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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number one

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Speaker 1: Taylor the show. We're bringing together four hunters who successfully

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Speaker 1: killed a buck this year during the rut, and we're

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Speaker 1: examining exactly how those hunts went down, what made them successful,

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Speaker 1: and what we can learn from them. All Right, well,

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Speaker 1: before we get into the meat of this episode, we

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Speaker 1: need to pause briefly to thank our partners at Sick

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Speaker 1: Of Gear who make this podcast possible. And today we've

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Speaker 1: got a Sick of story that speaks to some of

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Speaker 1: the deepest moral and ethical questions that we might face

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Speaker 1: as hunters. Now. Aaron Hitchins has worked on many of

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Speaker 1: Six Gears films as a member of the team at

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Speaker 1: rock House Motion. In this past week, he joined his

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Speaker 1: buddies down in Kansas for much anticipated white tail hunt.

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Speaker 1: Given that he's usually filming, he hasn't gotten a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of time down there to just hunt, But this

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Speaker 1: year was going to be different. He was going to

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Speaker 1: have the full week to chase a Kansas giant. But

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Speaker 1: that all changed as darkness faded on the very first

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Speaker 1: morning and he spotted an old rundown buck lying on

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Speaker 1: it had cut in its face, and basically it just

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Speaker 1: It was clearly an extremely old deer, you know, eight

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's dying of old age or dying

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't quite a bit of discomfort and so

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Speaker 1: And it was tough to me, And it was just

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Speaker 1: tough on every level, Like it was tough primarily just

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Speaker 1: because you think about hunting as it's like, oh, if

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Speaker 1: it lives for a while and then it dies. And

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Speaker 1: and I think what people would consider a relatively peaceful

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Speaker 1: not this sort of natural, peaceful thing that people imagine.

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Speaker 1: the sort of the journey as as not necessarily bringing

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Speaker 1: it was clearly an old deer, it was clearly a warrior.

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Speaker 1: You know. When I walked up to that deer and grunted,

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Speaker 1: and I figet that the you know, the best, the

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Speaker 1: most dignity I could offer was a clean, swift kill

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Speaker 1: and a tough situation and one that I'm sure we'll

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Speaker 1: stick with Aaron for a very long time. But in

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Speaker 1: the end, sometimes our responsibilities hunters goes above and beyond

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Speaker 1: our own personal goals. That said, this was a SI story,

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Speaker 1: And if you'd like to learn more about gear which

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Speaker 1: Aaron was wearing during this experience, you can visit sit

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Speaker 1: gear dot com. And now onto the show. All right,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by sit gear and today in the show, we are

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Speaker 1: bringing together four very serious deer hunters, all with one

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Speaker 1: thing in common. We have all killed. How are you

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Speaker 1: but I'm like, way below, how you just introduced me. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: But you you busted in the donalogue. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I'll be quiet. Yeah, please mind your place, Dan go.

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Speaker 1: So what I'm trying to say is our plan today

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Speaker 1: from these hunts. So as we've eluded. One of these

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Speaker 1: are my two very good buddies and serious big buck

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Speaker 1: killers in their own right, Corey Fall and Ross Housemen, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. Thanks. How's it going morning. We're good,

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Speaker 1: We're good. This is gonna be fun. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a little messy, you know, since there's four of us

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Speaker 1: maybe drinking beer by ourselves. But um, well we're gonna

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a good time talking because well, you guys,

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Speaker 1: So this is this is gonna be a good time.

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Speaker 1: And Dan, I gotta ask you to kick things off

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Speaker 1: here before we get into anything too serious. Yeah, how

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Speaker 1: I'm used to grinding it out. Like I, like I

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Speaker 1: on the sixteenth, that was the last day of my

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Speaker 1: Changing diapers, washing dishes? Yeah, yep, actually a lot of that,

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Speaker 1: an impact. I knew I had. If I appeeled to

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Speaker 1: your pride, it would get your hunting. Yep, yep. I can't.

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Speaker 1: speaking of Iowa. Ross. You're an Iowa guy. We talked

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Speaker 1: whole life? Etcetera, etcetera. Yeah, I think I probably started

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Speaker 1: kind of when I started. Um. I shot my first

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Speaker 1: I really we know you're that big a jerk. Isn't

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Speaker 1: disrubs it in. He just loves the sendin those pictures

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Speaker 1: can't we can't be in Iowa. Oh my gosh. Well

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Speaker 1: What we get any or Corey? What was the regulation

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Speaker 1: he was. He was an absolute stud. Yeah, so we text,

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Speaker 1: we text this to all like my hunting buddies here.

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Speaker 1: We're on this little group text message and Ross just responds, boring.

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Speaker 1: over on the opposite ridge. Um, and just nothing. So

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00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: day five and I was like, screw it, I'm just

427
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: gonna do something different. I went and moved at midday

428
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: to this little corner stand we have on the very

429
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: corner of the property where I can see my open field,

430
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: and I can see the neighbors open field where usually

431
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: as a lot of doughs, and my whole thought prices

432
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 1: as well. I can see a large area, and I

433
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: put a decoy on front of me, and I thought,

434
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: all right, if I can get lucky and happen to

435
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: see a nice buck, finally, maybe I can call to

436
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: him and bring him in here. Because right now it

437
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: certainly doesn't seem to be happening in the core of

438
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: our property, so maybe there's something happening on the periphery

439
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: UM and long story short set that decoy just like

440
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: I always have in the past, but no nice Buck

441
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: has ever seen UM. And a couple hours into it,

442
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: I started seeing some does coming out, which was nice

443
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: because I hadn't hardly been seeing any does at all

444
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: before him. And then I don't know, maybe an hour

445
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: or forty five minutes before dark, to see a flash

446
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: a couple of hundred yards to my I don't know

447
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: it would be southeast, and I pull up my Buyos

448
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: and I just saw a wall of times what looked

449
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: like a wall of just tall white times, and instantly

450
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: like I was a shooter, and I swear to God Dan,

451
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: I didn't even look at him again it was a

452
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: Buyos or even thinking about it. It was just like

453
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: big Buck. And then it was just like game on.

454
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: So I just remember like pulling through my pockets, draft

455
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: on my grunt tube because he's following a dough about

456
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: two yards away heading into the neighbors, about to cross

457
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: the line. So I get my grunt tube out and

458
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: I love a bit. He keeps going. I love out

459
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: snort we's he keeps going, and I just a love one,

460
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: just heavy heavy roar, just as loud as I can

461
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: make it, just anything to get this dear's attention, and

462
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: that stopped him his tracks, and he turned and looked

463
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: right at me, and you could see him his ears

464
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: perk up when he saw that decoy. And then it

465
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: was literally like I was watching a TV show. He

466
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: just turned, ears perked up, you saw him bristle, and

467
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: then he just started running right at that decoy. And

468
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: I was like, holy crap, this is actually happening. Um.

469
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: It was really sweet. I couldn't believe it, but I

470
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,479
Speaker 1: had all these things I had to do. Like I remember,

471
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: I didn't even like think about, Okay, do I want

472
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: to shoot him or not? Is this anything? It was

473
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: just like, okay, I'm gonna shooting this buck. Now. I

474
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: need to do. Step one which was slowly turned grab

475
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: my bow. Step two was slowly turned back, make sure

476
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: he hasn't seen you. Step three was make sure your

477
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: range finders handy. Step four was make sure your cameras

478
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: on position it to try to be on the decoy.

479
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: Can you get the deer in the shot right now?

480
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 1: And before I knew it, he was at forty yards

481
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: coming in behind this tree branch. He was at thirty

482
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: five yards. He was thirty yards, but he's this whole

483
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: time behind this one branch that was out in the

484
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: middle of this field kind of and um, I drew

485
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: back just before he got past that branch and I'd

486
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: be able to shoot, and then he froze, so I

487
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: was still I was stuck a full draw, and it

488
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: feel it felt like a really long time, but not

489
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: watching the video, it wasn't as long as I thought,

490
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: but it felt like I felt like I was starting

491
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: to shake. So maybe I just need to lift more

492
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 1: weights or something. Because he finally took a step out,

493
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: and as soon as he took the step out, I

494
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: touched it off and I pulled the shot a little

495
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: bit to the left. Um, but I was I don't,

496
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, you know how it wasn't

497
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: that moment. I knew I had to get that shot

498
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: off as soon as I could, because you've seen you've

499
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: practiceen video where those bucks they posture, you know, he

500
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: was doing. That thing was all puffed up and he

501
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: was kind of curved and then slowly side walking over

502
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: towards the decoy, and I knew any second he's going

503
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: to charge and hit that thing. And as soon as

504
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: he hit that thing, he realized, Okay, that's not normal

505
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: and need to run off. So it's like, I need

506
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: to get this shot as soon as he steps out

507
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: from behind those branches. So as soon as he did,

508
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: I let her go. Um, but it wasn't a perfect shot.

509
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: He bounded off like fifty yards, stopped, it was hunched up,

510
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: and then slowly walked away. So I knew that I

511
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: had gotten something into his paunch and um, after looking

512
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: at the footage, looked like it entered maybe around the liver,

513
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: exited back towards the guts because it's very slightly quartering

514
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 1: to me. And UM, I let him sit overnight, and

515
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: then the next morning I went out there and I

516
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: found him like a hundred and fifty yards away. He

517
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: didn't go very far. He betted down and that was

518
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: that was all she wrote. So, so did you hit

519
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: I know you you sent me some pictures and whatnot,

520
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: But do you feel that you ended up hitting maybe

521
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: back lower lung or do you think it was even

522
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: further back than that? Did you hit diaphragm liver? What?

523
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: I think? Yeah, I think it was it wasn't long.

524
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: Um that picture that I sent you when he was

525
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: like hunched up like that. I think it looked a

526
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: lot more forward than what the shot really did, because

527
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: when you watched the video of it, it looks you

528
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: can see it entered pretty far back. Um. I mean

529
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: it entered a good six six seven inches farther back

530
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: than probably where I wanted. Um So, so I think

531
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: clipped liver and then went out to the back, um,

532
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, towards that front part of the guts. So

533
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: not my best shot ever, but it it worked out. Okay,

534
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: that was my run. So after you shot this buck,

535
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: I know we had exchanged some text messages and had

536
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: some side conversations. But was this buck what you thought

537
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: he was after you walked up on him? So I

538
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: hate those guys who are always like, oh, no ground shrinkage.

539
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: I thought it was a lot bigger. I thought it

540
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: was a different deer or whatever. Whatever. Um So, I

541
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: won't I don't want to be like that. But I

542
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: was just excited and I didn't even think about it. Um.

543
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: You know, like when I was in Michigan and I

544
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: was seeing these deer that was passing, like I saw

545
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: a nice buck. I was pulling out my buy and

546
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: I was and examining them and like, Okay, you know,

547
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: I really want to shoot holy Field, but is this

548
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: a four or five year old buck, you know, really

549
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: trying to look at their bodies? Obviously not, Okay, I'm

550
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: not going to shoot him. Um in this instance, I

551
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: just I didn't even think about it. Um So. So no,

552
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, the instant the first thing I thought when

553
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: I saw this deer coming across that field way out there,

554
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: I just saw his side and I saw you know,

555
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: those two three tall times, and um I was like, wow,

556
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: this is this is a shooter. It just instantly looked

557
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: like a really nice big buck, and I just didn't

558
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: even I didn't even think about it after that. Um So,

559
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: he is younger than you know, what I had originally

560
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: wanted to kill in Ohio. You know, my goal was

561
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: at least a four and a half year old. I

562
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: don't think this buck wasn't four. He was three and

563
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: a half. Um So, yes, not exactly what I had

564
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: gone into this season going for. But at the same time,

565
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: he got my heart pumping. This was a really cool hunt,

566
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 1: first successful hunt I've ever had over a decoy um

567
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: and still really nice to dear. So I'm very happy

568
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: with it. Um I'd say the only the only downside

569
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: is just that, you know, in the moment, I'm like, oh,

570
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: thank goodness, you know, the hunt's done. I was able

571
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: to fill my tag. You know, I was, you know,

572
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: getting down on myself until that point, but now I

573
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, it would have been nice to

574
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: keep hunting down there, go back later in the year.

575
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: Um So, so yeah, that's that's kind of my thoughts

576
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: on all that. Yeah, dude, I'm not trying to throw

577
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: you under the bus, but it's just like I I

578
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: would have been in the same exact situation as you,

579
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 1: but but I missed, you know what I mean. So

580
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: it's not like there There are definitely times when the

581
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: energy and the blood is pumping and a little bit

582
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: of that thought process goes out the window. But that's

583
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: why we all do it. Yeah, exactly exactly. I mean

584
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: it was I don't regret it at all because that

585
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: was an awesome hunt and it may be really happy

586
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: and I've got some incredible meat, you know, in the

587
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: long run, that's the very most important thing. I've got

588
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 1: some great meat to feed myself and my wife with

589
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: and an awesome and awesome memory. So it was cool

590
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: and it was, you know, like I was saying at

591
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: the beginning, it was just like another really great reminder

592
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: for me, Like, gosh, every every I feel like every

593
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: year during the rut, I tend to, you know, fall

594
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: into that trap of like, you know, after five, six,

595
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: seven days go by or whatever, sometimes longer and things

596
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: aren't going my way, I'm like, Oh, it's not gonna

597
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: happen this year. It's not gonna happen. You start feeling down. Um,

598
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: But I just keep on trying to keep myself positive

599
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 1: and tell myself that over and over. And I've been

600
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: lucky enough these past few years that I've I've been

601
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: rewarded for sticking it out. That's not always gonna happen,

602
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: but I was fortunate that I did this year. And

603
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: like Corey Fall says, it's unpredictable. Yes, that's right, it's true.

604
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: Um So I don't know, Um that was how my hunt? Any?

605
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: Do you anything about what I did? You guys are

606
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: curious about. I mean kind of the basic gist of

607
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: why I think it was successful was that A I

608
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: kept you know, I was thinking about leaving. I was

609
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: getting kind of down and out about it, but I

610
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: didn't I stuck it out, So I think that was

611
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: one thing that led to success. I think number two

612
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: I put myself in a place where I could see

613
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: a large area UM, because I knew if I could

614
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: see one, I have a chance of calling one. And

615
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: then number three, I used that decoy UM, which for

616
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: the first time you know that I've had an opportunity.

617
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: It actually worked out really well. UM. And I guess

618
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: the only other thing I would point out is if

619
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: you have not listened to our episode with John Dudley

620
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: that was from earlier this fault, be sure to listen

621
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: to that because he walks through exactly how to set

622
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: up a decoy, and I followed his instructions exactly and

623
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: it worked out perfect. I had that decoy set up

624
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 1: so that the wind was blowing from the decoy to me,

625
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: and then I angled the decoy slightly towards me so

626
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: it looked like he was kind of looking over to

627
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: my left. And then I only used one angler on him,

628
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: so he doesn't look like he's two dominant of a buck.

629
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: And what happens is when a buck, what's supposed to

630
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: happen at least, and what did happen in this case

631
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: is that when a buck sees this dear, he's gonna

632
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: want to come down one of it because he wants

633
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: to smell it. And then he also wants to approach

634
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: that dear head on. So when it happens, it gives

635
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: you a good broadside shot when he comes around that corner.

636
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: So I think for me, those are the four things

637
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: I took away from it is like, Okay, these four

638
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: things went well, and I think that's or these are

639
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: four things I did that led to this success. Um,

640
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: but I don't know anything else that I should cover

641
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: on that front, Dan or any of you guys. No,

642
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: I think you explained it, Uh, explained it pretty good.

643
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: I think that all three of us can agree that

644
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: you need to go kill holy Field now. Yeah, yeah,

645
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: I do. He's he's haunting me. Now I just need

646
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: to figure out. Okay, here's a question. This is what

647
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm torn between right now. Um and I want to

648
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: get to you guys other stores, but um so so yes,

649
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: I usually do leave this property alone during guns season,

650
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: um as a sanctuary to try to help you know,

651
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: hopefully some of these bucks can make it to another year.

652
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: And if there's a specific buckum after I think I've

653
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: got a better chance to kill him in the late

654
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: season rather than trying now and pushing them to get

655
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: shot by neighbor um. But but I am torn. Do

656
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: I go out now or during the late season with

657
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: my muzzleloader and have a better chance of killing him,

658
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: or do I stick to my you know, bow hunting

659
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: quest and only use my bow. I I'm kind of

660
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: torn on that because on one side, I want to

661
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: kill him. On one side, I'm like, man, killing with

662
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: a bow would be like the purest way to do it.

663
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, damn, what do you think it? I'm

664
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: telling you I don't care really how you do it.

665
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: But this is this is a risk verse reward sport.

666
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: So you need to You saw this buck on your

667
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: property today at noon, he's there. Who knows how long

668
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna be there if a hot dog drags him

669
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: to a neighboring property and get shot, regardless, you need

670
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: to be out there hunting him. And you need to.

671
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: I mean you can't. You can't control where he's going

672
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: to go, even if there's even if there's low pressure

673
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: on your property. Yes, you may stick around, but at

674
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: any moment a hot dog could come through and make

675
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: him hop the fence and your neighbor shoots him anyway,

676
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: So I say, while he's there, you gotta make a

677
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: move on him. Yeah, you make you make some fair points.

678
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: What about you, guys, Corey, what do you think Mark

679
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: should do? Yeah, that's a tough that's a tough question. Um.

680
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: I guess the first question you have to answer is

681
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: is I mean, is your desire to kill the deer

682
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: you know it strong enough that doesn't matter which weapon

683
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: you use, or do you really feel that you gotta

684
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: kill him with your both? Because, as I agree with Dan,

685
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: if if you just want to take that animal right

686
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: now at the time to do it because he's there obviously, um,

687
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: but if you are dead set because you started hunting

688
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: in with the bow, that's the way you want to

689
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: do it. You know. I like your shotguns sanctuary idea. Um.

690
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: I think you have enough cover right there in that

691
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: general area, and obviously there's food there that if you

692
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: stay out of there, you've got to you know, probably

693
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: sev it's pretty solid chance that he stays. Like Dan said,

694
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, any time hot bill could come through there,

695
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: or something random could happen. You know, the neighbor's dog

696
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: runs through their barking or something like that happens, but

697
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: you don't expect he takes off, and the neighbor guy

698
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: does happen to kill him, and you see his picture

699
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: on Facebook tomorrow and you're thinking that should have been

700
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: out there. So, yeah, that's a tough that's really tough. Yeah.

701
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: I don't know that Buck is. He's a wanderer too,

702
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: Like he's got the he's got the personality that be

703
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: a buck to still, you know. Like, So, I don't know.

704
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: I just think he's he moves around a lot for

705
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: being four years old, there's no doubt about that. Well,

706
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: and especially for how much you've seen him. So I

707
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: don't know, Like especially, I don't know. It's up to

708
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: whether you wants him with a gun or bo I think,

709
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: I mean to what you're doing. And but if you

710
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: want to, if you want to kill him, then I

711
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: don't think there's any better time to know, I will say, though,

712
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just he's he's very daylight active, right,

713
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: we've by by by far, he's the most daylight active

714
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: ever Buck I've ever seen. But all of it, at

715
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: least all of it that I've observed or gotten on

716
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: trail camera. It's all in like a two yards square area.

717
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: I mean it's in a very small area. So it's

718
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: like he has this little tiny area where he's like

719
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: very comfortable. But like I've never seen him or gotten

720
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: daily pictures of him anywhere outside of that. Um, So

721
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, he's kind of figured out that there's

722
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: this little sweet spot he can be that you know,

723
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: he's not going to get killed, and I'm just keep

724
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: on hoping that, you know, if I don't screw that up,

725
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: one of these times, I'll build engine there and get

726
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: a shot. But you get take them in there, then

727
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: you should be able to get them. Yeah, I don't know.

728
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: I think I think the positive thing on that farm

729
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: New Hunt, Um, you know is that you have a

730
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: large volume of dose there. So typically I think when

731
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: there's a mature buck at least what I've seen, um

732
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: in an area with a lot of does, there's not

733
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: a ton of competition for those does. I mean there's

734
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: another bucks there, but there's plenty of dose kind of

735
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: go around. So the chances of him, you know, going

736
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: too far astray from that little on the neighbors and

737
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: then on your piece. UM, I don't think he's going

738
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: to take off and go too far drink shotgun with

739
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: the pressure around there. So I think you do have

740
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: a good chance with him making it and having a

741
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: chance with your both. Um. But like Dan said, you know,

742
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: if you want to kill the deer, you know, the

743
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: next couple of days while he's on your place is

744
00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: probably the best time. Um. So yeah, I know there's

745
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: a there's bucks down here and some of the places

746
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: at a hunt, and they don't show up until right

747
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: before during shotgun and they know where it's safe. And

748
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean if you see if you're seeing him that

749
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: noon today, yeah, I mean, he knows where all that

750
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: he's at. And you know he's been through the gun

751
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: seasons in Michigan before, so I don't I don't think

752
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: he'll go anywhere. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

753
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: I mean, running the cameras down here, even it's crazy

754
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: how many giant bucks show up um into these like

755
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: little sanctuaries and they hang out there for that whole

756
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: gun season, give it a little time, and then they're

757
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: gone again. And then they just I mean I swear

758
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: they even show up like a day or two before

759
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, you guys start wandering around right before season.

760
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: They just know when that's happening. And I'm sure holy

761
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: Field knows it too, So sure that's why he saw

762
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: him just standing up in daylight noon today and he

763
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: was in the middle. Yeah, and he was in the

764
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: middle of the CRP field like where there's no trees

765
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: or anything around for at least a hundred yards on

766
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: any side of him. Just we're you know, no hunter

767
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: was going to be you know, this is an area

768
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: I bet he's with a hot dough right now in

769
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: that CRP. She was bedded down, you know there was

770
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: There wasn't when I saw, but there certainly could be

771
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: no or could have been earlier. Was was it tall

772
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: enough to where you could see like his feet? And

773
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: you know if if he if there was a doe

774
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: betted within ten yards of him, would you have been

775
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: able to see here? No, I wouldn't been able to

776
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: see her. The only reason why I think he wasn't

777
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: with the dose because I watched him walk away and

778
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: walk into into timbered cover. I got you. You know,

779
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: earlier before the season, Dan, I talked about like these

780
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: two little betting ears that I think he uses the

781
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: most betting area, the front betting air and back betting area. Right. Well,

782
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: he was in the CRP field, which was in front

783
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: of the front bedding area, so even closer to the road.

784
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: And then he walked from that into that front bedding

785
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: and this little patch of brambles and little trees and

786
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: junk like that. Um So, I don't know, but we'll see.

787
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: I need to go buy him. Was a loader, I

788
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: guess if I'm gonna go out, go try to do that.

789
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: So enough about enough about my story of holy Field,

790
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: because I feel like everyone has heard me talk about

791
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: them so many times. All the comments I get now

792
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: are just just kill that deer already. So so, Corey,

793
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: you were the well you killed before you killed after Dan,

794
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: but before me and Ross. So tell me about your hunt,

795
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: because two days beforehand you texted me or maybe you

796
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: were taught to tell me on the phone. You said,

797
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: all right, tomorrow morning, I'm killing this buck at am.

798
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: You told me that. Now you didn't do it. You

799
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: didn't pull it off at ninety am that next day,

800
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 1: but the following day you did. How did you do it? Um? Well,

801
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 1: but I guess I'll start from the beginning. The property

802
00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm hunting is about se of you. Know, marsh crp

803
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: uh sporadic kind of cedars. And then on the far

804
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: east there's um a big oak flat that's kind of

805
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: a big ridge or a big hill. The neighbors all

806
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: in the majority of it. And then the property that

807
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: I have, um you know, um rights to hunt only

808
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: has maybe two acres of that big hillside. But anyway,

809
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: that's kind of the general picture of what the place

810
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: looks like. I did put about a half acre food

811
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: plot in this year of oates and brassica the white

812
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: to institute mix, which has helped keep a lot of

813
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: deer in there. But anyways, I got pictures of this

814
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: book about the first week of October. I think it

815
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: was right around like the fourth or fifth or something

816
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: like that of October. I got pictures of him um

817
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: at night, and I only had, you know, a handful

818
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: of picture. I knew he was there, but I just

819
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: wasn't getting anything during the day. And then I think

820
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: it was like the twenty second or third of October,

821
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: I pulled the card and he was there and daylight

822
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: like two minutes after daylight, um you know, and he

823
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: was headed headed back into the six stuff. And so

824
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: I assumed based on the fact that it was right

825
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 1: at daylight, that he's probably bettered in there. And um,

826
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys, but I kind of

827
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: do follow that moon guide a little bit. And I

828
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: was looking at November you know, fifth and sixth being um,

829
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: you know, red moon days, and I just, um, I

830
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: figured my best chance of killing him with the only

831
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: daylight pictures I had of that deer were you know, um,

832
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: first thing in the morning, and with those being good

833
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: movement days, I figured, um, if I could get close

834
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: enough to where he was better, that I may have

835
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: a shot at him. So I slipped in there. And

836
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: it was a stand that I hung last year, and

837
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: I have not said it at all this year, and

838
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: this was the first six and um, I was able

839
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: to kill him, like like you just said, it was,

840
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: I think it was by the morning. So that was

841
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: kind of what transpired. So what what specific really happened though?

842
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: You snuck into that stand in the morning, and tell

843
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: us a little bit more about how that stand was positioned,

844
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: why was that stand a good spot? And then what

845
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: happened with the actual encounter? Okay, Um, so the stands

846
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: to kind of paint the picture, um, like I, like

847
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: I described a minute ago. There's like a like a

848
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: big hill that's like a like a kind of like

849
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: an oak oak ridge. I guess it's a bestually to

850
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: think of. There's a lot of red oaks up there,

851
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: there's some cedars, good betting area. It's kind of thick

852
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: on one end of it, and it drops down into

853
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: this little I don't know, it's probably a couple of

854
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: acre like kind of marsh with a bunch of brush

855
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: and bushes of really thick area there. Anyways, I positioned

856
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: to stand on um would be kind of the northeast

857
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: corner of this little um swale hole right at the

858
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: edge of the big hill that kind of goes up

859
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: into that oak flat. Um. Anyways, based on the pictures,

860
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: I got to that trail camera and I figured he

861
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: was probably bettered up on that ridge somewhere um and

862
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: the windows out of the southwest and I had to

863
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: stand position where come in from the north, getting the stands,

864
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, at the wind in my face, and I

865
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: figured if he was either headed back across this marsh

866
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: to go up the hill into the bedding, or if

867
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: he was in the betting. He got up and moved

868
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: to all during daylight at the first couple of hours.

869
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 1: That was gonna be my best chance to actually shoot

870
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: the deer. And um what happened was about um twenty

871
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: after eight that morning, a little six point or four

872
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: key I couldn't really get it, didn't get a real

873
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: good look at him, came down to a scrape, UM,

874
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: freshened up the scrape, stood there for a few minutes, UM,

875
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, worked the looking branch, and then he looked

876
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: back up the hill and UM, I could tell he

877
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: was kind of getting nervous. And then all of a sudden,

878
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: I hear this really loud like snort wees and like

879
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: he just come charging out of there, and the little

880
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: buck took off. UM and what I didn't bout the time,

881
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: and there was a dope better than that marsh about

882
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: it's a little high piece of high grout off the marsh,

883
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: like maybe forty yards away. I didn't see her. And

884
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: he chased off. A little buck stood there at the

885
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: scrape and then kind of started working out into the march,

886
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: kind of headed towards me. In about that time, UM,

887
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: I still hadn't seen the dough yet. The little buck

888
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: was still standing there, and he kind of this buck

889
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: just kind of um stood in the stick of brushy stuff.

890
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: So I have one of those little can calls, you know,

891
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: dough bleat, So I had cold dough bleat. Of course

892
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: his ears perked up, look straight at me, and started

893
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: coming my way. So I thought I was gonna be great.

894
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: And um, about that time, I saw a movement. I look,

895
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: and she stands up. I don't know if she heard

896
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: the dough bleat the can that I can't call I used,

897
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: or if at this time he was getting close enough

898
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: to her that she just got up. Um. So then

899
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: he locked on the dough and um, you know, then

900
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: of course the calling was out the window. I wasn't

901
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: gonna call a whole lot more to him because I

902
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: figured it was over. And he stood with her or

903
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: he stayed there near her for probably good ten minutes,

904
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: and luckily enough, she kind of started moving my way,

905
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: which gave me a little bit of an opportunity for

906
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: a shot. But it was like I was about forty

907
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: or forty five yards. There was a little bit out

908
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: of my comfort zone. Um. Anyways, I ended up getting

909
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: getting me in and he came into about thirty five

910
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 1: and he was facing me, and I came to full draw,

911
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: just because I was waiting for him to turn and

912
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: she saw me draw. So I'm looking at her out

913
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: of my right eye and I'm looking at him out

914
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: of my left eye, and luckily she looked back at him.

915
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: So I left the boat down, and um, you know,

916
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: he kind of you know, he was still locked on her.

917
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: She was getting nervous. She didn't spook, but she started

918
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: to kind of. She bounded through or three times away,

919
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: and he turned to go around this bush and he

920
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: gave me like a thirty three yard shot, and I

921
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: slipped the arrow in there. And I'm the only one

922
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: about our yards. So that's basically the story in a nutshell.

923
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: Nice nice alright? Alright, Stan, what are you wondering about this? On? First?

924
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: My first question, and it's because we've talked about it.

925
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm curious when it comes time to draw back and

926
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: you know, pull, squeeze the trigger, let the arrow fly.

927
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: What's running through your head? All right? Me and Mark

928
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 1: have both had what I would almost say some kind

929
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: of a tart target panic episode, if that might be.

930
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: Want what you want to call it? What goes through

931
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: you your head at the last you know moment or

932
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: do you feel like you're you have a moment of

933
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: clarity or is it kind of autopilot? I would say

934
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 1: it's yeah. I would say there's more autopilots and clarity.

935
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: Um with me, it's kind of weird if I get

936
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: time to look at a deer. Um. Like a lot

937
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: of guys say, man, I like them coming in really fast,

938
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: I just take look up shooter, all right, and they

939
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: go in to autopilot and make a shot. I'm kind

940
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: of the other way around, actually, because I like, I

941
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: like to see the deer and I know, once I

942
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: know for sure, I make the decision. You know, that's

943
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: an animal I want to harvest. Um. I kind of

944
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: I think I become more confident with the time, especially

945
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: when I watched his demeanor like this year was kind

946
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: of I could tell he was a hundred percent focused

947
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: on that dough. So I knew as long as I

948
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: didn't get her completely alerted, I had time to kill

949
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: the deer. You know. That's kind of the way I

950
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: looked at it with this hunt. Um, So there was

951
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: a little more confidence in that shot than other shots

952
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: that I've taken. I think, like you said, when they

953
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 1: come charging in and you're like, oh, jeezus a shooter.

954
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: I think you just go on a lot of guys anyways,

955
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: go on autopilot, and sometimes you rushed the shot. You

956
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 1: don't make as good of a hit as you'd like. Um,

957
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: not because you're a bad archer, just because you know,

958
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: emotions set in and you maybe squeeze trigger a little

959
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: bit premature or something. Maybe you know, right right? Yeah,

960
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: what do you think, Corey? Um? You know I listed

961
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: off a couple of things I thought probably led to

962
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: me actually pulling off my hunt. What do you think

963
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: the couple of core things were for you that you

964
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: did right that led to you getting that shot? Okay? Um,

965
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: I would say probably the number one thing was um

966
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: not being I knew he was there, like I said

967
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: several weeks before. And part of the reason I didn't

968
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: hunt that stand is it's the furthest stand on the

969
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: property from r I park and enter the property, and

970
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: this this property is a little bit difficult for access

971
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of good betting and thick cover

972
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: between where I parked to enter and where this this

973
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: area and the property is. And I think I could

974
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: have probably went in there obviously when I got those pictures,

975
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, the twenty two of October. I could have

976
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 1: been all excited, said all right, I'm going there tomorrow morning.

977
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: He's there, I'm gonna try to kill him. Um, But

978
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: it was still early. I had a few more weeks

979
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: before I was going to Ohio. I had some other

980
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: good stands on the property, and I think leaving that

981
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: stand alone and fitting it for the first sit on

982
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: Like I said that November six, with the good moon, Um,

983
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: the right wind Number one I had went in my face,

984
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: you know, blown out over this open area. A wait

985
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: from here. I thought he was betting and um, you know,

986
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: doing those things right. Having gotten there a couple of

987
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: weeks earlier, Um, he could have been there. Sure might

988
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: have might have worked out just fine, but he probably

989
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been a hot no, which which is partly

990
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: distracting him. You know, gave me the opportunity. And um,

991
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: I could have burned the stand out and you know,

992
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: hunted it two or three times and then never got

993
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: the opportunity. So I think probably first sit right wind,

994
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: and I waited till later in the year to go

995
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: to that best stand, So that would be my That's

996
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: what I think. So Okay, do you run a lot

997
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: of Do you run a lot of trail cameras? Um?

998
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: I I have like five or six, like not all

999
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: on the same farm. I usually put two on each

1000
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: one of the properties I hunt. Um. You know, I'll

1001
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: put one kind of on the outside edge or where

1002
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: there's a you know, um close to like maybe a

1003
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,479
Speaker 1: food source, and then I try to put one back

1004
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: in the cover. And I only check that if I'm

1005
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: going into to that stand or I'm in that area

1006
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: where you know, I'm already in there to hunt, so

1007
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, make extra trip in there. Um.

1008
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: I use the more dis inventory like a lot of

1009
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: guys that think put them on certain trails and try

1010
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 1: to figure out time when they're going to and from.

1011
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: But I mostly use it just is there a buck

1012
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: there that I want to try to hunt? Is it

1013
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: worth my time? Why? For the most part, Yeah, yeah.

1014
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: Speaking so speaking of rut, I'm jumping a little bit here,

1015
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: and if if you Ross or Dan have more questions

1016
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: about Corey specific hunt here, well, I guess before I

1017
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: jump here, do either one of you us have any

1018
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: other questions for Cory about this hunt? I don't, No,

1019
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: We're good, all right, Corey? I want you to tell

1020
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: the story because I've alluded to this in past episodes.

1021
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: We've talked about the infamous bumping dump tactic many times,

1022
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: but we've never had anyone on the show who has

1023
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: actually pulled it off until today. You, Corey Fall, have

1024
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: pulled off a bumping dump and you killed a booner.

1025
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: Can you tell us how that will happen? Because that

1026
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: was during the rut too, so that's a that's a

1027
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: rut tactic that you could try meathetically. Yep, that was

1028
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: actually another November six morning, three years ago. So the

1029
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: same morning, Um, yeah, that hunt I was in Iowa,

1030
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: and I knew there was a few big deer, of

1031
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: course on the front. Every year there's a least a

1032
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: couple of the big deer on the farm. Um. But

1033
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: what had happened is the other guy that Huntset Farm

1034
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: had a trail camera in this general area in September

1035
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: and he got two pictures of a profile side view

1036
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: of the deer I ended up killing, and I knew

1037
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: it was a big deer and those and I want

1038
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: to say he moved the camera shortly thereafter, but at

1039
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: least I knew the deer was there, and I had

1040
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: been hunting another area of farm and I was seeing

1041
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: some two year olds and I think I might I

1042
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: might have seen one three year old, but you know,

1043
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: nothing that was super exciting anyways. Um, I had this air,

1044
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: this one particular finger was real intriguing to me and

1045
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: I'd never hunted it. Um. And then one morning, of course,

1046
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: the morning of November six, that was pouring down rain,

1047
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: and I you know, had the option of do I

1048
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: go out and I do not have good rain here?

1049
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: How make that fayre right now? Um? So I thought, right,

1050
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 1: do it? So they're not good? They're not good. Um?

1051
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: So do I go out and sit in the rain

1052
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: in the stand that I had been hunting or one

1053
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: of the one of the two stands I've been hunting,

1054
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: or do I sleep in and wait till the rain

1055
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 1: passes and maybe move the standards scouting? So I chose

1056
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: the ladder there. I waited, um and got in there

1057
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: around eight thirty nine o'clock I think it was. And

1058
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: my thoughts were, it just rained, everything was soaking wet,

1059
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, um, the best time to scout a new area?

1060
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: Said that, Well, I'm gonna sneak in there if there's

1061
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: some bigger rubs and scrapes or some really fresh signs.

1062
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hang on. That was my That was kind

1063
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: of the goal. So as I'm walking in, it actually

1064
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: worked in my favor. I spooked some turkeys and they

1065
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: flew over this ridge and and I'm I was walking

1066
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: through a standing cornfield down one of the roads, and

1067
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: they happen to fly while I'm watching them fly, and

1068
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: I happened to look and at that time, this this

1069
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 1: big buck stood up out of this kind of betting

1070
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: around this little point, and he saw the turkey spook

1071
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: looked into the corner to see what had spooked him.

1072
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: But because there was you know, the corner of six

1073
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: or seven be high, he never really saw me. Um,

1074
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: and I had to win in my face. So that

1075
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: worked out nice, and he founded out of there. So

1076
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: immediately I realized, you know, it's nine o'clock in the

1077
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: morning and he was in their bed it. So I

1078
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: immediately went in, looked around and found a couple of

1079
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: good rubs, nothing super um impresses for rubs and scrapes.

1080
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 1: Here a couple of scrapes and a couple of rubs. Um.

1081
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: But there was like five big beds out on this

1082
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: point where he'd been moving around to your based on

1083
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: the wind or for advantage point. So I thought this

1084
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: is the time. So I ran, hurried up, scooted over

1085
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: and pulled down one of my um uh lone wolf

1086
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: tree stands, moved it over um to this particular area,

1087
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: and checked the wind for the evening hunt hung the

1088
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: stand sat from I guess it was about ten thirty

1089
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: eleven in the morning something like that, and he actually

1090
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: came back in to check that bed that bedding area

1091
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: later that accidents who's gone all day? And about I

1092
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 1: guess it was like ten minutes or four dark that evening.

1093
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: He actually came in through the corn right where I

1094
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: had been, um you know, down the end of his

1095
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: of his bedding area, and my shot he met like

1096
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: thirty three yards. So that's basically the old bumping dup

1097
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: you've told me. You told me about that moment when

1098
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: he stepped out of the corn, and it was a

1099
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: pretty cool tell us about what that, what that looked like,

1100
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: and what that felt like. Oh jeez, So I'm sitting

1101
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: there and the wind is blowing, you know, I had

1102
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: a northwest land It was probably ten miles an hour

1103
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 1: so and it was that, you know, how you guys

1104
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: have been there, you know that last like half hour

1105
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: before dark, when the wind is still there but it's

1106
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: starting to die down. About every three to five minutes,

1107
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: it would die down a little bit, and I could

1108
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: hear some rustling in the corn standing corn behind me,

1109
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to move a ton, and I

1110
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 1: kept kind of looking over my shoulder and I didn't

1111
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: see anything. And then, you know, five minutes before dark,

1112
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: I hear the cornstalk break and it's thirty yards north

1113
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: of me, and it was him coming out of the

1114
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: corn and into this little clearing, and it was the

1115
00:56:53,880 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: most unbelievable. It was like shock, fear, excitement on disbelief

1116
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: all in one because I'm like, oh my there here

1117
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: he is no way, you know what I mean, because

1118
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: I've gotten a pretty good look at him, and from

1119
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: the side, you know what I mean, You've got like

1120
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: eleven and a half inch, he twos and three, so

1121
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: he's got long times. But when he stepped out, it's

1122
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: that immediate, you know, bushel basket on top of his head,

1123
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: and you're just I mean, there's no question. I'm like,

1124
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: that's a big, big beer, and you know, but the

1125
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: coolest thing is is he stepped out and there's you know,

1126
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: a row of it's like a sense row of trees,

1127
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: and there's this little tiny gaps maybe we're like a

1128
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: truck to drive through. But he came all the way

1129
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: to the gap stuck just his headed and not his

1130
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: full body, and he scanned. Whether that's the coolest part.

1131
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: He scanned for probably two to three solid minutes, which

1132
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: alt like ten, but it was probably two minutes. He

1133
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: had come down the window over his betting area. Luckily,

1134
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'd taken pretty good precautional cent control that day. Um,

1135
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: but he didn't win me. And he came in and

1136
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: he stood there for like I said, two or three

1137
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: minutes and really just surveys scanned the whole little point

1138
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: and ridge and um visually to make sure that there

1139
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: wasn't anything threatening there before he went in there. And

1140
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: then he looped way out around and um, you know,

1141
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: to come back in. And I think what he was

1142
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: really gonna do. He wasn't gonna in bed there right there,

1143
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: obviously because it was late in the evening. I think

1144
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: he was just coming back in kind of the check

1145
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: to say, are right, whatever suit me? Out of here.

1146
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: Is it a threat? And can I come back in

1147
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: here tomorrow morning? It's the winds right and bed down here.

1148
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: That's what I honestly think he was doing. And you know,

1149
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: of course he was unaware that I was sitting right there,

1150
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: so um. And as he kind of headed up to

1151
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: that spot where he was better, he passed by it

1152
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: right about thirty yards and and I went on autopilot

1153
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: and made a shot. But it wasn't it was. It

1154
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: was a decent shot. But yeah, that's that's what happened.

1155
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: So and then you moved back to Michigan exactly. You're right,

1156
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: I was already that was okay, okay, so before you've uh,

1157
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: you've hunted there since that year? Um? Yes, So now

1158
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: that that box dead, has have you ever scarted that

1159
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: air hunted that are again? Where a new bucks moved

1160
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: into that betting area or how has that worked or

1161
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: other mature bucks using that same betting area now that

1162
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: he's gone, or yeah, that's that's a that's a fantastic question. Um,

1163
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: I yes, I do believe. Um. Like I said, I

1164
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: get unbo every other year, so on the off years,

1165
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: I can't speak for that, but um, the other guy

1166
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: that does hunt there has a trail camera that's that's

1167
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: within a hundred and fifty yards are still there. And um,

1168
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: the following year he was getting pictures of another I

1169
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: think he was probably a four year old, you know,

1170
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: hundred and forty un midboot forty type class cun point

1171
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: they had moved into that area. Um, because the year

1172
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: that I killed that big deer, UM, I had sat

1173
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: really close to the well, I mean a couple hundred

1174
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 1: yards but fairly close where I could see up into

1175
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: that draw a little bit. And I had seen basically

1176
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: just a couple of small bucks kind of skirting the

1177
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: outside edge. But I think the year that he was

1178
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: in there, he was the buck. I really don't think

1179
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: there were too many other deer using that area. But

1180
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: of course now that he's gone, UM, I think there's

1181
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: been several other bucks that are that are kind of

1182
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: using that point. I think it's more of a you know,

1183
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: it's it's it's an advantageous um view, more of a

1184
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: vantage point. I mean, obviously they used the wind, but

1185
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: you could see really if you go getting that bucks

1186
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: bed and kind of kneel down. UM. I don't like

1187
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: Dan in Fault does this type of stuff a lout

1188
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: where you can see from the deer's actual line of site,

1189
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: you can see quite a way down into this this draw,

1190
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: and there's a creek bottom. I mean you probably can

1191
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: see a hundred and fifty yards, which was huge because

1192
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: anything coming up from the bottom we'll get when it

1193
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: gets into the fifth yard, he's he can see it,

1194
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: and he's out of there, and he can lay with

1195
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: the windows back and he's he's got it. He's kind

1196
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: of golden. So um, it was a great spot. And

1197
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm certain that there's other bucks used now. But you know,

1198
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: one of my questions about that scenari You know, when

1199
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: you bump a deer I his bed, you know you

1200
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: want to set up near that bed. But I think

1201
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: the biggest, like the crux of that tactic then is

1202
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: putting your trees down in the right place so that

1203
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: you don't get winded but you're within range of getting

1204
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: a shot. What how did you pick that tree? Like?

1205
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: What were you think? Were you thinking through all these

1206
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: things or what was going through your mind there? Yeah? Well,

1207
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean there was there was two factors I looked at.

1208
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: The one that was probably the best for the shot

1209
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: was just a bad tree. There was a tree that

1210
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: was like twenty yards from the little point where he

1211
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: had through four really good beds out on this point

1212
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: where I could see, and there's a couple of trees,

1213
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, have like a buckle lay there, and there's

1214
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: a big rub right where he's betted, you know, like

1215
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: where he maybe stands up and stretches and rubs. There's

1216
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: a couple of those right there. And there was a

1217
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: tree that would have been prime, because any any spot

1218
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: off that point he came in, I would have shot

1219
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: twenty yards match. But the tree itself was like a

1220
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: bur oak and head um. It was on a weird

1221
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: lean and it was just it was just gonna be

1222
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: of pain. And I thought I didn't want to be

1223
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: in that tree. But then I started thinking, okay, um,

1224
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, where am I going to have more than

1225
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: one shot? Because at that point I could shoot him

1226
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: as soon as he got on to that point. But

1227
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: what if he never made it? You know, that was

1228
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: my thought. I thought, well, if he never gets to

1229
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,439
Speaker 1: all the way out to this point, then I never

1230
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: have a shot, you know what I mean. So I

1231
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: started thinking about that, and then I moved it closer

1232
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: to the edge of this um edge of the cornfield

1233
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: because there's like a um, I guess there's a little

1234
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: cut where it drops down and there's like a like

1235
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: almost like we're a farmer's path where like a tractor

1236
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: drives through right there, and there's about a fifteen yard

1237
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: wide strip where any deer that comes from the north

1238
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: or south kind of has to pass by this stand

1239
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: and then if he wants to get up on that

1240
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: little point, that's where I had like the thirty year shot. Um,

1241
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: so it actually gave me like three shots from the

1242
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: from the tree that I picked. Um. Neither one of

1243
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: those trees are really good for the wind because of

1244
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: the fact that um, what he did him, he did

1245
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: it on three h sixty degree circle down the land.

1246
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: So I just I think lucked out because I was

1247
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: high enough up on this hilltop kind of and um,

1248
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: you know my scent control. I think I just lucked

1249
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: out that he didn't win me, to be honest with you,

1250
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: because I think almost all those big bucks will do

1251
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: a pretty big jay hook or three sixty loop around

1252
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: their betting area, and I mean, you know you're not

1253
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: You're never gonna be sent free. UM. I think I

1254
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: just um the angle that he came in and in

1255
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: the height that I was in, the tree just worked

1256
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: out for me. So yeah, I gotta say, I don't

1257
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: know anybody who hangs their stands as high as you do, Corey. Yeah.

1258
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: I have been known to hang him up there a

1259
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: little way, and I think, Ross, you can attest to

1260
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: that catch you. Yeah, Actually the book I shot my

1261
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: deer out of this year, Corey hung that stand for me. Um,

1262
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: probably want to start that haying this thing, because there's

1263
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: no way I would have got this thing in that tree.

1264
01:03:56,040 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: It's like up there, it's crazy, but your face was

1265
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: prices this year, Mark when you came to the one

1266
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: and looked up at that standard, Mark was like it

1267
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: was you know it's up there ways literally, remember at

1268
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: least Cord was up there. Man, he was just I

1269
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna die the whole time, Like I

1270
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: had my phone in my hand, raid to speed down

1271
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: nine hm on well in Corey. Well, Corey is just

1272
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: a wild man when it comes to hanging trees. He's

1273
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,919
Speaker 1: just a tree monkey up there, and he does things

1274
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody else who would do them, but

1275
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: you get away with it, So I guess with that.

1276
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: With that said, ross Um, tell us about tell us

1277
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: about your hunt and the tree that Corey hung your

1278
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: standing years and years ago. So yeah, yeah, he hung

1279
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: that years and years ago. I remember, uh the next one.

1280
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: At the time, I was looking for some new places

1281
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: to hunt, and it sounds really like a special I

1282
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: was looking for some out of the way properties, maybe

1283
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 1: that people didn't you know, have permission or didn't didn't

1284
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: un they're overlooked because most of the like everybody all knows,

1285
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: most of the really good stuff is already spoken for.

1286
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: So you know, I was looking for looking on maps

1287
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: and looking for places that looked like good they had

1288
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: good potential, and then just from driving around, I got

1289
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: a good idea where all the year we're at where

1290
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: they felt safe. And then you know, you glass in

1291
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: the summers and even in in the fall, and you

1292
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: can spot some pretty nice bucks. And so after doing that,

1293
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: found some a really good area. And then you look

1294
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: at the neighboring properties and you can see they're kind

1295
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: of like these open pasture, kind of you know, cattle farms,

1296
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: not really a lot of cover, you know, spotty woods,

1297
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: mostly open, but they bordered the really good stuff. So

1298
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: so I decided I looked at one and like that one,

1299
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: it looks pretty promising. So I stopped by the farmer

1300
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: and got talking to him and shed hunted it at first.

1301
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: As I did that, I was I was kind of

1302
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: sculpting it out, found found nice, shed it on some

1303
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: amazing sign and then I knew, old man, I got

1304
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: to ask permission to hunt this place. So I luckily

1305
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: asked at the right time because somebody was hunting it

1306
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: was no longer hunting it, and uh fortunately I got permission,

1307
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: which I'm really thankful for. And then so it's just

1308
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: kind of like a there's just it's eighty acres. It's narrow,

1309
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: uh say, like two forties stacked on each other. Without

1310
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: the first sixty acres is pretty much it will be

1311
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: like corner beans. And then in the back twenty there's

1312
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: some cattle pasture. It's all open. It's there's a nice

1313
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: crick bottom, but it's kind of got those like rocky

1314
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: cliffs and stuff like that. So i'm those ridges. Then

1315
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: out of the neighboring property there's some nice trails and

1316
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: some of the gear kind of funneled through into some

1317
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: of that pasture down and then even to the crowd

1318
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: fields there. So it was a really nice tree that

1319
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: I found and I looked at that thing, there's so long,

1320
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: and I took pictures of it. I think he even

1321
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: sent Cory pictures. I don't even remember. Um. I'm like,

1322
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: can you get a tree stand in that tree? And

1323
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: and thankfully he did. It's been a good tree to me.

1324
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: When he was saying that thing, I remember him sitting

1325
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: on like he was sawing a limb that he was

1326
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: sitting on, like it was just the scariest thing I've

1327
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: ever seen. But it has been an awesome tree. Um.

1328
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: And so that's the spot. I've hunted quite a bit

1329
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: for the last few years, but I haven't I don't

1330
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: hunt a lot anymore. Um. This year, I've been hunting

1331
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: a different farm. There are a couple of really nice

1332
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: bucks that I was hoping to get good a crack at.

1333
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: I had one good opportunity at one early on, but

1334
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: just wasn't really the greatest and I kind of let

1335
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: him walk. And I was kicking myself later on after

1336
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: that because during the run I was seeing tons of

1337
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: two year olds and it just was not seeing the

1338
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: mature years. So it got to be towards you know,

1339
01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:01,919
Speaker 1: like November ten to eleventh that kind of leven things

1340
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: were still slow over there. UM and actually decided to bail.

1341
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: And so since we were getting close to like lockdown,

1342
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: m I kind of thought to myself, you know, my best,

1343
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: my best opportunity and issue of mature buck is going

1344
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: to be at this place I was talking about. UM.

1345
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: And the reason for that is is because later in November,

1346
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: closer to lockdown, and during lockdown, a lot of the

1347
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: big box that are on the neighboring properties, they start

1348
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: pushing those dolls into those like isolated secluded little pockets

1349
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 1: of woods and into the pasture ground away from all

1350
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: the other deer. UM. So I thought, well, I'm just

1351
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: gonna give it a shot and see what happened. So

1352
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 1: I got in there, UM real early set up, and

1353
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: it was the awesome morning was on the most frosty mornings,

1354
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 1: beautiful morning, not a lot of wind um and you know,

1355
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: you can hear some of the footsteps initially is it's

1356
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: starting to get light out, some doughs and falling started

1357
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: trickling in and they kind of hung out around might

1358
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: stand there, kind of heading back into all the cover

1359
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: across the fence under the neighbors. UM and so as

1360
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: I was sitting there, I was watching this dough in

1361
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: front of me. She was just standing there for the

1362
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: longest time. She just wouldn't leave. I was actually kind

1363
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 1: of getting annoyed by her, and she just sat there

1364
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: and sat there and sat there. And then I was

1365
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 1: just kind of staring at her, and I heard some

1366
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: crunch into my left and then that's when I saw

1367
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: just a glimpse of rack. And like, right when I

1368
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: saw that Rack, I was like, Okay, it's gonna happen.

1369
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: And I knew it was a shooter right away, and

1370
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: I could seem so through some seaters. He went over

1371
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: to a tree, started raking the tree with his with

1372
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 1: his antlers and putting on a shell and uh, and

1373
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: I got I got ready, and that dolt was still

1374
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 1: in front of me. I couldn't stand up. I was

1375
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 1: kind of stuck where I was at. But I was

1376
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: in a good position where he was off in my

1377
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: left that could make good could still make a good shot.

1378
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: And the doll then that that buck was with, she

1379
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: kind of instead of coming down the trail right in

1380
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 1: front of me a fifteen yards is which they were

1381
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 1: gonna do, actually probably ten It would have been a

1382
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: pizza cake shot. She actually popped out and headed towards

1383
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: the pasture behind me, kind of angling, and then I

1384
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, because to my left around the tree,

1385
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: it gets kind of tough shooting. There's not as much room,

1386
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: there's not as many opportunities. So I got really nervous,

1387
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: and uh so I was kind of slowly starting to

1388
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 1: squeak around my my stand to try to get into position,

1389
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: and that big buck turned when he started to walk

1390
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 1: and follow her. So I'm watching that dough to kind

1391
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: of get an idea of where that buck is, the

1392
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: path that buck is gonna take, so I can be

1393
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: prepared for when I got to stop, when I need

1394
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: to stop him or or I'm going to get a shot.

1395
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: And of course she takes this angle that doesn't give

1396
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: me any shot opportunities. I'm like crap. So at that

1397
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 1: point I'm watching this fuck. He turned and looks at me,

1398
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: and he's kind of where out in the hill is

1399
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: kind of high level, and he's just like looking right

1400
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: through me. It's one of those like freaky moments where

1401
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: where you're you think they can see what they can

1402
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: but they're just like looking right through you. And it

1403
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: was really it was crazy for a while that I

1404
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: was just gonna get busted, but he didn't bust me.

1405
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: He turned and then he just started to follow her,

1406
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: but fortunately he didn't follow straight behind her. He kind

1407
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: of angled towards me a little bit, and then so

1408
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,799
Speaker 1: he was on the perfect path to give me a shot,

1409
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 1: and in an opening he got behind a little bush.

1410
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: I drew, and then as he brooke that bush, I'm

1411
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: drawn and I can feel my cam resting right against

1412
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: my bull hook, and I was like, oh crap. So

1413
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: then there's like a little bit of a panic moment

1414
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: where I'm just trying to kind of shimmy and and

1415
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: squat a little bit and kind of hunched down and

1416
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: get it in position where when the canselon't hit up,

1417
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: camel hit the hook. And as I did that, I

1418
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: finally found a spot and he was slightly quartering to me,

1419
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: and I let the arrow fly. Unfortunately hit him a

1420
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: little back and kind of angled back a little bit,

1421
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 1: so it was not an ideal shot. He took off

1422
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 1: and I saw him stop on the hill. I could

1423
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: see his rack, and then he slowly kind of left

1424
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: and so after some a lot of thought process and

1425
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 1: asking all the buddies and Mark and Cory and everybody.

1426
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: I decided that to leave him overnight, and I shot

1427
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: him in the morning. And I thought them all shoots,

1428
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: I could go look from the night, or I could

1429
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: just look for him the next morning. So I decided

1430
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: to give him twenty four hours. And then my buddy Peter,

1431
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: my dad and my wife and then my son we

1432
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: all went tracking the buck next morning, which was a

1433
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: great will be a great memory. Um, we got on

1434
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: this trail and ended up finding them dead and in

1435
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: some cover. So it was a pretty awesome hunt. But

1436
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: I think I'm really glad I made the decision to

1437
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: kind of just fail on the one property and go

1438
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: for broke kind of where I knew. I knew it

1439
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 1: gets hot around that time season, and I shout him

1440
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 1: in November twelve. I don't know if I mentioned that

1441
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: or not. That's the day shut that thought. So you

1442
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 1: went off historic data, you know, basic information you've collected

1443
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: over the year, saying hey, I know that. I mean,

1444
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: is this information based off trail camera pictures or just

1445
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 1: from the stand intel? No, just from the stand. You

1446
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: know that this this spot you can walk better. Instance,

1447
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: there's not there's not too much to like figure out

1448
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: you know, there's not there's not too much thinking that

1449
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: needs to go into it. It's it's it's more. It

1450
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: was more off of observation and just kind of knowing

1451
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: the property from over the years and just knowing that

1452
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,560
Speaker 1: it gets good later on. Um, you know, early in

1453
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: the season, you can you can see a nice buck,

1454
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: but they just don't you don't come into that farm

1455
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: until those dolls start coming into eating those those bucks

1456
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: start bringing them over there, those dolls kind of start

1457
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 1: getting away from the crowd or even one was like

1458
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,600
Speaker 1: when those dolls get there's so many deer on the

1459
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: neighboring properties, and I mean there's so many little bucks

1460
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 1: and they just harass the crap out of those dolls.

1461
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: And those dolls even kind of will will come over

1462
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: into that crappier pasture ground to get away from the

1463
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: crowd because it's just sick of being her asked, I think.

1464
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: And uh, and then those bucks know that too, and

1465
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 1: then they'll start like later on, they just start running

1466
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: those little circuits in there. So that's kind of why

1467
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: why why it's a little good later on? What about

1468
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: the position of that tree stand, because I think you know,

1469
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 1: like you said, this property is kind of featureless into

1470
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: some degree. There's not a whole lot of cover on

1471
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: all the covers on your neighbors. But but I think

1472
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: because of where that tree specifically is, you're able to

1473
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: catch that movement. Can you elaborate a little bit more

1474
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 1: on specifically, you know, right where that tree stands and

1475
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: why that does seem to funnel a lot of the

1476
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: deer traffic past it. Um. So it's just like there's

1477
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: a if you're going through those front fields that I

1478
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: was talking about, you get to the end of the

1479
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 1: field of defense and then this pasture um and it

1480
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: kind of makes a big downward sloping hill and then

1481
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 1: it meets some trees on the on the ridge that

1482
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 1: so it's kind of like down there, um, you know,

1483
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: halfway down that hill there, and then there's this ridge

1484
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: that meets the property and it's it's got some cover

1485
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: to it, it's rocky, it's got these rock outcroppings and

1486
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 1: there's a crick in the bottom, the same thing on

1487
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: the other side, and then it connects to the to

1488
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: the lease where there it's just thick covers those ridges.

1489
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 1: It hits that fence and then all of a sudden,

1490
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: it's just this thick, nasty stuff. It's like the most

1491
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,520
Speaker 1: beautiful white kilground you could ever imagine. It's just gorgeous,

1492
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: best betting areas you can ever imagine. And uh so

1493
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: those deer they always it's really hard to get him

1494
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: across that fence, and so they kind of run that

1495
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 1: fence and they'll they'll run that ridge especially like you know,

1496
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: if you have a if you have if you have

1497
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: a north wind, and this ridge runs east west to

1498
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: have a north wind, um, they'll run that ridge. And

1499
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 1: occasionally they'll hop that fence and and run that ridge

1500
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: on the leeward side, and so they feel safe that way. Um.

1501
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 1: But then all the stuff you know, to the then

1502
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: it connects to it all kind of funnels down into

1503
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: that area. So down into that kirk bottom and that

1504
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: ridge so kind of makes like a nice funnel and

1505
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: then it's right tight to a lot of a good cover.

1506
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 1: Um where they come from. Yeah, I got to hunt

1507
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 1: with you in that stand once or twice a few

1508
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: years back after I I shot a buck in in

1509
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: Iowa down there, and then I filmed you for a

1510
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: few days. And to that point, those two hunts were

1511
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: the most mature big bucks i've ever seen in a

1512
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 1: single day on I think the first day I saw

1513
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: four and the next day we saw like five or something. Um. Yeah,

1514
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 1: that was crazy. That that was, you know, and it

1515
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: hasn't never been the same ever again. No, it's fun.

1516
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: Every year it gets a little flower, you know. And

1517
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: that's what happens a lot of times. Like all of

1518
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: our properties, you know, they don't they don't last forever

1519
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: and you sometimes they lose permission or they just don't

1520
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: wearing as good as you used to be. In this

1521
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: one's kind of that way. It's still good. Still killed

1522
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 1: a really nice buck, um, but with the hunting pressure

1523
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: on the names, they just pound it and never and

1524
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: it just gets really slow. Um, there's more piles now,

1525
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: there's more pressure everywhere. Just it's kind of slowing down

1526
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: a little bit. Still can kill a really nice talkpod man.

1527
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 1: I wish I could go back a few years. That was.

1528
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: That was amazing. Yeah, that was pretty crazy. Well, this

1529
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: one was nothing to scoff at. It was what your

1530
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 1: second biggest buck is that? Right? Yeah? Yeah? Nice, he's

1531
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: a beautiful I'm assuming it was four, I don't know,

1532
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 1: mid one fifties, ten, so he's a great deer, big deer.

1533
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,839
Speaker 1: And I actually saw him the week prior to the twelve.

1534
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: I saw I was, I got Matrey stand, I sat

1535
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 1: down normal, and fifteen minutes later I saw him cruise

1536
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 1: at kirk Bottom. Um called to him a little bit,

1537
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: but but he just went on his merry way and

1538
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 1: he uh. I did have a camera in there dan

1539
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: a little bit, and I did get him on camera

1540
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and he seemed like he was

1541
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 1: he seemed like he was the man right in that

1542
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: little section. Man he was checking. There's a couple of dolls,

1543
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 1: doll groups that kind of use that regularly, and he

1544
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: seemed like he was really running back quite a bit. Actually,

1545
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: I think I saw him early in October. Also, It's

1546
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: hard to say, but I'm pretty sure I saw him

1547
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 1: early October. So you must have been betting on the

1548
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,719
Speaker 1: neighbors there and then he just kind of was checking

1549
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 1: those does that ended up getting kind of pushed out

1550
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 1: in those pastures a little bit during the rut. How

1551
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: how much do you rely on trail cameras as as

1552
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 1: far as Intel is concerned. I know it sounds like

1553
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:39,719
Speaker 1: you just kind of made a random move this year

1554
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: but on other years, are you are you using trail

1555
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 1: camera pictures to you know, make this tree stand decisions?

1556
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: You know? During the season, not so much I do.

1557
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: I put him on some usually on cameras on scrapes

1558
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: and get inventory. But a lot of times I'll put

1559
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: my cameras in areas where I think I maybe consider

1560
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: during hunting or want to get in full for maybe

1561
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 1: like the next year. Um, and I let him sit

1562
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: there all year, and I just don't leave them go

1563
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: and then I pick them up after the season. That's

1564
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: usually what I do. I don't, I don't, and then

1565
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: you know, the following year, I can see you, okay,

1566
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: this is what's going on there and what kind of

1567
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: deer were in the area, and then I use that

1568
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: for the next year. But usually I'm not really good

1569
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: at letting stuff sit that much, or if if I

1570
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: had cameras, I was kind of the check and I

1571
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 1: think I do more harm and good because I'm just

1572
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 1: not I'm not that good at leaving them alone on

1573
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: some of the properties I'm hunting. But but usually it's

1574
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: just for inventory, dan I don't. I try a little

1575
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 1: bit here and there, but usually it's just just kind

1576
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 1: of see what's wrong and run them on most screens

1577
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: Right now. Speaking of that, Ross, I know, I correct

1578
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, but I think you've kind of seen,

1579
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 1: just based on our conversations in the past, that on

1580
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 1: another one of your properties, there seems to be a

1581
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 1: pretty consistent uptaking activity. And like late November, Um, are

1582
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,759
Speaker 1: you is that something that you that you were Kendall

1583
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: your wife are planning on trying to key in on

1584
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 1: on that property as we get later into this month.

1585
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 1: Is that? Am I right on that? And then be

1586
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: as something You're gonna, Yeah, Kendall's gonna. I mean, as

1587
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: long as you know we can make it happen, She's

1588
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: gonna try and capitalizeing that, like you know, like that

1589
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving time and even towards like that really early December

1590
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: time is just it can be awesome. And um, a

1591
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: lot of times, I'm one of the farms that have

1592
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 1: permission on there's the biggest Bucks show up right around

1593
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and they stick around, um for a week or

1594
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: two there, and it's it's it's pretty cool to see.

1595
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 1: And uh, I was really trying to hold off for

1596
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 1: something big this year and if I wasn't going to

1597
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 1: shoot something earlier. I was going to really camera it

1598
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: around that time frame. UM. But a lot of the

1599
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 1: neighboring properties and kind of, like I said right before,

1600
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: shotgun team, they just kind of pile in there and

1601
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: they check those last dose and those big those big

1602
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: bucks to start, they just start moving. Um. And then

1603
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 1: you know, living in Wisconsin stuff, I never experienced anything

1604
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: of that because in like Michigan, the gun season so early.

1605
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: But I want you get to see some of that

1606
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: because the gun seasons in December where is I never

1607
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 1: experiencing that before. I would have never thought you could

1608
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: have such amazing hunting, you know, towards the end of November,

1609
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 1: beginning of December like that. Yeah, Yeah, that's That's one

1610
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 1: of those things that me and Corey have always talked

1611
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: about trying to key in and on down in Ohio,

1612
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, in the past when we haven't filled our

1613
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 1: tags early, we've always talked about trying to get back

1614
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: there on Thanksgiving because they have that similar situation. Their

1615
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: gun season doesn't open until later. Um, when you get

1616
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 1: that activity that you just wouldn't have here in Michigan. Um.

1617
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: And three years ago. I did go down there at

1618
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: that time frame, and I saw two of the two

1619
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 1: of the bucks I was after in the middle of day.

1620
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: So that always is something that's kind of stuck with me.

1621
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 1: And I always thought to myself, if I, if I

1622
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: didn't have that tag failed, that would be the time

1623
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: to go give it another crack and uh shoot down hangings.

1624
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 1: You know, we had Don Higgins on the podcast a

1625
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and he's a huge proponent of that

1626
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 1: late late nove ever time period. So if you're still

1627
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,440
Speaker 1: out there trying to fill the tag, it's there's still opportunity.

1628
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know. I was actually really looking forward

1629
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: to that time. I wasn't really I wasn't looking forward

1630
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 1: to holding on to my tag that long, but but

1631
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: I was. Actually I would have been pretty optimistic I

1632
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 1: could at least have maybe a good encounter or two

1633
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 1: of some really mature year which but even that property

1634
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 1: you're hunting in Iowa last year, Um, that great big

1635
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 1: buck you you had an encounter to withs like I

1636
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: ended up getting him on camera. What was that like

1637
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: December one or something? Daylight? Yeah, and you egg it's

1638
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 1: a it's a great time. Yeah. Yeah. I Unfortunately quick question,

1639
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: quick question, Ross, If you could only I gave you

1640
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 1: two choices to hunt first week in November or last

1641
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: week you can November. What would you pack? Well, you

1642
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 1: know what on the property that I properly I can hunt,

1643
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: I would say last week November. I don't know if

1644
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 1: I say that for every property, but you know what

1645
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: I can, I would say last week November. If I

1646
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 1: want to shoot him matured dear. That's when I went

1647
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 1: on Corey same question. Oh, I guess I'm gonna have

1648
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: to go the opposite, Um and probably say the first week,

1649
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: not because I don't think ross is hard present, correct,

1650
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: I just think that for me, Um, you know a

1651
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, if I want to kill

1652
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 1: a true, truly mature dear, I'm gonna be hunting out

1653
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: of state, and you know for seeing them. For me anyway,

1654
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: it's the best, dear, movement usually is that, you know,

1655
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: November three to the eight has always been historically the

1656
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: best for me. Um. But again it's a different situation

1657
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 1: like if you know, if if you live there and

1658
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 1: you have a couple of farms that that have, you know,

1659
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: you had that experience with I think that lazy late members,

1660
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: you know, awesome. But for me, I'm going first week mark.

1661
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: That's what I'm sa I think I would probably still

1662
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: say first week, not again, like Corey said, not because

1663
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: I don't believe that the last week can be really good,

1664
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 1: but simply because the majority of my own personal experience

1665
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: of good activity has always been earlier in November, and

1666
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: just because I would be looking at what other people

1667
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: have told me for the late Novemver being really great

1668
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 1: versus what I've seen personally being early Nevever being really great.

1669
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: I would probably just feel a little tiny bit more

1670
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: confident going with the first week. What about you, Dan,

1671
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: I would Uh, I don't know. I I to be

1672
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: honest with you, I really have never put a lot

1673
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: of time in the tree stand late or the last

1674
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 1: week in November, because I've used all my vacation before that.

1675
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: But I would probably lean towards the last week of

1676
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 1: November just based on because so you're based on that,

1677
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: just on other people's testing testimony in space. No, I'm

1678
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: basing it off what my trail cameras have told me

1679
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 1: throughout the years. It's to me, it seems like that

1680
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 1: the first through the five or even into the seventh

1681
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: is is good. But if I want like a giant,

1682
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 1: I'll be waiting longer. Yeah, Okay, I was just gonna say,

1683
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 1: I think there's something about the the everybody always says that,

1684
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: you know, hey, you gotta get you gotta get on

1685
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: these deer before these does go into heat. I think

1686
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: everybody we may be overstepping or forgetting about the opposite,

1687
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: where bucks are cruising after all the doughs have been

1688
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: bred and still looking for um, that last potential hot dough.

1689
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 1: I think for me, I think I would that that's

1690
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: what I would base it off of and what my

1691
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 1: cameras have said, yeah, my county address. Well, yeah, I

1692
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 1: think there's probably like so many different right answers, just

1693
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 1: depending on where you're at. Um, just from my experience

1694
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 1: when I'm where I'm hunting what I'm hunting now, I know,

1695
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: like the best time for the years I've learned to

1696
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: kill matary buck where I'm at, it would be that

1697
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: last week of October, and then it gets slow right

1698
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 1: around Halloween first, a little bit of November. There's always

1699
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: the first couple of the early doughs, seems like the

1700
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 1: big bucks are on them, gets slowed down, it picks

1701
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 1: up a little bit kind of when you guys were talking,

1702
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: and then it gets really slower and lockdown, and then

1703
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: that Thanksgiving weekend gets crazy again, birth around you know

1704
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: that later after lockdown, Thanksgiving, that kind of thing. I

1705
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: just that's just my experience and that's just where I'm at.

1706
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: But I know there's different different scenarios for different places.

1707
01:26:56,479 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: But that's kind of what I've noticed. Did you have

1708
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 1: something to say for me? Yeah, I was just gonna

1709
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 1: say what I've always heard from you know a lot

1710
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: of guys that have been successful on Big Deer is

1711
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 1: you know those mature bucks. You know, I'm going to say,

1712
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 1: you know, you're four and a half year old and older.

1713
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean three and a half the mature dear, but

1714
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 1: a truly mature four year old and older. I think

1715
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: a lot of those books, I've always heard guys say,

1716
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, they want to breathe the first dough that

1717
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 1: comes in, you know, which is awesome, Like Ross said,

1718
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: you thirty first of October, that that last day or

1719
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 1: two of October, and then they want to they want

1720
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: to get that first dough because they've been through the

1721
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 1: rut several years in a row. They know what's going on.

1722
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: And then they also want to breed the last does

1723
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 1: that come in because they want to kind of hold

1724
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: onto the whole experience the longest is my my kind

1725
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: of way of looking at it, is what I think, Um, like,

1726
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: I know, maybe that's maybe that's not the right way

1727
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: to put it, but that's kind of what you know

1728
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 1: what I mean. So kind of the middle part of

1729
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 1: the rut, you know, you've got a majority of that

1730
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: does coming in, but you also have all the two

1731
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: year old year net of old running everywhere, So you're

1732
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 1: asked percentage of seeing the most Bucks. There's probably that,

1733
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, through through the tenth But I think, like,

1734
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 1: like you know, um, you guys both just alluded to

1735
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: if you want to kill a true giant, you know,

1736
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: five and a half, six and afyear old Bucks, it's

1737
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: a home body you're probably better off killing. And like

1738
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 1: ros said that last week in October or that last

1739
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 1: week remember truth, like you're you're probably right one piece

1740
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:24,759
Speaker 1: of Devil's advocate at Devil's Advocacy here to think about.

1741
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 1: And I agree, I agree with everything you guys are saying.

1742
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: One potential downside of that or one reason why in

1743
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 1: some areas that time frame could be more difficult, though,

1744
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,600
Speaker 1: is the hunting pressure factor. You wait three and a

1745
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: half more weeks, even if even if there isn't a

1746
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: gun season, even if it's just bow hunters, you know,

1747
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 1: if you've got three more weeks of guys hunting hard,

1748
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:48,919
Speaker 1: and let's be honest, that first two weeks in November

1749
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: is when the majority of guys are really putting in

1750
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 1: their serious tree stand hours. You know, guys are traveling

1751
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: out of state for the rutcations where they're taking their

1752
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 1: vacation time and hunting all day. So that's probably other

1753
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 1: than on season, that is the highest concentration of hunting pressure.

1754
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 1: So if you wait till after all that, you're gonna

1755
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 1: have your biggest impacts on those deer too. So I

1756
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 1: wonder if in the areas of most in the areas

1757
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: of low hunting pressure, you do see that really great

1758
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: late movement, but maybe in the areas with high hunting

1759
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:22,719
Speaker 1: pressure it's less so simply because of that hunting impact

1760
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: pressure impact. Yeah, most definitely. I know. I know, if

1761
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't in Iowa and I didn't have the opportunities

1762
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: I have, I wouldn't be saying that. You know, if

1763
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 1: I was in Michigan and like hunting public land, I

1764
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: would I would never say that. I would. I would

1765
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:38,719
Speaker 1: probably say I'd spend most of my time in October

1766
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,600
Speaker 1: trying to kill mature buck in a betting area or

1767
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 1: something like that instead. So that's definitely areas specific, you know, um,

1768
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 1: because in Iowa, yeah, I wouldn't probably say that. Michigan,

1769
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: Heck no, I wouldn't say that. Or you know, if

1770
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: you have a big, big managed property, of course it's

1771
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 1: going to be a totally different scenario. But but really,

1772
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 1: I mean, if you do your homework and needs I'm

1773
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 1: I'm betting areas and and you do really good scouting,

1774
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 1: and you know, October is just as good at a

1775
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 1: time as I need to kill them mature buck. Yeah,

1776
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 1: very true. So all right, so we we've got to

1777
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 1: wrap things up here, but I want to ask one

1778
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 1: final question for all of us here. So all four

1779
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 1: of us have killed a buck during the route this year,

1780
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 1: so we're successful. But at the same time, I'm sure

1781
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 1: each one of us either made a mistake or and

1782
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 1: learn from it or just learn some type of lesson

1783
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 1: for some other reasons. So I kind of want to

1784
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,799
Speaker 1: know for each one of us, what was your biggest

1785
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: lesson learned from this year's rut um And Dan, since

1786
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 1: you're a pro with this kind of stuff, I want

1787
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 1: to start with you because I make the most mistakes.

1788
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're pro at these tough questions that

1789
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 1: I send out at Just so, what is your number

1790
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: one lesson learned from the two thousand and sixteen rut

1791
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 1: You know this is gonna sound kind of cocky, right,

1792
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 1: but I don't feel I had the opportunity to make

1793
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes this year. I got I'm I

1794
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: had one of those seasons where I I went in,

1795
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 1: I I did what I had tried to do, and

1796
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: I was successful. You know, it happened right away, and

1797
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, we talked about this the

1798
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 1: last podcast, about being lucky. But at the same time,

1799
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 1: everything that I did was kind of calculated. It just

1800
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 1: so happened that a buck was there when I started

1801
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 1: my vacation and I tagged out early. But if I'm gonna,

1802
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm really gonna try to force myself

1803
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 1: into a learning situation here, I would say that it

1804
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 1: would be every hunt that I did this year I

1805
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 1: took place in was a first time in scenario where

1806
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: it was, you know, like I didn't. The only stand

1807
01:31:56,000 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 1: I hunted two times this entire year was the stand

1808
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 1: that I shot my buck out of. Everything else was

1809
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 1: in and out. If I didn't see anything, I wasn't

1810
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 1: going back to it, you know. Or I was setting

1811
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 1: up for for a dough and I tore it straight

1812
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 1: down and left and didn't go back. I didn't I

1813
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 1: didn't put unnecessary pressure on certain stand locations. Interesting, all right,

1814
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:30,440
Speaker 1: what about you? Corey? Um? For me, I'm going to say,

1815
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 1: patients is probably what I learned. I mean, I've always

1816
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:36,600
Speaker 1: mean I said and say I learned patients, But I

1817
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 1: mean being patient on the property was probably one of

1818
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 1: the number one reasons that I was able to be

1819
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 1: successful in the past. Um, maybe that's so much an

1820
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 1: isol of it. In Michigan, I typically, you know, I

1821
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 1: go out of state every year the first week or

1822
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 1: two in November. So I always, you know, give myself,

1823
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 1: only give myself. You only have about three or four

1824
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 1: weeks to get it done here. So I've found the

1825
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 1: past that you know, if I get a trail camera

1826
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 1: picture on October tenth or twelve, and I think to myself,

1827
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 1: while and they have fifteen eighteen days or something before

1828
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 1: I leave. Um, I gotta get in there and shoot

1829
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 1: that deer. I gotta try right away. And maybe I

1830
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 1: don't wait for the right wind, or maybe I go

1831
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 1: on a low percentage day you know it's too warm,

1832
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 1: or you know something else. And I didn't do that

1833
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 1: this year, UM, and I kind of worked more of

1834
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,760
Speaker 1: that outside in approach. UM. I hunted other stands and

1835
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 1: I waited to that, like I said, that best stand

1836
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: that's kind of back in their ways to the right day. UM.

1837
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 1: And it was my first sit first time in and

1838
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 1: historically for me. UM, I don't know what you guys think,

1839
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 1: but my first two SIPs on UM any of my

1840
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:46,839
Speaker 1: stands are obviously the best, and I think almost all

1841
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 1: there maybe one of the good bucks I've ever killed.

1842
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 1: And then in the first two SIPs, So yeah, I

1843
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 1: think patients just not getting overly aggressive too soon, you know.

1844
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:01,839
Speaker 1: In October, UM is what really helped me about you Ross.

1845
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 1: I think it's getting tougher less time, you know what

1846
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,600
Speaker 1: I used to have. So I think I'd just have

1847
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 1: to work on being a little bit more prepared or

1848
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: not shut hunting him Smudge, probably starting a little bit

1849
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 1: more of that kind of thing. So I think I

1850
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 1: spend my time doing stuff that might be not as productive.

1851
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 1: So this year I got I got into seasons. You know,

1852
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:28,679
Speaker 1: I was prepared, but then I wasn't. You know, things

1853
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 1: change every year and I wasn't prepared from the ready form,

1854
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 1: didn't even much time. So I feel like I kind

1855
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 1: of got kind of got a little behind um, which

1856
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 1: hurt me a little bit. So I think just using

1857
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: my time a little bit more wisely. Like in spring

1858
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 1: question for next year, did you have a kid this year? Yeah?

1859
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, well that's me as well, both of

1860
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,560
Speaker 1: us did. Yeah I saw that, I saw Corey. I

1861
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 1: knew you had one, but I didn't know that you

1862
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 1: had one Ross, So yeah, obviously I changed things. Yeah.

1863
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 1: So first off, congratulations to both of you, and second off, well,

1864
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 1: good luck hunting as hard as you have in the past.

1865
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 1: Exact a little a little bit, a little bit just

1866
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 1: being a little bit smarter, not not harder, kind of same,

1867
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, right, That's kind of what I gotta focus on.

1868
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: So so my biggest lesson I learned, My biggest lesson

1869
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 1: learned this rut, based on what you guys have just

1870
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 1: been telling me, is to not have a kid, that is.

1871
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 1: You know, if my if my wife wasn't so close

1872
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 1: to me, i'd probably say yes. But instead I have

1873
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 1: to say something like, you know what, Mark, just keep

1874
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 1: an open mind and blah blah blah blah blah. I'm

1875
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 1: just kids and I'm looking forward to having one of

1876
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 1: those little rascals. Um. In all seriousness, my biggest lesson

1877
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:03,679
Speaker 1: learned probably would be taking what you and Corey said,

1878
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: but the opposite. So I think my mistake a may

1879
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 1: this this year, and I don't know the mistake it

1880
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:15,799
Speaker 1: may is that I hunted too hard for holy Field

1881
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:19,679
Speaker 1: too much. So what happened was that by the time

1882
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 1: the rut rolled around, I wasn't getting as much dough

1883
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 1: activity up in the couple of spots I can hunt him. Instead,

1884
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 1: most of the does were stand back at the cover

1885
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: or on this wide open field, and so that's where

1886
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 1: holy Field was. I think if I had not hunted

1887
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 1: so hard in October for him there, I think I

1888
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 1: would have had a better chance of catching him in

1889
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 1: late October early November in there if that was my

1890
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:45,759
Speaker 1: first or second time in there instead of my fifth

1891
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: or sixth time in there. Um. So the issue though,

1892
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 1: is that I chose to do that to push it

1893
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 1: early because I was getting daylight sightings of them, So

1894
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, It's like it's weird catch twenty two.

1895
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 1: Usually when you have daylight activity, you want to move

1896
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 1: in on it. But that daily activity did not translate

1897
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 1: into a close enough daylight encounter. So this is this

1898
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 1: is the thing I've been battling with. Is didn't make

1899
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:16,559
Speaker 1: wasn't was a mistake going in there? And if not,

1900
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 1: we're I don't know. Obviously was a mistake because I

1901
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 1: didn't kill him. So now I just need to try

1902
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 1: to fare out how to make the best of this

1903
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 1: the second half of the season. But that's probably my

1904
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 1: yet to be completely figured out lesson. All Right, I

1905
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 1: know that was supposed to be the last question, but

1906
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:37,679
Speaker 1: I have another last question. If that's okay, Mark, Yeah,

1907
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 1: go for it. Okay. So, uh, Ross and Corey, have

1908
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 1: you guys ever shed hunted together? Oh? Yeah, yeah, Okay,

1909
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 1: all right, So I'm gonna remove myself from from this

1910
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna ask Corey. I'm gonna ask

1911
01:37:55,760 --> 01:38:00,839
Speaker 1: you first, who is a better shed hunter? Mark or Ross?

1912
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: This is just a straight up question, who's a better

1913
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 1: shed hunter. Yeah, who's a better hunter? I'm gonna have

1914
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 1: to I'm gonna I'm gonna have to go with Ross.

1915
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's because Mark. I don't think

1916
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 1: it's because Mark couldn't be equally as good. It's just

1917
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 1: because Ross has had significantly more experience and more time

1918
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 1: doing it, and um, especially in Iowa. So yeah, I'm

1919
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 1: gonna have to Mark. You're you're good. I'm not saying

1920
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 1: you're bad, but Ross Ross is actually ros actually better

1921
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:35,600
Speaker 1: than I am. And all I heard was all I

1922
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 1: heard was Ross's is better than Mark. Now now now,

1923
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 1: now Ross, you founded with hunted with with both Mark

1924
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:54,839
Speaker 1: and Corey? Who's a better shed hunter? Marker? Corey? Corey? Okay, Okay,

1925
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 1: now now Mark, who's a better shed hunter? Rosster Corey?

1926
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 1: All right? This is this is the ultimate question here.

1927
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna say, go for it. I'm gonna say

1928
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 1: Ross because he plays by the rules. They don't teach

1929
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: me how to walk straight lines in Michigan. When you

1930
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 1: when you walk with those guys, I know, I know

1931
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 1: you've said hunting with Mark, right, he said, Wait, both

1932
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 1: of them, are they like are they like a hundred

1933
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 1: yards ahead of you, I'm there lying like blowing your

1934
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 1: doors off, walking like practically running. Well, I think this

1935
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 1: is I don't know. I don't want to, you know,

1936
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:44,799
Speaker 1: say it, but this is all speculation. We were one second.

1937
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: We we were walking down a ridge and I swear

1938
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 1: to god, I thought I saw Corey go, hey, look

1939
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 1: is that a shed? And Mark turned his head and

1940
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 1: then Corey jo pumped in front of marx line and

1941
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 1: then walked walked like forty yards and saw you know,

1942
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 1: he saw a shed like twenty yards before Mark saw

1943
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 1: it and then just jumped in front of You know,

1944
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful when you shed hunt with Corey

1945
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 1: because he you know, honestly, I don't know. I can't.

1946
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 1: I can't about Corey Banish shed poacher. He's fun, but

1947
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 1: he does have a knack for just finding him somehow,

1948
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:30,640
Speaker 1: Like not only did he get that one right in

1949
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 1: front of me, but the absolute worst and maybe I've

1950
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 1: told the story before, but the absolute worst ever. Me

1951
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 1: and Corey were walking this new property that we've always

1952
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 1: wanted to walk, like we always talked about we gotta

1953
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 1: walk this spot, we gotta walk this spot, but we

1954
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 1: never did. And it's just all this big crp Field.

1955
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 1: That's in this area where there's lots of big deer.

1956
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 1: This is in Iowa, and we're right around this area

1957
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 1: where Ross hunts and everything. And so me and Cory

1958
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 1: go walking through. Then we walk at walk at and

1959
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 1: we didn't see anything. So we were coming back out

1960
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 1: to the truck. And just before we get to the

1961
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 1: truck and me and Court like, at this point, we're

1962
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:05,719
Speaker 1: done shed hunting. We're just walking back because we'd already

1963
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 1: walked all the good stuff. Me and Corey are like

1964
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 1: right next to the our shoulders are almost touching. We're

1965
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 1: just bs and talking as we walk back. And as

1966
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 1: we're walking, I hear a clunk next to me, and

1967
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:19,600
Speaker 1: Corey had kicked something and he's like huh, and he

1968
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 1: bends down and he picks up like a sixty five

1969
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 1: inch ship. He's like, oh, look what I stucked on.

1970
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 1: And I was so pissed he does. I have a

1971
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 1: feeling like right now Corey is boiling mad. He wants

1972
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:40,719
Speaker 1: to beat our ass. Oh no, I'm doing alright. I'm

1973
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 1: just having fun. As he's looking at his booners on

1974
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 1: his on his wall and he's looking at all the

1975
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 1: sheds hed Corey Corey definitely has. Core is a very

1976
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 1: good shed hunter and he we all occasionally have to

1977
01:41:54,320 --> 01:42:00,600
Speaker 1: get lucky, but very true. All right, I'm glad I

1978
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 1: got to have that in their day. We gotta have

1979
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 1: a part to part two of this conversation. I like

1980
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:08,720
Speaker 1: the four of us. That would be fun. That's fun.

1981
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 1: That was good. What we really need to do. We've

1982
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: been trying to get you to come down and meet

1983
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 1: us Dan during our shed hunting trip down that area

1984
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 1: this coming spring. At some point we all have to

1985
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 1: get together or next year, me and Cory will probably

1986
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 1: be hunting Iowa at the same time you guys will be,

1987
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 1: so maybe get together during deer camp two. Amen, that

1988
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 1: would be you're gonna have You're gonna have your you

1989
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:32,759
Speaker 1: have a trailer now too, so true, we're gonna be camping.

1990
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:36,760
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta convince Core that it's okay, that

1991
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 1: it's to sit by the campfire. Though I'm the one

1992
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 1: who doesn't want to sit by the campfire, let's be honest.

1993
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 1: But right, yeah, I don't want to get smoke. I

1994
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 1: don't want to get all smoky. I know, I don't.

1995
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 1: That's we're hunting. Last year we were hunting, and we're

1996
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,240
Speaker 1: sitting on the fire and here Mark is like sucking.

1997
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:08,360
Speaker 1: Mark standon like seventy yards away, probably wind of the smoke,

1998
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 1: so terrified of that smokes. She's like seven yards away.

1999
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:18,599
Speaker 1: Always gonna be thinking about scent control protocol, guys, always

2000
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 1: as the combine is admitting like toxic fumes out of

2001
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 1: its Yeah, that's true. All right, Well, I think we

2002
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 1: do need to wrap this one up, but it's been

2003
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. So thank you Corey and thank

2004
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 1: you Ross. Thank you. It was fun, all right, And

2005
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 1: with that we will wrap this episode up. I hope

2006
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 1: you enjoyed this one as much as we did. Now,

2007
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 1: before we go, though, we need to thank our partners

2008
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 1: who helped make this podcast possible. So big thank you

2009
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 1: to Sick Gear, Redneck, Blinds, huntera Maps, Yetie Cooler's Osonics,

2010
01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 1: Carbon Express, Maven Optics, and the White Tail Institute of

2011
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 1: North America. And finally, thank you all for joining us today.

2012
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 1: I hope you're hunting season has been going well so far,

2013
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 1: but if not, keep at it, keep grinding, good luck,

2014
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:15,639
Speaker 1: and stay wired to hunt. Yeah,