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Speaker 1: Welcome in. We'll drive you the great episode three point

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Speaker 1: thirty after one of the most consequential nights in recent

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Speaker 1: NBA history, when you combine the draft lottery going the

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Speaker 1: way it did, the impact that is going to have

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Speaker 1: on not only the future of three super relevant teams

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Speaker 1: with respect to the Hornets and the Wizards, who are

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Speaker 1: course the San Antonio Spurs, and then also what appears

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Speaker 1: to be something of a devastating injury for Jason Tatum

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Speaker 1: and the fact that the New York Knicks We're gonna

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Speaker 1: win that game even if Tatum didn't get hurt, and

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Speaker 1: what that meant for the Celtics long term. This is

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Speaker 1: a night Windy said it right after the first game

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Speaker 1: that the is gonna have reverberations for honestly for years

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Speaker 1: to come, and before we get to any of that,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure I'll expand on this more later and

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Speaker 1: before i even bring in Demnsey. And this is something

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Speaker 1: where I'm probably gonna hurt some people's feelings, and I

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Speaker 1: Am probably gonna hurt some coworkers feelings, and I don't care.

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Speaker 1: There are some times we get real, in live action,

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Speaker 1: in the moment, impromptu IQ tests for the general public,

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Speaker 1: and one of them is this, do you think the

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Speaker 1: NBA Draft lottery is rigged? Because if you think it is,

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Speaker 1: you're kind of dumb. Now you might be like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not dumb. Explain the odds of these things. And the

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Speaker 1: answer to that question is go to your local community college.

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Speaker 1: You can probably get courses for seventy dollars a credit

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Speaker 1: hour and take in introduction to probability and statistics. And

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Speaker 1: what you'll learn is the thing about things that have

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Speaker 1: a one point eight percent chance of occurring, is they

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Speaker 1: occur one point eight percent of the time. And when

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Speaker 1: you have a bunch of teams, all of whom have

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Speaker 1: a like So here is the simplest way to explain it.

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Speaker 1: And I knew it. I'm not gonna name names, but

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Speaker 1: I knew there would be people working on this show.

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Speaker 1: Might be one person co hosting the show I'm going

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Speaker 1: to bring in a bit who's like, well, obviously it

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Speaker 1: might be rigged. I know that I'm a jerk for

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Speaker 1: calling you guys dumb, and I'm not saying you're dumb.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I did just say that you're just dumber than

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Speaker 1: you think you are. So here is like the most

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Speaker 1: simple way to look at it from a probability perspective.

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Speaker 1: What are the odds of any one person winning the

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Speaker 1: power ball? Like is it like one point four billion

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Speaker 1: zero zero one hundred times one percent that someone's going

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Speaker 1: to win it? But someone always wins it. So how

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Speaker 1: does that happen? You had one in a billion you

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Speaker 1: had there are more people, there's not a billion people

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Speaker 1: billion to one shot. That's how That's how probability and

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Speaker 1: statistics work. Also, the idea that the firm Ernst and

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Speaker 1: Young is gonna be like listen, been around for about

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Speaker 1: one hundred years. We have a super profitable business. We

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Speaker 1: also have a side business where we rig the NBA

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Speaker 1: Draft lottery for reasons that aren't totally clear. Like the

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Speaker 1: latest conspiracy is if you trade with the Lakers, you

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Speaker 1: get the number one pick. But that of course is

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Speaker 1: idiotic because Anthony Davis. Because like they traded Davis, they

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Speaker 1: got Zion. The NBA didn't want Zion to go to

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Speaker 1: New Orleans. It was a disaster for everyone. The moment

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Speaker 1: it happened. Well, the the NBA called in is sent in, listen,

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Speaker 1: trade Luca to the to the Lakers and we'll get

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Speaker 1: you Cooper Flag. And the part of that story that

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Speaker 1: folks are ignoring is the Dallas Mavericks were won a

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Speaker 1: playing the Memphis Grizzlies in a game that if they won,

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Speaker 1: they don't even have any ping pong balls. That was

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Speaker 1: so neat, Like how how big does the conspiracy go? Boys?

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Speaker 1: People are just And there's five teams that if they

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Speaker 1: Spurs won it, we would have said rigged, duh, Wimby

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Speaker 1: Oh you gotta you're you gotta get him be a lifeline.

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Speaker 1: There's like more teams that you would have called it

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Speaker 2: Not would have made people call it the most rigged though,

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Speaker 1: But every whoa right. But people did the same ship

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Speaker 1: with Wimby. Oh of course, the like the Spurs, they

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Speaker 1: right from Duncan into Wimby. People reverse engineer these conspiracies

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Speaker 1: here's the problem with the conspiracy. The draft lottery is now. Listen,

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Speaker 1: all conspiracies are not created equal that. Do I think

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Speaker 1: forty years ago, when the process was the commissioner picking

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Speaker 1: That's not idiotic because that's easy to execute and one

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Speaker 1: the reason I'm leading the show with it is because

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Speaker 1: they're just not that they're not as bright as they

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Speaker 1: You now know it. So I'm sorry. And like I said,

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Speaker 1: I know I'm hurting some people's feelings today and I

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Speaker 1: know that, but it's just idiotic. Now before we get

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Speaker 1: because today is a tough day for Demandacaus Demonde's a

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Speaker 1: I have one other note which will shock you, pal,

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Speaker 1: that is, but she for years ran the NBA Players Association.

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Speaker 1: She's the lady who famously during the lockout, Patrick Beverly

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Speaker 1: Now retired day before yesterday. Your mom and I are

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Speaker 1: swear to God? She was like, he's so funny, he's

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Speaker 1: Not that she liked you, but I would. Whenever someone

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Speaker 1: So I find it very touching. But she would, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that is awesome.

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Speaker 2: It certainly shocks me.

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Speaker 1: You being the league guy. She goes up, She's like, oh, no, listen, no,

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Speaker 1: We'll do in the NFL schedule release stuff on Thursday. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Chicago got Super Bowl bets increased after the pope was

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Speaker 1: the news of the night, which, after we tried to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll get to the game later. But obviously

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Speaker 2: unfortunately Tatum most likely has like a season ending injury. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on the Celtics circumstances right now?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's pretty clearly. And by the way, to

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Speaker 1: the producers, even the ones I might have unintentionally just

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, and throw Demans back on the screen

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Speaker 1: because demanse like, fourteen months ago, fifteen months ago, you

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Speaker 1: I I try not to complain too much about how

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Speaker 1: one thing that I really don't like, just because I think,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it's my own fault, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: from them suffering a devastating injury. For Jason Tatum individually,

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Speaker 1: have to be given credit. And this is where the

428
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: stuff I've been arguing with Wilds about all series, I

429
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: think came into fruition. So much of the series analysis

430
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: when the Knicks were up to oh and certainly after

431
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: Game three, was the Celtics haven't played well. The Celtics

432
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: are missing shots. And what to me that ignored was

433
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: a couple of facts. One is, the Knicks had not

434
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: played well offensively, and the Celtics not playing well offensively

435
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: was attributed just to missing shots, and the Knicks not

436
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: playing well offensively was attributed to the Celtics great defense.

437
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: Both of those had a shred of truth to them,

438
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: but were not entirely true. The other piece of it

439
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: that I thought was kind of miss represented in the

440
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: discussion of the game was while the Celtics shoot weigh

441
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: more threes than the Knicks, they are not a better

442
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: from a percentage three point shooting team than the Knicks.

443
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: The Celtics this year shot thirty six point eight percent

444
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: from three. The Knicks this year shot thirty six point

445
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: nine percent from three. The Celtics were the number two offense,

446
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: the Knicks were the number five offense. And the Knicks

447
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: had not played offensively well in this series. And so

448
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: when the going into last night's game, the Celtics in

449
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: the series were shooting thirty two percent from three. The

450
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: Knicks were shooting thirty three percent from three, and so

451
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: both teams were down four or five points off their

452
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: season three point percentage. Both team star players Tatum and

453
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: Brunson going into last night had not yet had that

454
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: awesome game, that explosion game, and so much of analysis was, well,

455
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen when Tatum has this huge game? And

456
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: my response to it was, I don't know, but what's

457
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: gonna happen when Brunton has his huge game? And then

458
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: they happened simultaneously, and the Knicks had control of that game.

459
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: And now in the series, the Knicks are shooting thirty

460
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: three point nine percent from three and the Celtics are

461
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: shooting thirty three point five percent from three, So almost

462
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: identical for two teams that shot almost identical for the

463
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: regular season. And the Knicks top six guys are all

464
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: healthy prior to the Tatum injury, I'm saying, and the

465
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: Celtics top six guys, you're missing Christaps essentially, like he

466
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: can barely play, and when he plays, he hasn't been effective.

467
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: And I thought the Knicks last night, for people that

468
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: hadn't watched them throughout the year and I understand all

469
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: year long they couldn't beat the best teams, There's no

470
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: doubt about that, but they were They weren't last year's

471
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: Knicks that were just gonna try to grind you down

472
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: when they they were an explosive offense, and Knights when

473
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: Michale Bridges and Ognnobi are scoring, that team's got four

474
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: legitimate scoring threats. And Brunton was awesome. Towns I thought

475
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: was really good. I mean, Towns was eleven of twelve

476
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: from two and Bridges in the second half seemingly could

477
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: not miss a mid range and the Knicks just looked

478
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: freaking awesome. And so the the Tatum injury casts a

479
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: pale pal Paul Castle, Paul, What's casts a pale over

480
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 1: the game? I think, is what I'm trying to say.

481
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: How about this? Did you say shadow works? Yeah, that's

482
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: what I was. I should have just said shadow. I

483
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: can pronounce that word, spell it too. The Tatum injury

484
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: casts a shadow over the game. But in my opinion,

485
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: the one of the underrated stories of the Celtics blowing

486
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: the Knicks out in Game three was Peyton Pritchard playing

487
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: an a triple plus game, And is that I know, listen,

488
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: pay for six Man of the Year is good player,

489
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: but twenty three points on like eighty percent from the

490
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: field or whatever he was is probably not gonna happen

491
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: too many times. And the underrated story to me of

492
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: this series that you saw last night was the Celtics.

493
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: Two old guys have looked a little old. Yeah in

494
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: Alan Drew like they you know what I mean, they

495
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: have they just and last night they were both non factors.

496
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: You add to that that Jalen Brown little inefficient and

497
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: as you you know, as usual loose with the ball,

498
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: and you have a game that, after being down big,

499
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: the Knicks find themselves up nine with three minutes left.

500
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: And so I think the Knicks deserve massive, massive credit

501
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: for what they did. And I want to add one

502
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: thing before we get to Brunson, and I can't. So

503
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: after they went up two, Zho, I came on here

504
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: and I said, the Knicks are going to the finals.

505
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: I now believe the Knicks have a really good chance

506
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: of winning the championship. Demonse, Yeah, I do.

507
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: Well, I show they can get past the Celtics, and

508
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: then I certainly think they can get past the Pacers.

509
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: All right, Listen, the Pacers beat them last year in

510
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: seven in a game where in that game seven, the

511
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: Knicks had four guys out with injury. I I would

512
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: certainly pick the Knicks over the Timberwolves. I we'll get

513
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: to that series later. The Timberwolves, We'll get to that

514
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: series later. I will certainly pick the Knicks over the Timberwolves.

515
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: And I want to see what type of condition the

516
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: Thunder or Nuggets are after their series, because the Thunder

517
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: have the depth that if somebody gets banged up other

518
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: than Shay, they can keep it rolling. The Nuggets do not.

519
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: And the Nuggets having you know, these seven game wars

520
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: potentially in round one and two if they get through it,

521
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: and then they have that just pain in the ass

522
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: Timbrelves team waiting for him who beat them last year,

523
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be a quick series. You just wonder because

524
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: you're already seeing Joker leak a little bit of oil.

525
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: And so I the Knicks could win the championship. Oh,

526
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: by the way, one last next thing for where you

527
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: get to Brunson. So I'm watching the game last night,

528
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: so let me give a little So I play in

529
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: a relatively speaking, low stakes poker game that uh Hank

530
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: Azaria and uh name drop. Apologies, but the guy who

531
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: does the voices for two thirds of the Simpsons characters,

532
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: great comedian actor all that. I got hooked up with

533
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: him through Brian Koppleman, another name drop, the guy who

534
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: created Billions and Rounders. And the reason I got hooked

535
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: up with any of these guys is because Koppleman is

536
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: buddies with Bamani and Koppleman's a huge Jordan fan. And

537
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: Koppleman hit up Bamani one night and was like, invite

538
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: Nick to dinner. I want to argue with him about

539
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: Lebron versus Jordan. And we did, and we became buddies,

540
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: and he got me in their poker crew and they're

541
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: great guys, like really cool, great guys. And it's a

542
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: great poker game because again it's low stakes, so it's

543
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: not like high stress. You don't have to worry about

544
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: getting cheated. It's not there's none of the a lot

545
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: of the New York City home poker games. There's a

546
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of it's also a lot of

547
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: sketchy elements, like people go to the games not necessarily

548
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: for the poker, for the things around. Yes, and so

549
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: this is so this is better. So there's a guy

550
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: at the game who's I don't I don't want to

551
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: age him, but you know, I think probably late fifties,

552
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: maybe early sixties, I'm not sure, but like cool looking,

553
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: like wears like cool sunglasses and kind of wears his

554
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: hair cool and just kind of One time flippantly talked

555
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: about how he had just come back from London. I

556
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh, why were you in London? And and

557
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: again I don't want to give this too much of

558
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: this guy's info because there's four huge soccer clubs in London,

559
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: maybe more. And he's like, oh, I have a box,

560
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: a luxury box at one of the most famous soccer teams.

561
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: So I go every weekend they have a game, fly

562
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: to London for the game, and fly back because I

563
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: have a box at the game. Damn, congrats on all

564
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: your success. And he was and he was like, oh, yeah,

565
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: you ever want to come? He was like, if you

566
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: and your wife want to do a weekend in London, like, come,

567
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: we'll go to the game. I'm like, I'm like, I

568
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a real invite or not, but yes,

569
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: I'll do it. Never been to London. So I'm watching

570
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: the game last night and on the sideline next to

571
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: Tibbs is my pal another name drops. Sorry, I sound

572
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: like an asshole, Gary Veey, Gary Vee with his two

573
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: boys in the best seats in the house and the

574
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: only seats better than Gary Vees once seet over, it's

575
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: my buddy from the Card Game. So I text another

576
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: one of my buddies from the Card Game like, Hey,

577
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: is that such and such. He's like, yeah, those are

578
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: his season tickets. Like his season tickets. He's like, yeah,

579
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: best seats at the house house in MSG. He'll take

580
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: you whenever you want. I'm like, okay, I'm not gonna

581
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: ask him to take me during the Knicks run to

582
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: the finals. But I and and then he was like, yeah,

583
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: he gives his pair of tickets to my son and

584
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: one of his friends once a year. I'm like, this

585
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: guy might be the greatest guy. Why am I? Hey?

586
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: Why am I friends with Kevin Wilds and not? This

587
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: guy is unbelievable. I couldn't believe. It was truly unbelievable.

588
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, it was great. Ask the Brunton question.

589
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: So Brunson almost shot forty last night. Do you think well,

590
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: he's the best Knicks player since who Mellow? Are we

591
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 2: putting him above Mellow because Mellow is just.

592
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: So he is not yet above Mellow.

593
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: In like, Daniel, what in the other room he's Oh,

594
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: now he's not better than Mellow.

595
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: Well, so let me finish the thought, Daniel, I guess, Daniel, Well,

596
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: I get yeah, I was yeah, uh, he's not above Mellow.

597
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: In my if I did a play my player pyramid,

598
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: like all time, if if Jalen Brunson retires today, is

599
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: he one of the forty five greatest players ever? Like

600
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: Carmelo is obviously not right, Like we all agree on

601
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: that that he has not yet had a better career

602
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: than Carmelo Anthony. But if the question is was he

603
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: a better ni the answer to that is yes, yeah

604
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: he is. Yeah, so that's why, Yeah, that's that. That's

605
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: what I was. I I had to build the whole bridge, Dan,

606
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: I think they're now agreeing with me. I I think

607
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: that he's pretty clearly the best Knick since Patrick Ewing,

608
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: the best not the best player to play for the Knicks,

609
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: but the best Nick since Patrick Ewing.

610
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: And if you win the finals this year, like if

611
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: you were to win the finals this year.

612
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: Oh wow, probably not yet, but he would be a

613
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: favorite to have one if they win.

614
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: I guess if they win the title and he's the lead.

615
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: Guy ship and he's the lead guy, So like what

616
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: lead guys on a champion? Do I have mellow ahead

617
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: of so Chauncey? Yeah, I mean I the is that

618
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: the only one? So? Well, Tatum, I have a mellow

619
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: right now? You know what I mean. But again though,

620
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: that's kind of let me not do the guys who

621
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: are still playing, because they're still kind of you know,

622
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: well they're still writing their stories so to speak. But no,

623
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: so let no, I'll include them. So let's just oh,

624
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: this will be fun? Can I Can I do it again? Demonse?

625
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: Remember one who did this five years ago? Was it

626
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 1: fifty or old the top fifty? I think I did?

627
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: Did I? I think I did? League MVPs League v

628
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: But let's just yeah, let's just see if I can

629
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: do it. Just go backwards for Champions twenty four Tatum

630
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: and then again. So the question is this question? Is

631
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: this uh all right? Because if Brunton wins the title,

632
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: does he jump mellow in the all time hierarchy? And

633
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: my answer is not yet. But then the question is

634
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: lead guy on a champion? Which of these guys do

635
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: I have mellow ahead of? So now I'll just try

636
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: to go backwards in history and do lead guys on

637
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: champions twenty four Tatum Melos ahead of him, twenty three,

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00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: Joker No. Twenty two, Steph No. Twenty one, Yannis No.

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00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: Twenty Bronz nineteen Kawhi No. It's close though, because Kawhi's

640
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: weird career eighteen seventeen Steph kt kt Steph No. No.

641
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: Sixteen bron fifteen, Steph No. No. Fourteen Again Kawhi Duncan.

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00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: Kawhi wasn't the best player on the team. I should

643
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: have just said Duncan but No. Thirteen twelve, Bron No. Eleven,

644
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: Dirk No. Ten to nine, Kobe No. Eight, Garnet No.

645
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Speaker 1: If you think Pierce my answers, yes, I do have

646
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: mellow above Pierce. Sorry, Paul, so that's too maybe, but

647
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: I think Garnett was the best player on that team.

648
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: Seven Duncan No. Six, Wage Shack No. Five, Duncan No. Four,

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00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: Chauncey Yes, so we're three uh three Duncan No. Two

650
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: to one zero Again those are the years uh Shack No.

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00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: Ninety nine, Duncan No. Ninety eight, ninety seven, ninety six,

652
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: Jordan No. Ninety five, ninety four, Akeem No. Ninety three,

653
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: ninety two, ninety one, Jordan No. Ninety eighty nine, Isaiah No.

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00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: Eighty eight, eighty seven, Uh Magic's slash Kareem No. Uh

655
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Speaker 1: eighty six, Bird No. Eighty five, Magic Slash Careem No.

656
00:49:52,000 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: Eighty four, Hold on a second here eighty four, Oh

657
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Speaker 1: eighty four Magic Kaream Wait eighty five was magic kaream

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00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 1: eighty four Celtics Bird No. Eighty three, Lakers Right eighty

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Speaker 1: three Lakers eighty two six ers and seventy six ers

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Speaker 1: Moses Uh Doctor j No. Eighty one, Celtics No. Eighty

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00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,959
Speaker 1: Lakers No. And then you get to seventy nine eighty

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00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: and you get to the weird ABA NBA Merger stuff,

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00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: and you have the Wizard. So you'd in the last

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Speaker 1: forty five years, I would. The only guys I had

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00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: were Tatum, Pierson Chauncey. So I know my answer is no,

666
00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: he wouldn't yet be above mellow, but he would be root.

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00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: But he's already a better nick and the real like

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00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: if here's another question, No, he wouldn't even with a championship.

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Speaker 1: He's not above viewing either yet. But I mean the

670
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: he now is is jailing. Here's another question. God, we're

671
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00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: at this stuff. Here's a better question. Maybe is Jalen

673
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 1: Brunson now on the mount Rushmore of Knicks read Fraser

674
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: Ewing are three locks. I think Brunson's four. Willis Reid's

675
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: got finals MVPs. One of the greatest players ever, Walt Fraser.

676
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: And again for the kids out there in the Demons,

677
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: you've heard of the Willis Reid game. The game Willis

678
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: Reid was injured and he came out on one leg,

679
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: hit two jumpers, crowd exploded. Thing about that game is

680
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: those are the only two shots he made all game.

681
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: He was too injured to play. The reason the Knicks

682
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: won that game seven of those finals was because Walt

683
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: Fraser had thirty six points and nineteen assists thirty six

684
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: and nineteen and a game seven of the finals to

685
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: win the championship. So Reid and Fraser are on there.

686
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: Ewing is on there. I think Brunson's now on there.

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00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 2: He's got to win the title or something to get there.

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00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: Well, the problem is. But here's the thing, Demons, only

689
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: Reid and Fraser have won the title. Yeah, like the guy.

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00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,200
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Speaker 1: All right, demanse, let's get to the other game from

730
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: last night if we can. We still have a lot

731
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,959
Speaker 1: to do. This is going a long time, but such

732
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: as life, go ahead.

733
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Minnesota's won the third straight with Steph on the

734
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 2: sideline Julius and and coming off thirty point games. But

735
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: with seeing how this series has gone, you feel a

736
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 2: little out of line and saying that Minnesota would have

737
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: beat them even if they had Steph Curry out there.

738
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. I have been as unimpressed with

739
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: a team that's up three to one in a series

740
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 1: as one can be. So here's what I can't figure out, demonsee.

741
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: Did the Timberwolves see Steph was out and just feel

742
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: like we're not gonna lose and because of that they

743
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: are not playing their best basketball? Or did they? Did

744
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: they essentially or were they a specifically bad matchup for

745
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: the Lakers, Plus the Lakers making some very odd lineup

746
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: decisions and guys running out of gas and all that

747
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: and because of that, we o me. I overestimated them,

748
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: because I thought that the Timberwolves were going to run

749
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: rough shot over the Warriors. And I would love to

750
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: sit here and be like, ah, this series would be

751
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: the same as Steph Curry was playing. It sure don't

752
00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: feel like that. It feels like Minnesota has gotten an

753
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: absolute gift from the fact that they are able to play.

754
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: I think Minnesota, I know there's gonna sound idiotic. I

755
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,439
Speaker 1: think Minnesota has played mediocre or worse Demonsey in five

756
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: straight games. The close out game against the Lakers, I

757
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: didn't think they played that well. And I don't think

758
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: they've played great in any game this series, and they

759
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: find themselves up three to one. Now where credit is

760
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: due is Julius Randall. This entire postseason is rewriting what

761
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: playoff Julius means. And Anthony Edwards after a couple shaky performances,

762
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: you know it is getting back to being you know,

763
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: unequivocally Anthony Edwards. But their role players have been disappointing.

764
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: The fact that they are their defense is letting a

765
00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: Warriors team without Steph Curry stick around in these games. Now,

766
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: last night, I give him credit because last night they

767
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: slammed the door. I know. They ended up winning only

768
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: by seven, and the Warriors almost had another historic back

769
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: door cover like if you didn't stay the Warriors back

770
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: door cover in Game three, which was truly financially devastating

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00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: for me. After taking a break from betting the NBA playoffs,

772
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: I got back on the horse four Game three, laid

773
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: five and a half with Minnesota, only to see Draymond

774
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: Green reportedly allegedly possibly say to his teammates spreads five

775
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: and a half, and then they took a totally meaningless

776
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: three and then didn't foul and just crushed me. Last night,

777
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: though they were up twenty midway through the fourth, so

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00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: after you know, not being overwhelming early because it was

779
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: what they were forget overwhelming, they were down two at halftime.

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00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: They blitzed the Warriors in the third quarter to go

781
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: up twenty going into the fourth, and then held that

782
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: lead until, of course the very end. When I say devastating,

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00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: if you weren't watching the end of this game, the

784
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: Timberwolves demanse are up eight with thirty seconds left. Again

785
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: they're five point favorites. They then foul the lacrosse kid.

786
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: He makes both free throws. I'm sorry they weren't up eight.

787
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: They were up Wait, oh no, I this is so

788
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: much worse than I was making it sound. Let me

789
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: rephrase it. Timberwlves are five point favorites. They are up

790
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: twelve with thirty seconds left twelve. They then foul the

791
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: lacrosse kid makes both free throws. They then throw the

792
00:59:54,720 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: inbounds away. Guie Santos makes a three. There's now five

793
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: seconds left. They're up seven. They then throw the inbounds

794
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: pass away again and Quentin Post shoots a three. He

795
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: misses it, but that would have been up twelve thirty

796
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: seconds left. The team just basically dribbling it out to

797
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: not covering a five point spread. Now, I didn't bet

798
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: last night's game, so I couldn't even take advantage of that.

799
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: But whatever set that aside. I have been unimpressed by

800
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:39,959
Speaker 1: Minnesota and they better get up their level of play

801
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: so dramatically for the next round. Uh. And then I

802
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: know you have a Jimmy what's going on with that man?

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01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: It's going on with Jimmy Butler?

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01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: Does he not know why they said do it every night?

805
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: He can't do it every night? And even peak playoff

806
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: Jimmy wouldn't do it every night. So that's the So listen,

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01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: that's the misnomer about playoff Jimmy that I don't think

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01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: people quite remember. So playoff Jimmy even like in the Bubble, Okay,

809
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: he he had these he would have these huge games,

810
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: like en route to the championship. I know it's he's

811
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: not just a scorer. But I'm just gonna read you

812
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: the year, not the year they made the finals. In

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01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: the Bubble. Here were his points twenty eight, eighteen, twenty seven, six,

814
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: forty thirteen, thirty, seventeen, seventeen, twenty fourteen, seventeen, twenty four, seventeen,

815
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: twenty two, and then in the finals twenty three, twenty five, forty,

816
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: twenty two, thirty five, twelve, and then two years ago

817
01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: when they made the finals U well, or even take

818
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: that series against Boston that they lost in seven, here

819
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: were his points forty one, twenty nine, eight, six, thirteen,

820
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: forty seven, thirty five. In the finals, he had the

821
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: fifty six point game, in the forty two point game.

822
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: He was unbelievable. But they I'm sorry that wasn't the finals.

823
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: That's the first round. The next year, I because he

824
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: made the finals that year. He had that unbelievable first

825
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: round against Milwaukee where he scored thirty five, twenty five,

826
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: thirty fifty six and forty two. The rest of the

827
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: playoff run when they made the finals, he scored thirty one.

828
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: He scored thirty once. So he has these fluctuations, and

829
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: he's banged up, and he's older. And so the sneaky

830
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: thing for the Golden State that I think is relevant

831
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: for them is what version are you getting of Draymond

832
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: next year? I think that's a fair question to ask,

833
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: all right, and we'll do more of a warrior's autopsy

834
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 1: when their season finally ends. I do want to do

835
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Speaker 1: the Draymond thing, uh briefly, so go ahead.

836
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Speaker 2: After Game two, Draymond had a bone to pick with

837
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 2: the refs in the media, saying that the agendas try

838
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: to keep making me look like an angry black man

839
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 2: is crazy. I'm sick of it. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was incredibly bothered by this quote, and

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Speaker 1: my rationale, I think is very straightforward, which is I

842
01:03:49,080 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: think a huge problem with America in general is what

843
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: Draymond is describing. So let me explain. I think that

844
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Speaker 1: black people men and women feeling like they aren't able

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Speaker 1: to be as expressive, or as emotive or as passionate

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Speaker 1: as their white counterparts is a real double standard that

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Speaker 1: exists and has a real day to day impact on

848
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Speaker 1: how black people the extra kind of onus on black

849
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: people and how they carry themselves through the world, and

850
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Speaker 1: something that white folks such as myself don't really worry about.

851
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: I think that's a real thing and a real problem,

852
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: and I have real empathy for kind of the added

853
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: extra stuff that black men and women in particular have

854
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: to kind of think about in how they act in

855
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Speaker 1: you know, majority white spaces and stuff like that. And

856
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: if people hear this and like, ah, keep your woke

857
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: bullshit to yourself, this podcast probably ain't for you if

858
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: you can't handle these five minutes here. So I think

859
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: that's a real thing. And because I think that's a

860
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: real thing, I think Draymond Green acting like that is

861
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: what's happening to him with his technical and flagrant fouls

862
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: is some of the most disingenuous bullshit from a recent

863
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: NBA player, And I think the way it undercuts valid,

864
01:05:54,440 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: legitimate claims as if the NBA is not as if

865
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of black men to begin with

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Speaker 1: in the NBA. There's not a lot of guys that

867
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Speaker 1: are passionate in the NBA. And for Draymond to act

868
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: like he gets unfairly persecuted, when to my eye, it's

869
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: the exact opposite. Draymond gets away with more explosions and

870
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: eruptions at refs than any other player I can remember.

871
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: And while guys like Rashid Wallace the refs had a

872
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: crazy short temper with essentially they were waiting to give

873
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: him a flat technical, Draymond, once he gets his first technical,

874
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: is basically allowed to do anything other than dump the

875
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: gatorade on the ref's head. And he's not gonna throw

876
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: him out. Go ahead, Demonse.

877
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I see Draymond get face to face, like

878
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 2: nose to nose with revs more than anybody. Yeah, dude,

879
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 2: he just acts like the way he hits people. You

880
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 2: would think Rudy Gobert hits people because he's not as coordinated,

881
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 2: but like he acts like he has no control over

882
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 2: his limbs and it's just so like it's so might.

883
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. After Game four against Houston, I came

884
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: on here and on the TV show and I said,

885
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: put that game on Draymond's basketball tombstone. He got a flagrant,

886
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: he got a technical, he got the game winning stop.

887
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: He was jawing, he was gesticulating, he was hitting people

888
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: in the face. Held he won them that game against Houston,

889
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: because that's who he is. That's how he's got to play,

890
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: got it. That's he got the absolute most. He for

891
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: a player that's not that great athletically compared to his peers,

892
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: shoots like he's wearing a bat with heavy textbooks in it,

893
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: and was a second round pick and is not that tall.

894
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: He reached the absolute peak of what he ever could

895
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: have been in this league. And he had to do

896
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: it this way, and I respect that. But after Game

897
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,560
Speaker 1: seven against Houston, he came out and said, I was

898
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: embarrassed about how I was acting. I needed to be better.

899
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Speaker 1: And then against Game two, it's a conspiracy against him,

900
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: and you are invoking real, true, damaging stereotypes as a shield.

901
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: I thought was embarrassing. All Right, we need to get

902
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: to the other series and we need to get to

903
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: the draft lottery. But first, guys, I'm going to these

904
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: Knicks playoff games. I just am and I went on Saturday,

905
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: I went to Game two against a T's right, and

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Speaker 1: tell you guys all my kind of you know, all

914
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Speaker 1: my tricks. But here's what I seat geeks, and here's

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Speaker 1: what I do. I'm just gonna tell you guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you guys. Sea Gek won't seek Ek

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919
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Speaker 1: I might end up ruining my own market. But here's

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Speaker 1: what I do. If there's a game I know I

921
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Speaker 1: want to go to and it is a crazy hot ticket,

922
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Speaker 1: I open up seat geek in the morning and I

923
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Speaker 1: scan the marketplace. This is what I did Saturday. I

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Speaker 1: was with de with my buddy josh Uh. He was

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, there's like four sets of tickets

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Speaker 1: that are seats I would like that. I you know,

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Speaker 1: that seem good. And I'm monitor and as we get

931
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Speaker 1: closer and closer to the event, I see if one

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Speaker 1: of these people is like ah Man getting close to tip.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if these things if someone's gonna buy them.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm hanging out outside the arena as as

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Speaker 1: my ticket fourteen minutes before tip for Game three of

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Speaker 1: this series. I was in my seat at the National Anthem.

941
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Speaker 1: I kind of gave you guys my secrets, so I

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Speaker 1: tried to come through for you guys. You guys now,

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Speaker 1: also I'll try to come through from you guys again

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can if you can see

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Speaker 1: it on here. Uh but I I'm trying to go

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Speaker 1: this is for Nick Celtics Game three or Game five?

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Speaker 1: What would this be? I'm wrong about all of this. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: Celtics Knicks. Game six is what I'm looking at. Game

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Speaker 1: at seat Geek. All right, demons, let's go to Nuggets

965
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: Thunder and then do the draft lottery and then we

966
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: got to go because it is a long show and

967
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 1: you have to have to work.

968
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Speaker 2: So May six, you came on, you gave Yokicic's flowers,

969
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 2: put him in that Lebron s category, and since then

970
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 2: he's averaged twenty one twelve and five on thirty three percent,

971
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 2: shooting in eighteen percent from three. So should we unveil

972
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 2: a new category of takes for you called the jinx?

973
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: And also what's on the line for Joker this postseason?

974
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: Well, so a few things. I didn't quite put Joker

975
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 1: in the Lebron I didn't put him in Lebron tier.

976
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: What I said is the gap between him and the

977
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 1: second best player is a Lebron sized gap. And maybe

978
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: that was a touchover stated, but I stand by most

979
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:17,560
Speaker 1: of it. What these playoffs have been a reminder that

980
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: whomever your favorite player in NBA history is, unless their

981
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: name is Lebron James or Michael Jordan, their absolute apex

982
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: prime is littered with playoff series where they weren't at

983
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: their best. Jordan ninety to ninety eight never had a

984
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: bad series, Lebron twelve to twenty twenty never had a

985
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: bad series. Those are the only guys that that applies to.

986
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Speaker 1: So it is not an indictment on Joker, and it's

987
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 1: not that he's been bad this series, but that he's

988
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: not white playing up to his standards. It is a

989
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: bummer because what's on the line for him is immortality,

990
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: because this championship is wide open and Game four was

991
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 1: there for the taking after scoring eight points in the

992
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: first quarter, they were up six late in the third.

993
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 1: And if he could despite the fact that he wasn't

994
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:29,560
Speaker 1: playing great, and if he could have just activated a

995
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: bit in the fourth quarter and they go up three

996
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 1: to one, they are in great position to potentially win

997
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 1: the championship. They're up three to one on OKC Minnesota.

998
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: You can get revenge on them, and then you're staring

999
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: at the Knicks. I believe in the finals. So he's

1000
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: not because listen, Shay has not been unbelievable. Luca is

1001
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: already out, Giannis is out. Nobody's going to dethrone him

1002
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: this postseason. Is the best player in the league. But

1003
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: he has a chance to get real immortal status, and

1004
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: that Game four was a missed opportunity, but he can

1005
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: recapture it. And remember I said for the Nuggets. Now,

1006
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 1: they almost overachieved this goal, but I said the goal

1007
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,560
Speaker 1: just keep shortening the series. You won game one, so

1008
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 1: then even if you lose Game two, it's now instead

1009
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: of a best of seven, it's the best of five.

1010
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: They won game three, so now even though they lost

1011
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: game four, instead of a best of five, it's a

1012
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 1: best of three. Go win tonight. And that way, if

1013
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 1: you lose game six, instead of a best of three,

1014
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: it's a best of one. Keep shortening the series on

1015
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, which has issues of its own. Shay's been

1016
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: good ish, but not great. Jalen and Chet have had

1017
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: real problems, and so that to me is what needs

1018
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 1: to happen. I don't know. I don't really have demonte

1019
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: a strong lean for tonight. My only lean is, whoever

1020
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 1: wins Tonight's gonna lose Game six. I think this thing

1021
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: is going seven, okay, and I am super excited to

1022
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 1: see that. All Right, we did the lottery stuff off

1023
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: the top of the show. Here's what I do want

1024
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 1: to say, lottery wise, the most Dallas is going to

1025
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: take Cooper flag. And if you want to hear about conspiracies,

1026
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: and you know, does the idea does this vindicate Nico.

1027
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: Nico's plan was not to trade Luca and then get

1028
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: the number one pick. Nico's plan was to trade Luca

1029
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: and contend for a championship this year, So it doesn't

1030
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 1: vindicate Niko. Was it it might give go ahead? Was

1031
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,560
Speaker 1: that his goal this year? He said that, Okay, he

1032
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 1: said it said our championship windows two to three years

1033
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: and it was including this year. But then Anthony Davis

1034
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: got hurt. He was saying, like, you know, Ad got

1035
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:17,959
Speaker 1: hurt and Kyrie got hurt, but go ahead.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna kill me for years to come. Like I

1037
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Speaker 2: was just taking that as you know, trust the process.

1038
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 2: It's gonna we're gonna get there, is what it seemed

1039
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Speaker 2: like to me. But if he said that, well, I

1040
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Speaker 2: think I think that.

1041
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: His initial press conference before a d came back and

1042
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 1: got hurt again and before Kyrie blew out his knee,

1043
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 1: was we think we can contend for a championship this

1044
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 1: season and then obviously that all changed. But so this

1045
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: was not his plan. But the again, they got very

1046
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: lucky in the lottery. It happens, it does.

1047
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: Stories is the most spot somebody's ever jumped the conspiracy.

1048
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the most spots somebody's ever jumped,

1049
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,560
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's the most. I think it is.

1050
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Speaker 2: It's the most ever.

1051
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 1: Hold on a second.

1052
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Speaker 2: So very coincidental.

1053
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: And what is the what did the Magic jump when

1054
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 1: they got Penny the year after they got Shack? The Now,

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Speaker 1: I gotta look this up. I mean, you guys are

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Speaker 1: telling me so I believe you. But Penny was in

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Speaker 1: the ninety three draft. So nineteen ninety two NBA standings Wiki.

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Speaker 1: Let me just check the NBA standings for nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing this on the fly. I apologize, bah blah

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01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I don't care about the coaching changes.

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Speaker 1: The Orlando Magic won twenty one games that year. See

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Speaker 1: you guys, you guys. This is why I need to

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Speaker 1: just trust myself, the Orlando Magic. Wait that's not right. Then,

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Speaker 1: hold on a second. Maybe I don't need to just

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Speaker 1: trust myself. Hold on a second. That would make sense.

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Speaker 1: I thought the Magic it was a huge shocker. When oh,

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Speaker 1: I have the year, I'm looking at the wrong year.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem. Let me look at that, the top

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Speaker 1: draft pick Shack. Okay, that's correct. The Magic that year

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Speaker 1: won forty one games. They of all the teams that

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Speaker 1: missed the playoffs. Yeah, they had the worst lottery odds.

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Speaker 1: I knew I was right, So maybe they didn't jump

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Speaker 1: as many spots because how many teams were in the league.

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Speaker 1: Then I gotta look. But the Orlando Magic, they got

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Speaker 1: shack by winning the lottery. And then the very next

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Speaker 1: year they had the worst lottery odds and they got

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Speaker 1: they won the lottery again, I knew I was right

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Speaker 1: about that. You guys, how many teams are in the league? Now,

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Speaker 1: you guys are really gonna bother me on this. In

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three, there were seven teams in the Atlantic.

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Speaker 1: There were seven teams in the Central so were at fourteen? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there were twenty eight teams in the league, So they

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Speaker 1: went the Orlando Magic. It was a twelve team lottery

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Speaker 1: because the Toronto Raptors and the what you McCall, it's

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Speaker 1: the Vancouver Grizzlies didn't exist yet. It's twenty eight teams

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Speaker 1: in the league. The Orlando Magic. That year, there are

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Speaker 1: twelve teams in the lottery and they ended up with

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Speaker 1: the Were there twenty seven teams in the league? What's

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Speaker 1: the other team? I'm forgetting? Then? What team was added

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01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 1: that didn't exist before? What do I have wrong here?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter teams they went from the So who's

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Speaker 1: the other team. Now, I'm gonna be really bothered. Who's

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Speaker 1: the team that didn't exist in ninety three other than

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Speaker 1: the Raptors and the Timberwolves. Because I'm looking at this

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Speaker 1: and it says there's twenty seven teams. Oh, New Orleans

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Speaker 1: added a team because there was twenty nine for a

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Speaker 1: long time. So that's what it was. So those twenty

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Speaker 1: seven teams. My point remains, not only have we seen

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Speaker 1: a team jump ten spots, we have seen a team

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Speaker 1: go from the worst lottery odds to winning it. It

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Speaker 1: was rigged for Orlando, big deal with Disney. They wanted

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Speaker 1: to everyone's so dumb. I remember these things. See this

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01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 1: is the problem with working with the youth of America.

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Speaker 1: They weren't around for the ninety three draft lottery. I

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Speaker 1: was it's a big deal. No you weren't. It was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, they're gonna pair up Shack with Chris Webber.

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Speaker 1: And then they're like, no, we're gonna trade Chris Webber

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Speaker 1: for Penny Hardaway. The story is, is san Antonio gonna

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Speaker 1: trade the pick to get whim to get Yannest. That's

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Speaker 1: the story, and the I don't know what the answer

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Speaker 1: that is, and I wish we had more time on it,

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Speaker 1: but it's almost noon. I just I spent bad job

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Speaker 1: by me. I spent about five minutes recounting all of

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Speaker 1: the best players on a championship team by memory instead

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Speaker 1: of just looking it up. And then I forgot about

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Speaker 1: NBA expansion. But that was really your guys fault, because

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Speaker 1: you guys tried to convince me that this was the

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Speaker 1: most shocking thing that happened in the lottery history when

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Speaker 1: it obviously wasn't. When obviously it was the Orlando Magic

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Speaker 1: going from the worst lottery odds to winning the lottery.

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Speaker 1: And again, that's the thing with things that are one

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Speaker 1: in one hundred, they they come in sometimes. And the

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Speaker 1: other thing with the NBA lottery again, if I must

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Speaker 1: remind you, guys, is Daniel's now texting the Mavericks jumped

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Speaker 1: ten spots, highest highest rise in draft lottery history. That's

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Speaker 1: from Sports Center, Guys. I'm just here to tell you

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Speaker 1: just because someone who probably went to this, you know,

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Speaker 1: same high school class as Daniel tweeted something for ESPN's

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Speaker 1: Twitter account doesn't mean it we gotta fact check this stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm blaming I'm blaming the youth of America.

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Speaker 2: On this.

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Speaker 1: I'm blaming now. Technically I guess did they so did

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Speaker 1: the MAVs have the eleventh best or eleventh worst lottery odds?

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Speaker 1: And then they jumped from eleven to one, so it's

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Speaker 1: tied for the highest rise. Whatever. I gotta go to

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Speaker 1: work like great subscribe review deman'say, sorry about your team.

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Speaker 1: Sorry listeners, we'll get your questions tomorrow. It's almost noon,

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Speaker 1: only one hour. First things first today Matt Ford texting.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying it was rigged. My work here today

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Speaker 1: is a disaster. Love you guys, Thanks Blue Dog, Thanks Volume,

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Speaker 1: Thanks DraftKings, thanks Seek Geeks. See you guys. What's right