1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: And you're here. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost Day 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: and the unexplained ends here. They invite you to enjoy 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: all our shows we have on this network, and right now, 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: to Coast, AM employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: Hi. 14 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 15 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after 16 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: day up. On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: now know that our loved ones have survived physical doubt 18 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: and so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: This episode will first air as we move into the 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: holiday season, a time when so many of us are 21 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: thinking about our loved ones. We're experiencing grief. As we know, holidays, 22 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: along with very special occasions, bring up our deepest questions 23 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: about what happens when we die, are our loved ones 24 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 3: still with us? And about faith? And speaking about faith. 25 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: It's a topic I don't get into much, as I 26 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: respect all listeners belief, But the question is do all 27 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: religions point to the same truth. Why do some people 28 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: who have a near death experience come back telling a 29 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: story of the universal loving Light, while others come back 30 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: with just as much conviction, telling us they met Jesus. 31 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: So does our faith determine what or who we see? 32 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: Or does what we see determine our faith? Also, I 33 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: get asked a lot if it's okay to investigate the 34 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: afterlife or if it goes against the Bible. I know 35 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: that's a big, heavy question, but we'll address it today. 36 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: We'll also dip into the question of miracles, beginning with 37 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: our first story. I want to share some words with 38 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: you from Robert Marshall, a man who died whose doctors 39 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: saw proof he was brain dead, yet he returned with 40 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 3: an impossible miracle. 41 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: My name's Robert Marshall. On May nineteenth, twenty twenty four, 42 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: I was taken to the hospital. I was having trouble 43 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: breathing and I had a very very large mass on 44 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: my neck that they thought was cancer and it was 45 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: pushing on my airwaves and caused me to have difficult 46 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: breathing and swallowing. So when I got to the emergency room, 47 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: in an oral intubation tube down my throat and sedated 48 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: me and put me in the intensive care unit. Immediately. 49 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: I was in the intensive care unit getting oxygen through 50 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: that from the seventeenth of May until the nineteenth of May. 51 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: And on the nineteenth of May, the doctor came in 52 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: and everything looked good. The oxygen levels were great in 53 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: my blood and everything, and they decided that they would 54 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: take the oral intubation tube out and see how I 55 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: would do without that. They looked at all the charts. 56 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: They took it out, and I was breathing fine. Everything 57 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: was great. I was getting good oxygen levels and I 58 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: could swallow. So the doctor was very happy and my 59 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: wife was very happy. They went out of the room 60 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: and when they did, they were gone for about thirty 61 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: five or forty minutes. During that thirty five to forty minutes, 62 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: what happened was that mass rolled over on my airwaves 63 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: and cut off all oxygen and I suffocated to death. 64 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: My heart stopped, I had no oxygen coming in, and 65 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: I was dead. My wife walked into the room, saw 66 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: me laying there, blue, not breathing, no heart, nothing, and 67 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: ran out and told the doctors very quickly, he's blue, 68 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: he's blue, Come quickly, come quickly. Well. The doctor ran in, 69 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: saw that I had died suffocated. They hit the code 70 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: blue button and every doctor in the place came in. 71 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: At that point. They gave me CPR trying to get 72 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: my heart started, but it took him fifteen minutes to 73 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: get my heart started, and during that fifteen minutes I 74 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: was getting no oxygen, absolutely zero. What they did not 75 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: know was during that fifteen minutes that I was dead. 76 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: At that point I went to heaven. What I had 77 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: was not an NDE, that's a near death experience. I 78 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: actually ended up dying because of black oxygen. For ninety minutes, 79 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: I was brain dead. There was no chance of recovery. 80 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: When they did an MRI of my brain to verify 81 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: and confirm that I was brain dead, they took a 82 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 1: picture from the top down and there was no brain 83 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: matter left. It had eaten itself up because of no oxygen. 84 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: There was nothing in there. My skull was all deformed. 85 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: I could see that I had no brain in there whatsoever. 86 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: It was already gone. My heart was being eaten away, 87 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: my liver, my kidneys. And that's what happened to a 88 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: person when they die, how you puff up. That happened 89 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: to me. I was dead. They had me on machines 90 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: to pump my heart, but I was still dead because 91 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: I had no brain. And they wanted to take me off, 92 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: but they could not because we have was called a 93 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: living will, and that means that if they put me 94 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: on any life support machine, even though I may be dead, 95 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: they cannot take me off for fourteen days unless my 96 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: wife would have agreed said yes, she would not allow it. 97 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: She did not. She just stayed there and prayed and cried. 98 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: I laid there dead. I was dead for three days 99 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: on the twenty third of May. Remember I died on 100 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: the nineteenth of May. On the twenty third of May, 101 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: they had gone to her every day to try and 102 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: tell her there is no hope. He is not coming back, 103 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: and she needed to end life support and to bury me. 104 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: She wouldn't do it, and every day they tried on 105 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: the twenty third of May. She was just about convinced, 106 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: and she had her full fingers in my hand, and 107 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: as she said that, I squeezed her fingers and she 108 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: squeezed mine back. I squeezed hers again, and she squeezed mine. 109 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: And she told the doctor he just squeezed my fingers. 110 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: And he said, there's no way that he squeezed your fingers. 111 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: He's dead, he has no brain. He said, I will 112 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: come back. I will lower all sedation and restraints and everything, 113 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: and I will come back on a couple of hours 114 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: and I will show you. He came back and he 115 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: got up next to me and he told me in 116 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: my ear. He screamed in my ear that he was 117 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: my doctor. If I could hear him to move my arms, 118 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: to lift my arm. Well, he knew I was not 119 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: going to lift my arms because I was dead and 120 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: I had no brain. It was an impossibility. What he 121 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: did not know is well, I was in heaven, and 122 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: I was in heaven for forty four hours. Jesus and 123 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: I walked hand in hand, and he taught me about heaven, 124 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: the Bible, any questions that we could ever think of, creation, everything, 125 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: and he told me that he would send me back. 126 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: The doctors thought I was dead. They did not know 127 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: it's going to have so when that doctor told me, 128 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Jesus sent me back on the twenty third of May, 129 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: and he told me, I will send you back as 130 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: if you had never died, that there would be nothing 131 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: wrong with you. I will give you a new brain, 132 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: a new heart, new liver, kidneys, All my organs will 133 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: be rand new. I do not even have the same 134 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: type blood I used to have Type A. I now 135 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: have Type O, he says. And I will send you back. 136 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: Nobody will ever be able to question that it was 137 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: a miracle and that he did it, because there is 138 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: no other explanation, he says. And when I send you back, 139 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: you will be perfect. I will give you a complete 140 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: memory of your entire life. I will give you a 141 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: complete memory of everything I taught you in heaven. And 142 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: he would command me to do as I've said before. 143 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: He commanded me that I would share with anybody, anywhere, anytime, 144 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: the miracle that he did, so they understand what I 145 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: tell them is from him. And I would share all 146 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: information that he taught me, everything I experienced in heaven 147 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: about him, about the Bible. When the world was created 148 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: when time began. Everything. You will answer any questions that 149 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: they have anytime, anywhere, any place that I put in 150 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: front of you. He sent me back. It is an 151 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: absolute miracle. I have a new brain through heart. There's 152 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing wrong with me, nothing, absolutely nothing. They had 153 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: cut a hole in my neck where they had to 154 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: trade the outomy put down there. They had the hole 155 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: and they took the bandage off. It had healed instantly 156 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: overnight and no scar. And obviously I can talk, I walk, 157 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: I still play golf, but I go around the country 158 00:09:54,840 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: here talking to people, churches, schools, football stadiums, doing Jesus 159 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: makes sense, crusade. He has me writing music, songs and stuff. 160 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: It is amazing things that I had never done before. 161 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: And it's all for him to get his message a 162 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: love out. When I first got there, when I was 163 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: in heaven, I saw my dad who had died when 164 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: he was ninety two. He had died in twenty eleven 165 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: from cancer and eating them away. And when I saw him, 166 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: he wasn't ninety two. He was here to be about 167 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: thirty five or thirty eight years old and in perfect health. 168 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: And I went up and I talked to him a 169 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: little bit and we had conversations. Now everything that I'm 170 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: telling you, I did write a book was forty four 171 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: hours in Heaven is the name of the book. But 172 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: in that book I explained what I did in talking 173 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: with him. Also, when I was in heaven, I was 174 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: at a fence and we had two horses and three 175 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: little dogs, and they came were craunning up across the 176 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: field to me, and they recognized me. So our pants 177 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: are in heaven. The horses and the little dogs came up. 178 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: I knew them and they knew me. There was one 179 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: little dog that I did not know. I found out 180 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: later that was a little dog that my wife had 181 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: before I had even met her. The other thing in 182 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: heaven is is that you can communicate with your animals. 183 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: It's not like I'm talking to you, but there's a communication. 184 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: You'll know what they're thinking, and they will know what 185 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: you're thinking, and they're they're waiting for you. God gave 186 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: us our animals and our pets, and we love them. 187 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: They become part of our family, and he would never 188 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: take that away from us. The other thing then was 189 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: when I first stood in there. The beauty of it 190 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: is just unbelievable. When you first step into heaven, your 191 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: mouth drops open. The trees are just magnificent. In my backyard, 192 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: I have forty three oak trees. Compared to the trees 193 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: in heaven, my little trees are like a twig. The 194 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: trees are so beautiful and perfect. And the colors, there's 195 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: colors that we don't even know, we can't even see. 196 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: They're just beautiful. And the plants all beautiful, absolutely magnificent perfect. 197 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: The other thing about the trees and the plants and 198 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: all the flowers is they give off what is called 199 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: a little melodic hum, and each one has its own 200 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: individual hum, and they all combine together, the plants and 201 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: the trees and all flowers. They're hums, all combined together 202 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: and make a beautiful, praising melody all day long that 203 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: praises Jesus. In addition to that, they all give off 204 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: a little scent, and they combine and make a beautiful 205 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: aroma fragrance that is just the most wonderful smell that 206 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: you could ever imagine. 207 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: Let's take a quick break here and we'll be right 208 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: back with more of Robert's story. You're listening to Shades 209 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 3: of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 210 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: am Heroinormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. 211 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. You're hearing the near death experience from 212 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 3: Robert Marshall. He described his miracle healing, seeing his dad, 213 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 3: his animals on the other side, meeting Jesus, describing the landscape. 214 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: Let's discover what else he experienced. 215 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: Also, there's no sun in the sky like that's here. 216 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: There's no night, but the light comes from Jesus. It 217 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: says that he's the light that is literal. His light 218 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: lights up all of heaven and it engulfs everything in everybody, 219 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: and in his light is his love, and his love 220 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: permeates everybody and everything. The moment you step foot into heaven, 221 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: you just feel so warm and loving. You feel like 222 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: the biggest hug that you ever had, the most loving 223 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: feelings you'll ever have, and that is all throughout heaven. 224 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: Heaven is beautiful. Everybody's home. Some people call it a mansion. 225 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: It's a house, it's a home. Everybody has a different 226 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: idea of a mansion. A mansion is not a big 227 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: building that's all gaudy with thirty rooms. That's not a mansion. 228 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: A mansion is what is your most perfect, pleasing idea 229 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: of a home to live in. He fulfills your heart's 230 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: desire everything. There is no sickness, there is no death, 231 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: Nobody stee four, nobody has mental illnesses. Everybody is restored 232 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: to their perfect tale. You will see the perfect warm 233 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: of you, and everybody loves everybody, and you're connected to everything. 234 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: And Jesus, you couldn't even begin to describe him. When 235 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: you look in his eyes, it's just fear love. When 236 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: I first walked up in front of Jesus, I fell 237 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: to the ground, based down. I couldn't stand. I cried, 238 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: I weeped, and it wasn't tears of sorrow. It was 239 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: tears of joy and humility. I was standing in front 240 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: of God at that point. It was laying in front 241 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: of God. But he reached them and he grabbed my hand. 242 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: He said stand and he helped me up. He said 243 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: it will be okay. We have much to walk and 244 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: talk about. You have much to learn. And that's when 245 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: we walked for forty three hours and twenty eight minutes 246 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: without stopping. Will you talk? We walked, showed me where 247 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: I was going to live. We talked about everything in 248 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: heaven and everything he wanted me to know that he 249 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: wanted me to share and answer anybody's questions. Heaven was 250 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: the most incredible experience that I could ever imagine. Do 251 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: you have any loved ones that have passed? Do you 252 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: still feel love for them and you worry, you wonder 253 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: and you care about them. That's the love that he's 254 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: talking about that will transcend and connect you to that person. 255 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: And he says, when you feel that here, like you 256 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: feel that for a loved one that has passed, what 257 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: that tells you is this, that love that you feel 258 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: in your heart transcends into heaven and still is connected 259 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: to that person. And that tells you that because you 260 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: feel that love, that they are in heaven with him 261 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: and they're comfortable and they're happy. He said, Also, it 262 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: tells you that your heart is correct that if you 263 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: truly do leave in love and it's Jesus's love that's 264 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: living in you, because that's the only love that will 265 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: transcend death and go into heaven. So it tells you 266 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: that your loved ones that have passed are in heaven, 267 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: and it also tells you that you truly have the 268 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: right love in your heart. But also you have to 269 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: understand Jesus told him. Now when you can't take care 270 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: of them or comfort them, this is what he tells 271 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: them when they get dampened. He says, I send my comforter, 272 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: and I will go down and I will comfort your 273 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: loved ones for you. I will make sure that they 274 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: know you are here because I will rekindle that love. 275 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: I will keep that love alive. I will give them 276 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: remembrances of fallen things that you did together, things that 277 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: you enjoyed. It may be a smell that you smell 278 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: that reminds you of that person, a loved one. It 279 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: may be a butter fly flying across or a bird 280 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: that's my way of letting them know that you are 281 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: in my arms. It may be a dream, it may 282 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: be a vision. But I do that because I love them. 283 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: I love you. So you see, if you feel that love, 284 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: your heart is right, and you know that your buplins 285 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: aren't happy, They're happy. They have no more cares, no 286 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: more worries, no more pain or suffering. 287 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 3: Now, Robert, as a Christian, saw Jesus, as do many 288 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: people in near death experiences. But I want to pivot 289 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 3: to a different story. With a different miracle. I have 290 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: the pleasure of hearing directly from a man named Alex Hermasio, 291 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: who passed a few years back. Alex was raised Catholic, 292 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 3: and his NDE began with a sudden, near fatal internal bleed. 293 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 3: He said, I remember that I was laying on this 294 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: bed and all these doctors and nurses were around me, 295 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 3: doing the very best they could to save my life. 296 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: And then this overwhelming peace came into me, and then 297 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: after that a beautiful golden mist, and everything dissipated. All 298 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 3: the doctors, nurses, the emergency room, everything was gone, he said. Suddenly, 299 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 3: waves and waves of shame, fear, grief, heartache, depression, all 300 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: of my pain that I experienced on earth was being 301 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 3: pulled out of me until there was nothing left except 302 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: pure joy. And it was phenomenal. So Alex entered the light, 303 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 3: place he knew was the presence of God. And it's 304 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 3: here inside this light that Alex had the vision that 305 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: for me, is a perfect example of what I call 306 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: many lamps one light. You think of all the religions 307 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 3: in the world, what if lamps represented these religions, but 308 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: there is only truly one light. Back to Alex, he 309 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 3: began to look around. He realized that the light reflected 310 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 3: who they were here on earth. It wasn't about what 311 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 3: you believed. It was more about how you loved, how 312 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 3: you forgave, And in this place of pure light, Alex 313 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 3: saw those who had truly mastered this and that they 314 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 3: shared the same space. Alex told me, I saw great 315 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: beams of light, and they had so much light, I 316 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 3: actually had to put my hands over my eyes, and 317 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: I realized that these were the Martin Luther Kings, the 318 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: Mother Teresa's, the Gandhis, the Buddhists, the Mother Mary's, and 319 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 3: the Jesuses of the world. Alex didn't see one religion 320 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 3: as the winner. He saw all these great enlightened souls 321 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: from different traditions, different faiths, different paths, together existing as 322 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 3: one great beam of light. Jesus, Buddha, Mother Teresa, Gandhi, 323 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 3: all part of that same divine, loving truth. He too 324 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 3: woke up completely changed with new healing abilities that created 325 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: miracles in the lives of others, just as Robert Marshall did. 326 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 3: So now we have Alex who saw a universal heaven 327 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 3: where all great souls are great beams of light, and 328 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 3: Robert who saw a Christian heaven and who is told 329 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: there is only one true path. Both men were given 330 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 3: impossible miracles as proof. How can both of these equally 331 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 3: miraculous and evidential experiences be true? This brings us to 332 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: the central question does where we live and what we 333 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 3: believe impact what we experience in our near death experience? 334 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: The common components of the nd the overwhelming piece, the 335 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: tunnel leaving the body, and the encounter with a brilliant 336 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 3: being of light. These are versal experiences, but the moment 337 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 3: the consciousness tries to identify the being, it reaches for 338 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: the most profound symbol available to it. The research confirms this. 339 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 3: Doctor Steve Miller, an author and researcher, was surprised by 340 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: the number of near death experience accounts that specifically mentioned 341 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: Jesus in a large database. On the surface, this data 342 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 3: seems to strongly support Robert's experience, suggesting a Christian message 343 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: when we go to the afterlife. However, we must look 344 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: closer at where the data comes from. You see, the 345 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 3: vast majority of publicly reported and academically studied NDEs come 346 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: from North America and Western Europe. This is almost certainly 347 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 3: not because NDEs happen more often there, but because of 348 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 3: a reporting bias, the database is are overwhelmingly built from 349 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 3: English language websites based in the United States and regions 350 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 3: that pioneered nd research and have a media infrastructure that 351 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 3: encourages English speaking people to share their stories. To get 352 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 3: a clearer view, we have to look globally. The research 353 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 3: across the globe shows that the content and interpretation of 354 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 3: a near death experience are profoundly shaped by a person's 355 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 3: cultural and religious background. The core phenomena, the light and 356 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: the love, is universal, but the identity of the being 357 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: changes dramatically. In Europe and the Americas, that being of 358 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: light is frequently identified as Jesus or God. But in India, 359 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: researchers have documented NDEs where people report meeting Hindu deities 360 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 3: like yam Raj, the god of Death, whose review their 361 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: life's records. In Thailand, where Buddhism is dominant, people report 362 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: NDEs where they see Buddha or other figures from the 363 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 3: Buddhist tradition. For people who are atheist or agnostic, they 364 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: often report with a pure, unconditional love. They just call 365 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: it the source or the core, the brain and trying 366 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: to make sense of something so profound and beyond words, 367 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 3: seems to grab onto the most powerful symbols, figures, and 368 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: beliefs available to it. So for a person in the 369 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: US or Europe, that symbol is often Jesus. When we 370 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 3: look at reincarnation evidence, guess where most of the verifiable 371 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: reincarnation cases come from. Not in the United States or 372 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 3: in Europe. They come from South and Southeast Asia, in 373 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 3: countries like India, Sri Lanka, and Thailand. This is because 374 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 3: reincarnation is a foundational pillar of their major religions. As 375 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: as an afterlife investigator, I believe we live in an 376 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 3: intelligent universe. One religion and one symbol won't work for 377 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 3: all people. This light is everywhere and it speaks in 378 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: different ways in all languages. When we come back from 379 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: the break, we'll take a look to one of the 380 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: biggest questions I get asked, is my investigation into the 381 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 3: afterlife a sin? Is it going against the Bible? I 382 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 3: have good news for you on that. We'll be right back. 383 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio 384 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 3: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back 385 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 3: to Shades of the afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. You've heard 386 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: the stories of Robert and Alex, both medical miracles. One 387 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 3: saw Jesus, the other one saw Jesus, Buddha, Gandhi and 388 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 3: others as all great beams of light. So in my heart, 389 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 3: I believe our experience is shaped by unconditional love, but 390 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: the language used to describe it is shaped by our culture, 391 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 3: our faith, and our beliefs. To fully grasp how deeply 392 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 3: our human minds and beliefs dictate what we see in 393 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: the afterlife, I want to share one distressing or hellish 394 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 3: near death experience. Kathy McDaniel shared with me her story 395 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 3: and how her belief and identity she believes are still 396 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 3: attached to the soul, especially when the body is in crisis. 397 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety nine, Kathy was deathly ill with acute 398 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 3: respiratory distress syndrome similar to COVID. Doctors placed her on 399 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 3: a ventilator and into a drug induced coma. The last 400 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: thing she was told in her coma was that her 401 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 3: brain would be offline and she wouldn't remember anything, but 402 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 3: she did wake up somewhere else. Her experience started with 403 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: a pitch black silence and then a reddish glow, followed 404 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 3: by a terrifying voice that said, do you know where 405 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: you are? Her mind raised, and the only word she 406 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 3: could come up with was hell. She found herself in 407 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 3: segments of torment, a bombed out city where people were 408 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 3: screaming and running, even an attack by zombie like figures. Now, Kathy, 409 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 3: who was raised Catholic, felt like she belonged in purgatory, 410 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 3: that place like hell, but where you eventually get out of, 411 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 3: which was a concept pounded into her since childhood. She 412 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 3: now believes she created her own hell in those segments, 413 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: and her belief, she says, dictated her landscape. This is 414 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 3: a critical point that researchers are exploring. The context of 415 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 3: a distressing ND can shape the experience. Researchers suggest that 416 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: when a person is in a drug induced coma with 417 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 3: their body under immense physical stress, the initial part of 418 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: the ND can be an interpretation of that physical trauma 419 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: and not a spiritual one. It feels like a hellish place, 420 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 3: but it's rather the soul's difficult journey through the body's 421 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 3: crisis to get to the other side, where there is peace. 422 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: This resonates with a high percentage of recovering Catholics who 423 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 3: report their distressing experiences often struggling against years of ingrained 424 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 3: fear of punishment from God. But here's where Kathy's story 425 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 3: becomes a great lesson in hope, the light that always 426 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: breaks through. Exhausted, cold and angry, Kathy suddenly thought of 427 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: something that would truly annoy the demon speaking inside of 428 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 3: her brain. She began singing a Christmas carol. When she 429 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 3: reached the line, no crib for his bed, the demon 430 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: screamed and Kathy closed her eyes. Then the lights came up. 431 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 3: This is the joy, this is the bliss, this is 432 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: the love. This is something I've never experienced, and I 433 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: just wanted to stay there, she said. And then out 434 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: of the fog she saw her best friend, who had 435 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 3: just died from leukemia. He looked great, younger, happier, and 436 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 3: in perfect health. She realized she was dead and it 437 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: was the greatest news ever because she loved this man 438 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 3: and she got to be with him. However, of course 439 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: she came back. Cathy's final message from that experience was 440 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: given to her by the voice she heard to be loving, kind, forgiving, encouraging, grateful, 441 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 3: non judgmental, and useful. This is the same core universal 442 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 3: truth we see in all NDEs, no matter what people experience. 443 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 3: The experience perfectly illustrates that while NDEs differ greatly, because 444 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: our beliefs and human minds are still attached, we must 445 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 3: look for the core truths that go through most of them. 446 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 3: As we earlier established, the English language near death experience 447 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 3: archives create a bias towards Jesus' experiences. The intelligence of 448 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: the universe dictates a global language of love, not a 449 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 3: localized one. So let's look at how some belief systems 450 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: completely change the structure of the journey. In India, the 451 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 3: ND often has people encountered Yamraj, the god of death, 452 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: and Chitragupa, the record keeper looking through a massive ledger, 453 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: often sending the person back due to a clerical error. 454 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: This reflects the cultural belief in cosmic records and karmak accounting. 455 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: In Thailand, the ND is framed by the doctrine of 456 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 3: karma and the realms of rebirth. The person is often 457 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 3: given a frightening tour of different hells realms where souls 458 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 3: are punished for specific sins. The person is sent back 459 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 3: with a message to make merit, a stark, powerful warning 460 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: perfectly aligned with a Buddhist tradition among the Congo people 461 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 3: in Central Africa. NDEs are less about individual judgment and 462 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 3: more about community and utility, and is met by deceased 463 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 3: ancestors who transfer a practical gift or task, like the 464 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: instructions for making a healing medicine. And even in cases 465 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 3: with no religious figure, such as the famous case of 466 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 3: Melon Thomas Benedict, who had terminal brain cancer, he described 467 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 3: his experience not as meeting a person, but merging with 468 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,239 Speaker 3: a river of life, or the source he called it. 469 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 3: He said that the light communicated to him that all 470 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 3: religions were just different paths to the same source. The 471 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 3: light respects the receiver's language and culture. How intelligent is that? 472 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 3: For me, as a skeptic turned investigator, the most compelling 473 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: proof of the afterlife has nothing to do with religious 474 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: figures at all. It has to do with verifiable facts, 475 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 3: the pieces of evidence that are undeniable regardless of your beliefs. 476 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 3: These are called verritical experiences, stories that prove consciousness or 477 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 3: the soul is separate from the brain. Stories we've heard 478 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 3: many times on shades of the afterlife before, like the 479 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 3: woman who had a near death experience during surgery who 480 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 3: described a single red shoe on the roof of a 481 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: distant part of the hospital, a fact later verified by 482 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 3: a staff member. There's the dentures in the drawer. The 483 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 3: old man who died on an operating table, who saw 484 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 3: where the nurse put the dentures, and when he woke 485 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 3: up and no one could find them, he was able 486 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 3: to tell precisely what drawer in what cabinet they were in. 487 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 3: Plus the blind who can see. The most staggering evidence 488 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 3: comes from research on the near death experiences of people 489 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: who were blind from birth. They were able to see 490 00:33:54,840 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 3: and accurately describe colors, medical instruments, and staff clothing while 491 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 3: their brains were completely shut down. One man size doctor 492 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: wearing two different colored socks, a fact that was later verified. 493 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 3: In my opinion, these verified NDEs show us that our mind, 494 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 3: our consciousness, lives on after death. Let's move on to 495 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 3: that big question I get all the time, Sandra. I 496 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 3: love your podcast, but I'm a Christian and I'm worried 497 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 3: about being interested in mediumship or the afterlife. Does it 498 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 3: go against the Bible? Is it a sin? This concern, 499 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 3: my friends, is rooted in the old Testament, which forbids 500 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: something called necromancy. When we look at the Old Testament, 501 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 3: there are rules that are no longer in effect in 502 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 3: our day and age. For instance, you'll find there's a 503 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 3: rule about not mixing fabrics like weaving wool and linen together, 504 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 3: eating shellfish like shrimp and lobster. Also, the Bible spends 505 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 3: lots of time detailing the correct regulation of slavery, certainly 506 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 3: which shouldn't be happening in this day and age. So 507 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 3: the Bible was written with historical cultural laws for a 508 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: specific people at a specific time, to set them apart 509 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,280 Speaker 3: from neighboring pagan cultures. The condemnation of slavery, for instance, 510 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 3: is rightly seen as an eternal truth, while the rules 511 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 3: regulating it are products of the culture of the time. 512 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 3: We cannot pick and choose one single verse from the 513 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 3: Bible and call it case closed without looking at the 514 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 3: context of when the book was written and for what people. 515 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 3: The concern back then was often about people trying to 516 00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 3: gain power, tell the future, or worship ancestors instead of 517 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 3: God and the Church as we know wanted power. But 518 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 3: is that what we're talking about today or are we 519 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 3: talking about seeking comfort healing and reassurance, so the intent 520 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 3: is completely different. This brings us to Jesus. His entire 521 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 3: ministry is about moving away from the old rigid laws 522 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 3: and focusing on a new internal law. You know what 523 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 3: that is one word love. The New Testament provides the 524 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 3: framework to accept the afterlife. Jesus's resurrection is the ultimate 525 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 3: afterlife event, spirit communicating with the living. The Transfiguration shows 526 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 3: Jesus talking with Moses and Elijah, two men who had 527 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 3: been dead for centuries. This, by any definition, is a 528 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 3: form of spirit communication presented as a holy and divine event. 529 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 3: When someone points to a three thousand year old verse 530 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 3: from Leviticus about necromancy and wonders is it okay to 531 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 3: talk to our deceased loved ones? I say yes in 532 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 3: my heart and in my journey. I believe the core 533 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 3: message of the Bible is love, mercy, forgiveness, and compassion, 534 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 3: and that light is there for all of us. When 535 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 3: we come back from the break, we'll talk a little 536 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 3: bit more about these universal messages. We'll talk about miracles 537 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 3: and what I've been passionate about studying lately. You're listening 538 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 3: to shades of the afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast 539 00:37:41,920 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 3: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades 540 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 3: of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. We have been exploring 541 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 3: some extraordinary evidence that seems to challenge our understanding of 542 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 3: faith and death. We've armed ourselves with some non religious, 543 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 3: verifiable proof that our consciousness survives and resolved the biblical conflict. 544 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 3: It is okay to talk to those in the afterlife, 545 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 3: even if we do believe in the Bible. But this 546 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 3: leaves us with a big question. How can alex universal 547 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 3: all paths are welcome to heaven and Robert's specific Jesus 548 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 3: is the only way message both be real? Is one 549 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 3: person right and one wrong? I don't believe so. I 550 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 3: believe the answer is not found in the difference in 551 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 3: their stories. But what is the same? Every single miracle, 552 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 3: every verifiable fact, and every account of the divine points 553 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 3: to a unified, intelligent and loving source. In this final segment, 554 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 3: together we will reveal the single universal law that connects 555 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 3: them all. I want to tell you, though, about my 556 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 3: personal expedition lately, and it's wrestling with history. 557 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: You know. 558 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 3: I give you the best I can as far as 559 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 3: evidence goes about the afterlife. But I've been wrestling with 560 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 3: my spiritual beliefs. I've always called myself spiritual but not religious. 561 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 3: I was raised Catholic, and I went through almost every 562 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 3: year of education in Catholic school, but never felt like 563 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 3: I had that core of faith. Like I told you before, 564 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 3: religions are like lamps. There are many of them, but 565 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 3: there is only one true light, or one true God. 566 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 3: So that's how I live life. And we may call 567 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 3: that light by the different name God or the universe 568 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 3: or whatever, but it flows through all of us. Next year, 569 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 3: I am going to turn sixty. Hard to believe, and 570 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 3: so much has been on television lately about God, Jesus, 571 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 3: and Christianity. I started asking myself, am I missing something? 572 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 3: Is there more to Jesus's teachings that I don't realize? 573 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 3: So I have been on a pretty passionate quest to 574 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 3: figure out what Jesus's core teachings were, How do they 575 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 3: relate to other religions, How did this one man's word 576 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 3: survive two thousand years to be remembered today. I've read 577 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 3: books like Misquoting Jesus, the story behind who changed the 578 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 3: Bible and Why? In another book, Jesus before the Gospels, 579 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 3: how the earliest Christians remembered, changed and invented their stories 580 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 3: of the Savior. I've also just recently Binge watched all 581 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 3: five seasons of the TV show That Chosen and here 582 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 3: are some of the truths that I'm wrestling with. Jesus 583 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 3: and his disciples spoke the landlanguage Aramaic, yet the earliest 584 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 3: records of the Bible, in the Gospels themselves, were written 585 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 3: in Greek. And did you know that the Gospels weren't 586 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 3: written until decades after Jesus died fifty two, one hundred 587 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 3: years later. And the most shocking part for me is 588 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 3: I always thought it was Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, 589 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 3: the apostles of Jesus, that wrote their stories. But the 590 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 3: scholars suggest that the apostles themselves probably didn't know how 591 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 3: to read or write, meaning the texts from the New 592 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 3: Testament were built from decades of oral traditions. Now I 593 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 3: have a faulty memory, and I can't even remember what 594 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 3: I had for lunch yesterday, So to try to remember 595 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 3: accurately what someone said fifty years ago, it boggles my mind. 596 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 3: But I've learned that in ancient Jewish culture, they had 597 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 3: a brilliant way of preserving sayings through rhythmic, repeatable forms, 598 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 3: much like how you and I might remember a nursery rhyme. 599 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 3: So that's how they remembered Jesus's teachings. Through my historical investigation, 600 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 3: I've come to realize that Jesus's court teachings are incredibly 601 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 3: close to the core truths of other spiritual paths, the 602 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 3: universal need for love, forgiveness, and service to others. So 603 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 3: if the words alone weren't enough, what made Jesus be 604 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,479 Speaker 3: so remembered and followed by billions of people even two 605 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 3: thousand years later? I have a sneaky suspicion it must 606 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 3: be the combination of his words and the miracles he performed. 607 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 3: Let me share with you one modern story that embodies this. 608 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 3: I'm talking about doctor Joshua Brown. Doctor Brown is a 609 00:42:54,800 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 3: professor of psychological and brain studies at Indiana University. He's 610 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 3: a neuroscientist. His job is to study the brain using 611 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 3: imaging and computational models. He is a man who has 612 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 3: dedicated his entire life to logic data and the material brain. 613 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 3: So his story starts in two thousand and three, when 614 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 3: he was just thirty years old at the peak of 615 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 3: his academic career when he was diagnosed with an inoperable glioma, 616 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 3: which is a cancerous tumor. As a neuroscientist, he didn't 617 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 3: need a doctor to explain the prognosis. He knew his 618 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,240 Speaker 3: chances of survival were almost zero. He and his wife 619 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 3: sought out healing prayer, which was a new world for him. 620 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 3: His journey was an instant. He began witnessing things he 621 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 3: couldn't scientifically explain, like a blind man in Cuba, instantly 622 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 3: regaining his sight after prayer. After months on his journey 623 00:43:54,520 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 3: and over fifty thousand miles traveled looking for healing and 624 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 3: participating in prayer and the healing of others, he went 625 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 3: back for a new MRI. His doctors were stunned. His 626 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 3: tumor was gone. He has been symptom free for nearly 627 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 3: twenty years. Doctor Brown didn't quietly return to his old job. 628 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 3: His miracle became his new mission. He co founded the 629 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 3: Global Medical Research Institute, whose entire purpose is to apply 630 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 3: rigorous scientific methods documenting and investigating cases of healing prayer. 631 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 3: His story is the focus of the first episode of 632 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 3: the new series Miracle on the Angel network. So this 633 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 3: makes me think about something much bigger. Why exactly did 634 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 3: Jesus's words endure I personally believe it's for the very 635 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 3: same reason that doctor Brown's life was changed. I've witnessed 636 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 3: miracles in my life, including my dad's case answered disappearing 637 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 3: thirty years before he died, and I think miracles are real. 638 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 3: Jesus's teachings were definitely powerful, but when they're combined with 639 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 3: what people witnessed, they couldn't help but believe and share 640 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 3: his words. When people saw the blind people being able 641 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,359 Speaker 3: to see again and the lame walk, his words were 642 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 3: no longer just good ideas. They were proof that his 643 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:31,280 Speaker 3: message was backed by a divine power. Furthermore, his ultimate miracle, 644 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 3: the resurrection, is closely mirrored by what many people have 645 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:41,959 Speaker 3: witnessed in verifiable physical mediumship phenomena. Most of the best 646 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 3: verifiable evidence was back in the late eighteen hundreds and 647 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 3: early nineteen hundreds, but it provides the historical proof that 648 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 3: consciousness can transcend the laws of physics. So what do 649 00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 3: you call it? The Light God, Jesus? This power, I 650 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,919 Speaker 3: believe is active in the world and is active within 651 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 3: each one of us. A few episodes ago. We heard 652 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 3: about doctor Bruce Grayson, one of the founders of the 653 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 3: International Association for Near Death Studies, and his research confirms 654 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 3: that the after effects of near death experiences are identical 655 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,760 Speaker 3: regardless of who the person saw. Whether it was Jesus, 656 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,879 Speaker 3: a light, Buddha, a monk, doesn't matter. People who had 657 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 3: a blissful near death experience come back profoundly changed. These 658 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 3: after effects include a profound lasting, decreased interest in status, 659 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 3: symbols and material possessions, a universal disposition to love unconditionally, 660 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:55,919 Speaker 3: a dramatic heightened empathy for all living things, and an 661 00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 3: almost total reduced fear of death. So the message is 662 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 3: the same. The fruits of the NDE are love, compassion, forgiveness, 663 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 3: a loss of attachment to material things, and are the 664 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 3: exact same message as the core original teachings of all 665 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 3: the world's great spiritual masters. The nd evidence provides the 666 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 3: clearest answer to what we should be doing now. No 667 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 3: matter what you believe religion wise, the path to a 668 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 3: meaningful life and a brilliant afterlife could be found in 669 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 3: just three universal actions. One radical forgiveness, recognizing that releasing 670 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 3: judgment against others, including yourself, is the only way to 671 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 3: find peace and align your heart with the light. Two 672 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 3: selfless service, where your greatest purpose is to invest your 673 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 3: time in energy into helping others, Knowing that true treasure 674 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:06,919 Speaker 3: is non material and eternal. And Three unwavering hope. Understanding 675 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 3: that physical death is not an interruption but a transition 676 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 3: because the core of your being, your soul is permanently 677 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 3: connected to that light and cannot be destroyed. Focusing on 678 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:25,439 Speaker 3: these three truths and you fulfill the highest spiritual law. 679 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 3: So what does this mean for all of us? The 680 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 3: message from all of this evidence combined is that consciousness survives, 681 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 3: that the universe at its core is pure, unconditional love, 682 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 3: and that our loved ones are safe, whole, and still 683 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 3: part of our lives. What I've shared with you today 684 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 3: are spiritual truths that I am concentrating on, and I 685 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 3: encourage you to find your spiritual truths. I do believe 686 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 3: our loved ones want us to know this so that 687 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 3: we can do the one thing they all seem to 688 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 3: tell us and these near death experiences, and that is 689 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,919 Speaker 3: to live this life fully without fear. Our loved ones 690 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 3: are encouraging us to set sail on the ocean of 691 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 3: life again, to live life with purpose, to live with kindness, 692 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,479 Speaker 3: to live with forgiveness, and of course to live with love, 693 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 3: because that is the one universal truth that all of 694 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:26,359 Speaker 3: these experiences, all of these different religions or lamps, are 695 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 3: lighting the way for I hope you've enjoyed this episode 696 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 3: different but I think important. Remember come visit me We 697 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 3: Don't Die dot com if you don't have a copy 698 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 3: of my book yet, so you can enter your name 699 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,919 Speaker 3: and email address at the bottom of the page. Come 700 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 3: to one of our free Sunday gatherings with medium demonstration included, 701 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 3: or take a class and mediumship you practice with your 702 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 3: loved ones. They're pretty amazing. I'm Sandra Champlain. Know that 703 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 3: you are never alone. Thank you for listening to Shades 704 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 3: of the after Life on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 705 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 3: Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. 706 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 707 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 2: A and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out 708 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 2: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 709 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 2: to iHeartRadio dot com.