go

1:14:23.560 --> 1:14:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and see men whatever, but women especially because your your

1:14:30.400 --> 1:14:33.080
<v Speaker 1>fluids are just like right there out in the open, right,

1:14:33.120 --> 1:14:36.840
<v Speaker 1>It's like you're wearing a pair of leggings and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not wearing underwear underneath. It's only just like a thin

1:14:39.720 --> 1:14:42.920
<v Speaker 1>layer of fabric between you and the bench that you're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on. How many times have you seen like full

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<v Speaker 1>on ass and layby a prints on like the chairs

1:14:49.240 --> 1:14:51.800
<v Speaker 1>at the gym and stuff. It's if if you went

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<v Speaker 1>from like wet to wet it in theory, it could

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<v Speaker 1>potentially happen. Is it common to not wear underwear at

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<v Speaker 1>the gym? Because I don't think I really knew this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not a gym person. I mean, you could

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<v Speaker 1>just tell by looking at me that I'm person, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know what. I don't know. I've

1:15:09.800 --> 1:15:13.479
<v Speaker 1>I've never not worn underwear to work out. I guess

1:15:13.520 --> 1:15:16.280
<v Speaker 1>it's just a common thing. Yeah, but people. Yeah, but

1:15:16.320 --> 1:15:18.200
<v Speaker 1>like if you want your ass to look good in

1:15:18.560 --> 1:15:21.680
<v Speaker 1>your leggings, then you wouldn't want to have like pantylones.

1:15:22.479 --> 1:15:24.720
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like it wouldn't. You're You're just not

1:15:24.880 --> 1:15:27.200
<v Speaker 1>that girl. But there's plenty of those people there. But

1:15:27.320 --> 1:15:29.800
<v Speaker 1>it's just like it's just like in theory, it could happen.

1:15:29.840 --> 1:15:32.240
<v Speaker 1>That's I mean, they have those wipes there that are

1:15:32.280 --> 1:15:35.200
<v Speaker 1>disinfected wipes, and you really should just wipe it down

1:15:35.240 --> 1:15:38.040
<v Speaker 1>because you can get other you could get like MRSA

1:15:38.120 --> 1:15:42.040
<v Speaker 1>infections and stuff like from people in situations like that,

1:15:42.200 --> 1:15:45.240
<v Speaker 1>So it's always good to just wipe stuff down before

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<v Speaker 1>you touch it anyway. Yeah, Like I think that general

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<v Speaker 1>rule is you're supposed to wipe the machine down after

1:15:52.120 --> 1:15:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you use it and sweat all over it. But you

1:15:54.160 --> 1:15:56.639
<v Speaker 1>know so many people are not doing that, So maybe

1:15:56.640 --> 1:15:59.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody just needs to get into the mindset of before

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<v Speaker 1>if I sit down on it, I'm going to wipe it

1:16:02.040 --> 1:16:03.920
<v Speaker 1>down first and then go from that. Yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if this guy who made the TikTok wasn't lying and

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't have any sexual contact with someone, then it's

1:16:09.280 --> 1:16:13.880
<v Speaker 1>completely possible. And that's why I mean that doctor probably

1:16:13.920 --> 1:16:16.400
<v Speaker 1>literally references paper that said that you can get I

1:16:16.560 --> 1:16:19.479
<v Speaker 1>chlamydia from a non poorous service. That's that's where he

1:16:19.520 --> 1:16:22.880
<v Speaker 1>got that information. If the guy because I actually know

1:16:23.000 --> 1:16:25.280
<v Speaker 1>somebody that that happened to, by the way, it was

1:16:26.800 --> 1:16:30.360
<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine, God in her eye actually from seamen.

1:16:30.520 --> 1:16:33.760
<v Speaker 1>But like I mean, if this guy that she was

1:16:33.800 --> 1:16:35.920
<v Speaker 1>in the act, she was in the act. Like, but

1:16:36.160 --> 1:16:39.080
<v Speaker 1>this TikTok dude, like if he didn't have sex like

1:16:39.120 --> 1:16:41.160
<v Speaker 1>that and he's being honest, then like, yeah, that's how

1:16:41.200 --> 1:16:46.400
<v Speaker 1>he got it disgusting. Okay, other death news, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we have lots of TikTok stories today. So this chick

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<v Speaker 1>went on TikTok and was explaining how her twin sister

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<v Speaker 1>died five years ago from viral meningitis. When it came

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<v Speaker 1>time to let their family know, the father thought that

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<v Speaker 1>her ninety year old grandparent and some distant relatives just

1:17:01.920 --> 1:17:05.200
<v Speaker 1>could not handle the information, so he had her pretend

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<v Speaker 1>to be the dead twin for the last five years.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit is so outrageous. It's outrageous. And what's even worse

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<v Speaker 1>is that recently the grandma was on the deathbed and

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<v Speaker 1>then she finally told her and I'm like, why would

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<v Speaker 1>you burden her with the information right before she died?

1:17:20.840 --> 1:17:23.080
<v Speaker 1>But she didn't want to be burdened with the lie anymore.

1:17:23.160 --> 1:17:26.760
<v Speaker 1>So like that's a a typical millennial thing to do.

1:17:26.800 --> 1:17:30.879
<v Speaker 1>It's just they're still get you. There's still out okay, boomer,

1:17:31.200 --> 1:17:35.160
<v Speaker 1>So they're still lying to the grandpop though, but they

1:17:35.200 --> 1:17:40.000
<v Speaker 1>have told other distant relatives at this point and they're pissed, Yeah,

1:17:40.120 --> 1:17:43.880
<v Speaker 1>what was she doing some like like you know all

1:17:43.920 --> 1:17:46.360
<v Speaker 1>these shows that they have, like the Parent Trap and

1:17:46.400 --> 1:17:49.519
<v Speaker 1>the liv and Maddie Show where it's like one actress

1:17:49.560 --> 1:17:52.360
<v Speaker 1>playing a twin. You could see how they do that

1:17:52.479 --> 1:17:54.400
<v Speaker 1>on a split screen, Like, how are you doing that

1:17:54.439 --> 1:17:56.680
<v Speaker 1>in real life? Was she bringing two outfits and going

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<v Speaker 1>in the bathroom and like changing and they know, I've

1:17:59.080 --> 1:18:02.439
<v Speaker 1>never seen together. I don't think they live near this

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<v Speaker 1>family at all, so I don't think they were like

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<v Speaker 1>seeing each other. They were just talking over like FaceTime

1:18:07.400 --> 1:18:11.000
<v Speaker 1>or the phone. Yeah, well, so it's obviously easier when

1:18:11.000 --> 1:18:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you're doing that, but the lady was in her nineties

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<v Speaker 1>or something. She was like, I mean, I understand from

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun's perspective that he doesn't want to upset his

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<v Speaker 1>mom because she's so fragile and old. But like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's crazier that the that the sister lost her sister,

1:18:31.080 --> 1:18:33.840
<v Speaker 1>which is which is terribly upsetting, and then had to

1:18:34.000 --> 1:18:37.280
<v Speaker 1>play along with this for her dad. Like the whole

1:18:37.280 --> 1:18:39.160
<v Speaker 1>thing is weird. How do you how do you just

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<v Speaker 1>like act normal and pretend to be a person that

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<v Speaker 1>died without getting upset? You know what I mean? Like

1:18:43.680 --> 1:18:48.200
<v Speaker 1>it it is, it's just very unusual situation. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And like some people in the comments were sympathetic to it.

1:18:51.520 --> 1:18:55.200
<v Speaker 1>And said they understood and they would do the same

1:18:55.280 --> 1:18:57.840
<v Speaker 1>thing to you know, not upset other people. And then

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people were like, what is wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 1>It's weird, and it is it is weird. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>weird too because if you think about it, like cause,

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<v Speaker 1>like I always talk about how just the younger you

1:19:09.040 --> 1:19:12.200
<v Speaker 1>people get, the softer and you can't handle anything. Right,

1:19:12.560 --> 1:19:15.920
<v Speaker 1>But like this lady's ninety some years old, right, she's

1:19:16.040 --> 1:19:19.679
<v Speaker 1>lived through like some shit. She's probably mad because she's

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<v Speaker 1>just like you, honestly think I couldn't handle that like

1:19:23.000 --> 1:19:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I've handled Think about what a person that's in their

1:19:25.800 --> 1:19:28.240
<v Speaker 1>nineties has dealt with in their life, you know what

1:19:28.320 --> 1:19:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like, don't don't try to tiptoe around my feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>I could handle anything. Plus, when you're in your nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>like every single person that you know has died, your parents,

1:19:38.400 --> 1:19:41.559
<v Speaker 1>your siblings, your friends. Like the older you get, the

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<v Speaker 1>more death you say that you can handle. Like It's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's kind of insulting to the mom to think

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<v Speaker 1>that she wouldn't have been able to handle it at

1:19:49.120 --> 1:19:52.080
<v Speaker 1>her age, you know, it's insulting, and now she's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>die knowing that a the granddaughter died and be her

1:19:56.520 --> 1:19:59.880
<v Speaker 1>loved ones are hiding this information from her, which is

1:20:00.080 --> 1:20:04.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of unsettling. Yeah, it's just like telling your husband, Oh,

1:20:04.360 --> 1:20:06.320
<v Speaker 1>I know we've been married for fifty years, but one

1:20:06.360 --> 1:20:08.200
<v Speaker 1>of your kids is in yours or something like. You

1:20:08.200 --> 1:20:10.840
<v Speaker 1>don't tell somebody something. Yeah, it's to get it off

1:20:10.880 --> 1:20:14.040
<v Speaker 1>your chest. It's not for them, you know. Well, I

1:20:14.080 --> 1:20:16.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I just I just can't agree with it now,

1:20:16.920 --> 1:20:19.280
<v Speaker 1>me neither. All right, let's move on to Questions of

1:20:19.360 --> 1:20:21.559
<v Speaker 1>the Day. Every Friday on the at mother nos Death

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram account, you guys can head over to our story

1:20:24.000 --> 1:20:27.519
<v Speaker 1>and ask whatever questions you want first. With what you

1:20:27.560 --> 1:20:30.040
<v Speaker 1>see in your career, has it made you more worrisome

1:20:30.080 --> 1:20:36.080
<v Speaker 1>as a mother? Yes? What examples? I have too many examples.

1:20:36.120 --> 1:20:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm just worried all the time anytime. I mean, I'm

1:20:38.120 --> 1:20:41.920
<v Speaker 1>sure you heard every on today's episode Vicious Dogs marijuana,

1:20:44.000 --> 1:20:49.040
<v Speaker 1>it's listed social media erratic behavior. Yes, this episode, I

1:20:49.040 --> 1:20:53.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like really surmises all. There's plenty more, trust me,

1:20:53.240 --> 1:20:55.960
<v Speaker 1>lots of lots of medical stuff too. You know. It's

1:20:56.000 --> 1:20:59.439
<v Speaker 1>just like well Lillian said to me this morning, She's like,

1:20:59.520 --> 1:21:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I as a pain in my head, right, here, and

1:21:02.080 --> 1:21:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, oh my god, you know, like I

1:21:04.160 --> 1:21:06.160
<v Speaker 1>go through like what could that be? Because she's complained

1:21:06.160 --> 1:21:08.880
<v Speaker 1>about it for the past two days. Yeah, but you

1:21:09.080 --> 1:21:12.160
<v Speaker 1>also are so reactive when they tell you something's wrong

1:21:12.200 --> 1:21:14.000
<v Speaker 1>with them that I feel like they just do it

1:21:14.080 --> 1:21:17.400
<v Speaker 1>for anything, Like she's always like my fingertip hurts, and

1:21:17.439 --> 1:21:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, but I don't get nervous about that.

1:21:20.160 --> 1:21:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I get nervous about like anything in the head and

1:21:22.920 --> 1:21:26.479
<v Speaker 1>body situation. But yeah, like I like it's typical and

1:21:26.720 --> 1:21:29.439
<v Speaker 1>normal for me to just be like, where is that

1:21:29.560 --> 1:21:33.439
<v Speaker 1>anatomically located? Let me go through the differential diagnosis of

1:21:33.479 --> 1:21:35.479
<v Speaker 1>a child in her age, like what could that be?

1:21:35.720 --> 1:21:38.960
<v Speaker 1>And like obviously, you know, I go through that, and

1:21:39.000 --> 1:21:41.160
<v Speaker 1>then I'm just like, it's it's probably she's stuffed up,

1:21:41.200 --> 1:21:43.559
<v Speaker 1>it's probably your sinus is whatever, like I do that stuff.

1:21:43.600 --> 1:21:46.960
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean it's how could I not Like

1:21:47.000 --> 1:21:50.240
<v Speaker 1>it's just and I always go to the worst thing

1:21:50.280 --> 1:21:53.519
<v Speaker 1>because that's just like I always see the worst of

1:21:53.560 --> 1:21:56.080
<v Speaker 1>the worst. So yeah, that's why we call you doctor

1:21:56.120 --> 1:21:59.519
<v Speaker 1>Death in our family, all right too. Will there be

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<v Speaker 1>more external exam episodes? Yeah, there there will be. We

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<v Speaker 1>just we're going to do those more on days that

1:22:07.960 --> 1:22:09.960
<v Speaker 1>that we're going to be off and stuff, just because

1:22:10.000 --> 1:22:12.840
<v Speaker 1>we find that we've had so many news stories that

1:22:12.880 --> 1:22:15.360
<v Speaker 1>we're cutting a lot of stories and we want to cover.

1:22:15.920 --> 1:22:18.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean, honestly, we still cover. We have enough to

1:22:18.479 --> 1:22:21.400
<v Speaker 1>do an episode every day, which just isn't happening at

1:22:21.400 --> 1:22:25.200
<v Speaker 1>this time. But you know, we want we we do

1:22:25.280 --> 1:22:30.280
<v Speaker 1>want to do other external exam episodes too, so that

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<v Speaker 1>will happen in the future, just whenever. It's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be like on a schedule, all right. Last favorite

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<v Speaker 1>holiday suite and favorite holiday dish. Some of these questions

1:22:42.120 --> 1:22:44.320
<v Speaker 1>that you guys submitted for the Christmas Q and A

1:22:44.520 --> 1:22:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I moved up that were to because that's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to come out till after Christmas, So one day answer

1:22:50.040 --> 1:22:52.920
<v Speaker 1>some of your questions. Okay, Christmas related questions, but this

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<v Speaker 1>was submitted for our Winter Q and A. Sweets, your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite holiday suite and your favorite holiday they dish like

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas cookies, I guess I would say, yeah, the rocatto

1:23:08.120 --> 1:23:11.519
<v Speaker 1>ones and petzels and stuff like that. A lot of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't eat ones that other people make, so I

1:23:14.240 --> 1:23:17.200
<v Speaker 1>have to make them myself with gluten frey. But they

1:23:17.280 --> 1:23:21.160
<v Speaker 1>taste just as good gluten free. I think the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the ricotta cheese cookies, they're like one of my favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna actually make them this weekend because I need

1:23:26.520 --> 1:23:29.479
<v Speaker 1>to taste that flavor is very specific to Christmas time.

1:23:29.760 --> 1:23:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm making them this weekend too. I was gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>you a bucks, all right, Well, then just do that

1:23:33.760 --> 1:23:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and then I won't do it save me sometime. Yeah,

1:23:38.200 --> 1:23:43.599
<v Speaker 1>so Christmas cookies for sure, and dish, I don't know,

1:23:44.320 --> 1:23:46.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't really like, well, we just went to the

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<v Speaker 1>party this weekend. Jen made that. Our cousin Jen made

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<v Speaker 1>that really good thing. I don't even know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>She's gluten free too, though, so it makes it easier.

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<v Speaker 1>But she makes it every year and you're I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk and describe it to you, and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>like it's so weird. But it's like this log of

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<v Speaker 1>like was sabi that's covered in cream, cheese or something

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds good, and then it's on a plate and

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<v Speaker 1>then she like pours soy sauce on it and like

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<v Speaker 1>green onions and then you eat it. You get like

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<v Speaker 1>a rice cracker and like just dip into it and

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<v Speaker 1>eat it. And it like, you know, it clears your

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<v Speaker 1>sinuses out because you just have this like big whiff

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<v Speaker 1>of wasabi. I don't know how she makes it, like

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<v Speaker 1>if there's anything else mixed in it. That's just what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gathering it is just based on looking at it.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds so weird at a Christmas party, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>like she she only makes it at the Christmas party,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's like one of my favorite things. I probably

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<v Speaker 1>ate half of it at the party the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>What else? What about you? My favorite holiday suite is

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<v Speaker 1>definitely cookies. My two favorite Christmas cookies are just classic

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<v Speaker 1>butter cookies with like sprinkles on them and chalk peppermint.

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<v Speaker 1>I make chocolate cookies with peppermint Hershey kisses, and those

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<v Speaker 1>are my favorite, absolute favorite Christmas cookie. My favorite holiday

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<v Speaker 1>dish I'm gonna say is Mom'sklonkies stuffed cabbage with ground

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<v Speaker 1>beef and rice and tomato, and it's delicious. Yeah, those

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<v Speaker 1>are good too, but she makes those other times a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Two they don't really remind me of Christmas necessarily, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're really good too. Yeah. I just can't think

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<v Speaker 1>off the top of because there's like lots of different

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<v Speaker 1>things because of the whole gluten situation. Like Aunt Evelyn

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<v Speaker 1>used to make this really good like pineapple stuffing thing

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<v Speaker 1>with the ham is so good, and then but I

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<v Speaker 1>can't have that. And I tried to make a gluten

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<v Speaker 1>free and it's okay, but it's it's not really the same.

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<v Speaker 1>And like Panatoni bread, you know that, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>is disgusting. No, it's so good. That's like one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite flavors ever. And so they have a gluten

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<v Speaker 1>free one. I think that brand shar you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>one that makes the lea. I think they make it,

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<v Speaker 1>but they never have it in stock at Wegmans and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to try it, but like their stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>like like I don't know how it's executed, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like it might be really good. You

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<v Speaker 1>could probably get a really good one online because they

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<v Speaker 1>hold up pretty well. Yeah, I've seen them online, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're like seventy dollars. Yeah, Panatoni is expensive to make.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when you get them at the store, they're

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<v Speaker 1>like mass manufactured. When you get really good homemade ones,

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<v Speaker 1>they're expensive to make. Remember, I don't mind spending seventy

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<v Speaker 1>dollars on a piece of bread. Well, I do, but

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<v Speaker 1>but like that's a risk. If I know that it

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<v Speaker 1>tastes delicious, then then you know, the best bread is

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<v Speaker 1>worth all the money in the world. But like I

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<v Speaker 1>do to take a risk, Like what if it tastes

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<v Speaker 1>like cardboard, I'd be like, oh cool. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>other appetizer I like that you can really have all year,

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<v Speaker 1>but I only try to have it Christmas because I

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<v Speaker 1>would eat it all the time, and it's like so

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<v Speaker 1>high calorie. Is when you get like a block of

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<v Speaker 1>cream cheese with the red pepper jelly. Oh yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>should get that on Christmas Eve. I am good at

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<v Speaker 1>I do it because I like that one too. It

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<v Speaker 1>is so delicious. I'm gonna try to make sour dough

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<v Speaker 1>as well, but hopefully it won't be the epic failure

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<v Speaker 1>that my Thanksgiving sour dough was. I tried to make

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<v Speaker 1>one of those like turkey shaped ones, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>looked so bad. It was so ridiculous looking. But whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm looking forward to the Christmas meals. I

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<v Speaker 1>just like eating a lot of Christmas cookies. And I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe neither of us mentioned Christmas coffees. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that those could be considered a holidays. Oh yeah, anything

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<v Speaker 1>like if you just put you could just use like

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<v Speaker 1>eggnog in your in your coffee instead of creamer. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so good that. And I had a white it's so

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<v Speaker 1>so like bad for you. Oh it's so horrible, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's so delicious. I had a white pepper Ma milka

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<v Speaker 1>the other day too, that was truly heavenly. Yeah. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been trying to stay away from those Starbucks strengths because

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<v Speaker 1>they're just like, they're like so many calories. I just can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean once in a while, like when you go

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas shopping and stuff. But I love I love them too.

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<v Speaker 1>They have that. I did try that one that was

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<v Speaker 1>like a macha like cookie flavor or something. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really good. That does sound good. All right, guys, Well,

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