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Speaker 1: Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break down everything you need

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Speaker 1: let's catch your flex on. Here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon, well.

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Speaker 2: Committed as I want your flex. I'm Dan Byer. He

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Speaker 2: is Mike Harmon talking about all the big injuries, and

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Speaker 2: there were big ones Mike in week seven. I and

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Speaker 2: Roddy is our executive producer. He is hanging out as well.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to rank them in terms of

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Speaker 2: of severity. So you have Deshaun Watson done for the

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Speaker 2: season in Cleveland. There wasn't much fantasy value there anyway,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Aiyuk done for the season. For the forty nine,

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Speaker 2: there's a completely different story. And though in our last

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Speaker 2: far the season when it comes to injuries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a full tumultuous off season, all the

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Speaker 3: question marks of what they were going to do with

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Speaker 3: And guess what Both teams are in disarray, right Cowboys

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Speaker 3: coming out of their bye week, forty nine ers. Everybody's hurt, sick,

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Speaker 3: getting thrown out for fighting, you name it. You have

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Speaker 3: locker room from Shanahan. Whatever was truth? What perception becomes

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Speaker 3: reality in all of this. And for Brandon Ayuk zero touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: Did I tell you Mike that I did a one

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Speaker 2: and then when I does catch a pass, what do

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Speaker 2: done for the season. But because of that injury, I

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Speaker 2: was critical of Ayu community. This is what happens. You're

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Speaker 2: you're rusty, you didn't have those reps. This is what

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Speaker 2: you get with the hold in. Should have been in camp,

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Speaker 2: what sort of guaranteed do you have? And I know

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Speaker 2: is this is the reason why you have hold in.

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Speaker 2: So I completely did a one point eighty four Brandon

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Speaker 2: Ayuk because he needed that security. You look at someone

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Speaker 2: But for someone like Ayuk who's still on that rookie deal,

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Speaker 2: And that's it, right.

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Speaker 3: It's tough, right, we're always from our bully pulp. It's

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Speaker 2: The diving in and finding out the forty nives are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's either that or you know, the how much

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Speaker 3: You know, we saw the Adams and Cooper Domino's fall,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way of Ari Cooper, four catcher sixty

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Speaker 2: But hey, whatever, whatever works. The situation in Seattle is

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Speaker 2: that Jackson Smith and Jigbus should wear this forever. But

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Speaker 2: By the way, we joke about brock Bauers yet fourteen targets.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. In that game against the Rams, trade Tucker had eight,

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Speaker 2: DJ Turner had seven, but Bowers ten catches ninety three yards.

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Speaker 3: He has sixty targets this year. That ties him for

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Speaker 3: fifth No. Sixth in the league with Malik Neighbors, who

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Speaker 3: by the way, missed two games, and Bowers has fifteen

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Speaker 2: Imagine if they didn't have him, like, who in the

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Speaker 3: you've got basically brock Bowers against the world. So it's

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Speaker 3: the pitch and catch time and time again. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can roll the dice ahead because no.

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Speaker 3: No, but it's just from a.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some of it, Dan, I think is just you're

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Speaker 2: seints Chargers on the board yet at the time of

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Speaker 2: this podcast. That could be one, but yeah, we've got

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Speaker 2: it's the doozy. The highest line right now is Packers

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Speaker 2: Jaguars forty nine and a half.

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Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, Yes, yes, game in Jacksonville. Finally back after

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Speaker 3: the long sojourn and the Doug Peterson I may have

436
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Speaker 3: saved my job for the rest of the year. I'll

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Speaker 3: effort the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a quick little story about a Packers

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Speaker 2: Jaguars game in Jacksonville. The Green Bay Packers were actually

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Speaker 2: the last team in the NFL to go and play

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Speaker 2: in London. And the reason a couple of reasons why,

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Speaker 2: but one of the reasons as well is they were

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Speaker 2: actually a candidate to go and play the Jaguars in London,

444
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Speaker 2: but because the Packer fans, you know, traveler, they're everywhere,

445
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Speaker 2: the Jaguars didn't want to lose that gate for the

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Speaker 2: game in Jacksonville. So yeah, so this was like, this

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Speaker 2: was a nominee, which I don't know if would would

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Speaker 2: have been you know, eight years ago when the cycle

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Speaker 2: came through, but green Bay was thought of as possibly

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Speaker 2: a candidate to go to London. But the Jaguars were

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Speaker 2: selling way more seats when the Packers were coming to

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Speaker 2: town than they were with the other teams, and they

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Speaker 2: didn't want to that. They didn't want to miss out

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Speaker 2: on that one. So that's what it took the NFL

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Speaker 2: a while. They finally did, you know, a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago against the Giants, and I can't remember they've

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Speaker 2: been back again, but yeah, green Bay was the last

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Speaker 2: team to finally go over and play in London.

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Speaker 3: Well it's why you don't see the Steelers travel right now.

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Speaker 3: The idea that they'd be one of the teams that

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Speaker 3: would immediately go to to Ireland as they expand the

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Speaker 3: global reach or whatever. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. But

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Speaker 3: same thing, all right, Packers and the Steelers the best

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Speaker 3: traveling Guess which super Bowl I had to pay for

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Speaker 3: because I made a promise. That's Dallas, Pittsburgh and Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, oh man.

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Speaker 3: At Jerry's palace. I think I'm still playing that often.

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Speaker 2: At least you had a seat in that super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: because there are people that thought they did and then

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Speaker 2: they didn't.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I paid extra for the for the privilege of

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Speaker 3: a none hastily put together seat.

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Speaker 2: If you don't know this story. So the whole thing

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Speaker 2: that Jerry wanted, Jerry Jones in the NFL wanted over

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Speaker 2: one hundred thousand people at AT and T Stadium, So

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Speaker 2: they built this temporary seating in spots where there isn't

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Speaker 2: normal seating. Obviously, because it's temporary, it did not pass code,

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Speaker 2: so they couldn't have people sit in those seats for

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Speaker 2: the game. It was crazy, like.

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Speaker 3: Did they take the seats away or was it just

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Speaker 3: empty seats?

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Speaker 2: They're just empty seats.

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Speaker 3: They just had to leave them empty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because there's nothing they could do, but that

485
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Speaker 2: was their goal to jam so many people in, and

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Speaker 2: yeah it was.

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Speaker 3: So that morning was funny. Right, I'm doing the show

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Speaker 3: with Nate and Peter at the time, and we're in Dallas.

489
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Speaker 3: I'm sitting at a desk that had three monitors, so

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Speaker 3: I'm logged into three different ticketing services, and everything that's

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Speaker 3: coming up are those hastily put together sections. Not that

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Speaker 3: I knew that was going to be a problem, Like

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Speaker 3: those are just not good seats. Like I promised my

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Speaker 3: then father in law. I'm like, hey, to take you

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Speaker 3: to this game when it's in Dallas, and you know

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Speaker 3: I was gonna make good on it. And then finally

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Speaker 3: a pair showed up, and I couldn't hit submit fast

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Speaker 3: enough and they ended up being for the same price

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Speaker 3: as these other seats. They ended up being like forty

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Speaker 3: five yard line seats in the middle of a Steelers

501
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Speaker 3: family section. So I ended up sitting with no again.

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Speaker 3: I paid a lot of money, like we're talking crazy

503
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: ass by yourself a used car kind of money for

504
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Speaker 3: a good used car at that, but it was the

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Speaker 3: I made a promise I had to keep it. But

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Speaker 3: I had done my training camp tour because when I

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Speaker 3: lived on the East Coast, I used to do the

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Speaker 3: day trips and I went to Latrobe a couple of times.

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Speaker 3: So family members that I'd met at one of those

510
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Speaker 3: practices are like, hey, you're the guy that was playing

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Speaker 3: catch with my grand kid. It's like, yeah, like this

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Speaker 3: is cool. So I got some street cred with the

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Speaker 3: then father in law. We had a great time at

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Speaker 3: Jerry's palace. May have been a little bit drung, but it.

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Speaker 2: Was fun so too. I just brought it. I brought

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Speaker 2: up the game. So this is what happened. So also

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Speaker 2: that week again second biggest star of that week because

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Speaker 2: there was an ice storm that hit down.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there lost a cameraman.

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Speaker 2: One two hundred and fifty temporary seats that weren't ready

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Speaker 2: in time because the fire Marshal couldn't inspect them. So

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Speaker 2: these fans who actually had tickets showed up in eight it'

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Speaker 2: said eight hundred and fifty fans in four sections were relocated,

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Speaker 2: but four hundred fans were given refunds of three times

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Speaker 2: their ticket of what was on the ticket for face value.

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Speaker 3: Not a bad deal. You get three times your money back.

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Speaker 2: Sure, it's just crazy though, well.

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Speaker 3: But if you had to travel there and whatever else, like,

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Speaker 3: I don't think there was ever compensation, yeah, or for

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Speaker 3: the accommodations travel, et cetera. Because with the ice storm

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Speaker 3: you had folks that were sitting long delays in airports

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Speaker 3: trying to get into Dallas.

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Speaker 2: So well, the the the plaintiffs apparently after court case

534
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah, the people who actually sued were

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Speaker 2: awarded between fifty six hundred and twenty two thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: depending on the value of those takes about that. So, yes,

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Speaker 2: that's that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I just remember day one we had I was doing

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Speaker 3: stuff for Fox sports dot com and we had this

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Speaker 3: whole itinerary and they had a cameraman assigned to me.

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Speaker 3: He slipped and was basically bedridden the rest of the weeks.

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Speaker 3: So everything that we had planned of me going to

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Speaker 3: these different honky tonks and whatever else was gone. O. Man, like,

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Speaker 3: we don't have the cameraman for you anymore. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I can shoot out my phone. I'm like, they're not

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Speaker 3: gonna do anything with your fu's damn it.

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Speaker 2: Oh by the way, thanks to Wikipedia for that that

548
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: trip down memory lane. Boom. I knew something didn't match code.

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00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: Now the ice storm and obviously remember that. But of

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Speaker 2: those getting together, Jones has had a tough couple of weeks,

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Speaker 2: so I don't want to pile on. But they were

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Speaker 2: trying to pile as many people into that stadium as

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Speaker 2: they could to set the record, So that was part

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Speaker 2: of the story. But four hundred people were not able

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Speaker 2: to find other seats. Hey, kudos to them for finding

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Speaker 2: eight hundred.

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Speaker 3: Others, right, jeez, that's a lot of people to find

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Speaker 3: seats for fold up chairs in the aisles. You're gonna

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Speaker 3: stand here with a well, you're going to sell popcorn.

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Speaker 3: You're not really selling it, but here stand here like

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Speaker 3: a vendor.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you a quick story. The first Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: I got to cover was the Seahawks Steelers in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: So super, super lucky that the team that I had

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Speaker 2: cheer for my entire life ends up making it to

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Speaker 2: their first Super Bowl and getting to go. We get

567
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Speaker 2: our game credentials, and there was some mix up or

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Speaker 2: something along the way. We only had credentials for postgame

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Speaker 2: access and you had to sit in the media room.

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Speaker 2: But the Super Bowl that year, the media room was

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Speaker 2: actually inside the stadium. Other years it's it's outside in

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Speaker 2: a different tent now because the footprint is so large,

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Speaker 2: But nineteen twenty years ago they actually were able to

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Speaker 2: put it in Ford Field, and I'm like sitting there

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, i am so close to seeing my

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Speaker 2: team play that it's literally just out in the concourse.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have a seat, couldn't get to the media seating,

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Speaker 2: so I sat behind the guys who ran the halftime

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Speaker 2: show mixer thing in the corner with the sound and

580
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: basically just looked over them stood for the entire game

581
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Speaker 2: because I didn't have a media seat. It was first level.

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00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: It was great. But yeah, that was my seating escapade

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Speaker 2: when it came to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: But always a little bit. It's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: It's a good show.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So all right there it is tripped down memory Lane.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you listening to the podcast into story Time

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Speaker 2: with Mike dam and Ian. It's what we do here

589
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Speaker 2: on I want your flex. Hit us up with your

590
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Speaker 2: own stories. We'd love to hear them. We'll read them

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Speaker 2: back on the podcast. Hit Mike up at Swollen Dome.

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Speaker 2: You can find me at dan Byer on Fox, and

593
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: you can find Ian at Ian Roddy underscore anything else

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Speaker 2: and are we good now?

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Speaker 3: I think we're good. We're ready for Week eight. Let's go, yes,

596
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 3: go win those free agent acquisition bidding wars because it's

597
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: going to be crazy guillotine leagues and everything else. It's

598
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: the wild West now.

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00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: And if you're two and five in your league, don't worry.

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Speaker 2: There's still time to make up grounds. You could turn

601
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Speaker 2: things around. So for Ian Roddy and Mike Carmen, I'm

602
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Speaker 2: Dan Bayer. Can't wait to talk to you next time.

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Speaker 2: Right here on, I want your flex