WEBVTT - GMFB Thursday Hour 2: Stafford to Raiders? Brock Purdy extension? Will Browns trade Myles Garrett? 0:00:04.428 --> 0:00:06.668 Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 0:00:06.748 --> 0:00:16.148 partnership with iHeartRadio. 0:00:22.228 --> 0:00:23.908 Good Morning Football. 0:00:24.188 --> 0:00:26.548 That's right, this is Good Morning Football. Welcome inside, everybody. 0:00:26.588 --> 0:00:29.748 We're love in LA and Indianapolis today because it is 0:00:29.788 --> 0:00:33.268 the first official day of on field drills in the 0:00:33.388 --> 0:00:36.108 NFL Scouting Combine. It's Thursday of every twenty seventh. I'm 0:00:36.148 --> 0:00:40.948 Jamie at Allmantiiteo, Peter Schrager, Cody Kessler at the table. 0:00:41.188 --> 0:00:43.868 But actually, Peter, in hindsight, that was a bit of 0:00:43.868 --> 0:00:48.068 a mistake. I didn't know this kicking Specialty Exposition was 0:00:48.068 --> 0:00:49.308 happening yesterday. 0:00:49.388 --> 0:00:54.068 That was a cool deal, really cool. Kickers usually get 0:00:54.388 --> 0:00:56.428 no love here at the combine, punters usually coming to 0:00:56.468 --> 0:00:58.068 just get the run forties. They actually got to do 0:00:58.188 --> 0:01:01.188 the actual drills. Pat McAfee hosted a very cool way 0:01:01.228 --> 0:01:03.148 to start off the combine and there was a great 0:01:03.188 --> 0:01:06.068 turnout that will be a fixture for years to come. 0:01:06.108 --> 0:01:08.388 So kickers and punters getting the love too, Jamie, we 0:01:08.548 --> 0:01:10.268 like to show all the love here at the network. 0:01:10.428 --> 0:01:10.708 M h. 0:01:11.108 --> 0:01:13.948 Indeed, we do and all love meaning that we don't 0:01:13.948 --> 0:01:16.668 just focus on guys working out this weekend. We have 0:01:16.708 --> 0:01:19.428 to pay attention to news around the NFL and of 0:01:19.468 --> 0:01:22.988 course current players. Rams head coach Sean McVay hung out 0:01:23.028 --> 0:01:25.788 with two of his friends, Fits and Wits on their 0:01:25.868 --> 0:01:29.228 podcast as the Rams and the coach lay out the 0:01:29.308 --> 0:01:33.148 situation that they face right now with their quarterback, Matthew Stafford. 0:01:35.348 --> 0:01:38.148 There's no dispute and let's not get it twisted in 0:01:38.188 --> 0:01:41.308 regards to anybody wanting him to be our quarterback. Ultimately, 0:01:41.348 --> 0:01:43.428 you're saying, hey, there's a ton of interest because this 0:01:43.468 --> 0:01:47.508 guy's an incredible player, and we've had conversations where he 0:01:47.548 --> 0:01:50.508 could probably play over much longer once, but it's been on. 0:01:50.468 --> 0:01:53.308 A year to year in terms of our dialogue. Is 0:01:53.348 --> 0:01:54.308 that one? Is that too? 0:01:54.388 --> 0:01:56.828 Only he can answer that, But there does have to 0:01:56.868 --> 0:01:59.068 be an element of understanding, well, what does that future 0:01:59.068 --> 0:02:01.748 look like without this freaking g that's been our quarterback 0:02:01.788 --> 0:02:03.188 for the last four years. 0:02:03.428 --> 0:02:06.188 And there's no right or wrong way to go about it. 0:02:06.188 --> 0:02:07.628 But I do think for us to be able to 0:02:07.668 --> 0:02:10.748 make the most educated decision in terms of all, right, 0:02:10.908 --> 0:02:14.268 you know, the cash budget that we operate on, the 0:02:14.348 --> 0:02:16.348 draft comp that you would get in return, you know, 0:02:16.388 --> 0:02:17.748 you just need to be able to have all the 0:02:17.788 --> 0:02:20.348 parameters to at least explore it. He and I have 0:02:20.428 --> 0:02:23.548 had great dialogue throughout this process. I know where we 0:02:23.588 --> 0:02:25.588 want it to be able to end up. But these 0:02:25.588 --> 0:02:28.068 decisions aren't made in a vacuum, and that's kind of 0:02:28.068 --> 0:02:29.268 the challenging part about it. 0:02:30.588 --> 0:02:32.908 McVeigh just calls it like he sees it. Peter and 0:02:32.948 --> 0:02:35.828 Tom pellasero. The guy's been a g a quarterback for 0:02:35.868 --> 0:02:38.268 the Rams, and of course there's no dispute. He wants 0:02:38.308 --> 0:02:40.588 him to stay at that position. But Peter, sometimes the 0:02:40.628 --> 0:02:42.588 books don't lay out that way. What do you two 0:02:42.668 --> 0:02:44.068 make of mcveigh's comments. 0:02:45.948 --> 0:02:48.668 Yeah, well, look, Shawn has always been very transparent in 0:02:48.708 --> 0:02:51.068 his love for Matthew Stafford, but he was also very 0:02:51.068 --> 0:02:55.268 transparent in that the numbers might not make sense long term. 0:02:55.388 --> 0:02:57.188 Well for the short term. Do we find a way 0:02:57.188 --> 0:02:58.828 to fix it year to year or is this the 0:02:58.948 --> 0:03:01.148 year you rip the band aid off and you mix 0:03:01.188 --> 0:03:05.308 things up. As we know, Stafford's agent, Jimmy's, was given 0:03:05.908 --> 0:03:08.588 full ability by the Rams to go just seek out 0:03:08.628 --> 0:03:10.508 and see what the market would be as far as 0:03:10.588 --> 0:03:13.868 numbers go for Matthew Stafford on the open market, as 0:03:13.868 --> 0:03:15.828 if he was a free agent. But then things have 0:03:15.868 --> 0:03:18.788 accelerated this week. Tom Pellet, Sara's with me here today. 0:03:19.668 --> 0:03:23.508 Lots of reports yesterday, lots of conflicting reports yesterday. There 0:03:23.588 --> 0:03:25.708 also have been some teams mentioned. Why don't we give 0:03:25.708 --> 0:03:29.188 a thirty thousand foot view of where things stand? And 0:03:29.268 --> 0:03:32.188 also the different individuals and teams involved right up to 0:03:32.228 --> 0:03:36.068 the minute, including all interactions at local coffee shops here 0:03:36.108 --> 0:03:36.988 in Indianapolis. 0:03:37.068 --> 0:03:38.868 Well, let's start here with what you said, which was 0:03:38.948 --> 0:03:41.428 the RAMS gave Jimmy Sexton a couple of weeks ago 0:03:41.508 --> 0:03:43.468 commission to go and talk to other teams. So there 0:03:43.468 --> 0:03:46.948 have been ongoing dialogue with Matthew Savage agent Jimmy Sexton, 0:03:47.348 --> 0:03:49.628 multiple other teams, and the RAMS. 0:03:49.708 --> 0:03:51.148 Everybody's trying to figure this out. 0:03:51.348 --> 0:03:53.348 Part of this was the RAMS wanted to know if 0:03:53.388 --> 0:03:57.668 Stafford comes back into if Shefford is going to come 0:03:57.708 --> 0:04:01.068 back to the RAMS, what is that contract going to 0:04:01.108 --> 0:04:01.508 look like? 0:04:01.668 --> 0:04:04.908 In other words, what number would make sense? Find that out? 0:04:04.948 --> 0:04:06.228 Is if you talk to the our teams and know 0:04:06.468 --> 0:04:08.228 what's behind door number two, and you heard me Fay 0:04:08.228 --> 0:04:10.228 talk about it, it's like, hey, we can get a second 0:04:10.308 --> 0:04:13.668 round draft pickback and clear forty fifty million dollars from 0:04:13.708 --> 0:04:17.068 our cash budget, maybe spend that elsewhere. Kirk Cousins is 0:04:17.108 --> 0:04:18.988 maybe gonna pop free and be at the minimum. We 0:04:19.028 --> 0:04:20.828 can bring back Jimmy Garopolo. There's a lot of different 0:04:20.828 --> 0:04:24.028 options here, but the Giants are certainly a team to watch. 0:04:24.028 --> 0:04:26.268 In all this, they have a clear quarterback need. It 0:04:26.308 --> 0:04:28.708 would make a ton of sense from the Giants perspective. 0:04:28.708 --> 0:04:30.788 Matthew Stafford had to figure out it makes sense for 0:04:30.908 --> 0:04:33.108 him to go there because he's got effective veto power. 0:04:33.108 --> 0:04:35.508 He doesn't have a no trade card, not that anybody 0:04:35.548 --> 0:04:38.428 who is gonna make it us money so effectively has 0:04:38.548 --> 0:04:40.948 no trade cluse. The Raiders are another team, and you 0:04:41.028 --> 0:04:43.708 mentioned some conflicting reports yesterday. 0:04:44.348 --> 0:04:45.788 Here's one thing that did happen. 0:04:46.068 --> 0:04:50.148 Matthew Stafford and Tom Brady, the Raiders minority owner as 0:04:50.188 --> 0:04:51.988 we now call him, also the greatest quarterback of all time. 0:04:51.988 --> 0:04:54.308 It's trying to be reducing the Raiders owner. 0:04:54.348 --> 0:04:58.988 Now they both have property in an exclusive ski resort 0:04:59.188 --> 0:05:01.908 in Montana. There's a bunch of people there, like Bill 0:05:01.948 --> 0:05:05.028 Gates has a place there, Mark Zuckerberg and obviously certain 0:05:05.108 --> 0:05:07.628 NFL people who also have made two hundred plus million 0:05:07.628 --> 0:05:11.068 dollars in their careers. Those guys ran into each other recently. 0:05:11.428 --> 0:05:14.468 They did talk, they did spend some time together. Didn't 0:05:14.468 --> 0:05:15.308 playing for the Raiders? 0:05:15.348 --> 0:05:18.508 Come up? Who's this set? He didn't, But it wasn't. 0:05:18.348 --> 0:05:21.828 Tom Brady flying in Matthew Stafford hosting him on the. 0:05:21.988 --> 0:05:24.188 Visited see them at his house. 0:05:24.588 --> 0:05:27.388 I mean, maybe there's maybe there's some people in this 0:05:27.508 --> 0:05:29.628 world who trade out trips for favors. 0:05:29.668 --> 0:05:30.148 I don't know. 0:05:30.388 --> 0:05:32.108 Maybe sometimes you get a little gift basket. 0:05:32.108 --> 0:05:32.508 Who knows. 0:05:32.708 --> 0:05:36.268 But this was something that was not quite to the 0:05:36.348 --> 0:05:37.948 extent that certain people wanted to be. 0:05:38.148 --> 0:05:39.188 You could end up with the Raiders. 0:05:39.188 --> 0:05:42.548 It's certainly a possibility. Tom Brady's very persuasive, but there's 0:05:42.588 --> 0:05:44.948 a lot of moving parts here. And ultimately, let's remember 0:05:45.068 --> 0:05:47.428 the Rams still hold the card. If they just say, 0:05:47.548 --> 0:05:48.988 you know what, We're not going to trade you. We 0:05:48.988 --> 0:05:51.348 looked at all the options. You're not going anywhere. That 0:05:51.388 --> 0:05:53.188 Matthew Safford has to figure out, Okay, do I take 0:05:53.188 --> 0:05:55.188 the best offer they get or do I say I'm 0:05:55.228 --> 0:05:55.988 gonna sit out. 0:05:56.268 --> 0:05:58.388 That scenario is hard to envision, but we'll see. 0:05:58.388 --> 0:06:01.268 There's so many layerses. But the ugly letter is the 0:06:01.348 --> 0:06:03.628 t letter, and it's tampering, So where does that come 0:06:03.628 --> 0:06:06.588 into this thing? He was given permission to speak with agents, 0:06:06.628 --> 0:06:08.188 So like, where do we stand? 0:06:08.348 --> 0:06:09.628 Well, remember four years here. 0:06:09.668 --> 0:06:12.268 You also have to have the team pushed charges for tampaing. 0:06:12.308 --> 0:06:13.868 It has to come from the Rams. 0:06:14.028 --> 0:06:18.788 Four years ago, Stafford was traded after being in Cabo 0:06:18.868 --> 0:06:20.628 with Sean McVay, and the Lions. 0:06:20.308 --> 0:06:22.708 Were happy with that trade, so they didn't push for that, right. 0:06:22.708 --> 0:06:24.668 So the Rams then coming back after they've given Jimmy 0:06:24.668 --> 0:06:28.068 Sexton permission, would seem like this would probably be a 0:06:28.508 --> 0:06:30.828 you know a little bit much to pursue tampering charges. 0:06:30.908 --> 0:06:33.228 But let's be clear, you can't talk directly to the 0:06:33.268 --> 0:06:35.308 player unless you're given permission to do that. It doesn't 0:06:35.308 --> 0:06:38.068 salent the Rams have given that permission. Tom Brady, Matthews, 0:06:38.068 --> 0:06:39.988 saverndor an Indo train. This is honestly the gray area 0:06:40.388 --> 0:06:44.188 with Tom Brady, which is is he broadcaster Tom Brady. 0:06:43.948 --> 0:06:45.268 Plays the ex player Tom Brady? 0:06:45.348 --> 0:06:49.228 Is he Raiders by nor I'll say this, tom Brady 0:06:49.268 --> 0:06:53.028 has a lot of authority in that Raiders building. Anything 0:06:53.068 --> 0:06:56.068 that he is doing is at the be hesse. I 0:06:56.108 --> 0:06:58.748 would think of trying to make the Raiders better. So again, 0:06:58.868 --> 0:07:01.668 did it come up in conversation. I can't say I 0:07:01.908 --> 0:07:05.908 don't own a place there. I'm several hundred million dollars short. 0:07:06.348 --> 0:07:07.948 I think one day maybe I'll run into him on the. 0:07:07.948 --> 0:07:10.508 SI you'll get there. Listen a couple more layers to this, though. 0:07:10.628 --> 0:07:13.588 The whole thing was Stafford. Obviously, you know what's his value. 0:07:13.628 --> 0:07:17.788 What's the team would have to trade a pick, maybe 0:07:17.908 --> 0:07:20.788 some other veterans and pay him that new number. So 0:07:20.948 --> 0:07:23.388 it's not like he's a pure free agent that it's like, hey, 0:07:23.668 --> 0:07:25.548 we could give you fifty five million, come aboard. The 0:07:25.628 --> 0:07:27.108 Rams don't want to do that. They would still to 0:07:27.148 --> 0:07:29.028 give a pick and maybe even a player or two. 0:07:29.708 --> 0:07:32.548 The Giants are a team. We're hearing the Raiders are 0:07:32.548 --> 0:07:35.108 a team. We're hearing the Steelers early on. We're a team. 0:07:35.108 --> 0:07:37.268 I'm hearing not as much about the Steelers right now. 0:07:37.548 --> 0:07:41.628 And to your point, Stafford, Kelly, his wife, they're four kids. 0:07:42.028 --> 0:07:44.668 They would have to be open to going to that location. 0:07:45.188 --> 0:07:47.988 Stafford's brother in law, Chad Hall, is now the assistant 0:07:48.028 --> 0:07:50.628 wide receivers coach of the New York Giants, And of 0:07:50.708 --> 0:07:53.948 course Vegas is so close to Los Angeles. That's a 0:07:54.028 --> 0:07:57.268 forty minute flight. Kelly and the girls could technically still 0:07:57.348 --> 0:08:00.588 live and have their Los Angeles life, and Stafford could 0:08:00.588 --> 0:08:01.948 go back and forth if he were to go to 0:08:02.028 --> 0:08:05.508 the Raiders. So interesting layers to this. The end result, 0:08:05.588 --> 0:08:07.668 He's still a ram. As we are on TV now, 0:08:07.788 --> 0:08:09.948 and as the drills go on today, this will be 0:08:09.988 --> 0:08:12.108 a topic that we'll all be talking about, and is 0:08:12.148 --> 0:08:15.268 what happens in all these hallways and all these hotel, 0:08:15.788 --> 0:08:17.388 local bakeries and whatnot. 0:08:17.148 --> 0:08:21.228 Else exactly all right, here's what I've learned. Here's what 0:08:21.268 --> 0:08:22.508 I've gleaned from this conversation. 0:08:22.748 --> 0:08:23.828 That it seems like. 0:08:23.988 --> 0:08:27.028 Trade conversations can occur in things like a chalet and 0:08:27.108 --> 0:08:29.228 a cabana, and you can't get in trouble for it. 0:08:29.588 --> 0:08:32.268 None of us have enough money to participate in any 0:08:32.308 --> 0:08:34.468 of these recreational activities in the off season. 0:08:34.548 --> 0:08:35.268 Did I get it right? 0:08:36.268 --> 0:08:39.148 Don't say that we're getting there. We're working hard the show. 0:08:39.628 --> 0:08:42.868 We just got syndication rights. We're doing all right, Jamie, 0:08:42.868 --> 0:08:43.468 We're hanging in. 0:08:43.948 --> 0:08:45.428 Let's go. You're right, Peter. 0:08:45.588 --> 0:08:48.388 We check your local listings for GMFB overtime. Here we go, 0:08:48.548 --> 0:08:51.948 Matthew Stafford, buzz, Let's keep this conversation rolling Cody Kessler. 0:08:52.188 --> 0:08:56.228 Being a California kid, you have worked out adjacent to Stafford. 0:08:56.308 --> 0:08:58.268 You also know the impact that he's had on his 0:08:58.388 --> 0:09:00.788 teams that he has played for, both in Detroit and LA. 0:09:01.028 --> 0:09:03.668 What do you make of these conversations. Maybe from both 0:09:03.748 --> 0:09:06.308 sides of it, there's a business and there's a effect 0:09:06.428 --> 0:09:08.068 that this could have on both the team. 0:09:07.948 --> 0:09:08.388 And the player. 0:09:08.588 --> 0:09:11.628 Yeah, one hundred percent. And earlier in this week, even 0:09:11.748 --> 0:09:15.428 with the talks of Stafford speaking to other teams to 0:09:15.428 --> 0:09:17.508 getting the permission to do so, I was still fully 0:09:17.548 --> 0:09:19.188 convinced he was going to be in Los Angeles this 0:09:19.308 --> 0:09:21.828 next season. I'm not quite there anymore. I'm getting a 0:09:21.868 --> 0:09:23.548 little worried. But I will say this, from the football 0:09:23.588 --> 0:09:26.828 side of things, Matt Stafford, in my opinion, is one 0:09:26.908 --> 0:09:28.588 of still, at thirty seven years old, one of the 0:09:28.628 --> 0:09:31.348 most talented players in the NFL right now, especially when 0:09:31.388 --> 0:09:33.748 it comes to arm talent. When you pair that up 0:09:33.948 --> 0:09:37.428 with his experience, his toughness, his leadership ability. For this 0:09:37.588 --> 0:09:39.908 young roster that the Rams have right now, it makes 0:09:39.948 --> 0:09:41.788 so much sense to just keep him there. I know 0:09:41.868 --> 0:09:43.788 the numbers also have to make sense, that's the big thing. 0:09:43.948 --> 0:09:47.468 But he took this young roster to Philadelphia, was one 0:09:47.508 --> 0:09:50.268 play away and bad weather to going to the NFC 0:09:50.388 --> 0:09:52.548 Championship game. And this was a team early on in 0:09:52.628 --> 0:09:54.468 the season that a lot of people rode off. 0:09:54.508 --> 0:09:54.628 Right. 0:09:54.708 --> 0:09:56.588 I think if you go out and find a new quarterback, 0:09:56.588 --> 0:09:58.388 whether you go get a young quarterback, whether you go 0:09:58.468 --> 0:10:01.308 get a veteran someone that's proven, you're doing a disservice 0:10:01.348 --> 0:10:03.788 to your football team. Because when you have a young roster, 0:10:04.108 --> 0:10:07.068 it is it's so important to have stability at key positions. 0:10:07.228 --> 0:10:10.188 That number one spot is the quarterback. You have Matthew Stafford, 0:10:10.308 --> 0:10:12.508 like I said, one of the most talented in the NFL. 0:10:12.788 --> 0:10:15.348 You also had a great combination between Nick Bay and 0:10:15.388 --> 0:10:17.988 Stafford outside of Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, probably the 0:10:18.028 --> 0:10:22.148 best play color quarterback combination combination in the entire NFL. Right, 0:10:22.188 --> 0:10:23.788 And if you just break that up after they won 0:10:23.828 --> 0:10:25.628 a Super Bowl together, I just think you'd take a 0:10:25.708 --> 0:10:29.028 massive step backward backwards if you were the Los Angeles Rams. 0:10:29.068 --> 0:10:30.708 So I don't know what that number looks like for 0:10:30.788 --> 0:10:32.668 Matt Savad, I don't know what he wants. I just 0:10:32.748 --> 0:10:34.148 think they need to find a way to get some 0:10:34.228 --> 0:10:36.148 common ground and get a chance to revamp and go 0:10:36.188 --> 0:10:37.908 back in twenty twenty five and make another run at 0:10:37.948 --> 0:10:38.228 the title. 0:10:38.308 --> 0:10:40.588 Yeah, talk about numbers and values, and I'm so glad 0:10:40.628 --> 0:10:42.188 you made that that reference, Cody. 0:10:43.468 --> 0:10:45.388 A few days have gone by, I looked at all. 0:10:45.308 --> 0:10:47.828 The narratives kind of surrounding this whole Rams transaction in 0:10:47.868 --> 0:10:50.548 Matt Stafford, and it kind of reminds me of the 0:10:50.548 --> 0:10:51.068 stalk market. 0:10:51.108 --> 0:10:52.828 They're kind of treating it like the stock market. 0:10:52.868 --> 0:10:55.508 They understand that they have an asset, which is Matt Stafford, 0:10:55.828 --> 0:10:57.948 and he's at his max value right now. It's at 0:10:57.988 --> 0:10:59.868 a value where he can win you a lot of games, 0:10:59.908 --> 0:11:01.228 and he can take you to a super Bowl. Matter 0:11:01.268 --> 0:11:02.748 of fact, he won you a super Bowl, and we 0:11:02.868 --> 0:11:04.788 talked earlier in the week that he was one play 0:11:04.828 --> 0:11:07.948 away from getting it into the NFC Championship and possibly 0:11:08.068 --> 0:11:08.788 this go again. 0:11:09.308 --> 0:11:09.468 Now. 0:11:10.308 --> 0:11:14.988 The Rams also understand that that value can only go 0:11:15.148 --> 0:11:17.988 down with age. He's not going to get any younger, 0:11:18.188 --> 0:11:20.788 and there's a market right now that is in desperate 0:11:20.908 --> 0:11:24.708 need of a quarterback. So I think there are teams 0:11:24.788 --> 0:11:27.668 out there that may be so desperate that talk about 0:11:27.708 --> 0:11:30.388 prices and numbers that they might present the Rams with 0:11:30.508 --> 0:11:32.868 the price that could set them up for short and 0:11:33.148 --> 0:11:35.988 long term success. And I think right now where the 0:11:36.068 --> 0:11:37.988 Rams are sitting is they're just trying to figure. 0:11:37.748 --> 0:11:40.068 Out what that price for other teams will look like. 0:11:40.148 --> 0:11:41.788 How desperate are these teams going to be? 0:11:42.228 --> 0:11:45.468 Now, do the Rams want to get rid of Matt Stafford? Definitely, 0:11:45.508 --> 0:11:46.988 they don't want to get rid of Matt Stafford. 0:11:47.028 --> 0:11:49.428 But if there is a desperate team that will give. 0:11:49.348 --> 0:11:53.388 Them the proper pieces and the compensation that can set 0:11:53.468 --> 0:11:56.148 them up for short term and long term success, I mean, 0:11:56.188 --> 0:11:58.348 it might be something for them to entertain right because. 0:11:58.108 --> 0:12:00.708 They're the rare situation right now where they're young and 0:12:00.908 --> 0:12:04.188 they're good. Their defensive draft last year was off the charts. 0:12:04.268 --> 0:12:06.988 You still have Poka Nukua coming into his own and 0:12:07.068 --> 0:12:10.228 they decided to move on from Cooper Cup this offseason. Peter, 0:12:10.348 --> 0:12:12.028 I'm gonna ping it back out to you. For as 0:12:12.108 --> 0:12:15.148 much as there is the conspiracy theory talk about conversations 0:12:15.188 --> 0:12:17.988 that are going on in Chalais in Montana, there's also 0:12:18.108 --> 0:12:21.108 some conspiracy theory that's happening with the fact that Malibu 0:12:21.348 --> 0:12:23.948 is a town that sits very close to Woodland Hills, 0:12:24.028 --> 0:12:27.548 where the Rams practice who would be the contingency plan 0:12:27.908 --> 0:12:31.228 for the Rams? And why does it rhyme with shmarn Rogers. 0:12:33.108 --> 0:12:34.068 I mean it it would. 0:12:34.388 --> 0:12:37.028 I mentioned this on Tuesday on the show, and they 0:12:37.148 --> 0:12:39.268 like set off this like crazy windfall, but it's an 0:12:39.268 --> 0:12:42.988 obvious connection. Malibu is home to Rogers. He's currently looking 0:12:43.068 --> 0:12:46.588 for a suitor. We hear that he's actually been outright, 0:12:46.948 --> 0:12:49.708 you know, saying that he still wants to play, and 0:12:50.028 --> 0:12:52.108 Los Angeles would make a lot of sense if they 0:12:52.148 --> 0:12:54.468 were to move on from Stafford. The issue is, of course, 0:12:54.588 --> 0:12:56.588 what does he want? What is his money? If you 0:12:56.668 --> 0:12:58.388 think about it this way, and if you're trying to wait, 0:12:58.468 --> 0:13:01.028 if you're the Rams, you've got Stafford who's gonna want 0:13:01.028 --> 0:13:02.388 a little bump and pay. And I you know, the 0:13:02.508 --> 0:13:04.588 number I throughout earlier was fifty million. Outs think it 0:13:04.588 --> 0:13:06.868 would get to fifty million with the Rams necessarily, but 0:13:07.028 --> 0:13:08.988 if he's going to a new team, it would be 0:13:09.028 --> 0:13:11.228 around fifty million. That's what I've been hearing just from 0:13:11.228 --> 0:13:13.988 other teams and what the numbers have been. So you're 0:13:14.028 --> 0:13:16.548 gonna pay Stafford that and then we just kind of 0:13:16.628 --> 0:13:18.028 kick the can along and we see if we can 0:13:18.028 --> 0:13:19.428 get to a Super Bowl. And then he's thirty eight 0:13:19.508 --> 0:13:22.028 next year. Or do you tear it down now to 0:13:22.108 --> 0:13:27.348 what Mantai is saying, trade Stafford, get draft picks in return, 0:13:28.108 --> 0:13:30.588 and then spend a lot less on a guy like 0:13:30.708 --> 0:13:33.308 Aaron Rodgers who is four years older and hasn't had 0:13:33.348 --> 0:13:35.828 the last couple of seasons that Stafford has, and then 0:13:35.908 --> 0:13:37.988 you have room to maybe bring in another free agent 0:13:38.068 --> 0:13:42.548 wide receiver to including potentially Devonte Adams. You start weighing 0:13:42.668 --> 0:13:44.548 what this is and it's like, well, we know what 0:13:44.628 --> 0:13:47.028 we got in this hand with Stafford. We love Stafford 0:13:47.108 --> 0:13:49.268 and he's a fricking g as. 0:13:49.188 --> 0:13:49.668 What you know. 0:13:49.788 --> 0:13:52.508 McVeigh calls him. We know what we got. Are we 0:13:52.668 --> 0:13:54.668 gonna be able to compete and get to a Super Bowl? 0:13:54.708 --> 0:13:54.948 We can? 0:13:55.628 --> 0:13:57.708 Or do we look to hey, what can we get 0:13:57.748 --> 0:14:00.148 in exchange? But to me, if you're going to Rogers, 0:14:00.628 --> 0:14:03.068 you're not resetting the clock. You're going to Rogers at 0:14:03.108 --> 0:14:05.068 forty one. And is it not the same boat that 0:14:05.108 --> 0:14:08.228 you are in with Stafford? I don't know. So you 0:14:08.308 --> 0:14:09.948 look at it that way. And then there's this third 0:14:09.988 --> 0:14:12.548 option of you go to Jimmy Garoppolo for about ten 0:14:12.628 --> 0:14:14.868 to twelve million dollars and you say, we could spend 0:14:14.948 --> 0:14:16.868 all the money in the world and get a draft pick, 0:14:17.068 --> 0:14:19.068 and if Sean thinks he can win with Jimmy, well 0:14:19.108 --> 0:14:20.948 then you're kind of really playing with fire and you 0:14:20.988 --> 0:14:23.468 say let's go to war with that. I think right now, 0:14:23.548 --> 0:14:25.628 as we sit here, I think Stafford still wants to 0:14:25.668 --> 0:14:27.388 be a RAM. I think the Rams still wants Stafford. 0:14:27.428 --> 0:14:29.588 I think money is the issue. At at some point, 0:14:29.868 --> 0:14:31.908 figure it out. Let's roll it back one more year. 0:14:31.988 --> 0:14:34.908 Peter, one more question. When they decided to move on 0:14:35.388 --> 0:14:37.708 from Cooper Cup, that has to be a conversation that 0:14:37.828 --> 0:14:40.428 includes Matthew Stafford, right, because it seems like everyone's on 0:14:40.588 --> 0:14:43.028 good terms. But that is a guy that he worked 0:14:43.068 --> 0:14:45.828 with four years. So is Stafford in the understanding that 0:14:46.188 --> 0:14:48.588 that was a financial decision and he hass to accept 0:14:48.628 --> 0:14:50.868 the future of this team is without Cooper Cup? Like, 0:14:50.948 --> 0:14:52.468 how did that conversation go down? 0:14:52.548 --> 0:14:53.628 And he must have been included. 0:14:55.708 --> 0:14:57.548 I don't think he was included with the decision. I 0:14:57.588 --> 0:15:00.108 think he was informed of the decision. But Stafford and 0:15:00.148 --> 0:15:02.388 Cupp are as tight as it comes, and I don't 0:15:02.388 --> 0:15:05.668 think he was necessarily punching the air upset. He understands 0:15:05.668 --> 0:15:08.788 it's a business. But I don't think less Snead Kevin 0:15:08.828 --> 0:15:11.388 Demoff and Sean McVay or sitting Matthew Stafford down and 0:15:11.428 --> 0:15:13.068 saying should we bring Cup back? I think at this 0:15:13.188 --> 0:15:16.308 point it's business and those guys get paid to do that. Stafford, 0:15:16.308 --> 0:15:17.708 I don't think was in on that decision, and I 0:15:17.708 --> 0:15:19.628 think that's almost better off. You don't want him to 0:15:19.628 --> 0:15:22.428 be put in that position and say, hey, we're thinking 0:15:22.428 --> 0:15:24.228 about bringing back your guy. Are you okay if we 0:15:24.548 --> 0:15:26.428 trade him? That puts him in a really tough spot. 0:15:26.428 --> 0:15:29.028 All right, Cody, let's focus on those words contingency plan 0:15:29.148 --> 0:15:32.828 at the bottom of the screen. You have watched poetically 0:15:32.868 --> 0:15:36.228 about Sean McVay. Great play caller, great young coach. Can 0:15:36.308 --> 0:15:38.628 he get Jimmy Garoppolo to a place where this team 0:15:38.828 --> 0:15:40.788 can play to the level that they expect to within 0:15:40.828 --> 0:15:41.988 their division and their conference. 0:15:42.508 --> 0:15:44.388 That's the biggest question mark, you know, really, But when 0:15:44.388 --> 0:15:47.068 you have a mind like Sean McVay, like Kyle Shannan, 0:15:47.188 --> 0:15:49.348 guys like that, and Shanahan went to the Super Bowl 0:15:49.428 --> 0:15:52.468 with Garoppolo, it's a little bit of a different offense, 0:15:52.708 --> 0:15:54.108 and some of the pieces are a little bit different. 0:15:54.108 --> 0:15:56.108 I understand that, but where you need to build no 0:15:56.188 --> 0:15:57.988 matter who your quarterback is on the defensive side of 0:15:58.028 --> 0:15:59.788 the ball, and they're starting to do that. I can 0:15:59.828 --> 0:16:02.428 tell you personally at from you know being a former quarterback. 0:16:02.588 --> 0:16:04.068 When your run game is working and you have a 0:16:04.108 --> 0:16:06.428 great defense, it makes your life a lot easier. So 0:16:06.748 --> 0:16:09.148 if they can build around they do let Stafford go 0:16:09.308 --> 0:16:10.908 right right. They trade them to let them walk, and 0:16:11.348 --> 0:16:13.308 they do go with Garoppolo as long as they build 0:16:13.348 --> 0:16:15.348 a great run game and a great defense around him, 0:16:15.348 --> 0:16:16.948 and that's where they use their money in free agency. 0:16:17.228 --> 0:16:18.988 I don't see why not. It's just a big if 0:16:19.028 --> 0:16:21.148 and I'm on board with shregs. Like I said earlier, 0:16:21.428 --> 0:16:22.988 I think they find a way to get the deal done. 0:16:22.988 --> 0:16:25.388 I think Stafford, even being thirty seven, I don't want 0:16:25.388 --> 0:16:26.708 to say prime, but he's still one of the better 0:16:26.788 --> 0:16:28.948 quarterbacks in the NFL. I would love to see him 0:16:28.948 --> 0:16:30.028 back in Los Angeles next year. 0:16:30.148 --> 0:16:31.788 There are only a few teams that I think in 0:16:31.868 --> 0:16:35.148 this NFL that have a system that really caters through 0:16:35.148 --> 0:16:37.508 a quarterback. The Vikings are one of them, the forty 0:16:37.588 --> 0:16:39.628 Niners are another, and the La Rams are the third. 0:16:39.748 --> 0:16:42.668 I think whenever you're a quarterback like Jimmy Garoppolo, and 0:16:42.748 --> 0:16:45.628 you're paired up with somebody like Sean McVay. Sean McVay 0:16:45.788 --> 0:16:48.268 only does right by his quarterbacks. It doesn't matter who 0:16:48.308 --> 0:16:52.868 you are. So regardless of Garoppolo's past and his performances 0:16:52.908 --> 0:16:55.948 and all of that stuff, when I think of Sean McVay, 0:16:56.188 --> 0:16:58.628 I always am going to be optimistic about it because 0:16:58.628 --> 0:16:59.948 of the things that he's done in the past. 0:17:00.228 --> 0:17:03.228 I would chime in that, you know, when Stafford was injured, 0:17:03.828 --> 0:17:06.268 Brett Rip didn't played a game up in up in 0:17:06.388 --> 0:17:09.988 Green Bay, did not go well. We saw of course 0:17:10.108 --> 0:17:12.268