1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: If you're about to make a change in your life 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: and you feel uncomfortable, that's the best feeling you can 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: have because for the first time in your life, you'll making. 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 2: A decision that's going to be best. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: For you and not what somebody told you to do. 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: And that's when all bets are off. Welcome to Money 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, Rashaan McDonald. Our theme 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: is there's no perfect time to start following your dreams. 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: I recognize that we all have different definitions of success. 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: For you and maybe the size of your Aham, It's 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: time to stop reading other people's success stories to start 12 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: living your own. Keep winning. My guest is Pinky col 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: she said Jamaican American entrepreneur and founder of Slutty Vegan, 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: a plant based burger restaurant chain based in Atlanta, Georgia. 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: She first became vegan in twenty fourteen and opened her 16 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: first Slutdy Vegan food truck specializing in Viggian burgers, in 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: September of twenty eighteen. I interviewed her in August of 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. She was just starting to blow up and 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: become that national brand. Now she has opened restaurants and 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: created the Pinky Cold Foundation, which seeks to empower generations 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: of color to win in life financially in the pursuit 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: of their entrepreneurial goals. Please welcome the Money Making Conversation Masterclass, 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: the One and Only Pinky Coal. 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: I love that. 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I better. 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: Right, I better be right you. You? You all over 27 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 2: the good place. 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Some people could be all over the place, but you 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: all over the good place. Pinky, tell me what's going on, 30 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: young lady. 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I got so much good stuff going on. 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: First of all, it's so good to make your acquaintance again, 33 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: and just to be here, so it amaans that I've 34 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: been consistent here. I got so much great things going on. 35 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: You know, if if you have been living under a rock, 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: I grace the cover. 37 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: Of Essence, Nag stop me. 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: I should have started with that. Come on, now, rushall, 39 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: slap yourself. 40 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: Now. 41 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: I saw you on the cover. Now see I'm a 42 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: little bit older than you. Okay, Now we talked Piky Cole. 43 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: She was on cover Essen Jap. Now that is something 44 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: you started an interview with now, Because I grew up, 45 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: I grew up in the Jet magazine and the Ebony era. 46 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 1: You know when you was on the cover of Ebony Jet, 47 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: you know you that was like and see and I'd 48 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: like to believe that Essence is that magazine level that 49 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: I grew up the Jet magazine and the Ebony magazine 50 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: and so so when you got on the cover of 51 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: Eboney and Jet, family, friend, enemy a girlfriendhod, everybody wanted 52 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: to be next to you. Now tell me what, tell 53 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: me how it came about, and tell me the experience 54 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: and what did it do to your brand? Piky Cole 55 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: being on the cover of Essence magazine, the number one 56 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: African American female magazine in the world. 57 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 3: So John, I manifested it like I always said that 58 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be able to cover, Like, how are you 59 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: gonna do that? You ain't no celebrity. I said, I 60 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: am going to be on the cover. And I knew 61 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: it in my spirit because I kept saying it, and 62 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: you know, oftentimes when you say those things, those things 63 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 3: become real. So every opportunity that I got when I 64 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: got around the Essence folks, I talked about it. 65 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: I got on their nerves about it. Hey, I'm going 66 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: to be on Essence. When is my day? 67 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: So I finally got the opportunity to talk to the 68 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: CEO of Ritchie Lu Dennis, and I told him the 69 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 3: idea that I wanted to do. I said, listen, I said, 70 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: y'all always have celebrities on the cover. Now is the 71 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: time to put entrepreneurs on the cover who are disrupting 72 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: the industries that they're in, so you can show a 73 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: different light of people who are making it and moving 74 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 3: and shaking love. The idea didn't happen when I wanted 75 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: it to happen, but it happened exactly when it was 76 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: supposed to. And I'm so excited about that opportunity because 77 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: Essence really shifted my brand to a new level, right 78 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: like it exposed me to people who have never heard 79 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: of Sludy Began before. 80 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: And even if you didn't want to know about Study. 81 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: Begon, you learned about Pinky col you learned about some 82 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: entrepreneurs in Atlanta that are moving and shaking, that are 83 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: the millionaires next door, and it really raised the stock up. 84 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: You know what they say, yesterday's prices not todays right, 85 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: don't raise the sock. And I'm just so happy at 86 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: all of the opportunities and doors that have been opened 87 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: because of essence, and you know, that was a life 88 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: changing opportunity and I'm just so grateful to be able 89 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: to have been a part of that. 90 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, it was life changing, but it 91 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: also was a fan because I'm a fan and you 92 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: have a lot of fans, and so because you know 93 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: you are are like I said, you know, you come 94 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: like regular You regular folks, and when regular folks become successful, 95 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: as dreamers, we see as being possible. And I think 96 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: that that's that has always been your guide, That has 97 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: always been the plan to let regular people, every day 98 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: people know that through hard work, faith and proper planning, 99 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: you can win too. 100 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 2: Talk about that, listen. 101 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 3: I've always been a dreamer and I've always been a believer. 102 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: When people see me, they see hope, and just like 103 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: you said, they see the possibility that all things can 104 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: happen if you really have confidence in yourself and you 105 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: really have that level of drive and that drive you 106 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: can't pay for that, right like that's born in you, 107 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: within you, like you developed that with experience and with time. 108 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: So when people see me, I'm not just doing this 109 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: for myself. I'm doing this for my family. 110 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: I'm doing this for the people who want to be 111 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: entrepreneurs like me, who want to have restaurants like me. 112 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: And I'm showing you that that, yes, nothing is impossible. 113 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: You can literally meet a girl from around the way. 114 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: I'm from East Baltimore, got lots in my head. I 115 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: don't look like the typical person that you see on 116 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 3: National TV. But guess what, I'm shifting the atmosphere and 117 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: showing you that you can look like, be like, talk 118 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: like whatever you want to be like, and you can 119 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: still make it as long as you have comfort and knowing. 120 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: That you can do all the things that you put 121 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: your mind to. And that's just how I am. 122 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 3: Look, I woke up, I got on a T shirt 123 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: and some sweatpants, and I'm doing an interview with you, 124 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: And I got big interviews all day, and I'm showing 125 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: people that you ain't got. 126 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: To fit the status quo. You can do everything that 127 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: you want. 128 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: To do as long as you be yourself, your true 129 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: authentic self, and being your true authentic self will get 130 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: you a long way. 131 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: This is a great year. Twenty twenty two has been 132 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: a great year. Like I said, it's been clearly two years. Okay, 133 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: cover essence. You know you did the graduation speech at 134 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: Clark Atland University. Talk about the whole process of gifting 135 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: those LLCs, so people from an entrepreneur understand exactly what 136 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: you did because you know, you just on the outside, 137 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: you really don't know. But it's like putting young people 138 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: in a position to understand how to be business owners. 139 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: Well, you know, first of all, doing Clarktland University's commencement 140 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,119 Speaker 3: was a dream come true. 141 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: So many dream coming truths this year. Right. 142 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: I went to Clarktland University. I graduated thirteen years ago. 143 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 3: And when I got the opportunity to be the commencement speaker, 144 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I have to do something that's going 145 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: to resident. See. 146 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: I gotta stop you something because you just blow pass, 147 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: like like we blue past that essence covering what is 148 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: the backstore? See, I gotta get backstory on you because 149 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: you got so much going on. Your backstore is as 150 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: great as the actually accomplishment. Talk about the backstory of 151 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: them calling you and then you really realize it's happening, 152 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: because that's the ultimate to graduate from a school and 153 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: then come back and do the commitment speed they give 154 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: a pahd to give honors and all that good stuff. 155 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: You know. It's interesting because I actually was invited to 156 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: do Morse Brown's commencement as well. So I was slated 157 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: to do Morris Brown and Clark Atlanta University. Fortunately, but 158 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: unfortunately I was only able to do one. So obviously 159 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick my alma mater. But shout out to 160 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: Morris Brown, they just got their accreditation. Shout out to 161 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: doctor James. That was just an amazing to be able 162 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: to have options, right, Like not many people can say 163 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: that they got options. 164 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: They got to choose what. 165 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: Commission they want to do for historic institutions. 166 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: Historic to be able to have to make hard choices 167 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: like that, I'm like, okay, I'm on the right path. 168 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: So when I got the opportunity to do SAU, it 169 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: was a no brainer. Like, I love my institution. I'm 170 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: always putting on for my school. I'm always telling people 171 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: about why you need to go CAU and why people 172 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: need to support historically black colleges and universities. 173 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: And as a thirty four year old woman who has. 174 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: A mass so much success in a short amount of time, 175 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: we all believe that I can really speak to the 176 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: students in a way that a seventy five eighty five 177 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: year old couldn't rhen it comes to commencement speeches and 178 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: no shade or disrespect to the people who come and 179 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: have the wisdom. But I feel like I could offer 180 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: a different level of wisdom for those students. And it 181 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: was eight hundred and twenty four of those students, and 182 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: I said, you know what, I need to figure. 183 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: Out a way to be able to show. 184 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: These children that you can literally take something so small 185 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 3: and walking to this journey and do all the things 186 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: that you want to do. 187 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: And that was with LLC. So how I came up 188 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: with the idea. 189 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, I want to put these people on a 190 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 3: path to entrepreneurship right when you graduate from college. Oftentimes 191 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 3: many of us do not have a plan. I did 192 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: not have a plan at all. And because I didn't 193 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: have a plan, I had to go through some hiccups 194 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: along the way, go through some speed bumps. But I'm 195 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: so happy that I had to go through those things 196 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: because then I became an expert. And as an expert, 197 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: I was talking directly to these students and telling them, listen, 198 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: you're going to fail, but failing ain't failing at all. 199 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: It is fine. 200 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 3: And aspiration and the losses and I'm going to help 201 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: you find success and all the things that you want 202 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: to do, but I'm gonna set you up on a 203 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: path to entrepreneurship. Whether you want to be an entrepreneur 204 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 3: or not, but this is an opportunity for you to 205 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 3: really jump start your legacy, build generational wealth, even if 206 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: you want to work a nine to five. And I'm 207 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: excited about the response that it got because what it 208 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: showed is is no, I'm not paying all of your tuition. 209 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: But what I'm going to do is I'm going to 210 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 3: put you in position that if you have something that 211 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: you've been thinking about, if you have something that's been 212 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: making your belly leap, now is the opportunity. 213 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: To move on it. Because I literally gave you the 214 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: baton to say, hey, here you go, go run. 215 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: I'm paying for it and I'm hoping hopefully they get 216 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: to pay it forward too. 217 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: That felt really, really good. 218 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more 219 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 4: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making 220 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 4: Conversations master Class hosted by Rashaan McDonald. 221 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: You know and that journey of figuring yourself out because 222 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: you became a vegan in twenty fourteen. What made that 223 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: transition to say I can become an entrepreneur too based 224 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: on whatever my lifestyle. 225 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I grew. 226 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 3: Up in a vegetarian household, So the transition wasn't as 227 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: hard as a lot of people think because I grew 228 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: up in a world where we eat an eye to food, 229 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 3: rice and peas every day. Like I didn't grow up 230 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: eating cheeseburgers and fries. Like I didn't grow up going 231 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 3: to McDonald's. 232 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: That was a treatment. 233 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: That's where you got that pretty skin, the pinky stay 234 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: away from the fries and all that stuff. 235 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't grow up eating I didn't even grow 236 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: up eating candy. But you know, I attributed to my 237 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: mother because she's a Rastafarian. So I grew up with 238 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: a very natural mom who didn't wear makeup, she she 239 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: didn't shave. 240 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: She was very natural eating, like, very holistic. 241 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: So in two thousand and seven, actually I stopped eating 242 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: meat all together, so I was just eating fish and 243 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: then in twenty fourteen, I decided to go vegan. And 244 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 3: I know the difference because my first restaurant was called 245 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: Pinky's Jamaican and American restaurant. 246 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: And I sold your chicken. I sold, I sell and 247 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: I said all the foods I did not eat, but 248 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: I was lying. 249 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: To the people telling them that it tastes good, like, hey, 250 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 3: you should try this, this is good. 251 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: But I didn't eat that. 252 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: So when I realized with something that I would never 253 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: do again, I was not in alignment with my purpose, 254 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: I wasn't being honest, and my business didn't succeed because 255 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: of that, and I had a grease fire and I 256 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 3: lost everything. 257 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: And when I got it back, I got. 258 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: It back through Sludy Vegan because I was literally walking 259 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: in my purpose and walking in my assignment. I am 260 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: fully vegan. I like to give my vegan my friends 261 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: vegan food. I like to have them try to see 262 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 3: if they could see the difference. And now I get 263 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: to capitalize off my lifestyle by having a business and 264 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: using my platform and resources to help people. 265 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: Fort to reimagine food. 266 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: And that is why my business has been able to 267 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 3: be so successful and work because I'm walking in my path, 268 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 3: I in lying to the people, I'm being. 269 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: My authentic self and it just works. 270 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 3: And I'm happy that I get to do what I 271 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 3: love and get paid to do what I love. 272 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: Now eat Plants b I T H mouth water and 273 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: photographs and easy to follow instruction Eat Plants b I 274 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: T eight celebrate Cole's belief that it's fun and as 275 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: sensible of cooking and your irresistible vegan comfort food from 276 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: offer Collar egg rolls, which sounds amazing to her Black 277 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: peak coliflower, coliflower pull, boar, pull boar. It says ninety one. 278 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: Why ninety one is that they just counting ainty one 279 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: that you know, because you always have a method to 280 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: your madness. It's ninety one in particular as a particular number. 281 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: Why you said ninety one? It was just ninety one recipes. 282 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: Ninety one was just a sweet spot. He had kinds 283 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: of recipes. But I'm the person that I want the 284 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: best of the best, and it was about quality not 285 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: so yeah, we had. 286 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: Some more recipes. Ninety one was just a number. It 287 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: just really just like it was just a really good 288 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: sweet spot for like the best recipes. I wanted the best. 289 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: And this cookbook specifically is not just for the vegan. 290 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 3: It's for the person who likes to eat meat. There 291 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: you go, this is the person that just liked really 292 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 3: really good food. So I wanted to make sure that 293 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: all the recipes that were in the book were good recipes, 294 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: whether you were vegan or not. You know, oftentimes we 295 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 3: have a misconception that if it's vegan, it don't taste good, 296 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: it's playing the slaver. Ain't good Like, I wanted to 297 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: eliminate all of that and just make a really good 298 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 3: cookbook that serves really good food. And as long as 299 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 3: you can read and you can follow directions, you can 300 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: really make these really, really good recipes. 301 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: The thing about it is that so many people champion you, 302 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: and I think that I just love you as a person. 303 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: I love you as an entrepreneur. You're so spirited. Where 304 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: is that coming from? You mentioned your mom, But it 305 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: also has to be your surrounding people around you who 306 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: are also believe in you. 307 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: Correct. 308 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 3: I think it's partially that I've always had this and 309 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: it may sound weird, but. 310 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: I believe in good karma. I believe when you show 311 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 2: up in the world as a good person, the world 312 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 2: is going to. 313 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 3: Come back and be good to you. And I live 314 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: my life very honest. I don't lie, I don't still, 315 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: I don't cheat. When I lay my head down at night, 316 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: my conscience is clear because I'm very fair across the board, 317 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: and I do right by people, and I give back 318 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: and I pay it forward. And because I do those things, one, 319 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: my blessings just keep unfolding for me. And two, I 320 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: know that the universe sees me and God is blessing 321 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 3: me because of how I live my life and how 322 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: I'm a model that you can be a good person 323 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: and you can still get all the things that you 324 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: want and you ain't got to be mischievous. 325 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: You don't have to do any of that. 326 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: So I realized at a very young age that I 327 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 3: had a gift, and I didn't quite know what that 328 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 3: gift was, but I. 329 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: Knew that I wanted to make an impact in the world. 330 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 3: As a kid watching Golden Girls with my grandmother and. 331 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like being really in the. 332 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: Trenches with some old folks, and I realized that I 333 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: knew that there was something special about me that I 334 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: could give to the world. And I just literally lived 335 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: my life like that all of the time. Am I perfect? 336 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely mine? I ain't gonna sit here and say I am. 337 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: I'm not the perfect CEO. Sometimes I might not be 338 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: the perfect spouse. I might not even be the perfect 339 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: mother sometimes, but I do the very best that I can, 340 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: and I realize that when you show up as a good, 341 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: wholehearted person, the universe will reward you and you will 342 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: get all the things that you pray about every single day. 343 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, I'm ask you just quoting Pete 344 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: am I looking at the modern day Oprah Winford. 345 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: You know what's so funny? 346 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: A lot of people which is a very big compliment, 347 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: almost too big for me. 348 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: I'm trying to catch up, but a lot. 349 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: Of people say that you know, and I'm like, it's 350 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: such an honor to even be associated with somebody of 351 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: that caliber. That to me feels great, and that tells 352 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: me that one s Okay, Pinky, you got a big 353 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: responsibility here because there's a lot the little girls and 354 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: little boys looking up to you. So everything that I do, 355 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: I have to make sure that not only am I 356 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: responsible for myself, I'm also responsible for how I show 357 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: up because there's so many people watching me. So I 358 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: will take that compliment as often as you want to 359 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: give it, I will take it. 360 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: We will take it because I'm just saying, is that 361 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: I just see you on television, I just see you 362 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: in that medium. And because of the fact the reason 363 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: I say that Oprah had something to say, that's why 364 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: she was successful, That's why she still is successful. She's articulous, 365 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: she was smart. She also graduated over a HBCU, but 366 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: also a person who had a background that that that 367 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: that was constantly moving forward, constantly moving forward. In fact, 368 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: you like to me, you're ahead of Oprah when she 369 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: was when she broke out. So you have a resume 370 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: of being able to teach. You're teaching people, You're delivering 371 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: a message. And I just say that, are you the 372 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: modern day version of Oprah because of the fact that 373 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: we all have messengers at different levels, and I see 374 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: you as a messenger. This is a leap from two thousand, 375 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty when we first met, which I knew you 376 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: before that, But I see I'm more polished. I see 377 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: a much more enlightening lightning you. Usually you feel happier too, 378 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: and I saying you weren't happy, then talk to me, girl. 379 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: I am in love. I'm happy. I got good people 380 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: around me. You know, it's a difference when. 381 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: You have a good team, when you got people that 382 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 3: genuinely love you and don't. 383 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: Want nothing from me. But want you to succeed and 384 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: want you to win. 385 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 3: And I'm very intentional about who I am inviting into 386 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 3: my circle these days. And I'm just living freely. You know, 387 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 3: the last time that I interviewed with you, I was 388 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: still in the kitchen. I was flipping burgers, shaking friess, 389 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 3: I was being the janitor, I was being hr I 390 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: was doing all those things. And while I was doing well, 391 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: I was hustling backwards because I wasn't properly delegating my 392 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: business in order for it to grow in the way 393 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 3: that we did to grow. And as soon as I 394 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 3: stepped outside of my business and started delegating and finding 395 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 3: the right talent to help the business grow, I see 396 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: the shift in my attitude and and my energy and 397 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: also in my business. 398 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: So I'm at a really really good place right now. 399 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: So before we shift out here, the first book Eat 400 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: Plants b I t H. I can't say the word, 401 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: but it's right there that the little Astra native went vegan. 402 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: Recipes that will blow your meat loving mind. Find This 403 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: book is Pinky Coal. It's Simon Schuster, and I'm just 404 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: gonna tell y'all fans of hers, that's how you become 405 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: number one. I've been fortunate in my life to deliver 406 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: three number one New York Times bestseller and the way 407 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: you get there if you want are a fan of 408 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: Pinky Cold and you want a great book, Like I said, 409 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: I like desserts, I like meat, but I'm buying this 410 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: book because I like good food and of recipes. We 411 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: can't discuss it now, the recipes because you know, give 412 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: aay the recipe why you're gonna buy the book. But 413 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: what we can do is say, you know a history, 414 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: you know honesty. Her book is worth buying because I'm 415 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: gonna buy it. But again, Pinky, you know, two years 416 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: was too long, but it's been firm, watching the growth 417 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: and watching the journey. 418 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: Thank you so much again to have me. And I 419 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: cannot wait till you come to say week. 420 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: And come hey baby, I'm there. I'm seriously, I really, 421 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm committed. In fact, I went to the one I 422 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: went to the one over off of I think the. 423 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: Loot Oh yeah experience. 424 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I see your boyer about that location because he 425 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: in bitness. See I'm snuck in behind him. Yeah excellent, 426 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: I see. But I said, when I again, I'm like you, 427 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: I try to be authentic. I don't try to just 428 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: talk to people when I and and just say nice things. 429 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 1: I've experienced your brand. I love what you're doing and 430 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: I and you represent positivity. And I kid you not. 431 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: You are our Oprah of this era. And don't don't 432 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: walk away from that, don't stumble. You will be on TV, 433 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: young lady, and you are going to be a bigger 434 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: are Okay? 435 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: I received that. Yes, thank you so much. 436 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us for this edition of Money 437 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 4: Making Conversations Masterclass. Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan MacDonald 438 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 4: is produced by thirty eight to fifteen Media Inc. More 439 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 4: information about thirty eight to fifteen Media Inc. Is available 440 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 4: at thirty eight fifteen media dot com. And always remember 441 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 4: to lead with your gifts