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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. After a brief one week hiatus, we
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Speaker 1: Beautiful Star in Frisco. It's a new month. It's draft
Speaker 1: month here at the Star in Frisco. Bill Jones, Yes,
Speaker 1: finally we get to hear our fight songwoy. Yes, finally
Speaker 1: it's been since before the San Francisco game. We finally
Speaker 1: get to hear it agains. That means the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: won the offseason already. No, it a fight song for
Speaker 1: the draft. There you go, All right, haven't won the
Speaker 1: off season just yet. But here I am Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: and here he is Mickey Spagnola, And where is he
Speaker 1: Everson Walls. What a place to get stuck in Vegas? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. We get a text overnight
Speaker 1: and you were probably fast asleep. I was. I was still.
Speaker 1: We get a text from Everson that his flight has
Speaker 1: been canceled and so he couldn't make it back in
Speaker 1: time to day. I should have tried to pull that
Speaker 1: you did last week. I got a text overnight Sunday
Speaker 1: night last way, Oh forgot. I'm gonna tell you I'm
Speaker 1: going out of town on vacation. And it's a it's
Speaker 1: the beard did to Mickey Spagnola. He hasn't shaved in
Speaker 1: at least a week. At least it might be a
Speaker 1: little bit more, because there's no sense shaving when you're
Speaker 1: on your way to go skiing ski slopes. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was great. And you know what, you still have some
Speaker 1: of the snow left in your beard. Y right, that's
Speaker 1: the problem with the beard. It's got too many colors, right.
Speaker 1: And the other problem is, for some reason, everything else
Speaker 1: is salt and pepper, and the mustache comes black. It
Speaker 1: looks really weird. So I would imagine by next time
Speaker 1: you see me, this will be gone. So you have
Speaker 1: to color your mustache white. Usually you gotta sprinkle some
Speaker 1: salted there. It looks like some alternate movie star type thing,
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. Right, all right, So
Speaker 1: it was great, yep um, And I wanted to get
Speaker 1: this out of the way, right, away and say something
Speaker 1: about how far women's basketball has come. Number one, there
Speaker 1: was nineteen thousand people at the AAC for the championship game.
Speaker 1: Number two. I thought, since LSU made it to the finals,
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I'll just go. I'll walk
Speaker 1: up buy a ticket. Right that one wasn't going to happen.
Speaker 1: And then I started looking online and that wasn't going
Speaker 1: to happen. I said, well, we'll get a scalp ticket
Speaker 1: because at some point, you know, when the teams lose,
Speaker 1: they leave and try to sell their tickets. So these
Speaker 1: guys are coming up, you know you need a ticket? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how much five hundred dollars to go to a women's
Speaker 1: championship basketball game? And then there's a guy out there
Speaker 1: trying to convince these people that he can get them in.
Speaker 1: It's going to be standing room only for the first half,
Speaker 1: and then he will get you a seat the second half, okay,
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there going okay, So how much is
Speaker 1: that gonna cost? Well, that was going to be about
Speaker 1: three or four hundred dollars and you wouldn't have a seat.
Speaker 1: And so he was talking to these young ladies, so
Speaker 1: they also had a line how about this, get a
Speaker 1: line by the box office, because at the last minute,
Speaker 1: tickets come available. Now tell me how those tickets come available.
Speaker 1: I don't know how do they It sounds like a
Speaker 1: nefarious thing that all of a sudden tickets start showing
Speaker 1: up right at tip off, right, Yeah, And so this
Speaker 1: guy's telling these girls, and I go, there's no standing
Speaker 1: room in this place. And I think there might, concourse,
Speaker 1: there might be one spot behind, you know where the
Speaker 1: little fences are, that one section in the lower level
Speaker 1: at the top. But there's no place to stand to
Speaker 1: watch unless you're going to stand in the in the
Speaker 1: concourse or in the entrance way into the stadium. Right.
Speaker 1: Finally the police showed up and chase these guys off. Right.
Speaker 1: They were getting desperate, but they weren't desperate enough to
Speaker 1: lower their price, right, And it's like, okay, buddy, go
Speaker 1: eat it. Right. Wow, but this is women's basketball now.
Speaker 1: I remember when it wasn't even I covered games, when
Speaker 1: wasn't even an NCAA UH sanctioned sport, right ai A
Speaker 1: w Yes. In fact, Kim Mukie her first national championship
Speaker 1: that she won as a player at LA Tech. It
Speaker 1: was still the whatever it stands for AIAW and then
Speaker 1: one of the other teams it was always good. Was
Speaker 1: in Texas? Was it? Stephen F. Austin was good? Stephen F.
Speaker 1: Austin and the Texas Yeah, the Flying Queens. And I'm saying,
Speaker 1: now we've come a long way just to get in
Speaker 1: when nineteen thousand were there. And then we see a
Speaker 1: young lady score forty points in consecutive playoff games. Unbelievable player.
Speaker 1: She should have been the Chuck Holly of the tournament. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was she was incredible. Yeah. Yeah, she has Steph
Speaker 1: and we're talking about Caitlin Clark from Iowa. She has
Speaker 1: Steph Curry range on her shot, you know. And I've
Speaker 1: watched her for several games now, even going back to
Speaker 1: the regional tournament, and she reminds me she's like the
Speaker 1: quarterback of the team. Her passes are incredible. She is
Speaker 1: a basketball savant and she but she reminds me the
Speaker 1: game has slowed down so much for her. She looks
Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady running that offense. And
Speaker 1: she doesn't break a sweat and she just has a
Speaker 1: calmness about her. And now she will turn it over.
Speaker 1: There are eight or nine turnovers that she has in
Speaker 1: the game because of the special passes that she is
Speaker 1: making and her teammates just aren't ready for it. But
Speaker 1: spectacular player. And she's got another year at IOWA. Two
Speaker 1: two more things and then we'll get onto football. The
Speaker 1: one three she hit in the semifinal game, her foot
Speaker 1: was on the edge of the center court logo go yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like it says final four and her foot
Speaker 1: was almost on the arm, not uncommon for her. And
Speaker 1: you talk about how far the women's game has come,
Speaker 1: I mean, how about the LSU team yesterday and the
Speaker 1: shots they were making. He scored a hund two points
Speaker 1: the championship game. I was sitting there going, when the
Speaker 1: thing was getting tight, I'm going, they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: score one hundred points to win. Because I finally gave
Speaker 1: up and I came back home and you know, watching
Speaker 1: it on my phone while I was driving, and you
Speaker 1: were really into this. I wanted to. I want to.
Speaker 1: I set aside a couple of hours yesterday afternoon that
Speaker 1: I'm not taking any phone calls. I'm watching this, yes
Speaker 1: and it was compelling. And now you needed to wear
Speaker 1: your officiating cap in here today. Well, that was my
Speaker 1: next point. Worst they ruined the game. Nineteen thousand people
Speaker 1: went to the game to see Caitlin Clark and Angela
Speaker 1: Les angel angel Leise, I said, Angela, and they got
Speaker 1: in ful trouble immediately. What are you doing in the
Speaker 1: post for Iowa two Yes, and I read a story. No,
Speaker 1: don't get don't get me wrong on any of this,
Speaker 1: but I always think when you get to the championship game,
Speaker 1: you get the best officials. There was a story in
Speaker 1: Sunday's paper about how this is the first time in
Speaker 1: the women's championship game that all three officials were going
Speaker 1: to be female. I think they need to rethink it.
Speaker 1: This is basketball. They were calling the game like there
Speaker 1: was a bunch of girls out there playing. These girls
Speaker 1: are good, they're aggressive, they're physical. All these touch files
Speaker 1: and then the technical file. When she just threw the ball,
Speaker 1: you know what she needingly, you know what she did
Speaker 1: on that. I talk about her being a basketball savant. No,
Speaker 1: there's no there's no official in the vicinity of where
Speaker 1: she was. She was about to huddle up with her
Speaker 1: team before a free throw, and she tosses the ball
Speaker 1: behind her to the spot where the official. Good the
Speaker 1: official is gonna be lined up for the free throw
Speaker 1: right exactly, and they called it. It It wasn't a loss
Speaker 1: of disrespect and not the fact that it's a technical.
Speaker 1: It was her fourth yeah, and until yeah, the technical
Speaker 1: carries with it a personal foul, and they gave her
Speaker 1: a fourth vowel. And as an official, you have to
Speaker 1: have even if and they've given her a warning before
Speaker 1: delay a game warning a few minutes earlier. And so
Speaker 1: that's why in her statement, that's why she rang her
Speaker 1: up with a technical. But you have to have more
Speaker 1: awareness of that, I mean, understand what you're calling in
Speaker 1: the entirety of the game. You have to have a
Speaker 1: more awareness. I mean that those two girls had the impact.
Speaker 1: You're the people you came to watch. Had two fouls
Speaker 1: before the quarter was over. The first quarter? What are
Speaker 1: you doing? Yeah, it's just because in the first half
Speaker 1: of the game, Angel Reeks is sitting on the bench
Speaker 1: for the majority of the first half and they were
Speaker 1: all like battle. I mean, it was both ways. It was.
Speaker 1: It was incompetent. I don't know how. I don't know
Speaker 1: how those head coaches didn't get a technical. Fill bulkesher deserved.
Speaker 1: She tried hard, there was there was one play that
Speaker 1: would the video ad viral. It shows the official in
Speaker 1: front of the LSU bench having to push Morki Molki
Speaker 1: makes contact with her with ranting and she has to
Speaker 1: push her away to make the call on the court
Speaker 1: or whatever to do her job. But that doesn't get
Speaker 1: a technical. What a scene, What a scene. People were
Speaker 1: all over that place. And by the way, if you
Speaker 1: want to see how far I think this relates, not
Speaker 1: just to women's basketball but sports in general, how far
Speaker 1: things have come in thirty years. Yes, like Caitlin Clark
Speaker 1: that the last time a player scored over forty points
Speaker 1: in a championship in the final four with Cheryl swoops
Speaker 1: Texas Tech, and that was thirty years ago in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety three. And there's a video on YouTube. You can
Speaker 1: go back and watch the entirety of that game if
Speaker 1: you wish, but you know, all you have to do
Speaker 1: is watch about thirty seconds of it and you see
Speaker 1: the players on the court. Compare that to what we
Speaker 1: have today and the strength and conditioning programs, the skills
Speaker 1: training that all of these athletes are getting in all
Speaker 1: sports at all levels is just unbelievable. The athletes that
Speaker 1: are on the court or on a football field now
Speaker 1: compared to what they were thirty years ago. And the
Speaker 1: girl that should have gotten the MVP was Alexis Morris.
Speaker 1: Not only did she save today, scoring like somebody can
Speaker 1: hit twelve to fifteen foot jump shots yea, which is
Speaker 1: the mid range jumper. No one does it anymore. And
Speaker 1: the fact that she held Caitlin Clark to thirty Now
Speaker 1: that may not sound like a great deal, but she
Speaker 1: held her to thirty points and got two files on
Speaker 1: her for pushing off with her help. But anyway, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a neat day. I wish I could have
Speaker 1: got in, but I had, I tried, I couldn't make
Speaker 1: at five hundred dollars. It was like, I can't do that.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what the TV ratings are
Speaker 1: on it. And meanwhile, meanwhile, you got a men's game
Speaker 1: tonight that um or a men's final four that had
Speaker 1: so many long shots most long shots made it in history,
Speaker 1: as far as no top three seeds that made it
Speaker 1: to the final four. I just heard on the radio
Speaker 1: the call for San Diego State when the guy made
Speaker 1: the basket, Yeah, he goes, he's something like they won.
Speaker 1: They won. They won, And tell you what, FAU is
Speaker 1: not going to the championship game San Diego State is
Speaker 1: what a great great four days for State of Texas. Yep,
Speaker 1: two games here and or three year and three in Houston.
Speaker 1: Pretty cool, Pretty cool? All right, we gotta probably get
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys. You don't eating go to the Taylors
Speaker 1: of concert. I did not, but it sounds like I
Speaker 1: should have. All right, So what in the world did
Speaker 1: you put on your legal pad on your sl This
Speaker 1: is like all leftover stuff I tried to keep up.
Speaker 1: I mean not not too much happened last week, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cowboys resigned Jonathan Hankins one year deal the veteran exception.
Speaker 1: They lost Carlos Watkins to Arizona on a one year deal,
Speaker 1: So that tells me the Cowboys didn't try real hard
Speaker 1: to But yeah, and the one year deal on Hankins,
Speaker 1: I mean it's one point three. And then as far
Speaker 1: as the salary cap, it's the veteran basically, it's a
Speaker 1: cap one point it's a nine million, yeah, an exception. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So and that's the market out there, right. You're seeing
Speaker 1: really over the course of a two week period here,
Speaker 1: since the first wave of free agency when the big
Speaker 1: money was being spent these veteran players, because the market
Speaker 1: is so flooded, they have had to accept one year deals, yeah,
Speaker 1: across the board and just hoping that they play well
Speaker 1: enough that they make good one year deals, hoping that
Speaker 1: you get in that upper echelon right when you hit
Speaker 1: free agency again next year, and then I get a
Speaker 1: two year deal, right right, But I mean think about
Speaker 1: it what Jay Ryan Curse did, right, and he parlayed
Speaker 1: his one year deal to a two year deal. But
Speaker 1: now he, you know, goes into his last year of
Speaker 1: his contract, and you're just hoping that somebody will um,
Speaker 1: you know, bite on you later. I mean the same
Speaker 1: thing with Ronald Jones when they signed him, right, it
Speaker 1: was a one one year and he's been in the league,
Speaker 1: what four or five years. M Dante Filler probably thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: I did enough to get a multi year deal. Oh
Speaker 1: he's resigned for one year. Those six sacks, so and
Speaker 1: then the Cowboys nibbled with Chumahdoga and enrico'dondell who was
Speaker 1: on IR So that was you know, kind of inedible, inevitable.
Speaker 1: So yeah, um, but I think from the Cowboys standpoint
Speaker 1: getting Dante Foller back, that was six sacks on the
Speaker 1: team that ended up what third in the league in sacks.
Speaker 1: The beauty of it is with the one year signings
Speaker 1: is it has no impact whatsoever on what you do
Speaker 1: in the draft, right and uh, no, it impacks it
Speaker 1: because now you don't have to reach. No, that's true,
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Yeah, it allows you to be
Speaker 1: true to your board and true to whatever position. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys can go any number of positions. Uh and I'm
Speaker 1: talking every round of the draft. And what is it's
Speaker 1: really shown you even going back to the COVID year
Speaker 1: where you had and with the new rules as far
Speaker 1: as being able to have extra players on a practice
Speaker 1: squad and so forth, you can find quality players who
Speaker 1: are veterans on the street who can impact your team
Speaker 1: more right now than maybe even a fourth round draft
Speaker 1: pick in or a third round draft pick. Take Jalen
Speaker 1: Tilbert last year, a guy who needed time to develop,
Speaker 1: and we'll see where he goes this year. But you
Speaker 1: can be true to drafting quote unquote best player available
Speaker 1: in the draft because you can find players. There are
Speaker 1: players to be had all over the place. And you
Speaker 1: covered yourself at almost every position you needed to cover yourself.
Speaker 1: You know, if you get to the twenty six pick
Speaker 1: in the first round and he needed a wide receiver,
Speaker 1: well why not because the trades you made those guys
Speaker 1: are in short term deals. Right. You need a cornerback, Okay,
Speaker 1: if that's that's what's there. You need a running back, Okay,
Speaker 1: no problem there, you can do that. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, they they don't have to reach. You
Speaker 1: don't have to reach for a linebacker. I don't have
Speaker 1: to reach for a safety. I mean really, the only
Speaker 1: thing that they didn't end up with a quality veteran
Speaker 1: would have been tight end. But again, you had two
Speaker 1: young guys on the move, right, So but you're kind
Speaker 1: of covered there, so you don't have to you don't.
Speaker 1: I always go back to this. In nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 1: it was the first year of basically the salary cap
Speaker 1: in free agency, and the assistant coaches were just harping
Speaker 1: and harping, we need a defensive end, we need a
Speaker 1: defensive end, and there really wasn't any defensive ends there.
Speaker 1: And they take a shot at the defensive end Carver
Speaker 1: and he was in a first round pick, but they said,
Speaker 1: we got a need and I think, you know, they
Speaker 1: should have learned their lesson when you do something like that.
Speaker 1: Boys have done that more recently too. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: gotta watch yourself. Yeah, same thing, right, But at least
Speaker 1: he was was he a set first round? He was
Speaker 1: first round? Right, Yeah, you just but they've covered themselves
Speaker 1: so they should not have to go in the draft
Speaker 1: and say we absolutely need this. And that was the
Speaker 1: beauty of this offseason that everybody right from the start, Oh,
Speaker 1: you know, nobody's doing any work. Everybody's on spring break
Speaker 1: at the Star and slowly but surely day two, three
Speaker 1: and on, they did what they needed to do. All right.
Speaker 1: When we come back here on Mick Shots, I want
Speaker 1: to ask you about the running back situation and where
Speaker 1: it lies right now Mick Shots continues in just a moment.
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Speaker 1: to it here. Running back situation for the Cowboys. Here
Speaker 1: we are, we're basically at the halfway point between the
Speaker 1: start of free agency and the NFL Draft. Okay, so
Speaker 1: the draft now twenty four days away and free agency
Speaker 1: started three weeks ago today when the negotiating period open.
Speaker 1: Zeke has been out there for two over two weeks
Speaker 1: now and hasn't found a new NFL home yet. My
Speaker 1: question to you about Tony Pollard, what is the ideal
Speaker 1: situation with Pollard with the Cowboys as far as how
Speaker 1: he has used this season in my opinion, and and
Speaker 1: and along with that, what is the best type back
Speaker 1: assuming Bijan Robinson is not there at twenty six when
Speaker 1: the Cowboys draft, what is the best type back to
Speaker 1: pair with Tony Pollard Somebody like Bijean and Robinson. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine for the first time in his career meeting
Speaker 1: at Memphis and here that he's going to be a
Speaker 1: guy they're going to lean on for twenty five touches
Speaker 1: a game for seventeen weeks. I think his role is
Speaker 1: probably not that much different than last year. The touches.
Speaker 1: He was getting the big plays, but are you going
Speaker 1: to rely on him for the seven touchdowns? Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: scored from the one yard line because they didn't ask
Speaker 1: him to do that. They asked Zeke, right, So I
Speaker 1: think his role should remain the same. And sometimes when
Speaker 1: you end up getting like in baseball, you get more
Speaker 1: at bats, you're a two hundred and fifty at bats
Speaker 1: second baseman and you hit two eighty and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they want to give you four hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty at bats and you hit two twenty. So
Speaker 1: to me, his role should be the same. And the
Speaker 1: running back they're looking for they covered themselves somewhat, would
Speaker 1: Ron Jones. But in the draft, if one's available, like
Speaker 1: a Bijon Robinson that can play like he does and
Speaker 1: can carry a heavier load, than I think they should
Speaker 1: grab one. Somebody that can run the ball, tough, can
Speaker 1: get to the outside, can catch the ball, and then
Speaker 1: you rely on Pollard for your big splash flace place.
Speaker 1: What do you think that found it very interesting what
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones said at the owner's meetings last week when
Speaker 1: asked about Zeke, and he said a lot of the
Speaker 1: things you would expect him to say about not offering
Speaker 1: him and not disrespecting him with the low ball offer
Speaker 1: or whatever, but basically leaving the door open that Zeke
Speaker 1: could possibly return to the Cowboys. Somebody would have and
Speaker 1: I know they did, but in case they didn't read
Speaker 1: my co alum on Zeke before Stevens said that, I
Speaker 1: pointed out number one, they didn't want to dishonor him
Speaker 1: with a low ball offer. They just didn't think that
Speaker 1: was the right thing to do to maybe bring that
Speaker 1: ten point nine to I don't know, what do you
Speaker 1: think they would have offered maybe a base salary of
Speaker 1: three four million something like that. Well that's the market
Speaker 1: out there, basically right for the top running backs out there, really,
Speaker 1: and they thought that would have been disrespectful. So let
Speaker 1: him go and see what he can do. But I
Speaker 1: was told that you get through the draft and if
Speaker 1: he's still out there, you know there, don't discount him
Speaker 1: coming back. And that's basically what Steven Jones said at
Speaker 1: the owner's meeting. And I wouldn't dismiss that one bit
Speaker 1: because I think he was second or third in the
Speaker 1: league on third and short picking up first downs, and
Speaker 1: if you look at what he did with the seven
Speaker 1: of his twelve touchdowns from the one yard line. Who's
Speaker 1: going to get those twelve touchdowns for you? By the way, Well,
Speaker 1: very similarly, Jamal Williams for Detroit he had I think
Speaker 1: eighteen touchdowns this past year for the Lions. He got
Speaker 1: signed by the Saints and it was announced as a
Speaker 1: three year, twelve million dollar deal, eight million dollars guaranteed,
Speaker 1: So in that same range of three to four million
Speaker 1: dollars years for a player about the same age too
Speaker 1: as Zeke. So I certainly wouldn't dismiss that, and it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see now they just gave away I
Speaker 1: understand twenty one gave who the Cowboys did gave away
Speaker 1: his number? Oh yeah, right, yeah, I thought you were
Speaker 1: talking months twenty one. No, Gilmore had Gilly one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he did tweet out he would like fifteen. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's available, isn't it. Greer Will Greer at fifteen? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's right. That's correct. Um, so yeah. But
Speaker 1: to the point of my initial question, what type back
Speaker 1: would you pair with Tony Pollard if you don't have
Speaker 1: an elite first round Bijean Robinson available to you in
Speaker 1: the draft, but there's backs like that they're in the
Speaker 1: second third round. Yeah, right, that you wouldn't mind handing
Speaker 1: the ball to the other part of it is, even
Speaker 1: from a salary standpoint, is as it stands, now, what's
Speaker 1: the salary cap hit not having Zeke on the team.
Speaker 1: It's still um for this five point eight million this year,
Speaker 1: six point one million next year. So you're still paying
Speaker 1: for him your account without without about actually giving him money.
Speaker 1: That's right, right, So what is next? Another two million
Speaker 1: dollar hit this year where you're actually getting a player
Speaker 1: for that money? Yes, absolutely. And the other thing, don't
Speaker 1: just miss his presence in that locker room too, which
Speaker 1: has been building over these last two years. Right, you
Speaker 1: need somebody like that, a little bit goofy, but still guys,
Speaker 1: respect what he has done, what he can do. I mean,
Speaker 1: all you got to do is listen to what the
Speaker 1: quarterback said, right, And I know they're friends and all that,
Speaker 1: but aside and he's a team guy. Yes, he'll do
Speaker 1: anything you ask. He's not a me me guy. Right now.
Speaker 1: People will say, well as contract, hey are he's trying
Speaker 1: to get in that second contract he was getting as
Speaker 1: much money and it was smart of him. Did get
Speaker 1: as much money as he could well, But now he's
Speaker 1: at a different point in his career, right, And do
Speaker 1: you want to leave Dallas and the marketing aspect of
Speaker 1: playing for the Cowboys versus another team. That's another factor
Speaker 1: that should weigh into it from his perspective. I think
Speaker 1: here's my list of some Cowboys. Tony Dorset did he
Speaker 1: finish his career with the Cowboys? Oh? Got traded? Right?
Speaker 1: Emmitt Smith? Did he finish his career with the Cowboys? No?
Speaker 1: He got cut? Um? Tony Romo got cut. Danny White,
Speaker 1: They didn't pick up his option when he thought it
Speaker 1: was his option. Right after Jimmy got here. Troy Aikman,
Speaker 1: did he get cut? They didn't pick up his option? Right?
Speaker 1: They basically let Aikman go. Raphael Wright got released. Evanserton Walls.
Speaker 1: This is why he's not here. He got cut? Did
Speaker 1: text Tom and Gill leave on their own? Not so much? Right?
Speaker 1: DeMarcus where he got cut? Bob Hayes he ended up?
Speaker 1: I want to say he got cut and he went
Speaker 1: to San Diego. Maybe so I believe that that I
Speaker 1: remember that. Uh, Jimmy basically got cut, right? Um. Larry
Speaker 1: Allen got released, so, um, you know, it's like it
Speaker 1: happens Flozelle, you know, Nate, he didn't get resigned and
Speaker 1: played one year Francisco, San Francisco. I just found my
Speaker 1: game in my note he had thirty he had four games.
Speaker 1: Uh he played, Um and nobody remembers. Hayes got released
Speaker 1: at thirty four. Yeah, so it's happened to some of
Speaker 1: the great players in Cowboy history. So this is not
Speaker 1: something like, oh, you know, but this is what happens.
Speaker 1: So um yeah, but I want a back sort of
Speaker 1: like Zeke. Uh. And you know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones can can carry that load, but look at
Speaker 1: the his uh his carries. Look how many carries he had. Zeke, Yes,
Speaker 1: he ended up with two hundred and thirty one carries.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to hear about the three point eight.
Speaker 1: Had too many one yard runs into the end zone.
Speaker 1: We talked about that, right, he factored it in. But
Speaker 1: he also had a bunch of one yard ones on
Speaker 1: third down. That really makes Zeke is an old school
Speaker 1: running back, right, I mean I looked up. I don't
Speaker 1: have it in front of me right now, but seventh
Speaker 1: year in the league, Emmett Smith averaged three point seven
Speaker 1: yards to carry right, and then he was able to
Speaker 1: play at a very high level for seven more years
Speaker 1: in the league. Now he was rare, he was out right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but still you need somebody like that, So yeah, don't
Speaker 1: don't discount the fact that he could be back here.
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Speaker 1: Billy Joel early? Because I think I might have nineteen
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Speaker 1: have done so far in free agency, We've talked about
Speaker 1: where they sit here twenty four days away from the draft,
Speaker 1: that Dallas Day here on Friday. What an advantage that
Speaker 1: is for this team to be able when you've got
Speaker 1: the talent that is produced in a DFW plus the
Speaker 1: colleges here to be able to bring those people in
Speaker 1: for Dallas Day at a big advantage for this team.
Speaker 1: Who caught your eye brought in? Well, there's there's a
Speaker 1: number that, um that I've caught my eye in the
Speaker 1: area that may not have been here in the building
Speaker 1: on Dallas Day, but might be paying a visit at
Speaker 1: some point, like one of their national visits that they
Speaker 1: have available. Well, yeah, national visits, and and you've got
Speaker 1: some local guys who would qualify for other teams as
Speaker 1: being legit, you know, first or second day draft picks
Speaker 1: that you know, you go back to two nineteen and
Speaker 1: we had you know, CBS eleven has the Landry Award
Speaker 1: ceremony every year and the final I went back and
Speaker 1: looked at the finalist in two nineteen coming out of
Speaker 1: high school. Here you had Jackson Smith and Jigba from
Speaker 1: Rockwall who is a first round prospect from Ohio State.
Speaker 1: He had Marvin Mems from Lone Star High School here
Speaker 1: in Frisco, who played at Oklahoma, who's probably he's probably
Speaker 1: maybe second round, second or third round draft pick, who
Speaker 1: lit it up at the combine. One of the top
Speaker 1: linebackers in this draft Drew Sanders from Denton, Ryan who
Speaker 1: went to Alabama and then transferred to Arkansas. Those three,
Speaker 1: those three were three of the five finalists for the
Speaker 1: Landry Award that year. The fourth was Chandler Morris, who's
Speaker 1: going to be the starting quarterback at TCU this year.
Speaker 1: It was the starting quarterback at the beginning of last
Speaker 1: year before Max Duggan. He got hurt. Max Duggan became
Speaker 1: a Heisman finally give it back. So anyway, it's it's
Speaker 1: just an example of the type you know, prospects that
Speaker 1: come out of DFW. So there's there's three local guys
Speaker 1: right there that should be on the Cowboys radar, A
Speaker 1: couple of wide receivers in a linebacker, I like the
Speaker 1: wide receiver at Ohio State, Yes, Jackson Smith and Jigba. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He just needed to stay healthy, right and he wasn't
Speaker 1: healthy this past year. But he's the Cowboys should feel
Speaker 1: fortunate if he's still available at twenty six. I think
Speaker 1: he's going much earlier than that. I mean, don't you
Speaker 1: think he I've read where somebody was writing about him
Speaker 1: and they, you know, the analysis was, he's just a
Speaker 1: slot receiver. I thought he played out so he can
Speaker 1: do whatever, he can do anything, right. Yeah. Now the
Speaker 1: thing is he has played a lot in the slot
Speaker 1: and he's got the athletic ability to but he's not
Speaker 1: a smallish, you know, slot receiver. Yeah, but yeah he
Speaker 1: what was his best year was the second year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: go watch the Rose Bowl? Yes, absolutely, single handedly it's
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl was his CD lamb uh ou Texas game. Right,
Speaker 1: you know when when c D came out, all you
Speaker 1: had to do is go watch the Texas game. Well
Speaker 1: with Jackson, go watch the Rose Bowl. Um um anyway,
Speaker 1: that's that's um. Oh. The other thing I was going
Speaker 1: to mention the TCU um you know, and and the
Speaker 1: local colleges qualify as guys that they can bring in
Speaker 1: for Dallas day. Quentin Johnston the wide receiver from TCU,
Speaker 1: big wide receiver, Calvin Johnson like uh as a first
Speaker 1: round prospect too, and um boy like his size. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's hard to cover. That's one of those Just throw
Speaker 1: it up to Alvin, right, yeah, there you throw it
Speaker 1: up to that guy. Yeah, absolutely, um. Yeah. And so
Speaker 1: you know, wide receiver, we talked about it, running back,
Speaker 1: we talked about it, tight end. SMUs got a wide receiver,
Speaker 1: Rushie Rice at a Richland high school here, who is
Speaker 1: a really good prospect. So you named the position. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why they need it. You know, even quarterback
Speaker 1: down the line, why not fifty sixth round if somebody
Speaker 1: catches your eye, Jerry has said, could be Duggan Duggan,
Speaker 1: Duggan Sr. Dugan Duggan. Jerry has said, uh, fairly recently
Speaker 1: that you know. It may have been when Brock Purty
Speaker 1: was doing his thing with San Francisco. You know it's, uh,
Speaker 1: maybe we should draft a quarterback every year, oh, change
Speaker 1: something like that. Since they went all the well, they
Speaker 1: never needed a quarterback and they were always relying on
Speaker 1: veteran guys to be the backup. Right until you run
Speaker 1: out of veteran guys to be your backup, then you go, well,
Speaker 1: let's take that prescot. The other part of it is,
Speaker 1: you know, there was a time where quarterbacks weren't getting hurt, right,
Speaker 1: but this past year there's a number of teams I've
Speaker 1: been half the teams in the league at some point
Speaker 1: had to go to a backup quarterback this year and
Speaker 1: win a longer season. And you know, and here's the
Speaker 1: other thing. Even on the down the line quarterbacks they
Speaker 1: started in college. You know, quarterbacks aren't sitting behind somebody
Speaker 1: and saying, okay, I'll wait my turn. They'll go find
Speaker 1: someplace to play. And I think these guys are much
Speaker 1: more prepared now for to play in the NFL than
Speaker 1: it was ten fifteen years. Kind of getting back to
Speaker 1: where we started. How far when wetball has come, how
Speaker 1: far has quarterback? Think about these quarterbacks and how much
Speaker 1: football they play. There is now an offseason program around
Speaker 1: the country which is called seven on seven where they
Speaker 1: have a football in their hands doing something. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you're around seven on seven because I had seven to
Speaker 1: eleven on my mind. Yeah, they get to play seven.
Speaker 1: But no, even in high school right there, they're just
Speaker 1: more prepared now if you stay in college long enough,
Speaker 1: right you know these you know two one and done,
Speaker 1: they're not one and done in football, one one and
Speaker 1: done starting any Yeah, yeah, you got Richardson from Florida,
Speaker 1: you got to play? That one scares me. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's got all the athletic ability in the world, right,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't played that much football. Do you think
Speaker 1: that helped Troy Aikman as much football as he played
Speaker 1: in his college career. There's no doubt Tony Romo how
Speaker 1: much football he played and then sat for three years
Speaker 1: before he got a chance. It's it's huge, even Dak.
Speaker 1: I mean he played, yeah, I mean was it for
Speaker 1: three full years? Three full years as a starter? Ye?
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson or Florida was a starter this year, started
Speaker 1: twelve games. Prior to that, he had one start in
Speaker 1: his college career. See that scares me. That's scary. And
Speaker 1: a fifty four completion percentage this year too, because these
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that come out too soon that haven't played a lot,
Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot, and now you're going to make
Speaker 1: that transition in the NFL. Okay, all right, let me
Speaker 1: ask you. There's another thing that was coming out of
Speaker 1: the owner's meetings last week as far as the Cowboys
Speaker 1: offensive tackles. Yes, and Terrence Steele obviously coming off the
Speaker 1: ACL injury now tyring his contract redone. What do you
Speaker 1: make of what Jerry said about the situation at the
Speaker 1: tackle percent. So I think his point was that they
Speaker 1: would look at Steele as a potential swing tackle can
Speaker 1: play each side. I don't know that he's ready for
Speaker 1: the left side because if he had a shortcoming, I
Speaker 1: think it was pass blocking, right. But what nobody pointed
Speaker 1: out after all that, like, oh, they're gonna do this
Speaker 1: and this. What if Steele is ready to play? He's
Speaker 1: my right tackle. What if I don't have somebody that
Speaker 1: I can sink my teeth into at left guard? So
Speaker 1: what about Tyron going back to left tackle and Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith moving the left guard? What's wrong with that? Here's
Speaker 1: the deal. I mean, that was the plan until Tyrn
Speaker 1: got hurt. The decision doesn't have to be made, yes,
Speaker 1: until September exactly, and Terren Steele is going to be
Speaker 1: in rehab from his ACL injury throughout the offseason basically, okay,
Speaker 1: because that was a December injury, so he probably didn't
Speaker 1: have the surgery to mid to late Yeah, so his
Speaker 1: nine months are included September. That's right. And so when
Speaker 1: Jerry is answering the question right now, and you can
Speaker 1: also keep in mind where Terren Steele is with his contract,
Speaker 1: He's going into his last year or whatever, and where
Speaker 1: Tyrn is in his career and you want to respect Tyrant. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it And when they go out for OTAs in May,
Speaker 1: how are they lining up? Okay, who's going out with
Speaker 1: the first team. Well, Tyler Smith is going to be
Speaker 1: at left tackle. Tyrn, depending on how much he does,
Speaker 1: is you can line him up at right tackle, just
Speaker 1: at the end, like at the end of last year,
Speaker 1: because you may Terrence Steele may not be ready to
Speaker 1: go Game one in September exactly, and so you have
Speaker 1: to go into the offseason. Those are your two tackles.
Speaker 1: It's a different deal than if everybody's healthy and then
Speaker 1: you've sort things out and you see where you are
Speaker 1: injury wise and who you've added to the team and
Speaker 1: so forth once you get into training camp and so forth.
Speaker 1: But you don't have to The easy thing to say
Speaker 1: right now is this is what we've got. We've got
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith here, We've got Tyrn Smith there, and Terren
Speaker 1: Steele is your swing guy right and we'll use a
Speaker 1: doga as the left. You pencil him in there and
Speaker 1: see what he can do a guard and see what
Speaker 1: you get in the draft. Remember, he was so good
Speaker 1: he only got to sign a one year deal, and
Speaker 1: no one wanted him to be a starter. You would think, right,
Speaker 1: no one was sinking their teeth into this guy. Now
Speaker 1: he may becauses idoga Yeah yeah, right, yeah, one year deal,
Speaker 1: So he's going to have to win that job. They're
Speaker 1: not going to hand it to him. I think McCarthy
Speaker 1: said that's kind of how they would probably line up
Speaker 1: that the he'll compete for that starting job. I don't
Speaker 1: know that he's got any competition there, although well he
Speaker 1: has in his career. He's appeared in twenty six games
Speaker 1: with thirteen starts, so he's been a part time starter
Speaker 1: in his career. Doga has in this past year or
Speaker 1: two games. Once started Atlanta. Previous year with the Jets,
Speaker 1: five games, no starts, and then in twenty twenty, which
Speaker 1: was his second year in the league with the Jets,
Speaker 1: he had eleven games and four starts and eight starts
Speaker 1: his rookie year as a third round draft pick in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. And you got to find out what FARNIAX
Speaker 1: got right, Um? And and even if he's not starting,
Speaker 1: is he the guy that's the guard, center guy, swing guy? Um?
Speaker 1: You got to sort that one out. Now, everybody, you know,
Speaker 1: when they don't see a star at left tackle, I
Speaker 1: mean left guard, it is like, oh, we gotta draft
Speaker 1: a guard in the first round. We're not going to
Speaker 1: draft a guarden. I'm not going to stick with that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to guard in the first round. Just
Speaker 1: like they didn't draft a guard at the first run.
Speaker 1: I was drafted a tackle that could play guard. All right,
Speaker 1: we're out of time. Oh no, already make sure Okay, yep,
Speaker 1: we're out of time on this edition of mix Shots.
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