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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: Morning everybody, it's the j n V.

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Speaker 2: Just hilarious, charlamage the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: We got some special guests in the building. We have

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Speaker 2: the Mayor of Baltimore, Brandon Scott.

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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: But also we have Eerica Bridgeford, who is from the

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Speaker 2: Baltimore Peace Movement. Welcome. Now, I do have to ask

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Speaker 2: a question before you start. I have to make sure

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Speaker 2: that you guys are really from Baltimore. So I want

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Speaker 2: you to read this.

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Speaker 1: I do it.

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Speaker 3: I'm fine. Earn earn and iron earned.

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Speaker 1: There you go. I don't know what that sounds like.

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Speaker 2: It was Darren earned and iron earned.

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Speaker 1: Always it's not.

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Speaker 4: Earned.

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Speaker 5: Why did he have to earn and iron earn?

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Speaker 1: I don't understand that's the same murd Did you just

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Speaker 1: have four times?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 1: All right? Tell you all from Baltimore.

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Speaker 7: I heard a just asked to agree.

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Speaker 1: To do it.

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Speaker 4: Wow, we want to start right out like that.

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Speaker 1: That's yes's right, but welcome guys.

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Speaker 2: How you feel good? Were good?

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Speaker 3: Brother?

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Speaker 5: It's on your second term.

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Speaker 3: Sir, Thank you, thank you, thank you, long time coming.

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Speaker 3: Just you know, the last time we had a two

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Speaker 3: term mayor in Baltimore. I was a sophomore in college

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Speaker 3: twenty years ago. It's been twenty years since we had it.

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Speaker 3: So it's a big deal in the honor for me

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Speaker 3: to have the have the city say like, no, we

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Speaker 3: want to keep moving in this direction, especially from someone

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Speaker 3: that grew up there when we grew up there and

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Speaker 3: understand everything that has been happening.

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Speaker 2: So what made you want to become a mayor of Baltimore?

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Speaker 3: So this is a real easy thing, man. So I

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Speaker 3: grew up in Park Heights, right, It's a place in

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Speaker 3: northwest Baltimore. It's the best neighborhood.

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Speaker 7: Sorry, Joe, don't even.

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Speaker 6: Start that about West.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what you let you finish.

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Speaker 3: So imagine envy living in the neighborhood literally so that

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Speaker 3: the horse race Preakness is in my neighborhood. Imagine living

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Speaker 3: in a neighborhood that's the center of the world every

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Speaker 3: You're not treated as human where we wouldn't even go

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Speaker 3: what we call Preakness sweeps. If he was outside looked

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Speaker 3: like us, you could be gone. But the next day

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Speaker 3: somebody who don't look like us could be peeing in

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Speaker 3: was even seven years old, I saw someone get shot

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Speaker 3: outside playing basketball and no one care. And literally I

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Speaker 3: just start pestering my parents, my uncles, my grandparents of

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Speaker 3: all why no one care? And one day my mom

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Speaker 3: just said, look, if you wanted to change, you gotta

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Speaker 3: change yourself. No one's coming to save us. And having

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Speaker 3: my family be involved in the community, my uncle dragging

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Speaker 3: me with him to political fundraisers when people were trying

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Speaker 3: understanding of what people should have been doing and who

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Speaker 3: I wanted to.

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Speaker 5: Be at a very young age.

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Speaker 6: You already already knew because I was. I was about

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Speaker 6: to ask you what made you not go the other way?

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, because while I'm going to

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Speaker 6: give credit it to your hood why Park Heights is

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Speaker 6: one of the best hoods in West Baltimore City, it

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what made you not go?

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Speaker 3: It's a little different now, I tell the young like y'all.

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Speaker 3: Y'all have no idea. Y'all don't know the Old Park Heights.

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Speaker 3: But for me, it's about it's a couple of things.

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Speaker 3: It's my family, right like so, I am a first

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Speaker 3: And then my dad's family. My dad followed, my uncles

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Speaker 3: which is why I don't eat pork, because I used

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Speaker 7: Be greater, and you have a.

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Speaker 3: Responsibility to us and those who put you in this

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Speaker 3: further place. But I also had the community itself, growing

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Speaker 3: up running track as an athlete and playing sports. Ironically,

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Speaker 3: it was also the people that were deciding who live

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Speaker 3: or die or what the beef was in the neighborhood

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Speaker 3: who said, like, you have to be better than us.

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Speaker 3: We want you to be better. Do not let us

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Speaker 3: hear about you getting into any trouble or things like that.

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Speaker 3: And if even some of my family members who work

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Speaker 3: for them were putting me in danger, they would check them.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 3: It was just a different time. So I would say

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Speaker 3: I had the entirety of this city that really pushed

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Speaker 3: me to make sure that I became a better version

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Speaker 2: Now what can a maya actually really do?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: We look at you know, res I ask is you

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Speaker 2: know people to say the vice president is the vice president,

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Speaker 2: but what can she do? You know the president can

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Speaker 2: do certain things, but she has to get things signed

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Speaker 2: off on. So what can a mayor actually?

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Speaker 7: Do?

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Speaker 2: You control? Funding? Do you control?

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Speaker 3: I do so as the mayor of Baltimore, So I do.

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Speaker 3: And I think what people have to understand is the

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Speaker 3: mayor is an.

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Speaker 7: Executive of a city.

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Speaker 3: Essentially, every mayor, especially if they're a strong mayor form

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Speaker 3: of government like Baltimore is. Actually Baltimore is the strongest

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Speaker 3: former mayor of government in the country, So technically I'm

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Speaker 3: direct that funding, right, and it's about and no disrespect.

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Speaker 3: I love my Vice president to death. I love my

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Speaker 3: mayors have the toughest job in America because people can

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Speaker 3: they're going to hold you accountable, even for stuff that

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Speaker 3: basic things that people Essentially, I'm the CEO of a

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Speaker 3: When they call nine one and have the have a

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Speaker 3: is important to make sure that when is someone like

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Speaker 3: understand and that things we're talking about. Our city literally

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Speaker 3: is the birthplace of racial redlining in Baltimore and everything

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Speaker 3: So when you think about things that I've just been

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Speaker 3: it's about reimagining what public safety means because for all

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Speaker 3: sole responsibility the police. But I want people to understand

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Speaker 3: how that was never true, right, And you take Baltimore

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Speaker 3: Can't keep six hundred thousand people safe, especially when they

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Speaker 3: to do the investments in changing that. And we can

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Speaker 3: we're going to just say, hey, it's all the police responsibility.

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Speaker 3: Every part of the city government has to be a

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Speaker 3: to have a comprehensive approach that's led by a health

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Speaker 3: So when you look at the fact that we're now

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Speaker 7: Deciding that we.

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Speaker 3: Weren't going to just continue down this path for just

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Speaker 3: what we call our group violence production strategy, which is

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Speaker 3: victim of perpetrator of violence. It's much like any other disease. Right,

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Speaker 3: Since my granddad had prostate cancer, when I go to

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Speaker 3: identify those people, and we're gonna give them a chance.

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Speaker 7: First, they actually get a letter directly.

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Speaker 3: From me that says, look in Baltimore terms, just yo,

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Speaker 3: I know who you are, I know what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: This is your chance. I know where you live, I

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Speaker 3: know everything about what you do. I'm telling you this

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Speaker 3: if you need to finish school, if you need you know,

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Speaker 3: mental health, whatever you need, we'll give it to you.

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Speaker 3: But don't try to call my bluff because if you

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Speaker 3: be able to say no. One tried to help me,

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Speaker 3: and it's working and we've been able to. Last year

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Speaker 3: with twenty four mayors. Make the difference on the ground.

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Speaker 3: When you think about what we're investing in. I decided

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Speaker 3: And that's only because the mayor decided that's the focus, right,

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Speaker 3: And that's what we have to do in every city

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Speaker 3: as I always say, the right thing, not the popular one.

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Speaker 3: Because there are a lot of things that I did

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Speaker 2: And when you wrote that letter, we'll get you in

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Speaker 5: How did you get involved with the Baltimore peace movement?

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Speaker 6: This About two years later, in twenty seventeen, the city

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Speaker 4: For three days as a challenge to yourself.

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Speaker 6: But we were worried that because it would be called ceasefire,

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Speaker 6: And although people be like, well that ain't nothing, you

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Speaker 6: So everybody that was like, weller's stupid, it's not going

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Speaker 4: So we're calling it cease.

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Speaker 4: Putting that energy on what we're for. Because when you redirect.

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Speaker 6: So we said, we asked Baltimore, what do you know

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Speaker 6: So I started seeing people get killed when I was

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Speaker 6: twelve years old. My brother was one of my brothers

441
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 6: was killed in two thousand and seven. My cousins have

442
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,119
Speaker 6: like just countless people. And that kind of pain and

443
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,880
Speaker 6: trauma is either gonna swallow you up whole, or it's

444
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 6: gonna push you forward into your purpose so that other

445
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 6: people don't have.

446
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Speaker 4: To experience what you experienced.

447
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Speaker 6: And so the pain of my life and understanding that

448
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 6: they are now ancestors fighting with me on the other side,

449
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 6: whispering moving pieces for me on the other side, like

450
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 6: when I did not follow my call and I was

451
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 6: suicidal and tried to kill myself. And so I'm aware

452
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 6: like I gotta do what my soul tells me to

453
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 6: do or else I'm gonna end up back on the

454
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Speaker 6: psych board, and I'm not gonna make it because I

455
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 6: shouldn't have made it this far, and survivor's remorse can

456
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 6: become a real thing. Right when I've heard bullets flying

457
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 6: past my ear. I shouldn't be here for a lot

458
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:16,479
Speaker 6: of reasons. But my parents had me on purpose, you know.

459
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Speaker 6: They said, oh, let's have a boy who's gonna change

460
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 6: the world. So I came out a girl, kind of

461
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 6: acting like.

462
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Speaker 4: A get there.

463
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Speaker 6: Other things, but they knew, so they were gonna name

464
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Speaker 6: me Malcolm Patrece had I been born a boy, but

465
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Speaker 6: they named me Aca after Ka Huggins.

466
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Speaker 4: And my middle name is Angela after Angela Davis. So

467
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Speaker 4: it's not you.

468
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Speaker 6: That's about my name, y'all. Huggins only has one R

469
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Speaker 6: in her name. He thought it was too So I

470
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 6: was reading the autobiography of Angela Davis in my twenties

471
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Speaker 6: and she mentions Araka Huggins. I'm like, that's about's name

472
00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 6: from and I'm like, no, you.

473
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Speaker 1: You spoke my neighbor.

474
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 6: He said, oh, well, and you was born with let's

475
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 6: fingers and more that you special because this also he

476
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 6: was like that, and.

477
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: Because that's what they a couple of.

478
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 4: Everything.

479
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 1: We ain't no football having up here. Tell us.

480
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Speaker 2: I want you to tell us about the Body Politic documentary.

481
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 2: It's so important why people should go check it out?

482
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Speaker 5: Which hold up?

483
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 6: Which I actually did watch and I love it because

484
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 6: uh you know he of course, Brandon said to me,

485
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 6: I love it because it speaks to people in Baltimore

486
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 6: of all ages, like my son.

487
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Speaker 5: That's something that I can watch with my son. Even

488
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 5: how it comes on.

489
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 6: It's like we have the most always say we got

490
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Speaker 6: the most authentic mayor. And I've met a lot of

491
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 6: mayors and traveling and you know, I've been on it

492
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 6: by certain mayors and and different cities and stuff, but

493
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 6: we had Baltimore. We have like one of the most

494
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Speaker 6: authentic mayors. The way he speaks, the way he talks,

495
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 6: the way he loves his city, and how he actually

496
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 6: went through ship. And it's not just a Polish because

497
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 6: you think of a Polish person. It's like, oh, this

498
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 6: person is perfect and this person, like no, Brandon is

499
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 6: literally the most you know what I'm saying, like brand absolutely, yes,

500
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 6: I say that when I look this nigga at my

501
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 6: section and my birthday party.

502
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 4: Why you got your own section.

503
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: I know you and my section ship and he's like, no,

504
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: they told me your birthday party and I had to come.

505
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, party, but he it wasn't

506
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 3: my father wasn't going on.

507
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Speaker 7: That wasn't me.

508
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 5: First it was it was a building.

509
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 4: It was it was the it was that's Dave fault,

510
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 4: that's Dave counsel fault.

511
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Speaker 1: Wasn't no. And I got that.

512
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 3: They looking at me like can you call it? I'm like,

513
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: what the hell I'm gonna do.

514
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 6: They blame him, the mayor, like this the man fall

515
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Speaker 6: Jess party.

516
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 4: I ain't had no m I'm like building.

517
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm like this, come on, y'all.

518
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 6: But like I'm saying, yo, he's he's actually somebody that

519
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 6: actually can touch the people, can actually you know, say,

520
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 6: I've walked that walk and I know why. You know,

521
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 6: things are like this and things are like and you know,

522
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 6: making the city a better place. But I love that

523
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 6: the doc is something that my whole family can watch

524
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 6: because you know, when you think about, like, oh shit,

525
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 6: the mayor just dropped the documentary, you looking to not

526
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 6: understand it because I'm a person that's not really into

527
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 6: polity either.

528
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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, but the fact that.

529
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Speaker 6: I understood the whole thing, you know, me, my son,

530
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 6: my man, we watched it, you know my mom, I saent.

531
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Speaker 6: Of course I said it to her as well, and

532
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 6: it is amazing And it's not out yet. It is,

533
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 6: it is going to be out, but it actually shows

534
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 6: you things. It comes out Monday, right, yes, but it

535
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 6: actually twenty since it actually shows you things that you

536
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 6: don't even know about your city. Like I didn't even

537
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 6: know that twenty what was it twenty nineteen?

538
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 4: Was I word?

539
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 5: She had twenty seven?

540
00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: What was it?

541
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Speaker 5: Seventeen?

542
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Speaker 1: Was not worst?

543
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know so I certain things like that, like

544
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 6: you know, so it's definitely informative. It's informational and I

545
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 6: even if you're not from there, it's definitely an inspiration

546
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 6: to have a mayor like you to come out to

547
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 6: drop a dot about your city like this.

548
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Speaker 3: Well, I think for me, I think it's important for

549
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 3: me for multiple reasons. One, like, I think it's important

550
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 3: this is something that yes it's about Baltimore, but really

551
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 3: this is also about like inner city America, right, I

552
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 3: think because you could replace me with whatever mayor across

553
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 3: like may Wood from in Birmingham, and all these other

554
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: folks that are doing this great work in their city's

555
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: mayor Jones, my favorite mayor in Saint Louis, right, who

556
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 3: are from those cities and doing this work. But I

557
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: think what happens is, like you said, Jess, and look,

558
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 3: you know, we love you. We're very proud of you.

559
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: Got to say that every time. But people look at

560
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: their elected officials and they don't really see them as human, right,

561
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 3: like they see us as these robots that have to

562
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: do this stuff over and over and over. Right. I

563
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 3: always say, like people Erica last when I see this,

564
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: people think that, like my job can be described by

565
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 3: my Instagram feed, they have no idea, right the stuff

566
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: that has to happen. And I think, for me, the

567
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 3: reason why this is the second documentary that I've done,

568
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: I was in another one called charm City when I

569
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 3: was a council person. But I did this because I

570
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 3: wanted people to see raw and uncut what it's really like,

571
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: because people have no idea what it's like to be

572
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 3: the person that has to call someone and tell them

573
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: that they love one never coming home, or be the

574
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 3: person that someone's calling and saying, my baby's not gonna

575
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: walk again or have to make that decision that you

576
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: know is going to impact people in a way that

577
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: people aren't gonna be happy about. And what you see

578
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 3: in this movie also is that Baltimore obased sprinkle grit

579
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 3: that we have and that despite all the stuff that

580
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 3: we hear all these TV shows, there are so many

581
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 3: people that love our city. When you see Erica and

582
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 3: when you see all of the folks, Dante and everyone

583
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 3: out there doing that work, right, you see something that

584
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: you won't get to see because most people aren't going

585
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 3: to be out there with violence intervention workers, a safety's

586
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: workers and saying like, hey, yo, you got to do

587
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 3: you don't need to do this right. Most people are

588
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 3: not going to be out there blessing a space after

589
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: someone gets murdered. Right. Most people aren't going to be

590
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: sitting there getting those phone calls like I did, or

591
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: happen to fight to even start this program.

592
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 7: Right.

593
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 3: It's like you say, V I couldn't just do this

594
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 3: on my own because agencies from the state, right, and

595
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: we had a different governor. We didn't have Wes Moore

596
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: when this movie was being famed, Like I had to

597
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: convince our former governor to agree to do this. I

598
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 3: had to convince our federal partners at the congressional.

599
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 7: Level to agree to help us do this.

600
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Speaker 3: People don't get to see that, and they also don't

601
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 3: get to see like my raw emotion, like when things happened.

602
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 3: And this is one that's captured in the film that

603
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: you don't see from my standpoint as much as you

604
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 3: do from Ericas. But our brother Tata Boxton was murdered

605
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: doing the filming.

606
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 7: Of this movie.

607
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: And people will see me that day on the news talking,

608
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 3: but they don't know, Like most people don't know how

609
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: close Tata and I are. They're gonna know now in

610
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: this video in this movie when they see me and

611
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 3: him walking around these neighborhoods together. They don't know that.

612
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 3: Like it took a lot for me to even go

613
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 3: out and talk to the press that day because I

614
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 3: had to not be in that moment. I couldn't grieve,

615
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: I couldn't do any of the stuff that you do

616
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: when someone that close to you is murdered. Because now

617
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: I got to go and show a strong, strong standpoint

618
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: for the city, and people will be able to see

619
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: that and also see that there's a different approach to

620
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: dealing with violence that's working, and we have to spread

621
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: it across. I think the thing that I've been most

622
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: proud of with the film is that two months ago

623
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: President Biden and Vice President Harris had a executive order

624
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: sign it at the White House and after that Maya's

625
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: from around the country stay to watch the film. Never

626
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: in my wildest dream that I think little Brandon from

627
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: Parkston and Cole Spring would be at the White House

628
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: first right there, more time than I ever thought I

629
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: could imagine in the last four years, but two that

630
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 3: they will be watching a movie about me and about

631
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: Baltimore and it be something positive. But that's what this

632
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: story is about. It's about hope, determination and what is

633
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 3: possible when people work together.

634
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it's really important.

635
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 6: I was really excited to come here, specifically because PBS

636
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 6: is not a place where our people gonna go and

637
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 6: know what the fuck is on PBS on Monday at

638
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 6: nine ten o'clock and I was like, so, the viewership,

639
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 6: the audience of the Breakfast Club, these are our people

640
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 6: impacted by violence live in this in even the people

641
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 6: doing the work around violence. That's the people that watch

642
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 6: that that followed us. And I was like, and we

643
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 6: got way till just come back from eternity.

644
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 4: Baltimore in the buildings.

645
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 3: Today, sleep come better.

646
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 4: To me.

647
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 6: It's just it's important for people to feel seen in

648
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 6: their pain, like those of us who do the work

649
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 6: on the ground. There are people like us all over

650
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 6: this country because America is a place that believes in

651
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 6: power over instead of power with. It is a it

652
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 6: teaches that violence is the way you get power. And

653
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 6: so all cities like Baltimore are dealing with the same problem,

654
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 6: and they have people like us doing healing work, doing

655
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 6: intervention work, doing mediation work. But they people still look

656
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 6: at us and say what we should be doing, and

657
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 6: how come y'all not doing because.

658
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 4: They don't really see on it.

659
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 6: They only see us on TV or happen to maybe

660
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 6: see us in the street, but they don't even if

661
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 6: with my pain in grief was public around Tata different

662
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Speaker 6: from what Brandon did. I was all over the national

663
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Speaker 6: news crying about it. But people still will circle back

664
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 6: and go, well, then y'all should be doing this, that

665
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 6: and the third. But you not really doing nothing except

666
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 6: being whatever you are, which.

667
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Speaker 4: Be in the comment.

668
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 6: Some people just cheerleaders, some people just hey, does the

669
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Speaker 6: remind me who I want to be. That's fine too,

670
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 6: but people, it's important for people to see what it

671
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 6: is like, what you actually as a human go through

672
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 6: when you decide I'm going to have an intimate relationship

673
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 6: with violence and murder because I'm working to heal it

674
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 6: in the world and people need to be seen about

675
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 6: that work and about their trauma and about how they

676
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 6: lost people and it's not just them that's going through it,

677
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 6: and that people really love them and people really want

678
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 6: Baltimore to win. That's something I have learned. We've traveled

679
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 6: around the world with this film. It premiered in London,

680
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 6: as you know.

681
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, that's why.

682
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 4: Make it to London.

683
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 6: That's a whole different conversation. But the news lite about

684
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 6: what he was doing and why he didn't make it.

685
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 6: But that's a different conversation. But we've been to the Netherlands,

686
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 6: We've been like this film has literally been saying around

687
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 6: the world in Africa, like it's been seen everywhere, and

688
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 6: just like you're saying that things that people in Baltimore

689
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 6: are gonna watch it and.

690
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 4: Go yo, I didn't even know that about us.

691
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 6: Beautiful things people around the world got to say that

692
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 6: about us, and which made me say to them that

693
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 6: means it's neighborhoods right here where you live that you're

694
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 6: judging the fuck out of and you're saying it's something

695
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 6: wrong with them instead of asking what happened to them

696
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 6: and how do you benefit off of the systems that's

697
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 6: doing whatever it is doing to them. So, yeah, support

698
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 6: our work in Baltimore, absolutely, but it's probably stuff happening

699
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 6: right here where you live that you need to be

700
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 6: looking at differently, and you need to be supporting the

701
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Speaker 6: word getting done right here where you live, and.

702
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Speaker 2: You check it out on Yes, yeah, I'm about to say,

703
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Speaker 2: but I want to remind people check it out Monday

704
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Speaker 2: on PBS. What time Monday.

705
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: It's coming on ten pm on Monday, But you can

706
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: stream it on PBS right right during and whatever, and

707
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: then it'll come to some stringing.

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Speaker 6: Streaming and people should check their local listens because you

709
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Speaker 6: know pbsd Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Depending.

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Speaker 3: The film has the instagram is at the Body Politic film.

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Speaker 2: Yes, definitely go check it out. I just have one

713
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: last question. You know you were talking about you said

714
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Speaker 2: that you know you were meeting with Biden and Kamala Harris.

715
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Speaker 2: You will know So now that Trump will be in

716
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Speaker 2: office in January.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna just move back from the how have you

718
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Speaker 6: had conversations with his administration as yet or even spoken

719
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Speaker 6: to him yet?

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Speaker 2: And how do you plan on, you know, focusing on that,

721
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Speaker 2: because I mean, I don't think Trump is really going

722
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: to care about the NCA these too much, you know,

723
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Speaker 2: areas like Baltimore.

724
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Speaker 4: Detroit, Baltimore. He's mad, He's made it.

725
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Speaker 2: No, it's gonna be a lot more difficult to get

726
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: funding and to make sure that you got the budget.

727
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: You need to make sure that your city is clean

728
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: and clear and good. So how do.

729
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: You Yeah, we were buckling down right, and I think

730
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: that this is the reality, and this was the message

731
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: that I was delivering all over the country to folks

732
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: right because I was in that first meeting Envy with

733
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Speaker 3: the President and Vice president where.

734
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Speaker 7: We talked to them before Oprah hit the street about.

735
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Speaker 3: We need to be able to use this stuff to

736
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: help community violence intervention and focusing as oncome violence as

737
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Speaker 3: a public health issue. We didn't think in our wildest

738
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Speaker 3: dreams that the President would go out and say it

739
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Speaker 3: right then and there, but he did and then allowed

740
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Speaker 3: us to do that work. We put fifty million dollars

741
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Speaker 3: of our offer money into community violence intervention. Now we

742
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: don't know, none of us know what the Trump administration

743
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: is going to look like for our cities. But if

744
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: they are going to care carry out the things that

745
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 3: they said, we know it doesn't look good for us.

746
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: So we have already been working because we know that

747
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 3: offering these other stuff we're going to end to how

748
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Speaker 3: do we now institutionalize these things within city government working

749
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Speaker 3: with our state government. We're blessed in Maryland to have

750
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Speaker 3: a governor Wes Moore. We're now blessed. We're going to

751
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: continue to have the best congressional delegation with the now

752
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Speaker 3: with the addition of Senator Angela also Brooks.

753
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Speaker 7: So if folks of black people.

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Speaker 3: In particular are living in a in a city or

755
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 3: a state and they feel like their rights are being

756
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: in friends, come to Maryland, aka come to death row Right.

757
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: If you don't want your governor telling you what books

758
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: you can't read, and if you don't want to you

759
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 3: want to live in a state where women's bodies can

760
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: be protected, come to Maryland. If you want to come to.

761
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Speaker 7: A place where black people will be respected.

762
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Speaker 3: Come to Maryland. But that aside, I think that what

763
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: we're going to do is we're gonna knuckle down. We're

764
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: going to be working with our philanthropic partners, and that's

765
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Speaker 3: the key on how we set this up. It wasn't

766
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Speaker 3: just a city funding it. It wasn't just a fa

767
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Speaker 3: It's funding. It wasn't just the state. We had our

768
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Speaker 3: philanthropic partners, all of us together, and now we just

769
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Speaker 3: have to wait and see. My hope is that the

770
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Speaker 3: new administration sees like, oh, this city has been having

771
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Speaker 3: tremendous reductions in violence, right, why would they come and

772
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Speaker 3: disrupt that. We hope that that can can continue. We

773
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: hope that our congressional delegation is still like they are today,

774
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 3: being able to make choices about what things they get

775
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Speaker 3: funded in their local districts, and if not, we're just

776
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 3: going to have to work around it and do it ourselves.

777
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Speaker 7: Right, That's what we have to do, because.

778
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Speaker 3: This work has to continue not just in Baltimore, but

779
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Speaker 3: in Newark, in Saint Louis and Chicago, everywhere else in

780
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: the country because we know that violence is going down

781
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 3: and our inner city. So we just have to do

782
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Speaker 3: that work and buckle down.

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Speaker 5: I got one more thing to say.

784
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Speaker 6: So after the election branding, you said, this country does

785
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Speaker 6: not deserve black woks.

786
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Speaker 5: It doesn't, Okay, I want.

787
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Speaker 6: You to to what do you think that we need?

788
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Speaker 6: I want you to expand on that, like.

789
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 3: Well, we can be here all day. I think when

790
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: I said that and people are like, oh, that's a

791
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 3: great speech, I was like, well, my staff will tell

792
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: you that they had no idea without what I was

793
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 3: going to say when I went out there. It was

794
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: just the response. But I think there's a couple of things.

795
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Speaker 3: Right when we think about and people can say what

796
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: they want, right when we think about the election that

797
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 3: we just went through. We went through election with the

798
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 3: most qualified person to ever run for this position, was

799
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 3: the most disrespect that Canada ever ran the best campaign

800
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Speaker 3: that I've ever seen. And I've been around a lot

801
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 3: of campaigns, right, and yes that and yes that includes

802
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: President Obama's and that we love him forever. You know,

803
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 3: I love your president. But this, when you look at

804
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: that and you look at the focus and the things

805
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: that people focused on, it's very clear that this country

806
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: still has a big problem with black people and with women,

807
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: and unfortunately my vice president, your vice president, it was

808
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: both of them, because this wasn't for many people about

809
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: policy right. Folks voted against their best interest, which is insane,

810
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: but it happens all the time. We have to have

811
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: real and honest conversations about what it means to allow

812
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: people to be treated the way they should be treated

813
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: you and not be disrespected the way they should be disrespected.

814
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Speaker 3: And I always say this up to people like me

815
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: in my position, like I said that day to call

816
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: things says they are right, and people are like, oh,

817
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: you're putting yourself at risk, You're making yourself a target,

818
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 3: Like I'm already a target any I'm already at risk,

819
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: And what are they going to do to me that

820
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: they didn't do to my ancestors. The reality is too

821
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 3: many people that look like me fought and died for

822
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Speaker 3: me to be even able to sniff a position like this,

823
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: for me to sit by and allow someone who was

824
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: as qualified as talked about, but also who personally did

825
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: so much for me in my city to just be

826
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Speaker 3: treated like that and not say it right. I think

827
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Speaker 3: that I owe that to her as a black man,

828
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Speaker 3: as a son and grandson of black women, but as

829
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Speaker 3: the husband to a Belasian wife just like she's a

830
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Speaker 3: Blazian Ablasian American as well. I owe that to them,

831
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Speaker 3: but I also owe that to my ancestors and for

832
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 3: me to continue to stand on what we know it's

833
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 3: right and call it out. And we know that right,

834
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 3: we can if you just look at what they say

835
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 3: about her every time she opens the mouth, and then

836
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: other folks can just say stuff you be like really really,

837
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Speaker 3: I mean, look y'all, Linda McMahon is about the leader

838
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 3: Department of Education, right, and we're talking about she wasn't

839
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 3: qualified for the job. Come on though, Like, we know

840
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: what it is, and folks have to call it out

841
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 3: and stop being scared to do so, because that's how

842
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: these folks get so comfortable and continuing these things because

843
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 3: people are like, oh, yo, they're gonna take away my money.

844
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Speaker 3: They gonna yeah, money is fine, your position is fine,

845
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 3: that is fine, but like, what principles do you have?

846
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 3: What kind of world do you want to live in

847
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: where you can literally see that happen to this woman.

848
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: And also, look, let's be honest, the data doesn't align right.

849
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Speaker 3: We have to remember and this is in particular, I

850
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 3: take this person too, because I also came into office

851
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: during the middle of the pandemic. Right when they came

852
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: into office, no one knew what the next week was

853
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 3: going to look like, let alone the next four years.

854
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 3: And when you think about it, in particular to black

855
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 3: folks and folks that listen and watch The Breakfast Club,

856
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: You've never seen more investment in the HBCUs, You've never

857
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: seen more small black business career. You've never seen a

858
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 3: lower level of black unemployment in this country. What else

859
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: do you want? Like this stuff takes time. She's not

860
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Speaker 3: going to just be there in four years during the

861
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Speaker 3: height of a pandemic and then like, oh, all these

862
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 3: things are the list that have existed in this country

863
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 3: since they brought the first one of us over here.

864
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: It's gonna go away. We have to stop holding ourselves

865
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: to this extreme high regard and taking Joe whatever the

866
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: rag man from other folks.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

868
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Speaker 2: Definitely check out the documentary this Monday ten PM. Check

869
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: your local listing on PBS.

870
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Speaker 3: And we appreciate you for joining us anytime.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you, who is the guy next

872
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 5: to you. He's a wise man in.

873
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Speaker 6: My opinion, who said it takes the village to raise

874
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 6: a child.

875
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Speaker 5: Uncle the village is.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Uncle Tim. He got in trouble.

877
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Speaker 6: I'm like, no, nah, when he said that, Brandon knew

878
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 6: he fucked. Like he says, envy, this was a whole

879
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 6: press conference. It takes the village the raise a child.

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Speaker 4: What if the village is.

881
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 5: Retarded, guest, I knew what he meant.

882
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: Just know what he meant he meant.

883
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 4: That's not the point.

884
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: Even you can see. I'm like, damn, you know.

885
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,959
Speaker 3: Yes. So we had another event a couple of weeks ago,

886
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 3: and Uncle teas about to ask quest. I said, Uncle T,

887
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 3: before you asked this question, he did, man, he had

888
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: talking points.

889
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: I said, if we asked the question.

890
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: The last time you asked me dad question, you got

891
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: me a lot and everybody just busted.

892
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: That's my man.

893
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: I love uncles a lot of work.

894
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 7: Saves a lot.

895
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 3: Of young people in East Baltimore. We love him very uncle.

896
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: He's forty plus forty.

897
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: You know, look them old black people, they're gonna say

898
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 3: what they mean what they said.

899
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 6: He got because he whipped the young people over every

900
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 6: single day helping us.

901
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 7: But I'll tell you something about Uncle T though.

902
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 3: This is this is how you know when and you'll

903
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 3: remember this. Remember this summer, we had this incident where

904
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: this young lady was shot and killed inside of the house.

905
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 3: Right uncle called me before the police commissioner called me

906
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 3: and him in the community. When I got there, they

907
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 3: were like, Brandon, this is who it is. So I

908
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: delivered the message to our folks. And then if you

909
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: watch the interview and Eric, everyone was online like your

910
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: brain is sitting the message and others don't know what

911
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: he's saying. I literally go out there and say, the

912
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: entire city is looking for you. Your best bet is

913
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: to turn yourself in.

914
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: He knew they.

915
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 3: Knew what I was saying. But that's the kind of

916
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: person And that's really what's happening with these communities, because

917
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 3: people ain't just gonna let somebody go in the house

918
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 3: and kill a little baby, and you think you just

919
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: going like, we'll go off about your business like na, yo.

920
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: They like people who are looking for you. And they

921
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 3: were able to say, I'm like, look y'all, chill, we'll

922
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 3: find him. Tell us who they told us, And we

923
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: were able to get him and put him where he belonged.

924
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 3: But I think that shows you the character of people

925
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 3: who know, like, no, we got to set a code

926
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 3: that like, no, whatever you got going on ain't got none.

927
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 7: To do with this little baby.

928
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: And that's the kind of thing that we have to

929
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: have and stop allowing. Like the thing that pisces me

930
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: off the most is if I go on the Internet

931
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: and see somebody that shot somebody mother or daughter or somebody,

932
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: and they be.

933
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 7: Like free free him. What Yeah, are you crazy?

934
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 3: Like yo, he killed somebody's child, right Like, I ain't

935
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: had nothing to do with their little city silly petty

936
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: beef because I think envy. One of the things and

937
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 3: just that people don't realize is that this ain't the

938
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 3: nineties people dying or regular beef thing dying whole amounts

939
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: of money like yeah, yo, disrespecting me or every other

940
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: day like dump Yeah I did say that one time,

941
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: damn the TV I did. Thanks Jess for reminding me.

942
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: Uh yo sent my yo, sent my girl a message

943
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 3: on Instagram? Like did she respond it?

944
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: Nature girl?

945
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: Bro?

946
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 8: Like like that's just how we go right Like, And

947
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 8: we got to get our folk, got to understand that

948
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 8: we gotta be better with each other in understanding how

949
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 8: to resolve conflict because we're gonna have conflict.

950
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 7: That's the human way.

951
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is is I know we

952
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: gotta go, but I think the biggest thing is social media.

953
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you why, right, because before, if that

954
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 2: was a situation, you send my girl a note, it's

955
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: just between me, you and my girl. Everybody, the embarrassment

956
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: is not there.

957
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: I can just walk away.

958
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: Now I'm embarrassed because now everybody, everybody feels like I

959
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: need my ego. The same thing as if you if

960
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: we get into a fist fight, right, yep, you beat

961
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: me up on and you know it's a couple of

962
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: people that see it. I go home.

963
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: It's people at the next block don't know social media,

964
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: and I know I can't beat you. So the next time,

965
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 3: I gotta bring the blak.

966
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: Correct, that's what Now it's all in the commed.

967
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: So now I got to prove myself from New York.

968
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: I understands, right, you got new.

969
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 1: Balances on these weatpants. You know.

970
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 6: I just want to say, because you brought up like

971
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 6: conflict in general, right, it really is a trap to

972
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 6: make us.

973
00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: It is.

974
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 6: I think that we there's no other choices like the

975
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 6: thing I have to do now because people don't understand, right,

976
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 6: they don't understand the brain science of it is. It's

977
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 6: just a moment in your brain telling your body run, fight, freeze.

978
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 6: You chose fight, But if you take that pause and

979
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 6: calm down, it's.

980
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: A lot of other options to you.

981
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 6: But you are being socialized to think these are the

982
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 6: only options because your humanity ain't worth shit, so these

983
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 6: you gotta act like an animal because you are an

984
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 6: animal and this is all you can do, when really

985
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 6: you got all of these other options, and we don't

986
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 6: get taught conflict management skills like conflict management didn't get

987
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 6: it doesn't get addressed, like the coronavirus.

988
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: I think also because we're just learning as it's going on.

989
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, you know because and anybody

990
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: will be a liar if they say it doesn't affect them.

991
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: The first time you read a negative comment about yourself,

992
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: it could have been one hundred positive comments, but that

993
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: one negative comment, those two negative common stuck with you,

994
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: and it's hard to feel like I'm gonna let it go.

995
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: It takes time to learn, and that's why Conversation car.

996
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 6: And there are all over this country organizations that teach

997
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 6: conflict management skills. We do that at the community Mediation

998
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 6: Center in Baltimore that teach mediation. So there's a safe

999
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 6: space to take all right, me and you say that

1000
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 6: ship to my face in a confidential space so we

1001
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 6: can really work it out right. And there are organizations

1002
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 6: doing that work all over, but they have to be

1003
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 6: uplifted as much as to keep that same energy shit

1004
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 6: is to recognize that it is intentionally trying to make

1005
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 6: our demise just a real And.

1006
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: The last thing I'll say, I say to see the

1007
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: kids all the time too, right, and we have to

1008
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: understand like who's programming. I got to ask this by

1009
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 3: a kid in a school last year. It's like, mister man,

1010
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 3: every time I go on Instagram or TikTok, it's trying

1011
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 3: to show me fight videos. I don't watch fight videos.

1012
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, but people in your class other people do,

1013
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: and they think that people like you algis are a real thing.

1014
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 3: Perfect example, this is a true story. A young lady

1015
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: that works for me one of it set up a

1016
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 3: TikTok account, Like I'm not downloading TikTok. You can do

1017
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 3: what you want, but she was like, well, we want

1018
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: the algorithm to be right. So you sit here while

1019
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: I picked the things She's like, what are you interested now?

1020
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: Like sports, babies, politics, weather, nature, right cities. Assuming she

1021
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 3: goes in there because it puts in my age right

1022
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: and all my information and where I live. All they

1023
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: wanted to show me was ass videos.

1024
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: She's looking at it like, what.

1025
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: We have to understand that and really figure out ways

1026
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 3: to unplug ourselves from that. But thank you all for

1027
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: having me.

1028
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 6: Thank you both and Scott Erica.

1029
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Speaker 2: Make sure you check out the documentary this Monday, ten

1030
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,479
Speaker 2: o'clock on People.

1031
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Speaker 6: Yes so much, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's The Breakfast Club. Good Morning Wakes Up in the Morning,

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club