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Speaker 3: I was booted out of a baby shower and discovered

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Speaker 3: I'm a dad.

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Speaker 2: You didn't need a real shower after all that.

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Speaker 3: She's not technically an ex since we were never in

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Speaker 3: an actual relationship. I twenty six mail was back home

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Speaker 3: for a few months, almost two years ago. We hooked

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Speaker 3: up for I'd say four months until I flew back

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Speaker 3: out of state for work again.

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Speaker 4: How long?

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Speaker 3: How many months were you there for? A few? Is

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Speaker 3: like two? You can't say, uh, we were hooking up

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Speaker 3: for four months if you were only there for a

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Speaker 2: English Major.

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Speaker 3: Her and I didn't see each other again until just

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Speaker 3: recently at this baby shower. By the way this comes from,

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Speaker 3: didn't leave before And if you want to submit your

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Speaker 2: I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, I'm Riley.

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Speaker 3: We're here to give good advice. Gooflee but we don't

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Speaker 3: have all the answers. We only know what we'd do,

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Speaker 3: So let us know what you would do in the

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Speaker 3: comments and Opisas I guess, they became friends through this

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Speaker 3: mom group. My friend as one other kid, and they

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Speaker 3: became good friends. So that's why she was also invited.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say hi when I saw her there,

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Speaker 3: but she ignored me. Then that's when I noticed she

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Speaker 3: was there with her boyfriend and their baby, so I

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Speaker 3: thought it was better to keep my distance, but she

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Speaker 3: actually approached me about ten minutes later by the bathroom

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Speaker 3: because she's with her boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: No, yes, be a big girl. See how you have

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Speaker 2: your boyfriend. That shouldn't matter now, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it should be fine. Also, who came first, because

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Speaker 3: if you were there first, she has no right to

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Speaker 2: Nah, no, this is it here, It is what he

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Speaker 2: has to leave because it's the baby shower. It's his baby.

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Speaker 3: Well no, but it's not her baby shower.

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Speaker 2: Whose baby showers?

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Speaker 3: So they have a mutual friend. Oh uh yeah, they didn't.

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Speaker 2: Really say that. Freaking well, okay, so they have a.

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Speaker 3: Mutual friend and they're both going to this baby shower.

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Speaker 3: He shows up and is like, oh, you're here with

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Speaker 3: But I hadn't even approached them at all, so why

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Speaker 3: She wasn't letting it go. She actually told me, please,

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Speaker 3: it's complicated. I told her that her her boyfriend doesn't

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Speaker 3: because I honestly don't care. All I was doing was

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Speaker 3: being there celebrating one of my close friend's days, So

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Speaker 3: if she left me alone, I'd leave her alone. That

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Speaker 3: didn't end up being the case. They left not even

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Speaker 3: an hour later. I kept my word about not going

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Speaker 2: Is that your baby? Is that his baby? Is that

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Speaker 2: your baby?

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Speaker 3: Opie? And you just inside, just your that's not fighting outside.

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Speaker 2: They from their adults from Charlie Brown.

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Speaker 3: Exactly a few minutes later, I saw her walking to

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Speaker 3: my friend probably telling her by, but she was definitely

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Speaker 3: Everyone at the party was confused, so they were all

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Speaker 3: talking about it for the rest of the time. For

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Speaker 2: Gotta love that. Gotta love the person who literally made

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Speaker 3: And what happened to be a baby shower. And also,

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Speaker 2: Or you could have just been chill, or you could

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Speaker 3: I asked her what could have been avoided, but again

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Speaker 3: then you just should have. I think you should go

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Speaker 2: It's complicated.

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Speaker 3: I can't tell you why, but you need to leave,

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Speaker 2: If she had explained why, then maybe I do leave.

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Speaker 2: But like, if you're just gonna tell me, no, I'm

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Speaker 3: It's not even her party, right, The whole party was

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to think now or why it

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Speaker 3: Am I the a hole for being the cause of

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Speaker 2: Do you think, Oh, she should have never requested that way.

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Speaker 3: It was a crazy request and also just very unreasonable

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Speaker 3: to ask at someone else's party where you're both there

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Speaker 3: to support your friends. No, no, no, I don't like

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Speaker 3: it one bit. And I think that kid's your kid.

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Speaker 2: Might be your kid. That might be the complicated thing

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Speaker 2: is that you're the father of that child.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: To really duke this out correctly, one guy gets the sword,

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Speaker 4: the other guy gets the sword. And just have that

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Speaker 2: You have, good old fashioned duellist sword fight.

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Speaker 3: Zolo Blaze says, not the a hole. If she would

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Speaker 3: You realized and kept your distance. And it was two

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Speaker 3: years ago. If you're still stuck on a hookup from

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Speaker 3: And you're also a friend of the host, so she

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Speaker 3: has no right to tell you to leave. Opi says,

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Speaker 3: Blaze says, My question is how did he know who

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Speaker 3: of us were expecting to see each other. Tory Potter says,

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Speaker 3: how old is her kid and could it possibly be

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Speaker 3: your This is the first first commentary that's throwing that

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Speaker 3: it be to go on to Reddit and be like, hey,

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Speaker 3: why do you you know? Am I the a hole

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Speaker 2: And then there baby got nowhere?

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Speaker 3: Hey, this seems like a huge overreaction for a previous

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Speaker 3: but I'd say probably under a year old, but definitely

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Speaker 3: Spiritual check says, search your social media. If she's in

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Speaker 3: age pretty easily, to be honest. Oh P says, that's weird.

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Speaker 2: That was weird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can find this child's age.

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Speaker 2: You can triangulate the age based on her posts in

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Speaker 2: her mother's groups.

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Speaker 3: OHP just needs to tell me if, like, the baby

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Speaker 2: Is it a Is it a talking baby?

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Speaker 3: Is it a yeah, a whay baby? Did it walk

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Speaker 2: A stocking baby.

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Speaker 3: Because if it's a walking baby, that's probably like, you know,

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Speaker 3: Designer Smile ninety one says, how long were you gone

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Speaker 3: the second time? If the kid is seven months then

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Speaker 3: it might not be yours. But she probably cheat on

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Speaker 3: for work right after Christmas in twenty twenty. We were

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Speaker 3: already hooking up for four months before that. If he's

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Speaker 3: seven months old, doing the math, because that's all I've

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Speaker 3: been double checking all night, It's possible she was lying

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Speaker 3: definitely pregnant then, or he's mine. Oh so okay, so

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Speaker 3: there's a possibility that it's not his kid, but she cheated.

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Speaker 2: Right with pregnant? Yeah, oh pregnant, cheating the switcher roo Yeah, cheating, Wow, pregnant.

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Speaker 3: Or someone else's. Who knows. But that's why I'm reaching out,

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Speaker 3: just to be sure. Small town mortician says, not the ahle.

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Speaker 3: But out of curiosity, what did your host think of

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Speaker 3: the whole thing?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: P says she was pretty confused too. I haven't really

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Speaker 3: talked to her directly about what happened, only when I

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Speaker 3: is an update one week later. Oh boy. So our

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Speaker 3: options right now are she cheated on her current partner

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Speaker 3: with op and OPI didn't know while she was pregnant.

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Speaker 3: A second option, this kid is Opie's. And third option,

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Speaker 3: this kid is just someone else's entirely.

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Speaker 2: Fourth option, they all become best friends. Yay.

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Speaker 4: Fifth option husband brothers. The new TV series.

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Speaker 2: Sixth sixth option, they got the baby in.

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Speaker 3: A row from a drone.

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Speaker 4: It was like the stork, like the store, like the store,

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Speaker 4: like the stork.

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Speaker 2: The storks have gone extinct. Now we have baby.

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Speaker 3: Option seven through ten to be decided later. Update one

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Speaker 3: week later, Dang, I don't know what to say, but

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Speaker 2: Well, I keep put there was no paternity test done,

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Speaker 3: No, Well I was wrong. I've looked at the results

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Speaker 3: How was the how that felt?

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Speaker 2: I don't like the reasoning of like you guys were

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Speaker 3: No, that was a ridiculous excuse.

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Speaker 3: It also just feels like everything that she's done has

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I don't know. That's it's nonsense.

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Speaker 4: The other guy may have had more money or she

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Speaker 2: I would assume you'd have to write. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense. As far as her boyfriend

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Speaker 3: sucks too, I'm sorry, he willingly well. He insisted that

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Speaker 2: Know, which it doesn't really sounds like. It didn't sound

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Speaker 3: And obviously seeing me pissed him off because he thought

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Speaker 3: I am, But my son is my kid. Yeah, f off, dude, Op,

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Speaker 3: he can just sue for custody. What is this guy

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Speaker 3: gonna do? Oh, I'm not like leave then none of these.

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Speaker 3: She told me not to worry about the relationship because

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Speaker 3: it's what I want to be for him. We already

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Speaker 3: on you for being present now that you're aware, Hopefully

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Speaker 3: her boyfriend can realize that you're not an enemy. Having

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Speaker 3: as long as everyone can put his well being before

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Speaker 3: things continue to improve. Op says, well, he kept to

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Speaker 3: Nice Button says, as awful as it is that you

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Speaker 3: I would have loved to be there when he was

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Speaker 3: the newborn milestones. At least he's still a baby right

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Speaker 3: now and he can grow up knowing I'm his dad.

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Speaker 3: He's not walking yet, so I will do everything to

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Speaker 3: be there seeing his first steps. Anika Quinn says, this

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Speaker 3: is great, good for you, though I do find it

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Speaker 3: a bit unsettling that she's willing to just drop someone

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Speaker 3: she's been dating since she was pregnant, who's the only

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Speaker 3: So you clearly didn't read the story. Because the boyfriend

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Speaker 3: Said either you don't let the birth father be involved

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Speaker 2: So we broke up with Sophia. That's just a master

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Speaker 2: negotiator at work, exactly. You don't get it.

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Speaker 3: I just don't.

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Speaker 2: He's just about his business.

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Speaker 3: Like there's a few ways to look at that, But

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Speaker 3: I were you. Opie says, no, not someone she isn't

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Speaker 3: romantically involved with. I'm the child's father. Well, she's mostly

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Speaker 3: also my fault for leaving without telling her he had

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Speaker 3: no right trying to keep my kid from me. But

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Speaker 3: y'all were like hooking up for a couple of months.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's not cool. Doesn't mean that you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm more concerned about anything, it'd be like

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Speaker 3: For seven months, I'd be a secret.

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Speaker 3: Not good. He shouldn't have gone involved if all it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if that probably wasn't the only

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Speaker 4: What do you mean like that you dropped him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that if he comes back, we're breaking up.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there was more to it.

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Speaker 3: In the end, it seems like that was his I mean,

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Speaker 3: it seems like his thought processes. Well, if I'm going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, could be that could be like, oh, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: And we've got another one coming right up.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm going to my best friend's wedding.

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 2: So I have a very good friend whom I've known

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Speaker 2: the dream couple. By the way, this comes from a

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Speaker 2: go to the r slash Okay storytime subburn and we

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Speaker 2: are here to give you good advice. Goofily, But we

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Speaker 2: I desperately do not want.

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Speaker 3: Well, good thing y'all at.

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Speaker 2: Dayton, Good thing y'all aren't making no babies.

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Speaker 3: There's no issue here.

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Speaker 2: But oh, We've always been very understanding of each other

439
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,560
Speaker 2: in this regard. She never gave me that you'll change

440
00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,439
Speaker 2: her mind speech, and I've always supported her in starting

441
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,200
Speaker 2: a family. One thing I'll mention is that I hate

442
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,399
Speaker 2: when people have a problem with me and wait months

443
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 2: before bringing it up, usually in an unrelated argument. This

444
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,479
Speaker 2: is something my manipulative sister in law used to do

445
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 2: before my brother went no contact with the entire family.

446
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,359
Speaker 2: This will come into play later. I just started my

447
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 2: first job, and in a matter of two weeks, I

448
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,640
Speaker 2: had to find an apartment and move by myself halfway

449
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 2: across the country. It's been both physically and mentally draining,

450
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,439
Speaker 2: but apart from being very tired, I'm taking the huge

451
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:11,360
Speaker 2: change unexpectedly well. This Monday, I received a cryptic message

452
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 2: from this friend with whom I've been discussing every detail

453
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 2: of the wedding so far. The dress, the venue, the invites,

454
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 2: the color scheme, you name it. She told me she

455
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 2: needs to meet me for five minutes in our hometown

456
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 2: and asked when I would be available. I told her

457
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 2: that I don't live there anymore since I started the

458
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 2: job a week prior, which she knew I was due

459
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 2: to start any day.

460
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 3: If we just need five minutes, they'll.

461
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 2: Call ring ring, Ring Ring.

462
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 3: It'd be kind of crazy to just meet in person

463
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 3: for five minutes.

464
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 2: Doesn't really seem like it needs to be an in

465
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 2: person scenario. We can do this over the digital airways.

466
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's good that you.

467
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 3: She If someone told me that they wanted to meet

468
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 3: to talk about something for five minutes, I'd be like,

469
00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 3: can we make this?

470
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 2: What if when do they come to you? Can we

471
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 2: google meet?

472
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 3: Well? Just I'm like can.

473
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 2: I don't want anyone in person.

474
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 3: Let's do let's do a little longer.

475
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 2: Well, She's like, what are you gonna tell me? You

476
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 2: can tell me bad news.

477
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't come to the wedding.

478
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

479
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 3: Let's fine.

480
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 2: Just give me the bad Just tell me. Don't make

481
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 2: me see you in person to tell me bad. I

482
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 2: know it's bad, now just tell me. I understand she

483
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: is her own life and she can't remember everything each

484
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 2: of her friends tells her. I said, I was sorry,

485
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 2: but I probably wouldn't be free for the next few

486
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 2: weeks because life is still crazy. I'm still pretty much

487
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 2: living out of my suitcase in the new city. I

488
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 2: don't even own a pillow or more than one towel

489
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 2: or set of sheets. Plus I'm going through a brutal

490
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 2: training at work. I expected this was about the invites,

491
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 2: but I wasn't sure because she wouldn't explicitly tell me

492
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,959
Speaker 2: why she needed to meet. I offered several alternatives. She

493
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 2: could wait a few weeks, send the invites by mail

494
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: or electronically, or give them to my parents who live

495
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 2: near her. Her response is, no, we couldn't.

496
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 4: Okay, the only way is if you're some kind of

497
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 4: spy and this is a.

498
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 3: Life or death yeah, that you can't that you have

499
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 3: to meet in person because someone's tracing your phone.

500
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if it was, you'd be toast already.

501
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they would have found you because you already had

502
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 3: this conversation over text.

503
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could have already said what you needed to say.

504
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: Say what you need to say.

505
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 3: Say what you need to say, Say what you need

506
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 3: to say.

507
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: The only thing she told me was she needed to

508
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 2: see me within the next two weeks. But even though

509
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: I asked two or three times, she wouldn't tell me

510
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: why it couldn't wait. I found out two days later

511
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: that the reason was she needed a definite guest list

512
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 2: I had already agreed to go about a year ago,

513
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 2: and that she wanted to give me a few mini

514
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 2: wedding cakes her mom had made. This is a tradition

515
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 2: where I come from that nobody really does anymore. I

516
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 2: again explained that right now was just about the worst

517
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 2: time she could have come to me with this, and

518
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 2: hoped she would understand my situation. Instead, what followed was

519
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 2: a two day long argument over text and voice messages,

520
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 2: where I tried to set back.

521
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness, not the voice memos.

522
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 2: Eighteen minute voice message, Sorry, it was in my pocket,

523
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: eighteen minute voice message. You could have just said the

524
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: thing you needed to say in the voice message. Come on, man.

525
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: She basically tried to manipulate me, saying things like you're

526
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 2: really hurting me or I need a break from you

527
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: and your behavior. I even offered to call her because

528
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: we weren't getting anywhere over text, but she said she

529
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: didn't have time and didn't want to call me anymore.

530
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: At the peak of the argument, she pulled out the

531
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 2: classic I feel like you're so bothered by me, and

532
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: I feel like you don't give a crap about my wedding.

533
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: By that point, I had said several times that I

534
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: was exhausted and not doing well mentally due to all

535
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: the stress. This was an added stress where she was

536
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: literally asking me to travel two hours both ways for

537
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: a five minute conversation and to give her a piece

538
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 2: of paper with info I already knew. Then she brought

539
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: up that I allegedly told her about eight months ago

540
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: that I planned on stopping talking to her once she

541
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: had kids.

542
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: Now she's lying. That would be pretty crazy. If OHPI said, yeah,

543
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 3: once you have kids, you're never seeing me again.

544
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's done. Once you have the kids.

545
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 4: I'm out.

546
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 3: I'm out.

547
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: I'm allergic.

548
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: You could talk to them, allergic to children.

549
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: I'm allergic to children. I can't talk to you. You've

550
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: got kids and I'm allergic to them.

551
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 3: How long is this gonna go on?

552
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: That just that?

553
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 4: Wait till you hear the chorus?

554
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: No no.

555
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: Back then, I mentioned I was scared we'd grow apart

556
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 2: due to the living different lifestyles, because I know many

557
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 2: child free people who lost friends that way. I said,

558
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: I remember that conversation very differently, but I can't be

559
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: completely sure. Yeah, I have a feeling that that is

560
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 2: how that conversation went. You're like, oh, I'm afraid to

561
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: lose you when you have kids.

562
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, And she heard, I'm never talking to you again

563
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 3: once you have kids, and now hate you forever. Puttuy

564
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 3: and Pi said, I don't. I don't quite remember it.

565
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: How you're remembering it.

566
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 2: Oh, you're remembering the exactly opposite of me. No cool.

567
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 2: I asked her that next time she has a problem,

568
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: to let me know sooner so we could deal with

569
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: it right then and not wait for an argument. At

570
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: that time, I wanted to tell her to go her

571
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: self because unpleasant memories of my brother and his wife

572
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: came back. But I think I handled it well. Yeah, yourself.

573
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 2: You would be wrong for memories of someone else that

574
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: you're dealing with emotions about letting you Yeah, I don't

575
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: know that. That feels like it would be misdirected.

576
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 3: To tell them to go f themselves.

577
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like now I'm thinking of something. Yeah,

578
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 2: it's like no, yeah, but you did didn't, so you're fine.

579
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: Her response was that I was being condescending and treating

580
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: her like a child, which was hurting her real bad.

581
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 3: She oh, P, I mean, uh, you should tell your

582
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 3: friend that if she were a child, if you were

583
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 3: treating her like a child, then you wouldn't be talking

584
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 3: to her.

585
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: I don't talk to kids. I'm allergic with one l.

586
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: She repeated that I didn't care about her at all

587
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: and that she felt I was bothered by her wedding.

588
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: I literally went out of my way to be supportive

589
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: in the past, even going to dress shopping with her

590
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: instead of studying for finals during my Masters. After her

591
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 2: aforementioned break from my behavior, I reached out one more

592
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 2: time and calmly said that what she said triggered me,

593
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: and that I was trying to set boundaries, for which

594
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: I felt punished. She more calmly said that she wasn't

595
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: sure she wanted me at the wedding anymore, to which

596
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: I said I wasn't sure I wanted to go either.

597
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: The decision was ultimately hers. What really got me was

598
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 2: that this whole argument was caused by the fact that

599
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: all her other friends were literally jumping for joy when

600
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: she gave them invites, which I didn't do. She's known

601
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: me for years. I'm Eastern European. My family does not

602
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: give a f about birthdays or holidays. Weddings are just

603
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 2: family get togethers where we catch up on gossip and

604
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: drink ourselves under the table. I didn't want to give

605
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: a fake reaction. I literally went to another friend's wedding

606
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: as her maid of honor, and she asked me I hope.

607
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: You know I want you as my maid of honor.

608
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: I said, sure, I can do that. She said great,

609
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: And that was that. I can be happy for my friend,

610
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to give her a Hollywood level

611
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: performance just so she doesn't get offended.

612
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: Now I'm wondering how you responded to that when here's

613
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: what I'll say.

614
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: If she already told you at a different wedding, you're

615
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: going to be my maid of honor, and you went, okay,

616
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: you're already invited getting an invite to the wedding, You're like, Okay,

617
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: knew that was going to happen. It's how exciting for you? Yeah,

618
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: knew that was going to happen. Though I knew I

619
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: was going to your wedding, you told me I was

620
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: going to be your maid of honor. Mm I told

621
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: her to take a week to discuss this with her

622
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: fiance and let me know if she wanted me to

623
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: come or not. It is her wedding, after all. The

624
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 2: more I think about it, the less I feel like going.

625
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: If she went this bat crap over the invites, I

626
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: can't imagine what's next, and I already feel anxious. I

627
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: won't cheer loud enough or smile bright enough for her taste.

628
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to be that friend who drops her

629
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: just before her wedding. And despite all this, I do

630
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: still care about her, but this feels like nothing I

631
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: do will be good enough. I worry she'll tell the

632
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: rest of her friends her side of the story and

633
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: I'll be the black sheep at the wedding. My fiance

634
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: won't be coming with me, and the only other person

635
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 2: I'll know there is her mom. I discussed this with

636
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: my mom, fiance, and three close friends, two of whom

637
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: don't know her, and one who dropped her years ago

638
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: for similar reasons. All of them basically told me she

639
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: was being extremely manipulative and that I should definitely drop her.

640
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: I think it might be best to let this one go,

641
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: but I wondered if I should at least go to

642
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: the wedding to show her that I really did care

643
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: before ending the friendship. And there is an update, but.

644
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: Nina Nelson is kind of saying what I was thinking. Says,

645
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: perhaps so Pa is a little too cold, but her

646
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: friend should already know that and not expect something different. Yeah,

647
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: I mean it does seem like your action was personally

648
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: If my friend came to me and was like, here's like,

649
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: here's the wedding in my ear to the main of water.

650
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: I'm so excited. I'd be like, oh my god, like

651
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: thank you this, I'm so excited for you. I don't

652
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: even need to be like ah, you could just be

653
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: like I'm so excited.

654
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: But like that, I think that might have been what

655
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: she did. She said that she specifically said because she

656
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: did not jump for joy. But I mean, like I'm

657
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: imagining like, like yay, like that because you didn't do.

658
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: That well the way that Ope said it, it just sounded

659
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: like she was just and because she said I'm Eastern European,

660
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: we don't give a big reaction. It just sounded she

661
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: was like okay, or like that's exciting. And I thought,

662
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: but the thing is, that would be kind of messed

663
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: up had she not, like if she had never met

664
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 3: you before it never.

665
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: Met, but she did not know. Yeah, you were told

666
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: long ago that you would be a part of the wedding,

667
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: so yeah, duh, of course you're gonna be going yeah.

668
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: And I think we could take into account that this

669
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: is written after all of this has happened, so it's like, yeah,

670
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: the the sub like the what's it called English major,

671
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. Subtext, subtext, the sub the sub the tone,

672
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: the tone, the sub to tone, tonality, sub I don't know.

673
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: It's written just.

674
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: Like ah, yeah, Well it just feels like, oh, he's

675
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: already like I'm fed up with his friend, so who

676
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: cares about her wedding and she reminds me of my

677
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: sister in law. Yeah, just feels like you guys are

678
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: both kind of like I think we both need to

679
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: take a step back and maybe maybe just reach out

680
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: at some point because this is an important friend, say like, hey,

681
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: really didn't mean for you to read you know anything

682
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 3: that I said is not excited, was very excited to

683
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: go to your wedding. Just dealing with a lot and

684
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 3: leave it with that, and then just don't stop responding

685
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: to all of her voicemails.

686
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, just in the midst of like moving cities. Let's

687
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: get into the update.

688
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: Hey it's Sam. We'll get back to the stories, but

689
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

690
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: Thanks y'all for your insights and suggestions. I've decided I'm

691
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: gonna let this friend go. I'll text her by the

692
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: end of the week tell her I've thought about this

693
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: and decided it's best for both of us. If I

694
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: don't go, I'll add well wishes for the wedding, their

695
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 2: home and family planning, and to say hi to your

696
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: fiance for me since I consider him a good friend.

697
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm like, I am wondering how good of friends

698
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: you guys are because it seems like a lot of

699
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: a lot. Maybe she it seems like she's stressed about

700
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: her wedding, You're stressed about everything that's going on in

701
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: your life, and you both let that stress kind of

702
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: overwhelm you and lashed out at each other. That's what

703
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: it seems like to me.

704
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Op's been building up the over it

705
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: factor for a while. Yeah, you know. And they alluded

706
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: to this friend always being like, oh, there's always something

707
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: a lot of anxious, there's always something going on, and

708
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: we've I think we've all had friends like that or

709
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: sometimes it's just like when will it stop? It's just

710
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: always something.

711
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: No, I know, I know people who are like just

712
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: always have something negative exactly in their life. I'm like,

713
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: is does anything good happen? But did just see a

714
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: ladybug today?

715
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: Not like yeah, yeah, my you know, I don't know,

716
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: not stuff out of their control. It's when people take

717
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: stuff that's totally within the realm of control, just like

718
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: reach out your hand and do something manipulate your environment.

719
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like this relationship was kind of headened

720
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: on this track.

721
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: Well, we have a final update here. Update two. I

722
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: got a message from her on Wednesday. She sent me

723
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: a questionnaire asking me to fill it out, saying, if

724
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: you want to go fill this out. Thanks. No greeting,

725
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: no apology, no invitation. As I mentioned several times, I

726
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: just texted her today saying I won't be coming. I

727
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: kept it civil, wished her lots of love and good health,

728
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: and said to hi to her fiance. I expect no

729
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: response and can't read any messages from her anymore. If

730
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: she tries to pester me again, I'll block her. For

731
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: those who think I was too nice, believe me, I

732
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: love proving people wrong. I did that since she kept

733
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: insisting I didn't care about her wedding or happiness. Update three.

734
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: I met her in my home city over the weekend.

735
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: Oh boy, finally gonna have that five minute conversation. Hmmm,

736
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: She's just gonna meet up with you and She's just like,

737
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've just been asking anyone who I

738
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: can find. My computer's been running slow. Come on, dude,

739
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: come on, that was for you.

740
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 4: Whatever that was for you, that was a delicious comment.

741
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: She saw me, her eyes went wide and she looked

742
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: at the ground, pretending like I wasn't there. Hikes. She

743
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: surprised me today by'm responding to my message saying she

744
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: was deeply saddened by my decision but would respect it

745
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: and wish me the best. I still don't regret my

746
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: decision and feel so much better mentally since I told

747
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: her I'm not coming.

748
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: She could have had that five minute conversation with you

749
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: there and then instead of doing it, she was like, not,

750
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna wait until I get back home and text her.

751
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 3: So weird.

752
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: I didn't really like any of that. No, I don't know.

753
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: I don't know how I feel. I'm not qualified enough

754
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: to know how I feel.

755
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel like it's a little bit like you

756
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: guys are both to blame for this friendship falling apart.

757
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, but I would understand if

758
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: you have a friend, your friend's doing this wedding thing

759
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: and then She's like, I feel like you don't even

760
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: like my wedding or me and you don't even care

761
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. And it's like I've moved. I

762
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: moved two hours away to a city you have to

763
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: know a furniture. I don't even have pillows. I'm trying

764
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: to get my work sorted out, and you're over here

765
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: just like trying to tell me I'm making you anxious.

766
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: I'm anxious, but we've got.

767
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 3: Another story, so you don't have to be anxious about that.

768
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 2: That's right, wooie.

769
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: My friends gas lit me for months, so I quit

770
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 3: our viral content group.

771
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: What are they gonna do?

772
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 3: And this comes directly from the r slash Okay Storytime

773
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: subren it blah Dakota blah blah. Is this you?

774
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 2: It's me. I'm not here right now.

775
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: Hi, guys. I watch your videos and listen to your

776
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: podcast all all the time. I'm in a pickle and

777
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: never thought I'd actually make one of these posts, but

778
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: I guess there's the first time for everything.

779
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: Welcome.

780
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: I twenty four female, was in a group content creator thing.

781
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: We all shared an account similar to everyone in Okay Storytime.

782
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: I can't go into specific details, because if I explained

783
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: the niche, it would be kind of obvious to pinpoint

784
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 3: specific people. By the way, this comes from maladaptive nightmare.

785
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: If you want to sumit your own stories, go to

786
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: the r slash Okay, storytime separate and we're here to

787
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: give good advice. Goofy, But we don't have all the answers.

788
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 3: We only know what we'd do, So let us know

789
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 3: what you would do in the comments, and Opie says.

790
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 3: When we originally started sharing this account, it was fun.

791
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: We were all friends just sharing what we love and

792
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: hanging out. We were also doing events for people within

793
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 3: this niche and wanted to show that there were people

794
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: in the community trying to bring new events and fun.

795
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: Last year, an event we hosted went super viral.

796
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

797
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: Although it was very stressful, we really enjoyed it and

798
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: it gave us the drive to share even more content

799
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: and do more for the community because we wouldn't have

800
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 3: had the outreach without them.

801
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 4: Who are these people?

802
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: Who are you?

803
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: V tubers?

804
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 3: However, around March things started to turn for the worse.

805
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: After the event, I thought things were going okay, but

806
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: I started to feel that the relationship we once had

807
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: was gradually becoming more distant and unstable. Over several months,

808
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: we started to get into more arguments and verbal confrontations

809
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 3: about how things were done, and our different opinions. Roles

810
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: and autonomy in the group became imbalanced. I think it's

811
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 3: super hard to if you go into kind of any

812
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: sort of content or theater, film, anything like that and

813
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 3: don't establish any sort of roles, like or hierarchy, not hierarchy,

814
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 3: but you know you don't have pre established roles. I

815
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: think it can be super hard to function in the

816
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: long term.

817
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: You have to immediately find the beta. Yeah, and you

818
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 2: say you you will be the You're not the mop

819
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 2: and bucket person.

820
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 3: Mop.

821
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: No, don't do that. It would just be cool.

822
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 3: Many of these discussions and arguments were because the biggest issue,

823
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 3: in my opinion, was that I felt like no one

824
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: would listen to me. To keep this post shorts, I

825
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: will give a few examples of how I felt ignored

826
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 3: or passed over. One example is when I posted a

827
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: video around the time of my birthday. I mentioned a

828
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 3: group of celebrities that I really like in the video

829
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: and dedicated it to them. The video went super viral

830
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: and many people in the niche were commenting and tagging

831
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: the celebrities. Around the same time the celebrities announced they

832
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 3: would be visiting my city. I made another video about

833
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: the same group and it went viral again. I was

834
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: elated and told the group about it. I suggested we

835
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: get in contact with their companies, showcase our videos, and

836
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: perhaps do a giveaway for official tickets to meet them.

837
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: You would think this would be a good idea, especially

838
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 3: with how viral my videos were. However, I was met

839
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: with silence the first time I suggested it. I asked again,

840
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: thinking maybe they hadn't seen it, and was told to

841
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 3: hold off because they were planning something related to these celebrities,

842
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: which I had no idea about. I thought it was

843
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: weird because we always tell each other our ideas before

844
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: starting any planning, so I brushed it off. Over the

845
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: course of five weeks, I kept asking if I could

846
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: get in contact with them while the videos were still viral.

847
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: I was either met with silence or told to hold off.

848
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: And at that point, you'd do it anyway. You just

849
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: do it, you just knew it.

850
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 4: Do it.

851
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 3: Then someone else in the group proposed the exact same

852
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: thing with a completely different group of celebrities and was

853
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: immediately given the green light. I asked about mine again.

854
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 3: As the date of the celebrities arrival got closer. I

855
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: was told no and to hold on because something was

856
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: being planned. Two weeks before the celebrities came, I asked

857
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 3: again and confessed I was hurt that someone else's idea

858
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: was approve mo mine wasn't. I still wasn't given a

859
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: legitimate reason why I couldn't do it. Eventually, they told

860
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 3: me they had dropped their plans some time ago and

861
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 3: forgot to tell me.

862
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: WHOA.

863
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: I'm sorry when was some time ago?

864
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're only operating in a time period of two weeks.

865
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: At that point, it was too late to contact the

866
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 3: companies and the videos weren't getting as much engagements. Another time,

867
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: I asked if we could have a meeting before summer.

868
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 3: Every time I asked, I was ignored. Weeks later, someone

869
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: else asked for the same thing, and magically everyone responded.

870
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 3: To keep this short, imagine incidents like this happening over

871
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: fifteen times in about six months. These were not the

872
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: first incidents, and they still haven't shown signs of acknowledging

873
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 3: that they hurt me. It really hurt to see people

874
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: who used to listen to me simply ignore me. I

875
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: told them multiple times that I was hurt, and all

876
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 3: I got was we're so busy we didn't see it,

877
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: or I'm sorry. It felt like empty words. I tried

878
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: communicating my feelings one more time, and someone suggested we

879
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 3: talk on a specific day and asked if people were

880
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 3: free on Sunday at six pm. Only one other person

881
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 3: side myself responded. By the time we tried to coordinate

882
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: the meeting, a new conversation about a concert took over.

883
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 3: I tried to re engage, and again I was ignored.

884
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 3: I felt exhausted and decided to leave the group and

885
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: the chat. There is a little bit left to this story.

886
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 3: Any final thoughts.

887
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: Bridgial Wings and Flo.

888
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 3: You already have proven to yourself that you were able

889
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 3: to make videos that go viral multiple times, it seems,

890
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 3: and that you have like the business sense continue doing

891
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 3: that and to make events happen that will help your

892
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: brand and everything. So I think take that, take that

893
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 3: knowledge and leave. If you don't feel like you're being

894
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: uplifted in this community, yeah, if.

895
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: You're just being froze, if you're being kept on the outside, No, No,

896
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: Sometimes all happen like in a group, like you know,

897
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what you guys are doing, but sometimes

898
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: it's like, clearly you were doing some stuff that was

899
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: really good. All it takes is like one person that

900
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: group to be like I'm jealous, I don't like and

901
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: I you want to do it good, and then like

902
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: it can just start to unravel. It seems like that

903
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: happen dynamic.

904
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: But there is a little bit left. After I left

905
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 3: All heck broke loose, they started messaging me privately asking

906
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 3: for me to talk to them and give them another chance,

907
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 3: but I really don't want to. It hurts to be

908
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 3: ignored by my friends, but I feel like they only

909
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: want me to stay because they don't want to lose

910
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: the account we have, not because they want to be

911
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: better friends. It feels weird. Sorry for the vagueness and

912
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: rushed feelings. I'm about to get on a call with them.

913
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: We'll update later, but I'm not sure if I even

914
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: want to continue being friends with people who ignore me

915
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: and brush over my feelings. So am I the ale

916
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: for leaving the business I had with my friends? And

917
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 3: am I wrong for feeling conflicted about keeping the friendship

918
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 3: and that is the end of the story. I feel

919
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: like if you're not seeing I mean, regardless of whether

920
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 3: or not you had the business, just in irregular friendship.

921
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 3: If you have time and time again brought up how

922
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 3: you feel and have been ignored, those aren't friends that

923
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: are supporting you. Doesn't seem like they're good friends. And

924
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 3: especially when you're trying to work together, you need to

925
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 3: all be listening to each other or the business doesn't work.

926
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: Always be listening.

927
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

928
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: I don't think you're nail. I don't think you're wrong

929
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: for feeling conflicted. They're your friends. Yeah, times, it's hard

930
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: to do business with your friends.

931
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 3: Ain't that the truth?

932
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: You know?

933
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: Good luck o ped. I think if you don't want

934
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: to be part of this group and you feel like

935
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 3: you can do better on your own, I think follow

936
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: that instinct.

937
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: Go spread your wei.

938
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: But that's the end of that story. And we've got

939
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: some comments from a previous video.

940
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 2: Oh boy, hey, Jean og host.

941
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories, but a quick,

942
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: free minute break of ads from our sponsors.

943
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 2: All right, These comments are from the video I'm Suspicious

944
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 2: of my Boyfriend's Hot Professor, which was posted on September

945
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: second of this year, teod Ares OPI's boyfriend became friends

946
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: with his young professor, who shares his hobby. The professor

947
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 2: joined group trips, shared in Airbnb, and texted weekly. Op

948
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: felt suspicious and uncomfortable about their closeness. Then the professor

949
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 2: found a Reddit post about herself and decided to set

950
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 2: the record straight with receipts. I mean, the boyfriend invited

951
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: her to everything, she was never actually drunk, and op

952
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: completely ignored her at dinner. But her version of events

953
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 2: raises even more questions about what really happened. If you're

954
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: curious to know the full story, you can go watch

955
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 2: the full video.

956
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 3: I remember this story.

957
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: I do too.

958
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: I think it was like it seemed like the original

959
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 3: Ope skewed a lot of things. Yes, according to the professor,

960
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 3: because I don't think. I think she said that she

961
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: was never his professor.

962
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: She was like an assistant professor.

963
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 3: Or like it's like never his professor.

964
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: She was like she only taught like one class per week,

965
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: was actually just an accountant and was just doing this

966
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: for like I don't know, to get the experience.

967
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 3: And my cat's name is Karen says. You've read the story.

968
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 4: Before right, you are Jimmy Bailey. He says, I found

969
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 4: the accountant side of the story completely. Sus Remember that

970
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 4: she is married and has reason to defend herself. The

971
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 4: boyfriend said she invited herself, and she says he invited her.

972
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 4: One of them is lying here and the one who

973
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 4: did other sus things is her. Her version of the

974
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: events doesn't match on the meeting either, Opie said she

975
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 4: greeted Bob warmly and didn't even acknowledge her. There is

976
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 4: no way to interpret a wave at and a high

977
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 4: to them both as warmly greeting one person while ignoring

978
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 4: the other, because if you only made eye contact with one,

979
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: you only greeted one. Why would Bob have gotten mad

980
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 4: at the accountant if she made eye contact with and

981
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 4: greeting them both? Sus sus us.

982
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: I mean someone's lying and we just can't know who.

983
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 2: Someone's lying.

984
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: Someone's a lying.

985
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: Something is rotten in this state, Damn.

986
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 4: Cole says, I'm just an adjunct professor, and that's a shit.

987
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 4: A key professional lined across doesn't matter if he's a

988
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 4: former student graduate. Her colleagues would have a few questions

989
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 4: that they found out they were hanging out Yeah, it.

990
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: Would raise eyebrows for sure.

991
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 4: World Domination ninety two says, as someone who's been on

992
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 4: the other side of being misinterpreted, I wish I heard

993
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 4: it from the person is said. I heard it years

994
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: later from the third party. It's just like this situation.

995
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 4: If op and ex professor talked at all, this loss

996
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 4: and translation would have been cleared. Instead. I think op

997
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 4: already had thought bad of her and just continued to

998
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 4: find faults.

999
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have we have both sides. People seeing

1000
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: both sides of the story got.

1001
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 2: A real ambiguous story.

1002
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 4: Yep, and Dwhy Smith eleven twenty three says Opie is

1003
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 4: insecure as a basis this whole story. No one did

1004
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 4: anything wrong in the story except the accountant to be

1005
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 4: friendly to someone who she knows doesn't like her without

1006
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 4: reason is nonsense. I think op just kept using the

1007
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 4: professor thing to try and support her insecurity by using

1008
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 4: the power dynamics. However, we all know she's an accountant,

1009
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 4: not a professor. All the accountant did was hang out

1010
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 4: with a group of friends, never alone with Opie's boyfriend,

1011
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 4: So it's nothing but insecurities. Bob literally was just existing

1012
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 4: trying to hang out with friends, all these expos and

1013
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 4: stuff they went to was with a group, so why

1014
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: should it be suspicious he invites her to join the party.

1015
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: Opie needs to fix her insecurities, plain and simple.

1016
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1017
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 4: Also, the boyfriend shouldn't have been I guess he was like,

1018
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 4: you know, friendly, But I don't know there's a line there.

1019
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 4: I think I think the boyfriend Eddie egged onto.

1020
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: Men stop talking to women that aren't your girlfriends.

1021
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: I don't think that. I don't think he did anything.

1022
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: I think he went out with his friends and she

1023
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: was one of his friends.

1024
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: Shouldn't be she's not your girlfriend.

1025
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: Can't be friends with anybody who's not your girlfriend.

1026
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: Friends with anyone who's not your girlfriend or isn't your

1027
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 2: girlfriend's friend.

1028
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 4: Exactly.

1029
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: The only people, the only people you can be friends with.

1030
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 3: Are your girl, your girlfriend, and your friend your friend.

1031
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: And even then it's like, why do you need more than.

1032
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 3: Just your girlfriend, but your girlfriend needs her friend.

1033
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: That was a good story. I liked that story. Y'all

1034
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: should go watch it.

1035
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: Go watch that story.

1036
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: And also, Kean doesn't know how to do the YMCA.

1037
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I saw him in the background.

1038
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: That's the end of the story, folks, Kean doesn't know

1039
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: how to do the uy mc A and if you

1040
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 3: love us, make sure to subscribe.

1041
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,879
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