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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Jonas is Sam your og Okay Storytime

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Speaker 1: podcast hosts. We have some great stories coming up, but.

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Speaker 2: Before that, we have a quick two minute break from

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Speaker 2: the sponsors that keep the show alive. I crossed paths

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Speaker 2: with my ex fiance's mistress after twelve years.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling her new husband.

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Speaker 3: Everything, everything, everything, everything.

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Speaker 2: Twelve years ago, I thirty six female, was engaged and

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Speaker 2: about to get married to Carl with a K. Everything

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Speaker 2: in my life seemed perfect until I found out my

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Speaker 2: fiance was having an affair with a new hire at

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Speaker 2: his job called Camilla, twenties female. Both of them were

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Speaker 2: in serious relationships. By the way, this comes from user

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Speaker 2: throwaway fiance cheat on the r slash Okay Storytime suburd.

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Speaker 2: So I broke off the engagement with Carl as soon

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Speaker 2: as I found out and told Camilla's boyfriend about the cheating.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: The end someone who knows what to do the end.

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Speaker 3: Crazy, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was hard for me, but I moved on

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Speaker 2: after months of therapy and the help of my friends

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Speaker 2: and family. Now I'm married to Henry forty one male,

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Speaker 2: my amazing husband and father of our four children nine, seven, four.

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Speaker 1: And four respectively. Two boys, two girls. Wow, congratulations.

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Speaker 2: I moved to the other side of the country years

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Speaker 2: ago and never thought about my ex fiance or the

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Speaker 2: cheating again. My husband works in a law firm. Last

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Speaker 2: year they hired a new lawyer, Daniel thirty four male,

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Speaker 2: who moved with his family to live in our area.

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Speaker 2: He and my husband became very good friends, as they

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Speaker 2: have similar interests and personalities. Henry asked me to invite

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Speaker 2: Daniel's family to our house to help adjust.

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Speaker 1: To the new city and jobs.

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Speaker 2: When Daniel came to my house for a playdate for

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Speaker 2: our kids, his kids are four male and two females,

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Speaker 2: he introduced us to his wife, Cam, thirty female. Well,

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Speaker 2: Cam was come Milla. I really didn't know how to

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Speaker 2: react when I recognized her. I had the impression that

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Speaker 2: she also recognized me. Our husbands didn't un understand why

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Speaker 2: everything seemed so tense, and we pretended to not know

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Speaker 2: each other and made fail attempts at small talk. After

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Speaker 2: an hour, Cam made up an excuse and her family left.

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Speaker 2: Henry noticed my behavior and asked me what was happening.

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Speaker 2: I told him everything he already knew about my past

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Speaker 2: with Carl and the affair. Later that day, I received

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Speaker 2: a text from Camilla begging me not to tell Daniel

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Speaker 2: about our past wow parking up the wrong tree Camilla

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Speaker 2: h I read the message and didn't reply, but I

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Speaker 2: decided to not say anything and buying my own business.

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Speaker 1: This was not my problem anymore.

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Speaker 2: After a week of silence, Daniel shows up at our

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Speaker 2: doorstep looking very agitated. He talked to my husband alone,

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Speaker 2: and afterwards, Henry asked me to tell Daniel my version

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Speaker 2: of everything. Like my husband, Daniel realized something weird happened

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Speaker 2: on our meeting and spent the week trying to get

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Speaker 2: answers from his wife. She refused to tell him what happened,

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Speaker 2: and then tried to say I was her ex boyfriend's

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Speaker 1: Were so teped.

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Speaker 3: What do people like to lie? Why do people dig

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Speaker 3: these deep dark lies? That is a desperate one too, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that is like like if I tell him this lie,

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Speaker 3: they won't find out. They'll never go to the person

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Speaker 3: with the truth. They'll never do that, They'll just listen

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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes a hard truth is better than an ugly lie.

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Speaker 2: I mean more often than not, just all ugly.

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Speaker 1: Are you proud of me? I? Made that up on

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Speaker 3: I'm always proud of you.

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Speaker 1: A hard truths better than an ugly lie.

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Speaker 2: Baby boy, Daniel didn't buy this story and they had

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Speaker 2: a massive fight about it. After the fight, he realized

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Speaker 2: I was the one that could tell him the truth,

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Speaker 2: and I did tell him everything after he asked. I

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Speaker 2: even showed him the text message Camilla sent me. I

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Speaker 2: didn't feel the need to sugarcoat things since Camilla was

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Speaker 2: out there telling lies about me. Daniel was in complete

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Speaker 2: shock because cheating is a trigger for him. His father

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Speaker 2: cheated on his mom for years and left the family

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Speaker 2: for his mistress, which made him hate cheaters.

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Speaker 1: Camilla knew about this since their first date. You're literally

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Speaker 3: You deserve that.

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Speaker 1: You deserve this.

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Speaker 3: You deserve nothing, No, you deserve this.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Daniel left our house looking defeated, and in the same day,

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Speaker 2: I received a call from Camilla accusing me of being

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Speaker 1: She said I was trying to destroy her lie.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I was wrong for telling the truth,

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Speaker 2: but this happened last year, and I received calls and

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Speaker 2: random messages from people close to Camilla saying I'm an

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Speaker 2: a Hole for exposing Camilla's pass to her husband. Am

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Speaker 2: I the a hole news slash Camilla, your husband was

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Speaker 3: Hey, what goes around comes around, Yeah, and Camilla is

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Speaker 3: what goes around and comes around.

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Speaker 2: Still not taking responsibilities for our actions, I see, Camilla.

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Speaker 3: Ah you know it would have been all the better

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Speaker 3: if you had just told the truth and not put

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Speaker 2: Part of me can understand not telling saying that you

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Speaker 2: basically destroyed someone's marriage on your first date, because regardless

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Speaker 2: of people's past misdeeds, sometimes we all have to give

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Speaker 2: them the benefit of the doubt that they can change

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Speaker 1: But this person is clearly not doing that. This person

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Speaker 2: Doing that anyway. Here's some relevant comments. Commenter number one,

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Speaker 2: not the Ahole. You told the truth after she told lies?

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Speaker 2: Did she expect you to go along with what she

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Speaker 2: said so you could be the bad guy for as

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Speaker 2: long as your husband and Daniel are workmates? Opie said,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what she was thinking. I have no

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Speaker 2: reason to lie to cover her. Commenter two says, not

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Speaker 2: the Ale. You're the hero of this story. Actions have consequences.

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Speaker 2: You did nothing wrong and merely stated facts and truth

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Speaker 2: about what happened between Camilla and your ex fiance. It

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Speaker 2: would have been wrong for you to lie to Daniel,

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Speaker 2: as he deserved to know the truth to make an

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Speaker 2: informed end decision. If it were you, I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: would have wanted the same consideration as I know. I

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Speaker 2: definitely would have text Camilla sorry to hear about you

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Speaker 2: and Daniel, but hey, maybe you and Carl can get

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Speaker 2: something going again.

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Speaker 1: That would actually be a great petty text message. You

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Speaker 1: should do that, ohp he says.

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Speaker 2: Funny thing is, after our engagement broke off, she did

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Speaker 2: try to date Carl and he kicked her to the curter.

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Speaker 2: I heard this from mutual Friends. Commentary three says the

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Speaker 2: affair relationship never stands on its own legs once it

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Speaker 2: comes to light. It's much easier exciting to be sneaking

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Speaker 2: around versus the grind of a normal adult relationship. That

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Speaker 2: to do with her as a person. Op says, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that Carl and her didn't have much to

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Speaker 2: do after both of them stopped leeching off from their

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Speaker 2: loving partners. Camilla's X was a great guy. And how

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Speaker 2: did Camilla get Ope's ce phone number? Op says from

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Speaker 2: Daniel's phone, we have texted about setting up for the

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Speaker 2: playdate for our kids.

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Speaker 1: Henry gave him my number, coming or four says not

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Speaker 1: the a hole.

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Speaker 2: You literally tried to help her by not revealing her secret,

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Speaker 2: which is kinder than most people, because I know I

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Speaker 2: would have told her the second I see her face

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Speaker 2: in my house, you're not welcome here. But she had

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Speaker 2: the chance to be honest with her husband multiple times

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Speaker 2: on the first day, when he reveals his feelings about cheaters,

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Speaker 2: when he first asks, and then afterwards, but she still

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Speaker 2: kept lying, which means she hasn't grown or healed or improved.

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Speaker 2: So who she is as a person since she was

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Speaker 2: the mistress of your formal fiance, she's still that person.

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Speaker 2: I just hope Daniel's doing okay. Ohp says I would

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Speaker 2: never do a scene at my house, especially because deep down,

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Speaker 2: I'm very relieved that I didn't marry Carl, So exactly

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Speaker 2: what you said. Hey, you know what, I've been reading

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Speaker 2: a book called The Alchemist, and I'll just say this,

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Speaker 2: everything happens for a reason. I'm happy with Henry and

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Speaker 2: our children. Cammy is just a memory from the past.

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Speaker 2: Seeing her having marriage problems is not something I enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Up date, blah blah blah. First, this is not a

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Speaker 2: fake story. The only thing that's fake are the names.

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Speaker 2: I am not AI. Second, I don't think cheaters must

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Speaker 2: be punished forever.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's something a I would say, Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 3: I'm not AI, but that's illegal.

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Speaker 1: They're not allowed to say that. They're not allowed to

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Speaker 3: Okay, sorry, go back to reading oh Day.

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Speaker 2: First, this is not a fake story. The only thing

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Speaker 2: that's faked are the names. I am also not an

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Speaker 2: artificial intelligence. Second, I don't think cheaters must be punished forever,

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Speaker 3: People learn people if they maybe make mistakes, and people

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Speaker 3: can learn as long as they.

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Speaker 1: I think the keyword is punished forever.

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Speaker 2: It's like I don't think that you should ever have

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Speaker 2: the right or like where it's like, all right, enough

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Speaker 2: time has passed, Now you can come back. It's like

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Speaker 2: that's always going to be up to the person's was betrayed.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be their decision. But they don't need

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Speaker 2: to be pennant like very seldomly. What I say, a

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Speaker 2: lifetime of penance is what is owed for infidelity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that makes most of the time you work

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Speaker 2: While I would probably never want to be close friends

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Speaker 2: issues being civil with her. I don't think she deserves

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Speaker 2: number from Daniel's phone. I have a pretty uncommon last name,

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Speaker 2: and my name is not popular either. Daniel got my

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Speaker 2: number from me. Henry gave me his contact to set

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Speaker 2: up a dinner date to introduce our families. I texted

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Speaker 2: him we have already met sometimes on the office and

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Speaker 2: at my house when he came by with Henry. Daniel

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Speaker 2: texted me back about setting up our plans for the

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Speaker 1: And that's that.

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Speaker 2: My husband didn't give Camilla my number at the time

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Speaker 2: this all happened. My husband had seen her just once

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Speaker 2: while at the office with Daniel. The fact that Camilla

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Speaker 1: Her actions were, so.

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Speaker 2: I guess that was pretext. Here's the actual update. Daniel

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Speaker 2: and Camilla are not divorced. After leaving our house, Daniel

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Speaker 2: The harassment through calls and texts lasted over a month.

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Speaker 2: Henry was about to send a cease and desist when

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Speaker 2: he decided to talk to Daniel about this, and Daniel

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Speaker 2: My friend admitted his affair to me.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 2: He then said, Rachel confessed that she's frustrated with her

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Speaker 3: She's literally saying, just like you're rich, I want that.

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Speaker 2: She admits to not being physically attracted to him, like, okay,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so don't do that, hey, Hey, so don't do that.

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Speaker 3: She's literally telling you that I'm the worst person ever,

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Speaker 2: I asked what Brenda thought of all this. He said

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Speaker 3: I have dumbfounded right now. I'm sorry, how dumb can

442
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Speaker 3: you be? This guy's This guy's an idiot on both

443
00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,080
Speaker 3: ends of him and Rachel. Rachel's like, I see this,

444
00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,760
Speaker 3: this is to go in my way, in my fav Rachel's.

445
00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,840
Speaker 2: A genius because she found she found the stupidest rich

446
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:06,520
Speaker 2: guy on earth.

447
00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,760
Speaker 3: Apparently she really is like, leave everything you love and

448
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,600
Speaker 3: have right now and you'll have me.

449
00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 1: For him to even consider it is like I would be.

450
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 3: I'm do for him to even consider her as a friend. Now,

451
00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,120
Speaker 3: I was like a friend. A friend would never say

452
00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 3: that to anybody. Hey, I love you for your money.

453
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,439
Speaker 3: That's it money please, that's crazy money. Please.

454
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,960
Speaker 2: So he asked my opinion, and I told him that

455
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 2: he has two options. Either leave Brenda or completely break

456
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 2: off all contact with Rachel and focus on his marriage.

457
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,919
Speaker 2: But since he asked, in my opinion, Brenda needed to know,

458
00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,280
Speaker 2: especially since she considered Rachel a friend, and knowing that

459
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,800
Speaker 2: Rachel wants to screw over Brenda and Leah seriously typing

460
00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,399
Speaker 2: this disgusts me. After the call ANDed, I told Michael

461
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,359
Speaker 2: about it. He was as shocked as I was, but

462
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,400
Speaker 2: asked what I was going to do. I just sat

463
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,639
Speaker 2: there trying to digest what I had heard. Dave, Brenda,

464
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,879
Speaker 2: and Leo went on their vacation during this time, we

465
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 2: didn't communicate. When he got back, he told me that

466
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,919
Speaker 2: he had cut Rachel, but refused to tell Brenda about it. Okay, fine, whatever.

467
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,120
Speaker 2: I don't agree with his action to not tell her,

468
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 2: but it's not my life, not my relationship. I actually

469
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 2: fully agree with that.

470
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 3: Well, my monkey's not my circuit.

471
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 1: I fully agree with that. He asked for advice, and

472
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:13,679
Speaker 1: I gave it.

473
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 2: I told him that in my eyes, he had betrayed

474
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Speaker 2: his wife, whether physically or not, and I still felt

475
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,120
Speaker 2: that Brenda deserve to know, which is true. Almost immediately,

476
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 2: I felt myself pulling away from Dave, my image of

477
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,880
Speaker 2: him was damaged. When I interact with Brenda online for work.

478
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 2: I'm professional and friendly, but it's painful keeping this secret. However,

479
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,399
Speaker 2: as time passed, I began to think that perhaps this

480
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 2: was over. Dave had just made a stupid mistake and

481
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 2: was just thinking about what could be. He didn't actually

482
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,160
Speaker 2: leave her right, and more importantly, he cut Rachel out.

483
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,479
Speaker 2: Dave and I began talking a bit more. I actually

484
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 2: thought maybe things could go back to the way they

485
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 2: were since there was no actual physical cheating. Maybe it's

486
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 2: best that Brenda doesn't know for her own mental health

487
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 2: and happiness. Maybe we can move past this. So many

488
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 2: thoughts going through my mind, so many ways of rationalizing this.

489
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 2: The men till gymnastics were Olympic level impressive. Then about

490
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 2: a month ago, he drops the bombshell. He tells me

491
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 2: that Rachel and he are talking again.

492
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 3: Guy's the biggest dummy in the world.

493
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 2: This is when you now tell the wife. Now now

494
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: it's almost it's an obligation at this point, either you

495
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 2: tell her or I tell her. If you really are

496
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 2: that close to these people, like you know, there is

497
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: something to be said about, like not meddling in other

498
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 2: people's business, even if you feel.

499
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 1: But if you're close.

500
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Speaker 2: With them, and you have a relationship with Brenda even

501
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 2: in a work capacity as well, it's like this is

502
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 2: going to start impacting your life outside of this.

503
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 3: Conversation already impacting Opie as is.

504
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it's time, she allegedly. Rachel allegedly begged

505
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 2: him for forgiveness and cried that she's going through another

506
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 2: horrible braankap and she needs change, friendship or else. She

507
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 2: doesn't know what she might do. Weaponizing this person is terrible.

508
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: He said, He's going to keep her at arm's leg,

509
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 2: but she needs him. He will just be there for

510
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: her a little bit, but it won't be like it

511
00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 2: was before. Oh holy night to my shit, you're in

512
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: love that word. As the week's pass, he begins to

513
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 2: mention her more and more. I tell him I don't

514
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: want to hear about her, and when he keeps going,

515
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 2: I finally snap and tell him not to mention her

516
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 2: to me at all. Also really quick to I almost

517
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: didn't address this. Rachel doesn't need to only lean on him.

518
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 2: Rachel can have other people in her life besides the

519
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 2: married man with a child who she expressed she wanted

520
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 2: to run away with But do.

521
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 3: You realize how she doesn't want to do that?

522
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I realized that they might be perfect for

523
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: each other because they're clearly both scumbags.

524
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 1: That's what I'll say.

525
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 2: Rachel is the worst person. There's no way Dave is

526
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 2: this stupid. Dave knows what he's doing. He's not this stupid.

527
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 2: He knows what he's doing, and he still wants to

528
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 2: do it. He just sounds like a big dumb So

529
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: let the two scumbags be two scumbags in a pod,

530
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: and I hope the wife gets more than half of

531
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: his assets. So I tell him I don't want to

532
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 2: hear about her, and when he keeps going, I finally

533
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 2: snap and tell him not to mention her to me

534
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: at all. I'm so pissed that he's talking to her

535
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 2: again and that he doesn't care about how me Knowing

536
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 2: this is put more guilt and strain.

537
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: In my mind, especially when I have to interact with

538
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: his wife.

539
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,959
Speaker 2: It's completely unfair that he told me about his situationship

540
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: with Rachel, knowing that I consider Brenda a friend and

541
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: that we work together every day.

542
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 1: I've begged him to tell Brenda about it.

543
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: She has the right to decide if she wants to stay,

544
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 2: and most of all, that he is actively still friends

545
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 2: with a woman who wishes to hurt and put hain

546
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: on his wife and a little girl.

547
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: How does this creature sleep at night?

548
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 2: Dave still talks about planning vacations together with Michael and I,

549
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: but I don't even respond. Honestly, I don't see how

550
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: I could sit at dinner with them and keep quiet,

551
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 2: especially if Rachel were to get brought up in conversation,

552
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: and especially if wine is involved.

553
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: And let's be honest, there will be why there will

554
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: be one.

555
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 2: I have one of those faces that speaks my mind

556
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 2: without saying a word, which is why I do better

557
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 2: working remote versus client facing. I dread the day when

558
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: and if either Dave or Brenda say that Rachel's coming

559
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: to visit them again. I can pretend it won't happen,

560
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 2: but let's be honest, Dave's a complete moron who managed

561
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 2: to somehow I'll miraculously prevent his marriage from going up

562
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 2: in flames, only to soak himself.

563
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 1: In gasoline and open the door to the.

564
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 2: Walking, talking, gorgeous yet shallow lit match Reddit, Please help me.

565
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 2: I want to cut him out completely. Because I'm so

566
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: disgusted by his actions. But I know Brenda will be

567
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: upset and drill me about it, especially since they've been

568
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 2: planning a trip to Europe for next year and wanting

569
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: us to come. Should I just tell her that we

570
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: had a falling out? Should I find a way to

571
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: hint Brenda not to trust Rachel. I didn't even want

572
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 2: to know any of this, and I'm so pissed that

573
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 2: he dumped this on me. We were friends, but not

574
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: that type of friend. As for Brenda, I would want

575
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: to know if I were friends with and playing host

576
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: to a girl who wanted to steal my husband and

577
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 2: the father of my child. But I'm also concerned about

578
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 2: my job and my livelihood. She's been with the company

579
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: over ten years and I've only been there a year.

580
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 2: I've kept this secret from her for so long. If

581
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: I say something, could it affect my employment? Should I

582
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: just pull away from them and, when asked, make some

583
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 2: lame excuse like I'm too busy and we do have

584
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: an update?

585
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 1: Let's just read this edit first? Well, how much do

586
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: we have left before? Okay?

587
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: Really quick, before we give let's not give our full thoughts. Okay,

588
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: but I'm going to say that you should one hundred

589
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: percent tell Brenda.

590
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 3: No, we're on the same boat.

591
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 2: And like, I don't think you need to worry about

592
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: your job. I think you just need to tell her

593
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: and explain. And I think if anything, she's gonna appreciate

594
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: you for it more than anything.

595
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 3: No, one hundred percent, I think if you tell her

596
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 3: flat out everything, Like, hey, he came to me about

597
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 3: this and I told him, don't do it, and I

598
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: thought they stopped. And here's the timeline again where he's

599
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 3: bringing it up. I'm like, I like, I gave him

600
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: the benefit of the doubt. No means no, I feel

601
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: bad for you. I feel bad all about this. Yep,

602
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: he is being a dumb dumb That's all you need

603
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 3: to do.

604
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: It's very easy. You gotta let her know, you gotta

605
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: let her you have.

606
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 3: No flaws, Like, there's no like faults or flaws here

607
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 3: in your your case.

608
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: So EDIT wanted to clarify a few things. When I

609
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: say friend, I mean we're more than mere acquaintances. But

610
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: it's not like we're besties. I've always been closer to

611
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: Dave than Brenda strictly because he's the one who I

612
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: game with. However, Dave and I never had deep conversations

613
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: before he unloaded this secret on me. We talked about

614
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter going to festivals

615
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: and eventually us joining them on vacations, which we haven't done,

616
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 2: but money was too tight for us to join them

617
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 2: before Michel's promotion and before I was given this job opportunity, so.

618
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: Vacations were something for the future.

619
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: You've only ever met once in person for the promotion

620
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 2: weekend last summer, but have continuously made plans to visit

621
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: or meet up in the city. Due to funds and

622
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: other hiccups, the plans always fell through. Our friendship was

623
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: something that we had built to get away from the

624
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: stress of life, lighthearted and meant to be fun. As

625
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: for Brenda, she recommended me for the position at her

626
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 2: work because I had to earn the position. She isn't

627
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: my boss, but she definitely has seniority. Before the conversation

628
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: with Dave, I had high hopes for Brenda and I

629
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: becoming closer and all of us being good friends down

630
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: the road. Unfortunately, since this happened last year, I've kept

631
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 2: my distance and didn't nurture my relationship with Brenda. But

632
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: you can nurture your relationship with us every weekday at

633
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: three PMPST where we're go live on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok,

634
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: and Twitch. All you gotta do is tap our profile

635
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: and you're in.

636
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 3: Hey, we might even be live right now. But before

637
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: you go check that out, there's a little bit left

638
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 3: to the story and we really want to make sure

639
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: that Brenda does find out. Yeah, I mean, what's your

640
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: what's your final takeaway here?

641
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: Like it's just gotten to the it's past the point

642
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 2: of no return where it's like it'd be different if

643
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: you could like step away from this. And it's just

644
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 2: in the context of like you sometimes play video games

645
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: with this.

646
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: Person, but you literally work with his wife.

647
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, So now the guilt and like the it just

648
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 2: keeps despair snowball, and it's and he's put it on

649
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: your shoulders, and it's like at the end of the day,

650
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: it's it's it's his fault that this would be happening

651
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: because he's the one talking to Rachel.

652
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: You're not the bad guy here, it's.

653
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 3: Him, no, Yeah, and and he he he threw it

654
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 3: at you without.

655
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: You even know if your husband was doing this or

656
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: your partner was doing this, would you want someone to

657
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: tell you?

658
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 3: I said yes.

659
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 2: I think that's all that answers the question all by

660
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: itself right there, So I have no roof. Oh, the

661
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: conversation where he told me everything was over the phone

662
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: and I didn't record it. Plus I managed two party states,

663
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 2: so I think I could get in trouble for that.

664
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Speaker 2: If I tell Brenda, it would be my word against his,

665
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: and if she goes to him, he could deny everything

666
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: or even try to spin it against me.

667
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: And this is where I worry. It could affect my job.

668
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: My job is my biggest concern at this point.

669
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Speaker 2: I do not want to lose my job. I don't

670
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: want my job to become awkward. I would love to

671
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 2: be able to give Brenda heads up about the situation,

672
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 2: but also I can't afford to lose my job. I

673
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: cannot stress this enough. If I knew I could warn

674
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: her without harming my own situation, I would may sound

675
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: like my mind is made up, but it's not. I

676
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 2: just wanted to add those for clarification and hopes that

677
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: there's something that can be done.

678
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: And that's the end of that story.

679
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: I mean, you have your husband too. Your husband was

680
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: there when you told him about it.

681
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: Like I said, if they do end up firing you

682
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: because you brought this up, I'm ninety nine percent sure

683
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: you would win a wrongful termination lawsuit, especially like in

684
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: a think about that legal argument. You're like, do you

685
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: think so my client has been punished for bringing infidelity

686
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: to light?

687
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I was gonna.

688
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, no's that's I think you're fine with the job.

689
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: It's the proof thing, Like, who who's Brenda gonna.

690
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: Because he hasn't technically done anything yet and nothing's been

691
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: her knowledge or evident.

692
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: Do you do you think just blatantly's throwing one an

693
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Speaker 3: anonymous tip like Rachel, Well, I mean the only person

694
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: who knows Rachel.

695
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: No, this is what I say.

696
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: I say you you go to Brenda and you explain

697
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: with an open heart. You have to explain to her

698
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: what's going on, even to the point of being like,

699
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to tell you this.

700
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: I literally am tormented at the thought of having to

701
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: tell you this. Sam.

702
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: Here, we're gonna get back to the stories, but here's

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Speaker 2: three of it's bad from our sponsors.

704
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Speaker 1: My boyfriend is a jobless cheater. So why am I

705
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: unsure about moving on?

706
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Speaker 3: Why are you unsure. Come on, I don't know. We're

707
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: gonna have to find out. I know, I don't want

708
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: to know. Come on, that's that's there should be no

709
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Speaker 3: story here.

710
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Speaker 2: Sorry in advance for such a long story, I tried

711
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: to be as informative as possible so I could give

712
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: a decent picture of my situation. So me, twenty five

713
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 2: female and my boyfriend quote unquote twenty six ma. He

714
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: started dating in twenty nineteen. By the way, this comes

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Speaker 2: from user Disastrous Tear fifty four to seventy eight on

716
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Speaker 2: the rs slash Okay storytime suburtit. So we met in

717
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: college while he was in his previous relationship and I

718
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: was getting over a terrible breakup. Long story short, he

719
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: ended up breaking up with his X and some months

720
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: later we had our first day in April, but we

721
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: didn't make it official until last November.

722
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Speaker 3: When was the story What the heck? So was that

723
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: four years? We're not exactly sure that the timeline was

724
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: kind of weird.

725
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: Everything was going great until one day when he was

726
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: in another room, I saw a message from a girl

727
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: pop up on his phone, which obviously led me to

728
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: read all of the messages. I know this was an

729
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: invasion of privacy. But I had never heard this name before,

730
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: and something just didn't feel right. They were flirting and

731
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: he was telling her that he really liked her. Keep

732
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: in mind, this was barely a month into our official relationship.

733
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: It was an immediate red flag, but since we weren't

734
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: together for long, I swept it under the rock.

735
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: Bad bad bad bad Ah.

736
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: You just a month into your relationship, you didn't try

737
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: enough to not look through his phone, and for good reason,

738
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: and for both of those reasons, Sharks, I'm out. Over

739
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: the course of the next few years, there had been

740
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: a few more instances similar to this one, which were

741
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: all little flirts through messages that I ultimately forgave him for.

742
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: The last straw for me was a time in June

743
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two that I traveled to my hometown

744
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: for a funeral of a close friend, and I came

745
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: back to find out that he had not only been

746
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: flirting with someone, but made plans and met up with them.

747
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine that while I was mourning the loss

748
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: of my friend, he was out having a jolly good

749
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: time with some other girls, and I didn't cross his

750
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: mind once. Side note, I think it's worth saying that

751
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: to my knowledge, he has not physically cheated, But to

752
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: be honest, I see emotionally cheating or anything you feel

753
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: the need to hide just as bad. Okay, but they

754
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: definitely physically cheated. He met up with a girl while

755
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: you were away. That being said, I told him I

756
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: wanted to go on a break so that he could

757
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: figure out what he wanted. I know I should have

758
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: just completely broken up with him at that point, but

759
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: there's so much that went into me sticking around, and

760
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: it's hard to include every little detail in one redit post.

761
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: I will say though, that I've struggled with a low

762
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: self esteem for most of my teenage and young adult life,

763
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: and when he came into my life, he made me

764
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: feel so beautiful and love We were aligned spiritually, which

765
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: is honestly hard to come by these days, and our

766
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: chemistry was so insane that I thought, surely this is

767
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: my person. Anyways, this break was the start of a

768
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: two year long roller coaster of emotions, but we would

769
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: have deep conversations about our future and our upbringing and

770
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: how it possibly contributes to our bad habits, and this

771
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: is when things started clicking. I found out that basically

772
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: all of his male relatives on his dad's side, the uncles,

773
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: the cousins, and the granddad were cheaters or ladies.

774
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: Men, including his dad.

775
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: Run away as fast as you can run, run, run

776
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: sprint Olympian style. It's so bad that one of his

777
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: uncles was sent to the Great Beyond by his mistress.

778
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: Run Away, Paul, run away from this mail and his

779
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: entire family. As far as his dad, he cheated on

780
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: his mom throughout their whole marriage. They have both passed

781
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: away now, But I think because he gets compared to

782
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: his dad a lot, he's now subconsciously trying to be

783
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: just like him. I mentioned it to him and he agrees,

784
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: and he assured me that he wants to break this

785
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: generational curse. And I do believe that he wants to.

786
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: But actions speak louder than words. That being said, we

787
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: never fully got back together, but since we've lived together

788
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: all this time, we still go out as friends. And

789
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: if I'm being completely honest, we've had the spicy s

790
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: leap a few times too.

791
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Speaker 1: Girl, What are you doing?

792
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 3: You're you're kind of they're both a holes right now?

793
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: You know, you're so COGNI like, you're so cognizant of

794
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: like what's going on, and you're.

795
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: Like, uh, We've both been working on ourselves with the

796
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: intention on eventually getting back together, and I've seen some progress,

797
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: but I don't know if it's enough. There's other things

798
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: that are contributing to my frustration, like finances. I've carried

799
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: this relationship financially in so many ways. And don't get

800
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: me wrong, I don't have an issue with being the

801
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: main bread or helping him out since he doesn't really

802
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: have the family or support that I have, But to

803
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: be broken, irresponsible and having a lingering eye is crazy

804
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: to me. I feel like at this age we should

805
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: have our crap together and I can't wait forever for

806
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: him to get a grip, especially since I'm not the

807
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: one with the problem. I know I'm not perfect. I

808
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: can be very controlling and sometimes I feel like I'm nagging.

809
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: I also tend to shut down when I'm upset instead

810
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 2: of communicating, and I sometimes.

811
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: Feel like I make him feel like less of a man.

812
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: What are you? What are you doing?

813
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: O o pe?

814
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: Why are you defending?

815
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: I understand you just described that you you don't have

816
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: a high self worth, but this is not the word.

817
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: If you're aware of it, you need to like take

818
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: steps to build it up, because it's like you, If

819
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: you don't, you're gonna fall into another situation like this.

820
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope that you wouldn't, but if you

821
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: don't change that perspective in here, it's not Nah.

822
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: I feel like this is gonna keep happening to you.

823
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is just a recurring cycle of rince repeat, recycle, rinse, repeat, recycle.

824
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: You're not bettering yourself. Yeah, you gotta get out of

825
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: this toxic environment in a toxic relationship right now.

826
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 2: Anyways, He's never said that I make him feel less

827
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 2: of a man, but I feel like by me nagging

828
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: all the time, he probably feels like I'm treating him

829
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 2: like a child.

830
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: That's an assumption.

831
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: He's also told me that he wishes I was softer,

832
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: but I feel like I've grown up to be hard

833
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: because I've had to pick up the slack so many ways.

834
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: Moving on to the issue at hand, He's graduating with

835
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 2: an engineering degree soon, and months ago I gave him

836
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: an ultimatum. I told him that by the day he

837
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: graduates in December, I have to see a change in

838
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 2: his actions and in order for us to be together again.

839
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: I need a grand gesture. I'm usually a simple girl

840
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: and don't ask for much or anything at all, but

841
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: I feel like, after all I've been through with him,

842
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: I deserve something, even if it's just a well thought

843
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: out dinner in a movie or something romantic.

844
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: And no, I don't want him to propose yet.

845
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: Oh no, No, you.

846
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: Need to really therapy self worth.

847
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 2: You need to go to therapy and unpack what keeps

848
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: you from seeing the value that you have and the

849
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 2: fact that this guy is borderline valueless to you.

850
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has nothing to you, but stress.

851
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 2: You can't go from texting and flirting with multiple people

852
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: to suddenly being ready for marriage.

853
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: But we're ready for you to marry us. Every weekday at.

854
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: Three pm PST, when we go live on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok,

855
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: and Twitch, all you have to do is tap our

856
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: profile and you're in. But before you go check if

857
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: we're live. Right now, we're going to finish this story,

858
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 2: and I feel like we've honestly peppered our thoughts into

859
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: there so much right now that we're just going to

860
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: go right into the end of the story.

861
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Speaker 1: Here.

862
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 3: Let's just say, are you everyone sucks?

863
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: Here?

864
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 3: I know Op's in that like that mindset.

865
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: No, I don't feel like it's everyone sucks because Op.

866
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: It's like it's more than like it.

867
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: She's supporting it though.

868
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like I feel like it's coming from

869
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: some kind of trauma. It's coming from something.

870
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 3: Well, it's just it's there's something that she it's something

871
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 3: she needs.

872
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: To go to therapy for and build up.

873
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: But the thing is she knows that like this, he's bad.

874
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 3: He's bad, like that's bad, it's bad, red flags, red flags,

875
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 3: and she's just like I.

876
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 2: Think, I think it's absurd that she's possibly can considering

877
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: marrying this guy.

878
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 3: He does, it's a possibility. It seems like she wants

879
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: to marry this guy, she.

880
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: Says, I'm not. I don't want him to propose.

881
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 2: Yet it's like you shouldn't want this guy to propose,

882
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: you shouldn't want this guy in general. That is so

883
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: I guess if you want to put it like that, Yeah,

884
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: everyone does suck. But at the same time, it's like

885
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: I feel like it's just because she she.

886
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: Thinks she's worthless. Well, let's we got to keep going.

887
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: Let's keep going.

888
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: The issue is he still hasn't secured a job after

889
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: he graduates, and I have a job offer for a

890
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: job in my hometown. Obviously, as an engineer, he'd be

891
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: making more, which is why I considered putting my career

892
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: on hold to follow him. If we're going to work

893
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: this out. He has been applying and landing interviews, but

894
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: nothing is sticking. I wouldn't mind doing long distance, but honestly,

895
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could trust him if we're apart.

896
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: He still hasn't even asked me to be his girlfriend again.

897
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: So I don't know why I'm even stressing. Leave this man.

898
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

899
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 2: My head has just scrambled, and I've never thought I'd

900
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: be putting my life on hold for a man.

901
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: So what should I do? Leave this man?

902
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 2: Easy?

903
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: One more time?

904
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: Leave this man? Can we go three? Leave this man?

905
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 4: What are you doing?

906
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: You already know, That's what I'm saying. Oh, Pete, you

907
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 3: are so aware, but so unaware at the same time.

908
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 3: I don't understand therapy. You need therapy. You do need therapy.

909
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: You need a united a support system where you are

910
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: loved and you are cherished, and you are and put

911
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: in the right place. But this is not it.

912
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 5: My parents are Christian, but I don't believe in God.

913
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 5: They think I've been corrupted. Oh boy, comfortable, pretty heavy.

914
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 5: So I don't even know where to begin with this one.

915
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 5: It's been a thorn in my flesh for as long

916
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 5: as I can remember. Clever Okay, for context, I am

917
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 5: a twenty two female and have recently graduated college. I

918
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 5: grew up in a relatively normal environment with two loving parents.

919
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 5: They were never overly strict and have often let me

920
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 5: get away with more than I should have loo. I

921
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 5: grew up as a non denominational, evangelistic Christian same and

922
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 5: went to church every Sunday. Was regularly enrolled in Bible study, vacation,

923
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 5: Bible school, and Christian camp over the summer, so there

924
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 5: was always little to no doubt that the Bible was

925
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 5: the truth to our eggs distance from my perspective. Despite this,

926
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 5: I never particularly wanted to go to church and saw

927
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 5: it mostly as a chour. It does get kind of boring,

928
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 5: I will say, yeah, I mean, especially as a kid.

929
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 5: I mean, growing up hated it. It's like being drugged

930
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 5: a church. As early as I remember, I never got

931
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 5: along with any other other kids at my age that

932
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 5: were in the church always found them to be self

933
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 5: righteous and often felt outcast the Pharisees. By the way,

934
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 5: this comes from frog Lover forty two zero on the Rslage. Okay,

935
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 5: storytime separated it. You can't say four twenty oh we can.

936
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 5: I just didn't read it right. Sorry, I can't say it.

937
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 5: But I'm just just like sick.

938
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, okay.

939
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 5: I remember one specific instance where I was at Christian

940
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 5: camp at nine years old and my vocabulary consisted of

941
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 5: phrases like that sucks and what the heck. In response

942
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 5: of a group of girls reprimanded me for it and

943
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 5: began to stubbornly exclude me from their hangouts. Dude, that

944
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 5: is so sorry. In the Bible, Jesus is like talking

945
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 5: to the Pharisees of like, include everyone just because they're

946
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 5: different from you and not super as righteous usual include everyone.

947
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: But then these guys are excluding him.

948
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 5: The girls are being these Pharisees. They're like, you say,

949
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 5: what the heck?

950
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 4: Uh No, no, no, that's.

951
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: Because that's also such a kid thing to do.

952
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. Similar situations like this persisted through my adolescence,

953
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 5: where I often felt like I didn't belong in a

954
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 5: church community. Ah, that's so sad. They missed the point.

955
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 5: I also took issue with a lot of things that

956
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 5: were taught to young children as well. When I was

957
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 5: in the sixth grade, I attended a weekly Bible study.

958
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 5: One particular lesson had to do with what girls should

959
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 5: and shouldn't wear in the presence of young boys. I

960
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 5: took explicit issue with this because I feel like it

961
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 5: was morally wrong for me to confine myself in order

962
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 5: for a boy to control his natural urges. I talked

963
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 5: to my mom about this, and she ended up siding

964
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 5: with the teacher, to my dismay. As I grew older

965
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 5: and went through puberty, I entered a very difficult stage

966
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 5: with Christianity. I repressed any attraction I had to the

967
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 5: opposite sex in fear of sinning. I would have obsessive

968
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 5: and repetitive thoughts about how if I didn't ask for

969
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 5: forgiveness for all of my sins, I would be severely

970
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 5: punished by God. She wasn't taught about loving God. She

971
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 5: was taught about a very like like that kind of guy,

972
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 5: vengeful God. Oh that's hard, that is so hard. I

973
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 5: felt like I was at odds with everything I had

974
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 5: been taught my parents continue to enforce Christian values onto me,

975
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 5: making it sometimes difficult having conversations with them, specifically my mother.

976
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 5: When I answered college, I had a sharky relationship with Christianity.

977
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 5: I felt very conflicted with everything, and no one seemed

978
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 5: to have an answer that satisfied me. As I spent

979
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 5: more time away from home in college, it hit me

980
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, what if everything I had been

981
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 5: taught wasn't true at all? I saw people from all

982
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 5: walks of life at school, good and happy people who

983
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 5: have never grown up Christian. I know this sounds crazy,

984
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 5: but I had been taught that it was impossible to

985
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 5: have true happiness or healthy relationships if you weren't Christian.

986
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: I was taught that too, Really were you?

987
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 5: Oh?

988
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: Well?

989
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 5: You always repointed it towards Jesus. He's like, yeah, but

990
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 5: I could see where this is conflicting.

991
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

992
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 5: While I began to gain healthy and loyal friendships with

993
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 5: my peers, I realized this wasn't necessarily true. I strayed

994
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 5: further away from Christianity and the religious guilt and obsessive

995
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 5: thoughts I had. My entire life had began to grow smaller.

996
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 5: I realized my upbringing was only one of many, and

997
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 5: no one had the same religious experience as myself. I

998
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 5: felt stupid for not realizing it sooner. You can't put

999
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 5: that on yourself.

1000
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's how you were taught and grown up. You

1001
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 4: know that's not wrong.

1002
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 5: Yeah. Currently I'm in a weird spot with religion. Well,

1003
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 5: it gave me so much explanation of why we exist.

1004
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 5: I had a strong set of moral principles. I have

1005
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 5: had a hard time believing anything as absolute fact. At

1006
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 5: this point, I really don't know the answer to anything,

1007
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 5: but I hope as I grow older, I will come

1008
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 5: to a conclusion for myself that will be satisfactory. Now,

1009
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 5: after that long winded backstory, I want to bring up

1010
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 5: my current relationship with my parents. My parents seem very

1011
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 5: Christian and set in their beliefs. It's hard to even

1012
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 5: talk to my mother specifically without her mentioning the Bible.

1013
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 5: I've spoke to her before about where I am two

1014
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 5: years ago, and I don't think it was any help.

1015
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 5: I know what she thinks of non Christians as well,

1016
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 5: which makes me sick to my stomach knowing that that's

1017
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 5: what she thinks of me. Now she believes they are

1018
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 5: essentially lost, and, as I've said before, will never find

1019
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 5: true happiness. Anytime I'm struggling, I want to turn to

1020
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 5: my mother for advice. I met with the same response,

1021
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 5: If you turn to God, everything will fall into place.

1022
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 5: I'm old enough to know that struggles are normal for

1023
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 5: someone my age, but it's hard knowing that I have

1024
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 5: such a disconnect with my mother. I've lived in an

1025
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 5: extremely privileged life, and I am grateful for everything my

1026
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 5: parents have done for me. And while this issue is

1027
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 5: miniscule to the grand scheme of things, it's so hard

1028
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 5: to know that there will always be a huge rift

1029
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 5: in my relationship with my parents as they grow older.

1030
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 5: I have become even more anxious about our disconnect, knowing

1031
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 5: that I don't have time with them forever, which kills

1032
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 5: me inside every single day. Even if I try to

1033
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 5: talk to my mother about respecting my own journey with religion,

1034
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 5: she will never accept it, because to her, believing in

1035
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 5: the Bible is the only truth and will give me

1036
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 5: eternal salvation. Even to this day, I will carry a

1037
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 5: significant amount of guilt, and I will have issues with

1038
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 5: my society and feel extraordinarily guilty when it comes to

1039
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,959
Speaker 5: spicy sleep I often fear I'm going to hg double

1040
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 5: hockey sticks despite not believing in it, and I'm scared

1041
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 5: that I will never find true happiness and I will

1042
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 5: one day have failed a marriage because I am no

1043
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 5: longer Christian. Even though I know modesty is completely subjective,

1044
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 5: I sometimes feel I am sleazy for showing too much cleavage,

1045
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 5: et cetera. Even if I don't believe those thoughts are true,

1046
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 5: they still cause me anxiety because they were ingrained in

1047
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 5: me as a child. Oh this is so hard.

1048
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 4: Gosh, this is so hard your.

1049
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 5: Understanding and realizing the thoughts and issues. I mean, therapy

1050
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 5: I think would.

1051
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 4: Be really be great.

1052
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 6: Yes, oh my gosh, Yeah that is hard because like,

1053
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 6: I don't know, I didn't grow up that way. Yeah,

1054
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 6: I grew up without any religion in my life, but

1055
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 6: I've had many friends that are Christian and friends that

1056
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 6: were of other religions as well, and like learning all

1057
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 6: about that kind of stuff, and I don't know, it's

1058
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 6: just like it just seems so strange.

1059
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to talk about this. It is.

1060
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 5: It is strange. And like, I mean, I was taught

1061
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 5: I was Christian, I grew up Christian, but.

1062
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 6: I'm not saying the religion sounds strange. I'm just saying,

1063
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 6: like I mean, it can't be strange. My sentence, I

1064
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 6: didn't know how to finish my sentence.

1065
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 5: It's strange.

1066
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 6: Strange to grow up that way and to have all

1067
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 6: of these like feelings of pressure on you about everything

1068
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 6: in your life.

1069
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? That just sounds very uncomfortable.

1070
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I grew up the same as OPI. I feel

1071
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 5: the same as Hidas in a lot of ways, and

1072
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 5: you know, it is tough going that way. I think

1073
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 5: like a therapist could help. And also having a community, Yeah,

1074
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 5: that what has helped me is I found a community

1075
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 5: that are Christian and they're not like those group of

1076
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 5: girls you say bad words. I'm not going to be

1077
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 5: your friend. They accept me for who I am, where

1078
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 5: I'm at, and I'm willing to have those kind of

1079
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 5: conversations right and they still like I have a good friend.

1080
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 5: Anytime I have issues, I talked to him and he

1081
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 5: him and I have the same mindset and he backs

1082
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 5: me up and he knows where I'm at with this

1083
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 5: kind of stuff. That's good and that supports great. I

1084
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 5: just hate that. I just hate that people treat you

1085
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 5: this way, and they don't. They don't love you for

1086
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 5: who you are, and now you feel bad for being

1087
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 5: who you.

1088
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 4: Are, right, I know that's the hard part, and.

1089
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 5: That's not how it's supposed to go right at all.

1090
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 4: That's just that's ah.

1091
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 6: Because so many things are just like I don't know,

1092
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Speaker 6: it just seems hard to like, like, I feel like

1093
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 6: growing up when you're young, how old does it p

1094
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 6: to be there?

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Speaker 1: Twenty two?

1096
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, I forgot, I was too forth anyway, I.

1097
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Speaker 6: Feel like when you're young and like growing up just

1098
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 6: through high school, middle school and stuff like that, you're

1099
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 6: already learning about so many rules about how you should

1100
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 6: act towards other people, how you should carry yourself, how

1101
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 6: you should.

1102
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 4: Just like be as a person.

1103
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 6: You're already figuring out that so much, like all that

1104
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 6: based on your own experiences, and there's so much that

1105
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 6: you can take from other people's experiences and learning from

1106
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 6: other stories and stuff. But it just seems really hard

1107
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 6: to have like so many rules like put on you

1108
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 6: just from religion, from your parents with religion, when there's

1109
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 6: already so many things like that, so many pressures like

1110
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 6: that from everywhere else.

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00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 4: They do you know, what I mean, I don't know.

1112
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 4: That just seems right.

1113
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 5: I'm so sorry, OPI Yeah, I wish I could turn

1114
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 5: my mother and father, the people I love and respect

1115
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 5: more than anything in the world. I can't because they

1116
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 5: will just reaffirm my fears. Truly feels like there is

1117
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 5: no way out of the situation and one day I

1118
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 5: will just have to accept it. But really don't want

1119
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 5: that to be the case, because my parents are good

1120
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 5: people and I want to be able to be close

1121
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 5: with them without feeling like there is this big wall

1122
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 5: of religion dividing us. They are proud of me and

1123
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 5: everything I have accomplished, but they still think my beliefs

1124
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 5: are fundamentally wrong and that I have been corrupted by

1125
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 5: modern culture. I guess I'm asking for advice on how

1126
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 5: to navigate this situation without feeling too defeated. I don't

1127
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 5: want to feel terrible knowing that my parents think I'm

1128
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 5: lost and I'm leading a life devoted of fulfillment. How

1129
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 5: can I amend this rift any people in similar situations

1130
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 5: that know what I can say or do to make

1131
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 5: them understand? But I hope you understand that we go

1132
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 5: live every weekend at three PMPSC just tap our profile.

1133
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

1134
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 6: I mean, I again didn't grow up this way, so

1135
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 6: I really don't know how you would go about it, honestly,

1136
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 6: what do you think?

1137
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 5: I think it's super sad you've been in a Christian

1138
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 5: community and no one has been able to relate to

1139
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 5: you and meet you where you are, because Jesus is

1140
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 5: all about meeting you where you are, right and it

1141
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 5: sucks that no one in this community has done that.

1142
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 4: And yeah, that's so tough.

1143
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if like trying to

1144
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 6: understand that, like it seems like your parents aren't going

1145
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 6: to change. Yeah, I know, right, so you're not going

1146
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 6: to try to change your parents, especially if they're so

1147
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 6: adamant about this. I think I think it would probably

1148
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 6: just be about like accepting that this is just how

1149
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 6: it's gonna be, not in the way that like you know,

1150
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 6: it's going to be a problem forever, but just like

1151
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 6: if you can find some sort of like piecing stepence

1152
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 6: in yourself that like it's okay for you to have

1153
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 6: a difference in belief than your parents, then maybe that

1154
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 6: will mean that you'll be able to kind of like

1155
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 6: you know, deal with them not agreeing you know what

1156
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 6: I mean, Like if you kind of just really like, Okay,

1157
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 6: this is how I am, this is an okay situation.

1158
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 4: It's fine that we disagree, then maybe you can.

1159
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 6: Just like take some deep breaths when they don't quite

1160
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 6: feel the same way, and you'll be able to kind

1161
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 6: of shrug it off a bit easier. I don't know,

1162
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 6: I don't know, but that's that's really hard though.

1163
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm on the train of you're in a different

1164
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 5: you're in a hopefully you're in just a tough spot

1165
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 5: with God right now, and that like someone can help

1166
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 5: you and meet you where you are, and he can

1167
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 5: meet you where you are. Yeah, parents, Like I hate

1168
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 5: that your parents have this idea and like this, like

1169
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 5: it's so sad that the parents are like anyone that

1170
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 5: isn't safe just lost and they don't know true, Like

1171
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 5: that's not how we should be viewing, like as that's

1172
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 5: how you're supposed to be viewing people should be, like,

1173
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 5: you know, hopefully they do know that Jesus loves them.

1174
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 5: I just hope that everyone knows that Jesus loves them.

1175
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 5: And it's just like it's it's tough that in this

1176
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 5: in this white people just don't go better that way, yeah,

1177
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 5: my heart really.

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Speaker 6: And on the other hand too, it's like if you

1179
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 6: if you don't ever like go back to it, it

1180
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 6: absolutely is pa and very very doable to like have

1181
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 6: a fulfilling and happy, happy life without all of them,

1182
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 6: because I feel like, you know, everyone has their different

1183
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 6: experiences with that stuff.

1184
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: Everyone grew up a different way. Everyone.

1185
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Speaker 6: You know, there's so many other religions in the world,

1186
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 6: and whatever you feel connected to.

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty biased.

1188
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 4: I really We're about biased in like the opposite ways.

1189
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Speaker 6: We're like we're like op's like two different mindsets.

1190
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Speaker 4: On this thing.

1191
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Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, whatever you choose, like there is

1192
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 6: an absolutely possible way for you.

1193
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 4: To be happy either way.

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Speaker 6: And I think I don't know, I have heard this

1195
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 6: is this might be going on a tangent for too long,

1196
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 6: but I have heard someone explain like just general judgment

1197
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Speaker 6: in a way, like not even just with the religion,

1198
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Speaker 6: but with anything of like if someone is like taught

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Speaker 6: that like they can't be a certain way, Like I

1200
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 6: think it was explained with like it was like someone

1201
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 6: talking about like fat people or something like that.

1202
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 4: It was like.

1203
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Speaker 6: People have been taught to be ashamed of themselves if

1204
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 6: they gain anyway.

1205
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 4: So if they see someone.

1206
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 6: Else that has gained weight or is fat or anything

1207
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 6: like that and they are not feeling ashamed, then they

1208
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 6: get mad at that person and start judging that person

1209
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 6: and want to tear them down because it's like, wait, wait,

1210
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 6: wait a second, I am not allowed to do this,

1211
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 6: so why are you allowed to do this? That makes

1212
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 6: me you know what I mean? So it might be

1213
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 6: something similar in this situation. So I don't know if

1214
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 6: there's like a way to kind of just like there's

1215
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 6: a lot of rewiring places. Yeah, maybe there's a way

1216
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 6: to understand where your parents are at and just just

1217
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 6: be like, you know what, they have their own experience

1218
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 6: with this, They have their own pressures that they're dealing with.

1219
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 6: Maybe some of it isn't related to me, or it

1220
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 6: doesn't need to apply to me.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. It's so complicated, it's auper complicated.

1222
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 5: And finish out the story. Disclaimer. I understand that a

1223
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 5: significant portion of my reasoning for no longer being Christian

1224
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 5: has to do with the way people have corrupted the

1225
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 5: Word of God. I see where that is. I also

1226
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 5: have a hard time believing the actual doctrine as well,

1227
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 5: but in fear of this post being longer than it

1228
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Speaker 5: already is, I did not want to include it. I

1229
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 5: think very highly of Christianity for what it truly is.

1230
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 5: I just don't necessarily believe it. I will not accept

1231
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 5: any hates towards Christians, and I discourage any person to

1232
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 5: do so.

1233
00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: I think that's good.

1234
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 6: I think I think a lot of people jump towards

1235
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 6: like hating and judging religion, and especially Christianity, because of

1236
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 6: a lot of examples of judgmental Christians. But it's like,

1237
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 6: that's not you don't.

1238
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 4: Need to do that.

1239
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, fundamentally, that's We're not supposed to judge as Christians. Okay,

1240
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 5: as a Christian you're not supposed to judge other non Christians.

1241
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 5: But as a Christian, you are supposed to judge. You

1242
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 5: are supposed to hold your other Christian fellow Christians accountable.

1243
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: So yeah, don't hate Christian Christians or Christian.

1244
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 5: Christians, don't hate non Christians. I mean that, come on,

1245
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 5: you're supposed to love everyone.

1246
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: God.

1247
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 4: Oh, that's so tricky, that's so difficult.

1248
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 6: But yeah, hopefully you can find people that are in

1249
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 6: your position as well and they can help you through it.

1250
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 4: But that's the end of that story. So we'll see

1251
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 4: you next time.

1252
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, it's John og Host here. We're gonna get

1253
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: back to the story. So but here's a quick three

1254
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: minute break from as for more sponsors.

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Speaker 6: My dad wants to split my college fund with his

1256
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 6: affair child.

1257
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 5: That's your second family.

1258
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: Second family.

1259
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 5: What you get a golden Sam's golden rule, you get

1260
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 5: one practice family.

1261
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: Really, that's his rule.

1262
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness.

1263
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 6: My father dropped a big bomb on our family last

1264
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,959
Speaker 6: year when he revealed he has a secret son from

1265
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 6: his affair years ago. Oh my goodness, is starting out

1266
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 6: strong on this story. After my mom found out and

1267
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 6: he gave him the ultimatum, he cut things off with

1268
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 6: the mistress and she moved away until last year when

1269
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 6: she introduced him to their son, Hank. Hey, Hank, how's

1270
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 6: it going. I really don't give an aang about his

1271
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 6: Latin affair instinct since he didn't give his other family

1272
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 6: any consideration when he broke the news.

1273
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 5: Okay, cool, cool, So he stayed with you as a

1274
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 5: real family, I guess.

1275
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1276
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 6: Still, I don't know. It seems like he's not making

1277
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 6: good decisions either way.

1278
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 1: Thank god.

1279
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 6: My mom divorced him, and now neither my brother Connor

1280
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 6: male eighteen, or my sister Sophia female fifteen.

1281
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 4: Neither of them or I want anything to do.

1282
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: With him anymore.

1283
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 6: By the way, this comes from disband depressed on the arstache. Okay,

1284
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 6: storytime separated it. So here's the thing. Though, We have

1285
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 6: a shared college fund that my mom's parents set up

1286
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 6: for us when we were little. My parents contribute almost

1287
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 6: half of the money and my maternal grandparents contribute the

1288
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 6: other half.

1289
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 5: See how it said mom keyword mom set up.

1290
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 4: Mom, Mom set the s up, not the dad.

1291
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 6: The account remains under my mom after the divorce. As

1292
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 6: far as I know, he stopped contributing to the account

1293
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 6: after the divorce. Last month, I found out that my

1294
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 6: dad's been harassing my mom because he wanted to add

1295
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 6: Hank as a beneficiary to the college fund.

1296
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 4: For my sib legs.

1297
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: What no, not win them.

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00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 6: Maternal grandparents are also paying for it, and you're not

1299
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 6: even paying for it anymore.

1300
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 5: How old Tank eighteen we don't know yet.

1301
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 6: But I'm guessing only like a couple of years old,

1302
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 6: because it just said Hank is the son.

1303
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 4: From an affair a few years ago.

1304
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 5: We too, at plenty of time to get his college fund.

1305
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's saying that Hank is his son and therefore

1306
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 6: entitled to the college fund that he's set up.

1307
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 4: For me, Connor and Sophia.

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00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 6: My mom told him off, and now he has been

1309
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 6: going around harassing her online and to their mutual acquaintances

1310
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 6: and friends, claiming that she he is heartless and cruel

1311
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 6: for taking her anger out on an innocent child.

1312
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

1313
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 6: And then he also had the genius idea to reach

1314
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 6: out to me and put pressure on my mom. He said,

1315
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 6: I should consider opening up my heart to Hank, who

1316
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 6: grew up without a father and.

1317
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 4: Wasn't set up in life like my siblings and me, Oh.

1318
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 5: Why are you making this Opie's problem that he didn't

1319
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 5: have a father?

1320
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1321
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 4: What like's that's.

1322
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: On you, dude?

1323
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 4: That's all I knew.

1324
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 6: I left him on red since honestly, the things I

1325
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 6: wanted to say to that.

1326
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 4: Callous, evil monster maybe too much.

1327
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 6: Yesterday he changed tactics and now said he wanted to

1328
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 6: withdraw all his part of the money from the account

1329
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 6: divined them to make sure Hank has his share, and

1330
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 6: deposited the rest back into the account.

1331
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 5: We alsa loves Hank. I'm not buying this. I'm sorry,

1332
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 5: not buying what. We weren't there for Hank his whole year,

1333
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 5: and now you want money for him. Hank didn't grow

1334
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 5: up with the father, Hank didn't have a great family

1335
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 5: growing up, and now all of a sudden, you want

1336
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 5: to get money.

1337
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 6: That's a good that's a good point.

1338
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 4: That's a good point. That's a good point. With the

1339
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 4: caveat that since Connor and I didn't.

1340
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 6: Need to use the college fund for tuitions, since we

1341
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 6: both had full right scholarships, the money would be divided

1342
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 6: into two parts for Hank and Sophia, well instead of

1343
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 6: four parts for his four children.

1344
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 5: Well, then they should be compensated and use that as

1345
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 5: a down payment for their house.

1346
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great idea.

1347
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, Sofia doesn't need all that money for her college thing,

1348
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 6: then like, yeah, they should get some of that money too. Yeah,

1349
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 6: or they just all go on a big family vacation

1350
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 6: without the dad.

1351
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 4: Maybe Hank and the dad can do something else and

1352
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 4: now him.

1353
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 6: Some of my dad's side of the family and even

1354
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 6: the mistress are pressuring my mom to agree to.

1355
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 4: That, and I'm praying that she won't.

1356
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 6: It makes me physically angry that we are being asked

1357
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 6: to split our money with my dad's a fair child.

1358
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 6: Even if yes, I don't need to use the money

1359
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 6: to pay for school, I will need it in the future.

1360
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 6: Same with Connor, and I know for a fact he

1361
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 6: would never use the same reasoning to exclude Connor and

1362
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 6: I from the fund just to have the money solely

1363
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 6: for Sophia.

1364
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 4: In the same situation, it's all for Hank.

1365
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 6: I understand that Hank is innocent and not responsible for

1366
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 6: his parents' actions, but I don't think of him as

1367
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 6: my brother. Heck, I don't even think of my father

1368
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 6: as my father anymore. To be honest, as far as

1369
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 6: I'm concerned, my family consists of me, my siblings, and

1370
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 6: my mom.

1371
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 4: That's it. So am I the a hole?

1372
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: Edit?

1373
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm twenty three.

1374
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 4: Hank is fourteen, So not a few years ago?

1375
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 5: Wow, he's so we found out about it a few

1376
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 5: years ago? He can row Yeah, okay, and then it

1377
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 5: goes and there's still more edits.

1378
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, what think?

1379
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not buying that the dad is going to

1380
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 5: be doing the bestest things with this money. Yeah, because

1381
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 5: the mom said cut off the mistress and weuld still

1382
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 5: be together earlier. Yeah, you think he was still doing that.

1383
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 5: I think he's gotten some money trouble and he's trying

1384
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 5: to use his college fund again.

1385
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 4: It's interesting.

1386
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have conflicting thoughts. I'm going to be so honest.

1387
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 6: I'm going to play Devil's advocate for just a second.

1388
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 4: Hear me out.

1389
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, so op.

1390
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 6: He was saying that what the dad wants to do,

1391
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 6: the dad has contributed money, stopped contributing after the divorce.

1392
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: Okay, what the.

1393
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 6: Dad wants to do is go in see what he contributed,

1394
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 6: split that into four, and take a quarter out for HENK.

1395
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 4: Honestly doesn't seem that bad.

1396
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: But I have.

1397
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 6: Another thought to contradict that, because here here's my thoughts.

1398
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 4: Excuse it is the money that he contributed.

1399
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 6: What I like about it is that he's not taking

1400
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 6: out the money that the mom or the grandparents contributed,

1401
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 6: because that's what I was afraid of, like, you can't,

1402
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 6: you can't have an affairs. Yeah, he's just taking like

1403
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 6: part of his portion out. He's not even taking like

1404
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 6: half of it. I'm pretty sure, because like you know,

1405
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,439
Speaker 6: if Sophia and Hank are the only ones that would

1406
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 6: need it, possibly for college. Then like he would split

1407
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 6: it into half. But I think he said split into

1408
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 6: four and take a quarter of it out of just

1409
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 6: what he contributed god, which I like a lot better

1410
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 6: than the idea of taking out like part of what

1411
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 6: the mom and the grandparents contributed.

1412
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: That would be that would make me mad.

1413
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 5: Well, he could have done that maybe fourteen years ago.

1414
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 4: True.

1415
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: True.

1416
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 6: What I'm also thinking, though, too, oh boy, is to

1417
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 6: just go against that is that if he stopped contributing

1418
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 6: after the divorce, then he could take all the money

1419
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 6: that he would have been contributing and use that for Hank.

1420
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, Because the child is fourteen

1421
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 6: years old, the divorce was probably like a long time ago,

1422
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 6: not just a few years, you know.

1423
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 5: I think it was a few years ago. They got divorce,

1424
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 5: They found out a few years ago about him, and

1425
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 5: then like a year later got divorced.

1426
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha.

1427
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 6: If he just like stopped contributing to the other three

1428
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 6: kids that he already had, then like, that's pretty stupid.

1429
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, you want to be

1430
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 4: a good parent for Hank and do the same for him.

1431
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 6: I say, you know, I did listen to Devil's outgate

1432
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 6: first second.

1433
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 4: But I don't really agree with it. I don't think

1434
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 4: he should do that.

1435
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 6: I do think that he could just yeah, whatever, whatever

1436
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 6: you were supposed to contribute that whole time after the divorce,

1437
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 6: then just use.

1438
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 4: That for Hank.

1439
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, agreed.

1440
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 4: Come on, man, So we've got some comments.

1441
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 6: So for what type of fund this is, we're answering

1442
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 6: that where I live, if the funds are unused due

1443
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 6: to scholarship, we can withdraw it and won't be penalized.

1444
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 6: And I am considering getting a master, so even if

1445
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 6: I didn't have to pay for the undergraduate I probably

1446
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 6: will need it for grad school. The fund is a

1447
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 6: state sponsored savings plan. Sorry, I can't give the actual

1448
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 6: name since it's very specific to.

1449
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 4: Where we live.

1450
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 6: That's interesting, though, I didn't realize that the state could

1451
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 6: be involved in that. Oh yeah, now this is from

1452
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 6: a common term, not the a hole at all. Where

1453
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 6: does your father get the idea that he set up

1454
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 6: this fund when it was your grandparents on your mom's side?

1455
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 4: Yep?

1456
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 6: Do his family members know the whole story? Ooh Op responds, Yeah.

1457
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 6: The man's delusion is out of this world. His audacity

1458
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 6: is truly unmatched. My paternal grandparents know and support us.

1459
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 6: Oh okay, so his okay father's it's.

1460
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 5: Like his mom and the paternal grandparents.

1461
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I know.

1462
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 6: My grandma has been trying to get him to back off,

1463
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 6: but he unfortunately doesn't listen to her. It's mainly my

1464
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 6: dad's brothers who are joining him to harass my mom.

1465
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 6: I don't know if they know the full story or not.

1466
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 6: Since Grandma and Grandpa know, I feel like they do too.

1467
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 6: And now we have an update. But before we do, do

1468
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 6: you have any thoughts?

1469
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 5: This man is illusional and I am totally against him

1470
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 5: getting any money.

1471
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 4: Yep, I'm glad that he's the only one on his side.

1472
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 4: Let's see the update though.

1473
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 6: Thank you so much for everyone for the support and advices.

1474
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it.

1475
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 6: I talked to my mom this morning about getting the

1476
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 6: lawyer involved and also about potential restraining order. Whoa Stev WHOA.

1477
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 6: She has been talking to the lawyer about Dad's demands

1478
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,919
Speaker 6: and it looks like he really doesn't have any rights

1479
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 6: to it.

1480
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 4: Boom, there we go.

1481
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 6: I think some of you are correct that he is

1482
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 6: doing all of this because he knows he won't win

1483
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 6: in court.

1484
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 4: There we go as for a restraining order.

1485
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 6: My mom is hesitant to do it right now since

1486
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 6: the dad has visitation rights with Sophia and she doesn't

1487
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 6: want to make it too complicated for my sister, but

1488
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 6: she promised me that if things get worse, she will

1489
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 6: get one. My brother Connor and I also talked and

1490
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 6: we will be making turns coming home for the weekend

1491
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 6: so Mom and Sofia won't be alone.

1492
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 4: Just in case anything happens. And now some clarifications.

1493
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 6: We haven't involved Mom's parents since their health aren't the

1494
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 6: best right now. Grandpa was really shocked when you heard

1495
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 6: about the cheating and secret son of the dad that

1496
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 6: he had a heart attack, but thank god he is

1497
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 6: mostly recovered now hopefully none of us, or however, none

1498
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 6: of us.

1499
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: Want to put any more stress on him.

1500
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that is insane, my gosh.

1501
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 6: But you know what can take the stress off of

1502
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 6: you is by joining us live every week day three

1503
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 6: pm PST.

1504
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: Just top our profile.

1505
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 5: That's my girl, our profile. You see that segue. Dude,

1506
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 5: he got a heart attack.

1507
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a heart attack. There's still more to

1508
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 4: the story, but I.

1509
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 5: In this case, i'd probably like anything the mom says

1510
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 5: goes with their decisions on the other parents, Like like,

1511
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 5: if you've all the grandparents anymore, they're gonna get stressed out.

1512
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

1513
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 5: I would say the worst is gone, but it's not

1514
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 5: because they're getting a restraining order on the dad now.

1515
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's probably like it's probably pretty crazy, I think,

1516
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 6: especially too, since the maternal grandparents are paying for it,

1517
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 6: so they have a little more say.

1518
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: In this whole situation.

1519
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 4: Luckily, though, we still have the paternal grandparents and they could.

1520
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: Talk to you.

1521
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 6: According to Dad, he never knew about Hank's existence until

1522
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 6: last year.

1523
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 1: When his mistress came back.

1524
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 4: Wow, so they've really only known about for a year.

1525
01:02:58,800 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 5: Holy cow.

1526
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 6: Nobody in our family knew, really until Dad brought Hank

1527
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 6: to a family event to break the.

1528
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: News to us.

1529
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 5: That's the best way to do it.

1530
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess he blindsided and humiliated my mom and

1531
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 6: it was the final straw for her. They divorced after that.

1532
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 6: Oh okay, so it's only been a year that they've divorced.

1533
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha.

1534
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 6: I honestly don't hate Hank, it's just that right now

1535
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 6: I can't imagine spending time with him. He's a minor still,

1536
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 6: so everything we'll have to involve either the father or

1537
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 6: his mother, and that is a no for me right now.

1538
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 6: Perhaps in the future things will be different, who knows.

1539
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 6: Hopefully things get resolved soon. Thank you again for the

1540
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 6: amazing advice and words of support.

1541
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: But that is the end of our story.

1542
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 5: Or Hank, Poor Hank, dude, he didn't ask for any

1543
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 5: of this.

1544
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 4: Really didn't.

1545
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: He's in such a mess.

1546
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 4: Right now, he really is.

1547
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 6: And the fact that, like you know, at least Op

1548
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 6: has like a good mom and like good people on

1549
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 6: that side. But Hank, I think it's really just like

1550
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 6: his grandparents that have a regular stable mind.

1551
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 5: Yeah too wee god wow, classic, Okay, storytime story Dassic one. Yeah,

1552
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 5: that's a good one.

1553
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: That is, like, that's a good one.

1554
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 4: Short and sweet, short and sweet, I mean not sweet.

1555
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 5: But hopefully get that get that restraining order going on,

1556
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 5: and in four years, hopefully you can hang out with Hank.

1557
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1558
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 6: Honestly, I think it's so fair that it's like too

1559
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 6: weird to hang out with Hank right now.

1560
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:20,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, so fair.

1561
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 4: So give it time. You're good, not your fault, not Hank.

1562
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 5: If I have a secret brother, I probably would because

1563
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 5: I'm they're twenty three. I'm twenty four now. Yeah, I

1564
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 5: probably like if I had a fourteen year old secret brother,

1565
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 5: probably send him a letter, be like, hey man, yeah,

1566
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 5: thinking about you, right, if you need anything non molnetarily

1567
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 5: let me know.

1568
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get you.

1569
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 6: I think I would probably do something like that too.

1570
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 6: I would totally reach out and kind of excited, be cool.

1571
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1572
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm the youngest of my sibling, so I've

1573
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 6: never had a younger sibling.

1574
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:45,439
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that'd be pretty cool.

1575
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 6: But I think the main thing is the relationship with

1576
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 6: the parents and how that surrounds it. If my relationship

1577
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 6: with my parents was like not like that and it's

1578
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 6: it's not good, how it is love your dad, like,

1579
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 6: I think that would I might feel differently if I

1580
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 6: was in op specific situation.

1581
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but.

1582
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 5: Pooh, so sord story.

1583
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, so let's get into this next one.

1584
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 5: I had a massive collection of rocks and minerals, but

1585
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 5: my family sold everything.

1586
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 6: Sold everything, not your pet rock. I think of those

1587
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 6: pet rocks in like twenty.

1588
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:22,479
Speaker 4: Ten, anyone else.

1589
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 5: Let's grow. I'm a college freshman and I'm currently visiting

1590
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 5: my mom over a break. When I got there, I

1591
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 5: saw a crystal that was in my old room on

1592
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 5: display and asked about it. My mom then told me

1593
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 5: that the rest was gone after the art. So did

1594
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 5: it go? By the way, this comes from Pebble one

1595
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 5: one on the R size. Okay story, Tom subret it.

1596
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 5: So for context, my parents were moving the same time

1597
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 5: I was getting ready for college, so the house was

1598
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 5: in total chaos. Basically, I had a rock collection that

1599
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 5: I had been growing for around ten years and had

1600
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 5: cost me over one thousand dollars.

1601
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 6: Honestly, kind of impressed that dated to one thousand. Really

1602
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 6: ten years for any sort of collection, that seems like

1603
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 6: a cos war.

1604
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 5: I'm probably I know how you spend, I know how

1605
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 5: you spend well.

1606
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 6: I probably spent more than thousand dollars on fabric alone.

1607
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 4: On my collection of fabrics anyway.

1608
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 5: Some were gifts from old friends or family. Some I

1609
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 5: had found in special destinations and significance. Yeah, just do that.

1610
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 5: That makes sense, and all of them were important to me.

1611
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 5: Since the collection took up to two cabinets, I knew

1612
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 5: I couldn't take it to my dorm room and decided

1613
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 5: to pack them up. My brother also likes rocks, so

1614
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 5: I thought he could be a good fit to look

1615
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 5: after them while I couldn't, or at least I decorate

1616
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 5: my room. When my parents bought a house, apparently, my

1617
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 5: brother picked through the boxes and told my mother to

1618
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 5: sell everything he didn't want to keep. My aunt and

1619
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 5: mother took a few each as they liked, but hundreds

1620
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 5: of rocks were either donated or sold, with none of

1621
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 5: the profit going to me without my knowledge.

1622
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, no profit.

1623
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 5: When I learned this, I broke down in tears. I

1624
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 5: know they're just rocks, but they brought me a lot

1625
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 5: of happiness, and I can't believe they're just gone. This

1626
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 5: out makes me cry again. My mother feels really sorry,

1627
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 5: and I don't blame anyone for this, but I'm crushed. Man, dude,

1628
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 5: you just hit rock bottom. How do I deal with

1629
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 5: this loss and not take it out on my family?

1630
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 5: I'm not mad at anyone. I just wish i'd explain

1631
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 5: better or something. And I don't want any of my

1632
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 5: family to think I'm angry at them. We haven't had it.

1633
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 4: That's so sad, feel so bad.

1634
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 6: Ope, he's being so nice about this too, saying that

1635
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 6: they can't blame anyone. I of feel like you can

1636
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 6: you can blame the brother maybe, Yeah, selling that without

1637
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 6: your knowledge and none of the money is going to you,

1638
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 6: I think you can be mad about that.

1639
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 4: I think that's totally laughing.

1640
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 5: And if you really want to scorch earth sue, sure

1641
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 5: that's a thousand bucks back. You know, you could not

1642
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 5: be angry at everyone if you get a thousand bucks

1643
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 5: out of it. But those are memories.

1644
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, that's definitely hard. Ten years and partying with

1645
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 6: that stuff, that sounds really hard.

1646
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 5: I wish I had a friend that really liked rocks,

1647
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 5: because every time with their birthday, I just give them

1648
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 5: a rock.

1649
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 1: I just been so easy. You know exactly what they want.

1650
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, boom, there's a rock.

1651
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it'd be easy to make it memorable too,

1652
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 4: Like this is a rock from when we did this.

1653
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 4: I knew you'd really like it, and.

1654
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 5: It's literally just the one that you picked up the

1655
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 5: side of the road before you got us. That's what

1656
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 5: I would do.

1657
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: Anyway, let's get back a edit.

1658
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 5: My family didn't mean to still, they just assumed I

1659
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 5: was giving them away. It wasn't necessarily malicious, but it

1660
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 5: was definitely wrong. Also, I think the reason I'm struggling

1661
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 5: to be mad is because me and my mom have

1662
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 5: a really good relationship. She's the person I can always

1663
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 5: rely on. I'm really hoping the situation is the misunderstanding

1664
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 5: I see as it is. Thank you for all your replies.

1665
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 5: I haven't had anyone talk to about this all days,

1666
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 5: since my friends are all busy and the other people

1667
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 5: around me are my family at it too. My parents

1668
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 5: are well off, so I don't think they sold them

1669
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 5: for the money. Any money made was probably put into

1670
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 5: household funds, and I doubt they made one thousand dollars

1671
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 5: off the items. That's just how much I've estimated I've spent.

1672
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 5: I would feel very guilty to ask them for that much,

1673
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 5: especially since they are paying for my college. So I'm

1674
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 5: thinking about maybe asking them to buy something of equivalent value,

1675
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 5: and the little rocks for a big rock.

1676
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 4: There's one big rock.

1677
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,839
Speaker 5: One big rock. I've never had to bargain with my parents,

1678
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 5: so I'm not sure how this will go down. I'm

1679
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 5: going to talk to them tonight since my dad is

1680
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 5: here now. I'm going to take the advice of riding

1681
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 5: something out to each to them. All the people saying

1682
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 5: I'm a pushover or one hundred percent correct, but I'm

1683
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 5: going to try not to when I talk to them,

1684
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 5: and we have an update of him talking to the parents.

1685
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 1: Go, Okay, I think it will I.

1686
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 5: Think they'll be I think everyone will be sad.

1687
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I see myself in Ope in a way,

1688
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 6: the people pleasing part of me. I totally see that

1689
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 6: I have. I've learned to let myself get angry. You know,

1690
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 6: I think like it's probably the kind of thing where

1691
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 6: it's like, you know, you do understand the situation, and

1692
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 6: you know it's no one's fault, but you're still mad

1693
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 6: about it. And because you know no one's fault, you

1694
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 6: feel like you can't be mad at them, but let

1695
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 6: yourself be a little upset. Yeah, take some time away

1696
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 6: from these people, come back to it.

1697
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:52,799
Speaker 1: When you're a little more settled.

1698
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 5: That's true, you know that's true. But I think I'm also, yeah,

1699
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 5: having a hard time that you have like two cabinets

1700
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 5: full of rocks and you found on them. You don't ask, oh,

1701
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 5: what should we do with them? Just sell them? You

1702
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 5: just get rid of them.

1703
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I guess how did.

1704
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 5: The parents not know that he had a collection of

1705
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 5: the stuff? Well he did, Because why do they still

1706
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 5: go over. Do we know gender I'm saying, I think

1707
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 5: mal okay.

1708
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: OP.

1709
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 6: He was saying that they were moving away to college

1710
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 6: and that the brother could have like whatever he wanted.

1711
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 5: The brother was looking after the rock collections for him.

1712
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, that's what that's what OP he was hoping for.

1713
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 6: I think the misunderstanding.

1714
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: OP.

1715
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 6: He was saying that the family thought that since the

1716
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 6: brother could have whatever he wanted and OP, he wasn't

1717
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 6: taking all the rocks with them, then they assumed that

1718
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 6: they were.

1719
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 4: He was just getting rid of all of them and

1720
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 4: seeing what the brother wanted.

1721
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 5: First he gave the rocks to the brother to look after,

1722
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 5: and then some for some reason, the brother was like,

1723
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 5: you can sell everything. We don't want any I don't

1724
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 5: wantnything to do with it.

1725
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you'd be mad at the brother.

1726
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 4: He's peasy, there's your person.

1727
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 5: It's just one of those things. Yeah, that's what your

1728
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 5: dad says.

1729
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: One of those things. Yeah, you're right.

1730
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 5: Here's the update. I just talked with my parents and

1731
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 5: I use kind of a long speech and included some

1732
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 5: specific memories I had connected to the rocks and asked

1733
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 5: to be compensated financially for the loss. I was crying

1734
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 5: the whole time, so I'm not sure how much of

1735
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 5: it they understood. Surprisingly, they are completely willing to pay

1736
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 5: me back for it, and my parents were both completely

1737
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 5: sorry and admitted it was their faults.

1738
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 4: Wow, that's so good.

1739
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 5: It's crazy. I didn't know like parents could have some

1740
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 5: sense in this on this platform, right. They told me

1741
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,839
Speaker 5: that they were surprised that I didn't want the rocks,

1742
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 5: but at the same time I was giving away other

1743
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 5: sensible things like stuffed animals that they thought that I

1744
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 5: would have kept. Because of this, they didn't think to

1745
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 5: call me to confirm since the times they had with

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01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 5: other things I had agreed. They said they are going

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01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 5: to get everything back from my aunt and brother. My

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01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 5: mom has already rounded up what she took, and they

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01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 5: want to take me rock shopping the rest of the

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01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 5: weekend I have with them together.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's so sweet.

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01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 5: That's super sweet. Wow, just some rocks to take to college.

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01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 5: That's really really, that's a cute. Maybe there's going to

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01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 5: be a geologist one. Maybe this has been such a

1755
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 5: chaotic day for me and I have never expected so

1756
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 5: many people to reach out for those suggestions that I

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01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 5: am looking into therapy good because of Rocks.

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01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,799
Speaker 4: I yeah, I feel like that's okay because.

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01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 5: You were Rocker, Opie. I think that my issues with

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01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 5: confrontation and social pressure in general warrant some professional help.

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01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 1: Yep.

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01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 5: My dad actually notes that he was proud of me

1763
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 5: for bringing it up to them the way I did

1764
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 5: all I'm going to be a combination of mad and

1765
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 5: sad for a while, but now it isn't stuck inside

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01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 5: of me. Thank you for everyone for pushing me to

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01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 5: talk to them up front. I probably wouldn't have done

1768
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 5: it without your helps. Relevant comments. Trey Botch says that

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01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 5: they still from you then sold these stolen goods. They

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01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 5: have given you the proceeds of the cell. I'd say

1771
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 5: in your opinion of them not bad people is wildly incorrect.

1772
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 5: Only bad people still from the child. This person, oh man.

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01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 4: This person has been on Reddit for a while.

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01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 5: This person has hurt. This person needs therapy too. One

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01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 5: more comment, Black Stars Blue says you should blame them.

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01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 5: They don't have phones and FaceTime. Nobody called you to

1777
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 5: ask anything. Your family is incredibly inconsiderate and I'm sorry

1778
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 5: your collection was destroyed. Op He says, this is honestly

1779
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 5: the part that hurts me the most. To me, it

1780
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 5: would have taken like two minutes to call me, and

1781
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 5: my parents have taken me to go buy rocks countless time,

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01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 5: so I don't understand why they didn't think the second

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01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 5: check sad face emoji opie. My parents thought I was

1784
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 5: giving them away, so they weren't trying to steal for me.

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01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 5: It really doesn't change how hurt I am, but it

1786
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 5: makes me feel bad to have them for it. I'm

1787
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 5: starting to feel like I'm underreacting, but I'm really conflicted

1788
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 5: since they provided for me and everything, which I know

1789
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 5: doesn't justify anything, but still Bubblegum Crash says it's okay

1790
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 5: to be mad, and said, have you had a conversation

1791
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 5: with your brother to let him know that you meant

1792
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 5: for him to look after them, so I just enjoy them,

1793
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 5: not that they were his to give away. Let him

1794
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 5: know you're sorry you weren't more clear that that was

1795
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 5: the case, but that you're upset about it and that

1796
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 5: it's going to take some time for you to get

1797
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 5: over your parents too. I know that in the scheme

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01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 5: of things is rocks. I had a lot of memory

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01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 5: in my collection. I am just going to be a

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01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 5: little sad and a little mad that they're gone. I

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01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 5: know it's anyone's fault, and I'm not blaming anyone when

1802
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 5: it's not so raw. Maybe see if your family will

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01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 5: be willing to go with you to get a few

1804
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 5: new rocks that are tied to new memories or left friends.

1805
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 5: Know you're rebuilding your collection slowly so you can keep

1806
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 5: them with you. OPI thank you for your reply, for

1807
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 5: understanding they really aren't evil people, and you're correct that

1808
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 5: it's a misunderstanding. Some part's my fault, some parts of theirs.

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01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 5: I'm going to use your response when I talk to them.

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01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 5: I struggle with confrontation, so if I don't have a plan,

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01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 5: I probably won't be clear. And you can be clear

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01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 5: as they with us every week day at three PMPST.

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01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 5: Just tap our profile, Just tap it, and we have

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01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 5: one more rather comment. This is sweet. I love this.

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01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: This is sweet.

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01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 6: I think some people on Reddit are expecting Reddit type stories, yeah,

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01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 6: where the worst.

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01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: Happens, But I think this is a really sweet story.

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01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 5: Yep. Yeah, and as Andrew Dad says, at least we

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01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 5: know the Rockers.

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01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 6: That's funny. Yeah, it seems like it. It seems like all

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01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,959
Speaker 6: that stuff was kind of addressed and resolved.

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01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but everything's good now you got new rocks happening.

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01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, going to find more rocks. That's so nice.

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01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 5: Hopefully we get a rocking update one day. Yeah.

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01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 4: Yeah. That's it. That's it. That's stand with out story.

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Speaker 5: So if you love us, make sure to subscribe.

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Speaker 4: We love you and see you tomorrow.