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Speaker 1: you doing good?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: You know what, it's our pleasure. At least so far,

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Speaker 1: it's our pleasure. We'll see if we still feel that

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Speaker 1: way in a little bit. But what's going on with

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Speaker 1: this guy? Tom? Why do you feel like you're being ghosted?

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Speaker 1: And we need all the backstory? How did you meet?

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Speaker 1: Tell us about any dates you've been on, and then

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I met Tom on Bumble. We've met up

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Speaker 2: once and went out for some drinks and then honestly,

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Speaker 2: I thought it all went really really well. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we connected on Bumble and the date only you know,

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Speaker 2: everything only got better. We like a lot of the

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Speaker 2: same things. We like baseball, travel, we like the same

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Speaker 3: To line up really well.

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Speaker 2: And on the date we sat there for hours and

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Speaker 2: it went really really well, at least I thought so,

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Speaker 2: has unmatched with me on bumble Wow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you I mean, if I were on this

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Speaker 1: stuff happens, like, that's all good, Like I would think

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Speaker 1: That's a conscious effort not to see you. Like this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I took it. But I have no

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's where we come in. We're gonna call

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Speaker 1: and at some point you're welcome to jump in on

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Speaker 1: day that we pay for. Sound good, here's hoping. Let's

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Speaker 1: see what's going on? Part two. I'm waiting by the

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Speaker 1: phone after gota back in three minutes. You've got to

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Speaker 1: hear this Fred's show. Maybe gott a fred show is

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Speaker 1: and make us a pre set. Hey, Ashley, okay, let's

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Speaker 1: call this guy Tom. You met on a dating app,

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Speaker 1: Some stuff goes on, you know, some adult activity when

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Speaker 2: So why yeah, I would I would love to know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great, that's the question. Let's call this guy Tom

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Speaker 1: right now. Good luck, Ashley?

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Speaker 1: Hi? Is this Tom? Yeah? Hey Tom, good morning. My

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Speaker 1: Okay. So she reached out to us, Tom, and she

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Speaker 4: Again and next time, like you can ask your doctor's

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Speaker 3: I'm allowed to say that.

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Speaker 1: She kept pertainer. Yeah, you know what, he took her retainer,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't getting that specific with him, but

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Speaker 2: I'm not here trying to make myself better, and I'm frankly,

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Speaker 1: I am not currently a dental professional, but I feel

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I.

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Speaker 1: Oh, scratch, Okay, all right, I'm going to leave that there.

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Speaker 1: Girls scratches I thought they would be with anyone might

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm like mortified because it's trying to like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think I think we can

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Speaker 1: This is a new one. I don't know that we've

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Speaker 1: we've heard about We've heard about people taking their retainer

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Speaker 1: discreet and it's gross, but we've not heard this one.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to try again? Tom? Maybe she can

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Speaker 1: consult her physician beforehand and then or her doctor and

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Speaker 1: then we can you know, get to get rid of

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Speaker 4: No, I'm going to have to say no on that one.

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Speaker 4: This is no dog yeah, too too dogmatic about following doctor's.

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Speaker 6: Orders, you know, but the one time was okay, yeah,

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Speaker 6: nobody you know, well while we're here, but hey, he congratulations,

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Speaker 6: you see you and your straight teeth, and I hey,

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Speaker 6: there are probably a lot of dentists and orthodonyis listing

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Speaker 6: now going uh wait, wait to go on the compliance,

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Speaker 6: you know, because it's I'm sure it's hard to get

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Speaker 6: people to really wear them the way that you.

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Speaker 1: You're very serious about this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, you know, you're right, and maybe

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Speaker 2: I can get one of them and go on a

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Speaker 2: nicer date and Tom can have fun with his girls

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Speaker 2: with bad teeth.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay take that, yeah bad crooked teeth lady, are

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Speaker 1: you going out? Okay, I don't mind.

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Speaker 3: I don't mind a little crooked teeth. Honestly.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's great.

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Speaker 3: It's worth there's worth traits to have, you know what I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, Like you know, toyl there are You're right, but hey,

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Speaker 1: good luck to both of you. Thank you for your time.

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Speaker 1: I'm thank