1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast are heavy legged waistbenders. Welcome 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the League Podcast. I'm 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal alongside a room full of heroes. How's that? 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling in the house. No Dan hands 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: us here today, but we sold your on. We are 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: missing one of our great heroes. But I did see 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: him this morning tweet. I believe he's in the Palm 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: Springs area, potentially. He tweeted a a ivory white plate 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: filled with strips of bacon, So I think he's doing Okay, 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: that could that's like a hate tweet to you. I mean, 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: that couldn't be more hateful towards No. No. And when 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: I look at Dan and who Dan is, I figured 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: he's having a nice morning. He's eating multiple bacon pieces. 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: Since I've moved to California, the word flight has entered 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: my vocabulary. Is and like, when you go to a 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: wine tasting, they have a flight of wine. And he 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: called it a bacon flight. That's a soft word in 18 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: your East Coaster wouldn't use that. It's a little pretentious. 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Well, I just think we gotta figure out 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: a way to how to have a podcast without hands 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: us in the room. Who's going to talk about the 22 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven jets just have to go on without that. 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: We're here on President's Day and what a useless holiday 24 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: that is, So why not do a podcast? Um, hey, 25 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln and George Washington that I don't mean useless. 26 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: It's always around, uh, you know, we have a birthday 27 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: this week. It's always around our birthday, so that's good. 28 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: But I just mean it's kind of the one holiday 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: where everyone agrees that you can basically ignore it if 30 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: if you want. I think it's useless because we're working. Well, 31 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: I think George Washington and Abraham Lincoln would be happy 32 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: to know that you can get half off your mattress 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: on their day. Well, it's not only it's what it 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: boils down to not only President's Day week, and it's 35 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: also Scouting Combine week. And with the Scouting combine comes 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 1: a little scouting combine talk. We're gonna go there later 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: this week. Chris Mark and I are headed to Indianapolis 38 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. But why don't we talk a little combine 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: and to do that, let's start up our news alright, 40 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: let's get to it. Nolan Iraqi, formerly known of Pro 41 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: Football Weekly now writing for NFL dot Com. He tends 42 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: to get notice for his evaluations of players when he 43 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: gets into the character of the players. And it's not 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: the only thing he does. Of course, he does a 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: huge write up strength weaknesses analysis. Where is he gonna go? 46 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: He is the guy that Mike Mayock calls on the phone. 47 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: Mayak has talked about this to cross check. He really 48 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: trusts him. He does the work. Um. But you know 49 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: what gets noticed by Nolan, especially this time of year, 50 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: is when he starts talking about some guys that might 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: have red flags. And he did an article UH today 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: for the most controversial prospects in the NFL Draft, and 53 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: it basically has his take a number of guys and 54 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: his take on Johnny Manziel is making some news. So 55 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it out loud and you guys can comment. 56 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: Here we go, suspecting and tangibles. Not a leader by 57 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: example or known to inspire by his words. Carries a 58 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: sense of entitlement and prima donna arrogance, seeking out the 59 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: bright lights of Hollywood. Is known to party too much 60 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: and is drawn to all the trappings of the game. 61 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: He's defied the odds and proven to be a great 62 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: college system quarterback, but still must prove he's willing to 63 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: work to be great, adjust his hard partying Hollywood lifestyle, 64 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: and be able to inspire his teammates by more than 65 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: his playmaking ability. It seems fair to me. It's fair. 66 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: What do you mean that's fair? Is it fair? Yeah? 67 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: I think there's some truth to that. You know, Nolan 68 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: a rocky people. He gets ripped on a lot. But 69 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: these are coming from scouts. This isn't just pulled out 70 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: of thin air, not a vacuum. And we know from 71 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: reading about football for the last couple of decades, scouts 72 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: are among the most opinion o pinionated people on earth. 73 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: I've heard Thomas Dimitrof of the Falcons general general manager said, 74 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 1: you know what, Scouts, we have to kind of train 75 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: ourselves not to be know at all. As we tend 76 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: to tell our wives what to do, we tell our 77 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: children what to do, we tell everybody in our lives. 78 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: This is how it is. This is the Bible's golden 79 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: truth on issues, and you kind of have to train 80 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: yourself not to do that. But I think there's a 81 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: ring of truth to a lot of this stuff on 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: Johnny Mansel, I'm surprised by not a leader by example 83 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: or known to inspire by his words. I mean that's 84 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: that also suggests that he's spoken to someone who's played 85 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: with him, or people that have been in that environment 86 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: with him and been close to him on a day 87 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: to day basis. I mean. The one thing though, that 88 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: I take away because we've seen Cam Newton got lashed 89 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: in some of these previous reports. Other guys, Hey, these 90 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: are young dudes that can change. I mean Johnny Johnny 91 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: he already said he wants to drop this whole Johnny 92 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: football image last week. He's he was a college kid. 93 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: I'm glad that what I did at that age isn't 94 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: broadcast nationally to everyone. But you know, it's it's it's 95 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: it is fair in the sense that if he's gathering 96 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: this information from people who have talked to players and 97 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: coaches that have been close to him, but he can 98 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: change it. To me, there's two separate issues. One, does 99 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: he have the drive to be great? Does he have 100 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: the work ethic and the desire to do everything that's 101 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: necessary to be great on the next level. If the 102 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: answer to that is yes, then who cares how much 103 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: he parties everyone quarterbacks party. News flash. You know who 104 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: had a bunch of red flags and got knocked in 105 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: the draft for partying too much? Dan Marino. I mean 106 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: Dan Marino was right up there, right. I mean a 107 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,119 Speaker 1: lot of Johnny Manziel looks like a choir boy compared 108 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: to Joe Namath. Yeah, I know someone Tom Brady at 109 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: Michigan and said he was an outrageous party or at Michigan, Well, 110 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: who wouldn't be. I mean, you're at college. So that's 111 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: to me, it's two separate issues. There's a lot of 112 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: guys in the NFL that kill it every weekend during 113 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: the season, out of the season. If they are able 114 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: to take care of their business and work hard and 115 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: all that, that's really all that matters. I read from 116 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: one coach. He said, here's what I don't want on 117 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: my team as a college coach. I don't want guys 118 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: that grew up sleeping in silk sheets. I want guys 119 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: that have been counted out or never even had sheets 120 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: growing up. He wants tough players. And my thing, my 121 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: thing is with Johnny Manzela is he grew up uh 122 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: with everything that a child could want, right. He grew 123 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 1: up in privilege that to me sometimes is a bigger 124 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: red flag than someone at twenty two enjoying what comes 125 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: with being a quarterback. That's dangerous too, though, because I'm like, 126 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: you can't. Maybe not fair itself, but it's a broad brush. 127 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Tom Brady, a lot of people that came 128 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: up in a great Peyton Manning came out in a 129 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: great environment. I don't think that it's really hard. I 130 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: think for the scouts to figure out who's really got 131 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: it inside of them too, when they get to the 132 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: next level, is going to take it up a notch 133 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: in terms of their preparation. I mean, that's got to 134 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: be the hardest thing to scout. No, I agree with 135 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: both of you guys. I think I think Greg's right. 136 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: If you are willing to prepare, you're willing to work hard, 137 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: and you're willing to put in the work to be great, 138 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: none of none of the art rest of this stuff matters. 139 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: And I agree with Mark. When you're twenty years old, 140 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: when you're twenty one, you have a lot of changing 141 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: to go through. None of the stuff can be written 142 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: in stone. It's all fluid. I think with with manziel I, 143 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: from what I do see in terms of his comments 144 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: and stuff. I understanding a bad summer. He came off 145 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: one where he became this radio acted like lightning Rod 146 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: and everywhere he went, and that's that's part of the process. 147 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: But if he's maturing, and if he can play, and 148 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: if he comes into a team and can galvanize an 149 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: offense and make plays, this stuff will wash away with 150 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: the rain. It won't matter seeking out the bright lights 151 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: of Hollywood. What is that we didn't well, we all 152 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: moved to Los Angeles? Could we not do that? I 153 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: remember when Josh Gordon spent last offseason partying with lebron 154 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: as one of his hangers on, hanging out in South Beach, 155 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: and that was a big knock on him. And then 156 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: he just had one of the best receiving seasons in 157 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: NFL history. I know you were interested in another right 158 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: up that Iraqi wrote. Yeah, it was uh, you know, 159 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: he took a look at j Even Clowney and he 160 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: said his take was lacks discipline on and off the 161 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: field and has to be managed closely since he arrived 162 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: on campus, needs to learn what it means to be 163 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: a pro, played in spurts and is too much of 164 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: a flash player. Does not consistently dominate like he could, 165 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: is still immature and finding his way too much of 166 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: a follower. Uh, sort of same thing applies. You know, 167 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of stuff about Clowney over the 168 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: months that maybe this guy isn't uh is driven as 169 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: that you'd want him to be if you're gonna take 170 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: him in the top five. But but how do we 171 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: know he's in a catch twenty two situation at South Carolina? 172 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: Do you risk the injury when you know you're gonna 173 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: go number one overall? To me, I don't care that 174 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: much about college football, so it doesn't bother me if 175 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: he sits out a few games when he's less than 176 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: I don't care about that. But I can see how 177 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: scouts would question is love with the game? But I mean, 178 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: he's going to play in the NFL College it doesn't 179 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: have to mean as such to him, and I'm fine 180 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: with it. You know, they talked about, yeah, he was 181 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: overprotective of his body and from the start the season, 182 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: but there's some wisdom in that. Potentially, if you hang 183 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: around for another year, you know you know what's coming 184 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: if you get through that healthy. Just in terms of 185 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: the conversation about him, He reminds me a little bit 186 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: of Mario Williams and Julius Peppers coming out of college, 187 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: both of them lightly questioned for how badly they wanted. Ultimately, 188 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: I think they've both lived up to their draft stock 189 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: and then some, especially compared to people around him. Let's 190 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: move on. Let's talk a little Baltimore Ravens. Throughout SUGS, 191 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: we talked about him as a potential salary cap casualty. 192 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: But he signed a restructured contract, four year deal on 193 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: top of his current year, and he's gonna stay a 194 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: Baltimore raven This surprised at all. This seems like a 195 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: no brainer from his perspective. What's again, sixteen million at 196 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: age thirty one over the next two years, he gets 197 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: sixteen million guaranteed. He is not taking a pay cut 198 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: off of what he was set to make in it 199 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: sounds like a win win, but it's really a bigger 200 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: win for sucks at his age. You gotta take the 201 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: guaranteed money now. And to me, he's getting sixteen million 202 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: guaranteed for a guy who was thought to be taking 203 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: a pay cut. And with the Ravens, I mean they, 204 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: you know, are their history says with Ozzie Knew someone 205 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: incredibly forward thinking, smart move after the next have they is? 206 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: Does this pallone in that category? I mean, Suggs was 207 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: not necessarily the same player last season, and he's been 208 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: in the past. He certainly was better than the year 209 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: before coming off the injury. But it feels like he's 210 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: a little overpaid to me, maybe a little, But he's 211 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: thirty one. You know what you have with him? Is 212 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: he a below average NFL starter? I don't think so. Well. 213 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: What does an average NFL starter make on the open 214 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: market as a free agent at defensive end, Well, I 215 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: think makes more than eight million dollars a year. And 216 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: sometimes you've got to give a big signing bonus to 217 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: get him. If you're Ozzie Knew, some you're paying a premium. 218 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: You've already lost Ray Lewis and Ed Reid, so you're 219 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: paying a premium for your team leader. You know. I 220 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: don't know if he wanted to go into a season 221 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: without Sugs eating that defense and really the voice of 222 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: the team. And I think also they're in a window 223 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: to win now. They only win eight in Nate last year, 224 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: but Flaccos in the prime of his career. If they 225 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: add a few pieces, they can take the NFC north again. 226 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: What did this do for their cap situation right now? 227 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: They save four million dollars in cap room this year, 228 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: and they keep Suggs and Doomerville as their two pass rushers. 229 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: They're basically saying, we looked at free agency. We don't 230 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: think our money is gonna get spent any better than 231 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: spending sixteen million dollars on Sugs. The next two years 232 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: after that, we'll see the price actually goes down. This 233 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: is one of those rare contracts where they say, oh, 234 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a Raven for life. It never works 235 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: out the way the way they structure that this deal. 236 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: There's a chance, because he actually takes a pay cut 237 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: in year three to five million stays low year four, 238 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: there's a chance he sticks around. And I think they're 239 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: hoping that maybe another year removed from the torn Achilles, 240 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: he's even better. In bad Ravens news this weekend, though, 241 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: ray Rice and his fiancee were arrested on simple assault 242 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: charges early Saturday in Atlantic City. Um Ozzie Newsom, the 243 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: general manager, said ray Rice remains a big part of 244 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: their future, so however this arrest turns out, uh in 245 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: terms of the facts and if he gets any fine 246 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: or time or whatever. They are not planning to move 247 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: on from Ray Rice. Well, I mean on the field, 248 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: this is a guy that averaged three point one yard 249 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: to carry last season, looked completely different than he has 250 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: in the past. What do we call him snowsuit? I 251 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: mean he's not He's not a guy that's an imposing 252 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: centerpiece at this point, but certainly still part of the plans. 253 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: I think, you know, the hip injury. They want to 254 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: see what is he healthy? Yeah, I think you would 255 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: compare it to maybe like Ryan Matthews last year. There's 256 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: nothing we can know about his two thousand and fourteen 257 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: form until we see him in the preseason and if 258 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: he looks better than we have expectations that he can 259 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: be a bounced back Canada. You know there's surveillance footage, 260 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: uh from this incident. You know it's an unfortunate incident. 261 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 1: I was the one thing I was surprised about that, 262 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: Newsom said, neither coach Harbaugh or I have spoken with 263 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: Ray Rice. Almost two and a half days after the incident. 264 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: He hasn't talked and talked to the coach of the 265 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: gym that struck me as odd, but it's clear that 266 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: they they planned to keep him. Let's move on from 267 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: that and we'll wrap up the news. What are you 268 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: laughing at? So I want to read Nolan the Rocky's 269 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: report on Greg. I'm just waiting for that to come around. 270 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: I don't think I want Nolan the Rocky touching my 271 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: private life. I wouldn't want Nolan Rocky touching anything. Um, 272 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: let's go to Cam Newton. He says he won't hold out, 273 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: absolutely will not hold out this year. And why would he? 274 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: But if you think about it, this is the first 275 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: set of quarterbacks since the new Collective Bargaining Agreement has 276 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: been signed that is up for a contract extension. It's 277 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: Cam Newton, it's Colin Kaepernick and Andy Dalton. This is 278 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: their first off season and if you just look at production, 279 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: they're all underpaid. Newton says, I will absolutely not hold out. 280 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: I'll throw out to you guys, which of these three 281 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: guys gets the contract first, Cam Dalton or Kaepernick. Let's 282 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 1: say Kaepernick. Why is that the forty Niners seemed to 283 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: move more quickly on things than the Panthers. Dalton is 284 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: undeserving of a huge deal. Panthers have all sorts of 285 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: cap issues to nothing. They couldn't figure that out. But 286 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: it's you know, they haven't even reached out to any 287 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: of their current free agents, according to Captain Muddling last week, 288 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: So I did the forty Niners had their They seem 289 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: to operate in unison and I could see them getting 290 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: this done quickly. I'm looking for a huge holdout from 291 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. That guy's gonna he's gonna go deep into 292 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: the summer for more money. The forty have been planning 293 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: for this for over a year now. We heard talk 294 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: about the Kaepernick extension last year at this time, so 295 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: they they've known it was coming. So if Dalton holds out, 296 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: who's in charge of that team right there? Josh Johnson. 297 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: Josh Johnson, it's him. I think is going to add 298 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback before now, in the time they put a 299 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: crown on just Johnson said, I think all three of 300 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: those guys will get contracts this offseason. Dalton, I think 301 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: will be smart enough to take whatever slightly below market 302 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: deal the Bengals offer him, because I think there's no 303 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: doubt they'll give him a contract offer and I think 304 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: he'll just take it. Why not take ten million million 305 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: dollars a year. If you're Andy Daltons, does that if 306 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: the other two I absolutely make sense and the fan 307 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: base would be delighted to see those quarterbacks stick around. 308 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: If you're a Bengals fan, do you want Andy Dalton 309 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: getting a contract extension? But don't you think they'll I 310 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: think he'll get one. They seem they've said all that, 311 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, where there's no there's no voice in that 312 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: organization that says, you know, this guy is on the 313 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: hot seat and we're looking to give him a huge competition. 314 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: But that's my problem with the Bengals right there. How 315 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: about you give him competition. You go out and draft 316 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: someone to challenge him. The other two home run. You've 317 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: got to sign those guys. Don't you think the hold 318 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: out is a pass a notion? These days, there's no 319 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: reason to hold out in most in most situations. I 320 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: was watching Amazon Prime Instant Video as a new show 321 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: out called The Rebels, based on a a football team 322 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: professional a fictional professional football team, and it's obvious that 323 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: these writers haven't watched football in half a decade because 324 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: the main story storyline is a rookie quarterback named Hurricane 325 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: Jesus who is holding out as if a rookie would 326 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: hold out already slotted, you're already slotted a contract, And 327 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: with Newton and Kaepernick, you know you're gonna get paid eventually. 328 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: Why miss out on important practices and learning the offense 329 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: and getting better when you know you're gonna get paid anyway? 330 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: I think you're right. If they were, I don't know 331 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: there if they were getting paid so low that they 332 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: just felt it wasn't worth it. But I think you're right. 333 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: It's a it's a show of faith by the team. 334 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: You know you're gonna get paid eventually. Maybe, though, if 335 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick got to the start of the season and 336 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: he's still only on the books for nine hundred thousand dollars, 337 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: is it different though? And the when you're meant to 338 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: be that franchise quarterback and not do something completely amiss 339 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: and hold your team captive versus if you're Durrell Reevas 340 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: and you're the cornerback, is it positionally a different situation. 341 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: I think when you're in the quarterback it's it's way 342 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: more important to be at offseason practices, not just for 343 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: the offense, but to be the team leader. Drew Brees 344 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: skips some practices when different, so he had already been 345 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: established as a top three or four quarterback. I think 346 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: it's interesting because again, this is the first time under 347 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: the new CBA that these guys are coming up, and 348 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: just if you don't know the rules, you cannot redo 349 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 1: your contract in your first three years under the new rules. 350 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez. Those are two guys that the 351 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: Patriots resigned after only two years. That wouldn't be allowed anymore. 352 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: So you get to a stage in this fourth year 353 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: where a guy like Cam Newton or Dalton or Kaepernick 354 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: has produced so much that they're vastly underpaid. Now going 355 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: to even Cam Newton was the number one pick, He's 356 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: only do three million, which is way too low for 357 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: a guy who's playing as well as him. Kaepernick's at 358 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: nine thousand. Dalton is very low as well. It's funny 359 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: with you. I think you know West nailed it when 360 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: they made Kaepernick the starter. They said they probably already 361 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: began to look at the situation to resign him in 362 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: with with Newton a year ago. Remember was Gettleman who 363 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: when they asked if he was the franchise quarterback. There 364 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: was that long like four or five second dead air 365 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: pause before he said yeah, he's got to prove it. 366 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: I think now there's no question for the Panthers that 367 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: he is. So now it's in motion. As much as 368 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: I want to bring up Gabe Karemi signing with the Falcons, 369 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: big News and the article that Mark Sessler wrote back 370 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: in two thousand eleven, this is a headline, by the way, 371 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: on NFL dot com that you can look up Chicago's 372 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: Kareemi a k A bare Jew feasts on hanakah Lot. 373 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: I think that in any NFL dot Com author's career, 374 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: you could look at one article say not on me, 375 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: that's the one. I thought there was one involving Tebou 376 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: and Kardashian. What was happening at around the league before 377 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: I showed up full responsibility for the Tebow Kardashian inheritive 378 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: because I you know, this one is the one. I'd 379 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: say it was formatted and structured and the information involved. 380 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: I was I was a puppet on that one, uh 381 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: and I would rather not be associated with it. I 382 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: was gonna say, we can't, we don't have time for 383 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: it because we've gotten so long on the news without 384 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: Dan here. But now we're talking about it. Here is 385 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: Gave Creamy, by the way, signed with the Atlanta Falcons today. 386 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: He's a former first round pick of the Bears. This 387 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: is something Mark Sessler once wrote as a lead to 388 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: his account. What does it take to fill up the 389 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: bear jew quote that was Creamy's nickname this time of year, 390 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: A small mountain of both tato lakis. All right, let's 391 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: move on. It's definitely time to wrap up the news 392 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: Alight segment of our show, Plitzer get delivered to your house. 393 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: Vodka or potato pancakes are traditional Hanak affair. Maybe potatoes, onions, eggs, 394 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: flour and whatever else the chief wants to toss it. 395 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: It's just such detail I was I was delighted to 396 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: find this at the NFL dot com sends our best 397 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: to all those celebrating Honka. Thank you behind the glass today. 398 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: Phil it in for the gold standard. All right, that's 399 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: it for the news. Let's move on to our franchise. 400 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: Tag Primer on NFL dot Com. What an article written 401 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: today by him? Just a terrifically written, concise, informative I 402 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: thought it was just great and we are we predicted 403 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: all of the franchise tags from around the league on Monday. 404 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: It's the first day teams can apply the tag. They 405 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: have two weeks to do it. We and by we, 406 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: I mean me. I predicted ten players to get the 407 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: franchise tag this year. I had Jimmy Graham, Greg Hardy, 408 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: and Rent Grimes as no brainers. Any any disagree about 409 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: the no brainers. I don't know if Brent Grimes is 410 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: a no brainer. I'm as high on him as you are. 411 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: But that's a pretty high tag for for one player. 412 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: Eleven and a half million for Brent Grimes. Yeah, that's 413 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: that's a lot to pay for for one corner who's 414 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: not I mean, he's a good corner, he's Pro Bowl caliber, 415 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: but he's not Richard Sherman. The only way I could 416 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: see it is if they don't at his age, they 417 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: don't want to be lord into a long term deal 418 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: with him. But that is that's an expensive price tag. Well, 419 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: they have a lot of cap room and they're not 420 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: going to let him get away. As my logic, all 421 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: of these guys, the team and the players want to 422 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 1: work out long term contracts, almost all of them. I 423 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: just don't think they're gonna come to an agreement so 424 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: he gets the tag. Let's let's move on to the 425 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: next category. I had seven more players that I thought 426 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: would get tagged, but these ones were up for debate 427 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: a little more. T J Ward with your Browns, the 428 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: Bill's safety, Gyris Bird, Dennis Pitta, the Ravens tap, then 429 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: Vante Davis that was an upset pick, Colts cornerback Jared 430 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: vel Deer, the Raiders tackle, Michael Bennett, who was in 431 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: our studios last week the Seahawks defense event, and then 432 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: Brian A. Rackbo. And so those are my ten franchise players. 433 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: Any big disagreements from that list. I feel like rap 434 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: sheet Ian Rappaport disagrees a little bit with the concept 435 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: of Ward in Cleveland in the sense that maybe Mike Petton, 436 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: after working with Bird last year, who knows his scheme 437 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: and all that business, that they'd rather go after Bird. 438 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: But I think the problem there is that probably maybe 439 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: Buffalo goes down the road of tagging him or fully losing. 440 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: The Browns have already started contract talks with with Ward 441 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: according to ESPN Cleveland yep, and with Mac two, so 442 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: it's who knows how that plays out. I think Michael 443 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: Bennett is the one that surprised me. I agree with 444 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: all the rest of him. You know, Vante Davis is 445 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: not an obvious candidate, but when you look at their 446 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: salary cap situation, they're not gonna want to lose their 447 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: best cornerback. I could see that. Michael Bennett. I don't 448 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,719 Speaker 1: know if the Seahawks they have to extend Earld Thomas 449 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: and Richard Sherman. I don't know if they have the 450 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: room to be spending that much money on a franchise 451 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: tag for Michael Bennett. My theory, and I've done this 452 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: annually for a few years, is good young players don't 453 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: walk away. Every year, everyone gets excited about the free 454 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: agent list. Who's gonna be available? Oh, I can't wait 455 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: till our team signs Ward. I saw someone say today 456 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: or Ben what? And year after year they never get 457 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: out there because good young players don't generally get to 458 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: the market. He was their best pass rusher this year, 459 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: so I just can't imagine. I think they'll figure out 460 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: a way to keep them, whether it's a long term 461 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: contract that's more likely eventually. But to play Devil's advocate, 462 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who their best pass rusher is because 463 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: they're in a rotation there. They don't. He doesn't play 464 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: every down, and they send waves of pass rushers Bruce Irvan, 465 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: Chris Clemens, Cliff Avril, their defensive tackles rushed the pass 466 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: or Clint McDonald. I don't know that Bennett is that 467 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: valuable on a team like the Seahawks, but they could. 468 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: They could potentially talk about a team that may cut 469 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: Sydney Rice to save a lot of cat money and 470 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: may let go of Clements as well, So that might 471 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: up the the need for Bennett. But I agree, it's 472 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: not like they're there. Their pastors is based off a 473 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: one guy. That's fair. But I think if the choices 474 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: tag Bennett or keep Clemments, you get rid of Clements, 475 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: why not just work out a long term deal with Bennett. 476 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: You will all these guys. But concerns with Bennett though 477 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah. There there's some talk beneath the 478 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: surface that he was a guy that was supposed to 479 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: undergo shoulder surgery last season. That's why he didn't get 480 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: a big contract. But there were a lot of teams 481 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: that evaluated him and thought he needed surgery. He never 482 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: had that surgery didn't seem to affect him on the 483 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: field didn't seem to affect him on the field, So 484 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: there might be a disagreement between Bennett and teams over 485 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: whether he needs that long term and that whether you 486 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: whether it makes sense not could keep his price tag 487 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: down and it could be a reason why the Seahawks 488 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: would be comfortable putting him on a one year contract. 489 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: What do you guys think of this? You've got you've 490 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: got Pitta, You've got Grand these guys that uh, you 491 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: see it out to the argument that we're tight ends. 492 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: But we're essentially, you know what, move tight ends where 493 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: we're lining up in the slaughter out wide at a 494 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: high enough percentage where we get an arbitrator to come 495 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: in and negotiate some number between the two the tight 496 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: end the wide receiver cap situation. I'm sure the agents 497 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: for Graham and Pitta won't like this, but they're tight ends. 498 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: That's what position they play. In the NFL. The NFL 499 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: now players line up all over the field more than ever. 500 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: Kellen Winslow linen up as a wide receiver at times 501 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: when he played for their Chargers thirty or forty years ago, 502 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: nobody thought he was a wide receiver. He was a 503 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: tight end. Do you think there should be a designation 504 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: for your Gary Barnages of the world to sit there 505 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 1: and block someone and a tight end that lines up 506 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: and catches eighty passes a year. Should there be different 507 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: franchise tag allocations for those in that direction? I mean, 508 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: Gary Barnage to me has always been under underutilized as 509 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: a receiver. He's got some wheels on him and the ends. 510 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: Why hasn't he been used as more as a Dan 511 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: hansis is listening to this? Is he's still awake? No, 512 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: there's no way he would have allowed Barnage talk on 513 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: the podcast if he was there. The top the salary 514 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: cap number in the franchise tech number comes from those 515 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: receiving tight ends. Anyways, I don't understand the argument. It 516 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: seems stupid. Why would they be counted as wide receivers? 517 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: And if your big argument is that there slot receivers, 518 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: do you really want to be the top average of 519 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: slot receivers because Wes Welker and dan Amon Doland, guys 520 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: like that, Victor Cruz, they don't really get paid that much. 521 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: But didn't Sugs when he had an argument whether he 522 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: was an outside linebacker or a defensive end, didn't that 523 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: get arbitrated where there was a cut down the middle 524 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: cost between the two Tips believe it did. And I 525 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: think that's a little bit different because on a defense, 526 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: some of these defenses are so multiple that they're basically 527 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: a hybrid scheme, and he was a hybrid and backer 528 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: defensive end. There's a sentiment that this is unfair to 529 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: the players because they're getting tagged at a lower amount. 530 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: It's not like the owners are pocketing this money. They're 531 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: gonna spend to the salary cap, so it goes towards 532 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: other players. I mean, yeah, it's unfair to that guy, 533 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: but on list on the list of unfair things in 534 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: the world, it's pretty far down the list. Jimmy Graham 535 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: is gonna get paid like a top ten wide receiver anyways. 536 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt that he gets a 537 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: long term deal. But I think it'll be like Drew Brees. 538 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: Drew Brees had the tag for a while and he 539 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: held out for a little while in the off season 540 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: when it really didn't matter. Then he got his big contract. 541 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna take care of their guy. I had a 542 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: long list of players that did not get the tag. 543 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: Uh players that I said were close, um but not 544 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: quite worth it, or I didn't think that they would 545 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: get tag. Some of the highlights there b J. Rogie, 546 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: Michael Johnson, Eric Decker, Brandon Albert A Key to leave 547 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: alt Alter on Werner. These are all players I don't 548 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: think we'll get the tag. You can check out there's 549 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: eight teen players long on NFL dot Com. Any of 550 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: those players on that big list that you that either 551 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: I could get wrong or you think should get the tag, 552 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: I think you got them all right. I think the 553 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: one that intrigues me is Eric Decker because the Broncos 554 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: are in such a wind now window with Peyton Manning. 555 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: He's only got one two years left, maybe three if 556 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: I don't even know if his arm can last three 557 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: years at the way he's throwing the ball now. But 558 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: the way he's playing and the way this offense is 559 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: set up, I think it makes some sense to to 560 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: make sure Decker doesn't go anywhere. That makes sense to 561 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: me if the Packers go out and slap any sort 562 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: of a tag on b J. Raji after we've been 563 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: given this uh this this wind that they want to 564 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: reshape their line in dom Caper's image. I don't understand 565 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: the franchise on any level. I think you got that 566 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: one right. Well, if I got it wrong means rap 567 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: sheeat really got it wrong because he he convince to 568 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: me out of putting Rogie. I just going by my theory. 569 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: You don't see good young players walk away. What's the 570 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: tag for defensive tackles? How much? I think it's uh 571 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: eight or nine million, so basically three million a piece 572 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: for each play he's made over the last three years. 573 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: I like, uh, my favorite name of the group, alter 574 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: On Verner. Sounds like he should be like the right 575 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: hand man in like a nineteen fifties space comic book. 576 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: How does someone come up with that name alter On 577 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: vern It's awesome, But that's he gets he's getting killed 578 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: there because I think they've they've gotten mccordy tied down, 579 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: and that sort of sounds like the reason that's not 580 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: happening for him is they've got too much money in 581 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: one position. He's a pro bowler. He had a better 582 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: year than Vante Davis, who I said was getting tagged. 583 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: But I think just with the way the cult scheme 584 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: works and they just have gobs of franchise uh salary 585 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: cap money that I think they'll keep Davis. I don't 586 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: think the Broncos value Decker that highly. I think they 587 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: look at their a group and they see him as 588 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: a guy who's replaceable. That Damarius Thomas not replaceable, Ryan 589 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: Claydy not replaceable, Julius Thomas maybe even not as replaceable, 590 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: but Decker replaces I don't disagree with any of that. 591 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: He's replaceable, but you're going to replace him with somebody 592 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: that means you're gonna have second or third best offense 593 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL instead of the best offense in NFL history. 594 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: But they might think that they can sign someone for 595 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: four or five million dollars a year, kind of like 596 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: they signed Sean Phillips at defensive endor outside linebacker last 597 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: year and that'll do the same thing Deck. Well, they're 598 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: wrong because Eric Decker is very good. They didn't name 599 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: another team that just did had the best offense in 600 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: NFL history. And he's, like you said, if he goes 601 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: and plays number one somewhere, it's the wrong spot. Form 602 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: he's in the ideal spot to have certain games where 603 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: they can feature him and they can overload defenses and 604 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: he can have a huge performance. But a very good player, 605 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: he might not be a number one, and he might 606 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: not be irreplaceable, but you're not gonna have the same 607 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: offense in Denver without him. Before this year, the highest 608 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: scoring offense in NFL history was the New England Patriots 609 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: guy who had some good numbers that year, Dante Stalworth. 610 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: He was pretty replaceable. Well, he can't compare. Those offenses 611 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: were built differently. One I had Randy Moss. I've just 612 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: tried to get Wesley fired all let's move on from 613 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: the franchise tags and we didn't even get to a 614 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: keep to leave who I think is the toughest guided 615 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: the side on. Eventually, I said, he's not going to 616 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: get the tag, but it would really hurt the Patriots 617 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: to lose him. But let's move on, and let's do 618 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: a couple offseason forecasts, and let's start with the St. 619 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: Louis Rams and not the team that has a lot 620 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: of chatter about them this offseason. But there was a 621 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: good conversation on Twitter today and that made us want 622 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: to talk about the Rams. On the podcast, our old 623 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: friend Evan Silva from Rhoda World and NBC Sports posed 624 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: the question who would you rather have Bridgewater or Menzel 625 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: and seven million dollars in cap space or Sam Bradford 626 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: and the number two pick of the NFL draft. Which 627 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: group would you rather have? Would you rather start over 628 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: with door number two the rookies that you don't know, 629 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: or would you rather keep paying Sam Bradford like he's 630 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback? All this is a no brainer 631 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: for me. Give me Johnny Manziel and the cap money. 632 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm with Wes. Why why would you settle for a 633 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: known mediocrity that you're he's gonna hold your franchise hostage. 634 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: I bet Sam Bradford's pay grade he's the only quarterback 635 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: in that in that pay grade who isn't a franchise quarterback. 636 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: Oh well, by it came from a different pay system entirely. 637 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: But it's your right. He's far overpaid for what we've seen. 638 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport responded, he's an above average starting quarterback and 639 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: you know that you have that. My argument be he's 640 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: not above average. He's had a six point four yards 641 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: per attempt average for his career year, which is bordering 642 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: on the Gabbard zone. It's it's very below even last year, 643 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: which everyone that supports Bradford would support as a big 644 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: step forward. He had fourteen touch on four interceptions. They 645 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: were not pushing the ball downfield. They were not really 646 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: an effective passing offense. I don't think he's above average. 647 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: I don't think he's been top twenty so far. And 648 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: so you're paying him so much money and you run 649 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: the risk of making the wrong decision year after year, 650 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: and this is your one chance to pull the rip cord, 651 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: get out of it and get another franchise quarterback. And 652 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: if you're wrong on Bradford, everyone gets fired. You mentioned 653 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: yours per tempt. He's also in the bottom five of 654 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: all NFL starters and completion percentage. There's nothing we've seen 655 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: from him. He's one of the worst in a muddy pocket. 656 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 1: He doesn't handle pressure well. There's nothing we've seen from 657 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: Sam Bradford so far that would make me think that 658 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: he is a top fifteen, top twenty quarterback in the NFL. 659 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: He has the tools, scout scouts salivat over his arm, 660 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: but his arm is really inconsistent. And this isn't the 661 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: first time this has happened. They passed on RG three 662 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: to keep Sambre, so this could be you know this, 663 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: This front office could live or die with Sam here's 664 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: be my one issue. No what but they last year, 665 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: they were completely they sounded completely sold on, we're gonna 666 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: get a new deal done for this guy. Now he's 667 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: coming off you know, a torn a c l to 668 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: to to add to that, but which is no small thing. 669 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: As we've seen from Brady and in r G three, 670 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: here's how you put the whole thing and cement. If 671 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: you go the other way that, if you add Johnny 672 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: Manziel and keep Brian Schottenheimer as your offensive genius. I 673 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: have a big problem with that because I think one 674 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: of the reasons that he's struggling he has had as 675 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator. Now you had McDaniels, so there's no excuse. 676 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: Theory's a creative guy. But Pat Shermer and Brian Schottenheimer 677 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: that is not a list high with ingenius thinkers. In 678 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: fairness to Bradford, he played better before his injury last year, 679 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: after every one already started tuning out the Rams his 680 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: last three or four starts. Remember that massive comeback victory 681 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: he engineered me. Neither have those moments. And I went 682 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: back and looked at Sam Bradford last season. His best 683 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: games came in blowouts when the game was close, he 684 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: didn't play well, and he he tends to play much 685 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: better against bad teams. That's not really what you want 686 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: in the quarterback. It reminds me a little bit of 687 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: guys like JP Lossman or Jason Campbell Byron Left, which 688 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: guys that team stuck with too long. And Bradford he's 689 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: such a hard guy to value because he's not in 690 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: that class of quarterbacks where he's a bust. He is 691 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: a competent starting quarterback. If he was cut, seven or 692 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: eight teams would want him and he would upgrade their 693 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: starting quarterback position, which is significant. I mean, he is 694 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: better than plenty of starters out there. But if you're 695 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: gonna pay him that sort of money and you're gonna 696 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: keep passing on top five picks or top two picks 697 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: in order to keep him, you know you gotta look 698 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 1: at opportunity costs. You could be making the wrong decision 699 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: on Bradford over and over, and you've got to be 700 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: so confident that he's your guy. I don't see it 701 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: that much differently than the Bengals, in my opinion, doing 702 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: the wrong thing if they if they get sold on 703 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton for a number three or four more years 704 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: while this window, whatever it is in Cincinnati, which I'm 705 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: not sure I by to begin with, shuts closed. And 706 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: the Rams aren't a super Bowl looming team. They're the 707 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: worst team in that division, but they're not a bad 708 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: football team. They've got a great defense. And what if 709 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: you plugged in a quarterback that suddenly made it go. 710 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not exactly what Bradford hasn't done. He 711 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: is about one of the He's a hard watch. I 712 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: think he's a he's he's part of a doll offense 713 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: and he's part of the reason. In my book, I 714 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: totally agree. And there's this their sentiment that Bradford gets 715 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: a pass because he doesn't have good surrounding talent. This 716 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: exercises to the last week looking how rosters were constructed 717 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: was pretty informative. On that note, the Rams have put 718 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: more early round draft picks in the wide receiver than 719 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: most teams. You've got Tavon Austin number eight overall, Brian Quick, 720 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 1: second rounder, Stephen and Bailey third rounder, Austin Pettis third rounder. 721 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: They've got another fourth rounder if for get who that was. 722 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: Their tight end is one of the highest paid in 723 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: the league. In Jared Cook. He's got weapons, and we've 724 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: seen other quarterbacks where they don't do well. A guy's 725 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: getting paid a lot of money, then the backup comes 726 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: in and all of a sudden, the offense moves. He's 727 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: an enigma to me. I don't you guys sound more 728 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: down on him than I am. When I really look 729 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: back and watch five or six of his tapes last year, 730 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: I think he was just an enigma. I mean, he's 731 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: a tough guy to put your finger on and say 732 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: he's definitely the guy, or he's definitely not. He is 733 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: after Dalton, it could be after Bradford. To me, he 734 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: is kind of that line where you don't quite know, 735 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: but there are moments where you think maybe he's got 736 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: a chance. Funny you say enigma. I think when I 737 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 1: wrote about him last year, I called him an enigma 738 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: wrapped in a ribble riddle, covered in secret sauce or 739 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: something like that. He's the hardest quarterback in the NFL 740 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: to figure out. And when they brought Kellen Clemens in, 741 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that Kellen Clemens is just as 742 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: good as him, It's not the case at all, but 743 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: they went they went total run heavy, They won games. 744 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: They won games, but they was there that much of 745 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: a gaping difference between what they were competitive? I thought 746 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: so too. Maybe they're a different they Maybe they need 747 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: to be more of a run heavy, physical team. We 748 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: were not gonna spend too much more time on the rams. 749 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: We could talk about Courtland Finn again. He's really the 750 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 1: other big question. He's gonna need to take a massive 751 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: pay cut, um, in order to stay on the team. 752 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: It might be tough to negotiate that pay cut because 753 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: his agent is in jail right now. That's that's a 754 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 1: true story. Um. Let's move on to the Carolina Panthers 755 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: in their off season forecast. What an intriguing team this is. 756 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: We mentioned Greg Hardy, He's a franchise nominee. I would say, 757 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean a very likely franchise player. Captain munterlind is 758 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: a free agent. They have a lot of other questions, Chris, 759 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: you did this offseason four cast. What's your big takeaway? 760 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: What are the big things you're looking for out of 761 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: this team this offseason? They have twenty six free agents, 762 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: which I believe is the second most in the NFL. 763 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: You mentioned Hardy in Munderland Jordan's gross is a big one, 764 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 1: played at a Pro Bowl level at left tackle last year. 765 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: Is now a stage of his career where he's contemplating 766 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 1: retirement and his two options are played for the Panthers 767 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: or retire. He doesn't want to play for anyone else. 768 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: That's a big decision. They need to draft and maybe 769 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: even also signed a playmaking wide receiver, a successor to 770 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: Steve Smith and a compliment to Steve Smith because Brandon 771 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: LaFell and Ted Ginn are both free agents. Think Greg 772 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: Olsen is a little overpaid for this team. He's gonna 773 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: be He's gonna take up almost eight million in salary 774 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: cap space. I saw you list him as on the 775 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: way out question mark. That's where we list potential cut. 776 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's any chance greg Olsen 777 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 1: gets cut. Come on, he's he was their most consistent receiver. 778 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: That's because look at the rest of the receivers. He 779 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: was not a Pro Bowl caliber tight end. And he's 780 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: making too much money for that. Would you rather have 781 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: Greg Hardy at eleven million or Greg Olsen for eight million? 782 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: Why can't you have them both? Well, their salary cap 783 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 1: says you might not be able to turn shape. Sep 784 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,919 Speaker 1: was they can figure it out. Teams always figured out. 785 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: You pushed the money in the future, greg Olsen, you 786 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 1: don't get better as a as a receiving team by 787 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: cutting one of your good receivers. Well, they also have 788 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: I think maybe he's only five million instead of seven million, 789 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: But that's not that bag. I think that we disagree 790 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: on how good Greg Olsen is. I think they have 791 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: four of their five top defensive backs or free agents too, 792 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: which I mean, you know, everyone thought that's the weakness 793 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: of that defense. I thought, because the front seven is 794 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: so good, they weren't a weakness last year in the 795 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: sense they held their own. But if you lose three 796 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: of those five guys, the depth behind them is where 797 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: things start to fall. My guess is that their front 798 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: office and coaching staff sees those guys as replaceable. God 799 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: Free for instance, gone well, he only played two games 800 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 1: last year, and then him Mike Mitchell was found off 801 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: the scrap heap. Quentin Michael signed in over the summer 802 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: in free agency. You know, those guys are replaceable, and uh, 803 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: I think I think the Panthers think that with their 804 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: front seven, no matter who they put in the secondary, 805 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: they've got a pretty easy job back there. Do they 806 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: bring back Captain Munneley. That's a good question. They had 807 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: him on a one year thing last year, right, Yeah, 808 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 1: and no one I think it was a restricted free 809 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: agent last year, wasn't he? And that's just stuff the 810 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: top matic could be wrong on that, but he is 811 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: one of those guys that had the best year of 812 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: his life in the perfect time and just looks like 813 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 1: a guy that's going to get overpaid in free agency. 814 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: I mean, or maybe he's worth it, but he's gonna 815 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 1: get paid a lot. He's he's one of those guys 816 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 1: who's suited more to the slot. He's more of a 817 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: nickel corner who's forced to play outside. He's gonna have 818 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: numbers like sacks and pick six is because he has 819 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: good instincts, but he's not a guy who's gonna go 820 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: out and shut down your outside receiver. Every time Gett 821 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: Dave Gettleman talks the gentlemanager over and over, it sounds 822 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: like this weight on his shoulders and it would be 823 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: a fere GM. He talks about the cap that we've 824 00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: got to get out of this cap hell that we're in. 825 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,240 Speaker 1: So this one team that's not gonna overpay for anyone 826 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: this offseason. I don't think, Well, if they have to 827 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: place the tag on Hardy, which I think they'll either 828 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: sign them long term, which should be a better number 829 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,720 Speaker 1: than the cap than placing the franchise tag number on him. 830 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 1: That Sefty wants a crapload of money, was what he 831 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough. I mean, if you're paying Greg 832 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: Hardy eleven million man, that takes up a lot of space. 833 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: Charles Johnson is taking up a lot of space. On 834 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 1: the other side, you have your running backs are very overpaid. 835 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to say goodbye to some people. Yeah, 836 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to make some tough decisions. I agree 837 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: with you, though, I think you have to keep Hardy. 838 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: You can't just let the second best free agent on 839 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: the market walk away at age. Well, Jordan Gross uh 840 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: is a free agent. Maybe there's talk that he could 841 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: retire or resign with the Panthers. Maybe you just say 842 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: goodbye to Jordan Gross. Maybe you say goodbye to Captain Munderland. 843 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,280 Speaker 1: Jordan Gross will be an awfully hard guy to lose. 844 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: Their offensive line early last year was abysmal. In September, 845 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: and then they signed Travel Wharton, who came in and 846 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: basically saved the day, solidified that offensive. Hold On, I've 847 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: just gotten word from Dan we have to stop the 848 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: podcast and Warton and a deep dig into Jordan Gross. Sorry, well, 849 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: I think that this offensive line in the last two years, 850 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: there have been stages where they've been awfully bad, and 851 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: they solidified it from October on last year. If you 852 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: take away Jordan Gross, you're going back to the stage 853 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: where you're not gonna be able to run the ball 854 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: as well, You're not gonna be able to pass protect 855 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,439 Speaker 1: as well. In the offense, isn't gonna be isn't gonna 856 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: be able to hold up its fair share of the weight. 857 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: And you have to save some cap room for Cam 858 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: Newton's extension because I think he's getting that contract this offseason. 859 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 1: I would be stunned if he doesn't. It just makes 860 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: too much sense to do that. Maybe you just go 861 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: in with seven people in your offense. This is a 862 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: team that was so good and we loved him, and 863 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: I think they're rising, but it's one of those teams 864 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: I think has an uphill battle to repeat. They're gonna 865 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: have to be better to eat to put up that 866 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: same record again because the division is gonna get better, 867 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: and they're not. They're a roster with a lot of issues. 868 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: We didn't even mention wide receiver. I mean, they'd love 869 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: to be able to go sign a wide receiver. That's 870 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: not gonna happen with with the cap problems and with Hardy, 871 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: and they're not getting rid of Olsen. No matter what 872 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: you say, Wesley, nobody repeats in the NFC cell. That's 873 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 1: been true for year after year. That's a fact. Alright, 874 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: are coming up, you guys? Happy with this podcast? Award winner, 875 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: part of an award winning show. Yes, in its own 876 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: perhaps not the award winning episode, but who knows. We 877 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: have to go back and listen to that. Frankly, if 878 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: if Nolan Iraqi was here, I think he would say, 879 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: we carry a sense of entitlement, a prima donna arrogance, 880 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: and we're seeking out the bright lights of Hollywood performance. 881 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: I think there's some truth in that. There's an underlying truth. Well, 882 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: we are, we're gonna come back this week. This isn't 883 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 1: gonna be it. We're gonna do another show that's gonna 884 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: go up Wednesday, and then we'll also have a podcast 885 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: going up on Saturday from Indianapolis. So we'll recap what 886 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: we've learned so far in Indianapolis on Saturday, and we'll 887 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 1: be back next week with our normal Monday, Wednesday Friday 888 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: schedule to really recap the combines start looking ahead to 889 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: free agency. And that's it for Chris Wesseling, Mark Sessler, 890 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: Cove behind the Glass. Thank you for chiming in. You 891 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,280 Speaker 1: know what, you know, you're not quite the gold standard, 892 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 1: but maybe like the silver with the bronze man at 893 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: least on the Mount Rushmore of h t L podcast 894 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: producers by mentioning Mount Rushmore, you are not on it. 895 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: Done with Mount Rushmore. No more rount ushmurs, please goods? 896 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,800 Speaker 1: And are we on the Mount Rushmore of Around the 897 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: League host? Only because we're still looking even for well, no, 898 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean all of us. I've never heard of us. 899 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: All right, I'm just gonna say it, Mount Rushmore of 900 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: Around the League host Westling handsas me and Henry Wow. 901 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,879 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I don't even know what that means. 902 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: All right, the outro like five minutes ago for Chris Westley, 903 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,479 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler copy behind the Glass. I'm Greg Rostall until 904 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: win