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Speaker 1: One of my children bit another kid at school.

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Speaker 2: So as as somebody who loves your kids, what did

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Speaker 2: the other kid do to deserve it?

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Speaker 3: Is my question.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm telling you. I so.

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Speaker 4: About a year ago, we went to uh this little

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Speaker 4: play place in the mall and Adler and Keaton were

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Speaker 4: running around. One of the reasons we love this play

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Speaker 4: place is that it's perfectly enclosed. The kids are totally

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Speaker 1: Take off their leash let them run in there. You

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Speaker 1: don't even have to put a helmet on them. They're fine.

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Speaker 4: And then on the outside are all these tables and

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Speaker 1: And so we had let the kids go.

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Speaker 4: And run around, and then all of a sudden, Adler

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Speaker 4: and Adler's like screaming, bloody murder. And it's a different

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Speaker 4: but like, okay, I can tell you're playing. Adler was

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Speaker 4: top of him and picked up Adler's arm and bit

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. So first he pounced and then he bit.

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Speaker 4: And I don't I don't see the bite because it's

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Speaker 4: bit him. And as she's saying this, Adler's holding up

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Speaker 4: his arm and I see teeth marks in his arm

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Speaker 4: I go, I look at the kid who bit and

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Speaker 4: I go, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Just a totally like justin.

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Speaker 4: I did not even have time to think of it,

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Speaker 4: just natural reaction. The mom who's not the mom of

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Speaker 4: the bier goes, okay, no need to shame the child.

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Speaker 3: Oh god.

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Speaker 4: And first of all, I'm a little like maybe there

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Speaker 4: this kid, this is how he's gonna learn not to bite.

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Speaker 4: I shouldn't shame, but I'll so like just me saying,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, didn't really feel super shaming, but sure whatever. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, well, can you just give me a

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Speaker 4: second to process what just happened. My kid just got bit.

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Speaker 4: So of course I pick up Adlar.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, are you okay? And he's like, man, all

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Speaker 4: The family ends up coming over and saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: This is he's in a new school we're visiting. He's

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Speaker 4: This sumone at school is a bier and he's learning

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Speaker 4: I think they were just letting us know he doesn't

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Speaker 4: So they leave. Now it was so traumatizing for Adler.

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Speaker 1: That time that that kid bit me? That was really scary.

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Speaker 4: oh gosh, Jensen gets a phone call from Keaton's school.

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Speaker 4: Keaton bit a friend name it was a nameless friend

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Speaker 4: at the time and broke skin.

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Speaker 1: We were like, what happened?

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Speaker 4: they don't tell you who who whenever some whenever your

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna call it hippo rules. They don't tell you

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Speaker 4: friend exactly friend friend.

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Speaker 1: These friends are still friends.

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Speaker 4: But so this morning I have to talk to Keaton

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Speaker 4: about it and I say, so, who you know who

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Speaker 1: And he goes, I don't want to tell you, and

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Speaker 4: It turns out it's his best friend. Are very good friends,

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Speaker 4: Michelle and Poria's son, who you guys know because they

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Speaker 4: I had to have a very long conversation with Keaton

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Speaker 4: about how absolutely incredibly serious biting is that even if

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Speaker 4: very and I reminded him. I was like, don't you

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Speaker 4: remember when that kid tackled your brother please and bit

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Speaker 1: It was like traumatizing, and.

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Speaker 4: Keaton had this whole thing, but I was a spy

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Speaker 4: but I had to It was like no, never ever. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Pinky promised me you'll never bite anyone again. So anyway,

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Speaker 4: I'm I just feeling that in one year I went

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Speaker 4: from shaming a child for biting to being the mother

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have a serious question though, Okay, are either

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Speaker 3: Or garlic. At this point, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Just some basic questions, right, you know what You're not

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Speaker 1: wrong to ask?

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Speaker 5: Walking around with pop callars, Yeah, exactly, sleep the time

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Speaker 5: they want to move to Seattle, there's they're glittering exactly.

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Speaker 3: Also, you mentioned something that was a little triggering for me.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm going to be totally honest with you.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever told either you or

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Speaker 3: To keep to myself.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, but I was a leash child.

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Speaker 7: Wait wait, wait, I was harness was actually run your

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Speaker 3: It was the body harness, seventies leash thing.

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Speaker 6: I don't even know there were around in the seventies.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they started in the seventies. I don't

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Speaker 6: I saw it was like in the nineties because yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I Wilfredell was a leash child.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So because you were a sprinter, you were a darter.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know what it was.

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Speaker 2: I think it was just by the third kid, just

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Speaker 2: easier to leash the kid up, tie me to a

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Speaker 3: So you know I was a leash kid.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: So when you said the leash like take put on

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Speaker 2: because no one wore helmets of the seventies.

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Speaker 1: Of course not.

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Speaker 2: It's like, hey, then throw the kid in the back

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Speaker 3: But no, I was a leash child.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Wow, Indy had a friend who would just run, like.

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Speaker 6: Did you have that like radar to stay near his parents?

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Speaker 5: He would just disappear, So they had to start writing

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Speaker 9: What about a dog?

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Speaker 3: Airt who sponsored us?

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Speaker 1: So don't we have an air tag sponsor somebody like that? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we sure do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if your if your child runs away on pod

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Speaker 2: Meats World.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's so funny. Welcome to pod Meets World. I'm

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Speaker 1: Daniel Fishel, I'm rather strong, and I'm Wilford.

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Speaker 4: what he thought. Now approaching Friday Night Light's twentieth anniversary, so.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod meets World.

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Speaker 4: Ready to throw a perfect spiral to our hearts.

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Speaker 1: It's Zach Gilford.

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Speaker 2: Zach, are you.

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Speaker 8: Guys are so professional with your setups? I got this

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Speaker 8: stupid death though?

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Speaker 1: Is that a bunch of booze in the top left?

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Speaker 8: Don't worry about what's in the top.

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Speaker 6: To some breakfastin.

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Speaker 8: It's not using. It's just there for later.

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Speaker 1: Zach, thank you so much for hanging out with us.

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Speaker 4: We have been trying to get you on the podcast

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Speaker 4: for a while because we often talk about modern day

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Speaker 4: equivalents to Boy Meets World, and the best example we

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Speaker 9: Well, that's way too kind because y'all show is like

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Speaker 9: iconic to me and people don't even know my character.

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Speaker 1: Name, So no, that's not true.

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Speaker 4: Actually, have you accepted that the first line of your

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Speaker 4: obituary will probably say Saracen.

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Speaker 8: It will probably say like Sorensen or something like that. No,

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Speaker 8: it's like people they're like Matt Scarison. I'm like, enough.

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Speaker 5: Now we still get like Boys meets Boys, get the

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Speaker 4: that they decided to bring in the storyline of a murder.

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Speaker 8: Well, no, actually it was season one. In the finalite,

445
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 8: they have no so they do the whole murder, okay.

446
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Speaker 9: And I remember reading it and talking to Sarah auvery

447
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 9: one of our producers, and I wasn't involved in it.

448
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 8: That I was like, this seems like a bit of

449
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 8: a stretch, I know, but we just.

450
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Speaker 9: Think and we just we really wanted a world where

451
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,239
Speaker 9: we really linked Tyra and Landry together because we just

452
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 9: love those two characters together, and we thought we'd give

453
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 9: it a try. And she told me before permiere, she

454
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 9: was like, you're gonna be really happy. We had to

455
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 9: cut the murder storyline, like it just didn't fit in

456
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,239
Speaker 9: the finale. I was like, oh, thank goodness. And then

457
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 9: we go back for a season two. They're like, but

458
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 9: we loved it so much. So this poor guy that

459
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 9: they murdered in the finale season one, not poor guy,

460
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 9: he got paid again, but like he had to come

461
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Speaker 9: in and get murdered again.

462
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Speaker 4: Okay, it was a pretty flawless show. Up until the

463
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Speaker 4: point of that storyline, and then it was pretty universally

464
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 4: agreed this was not good and so how.

465
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Speaker 1: Did they just move on from that?

466
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Speaker 4: Like, let's pretend that didn't happen and not mention it again.

467
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Speaker 2: SOWANSI lands the motorcycle after he jumps the shark.

468
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Speaker 3: That's how you keep going totally.

469
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Speaker 8: I think it's It's one of the beauties of TV

470
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Speaker 8: is you can.

471
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Speaker 1: Just yeah, ten things didn't happen right right.

472
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Speaker 9: And you know we we wel always ust around. Like

473
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Speaker 9: I said, we got to improv a lot, and so

474
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 9: often in scenes.

475
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 8: For the duration of the show, we'd be, you know,

476
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 8: shooting some scene in the locker room or something and

477
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 8: just out of know everything.

478
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 9: Oh hey, hey, remember when you murdered that guy?

479
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 8: That was crazy. I'm glad you got away with it.

480
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 4: I want to talk to you about I want to

481
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 4: flatter you a bit, because it is true. You play

482
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 4: Saracen with such a subtle under just a really subtle performance,

483
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 4: and you have a lot of layers. When I have

484
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 4: worked with young actors who aren't super experienced, the usual

485
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 4: go to is they turn it up to eleven and

486
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 4: we're always trying to bring people back. How did you

487
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 4: just kind of instinctually or how did you know to

488
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 4: play so many off layers and emotions?

489
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Speaker 9: Ah, Man, I don't know. I think I think again,

490
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 9: I think I got lucky. I think I'm very scared

491
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 9: to do anything over the top.

492
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: Ever, okay, me too, Not true, Not true.

493
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 8: So I just try to underplay everything.

494
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 9: And you know, after a while, as you guys know

495
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 9: so well on TV, you know your character so well,

496
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 9: and on the pilot even we got rewrites, you know,

497
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 9: at that point they were slid under our hotel room

498
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 9: door and it was blue pages, yellow pages, whatever. And

499
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Speaker 9: I remember going up to Pete Bergen saying, Hey, I

500
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 9: think can we talk about these rewrites? And he was

501
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 9: like huh, And I was like, I just feel like

502
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 9: you gave me too many lines, Like this kid doesn't

503
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 9: talk a lot, and like now he's like and he

504
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 9: was like, what are you talking about.

505
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Speaker 8: It's like the rewrits we got to goes. Don't read those,

506
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 8: We're not gonna shoot those.

507
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 9: Those are just for the studio because they don't understand

508
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 9: what's going on, so we have to spell it out.

509
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 8: So often.

510
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 9: And I think a lot of this trick down obviously

511
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 9: from Pete, and then Jeffrey Ryaner who I was, who

512
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 9: was our producing director, took over and I think really

513
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 9: took the baton from Pete really well.

514
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 8: But Kyle was great about it, where you would get

515
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 8: these long, page long.

516
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 9: TV monologues that just really laid pipe and explained everything,

517
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 9: just to make sure the audience really understood what was

518
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 9: going on inside of a character. And Kylo would be like,

519
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 9: I'm just gonna say this one sentence, that's it. I'd

520
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 9: be like, you're right, that is all we need. I

521
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 9: had this one, I think it was season two. My

522
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 9: dad comes back from you know, Iraq or something, and

523
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 9: I just remember being in the he's like working as

524
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 9: a used car sales and I got him the job

525
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 9: and I go up and there's been all this friction

526
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 9: and they gave me this whole long.

527
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 8: Thing and and part of one line was like Dad,

528
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 8: look at me. I'm a man now. And I was

529
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 8: just like, oh god, I'm not going to say that.

530
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 9: And like what it boiled down to was on said

531
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 9: I just said, Dad, I got this, and they're like, yeah,

532
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 9: that's all we need. That's great, that explains it. So

533
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 9: I think we liked that in that. But really I

534
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 9: think a lot of us learn from Kyle just how to, like,

535
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 9: you know, explain, not explain the show what's going on

536
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 9: with a character, not by explaining it, which I don't know.

537
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 8: It was the tone of the show. I learned so

538
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 8: much from it. I think one of my strengths now

539
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 8: when I'm working is being able to.

540
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 9: Boil things down kind of like cut some fat. And

541
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 9: I've been really lucky to work with a lot of creators,

542
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 9: a lot of writers who are very open to it

543
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 9: and very much know, like this thing has gone through

544
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 9: so many drafts and you know the characters so well,

545
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 9: and now we're collaborating with you. So it's it's always

546
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 9: fun for me to see, like how how how few

547
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 9: lines can I say across when I have one? One

548
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 9: director I worked with several times and I love him,

549
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 9: and he was like, I also do this thing where

550
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 9: a lot of times I'll be like, I don't think

551
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 9: I need to be in this scene.

552
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 8: I mean, you know you're gonna have to shoot so

553
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 8: many angles. I don't think I'm important and you could

554
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 8: get out of here in two hours instead of four.

555
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 8: And he was like, Zach is the only actor I've

556
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 8: ever met who doesn't want to act.

557
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so far you've said there's too many lines.

558
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 3: I don't need to be in the scene. These are

559
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: things on no actors Bengo card Ever.

560
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 8: I think I also just did so much because that

561
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 8: was a football shuttle. So there's so many scenes where

562
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 8: you're in them but not in them. It's like it's

563
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 8: in the locker room there, you gotta be there.

564
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 9: So I mean, if I don't know how much you'll

565
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 9: actually see, but there's so many scenes where you'll probably

566
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 9: see me in the background just tying my shoe, yeah,

567
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 9: and then walking out.

568
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 8: I'm like, if I mean, I don't know what I'm doing.

569
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: I come in, I grab an apple, and I leave.

570
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. I put on my shoulder pads and so

571
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 8: I did.

572
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 9: I recently was directing in an episode of something that

573
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 9: I was working on, Criminal Minds, and I told our idea.

574
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 9: I was like, I want in the background one of

575
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 9: these FBI agents to stop and tie their shoe.

576
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: That's what happens in real life we have.

577
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was like, I don't want you to tell

578
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 8: me who it is. I just wanted to happen. It's

579
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 8: gonna be like a game of where's Waldo? For me?

580
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 9: And it was just like this game that we played

581
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 9: and it so is like in the background I can

582
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 9: see it. I'm so mad because in the cut I

583
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 9: see the guy walk in and start to bend down

584
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 9: and just at the angle you can't see it happen.

585
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 9: It was a really fun game we played.

586
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 5: So you were you guys improv all through all five seasons.

587
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 5: You were always allowed to like sort of yeah, I

588
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 5: mean that that sets you up. I mean I think

589
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 5: that's amazing. But there are a lot of sets where

590
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 5: they don't want that. So have you run into the

591
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 5: problem of like trying to do it on another set

592
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 5: and like they'll be like, say, what's written?

593
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, and a little bit. I will say most most sets.

594
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 9: I have not been on Gilmore Girls, Oddly enough, I did.

595
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 9: I auditioned for Aaron Sorkin one, and this feedback was like,

596
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 9: good job, you knew all the lines.

597
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 3: Well, that's what it takes to be on a narrow

598
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: sorcin show.

599
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you talk and say all the lines at

600
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: the same time.

601
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 3: Great, you're an actor, baste. Yeah, that's it.

602
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 9: But most people love to collaborate and they like really

603
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 9: respect what actors bring to it, and I think I'm.

604
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 8: Very fortunate to be a point in my career where

605
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 8: people know, like they know who I.

606
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 9: Am and they think I know what they're getting. And

607
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 9: I always try to now as opposed to just mess around.

608
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 9: Like there's certain things on set where like I just

609
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 9: it's in the moment I'm like, oh, this is what

610
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 9: needs to happen, or it's ever like I'm just going

611
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 9: to change the scene.

612
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 8: What's happening right now. The real thing that happened would

613
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 8: be this.

614
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 9: But I try to like go through it and do

615
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 9: my homework before and go to the give them the

616
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 9: respect of like, hey, I want to change this to this.

617
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 8: I kind of want to do that.

618
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 9: I'm feeling here, I'm going to have this kind of

619
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 9: impulse and they're usually like, all right, great, let's see

620
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 9: what happens.

621
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 8: I do remember I didn't know this.

622
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 9: But so I just finished my run on Criminal Minds

623
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 9: and it was such an amazing set and they were

624
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 9: very open to my way of working, which was great

625
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 9: for me. And apparently they call it rehearsal Zach because

626
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 9: I don't rehearse. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, what

627
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 9: is the point I'm not going to do this until

628
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 9: the cameras are running. They're like, and I'm just like,

629
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 9: I make fun of the lines the whole time if

630
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 9: we're rehearsing, which is kind of just like a jerk

631
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 9: move on my part.

632
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 8: But so apparently during we had had we were on

633
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 8: set and.

634
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 9: There was one line and I came up to Eric

635
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 9: our show and I was like, hey, Erica, hey this line.

636
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 9: She's like, You're not going to say it. I was

637
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 9: like yeah, She's like I could tell on the table

638
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 9: read you were.

639
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 8: Never going to say it. I said, I'm literally during

640
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 8: the table because it was on zoom, she said. I

641
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 8: turned to the director. I was like, he's never going

642
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 8: to say this line.

643
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 9: And then the funny thing is I didn't make the connection,

644
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 9: but I was so a j Cook, who's one of

645
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 9: my co stars, was joking about rehearsal Zach and this

646
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 9: was during the finale, and I was like yeah, and

647
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 9: I said the story about the table reach. He goes,

648
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 9: was it the line something about and I was like yes,

649
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 9: She's like that was my episode. I remember in the

650
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 9: table read, Eric attorney to me and be like, he's

651
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 9: never going to say it.

652
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: Bother Oh my gosh, that's so funny.

653
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 4: Another similarity between Friday Night Lights and Boy Meets World

654
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: is that we were both told that we were.

655
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: Always on the bubble. It must have.

656
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 4: Been very I mean we've heard nah since then that

657
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 4: we weren't as much on the bubble as.

658
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: We were told.

659
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: We didn't know that.

660
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 4: We did not know that. And literally, at the end

661
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 4: of every season, it was a big who knows, fingers crossed,

662
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 4: maybe we'll get to do another season.

663
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Speaker 1: Were did you have that same feeling? Were you always

664
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: nervous at the end of a season?

665
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 8: Oh? Yeah, I mean I think we are canceled twice.

666
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 9: And then I think it was and then a bunch

667
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 9: of people sent Light Bulbs to NBC because they were.

668
00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 8: Owned by ge at the time.

669
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 9: I don't know if they still Oh, and there was

670
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 9: this ground swell which helped. And then so season's four

671
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 9: and five, Direct TV swooped in and they basically took

672
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 9: over half the cost of production and they got to

673
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 9: air it first on DirecTV in the fall, and then

674
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 9: it aired on NBC in the spring. So the last

675
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 9: two seasons, we knew we had two more seasons and

676
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 9: that was the end. But yeah, it always was like man,

677
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 9: I hope. I you know, as much as I wanted

678
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 9: to do the show, I also was like I just

679
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 9: need to.

680
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: Plan my rent in my yeah and got bills.

681
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

682
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 8: And it was me.

683
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 6: You were always critically doing incredibly well right like.

684
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 9: And it was really annoying, but it was like, I

685
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 9: feel like more people watch it now than did then,

686
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 9: and you know, they are a sour grapes about like

687
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 9: I think our first season we premiered on Tuesdays and everyone's.

688
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 8: Like, how could you put Friday Lights on Tuesdays? That's

689
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 8: confusing and I'm.

690
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: Like, really your calendar.

691
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: But ways, there another similarity that our shows have is

692
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: the fandom, because Friday Night Lights has a rabid fandom.

693
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: So have you had an opportunity, I mean we've we've

694
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: been really lucky in doing some conventions and things like

695
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: that where we can really get in there and interact

696
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: and see how much the show has impacted people. Have

697
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: you had that opportunity to kind of be with some

698
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: of your fans and realize how important Friday Night Lights

699
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: was to them?

700
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 9: I mean just in like passing people coming up to

701
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 9: me and stuff. I haven't done any consent or anything.

702
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: I have tried to get Zacha Khan agent.

703
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 8: I'm gonna do my first one, okay in Detroit next month.

704
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 8: But I've gone.

705
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 9: I have a friend who does them a lot, and

706
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 9: I've gone and visited her just to like break break

707
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 9: it up for her. And it is funny like people

708
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 9: they get so confused you.

709
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 8: I'm like, no photos are free with me.

710
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm just here for the fun of it.

711
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 8: I'm just here. I'm a big fan to hold the football. Yeah, exactly.

712
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 4: You shared so much of your storyline with Landry, who

713
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 4: was played by a young, very green actor named Jesse Plemmons.

714
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 4: Your chemistry was so real, so believable. What do you

715
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 4: think made that such a good partnership between you two him?

716
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 9: I mean, I always say, and I don't mean this jokingly,

717
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 9: like I lucked out on that show so much because

718
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 9: most of myself was with Jesse or Kyle or my grandmother.

719
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kyle Chandler who played the coach.

720
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, and we went Stevens, Who's like I loved this

721
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 9: day and just like we had this. I was like

722
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 9: protective over her and she would bring me newspaper clippings

723
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 9: from Dallas.

724
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 8: Where she lived.

725
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 9: If I was in the newspaper, and she was just phenomenal.

726
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 9: But Jesse and I, I don't know, we just hit

727
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 9: it off. And I remember during the pilot I told

728
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 9: because he's from Texas, he's from Waco, and I was like, hey, man,

729
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 9: if my accent sounds stupid or fake or whatever, like,

730
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 9: please tell me.

731
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 8: He's like, okay, he.

732
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 9: Never did it, thankfully, but we just hit it off

733
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 9: and we're still like super close friends to this day.

734
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 9: And I remember when we were shooting the pilot in

735
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 9: the first week, during like prep, he had an episode

736
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 9: of Gray's Anatomy that was gonna air where he was

737
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 9: like something that made his face look like a lion.

738
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 9: I don't know, oh crazy anatomy.

739
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 8: So I was like, oh, I should watch this episode.

740
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 8: I remember watching him like, oh my god, this kid

741
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 8: is so.

742
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: Good, right, even with the lion face.

743
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, even with the lion face, I could see I

744
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 9: can see the boy beneath the lion face, and yeah,

745
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 9: he just was so good.

746
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 8: And we just hit it off.

747
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 9: And he's such an old soul. I mean, this makes

748
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 9: me sound like a loser, but you know, I think

749
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 9: he was seventeen or eighteen when we shot.

750
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 8: It, and I was like twenty two. Or twenty three.

751
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 8: But yeah, we were.

752
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 9: Just like super close, those super fast friends. And he's

753
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 9: so funny man. Like again, I feel like I'm edited

754
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 9: out of those scenes so often because I couldn't keep

755
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 9: a straight face and due to the improv and it lends.

756
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 8: Itself so well to his character. He could just say

757
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 8: the randomest things, but they were so within character that

758
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 8: you're just like.

759
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 6: What are you talking about.

760
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 9: I was to be here and like go with it.

761
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 9: And the one thing I couldn't I couldn't realize watching

762
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 9: it back a couple of years ago, some of the

763
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 9: things that we got to say I am embarrassed and offended.

764
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 8: By, Like we had to drop the R word. Not

765
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 8: got to, but we would like drop the R word,

766
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 8: like you'd say something stupid.

767
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 9: I'm like, you're really right, and I'm just like this

768
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 9: was on NBC.

769
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 8: Oh my god. So yeah, I don't know.

770
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 9: We just had like an instant chemistry. He's such a

771
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 9: good guy. He's just the most amazing person to be

772
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 9: in a scene with. And I remember I've seen probably

773
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 9: all of his work, but I remember watching Killer the

774
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 9: Flower Moon and just being so proud of him.

775
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 8: Nothing I need to, but he's just in scenes with.

776
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 9: De Niro and DiCaprio, just like holding his own like, yeah,

777
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 9: I should be here, you should be good for you

778
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 9: so great.

779
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 4: Oh, I know we saw Scott Porter at your daughter's

780
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 4: birthday a few years ago.

781
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: So are you guys still close to Yeah.

782
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 8: We're still good buddies. Him and I have always been like.

783
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 9: We lived together for part of the first season because

784
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 9: I was off. I used to lead like backpacking trips

785
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 9: or high school kids, and that going into the first

786
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 9: season after the pilot I worked in I worked in

787
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 9: New Zealand leading trips for kids, and I was there

788
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 9: for months, and so I literally flew from New Zealand

789
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 9: to Texas, you know, a day before we started shooting.

790
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 9: I had like a duffel bag and I hadn't gone

791
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 9: down and figured out a place to live. So I

792
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 9: slept on his couch for like a month, and we

793
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 9: just got really tight. And then the last season two

794
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 9: and three or season two, I forget when he left,

795
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 9: but we were roommates.

796
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're just like very brotherly.

797
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 9: And we actually were at the final network test together,

798
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 9: which was an odd one.

799
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 8: I don't think they usually do it this.

800
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 9: Way, but they were testing like six roles, and so

801
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 9: we're in a conference room and it's me and football

802
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 9: Boy and you know, it was Minka and whoever else

803
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 9: was testing for her part, Annie, whoever was testing for

804
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 9: her part. Jesse was not there, Amy was there, Scott

805
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 9: was there, and maybe Guias and whoever else we're testing

806
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 9: for their roles and you're kind of there. You're like

807
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 9: getting to know people because you're sitting there for hours

808
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 9: and you're being nice to the person you're testing again,

809
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 9: but you don't really want to get to know them, right,

810
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 9: And me and Scott hit it off, and he had

811
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 9: been flown in from New York, and I was like, do.

812
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 8: You need a ride home?

813
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 9: And I didn't know that wasn't something you really did

814
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 9: in LA, right because I didn't live here, and so.

815
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 8: I gave him right home.

816
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 9: We're like, you know, I feel like it should be

817
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 9: that person and that person, and we named everyone, including me,

818
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 9: but we were wrong about me.

819
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 8: But we got But yeah, we've headed off ever since,

820
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 8: Like the testing process.

821
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: That's so funny.

822
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 4: I can only imagine people kind of freak out when

823
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 4: they see QB one and QB two out together.

824
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, well always QB two always.

825
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 4: There have been whispers over the last year or so

826
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 4: about a possible reboot. Would you be willing to come

827
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 4: back and play a coach or what could you tell

828
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 4: us about that?

829
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 8: I mean, I know nothing about it.

830
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 9: All I know is it's Pete and it's Jason Catoms, who.

831
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 8: Is our head writer for the run of the show.

832
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 8: So and I know it's I know it's meant to

833
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 8: be a complete reboot where it's just the same concept,

834
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 8: but it's a different town. It's I think there was

835
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 8: like a hurricane that's ravaged. I don't know, I've just

836
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 8: heard whispers. As far as I know, none of us

837
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 8: are supposed to be involved because it's supposed to be all.

838
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: New, like a whole thing.

839
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, if there was an authentic version where Matt Sarason

840
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 8: showed up for some reason, okay, cool.

841
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 9: But I think the beauty of that show was that

842
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 9: it felt so real, like so many of us left

843
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 9: the show.

844
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 8: And Pete had planned that at the beginning, because he

845
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 8: was like.

846
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 9: This is about a high school football team in the

847
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 9: community around it, and people graduate and they leave, some don't,

848
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 9: but a lot of you do. And so a lot

849
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 9: of us left the show. And I think if we

850
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 9: just found reasons to keep all of us around for

851
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 9: five seasons or whatever. I would have taken away from it.

852
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 9: And I think to just like have all of us

853
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 9: cameo on the show might seem a little wonky and

854
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 9: take away from it. The funny thing was, you know,

855
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 9: the first season, we all assumed that Taylor was a senior,

856
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 9: and like because he was best friends with Jason Street,

857
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,959
Speaker 9: it was a senior blah blah blah, and then nothing

858
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 9: against it. I love Taylor and his characters great. In

859
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 9: season two, it's like, oh, he's on the football team again.

860
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 9: I guess he was a junior last year. And then

861
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 9: it was season three and we're like, oh, you're still.

862
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

863
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 8: What a loser I was because I was treating this

864
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 8: guy like he's two years older than me, but apparently

865
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 8: we're peers.

866
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 4: I also wanted to ask you about your numerous collaborations

867
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 4: with Mike Flanagan and Netflix.

868
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: You were also in a Purge movie. You did you

869
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: like horror movies before all of this?

870
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 9: You know, I like good movies, and we're such like,

871
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 9: I've come to learn such a huge umbrella. I think

872
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 9: growing up, I just thought it was like slasher films,

873
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 9: like the thirteenth third we're in Elm Street. But you know,

874
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 9: it's just all sorts of films, and I do know

875
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 9: like with Flanning In I had seen Haunting a Hell

876
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 9: House and thought it was amazing, and I remember binging

877
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 9: it like the holiday weekend, the Halloween weekend it came out,

878
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 9: and so when I got that audition, it was, you know,

879
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 9: super top secret. All I had was the sides. I

880
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 9: had no idea anything about the show, and so I

881
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 9: just had to like memorize these two scenes, go in

882
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 9: and do them and hope for the best, knowing absolutely nothing,

883
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 9: and working with him was so awesome. Like he is again,

884
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 9: he's someone who really wants you to memorize his lines.

885
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 8: He's very much in a tour and to fear them

886
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 8: all out.

887
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 9: And I knew that going in, So when I would

888
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 9: do my homework, I would send him screenshots or photos

889
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 9: of like my notes and say.

890
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 8: Can I change this? Can I do that nine ten

891
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 8: times out of ten? And he'd be like, that's great,

892
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 8: go for it. All good. And he has.

893
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 9: Everything shot listed, as I know most directors do, but

894
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 9: like super shot listed, where he makes this huge poster

895
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 9: board that's out for the whole crew to see, so

896
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 9: everyone knows exactly what's gonna happen all day. But at

897
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 9: the same time, if he had planned a scene where

898
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 9: I'm standing in the corner, my dad comes in and

899
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 9: we're talking, and then I was like, I feel like

900
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 9: I'd be sitting on the bed, like why am I

901
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 9: standing in the corner, he'd be like, and it totally

902
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 9: changes the cameras.

903
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 8: He just yeah, you're right, okay, and like change it

904
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 8: all up.

905
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 9: My one favorite thing with him was when I did

906
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 9: follow the House Usher with him. There was these lines

907
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 9: where my character is saying a poem in bed to

908
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 9: his wife, and I guess I'm dumb because I thought

909
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 9: it was just a poem that my character was making up.

910
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 9: And I write Mike and I was like, you know,

911
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 9: I feel like it would flow better if it was

912
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 9: diplay And I said that, and he's like, yeah, that's

913
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 9: an actual word poem.

914
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 8: We're gonna go ahead and give it the way it is.

915
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 10: Knew what he was doing, but anyway, I was like, oh,

916
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 10: I want to read the rest of this poem, and

917
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 10: I googled it and I was like, well, Mike, I'm

918
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 10: sorry to tell you this, but you guys.

919
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 9: Wrote the poem wrong them really, that's like I wasn't

920
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 9: exactly right, but my version is closer to the real thing.

921
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 8: That fair enough, fair enough.

922
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: That's so funny.

923
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 4: I mean these projects have like twenty five minute one shots.

924
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: What is it? What is it like working on something

925
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: like that?

926
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 8: You know, I've always been really lucky.

927
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 9: Memorizing lines is pretty easy for me, and that's kind

928
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 9: of the first step for me is I know my

929
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 9: stuff so that then I can just like do something else,

930
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 9: or if the lines work perfect, I can just do

931
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 9: them and be interacting with people as opposed to like

932
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 9: I mean, it drives me nuts when actors don't. Yeah,

933
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 9: like as an actor, as a director, I'm like, oh god, please,

934
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 9: like just.

935
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 8: Know your lines.

936
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: Yes, this is the one your one job, the one thing.

937
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 8: My biggest thing I learned in college.

938
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 9: I had a professor and he was like, know your lines,

939
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 9: know you're blocking, and don't bump into the furniture.

940
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 8: That's all you have to do. And it's like kind

941
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 8: of true. But yeah, those one ares they're so fun.

942
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 8: I mean they're like a play and you go through

943
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 8: it a lot.

944
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 9: And we had this one where I remember midnight mass

945
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 9: our Big Wonner was on a beach with all these

946
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 9: dead seagulls and it's going through all the people of

947
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 9: the town. And yeah, we rehearsed it like four times.

948
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 8: We shot it. I think we got it in like

949
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 8: five takes, because once you get.

950
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 9: It, you're like, well, we were we gonna we just

951
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 9: did it. We're not gonna cut anywhere, so like let's

952
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 9: move on. And that scene actually was it was the

953
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 9: day my son was due to be born, and so

954
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 9: they're like, we got you set up, like we've got

955
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 9: Wi Fi over there, so if you need to FaceTime you.

956
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 8: Know, the birth of your child.

957
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 9: And I was just like, because it was during the pandemic,

958
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 9: and like we shot in Cannon all this stuff, and

959
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 9: luckily he took a while to come so I didn't

960
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 9: have to run away from set. But I also was like,

961
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 9: what am I gonna just like in the middle of this,

962
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 9: Wonner be like, sorry, guys, can everyone is like.

963
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: Give me give me two hours?

964
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 8: Two hours, we can shoot this tomorrow.

965
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 9: Right, It all worked out, But really, so much of

966
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 9: that is like on the steady cam operator. I sorry,

967
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 9: I'm so bad with names and his years ago, but

968
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 9: I'm pretty sure his name was James, and this guy is.

969
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 8: Just like he does.

970
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 9: He's done all of Mike's big one ers and he

971
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 9: It really makes you realize, if you haven't already, how

972
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 9: much the cameraman are just like the unsung heroes set

973
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 9: and obviously there because you're doing this dance with them

974
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 9: and figuring it out where you need to be and

975
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 9: where they need to be and how to like go

976
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 9: at a pace where like they can keep up with you.

977
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 8: It keeps the frame right.

978
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 9: But then even when I started directing, my kind of

979
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 9: like Mentor had told me he was like Jamie on

980
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 9: this set, he's like your secret weapon because he he's like,

981
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 9: don't call cut when the scene's over, like he'll find

982
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 9: like a transition for you or he'll just like make

983
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 9: the shot go somewhere where you can use it in

984
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 9: the edit.

985
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 8: And and it's and it was such a great little

986
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 8: tibit of knowledge.

987
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 9: That they just find so much cool stuff. And then

988
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 9: I love, like my favorite thing. We do a lot

989
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 9: of Steay cam on Caural Minds and like watching the

990
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 9: steadi cam operator learn the scene and so you know

991
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 9: their first take they're figuring out where everyone is and

992
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 9: there the lines are and then by the second tape

993
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 9: and you know you're watching, you're like, oh, no, you

994
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 9: need to go to in your head. And then you're

995
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 9: like and he'll be like, can we just go again?

996
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 9: You're like yeah, and then he's already figured out we're

997
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 9: a little fascinating, Like you don't even need to.

998
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: Tell them exactly.

999
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 8: I know.

1000
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 4: That's always my favorite part two of even for multiicam.

1001
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 4: It's just like, you know, watching watching the camera operators

1002
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 4: who've been doing this forever, it's like their first pass

1003
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 4: at it. They may have a question like do you

1004
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 4: want this to be a you know, do you want

1005
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 4: this as a single or do you want a two shot?

1006
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 4: But for the most part, you do it once and

1007
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 4: then they're like, you know what's better, I'm gonna do this,

1008
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 4: and it's just like, yeah, let the experts do what

1009
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 4: they are good at doing.

1010
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, totally.

1011
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 9: And that's what I learned that on Friday lights so

1012
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 9: much because our kind of way of doing things was

1013
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 9: you know what, like I hired you to do lights,

1014
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 9: I'm gonna let you do lights.

1015
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 8: Ye, yeah, I can tell you how to do lights.

1016
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 8: If I have an idea, I'll whatever. But everyone was

1017
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 8: everyone from the camera to.

1018
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 9: The props that deck was so respected and given agency

1019
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 9: to do their job and not micromanaged. And you know,

1020
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 9: I've been on sets where people are very much micromanaged

1021
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 9: and no one really likes it. Yes, theator's in charge

1022
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 9: and they have a vision, but there's also it's a collaboration.

1023
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 9: And that's what I love about it is everyone's thumb

1024
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 9: print is on it, and from that first draft some

1025
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 9: writer came up with to once it goes through the

1026
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 9: edit and the editor does stuff and then the sound design,

1027
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 9: it's like you got to like give up some control

1028
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 9: and some trust and collaborate.

1029
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the first project you directed?

1030
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 8: I didn't get to direct until I was on Criminal Minds.

1031
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 8: And I lucked out.

1032
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 9: There too, because I was only supposed to be there

1033
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 9: for one season, but apparently they liked me and they

1034
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 9: kept asking me back, and it's like cool, but can

1035
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 9: I direct one? They're like okay, And on a show

1036
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 9: like that, I was lucky to come in on the reboot,

1037
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 9: which was called Evolution, and you know, it'd been on

1038
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 9: CBS for fifteen years. It's kind of even freak of

1039
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 9: the week procedural. And when we went to Paramount, when

1040
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 9: I came on, they revamped it. It was only ten

1041
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 9: episodes and it was serialized, and so they very much

1042
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 9: were like, we don't want to do the same thing

1043
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 9: we've been doing for fifteen years. And when I finally

1044
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 9: got to direct, Erica was like, just go make your episode,

1045
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 9: like you can't mess this up, like the show is

1046
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 9: the show, and we want to see like your ideas

1047
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 9: and what you have. And it was really fun and

1048
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 9: she just always supported me, and I did a lot

1049
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 9: more kind of like not a lot, but I had

1050
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 9: a couple of like needle drops in my episode which

1051
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 9: were not really I mean it's not that they never

1052
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 9: have them, but it wasn't like the norm. And I

1053
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 9: had one in my teaser and I got the cut

1054
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 9: of my teaser and I was just like, yes, my

1055
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 9: editor gets it, like I've give them notes and I

1056
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 9: brought it in and showed her like on my directors first.

1057
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 8: Past or whatever. She watched my teaser and she was

1058
00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 8: just like holy Zach, like that's a teaser right, Well

1059
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 8: it's so fun.

1060
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 9: But I remember watching I literally like saw it. I

1061
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 9: saw the first cut. I gave him my notes, he

1062
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 9: took them perfectly.

1063
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 8: I watched it.

1064
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: I literally go Yes, such a great feeling.

1065
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 9: It's so fun and like, my favorite part of directing

1066
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 9: is when someone comes up to you like, Okay, do

1067
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 9: you want the the blue or the purple napkin?

1068
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 8: I really don't give him what do you like? Whatever

1069
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 8: you want? When it comes to.

1070
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 9: People were like, well, I really like the purple because

1071
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 9: of whatever. I'm like, I think you're right.

1072
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: It is the way to go purple.

1073
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 9: I never thought about how that represents royalty. And this is,

1074
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 9: you know, about a serial killer.

1075
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 8: But you're right, you're right.

1076
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 4: You play a psychopath serial killer on Criminal Minds, which

1077
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 4: is obviously a total departure from.

1078
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 3: On a show. Thank god, I thought you were going

1079
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 3: somewhere totally different with that.

1080
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: Now just on the show. Were you excited to play

1081
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: a bad guy?

1082
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's always fun to play the bad guy.

1083
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 9: The fun thing about that one is which I think

1084
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 9: was so cool about the character and why I loved

1085
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 9: playing him, was the first season they were so smart

1086
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 9: because you know, he's this prolific serial killer, but you

1087
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 9: never see him do it. You just see him as

1088
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 9: this family man with two kids, and he's this great dad,

1089
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 9: and it just makes you creeped out. Because you're kind

1090
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 9: of like this guy, but then you know all this

1091
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 9: stuff he's done, and then I always said, it makes

1092
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 9: you kind of realize, like, man, this person in the

1093
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 9: grocery store could be a serial killer. Yeah, like it

1094
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 9: it could be a drop off with my kids. And

1095
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 9: so then you know, I got to kind of play

1096
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 9: that and you see kind of it come out. And

1097
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 9: then in season two, I'm in jail and I get

1098
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 9: to play this other side of me where I'm just

1099
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 9: kind of this guy who loves to push people's buttons.

1100
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 8: I'm smarter than everyone. I'm a bit of a smart

1101
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 8: which was.

1102
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 9: Like so fun because at that point of season two,

1103
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 9: I knew the cast and I could just mess with

1104
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 9: them and like this is they let me like just

1105
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 9: go loose. And you know Ajkoch who I mentioned earlier.

1106
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 9: She was one of the first people i'd met when

1107
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 9: I got when I worked on that show, and we

1108
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 9: got along really well, and so I would just mess

1109
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 9: with her and like call.

1110
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 8: Her Fbi Barbie or like Blondie or whatever.

1111
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 9: Like I would just come up with all these names,

1112
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 9: and I could see what I'm messing with them, them

1113
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 9: all being like Zach.

1114
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 8: Together. And then there's this one actor r. J.

1115
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 9: Hakanaka, who is so funny, well he's funny in real life,

1116
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 9: but his character is so like I was ex militarian,

1117
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 9: I'm this and that and there's. I had this one

1118
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 9: scene with him where like him and I are trying

1119
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 9: to break something down and it's something about like some

1120
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 9: number you.

1121
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 8: Call for like escorts or I don't know, it's like

1122
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 8: a sex line or something.

1123
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 9: And I just would go on and on and say

1124
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 9: the randomest like goes off the wall, like inappropriate stuff,

1125
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 9: and he was just like uh huh mm hm oh okay,

1126
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 9: so it's that. So it's like that, And I was like,

1127
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 9: I can't break you, Like, none of this is ever

1128
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 9: gonna make it in the show.

1129
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 8: I'm just trying to get you to crack a smile

1130
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 8: and you're like a robot.

1131
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 4: No, yes, Zach. You have two beautiful children. Do you

1132
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 4: think either one of them will ever want to get

1133
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 4: into acting? And if so, how would you feel about that?

1134
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 8: I hope not. Yeah, I think my daughter will.

1135
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 9: She's apparently in some school play right now, which I

1136
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 9: only say apparently I'm a very bother.

1137
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm pretty in school.

1138
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 9: She came home and she's like, yeah, no, I'm in

1139
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 9: Lion King. I'm like, oh cool, Like what is like?

1140
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 9: It's all kind of very cryptic, like, well, what part

1141
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 9: are you? She's like, I don't know today. I hope

1142
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 9: I'm not Scar And I'm like, I don't understand what's

1143
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 9: going on in school. But she she's very i mean

1144
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 9: she loves role play and make believe and all this stuff,

1145
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 9: and she's very artistic. I'm scared that she'll want to

1146
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 9: go into it just because I mean, you guys, how

1147
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 9: old were we all when you did the show?

1148
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 8: Well?

1149
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: I was ten when I started acting. Writer was even younger.

1150
00:53:59,000 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 6: No, I was ten when I started.

1151
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 3: We were all three of us were ten when we

1152
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 3: started a professional.

1153
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1154
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 9: I mean, you guys have all turned out like normal humans.

1155
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 6: Someone.

1156
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 3: Adjusted enough. It's a perfect way to put it.

1157
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 8: If you have a whole podcast like look at you.

1158
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, everyone knows that's the sign out.

1159
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 8: Okay, they have a podcast. Their parents must be proud.

1160
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 4: A little known fact, well not I mean not little

1161
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 4: to most people who know Zach. Zach and Wryter are

1162
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 4: the two people I would say are number one and

1163
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 4: number two, or maybe tied for number one, of people

1164
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 4: who know how to be outdoorsy, and I've said all

1165
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 4: along that I've been interested in. I want to camp,

1166
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 4: but I will only go if I can go with

1167
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 4: Writer's family or Zach, because Jensen and I cannot be

1168
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 4: trusted alone in the wilderness.

1169
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: Everyone will die, it will be bad news.

1170
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 4: But if I go with either of you, I think

1171
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 4: I'll have food to eat, I'll be able to set

1172
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 4: up shelter.

1173
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 3: Where am I on that list?

1174
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 4: I'm just curious, will your as outdoorsy as I am?

1175
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 11: I met Zach like fifteen years ago. We've been friends

1176
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 11: for a long time, and it was just this.

1177
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1178
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,479
Speaker 11: We sat next to each other at a movie theater

1179
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 11: and we were talking and I go, I'm a big

1180
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 11: fan of Friday the Lights. He goes thanks, and he

1181
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 11: literally was like, you know, I'm thinking about not acting anymore.

1182
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 11: I'm going to become a professional camp counselor. And my

1183
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 11: immediate reaction was, Oh, we'll never be friends. This is

1184
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 11: humanly impossible.

1185
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: Not too bad, I dig you.

1186
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 11: He's yeah, he beats Writer, which is hard to do.

1187
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 6: Wow. I wanted to ask about New Zealand. When you

1188
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 6: through that, I was like, what where'd you go? What

1189
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 6: were you doing? That sounds so cool.

1190
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 2: No.

1191
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 8: I camped all growing up, and like.

1192
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 9: During my like sixteen seventeen eighteen year old summers, me

1193
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 9: and my then girlfriend, we'd go for like months and

1194
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 9: go camping in the Rockies or Canada or something like that.

1195
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 9: And then when I turned twenty one, I started working

1196
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 9: for this company called Adventures Cross Country, which is.

1197
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 8: Kind of like noles are out, We're bound, and you know,

1198
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 8: I got to spend a summer working in Alaska, like.

1199
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 9: Literally where you're just backpacking stuff on your back for

1200
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 9: three weeks at a time.

1201
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 8: We had like a seaplane comeing to like restock us,

1202
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 8: but I did.

1203
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 9: There was a couple of hiatuses of Friday night Lights

1204
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 9: where either I had a chunk of time or like

1205
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 9: something I was supposed to do fell through.

1206
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 8: And this company they'd always I'd be their first call

1207
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 8: if they had.

1208
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 9: To fire someone or something, and so New Zealand literally

1209
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 9: was they called and they were like, hey we had

1210
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 9: to fire someone.

1211
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 8: Was there anyway?

1212
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 9: You go to Australia and New Zealand for like two

1213
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 9: months and I was like I sure can't. That's and

1214
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 9: I worked on other ones, two of them, but the kids.

1215
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 9: There was one where it was like after six weeks,

1216
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 9: one of the kids was like, are you on that

1217
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 9: football show? And I was like, oh, yeah, I am,

1218
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 9: and they're like, oh yeah, you seem so familiar. I'm like,

1219
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 9: oh yeah, that's me. And they're like, all right, well anyway, Zach.

1220
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 9: And then like another kid was like, what do you

1221
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 9: mean you're on the show. I'm like, I don't know,

1222
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 9: like I'm on it. He goes so like you're on

1223
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 9: the team, and I'm like yeah, he goes.

1224
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 8: So if I watch it when I when I see

1225
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 8: and I.

1226
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 3: Was like, this is how television works.

1227
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, in the background shoes exactly.

1228
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 9: It just like makes no sense because like kids that

1229
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 9: age are showing their own world.

1230
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 8: They're just yeah, well whatever. Anyway, I was this person,

1231
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 8: so wait, how old are the kids on something like that? Anyway?

1232
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 8: From like fourteen to seventeen or eighteens? So cool?

1233
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1234
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 3: Do you do you normally?

1235
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: Do you return with the same number of kids that

1236
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: you leave with or you expected to lose one or

1237
00:57:58,800 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: two along the way.

1238
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 8: You know, I had a pretty good track record. Okay, okay,

1239
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 8: but I have had trips where I had to like

1240
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 8: evat kids.

1241
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 9: I had one where I was working in semite and

1242
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 9: this girl this is literally this is the craziest day

1243
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 9: of my life.

1244
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 8: And I'll try to streamline it for you.

1245
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 9: But we wake up and all of our bear canisters,

1246
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 9: which are like mini kegs which you keep your food

1247
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 9: in because bears can't get into them. A bear had

1248
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 9: taken them, and like they try to throw them against

1249
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 9: trees and stuff to open.

1250
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they're too smart. Sorry smart.

1251
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 9: So we go and we open them and a bunch

1252
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 9: of our food is like exploded and it's ruined.

1253
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 8: So we need more food.

1254
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 9: And one of my co leaders there were three of us,

1255
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 9: her name is Liz. She was like a marathon runner,

1256
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 9: running like the Boston Marathon blah blah blah, and she

1257
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 9: was and we were supposed to summit at Half Dome

1258
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 9: that day, and she was like, all right, I'll run

1259
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,439
Speaker 9: down and get more food.

1260
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 8: But I really want to sum at Half Dome first.

1261
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 8: And I was like, wait, if you're gonna get us

1262
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 8: more food, you can do whatever you want.

1263
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, So we go up half Dome. We have

1264
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 9: this girl start having an asthma attack. We have her

1265
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 9: inhaler and we knew she had bad ass, so we

1266
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 9: also have like a nebulizer for her. So we start

1267
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 9: giving her a nebulizer and I just said, look, if

1268
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 9: this doesn't work, we're screwed. She's really screwed, but we're

1269
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 9: gonna be screwed. And so I was like, we have

1270
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 9: to call a helicopter, Like we can't chance this. So

1271
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 9: she's sitting there like turning blue. Helicopter lands on top

1272
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 9: of a half dome. Medics get out strap or to

1273
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 9: a thin oxygen put it in the helicopter. My other

1274
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 9: co leader, Kim, gets in the helicopter and it.

1275
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 8: Just flies away.

1276
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 9: And so then meeting Liz look at each other like Okay,

1277
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 9: it's just the two of us now, and I'm like,

1278
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 9: and you need.

1279
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 8: To go get us some more food. So it's just

1280
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 8: me And so then she like runs down like the

1281
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 8: mountains into Yo sementy villages. I think it's like a

1282
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 8: nine mile track. I take the kids back to our campsite.

1283
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 8: I start making dinner.

1284
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 9: I'm sitting there, I have like three or four kids

1285
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 9: on the other side of the stove, and I'm I'm like, okay,

1286
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 9: blah blah blah.

1287
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 8: Caesadilla, this is how you make it. And then I look.

1288
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 9: Up and behind a tree like thirty feet behind us.

1289
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 9: This bear comes out from behind a tree, and I'm

1290
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 9: just like and it's like what I'm like, just get

1291
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 9: behind me now, Like what I'm like, get behind me.

1292
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 9: So they all get behind me and we like make

1293
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 9: ourselves big, and you're like, hey bear, hey there, and

1294
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 9: you because you want us to know you're there, but

1295
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 9: you don't want to startle it. And we're like slowly

1296
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 9: back away, and it just starts like kind of like

1297
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 9: pacing towards us. Yeah, they wanted the case idea, and

1298
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 9: they do bluff charges, so it charges us.

1299
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 8: But if you run, it instinctually thinks it needs to

1300
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 8: chase you.

1301
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1302
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 9: I had to just stand there with these kids with

1303
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 9: like pocket knives out as if it were going to

1304
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,479
Speaker 9: do anything, and it stopped right here and I could

1305
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 9: like feel its breath on me, Oh my gosh, and

1306
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 9: just slowly like hey, heymar and like back the kids away.

1307
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 9: And once we're far enough away, when it ate our

1308
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 9: case ideas and I got the kids like to our

1309
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 9: campsite and I kind of wait for it to go away.

1310
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 8: And so then the kids are like, oh my god,

1311
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 8: I'm pumped. I'm so jazz Yeah, and it. Finally Liz

1312
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 8: comes back with food. She's like, how do it go.

1313
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 9: I'm like, you have no idea and luckily and you know,

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Speaker 9: we're far enough removed. I don't think either of us

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Speaker 9: can get in trouble. But uh, she was like, hey,

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Speaker 9: I am I put two beers in our bag.

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Speaker 8: But I was like, thank god, my life. But yeah,

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Speaker 8: that was like one of the craziest days. So we

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Speaker 8: had to back that girl.

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Speaker 6: We did.

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Speaker 8: On another trip, I had to evac a couple.

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Speaker 9: Of kids because these poor girls they had strainus, which

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Speaker 9: is essentially the strap virus in your anus, and they

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Speaker 9: were very itchy and the temfortable, and so my co leader,

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Speaker 9: there were only two of us on that one, she

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Speaker 9: had to take them out to get them to We

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Speaker 9: didn't know what it was. We just knew they were

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Speaker 9: very uncomfortable and in that reason, you're not like tough

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Speaker 9: it out for five more days, right, So they left,

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Speaker 9: and then I have all the kids, and of course

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Speaker 9: this is a younger group.

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Speaker 8: They were like fourteen. There was a girl who got

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Speaker 8: her period for the.

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Speaker 9: First time and none of the other girls had their period,

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Speaker 9: so I had to like talk her through. I'd be like, okay,

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Speaker 9: so you're gonna go over there and like explain how

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Speaker 9: to put a tampon.

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Speaker 12: God, God, see this is what happens when you go outside.

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Speaker 12: You Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: This sounds awful.

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Speaker 4: I am gonna need to know more about straightus questions.

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Speaker 9: You still have to say, I don't have the same

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Speaker 9: guidelines we learned in COVID wash your hands?

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Speaker 3: How are you to other people as much?

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Speaker 9: I think they didn't wash their hands well enough, and

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Speaker 9: so the bacteria is just on your hands, and if

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Speaker 9: you touch someone that's on there.

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Speaker 8: They wipe.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they got it from dirty leaves, being outdoorsy, you know, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 9: I am terrified of my son because he's five, and

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Speaker 9: he'll go to the bathroom and I'll be like, do.

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Speaker 8: You know wipe? He's like, no, I can do it.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, no, you can't. Broa you just like really

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Speaker 8: take a lot and like wipe, like rub your hip, like.

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Speaker 9: I'll brush my kids teeth and wipe my thoughts until

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Speaker 9: I'm fully confident that they are capable.

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Speaker 4: Correct, I'm exactly the same way I asked the dentist

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Speaker 4: recently about Adler because he's six and I still help

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Speaker 4: brush his teeth, and I was like, am I supposed to.

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Speaker 1: Just be letting him fully brush his own teeth? Now?

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Speaker 4: She goes, absolutely not, not if you don't want him

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Speaker 4: to have cavities, And I was like.

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Speaker 1: Great, and then I'm going to just keep helping. He

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Speaker 1: does it.

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Speaker 4: He does it teeth brushing, But then I also get

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Speaker 4: to go in there for my little round and then

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Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, now at least I know you got

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Speaker 4: one decent brushing in there. Well. Anyway, Zach, thank you

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Speaker 4: so much for being here with us. I always enjoy

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Speaker 4: talking to you. I adore you, I adore your family.

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Speaker 4: You and writer would absolutely be friends.

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Speaker 8: I'd be down anytime I got you know, I think

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Speaker 8: I'm free tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Hard you can't find backpacking site. It's like within like

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Speaker 5: driving distance of LA.

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Speaker 6: It sucks. Like I've always tried.

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Speaker 7: To do like weekend trips with my friends from up north,

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Speaker 7: and it's like, man, we always just have to drive

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Speaker 7: like six to eight hours, you know, is like the

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Speaker 7: only I mean, yeah you can.

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Speaker 8: There's if you look it up, you can do him

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Speaker 8: in a day.

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Speaker 9: There's like the so called six pack, which is right.

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Speaker 9: And I had friends we did it for a while,

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Speaker 9: but you know sometimes it was like in the car at.

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Speaker 8: Four am to drive like two and a half hours.

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Speaker 9: So then ike, all, I mean it's fun and it's

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Speaker 9: worth it, but yeah, you would think to really get

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Speaker 9: out there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, when I've gone up to Bishop and done trips

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Speaker 7: out of there every time, I get elevation sickness because,

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Speaker 7: like you just because I only have like three days

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Speaker 7: and like without failed, like day two.

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Speaker 6: I'm just on the trail like throwing up and like

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Speaker 6: it sucks, Like I can't do this.

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Speaker 8: You're really selling this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my Chipotle yesterday ran out of chicken. I had

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01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 2: to wait like twenty minutes while they made a new

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01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 2: batch of chicken, and it was like, drop was a

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Speaker 2: hard time dude.

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Speaker 5: I just met an editor who actually got bit by

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Speaker 5: a bear. He was he was in he was sleeping

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01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 5: in a hammock. He had like one of those hammock setups,

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01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 5: and he just he heard the bear and was just like, oh,

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01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna ignore it, and then it just literally

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01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 5: came over started pushing against him. He's like, I'll just

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01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 5: go to play dead, which is not the right thing

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01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 5: to do, and it just took a bite.

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Speaker 6: I know, and then he's like, then I made no.

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01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, dude, if a bear was like

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01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 5: sniffing around for food and you're in a cocoon, you're

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01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 5: just like a meal.

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01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 6: Like just And I think he actually did have.

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Speaker 5: Something in his pocket, like you know, a mosquito repelling

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01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 5: or something, because like usually they wouldn't, you know, go

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01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 5: near a person, but I think he had some.

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01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was just it was just my son.

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01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't even a bear.

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Speaker 9: Zach.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here with us. Always

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01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: a pleasure to see you.

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Speaker 8: Oh my god, thank you for having me. What an honor.

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01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 9: No, I mean I watched your all show growing up.

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01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 9: It's iconic to me. So it's edited in any way.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Zach.

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Speaker 2: We always do a test run, and so the next

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Speaker 2: time we have you on, we'll record it.

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Speaker 8: Will Yeah, I love that my bear story we got.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna send over notes.

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Speaker 1: I love if you could do this podcast in only

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Speaker 1: one sentence.

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Speaker 8: I mean, do I really do? I really need to

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01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 8: be honest?

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01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 3: Well, you're the best Matt's Borings and that's ever played.

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01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 8: So that's that's I like that one.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Zach. I'll see you talk to you soon.

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01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: He's funny, funny, he is amazing.

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01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: I have one quick change which which some people obviously

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01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 2: caught and other people didn't. I said a while back

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01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 2: that Phonsie landed the motorcycle after he jumped the shark.

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01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 2: And what clearly I meant was he landed on his

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01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 2: water skis when he was not on the motorcycle. So

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Speaker 2: I'd like to just no, he jumped the shark on

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01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 2: water skis.

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01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:50,919
Speaker 6: Was jumping theyle.

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01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 3: He jumped the shark on water skis.

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Speaker 8: So there you.

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01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 4: I wanted to, you know, okay, just make sure yeah,

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01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 4: you've been holding onto bat this time.

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01:06:58,560 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 8: I have.

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01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 2: I literally wrote it down, like, brought it down. Yeah,

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01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: Phonzie waterski.

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01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 4: Thank you all for joining us for this episode of

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Speaker 4: Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on

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Speaker 1: And we've got March Hey.

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Speaker 5: March, Hey, March hey, March hey, March.

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Speaker 2: Straightus is my new favorite word.

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Speaker 8: Actually it is just a.

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Speaker 3: I did not ever get straightus.

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Speaker 2: I did get strenus, which is something totally different.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, so that you're not.

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Speaker 2: You haven't gotten stratus, you never got struck.

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Speaker 3: It's the word.

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