1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: I think my son is going to come out to me. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: How do I make sure it's perfect? And by the way, 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: you can join us live every weekday at three pm 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Pacific Standard time. Just uprofile. So throwa hi gay, I'm 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: dad says my son is gay. I knew when he 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: was five, the way he. 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: Walks and dogs. I knew from when he was five. 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: My wife claims she knew when he was four. 9 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: Whoa Is this a competition? 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: We're fairly competitive with each other. Oh no way, So 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: I think she's trying to beat me. My family is 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: leaning towards anti LGBT. They don't hate them, but they 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: like to comment on it. My wife's family doesn't really care. 14 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: They're pretty accepting of anyone as long as you respect others. 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: My son has tried his best to hide the whole 16 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: gay thing. It's worked pretty well so far. He's had 17 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: a few girlfriends and took his girlfriend at time at 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: the time to promt at five. 19 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: Oh oh oh oh, oh, sorry, I thought he was 20 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: still five. 21 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: No, no, he's no longer five. We thought he might 22 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: be by but he never got the same look on 23 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: his face when he looked at a cute guy versus 24 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: a cute girl. Him and his friend Dakota have been 25 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: hanging out a lot recently. I think they're dating, but 26 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: it's hard to tell. In the weeks leading up to June, 27 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: my son has been acting stranger, and so far this 28 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: month he's still acting odd. I'm thinking with it being 29 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: Pride month, he wants to come out I assume he's 30 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: afraid to tell me because he thinks I have the 31 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: same views as my family. I don't want to steal 32 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: his moment and tell him I know, but I can 33 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: tell something is wrong. I asked him if he wanted 34 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: to go out for lunch later this week, and he 35 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: turned me down. Do I just wait for him to 36 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: tell me? Or am I supposed to tell him I know? 37 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: Did I make a joke about the fact that it's 38 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: been obvious to me for the past ten plus years, 39 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: or is this a serious thing? I only want what's 40 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: best for him, and if he is dating Dakota, he's 41 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: doing pretty well for himself. And there are some comments 42 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: and an update. I think that OP needs to hopefully 43 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: this is what they've been doing all his life, but 44 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: I think OPE needs to make it very clear that 45 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: they're supportive of like queer people, I think that they 46 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: have to just be like, oh my god, hey son, 47 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: let's watch this new show Hotstopper. I love this show. 48 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: Hey there's a prede down the street. 49 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a prey. Do you want to check it out? 50 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: I have a friend at work who's going and just 51 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: like be really intentional about I don't know, just like, 52 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: start being really intentional about it. Yeah, about showing your 53 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: support for the LGBT community. Maybe don't say I knew 54 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: all this whole time. I think you could. You can 55 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: bring that up later. But I think when your kid 56 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: comes out to you, just saying like, thank you for 57 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: telling me. I appreciate you being brave. And I think 58 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: also a lot of times parents that or just like 59 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: in general, people who are maybe say that they are 60 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: outwardly accepting will sometimes make comments and stuff. I'll make 61 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: jokes where like queer people are the butt of the 62 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: joke and you don't even notice yourself doing it. And 63 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: I think just being really aware and making sure that 64 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: you're not doing that and that you are being just 65 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: as supportive as you can comments though, engineering Dry says, 66 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: given that it's pride month, take the opportunity to show 67 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: your son your acceptance and allyship by commenting positively on 68 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: how great it is when people find love no matter 69 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: their genders. Love is love. Mention how you don't understand 70 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: how any parent could disown their kid for being gay, 71 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: since there's nothing wrong with loving someone else. Porpus seventy 72 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: four says, and maybe mention a gay coworker and how 73 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: cute he and his husband look on their wedding pictures. 74 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell him outright that, you know, because that's 75 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: kind of taking aways coming out and stealing his thunder. 76 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: Just make it as easy as possible by showing him 77 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: that you were one hundred percent supportive. Also, I would 78 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: severely shut down your family. Whenever someone uses homosexuality is 79 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: a slur. Every time you allow that to happen, it 80 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: cuts a piece out of your son. Do you know 81 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: Suzanne Brockman, he writes romance novels about navy seals very hot, 82 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: and at some point started adding gay characters and gay 83 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: romantic subplots to her books. You said she knew her 84 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: son was gay from the age of two, and she 85 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: sat down all her friends and told them that she 86 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: never again wanted to hear any Goesler anywhere. Close to 87 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: her family, and any friend who couldn't stick to that 88 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: was welcome to leave forever. She didn't want her son 89 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: to ever feel bad about himself, and when he came 90 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: out to where as a teenager, she just said, I 91 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: know that I love you. I'll always love you, gave 92 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: him a hug and a kiss, and then asked where 93 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: did you put your dirty socks? Just let him feel 94 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: completely accepted and like it was the most normal thing 95 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: in the world. That is what you should aim for. 96 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: But there is an update. Let's get into it. The 97 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: evening I posted, I spent a few hours reading and 98 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: rereading the comments. I was trying to work up the 99 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: courage to have the conversation with my son, not because 100 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: I was afraid of the answer, but scared I was 101 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: going to say something wrong and damage our relationship. A 102 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: lot of you gave me the courage to start a conversation. 103 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: I decided it needed to happen that night, or else 104 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: I'd lose my nerve. As soon as I knocked on 105 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: his door, my mind went blank. I asked him if 106 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: anything was wrong and if you wanted to talk it all. 107 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: I said, I had noticed him acting differently over the 108 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: past few weeks and wanted to make sure everything was 109 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: all right. He said he was feeling a bit sick 110 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: recently and that was probably what I noticed. I didn't 111 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: want to push too hard, but a lot of people 112 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: said I needed to make sure he knows how I feel. 113 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: I told him that if anything was wrong, I would 114 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: hope he would talk to his mom and I. We 115 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: love him and just wants and just want what's best 116 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: for him. The Sunday after I posted with his Father's Day, 117 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: we did a family dinner, just the wife and kids. 118 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: We did cake and presents, and after opening the gifts, 119 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: I told the kids I love them. They are the 120 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: best gifts a dad could ask for, and I'm so 121 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: proud to be their dad. I told them I don't 122 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: say it enough, but I want to make sure they 123 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: know this is really sweet. After dinner, my son came 124 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: downstairs and asked if we could talk. He looked visibly 125 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: nervous and his voice was shaking. He stumbled over his 126 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: words before saying that he's gay. Ever since our daughter, 127 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: his older sister, was born. My wife would say that 128 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: she loved the kids so much she just wanted to 129 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: squish them. My son started saying it back before hugging 130 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: us as tightly as he could. It became a bit 131 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: of a tradition that the tighter you hugged, the more 132 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: you loved. When he told us he's gay, my wife 133 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: and I nearly killed him without tightly. We squeezed him. 134 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: We told him we loved him and were proud to 135 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: be his parents. That's so sweet. We ended up talking 136 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: for about two hours about everything that's going on in 137 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: his life. Him and Dakota have been seeing each other 138 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: for a few months. In the middle of May, Dakota 139 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: said that he loved him. My son wasn't ready to 140 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: say it back, and Dakota didn't pressure him. He wanted 141 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: us to know about Dakota before admitting that he's love 142 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: as well. He told us that Dakota was kicked out 143 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: at seventeen after he came out. When Dakota came out, 144 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: he thought that they would be supportive, but they weren't. 145 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: They kicked him out on a graduation day and he's 146 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: been on his own since. He offered my son the 147 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: spare room just in case the worst happened and we 148 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: did kick him out. We invited Dakota over for dinner 149 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: to get to know him a bit better. The great 150 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: guy and isn't afraid to help out. My son is 151 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: really lucky to be dating him. My son is much 152 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: happier version of his normal self, and my daughter's a 153 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: bit upset that our brother found a boyfriend before she did. 154 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: Obviously she isn't serious. He really likes Dakota as well. 155 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: Thank you again for all the help and advice. I'm 156 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: glad I was given the push to check in with him. 157 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: Hopefully other parents can learn from my mistakes and exp 158 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: I think this is definitely an excellent way of showing 159 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: your support for your and obviously Op, he did show 160 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: support in a, you know, a very real way that 161 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: made his son feel comfortable enough to come out to him. 162 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: But I think this is a lesson for I mean 163 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: Op even said it. I think that this is a 164 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: lesson in that even if you, you know, are supportive 165 00:07:55,200 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: of the queer community, you have to be very open 166 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: about that, especially when you're parenting people are parenting kids, 167 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: and just making sure that you are being loud about 168 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: that support from day one so that your kids know 169 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: that they will always be supported. But this is yeah, 170 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: this is the end of that story. And again this 171 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: is to answer the question of how do you show 172 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: support for your queer friends and family, and I think 173 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: just making sure that you are not making jokes about 174 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: the queer community, that you are expressing your support and 175 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: allyship from day one, and that you were calling out 176 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: the people around you, because I think also a lot 177 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: of people are somewhat lenient when they hear people making 178 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: jokes about queer people and they're like, oh, I don't 179 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: want to make this awkward or something. But I think 180 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: that that is also an important part of showing that 181 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: you are an ally. 182 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: This is an episode from Deep within the Archives time 183 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: for Okop Relash. 184 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 4: I evicted my brother after my parents justsonned him for 185 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 4: being gay, but what he did to me. 186 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 5: Was way worse. 187 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: I feel like the eviction is like the top the 188 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 3: top of the line in terms of terrible things that 189 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 3: could happen to you. Yeah, so maybe it's like the 190 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: brother evicted or who we talk so op, the sister 191 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: evicted the brother, okay, but the brother did something way 192 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: worse apparently, Okay, so I think the brother probably evicted 193 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: her in retaliation and then fed her to the alligators. 194 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: Bro I victed her into an alligator's mouth. 195 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 4: Hole honestly, like you would really have to do something 196 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 4: like really really the way worse has to. 197 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 5: Be way worse, like way worse. 198 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 4: But I guess, I guess we're about to find Out's 199 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 4: see for reference, my brother Connor is nineteen. I'm twenty six, 200 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 4: am I now ex fiance. Hunter is twenty eight ex 201 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: fiance ex fiance. Oh already, drama started in the first sentence. 202 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 5: Hot Ah. 203 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 4: Also for a reference, my brother was kicked out when 204 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 4: he was sixteen because our parents snooped through his phone 205 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 4: and found out that he was gay. 206 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: Hmmm, God, But if you're looking at his gay stuff, 207 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 3: does that mean you're gay? 208 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 5: Okay? 209 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 4: I mean they say, they say that a lot of 210 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 4: people who are closeted come out with more even more hate. 211 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 3: That's true. 212 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 5: It's true. 213 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: Not only are they gay because of that, but they 214 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: are also gay because they're watching his gay porn. 215 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 5: Bro. This is they say. 216 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: If we watch gay porn twice, that's that's the that's 217 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: the mark. Yeah, yeah, watch gay porn once. Hey, anyone's game, 218 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: good good things, gay watch watch it twice. 219 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 5: It's over. 220 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: Hey there's a reason you're coming back, and it's probably 221 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: the dick. 222 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why. 223 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why. 224 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 4: That's why, or the other thing or the plot. Yeah, dude, 225 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 4: the plot. The plot is pott. The plot is Hotott. 226 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 4: That's the only reason I actually watch gay porn. Of course, 227 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: cinematic man connoisseur of come exactly. 228 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: We should get like lean back chairs speaking like this. Also, 229 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: I'm like fully flashing. 230 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. 231 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 4: The one thing that does is it we rock around 232 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 4: the frame a lot. Connor had a birthday last weekend, 233 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: so he invited his friends over. They were all about 234 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 4: eighteen to twenty two. So they were drinking and playing games, 235 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 4: well kind of games. The games were you drank Naked Twister. 236 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 5: That's a fun one. 237 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love playing that. I would I would love 238 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: to be John. My birthday is coming up. By the way, 239 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: that it is naked Twister. Yeah is the mean activity. 240 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 241 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 5: I love how I have our friends. 242 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 4: I said I love naked Twister, and now I am 243 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: morally obligated Rod. 244 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, because do you love naked Twister? 245 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 5: You liar? 246 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 4: Ten bro ten of Sam's Sweaty Friends. I'm like, I'm 247 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: here for it, except I'm not. 248 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 5: He's joking. I'm just just a joke, babe, just a joke. 249 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: Babe, I've only watched My fiance Hunter and I were 250 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: about to head out to let them have the place 251 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 3: of themselves when Connor asked if we wanted to join in, 252 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: Join it, right, really, join in on the funt join 253 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: in on what kind of drinking games? Oh okay, yeah, yeah. 254 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: The intonation would have me believe it was Naked Twister. 255 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 4: Exactly, but it was. It was harmless, harmless alcoholic games. 256 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, like naked Twister. Never heard any when when has 257 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: anyone been hurt during Naked Twister? 258 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 4: That is, these are the questions that need to be asked. 259 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 4: I agree and answered, which is why I'm asking them. 260 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: That's right, trying to get I'm a nineteen twenties reporter 261 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 4: in a city that knows how to tell its secrets. 262 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 5: That's right, extra extra extra, make it twister. It is 263 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 5: perfectly safe. Read all about it? Oh my god. 264 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 4: Now I initially refused to join. I'm a bit too 265 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 4: old to be playing drinking games, but he insisted. 266 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: What's too old to sorry? You know, the first first 267 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 3: story jitter is I got to say what's on my mind? 268 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 3: What's too old to play? Drinking game? 269 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 4: Apparently twenty six and twenty eight that's too old, that's ridiculous. 270 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 5: I mean they're geriatric want to die. 271 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 3: I say, you can play drinking like the men of 272 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: old played drinking and the women of old played drinking 273 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: games well into their death. 274 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 4: But Sam being a twenty eight year old, I mean 275 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 4: in a nursery home trying to play drinking games like 276 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 4: there's wheelchairs a tiksac. 277 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 5: Have you heard of Reddit? Actually my cousin. 278 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 4: My cousin texted me and her mom was visiting her 279 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 4: in New York and she was like, my mom was 280 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 4: trying to explain your podcast and then she was like, 281 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 4: oh wait, what's Reddit again? She was like trying to 282 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 4: explain the podcast, but then she did an explanation for Reddit. 283 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 4: So she turned to my cousin and she was like, 284 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 4: what's Reddit? 285 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 5: How do you describe what Reddit is? The Internet's front page? 286 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 3: Dude, you're walking billboard. I read that the Internet. 287 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 4: Actually I didn't interview him, but I organized an interview 288 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 4: with the co founder of Reddit. I could have been like, 289 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 4: I could have been like, hey, in four years, we're 290 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 4: going to be one of the biggest Reddit podcasts planet, 291 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: or just you wait, yeah, that'll be our mind show 292 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 4: you we we go back in time and like confront 293 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 4: the founder of Yeah, well, first we have to convince 294 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 4: my past self to make make us the. 295 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: We should have started this earlier, honestly. 296 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 5: We we really should have. 297 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 4: Honestly, we were doing sleeping whatever else we were doing SEP, 298 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 4: not reading podcasts. But Connor insisted and Hunter and I 299 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 4: thought it would be fun to act like college students again, 300 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 4: so we joined in. We all got pretty wasted, and 301 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 4: Connor had the idea of playing never have I. 302 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: Ever big yikes, playing never have I ever? With family? Uh, 303 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: genius is a recipe for divulging more than you should. 304 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 5: It's it's it's it's this recipe for success. 305 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I accidentally, have you ever heard the game of fishball? 306 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 5: No, I've never heard of fishball. 307 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 3: It's like charades, right for some reason, so like like 308 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: one of the so you play, it's like charades and 309 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: then you can like say anything but the word uh 310 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: huh right and our like we were playing with my 311 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: family and Arianna was there and one of the words 312 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: written like there's pieces of paper. One of the words 313 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: on the paper was anal and Arian's clue for me 314 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: to guess the word was what we did two weeks ago, 315 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 3: and I guessed it without shame, dude. 316 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: That that is the strongest power move I've literally ever 317 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 4: heard in my entire power bottom. Wow, dude, the power 318 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 4: bottom for real. 319 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 5: Dude. 320 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 4: Guess guess guess who's asshole here? Ladies and John, Yeah, 321 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 4: I know, dude, No, not like her. 322 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: She's amazing pretentive, not the not the not the crowd, 323 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: not the crowd, not the. 324 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 5: Crowd, you know, right right, joke, wrong crowd, you know 325 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 5: what I mean? 326 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, amazing comedians over here, actual event, anal explorers. 327 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 5: That can be one of our merch items. Anal explorer, anal. 328 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: Explorers to find the asshole. There we go, and we'll 329 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 4: create a cartoon driving into assholes. You think we're in 330 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 4: this like plunging asteroid asteroid, like cave astroid. Wow, that's good, Well, 331 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: that's good. Okay, we're launching shit, all right, Well save 332 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: that mentally, every ladies and gentlemen on the podcast. If 333 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 4: this doesn't get cut out, if this doesn't get cut out, 334 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: but maybe this little bit will make it in, because yeah, 335 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 4: after a few rounds in of this game, the statement 336 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 4: never have I ever cheated before came up now is 337 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: a good time to mention that Hunter is staunchly against 338 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: any kind of cheating. His ex fiance cheated on him 339 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 4: and it emotionally wrecked him. 340 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I think most people should be against cheating. 341 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 5: You know that. 342 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: You know what, Sam, We're gonna we're gonna put our 343 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 4: flag in the sand. Yes, okay, we are against cheating. 344 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: I don't care who cancels me. 345 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: I care a little bit. 346 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 5: Actually literally everyone. 347 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: I don't want to cancel me. 348 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 4: Obama, it's over, really canceled me because I am against cheating. 349 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 5: I'm bro Bill Clinton. 350 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: He's like yeah, He's like he's like freaking uh like, uh, 351 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 4: what's what's I. 352 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: Don't flag is on the other side of the world. Uh, 353 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 3: firmly in the cheating in the cheating arena, firm. Let's 354 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 3: just say, man who's planted a few of his flag 355 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 3: maybe a couple of islands too. 356 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 4: And unfortunately, as a lot of dumb, immature seventeen year 357 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 4: olds do, I cheated on my boyfriend of five months. 358 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 4: Had to do the worst, had to do it. You know, 359 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 4: you are the worst. It was a stupid mistake. He 360 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: found out and understandably ended things. But this was almost 361 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 4: a decade ago. I've obviously learned my lesson and I 362 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 4: look back on that time with shame. And I've obviously 363 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 4: never cheated since once a cheater always had cheating. But 364 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 4: my brother knows about this, So when I didn't drink, 365 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 4: he went, hey, Sis, what the hell you know you 366 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 4: cheated on X's name? 367 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 5: You would have to drink to that? 368 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: Oh bro, brothers spilling the bee. 369 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 4: Literally like oh bad, and like you're living floor, dude, 370 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 4: this is sticky, this is bad. 371 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: Sliding around in those beans, dude, creamy, creamy beans. 372 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 4: God, that's a barrel of nut juice just all over 373 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 4: the floor, barl gravy. I am I would be impregnated 374 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 4: with Shane. 375 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: Oh dude, Yeah, I'm I'm. I'm dragging my asshole like 376 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: a dog through that that bean juice, hoping to slurp something. 377 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 4: Up that, ladies and gentlemen. Is where we stop the 378 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 4: banter and go back to the story. This is for 379 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 4: you podcast listeners. We love our podcast dude, honestly, everything. 380 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 4: Don't cut this editors, because we we love you guys. 381 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 4: We are infiltrating, infiltrating your ear holes on probably a daily, 382 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 4: bab daily. 383 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 3: I couldn't be more thrilled. I am sexually thrilled by 384 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: that thought. 385 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 5: Dude, very much. 386 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 4: But you know who's not thrilled, who Op's fiance, right. 387 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 3: So I just to recap really quick. So basically all 388 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: of them are playing never have ever, including piece fiance, OPI, 389 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: and O piece brother. They probably never have I had ever, 390 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: Never have I ever cheated? She doesn't drink brothers like 391 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: you cheated. And now fiance heard and he's super against cheating. 392 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: So so we're about he's about to be in some 393 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 3: hot water. 394 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, ue is not. It's not going to be pretty. 395 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 5: I can promise you that. Yeah. 396 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: Okay. 397 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 4: My boyfriend paused and looked at me. Oh no, I 398 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 4: looked at him. Oh God, and my boyfriend walked out 399 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 4: of the room. 400 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 5: Man is very against cheating. He's out of here. 401 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of like the three second rule? 402 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 3: If he has sex for less than three seconds, yep, 403 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: doesn't count as cheating, dude. Also, Mormons, Mormons soaking soaking. 404 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 3: If you soak, is it a stroke? It isn't. As 405 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: long as you're not stroking, then it is soaking? Wow, 406 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: which is not sex? That is I mean, we've we've 407 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 3: we've solved it. We went from we were from the 408 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 3: most anti cheaters possible to writing the playbook on how 409 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: to cheat because it's not cheating. Hey, right, it's so gay. 410 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 3: It's more like a like a peep hug. 411 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 5: Right. 412 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, dude, sometimes sometimes your wiener just needs 413 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 4: a little yeah shaft. 414 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: You know. 415 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 3: You know, men need four hugs a day. 416 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 5: Wow. 417 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 4: That's a lot of hugs, dude, three of which need 418 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 4: to be wow. 419 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: Wow. 420 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: When he stormed out of the room, I followed him 421 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 4: and I tried to tell him it was this stupid 422 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: teenage mistake, but he wasn't having any of it. He 423 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 4: ended our relationship on the spot. 424 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 5: Wow. 425 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 4: Done, it's over. Engaged, it's over. They're engaged for a game. 426 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 4: Ed it on the spot. 427 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 5: It's over. Dude. That's like that's not really. 428 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: God damn. I mean like you know, like like hey, 429 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 3: that that one is like a pretty pretty uh intense because. 430 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 4: The context of it would be one thing if it 431 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 4: was revealed in the game, like oh, you're cheating right 432 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 4: now on them? Yeah, that that is like way more 433 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 4: like okay, yeah, like I could totally see that, But 434 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 4: this is like. 435 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 3: Seventeen ten years ago on a I mean, people learned 436 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: people yeah. 437 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 5: Like seventeen. 438 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 4: I think I think that's not worth ending it on 439 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 4: the spot. 440 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: But maybe maybe the issue is not the fact that 441 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 3: she cheated at seventeen, but more that when the conversation 442 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: of hey, have you ever cheated on a partner before? 443 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 3: She never brought that up. 444 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 4: Yes, we we don't know a thousand percent if, but 445 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 4: it had. The cheating conversation must have happened because. 446 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 5: She well, cheat it on. 447 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 3: Well yeah, and Op says, so that's the time she 448 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: knows how much like he hates cheaters. 449 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, there has to have. 450 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 3: Been so, yeah, has to have Yeah, there should have 451 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 3: been an opportunity. Big yikes, dude, big. 452 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 5: Well, let's let's see. Let's see how she's doing. I'm numb. 453 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 5: I'm heartbroken. 454 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 4: He was my everything and more and I still don't 455 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 4: know how I'm going to move on. My brother Connor 456 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 4: tried to apologize, but I feel nothing but sadness and emptiness. 457 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 4: This morning I served him in eviction. Notice the brother, 458 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: the brother. 459 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 5: He's out. 460 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's gone. You ended this whole freaking thing. 461 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 4: I mean it's pretty it's pretty rough. He begged me 462 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 4: to stay and said he didn't mean to ruin my relationship, 463 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 4: and he just didn't think when he said those words. 464 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not gonna think about him. 465 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 5: Not a viction. Yeah, I think about kicking yo. 466 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, after I raised him and cared for him like 467 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: he was my own. 468 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 5: I feel so hurt. Am I being unreasonable? Sam? 469 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 4: You know we talk about a lot of really hard 470 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 4: situations on this podcast. 471 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 5: Oh baby, the hardest, And. 472 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 4: You know, Sam, that's not the only thing that we 473 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 4: need heart in this world. 474 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: Fellas if you're trying to play a little game of 475 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: hide the zucchini, you want that zucchini to be nice, 476 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: berm and strong. 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Come on is it 496 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 3: blue choo dot com for more details and important safety information. 497 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 3: And I just want to thank Bluetoo one more time 498 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: for sponsoring this podcast and making the hard things hard 499 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: and our life easy. 500 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 5: Oh yes, back to the episode. 501 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 4: Now, I can understand that Opie's like brain is like 502 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 4: super clouded, like this probably happened right after like like 503 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 4: Ope served the eviction notice, like right after it happened. 504 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 4: Brain is clouded. It's absolutely completely ft. But I truly 505 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 4: do not think that Opie's brother observes at no brothers. 506 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: It's not his thought that she kept this from her fiance. 507 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 5: That's a great point. 508 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 4: I didn't even think about that because I mean, like, look, 509 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, he obviously shouldn't have 510 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 4: blurted that out, but it was it was an accident, 511 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, I I will give 512 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 4: him the past there. I understand why, op, he's like 513 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 4: super upset, But I think it's way too much to 514 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 4: kick him out, especially when he's like, you know, already 515 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 4: been through. 516 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it is a lot to kick 517 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: him out, just especially it feels like it's oh Pie's 518 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 3: fault honestly in terms of it right with her fiance, 519 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 3: and like, I think that just goes generally for keeping secrets. 520 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 3: Ideally you're not living a double life. 521 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 522 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 3: Ever, and even in small ways like my for better 523 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 3: for worse, my kind of philosophy has been to tell 524 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 3: all people in all areas of my life essentially the 525 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 3: whole picture, so like things don't sneak up on me, Yeah, 526 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 3: because then it's like, okay, if I'm just transparent with everyone, 527 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 3: everyone knows who like Sam is and there's nothing my goodness, Jez, 528 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 3: But like, did I did you tell them to tell 529 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: you that story? With patients? The two ex girlfriends ago? 530 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 3: She never like we were living together, and she never 531 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: told her parents. Interesting, yeah her and I learned later 532 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 3: that her parents were like very very religious and would 533 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: have been like maybe not disown level but if they 534 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 3: found out and like that's like that kind of double 535 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: life is something that it's difficult on the partner because 536 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 3: when it comes like then it's like, oh, if I 537 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: slip up right like the like then I'm blamed, which 538 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 3: I don't think. 539 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: She is, right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's this is 540 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: a case of like oh, if OP had community probably 541 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 4: if OPI had communicated this in the right way, in 542 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 4: the right setting, and all this stuff. Like I mean again, 543 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 4: I think everyone kind of like overreacted in all the scenarios. 544 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: Like again, Hunter leaving it was ten years ago when 545 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 4: she was seventeen. 546 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think over yes, yes, overreaction on all accounts, 547 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: on all I. 548 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 4: Agree problem because like because then like it's on Hunter too, 549 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 4: because Hunters should not have left just because of that 550 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 4: in my opinion, like that that. 551 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 3: Is I should have like like just listened from more context. 552 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Like it's like. 553 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 4: Like do you really like are you really ready the 554 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 4: end of relationship that quick? 555 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 5: Over something like that? 556 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 3: And you know what this comes up in us Actually 557 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: there was the story we did with the girl that 558 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: saw this guy at the gas station, yes and left 559 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 3: right yeah, and then like the op is just like 560 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 3: and just something snapped and she left, And I don't like, 561 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 3: I don't know how she could, Like maybe it's love 562 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: it first sight. I don't know how she left. All 563 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: the Thomas were like, bro, like she was just looking 564 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: for an out, yeah, you know, and like maybe oh 565 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 3: Pi's fiance same way, he was just looking for an out. 566 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: She kind of gave it to him. This was his 567 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: time to just like get out of a relationship. Maybe 568 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: he wasn't super passionate about right, Bro. People are crazy 569 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 3: also really quick back to the patient story. Yes, they 570 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: were so anti us being in the same living quarters 571 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 3: together that they freaked out when they saw a picture 572 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: of us camping. 573 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 5: Yes, I know the people you're talking about. 574 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, the dad was like her dad was like, I'm 575 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 3: gonna like, I'm like, I can't believe he's flaunting that 576 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 3: were he's having intercourse with my daughter, like by showing 577 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: a picture of like like. 578 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 5: Them in a tent. 579 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: It wasn't even a tent. It was outside the tent. 580 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: It was just it was just like we're going camping, and. 581 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 5: Everyone knows what goes down in the tent. Hey, I'm 582 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 5: not saying things didn't go down to the tent. But 583 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 5: that was crazy. 584 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 3: The main thing was that we're camping, not that I'm 585 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 3: doing anything with your daughter. 586 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 4: So though I was, wow, what what an elaborate rouse 587 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 4: you You decide to invent this camping? 588 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 5: Just display what an evil mastermind? 589 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: But no, it was so I can only imagine if 590 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: they got mad about one day of camping. Uh, how 591 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 3: about like a like a year of living in the 592 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 3: same apartment. I always be honest, always be and that's 593 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 3: why I have honest to you guys. Wow, anyone still 594 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: listening to this god forsaken tale, I appreciate you. And 595 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 3: if you see me in the street, keep the ship 596 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: to yourself. Don't yelling, don't yelling, say I say hi, Hi. 597 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 3: Don't be a connor. Don't be a connor. Don't be 598 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 3: a connor. Because this is the little family can know 599 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 3: a little you know, family, We keep it, we keep 600 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 3: it in, keep it in the family. Arianna recently found 601 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 3: out that we told personal stories on this podcast. Yeah, 602 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: and she's like, I thought you guys just read like 603 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: Reddit stories and it no like other people's lives. Yeah, 604 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 3: I didn't know you. 605 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 2: Uh. 606 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 3: And now she wants to listen to all the episodes 607 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 3: to see you like, here we go, what has been said? 608 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 3: This is going to be interesting, and this is how 609 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: we get one more listener. That's right, Yes, it's all 610 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: a secret plot. Yeah, we've burned years year zero one 611 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: more sense for listen. My girlfriend broke up with me, 612 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 3: had a baby with another man. Now she's dying and 613 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 3: wants me to adopt the kid. 614 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 5: Okay, op, but dumb, dumb but dumb, dumb but dumb, 615 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 5: dumb but dumb, dumb dumb store store. 616 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 3: And the crowd goes wild. That was U was John's 617 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: nineteen sixties talk show. 618 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 4: Wow, thank you so much, welcome back. My girlfriend broke 619 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 4: up with me, had a baby with another man. Now 620 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 4: she's dying and wants me to adopt the kid. 621 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 3: That is a roller coaster, but I want to strap 622 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 3: in and get ready to go on the loop de loops. 623 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 5: Not a situation I would want to be in. 624 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 3: No, but I want to hear about it and live 625 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: vicariously through others pain. 626 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 4: I thirty one M met my ex girlfriend twenty nine 627 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 4: female on a dating app around seven years ago. She 628 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 4: had a son just six months. All the time she 629 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 4: was with multiple guys and ended up pregnant. Still not 630 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 4: knowing who the biological father is. 631 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: Ooh big oo ouch. 632 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 4: But it wasn't that much of an issue to me 633 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 4: because she seemed like a great person and we had 634 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 4: a lot in common. After a few weeks of chatting 635 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 4: and talking online, we went on a first date and 636 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 4: had a great time. 637 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 5: After that, we just started. 638 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 4: Hanging out whenever she could, and shortly after she introduced 639 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 4: me to her son. A few months into our relationship, 640 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 4: we moved in together to save money. 641 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 3: Dude, you should it move with someone to save money 642 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: if it's a romantic partner, because that's when things can 643 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 3: go buy it. 644 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 5: And a few months like that's not a lot of time. 645 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 4: I started helping take care of her child whenever I could, 646 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 4: and we really grew fond of each other, and he 647 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 4: even started calling me Papa, and we just went along 648 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 4: with it since my. 649 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 5: Girlfriend didn't mind. 650 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 4: Now, almost five years into our relationship, she told me 651 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 4: that she wants to break up with me because I 652 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 4: became boring and not an active person like I used 653 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 4: to be. 654 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 3: That hurts man, not even like yeah, you know, I 655 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 3: think our lives are just going in different directions, Like 656 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 3: you're boring and you're fat and ugly, and I at too. 657 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 4: We used to go on hikes and travel around the 658 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: country on weekends, so I obviously don't do that much anymore. 659 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 4: And she also said I work too much, you know, 660 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 4: the cherry on the cake, damn, trying to provide for 661 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 4: the family. It was a rough time after that, and 662 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 4: I had a hard time accepting it, although not as 663 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 4: hard as explaining to a five year old that held 664 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 4: no longer be seeing as popble oh bro. 665 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 5: But I managed to get over it in a few months. 666 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 5: I found a better job that allowed. 667 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 4: Me to work remotely, and I had a lot of 668 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 4: free time, so I actually ended up exploring a few 669 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 4: other countries. 670 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 3: Sick, sometimes you gotta drop the baggage to become a 671 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 3: free man. 672 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 5: Don't check it in, just put it on. Carry on now. 673 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 4: A few days ago, I got a call from my ex, 674 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 4: so you know, time is passed, okay. She said that 675 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 4: she is sick and in the hospital. She removed one 676 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 4: of the tumors in her breast, but recently found another 677 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 4: tumor in her other breast and she will need that 678 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 4: removed as well. So like this is this is serious, 679 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 4: serious stuff right here. Yeah, she is scared that she 680 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 4: might die if it doesn't work out. Oh no, asked 681 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 4: me if i'd be willing to become her son's legal 682 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 4: guardian and adopt him since she has no one else 683 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 4: to ask. 684 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 3: Frick dude, that is such a tough ask. 685 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 4: Now, as mentioned, I live a different lifestyle. Now, you're 686 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 4: boring because of her. 687 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, he ain't got the time. 688 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 4: I travel a lot. I invest in myself, So I 689 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 4: told her that I can't do that. She told me 690 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 4: that her son misses me and would love to see me, 691 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 4: but I said no again, And after I said no again, 692 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 4: she started crying, calling me names before just ending the call. Now, 693 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 4: I talked to my sister and my parents about this, 694 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 4: and they told me that it's an effed up thing 695 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 4: to refuse after all those years that we spent together. 696 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 5: I feel like trash now. 697 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 4: So the question is am I the a hole for 698 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 4: not wanting to adopt my dying ex girlfriend's child. 699 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 3: Oh dude, frick like, dude, this is so tough. I 700 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 3: don't think he's an a hole for saying no. I like, 701 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: it's like it's not his problem necessarily. It's definitely not 702 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,719 Speaker 3: the nicest thing he could do. Like the nicest thing 703 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 3: he could do would be to adopt that girlfriends he's 704 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 3: dying ex girlfriend's kid, but like it's not his responsibility, right, 705 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 3: Like he's not related by blood. He dated this girl 706 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 3: for a couple of years and you know the girl 707 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 3: had a kid, but that doesn't mean that it's suddenly 708 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 3: his kid. And also the girl broke up. 709 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 5: With him exactly. 710 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 4: Actually, there there was an interesting comment that I pulled 711 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 4: in that in that regard. So this is from Unpopular Kryptonite. 712 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 4: Great handle there, Oh, I actually got some kryptonite right here. 713 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 3: Uh oh bute, Yeah that is right there, Crystal, I've 714 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 3: been crystaled. I'm a Crystal boy. 715 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 5: Now do Crystal saying sports sports? Crystal sport boys. So on? 716 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 4: Popular Kryptonite says not the ahole, don't do it. The 717 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 4: kid doesn't remember you, it's been two years. She can 718 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 4: ask one of the more interesting excess to adopt her. 719 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 5: Since you were so boring baby. 720 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know, I totally forgot how mean she 721 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 3: was when she broke up with her. 722 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 5: Exactly. Yeah. That's the thing is like she's like, you're 723 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 5: so boring, Like I ask one of your more savage 724 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 5: super savage. 725 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean in the end, although really quick 726 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: I don't like. 727 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 3: If you want an empathetic answer, the reddit comments are the. 728 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 5: Worst place, you know, if you want to go there 729 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 5: for the empathy. 730 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 3: Like you're you're not like, if you want to become 731 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 3: a better person, just just don't take the advice of 732 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 3: reddit comments. Reddit comments are like that that girl is 733 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 3: you know, crazy, or she's a complete b Sam, But 734 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 3: you know we were out here trying to be mother Teresa. 735 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 3: We're so you know, we're trying to be better humans. 736 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 3: I have a little sugar to your side, you know. 737 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: What I mean? 738 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 3: Like, I had an ex girlfriend of like three years. 739 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 3: She has a couple of sisters or like, like what, no, 740 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 3: I have a four or five years ago. 741 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 5: Like you dated her for four or five years. 742 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 3: So I did her for two years and it ended 743 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 3: like four or five years ago. It if she suddenly said, Sam, 744 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 3: I'm dying, can you adopt my sister? I'll be like, Bro, 745 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 3: you broke up with me? Yeah, it's I don't I 746 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 3: don't think I'm like, uh no, I you know that 747 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 3: I've moved on. I'm living my life. I got other 748 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 3: things to worry about. 749 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 2: I think. 750 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 4: I think that's like basically, if you break up with 751 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 4: someone it's an opt out for their family essentially, Like 752 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 4: you're basically saying like I don't want you in my life, Like, yeah, 753 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 4: I don't want you in my family. I don't want 754 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 4: you in my life or go in my family's life. 755 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you can't just like say like hey, you know, 756 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 3: like whenever you when you need something for someone else, 757 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 3: if you're in your family, just like hey, like I 758 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 3: need your hob Like that's not how it works. 759 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,919 Speaker 5: No, No, If like Op really wanted to, that's fine. 760 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, like I think it's okay for her 761 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 3: to ask, that's a fair Yeah, but I don't think 762 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 3: it's Op's responsibility to say yes yes or to guilt 763 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 3: trip him. 764 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, but you know what, it is okay to 765 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 5: guilt trip you. You know what you should trip on 766 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 5: that subscribe. 767 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 3: Button baby and followmdon on Spotify and non TikTok and 768 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 3: support us a Patreon too with Kathy Quickly, Kathy Quickly, 769 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 3: We love you, Kathy. 770 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 5: We'll see you next time. See you next time.