WEBVTT - Mr. Dolph Lundgren 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:12.760 Miss Spelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:19.720 Hi, Hello, how are you good? Good? 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:24.319 Thanks? I'm in Sweden actually visiting. This is extremely red 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:25.599 room here that I'm in. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:27.880 I like the red room. 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:30.600 Yeah. 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:31.960 Are you and your wife there? 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:38.120 Yes? Yeah? Vacation business, vacation mostly got a little business, 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:43.440 but most of vacation visit. My daughter's uh one lives 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:48.080 in Spain, in Greece with her boyfriend in Athens. We're 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.080 going next week, and the other ones in Marbella. 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:56.280 My goodness, how did like the legendary dude of all dude, 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.640 like villain of all villain wind up with two daughters? 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:00.840 Boys? 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:06.680 You know what they call it? What fighter's curse? You 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:07.399 ever heard of that? 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:08.200 Now? 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:14.319 Fighter still lone. A few other friends of mine they 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.880 have daughters. They get daughters. It's like nature's trying to 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:25.479 balance your testosterone by taking your genes and carrying them 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:27.160 on in a female version. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.600 You know. Huh? Is that fighter's curse or just karma? 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.080 Fighter's curse? I think it may be karma. I mean, 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:38.920 I'm glad to have daughters because it's much easier. I 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:45.120 think it's more, more less complicated. I think between father's daughters. 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:49.920 Father's sons can be can get complex they try to 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.880 live up to something, especially if you're a you know, 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.360 an action action start in a movie. Then you know, 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.080 your son can can have a hard time maybe, But 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:03.320 for daughters, it's just kind of pure, pure, more pure love. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.760 I think in the attraction, you know, are they daddy's girls? 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.400 I think so you're all girls daddy's girls? Do you 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.839 think everybody? Uh? 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.960 I would hope. So. I mean, look, if you have 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:26.120 a healthy relationship in your you can't exist our daddy's girls. 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:30.680 But I mean, obviously you know that can be depending 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:34.040 on the daddy or the kid, mostly the father. If 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:36.920 you don't play your cards right, then you know you 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.320 could end up having a major conflict there too. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.519 Do you just say, daddy one more time? 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:42.680 Daddy? 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.760 Oh that was hot? Anyway, I digressed. 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:51.280 I'm such a fangirl, Like, oh my gosh, sorry, I'm 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:55.080 like a little fangirling right now because like the young 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:59.000 version of me, like in the eighties, I don't know, 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:03.360 like like the Rocky movies. I just remember, it wasn't 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.040 something I would be into, like you know, I like 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.040 chick flicks and rom coms and whatever they were called. 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.720 John Hughes movies back in the eighties, and I watched 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:16.480 them because my dad was so into them, and I 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.440 fell in love with them, Like I have seen every 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:24.920 single one multiple times on my own and for a 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.080 girl like I don't know, I would just cry and 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:32.280 I'd have crushes and I'd be like championing everyone, and 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:33.799 like I. 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.400 Had a bit of a crush on you because you 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:35.840 were blonde. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:37.880 I always died Mary a blonde boy because I wanted 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.640 a blonde boys because I'm not naturally blonde, and I 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:41.720 just want blonde kids. 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.920 But it looks good, Oh my hair. 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:46.560 Yeah it looks good. 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.160 Thanks doll, appreciate that. 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:56.560 Yeah, well, okay, Rocky movies' is, like I said, A 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.160 stallone said, you don't have to know anything about boxing 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.840 to enjoy movie because it's about life. It's about the 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.440 challenge of life. And I think some people are more 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.880 compelled by it because I think maybe they're more fighters 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:14.520 in their own life. Maybe they have that attitude fighters attitude, 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:19.640 and perhaps they're more they try to learn something from 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:20.240 those films. 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:26.200 You know, It's true. It just inspires you on any level. So, Mike, 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:30.839 I have five kids. They're eighteen seventeen, thirteen, twelve, and 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:35.360 eight and I have five kids. 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.440 Well you look great for five kids. I'll tell you. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:44.000 Oh thanks my bottom hat, but yeah, no thanks. It 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.239 definitely keeps me on my toes. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:52.520 I have three boys, two girls, and it's so wild. 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:53.280 They're all so. 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:58.919 Unique and it's just it's such a fun journey. But 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.880 I recently so I've been going back because my kids, 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.640 you know, with TikTok and YouTube, everything that was our 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:09.520 generation is now coming back in. You know, they see 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.080 the memes and the clips and they and they are 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:16.719 interested in our lives back then. What was you know, 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.880 good you know, good movies and TV to us. But 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:25.080 so my eight year old I just started him watching Rocky, 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.880 not because of this interview, just in general, because I 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.800 was like, oh my gosh, you would love this so much. 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.680 And they still stand up. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:34.680 They really do. 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.840 Like you know, my kids watch my show nine o 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.600 two and oh and they're like, oh, it's grainy, something's 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:41.560 wrong with the screen. 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.520 Oh it's really slow. 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:47.440 But you know Rocky, which is you know before nine 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.680 o two and oh in the eighties, Like it stands up. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:52.400 They love it. 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:58.080 Great. No, I think you're right. I think some some 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.719 in the movie, especially Rocky for some reason, because it 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.880 has the visual language was very, very kind of extreme, 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.359 and lighting and the way it's cut together with the 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:12.599 slow mo and the dissults and the free frames everything 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.480 the way it was done, it kind of holds up 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:20.279 pretty well, I think. And also I believe, you know, 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.240 when I think back in my life, I was interested 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.599 in movies that were made before I was born, too, 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:30.120 Like what did I my dad what he used to watch? 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.839 I used to be kind of fascinated by that, So, 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:35.719 you know. At the same time, I'm sure your kids 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.159 we're kind of interested in the time that you grew 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.080 up when you were young, because it's that heritage, you know, 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.280 And I think maybe that's part of it. 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:48.480 Too, definitely, But they think I'm old. 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.400 Like my eight year old asked me the other day, 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.880 did they have Chucky cheeses back. 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:55.360 In your day? 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:57.839 Like rocket my day? 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:02.320 I'm like yes, and he's like, really, so it's been 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.480 around a really long time, like it's old. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:09.440 I'm like, well, that's life, isn't it. How it'll all change, 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:14.200 I mean, the perspective changes. Like I was even today, 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:17.400 I was talking to somebody about the fact that you know, 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:21.400 when I was a kid. I remember there was an 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.960 anniversary for the end of World War Two. I think 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:29.720 it was twenty five year anniversary. And that's like something 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:33.559 that ended in two thousands now, so that's how close 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.240 it was. Like two thousand doesn't seem that long ago. 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.560 But when I was a kid, and I remember people 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.480 were watching on TV and everybody were in Normandy and 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.400 all that, and of course it was only twenty five 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.600 years ago, it was like around the corner. But you know, 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:49.720 for a kid, it seems like ages ago. 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.400 It seems ages ago. I know there's that thing where 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:58.000 it's like it all went so fast, but it all 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.360 went so slow. It's like, really, I don't know, it's 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:05.200 that thing. I think it's different for women than men aging, 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:09.040 especially in the in the spotlight as actors. 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:15.640 I mean, you look the same, like you don't age. 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.640 Not really, but no, but I think, let. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.360 Me see them again. Wait, I just want to see 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.040 them up close and personal. Oh, there they are. 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:23.960 So do you. 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:29.600 Ensure your biceps? What have you ensured your bic No? 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:33.320 I didn't actually a good idea flunger and why, I'll 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:34.040 think about it. 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:35.000 I'll get on that. 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:39.040 I intend to keep them where they are, But yeah, 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:43.600 I think that for women with some women age really well, 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:47.440 and uh, you know, it takes an effort. You probably 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:51.120 know it takes effort and takes dedication to take care 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:52.760 of yourself as you get older. I mean, a lot 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.800 of people let themselves go. And if you don't, if 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.520 you're a little more focused, then you can stay young 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:03.760 as a man or a woman. You know, I'm just 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:08.439 thinking of I did a movie called Aquaman and Nicole 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:12.200 Kidman's in it, and you know, she looks you know, 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.880 she always looks good on film, but when you see 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.000 her in person, she looks great too, and she's like, 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.679 you know, I mean, she's not as old as I am, 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.400 bit close, so, you know, and I was impressed by 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.280 the fact that she looked very fit, and she looked 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.199 very very youthful, even the way she carries herself. 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:30.640 You know, what's her secret? 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:31.920 My secret? 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:36.880 Not your secret, Nicole Kidman, her secrets? What do you think? 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:41.760 I don't know. I'm not sure where her secret is. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.040 Yeah, you're you're like one of the smartest men alive. 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:46.120 You must know. 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:50.400 There's some engineering going on scientifically, Like what is it? 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.120 Some of it's genetics, I think some of it is 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:57.520 is training and diect and the other one is probably 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.200 staying youthful in your mind. You know, if you're an actor, 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:06.280 usually being creative, you work with younger people, you're you know, 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:11.240 you're playful, you have fun, you enjoy the moment, and 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:13.240 you don't get caught up in the past too much. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.480 So I think those things help, you know. 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:21.000 That's true. Yeah, I feel like she's a free spirit. 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.960 She's Yeah, she's in everything every movie. 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.839 I know, I know, I know, it's crazy wild. When 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.360 I worked with her on I Can on the On 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.960 the sequel, she came. We did as we have to 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.480 reshoot a scene and shot on the stage at Warner 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:42.080 Brothers in La and I was tired. I've had some 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.959 surgery on my ankles, so I came in on crutches. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.320 But you know, of course she can't just prop me 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.280 up and shoot this part. But she had, she had 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:55.520 done it. Came straight from somewhere Australia, I guess, and 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.680 did a night shoot and had worked two nights in 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:02.440 a row, and she came straight from shooting Knights onto 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:08.640 this set. It's like, man, that's that's rough. You know. 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.400 I wouldn't I would try to avoid that. If it 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.160 was me, I wouldn't do it that way. But I 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:15.640 guess she loves she loves working. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:17.400 You know, women are warriors. 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:27.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah were you. 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.560 Were you a fan of the Rocky franchise before Rocky four? 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.240 I was, Yeah, I watched the First Rocky. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.920 I came over on you didn't sell that for real? 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:42.360 Yeah, I came over here to America. Sorry, I'm Sweedena, 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:46.520 but I came to America as an student when I 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:52.880 was eighteen, and I went to watch Rocky the First 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.640 Rocky in the theater. And this is right after that 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:02.720 I ran hostage crisis. You remember, America was kind of 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:07.560 not very patriotic. It was a kind of a low 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:12.280 period in the country's self esteem, I would say after 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.640 the Vietnam War ended, and that was in seventy five 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:17.520 and ended. It was like a year or two later, 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:19.679 and the movie came out, and that was in the 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.640 theater and I still remember how people are cheering, and 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.640 it was you know, the Rocky. The First Rocky was 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.400 came out during the bicentennial celebrations right nineteen seventy six, 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.800 I believe, so, you know, it was a big, kind 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:34.520 of a big moment. I was a fan of that. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:38.760 Then Rocky three I watched when I was in Australia 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.760 on a scholarship studying engineering. I was there and I 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:45.960 was fighting karate championships and I listened to some of 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.840 the Iva Tiger some of the music getting ready for 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:52.679 my fight, and little did I know I was going 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:54.280 to be in the next one. But you know, only 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:56.439 three years later, So it was kind of. 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.319 Bizarre that happened so wild. 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:05.120 I mean, I know there it's like bittersweet, like because 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.160 we want to talk about it because it's what made 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.880 us made our careers. But sometimes it's like, do you 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:15.040 feel like you ever get tired of talking about Rocky. 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.920 Usually it's a load of question. I could have worded 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:20.240 it better, you know. 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.520 No, sometimes I get a little tired of it, but 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:30.080 not really. I mean I appreciate the people, you know, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:37.400 being the adoration or the fanboys and girls and people 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:43.000 you know liking my work and as that character. I yeah, 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.240 I don't mind. I mean I think that, you know, 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.000 I've done a lot of other things. Some people prefer 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:49.880 the Masters of the Universe, or. 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:53.480 Maybe you know you're he Man, like come on, he. 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:57.760 Man, or if they're like Aquaman if they're younger people, 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:01.240 they younger kids, they maybe seen Aquaman or some But 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:05.360 I also believe that first time you come on screen, 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.320 especially if you're unknown, and when people see you the 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:12.960 first time, whether it's Stallone as Rocky or Arnold as 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.920 Conan and people, it just kind of gets burnt into 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:20.640 your consciousness as the moviegoer, because especially in those days, 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.800 it was the big screen, and you know, you really 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.720 believe that person's character existed, and it's it's hard to 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.760 get over that. So I don't I understand why it's 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:31.200 like that. 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:36.000 You know, absolutely, did you speak English when you first 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:37.880 came to America. 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.440 I spoke a little bit. I came to study engineering 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.560 when I was eighteen. Then I went back to Sweden 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:49.240 and I came back again, studied twice. I came back 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.560 studied more engineering. 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.320 And scholarship MIT right, Yeah, I. 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:57.880 Was MIT towards the end. So I spoke English. 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:02.440 But if you had gone that route, what if. 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.480 I would have been I would have been a different life. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:10.240 I would have I don't know, shaking test tubes. I 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:14.120 would probably been running an oil company or something. I 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:19.840 had kind of ideas of doing the master's in Business 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:25.520 administration and then running becoming a company corporate guy or 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:31.080 a CEO or something. And I'm kind of doing it 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:34.680 now in a roundabout way with this liquor company I have. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:39.040 But you know, I think I would have missed out. 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:40.720 I don't think I would have been happy. I had 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:44.200 a lot of traumas in my childhood, a lot of 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:48.520 issues to deal with, and I think acting was a 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.840 way for me to express that. And so much martial arts, 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:53.800 but acting was the better way to do it. 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.080 Wow, you in a suit? 0:15:56.120 --> 0:16:00.520 Oh my gosh, every day I can picture it. 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.760 So was your first movie? View to a Kill? 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:05.040 Yeah? 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:06.880 I love that movie? 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:07.640 Yeah? 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.400 You two favorite James Bond movie. 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:15.640 Yeah, Roger Moore, Christopher walk and Grace Jones was in 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.600 it and I was dating her at the time. And 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.880 you know, I was there hanging out on set and 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:25.080 some guy didn't show up for work and they kind 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.680 of looked around to find the replacement for a guy 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.080 to just play a bodyguard, and I look the part. 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.880 So I got that role. I was in it for 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:37.120 like twenty seconds with Grace and Chris. Chris walkin and 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.880 I met him. He was very nice, very nice and interesting. 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.640 You know, watched his acting and I'd started some acting 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.320 at the time too, so I was watching him as 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:50.920 he was preparing and and how he kind of would 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:56.840 change his attitude, you know, from the rehearsal, and then 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.680 he would totally do one eighty and all the other 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.000 actors was shocked. I didn't know how to respond to me. 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:03.280 Really, I've never heard that. 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.919 Yeah, yeah he did. He would. He never would the 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:12.080 way I saw it, anyway, he wouldn't. He didn't really 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.200 give much in the rehearsal and he didn't know what 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.480 was going to happen. But you know, when the cameras 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.639 came on, he would have all kinds of impulses and 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:24.600 it was very interesting, like very very very explosive. You know, 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.280 his acting is very unpredictable. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.600 You know that is so cool. Oh my gosh. 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:35.520 You and Grace Jones were such an iconic couple. You were, 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.320 and it's interesting when I think of the two of you, 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:41.520 like I have a visual in my mind of the 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:45.240 two of you and like a paparazzi and it's fashion. 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.679 I think fashion, when when I think the two of you, 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:48.800 is that weird? 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:54.080 No, I think you're right. She was obviously always very 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:57.520 fashionably dressed, and she helped me. You know, I met 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.679 different designers and I would get stuff them like Brisa 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.399 she would make me a jacket, or Kenzo would do 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.640 something or you know, I wore a lot of Milano 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.720 Blanic and hadman's shoes too in those days. I don't 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.800 know if they did still do, but yeah, it was 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.359 very fashionable. Plus we were always in a cool place 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:19.520 at fifty four Area, and the photography in those days 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:24.680 was also you know, even the paparazzis they had had 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:27.600 talent and made of stuff looked really cool. Yeah right, 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.800 you know, And yeah, so it has like a fashion 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.679 sense to it. And I think the fact that she 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:37.360 was dark and I was blonde, and there's like there's 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:41.320 some kind of graphic kind of statement there that that 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:42.760 also looks fashionable. 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.639 Oh my gosh, imagine the two of you a couple 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:50.240 present day. Your age is back then, but now out 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.280 like paparazzi all over you guys. 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.840 It would be in social media, social media. I mean, 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:58.240 it'd be a whole different ballgame. It'd be wild. 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:01.679 Yeah, you're right, yeah, it would be. It was. It 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:06.040 was unusual and even before I was in the movies, 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.760 I you know, I was with her and we went 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.560 to fifty four in these places and people did. 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:13.640 Study of fifty four. 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:18.119 My gosh, yeah, yeah, it was do you ever get 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:21.080 a lime light? Oh yeah, I worked there. It was 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:27.080 a dark yeah. Asia bouncer in the front there, and 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:34.000 Charles Palmieri another actor he was, he was in the back. Yeah, 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:37.080 this is it was that period. You know they say 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.679 when I first came, I came to New York eighty 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:43.680 to eighty three. So there was the period where it's 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.919 right for age. So it's like they say, the period 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:52.359 between what is it the invention of the pill and age? 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:56.119 There is a period where you know, the nightlife was 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.720 kind of wild and people weren't didn't have any inhibitions. 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:03.480 There were no there were no iPhones. There were you know, 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:05.879 if you went to a club, they weren't gonna have 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:08.479 some photographers run around and take pictures of Mick Jagger 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:13.240 or anybody you know doing anything illegal. It was never 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:15.520 going to get out and if you try to sell 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:19.160 it to some magazine, they wouldn't buy it anyway. But 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:22.679 you know, it slowly all of that changed. So when I 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:24.560 went out to a club, you know, Prince would be 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:28.200 there and Michael Jackson whoever was, and you know, people 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:32.760 were like relaxed and they could be be themselves, you know, 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:36.720 which now only maybe in a private party with that happened, 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:38.760 but I don't think would happen in the club anymore. 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:44.120 Which female celebrities hit on you and you think like, hmm, 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:45.960 maybe I should have gone out with them. 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:50.440 Back in the day. Oh all of them? 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:57.600 All of them. Who did I run into? Well, Iman 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.760 was kind of cute. She was a friend of Grace's. 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:03.439 Kind of cute, hot hot. 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:08.840 There was I ran into, uh, I remember I ran 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:14.560 into reck Well, Well some party she was, but she 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:16.800 must have been I thought about it. She you know, 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:19.879 probably wasn't more than like late thirties or maybe forty 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:22.960 or something now, but she was quite hot, and. 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:25.080 You were just a young buck I. 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:32.760 Was, Yeah, I was. But well, models around, you know, 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:38.199 a lot of models. Was that Chracy Grillo had. She 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.920 had a sister was a model. I'm trying to remember 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.080 her name though. Anyway, Well, there were a. 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:46.320 Few, Oh my god, the eighties that was like the 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:48.359 most iconic time for models. 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:54.639 Like, yeah, you're right, because the models were were sexyre 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:59.280 they looked more feminine, They weren't this kind of they 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:04.840 still the started that kind of what's it called, like 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:14.120 metrosexual or like andrown and drogens looks more. 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:14.959 And now obscure is in. 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:22.600 Yeah Knowmi Campbell and uh, you know Cindy Crawford and 0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:24.840 Linda Evangelista, all this girls. 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:29.040 Oh my gosh, imagine you with Claudia Schiffer. It would 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:35.159 have been Ken and Barbie machine version like the version. 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:39.199 Yeah, And I was lucky you got to work with 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:43.359 the photographers, you know, like her Ritz and Helma Newton 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:45.920 and Greg Gorman, all of those guys. You know. 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:50.720 Andy Warhol, Anie World. 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:54.960 Yeah, he took some of my first pictures with Andy Warhold. 0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:59.119 He he just had his knack of picking finding people 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:03.320 that had even I wouldn't say talent, but had some 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:06.359 something an X factor. Like he picked me out in 0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:10.480 the club. Yeah. Grace wasn't even there. He was just 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:13.800 I just saw this little guy with white hair come 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:16.639 up to me and go, Hi, what are you famous for? 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.959 And I'm like, nothing as far as I know. And 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:22.560 he's like, took a picture of me, and they said, 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:24.280 I want to put you in my magazine. And then 0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:26.639 Grace showed up and I realized it was Andy Worrel 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:31.159 and then we ended up doing a spread for for 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:32.880 Interview magazine. 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:36.760 Which is fun iconic. I want to see that photo. 0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:40.760 Yeah, I don't know what happened to it. I think 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.600 it was in his instamatic, but we did do a 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:49.480 shoot with and and Andrew Watson were Interview. And then 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:55.080 also he had this other buddy, Chris macOS, who's a 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:58.879 great photographer. And I don't know if I think Grace 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.520 told me or I found out later, because I remember 0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:04.639 going to the photo shooting and it was always like, 0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:09.399 uh okay, you know, wearing a T shirt. And then 0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:11.840 it would be like, hey, what if we do some 0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:16.720 pictures without the T shirt? You know? Uh okay, hey 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:19.840 what if you just down to like underwear, you know, 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.440 with that look? And then you know, I found out 0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:27.040 that there was some kind of bets between him and 0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:30.240 Andy about how much if there was a guy coming in, 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:34.920 how much would they remove, you know, and and some 0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:39.520 something like and then sort of reporting on the on 0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:42.320 the on the guy's talents, if you know what I mean. 0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:47.399 So of course Grace showed up at some point in 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:50.119 the fur coats, you know, to stop, you know, she 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:56.320 got stops. It was like, no, stop that. So, I 0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:58.680 you know, it was tough when you were a kid, 0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:01.960 and it's nice boy, you didn't really understand what was 0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:05.000 going on. I mean I didn't really had no experience. 0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:08.480 I didn't. I didn't really I didn't get it, you know, 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.200 but it took me a while to figure it out. 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.600 And Grace Jones was sorry, I'll move on for a second, 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:16.280 but this is just so iconic to me. 0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:16.880 Sorry. 0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:20.879 I mean, she was known for pushing the envelope fashion wise, 0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:24.280 and she gorgeous, stunning. 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:25.439 How tall was she? 0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:30.240 Probably as tall as people think the shows were these, 0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:34.240 you know amze, I mean nice stiletto heels, but five 0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:37.400 maybe five nine or something, so she wasn't short, but you. 0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:42.560 Know, okay, but she definitely dressed provocative. Lee, she was 0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:48.440 provocative and stirred things up, which was so groundbreaking. Did 0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.320 you ever feel jealous going out like the men were 0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:52.840 staring at her? 0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:56.280 Yeah, I was a little bit jealous in the beginning, 0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.800 Like I knew she had you know, she had a 0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:04.240 with this French guy who she hadn't been married to, 0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:06.720 but she he was the father of the son, and 0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:12.000 I think, yeah, there was some I realized some of 0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.560 the men we ran into it. Probably she had made 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:16.280 it had an a fairway, whether you can kind of 0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.240 feel the energy or I wasn't that. I'm not a 0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.160 jealous person. I wasn't that jealous, but I did think 0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:27.080 that I did. I think at some point I think 0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:30.360 I can't kind of I ran into some of us 0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.760 going through a drawer at her house or something, and 0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:36.439 ran into some polaroids, you know, and I was like, oh, okay, 0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:43.200 a little bit explicit, but you know, it wasn't that bad. 0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:47.800 It was it was a crazy time. I didn't you know, no, 0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:51.399 I mean she wasn't jealous either, so it was it 0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:55.040 was fine. I think we were pretty secure in each other. 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.919 You know, Yeah, the two hottest people ever. Like, gosh, 0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:09.359 what a while time. I can't believe you have three 0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:12.320 point three million followers on Instagram. 0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:16.200 Okay, I think I do, yeah something like that. 0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.280 What well, how do you do it? Give me? 0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:25.240 I don't know. I don't really meet social media. It's 0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:27.280 just a little bit of an annoying thing. I gotta 0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:31.639 do do some for you know, lifetimes of contracts. You 0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:34.840 have to have so many posts, and now with this 0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:38.120 Flicker brand I have, you know, you got to keep 0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:40.159 up with social media, but I don't really like it 0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.680 that much. I'm not a big fan of it. I 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:46.280 hate to post pictures of myself, but you know, my 0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:50.480 wife helps me, and I don't know. I think it's 0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:56.400 a it's a necessary evil. Now. Yeah, so I can 0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:59.040 see where you know, there were in the old days 0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:03.080 some actors ever did publicity and it kind of would 0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.160 make them mysterious, you know, and I wish I could 0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:07.479 do that, but I just I don't know. 0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.480 It's just I agree. 0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:13.960 Yeah, it's like double sided, like it's evil and it's great. 0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:18.480 And I used to love looking at actors and wondering, like, 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:20.800 what is it like behind the scenes, what is their 0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:24.040 personal life like? And we never saw it, We never knew, 0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.119 you know, they would do publicity, do interviews. It was 0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:30.719 media trained. And now, you know, the thing is, the 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:34.240 more real and authentic you are, you can connect with everyone, 0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.440 so everyone knows almost too much about you. 0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.120 Yeah, I mean it sort of suits me because I 0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:44.760 like to I'm not you know, I don't have anything 0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.520 to hide. I can be open with my fans and 0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:51.360 talk about my private life or whatever anything happens to me. 0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:54.520 But I do agree with you that there was a 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:58.800 time where say a real fine actor like Robert de 0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:02.560 Niro or Pacino, you can never They never did any 0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:06.840 They hardly did any press, so you never really knew that. 0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.920 You never saw them except for the when they played 0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:13.440 a character. So it made you want to pay ten 0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:15.760 dollars whatever cost to see them in the theater. 0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:20.120 Well, like I remember, it was ten dollars, was it? 0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:23.080 It was it five? I don't know about ten. I think, well, 0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:26.560 Jack Nichol said, I read about him. He did his 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:31.440 last interview or talk shows in I think in the 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:37.040 eighties or seventies, even I he just decided it's some point, yeah, 0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:40.160 I think. So if you check on him, you'll find 0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.920 very few interviews I think when he's talking about his 0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:46.040 work or his characters or you know, you know. I 0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.360 don't think he's ever been on I don't know if 0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:52.840 he's been on Letterman or you you know, not much. 0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:56.800 I think it kind of keeps a certain mystery there, 0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.360 and I think they maybe there will be some kind 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.880 of maybe I'll come back to that. I don't know, 0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:10.520 because I saw this interview with Johnny Depp, you know, 0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:14.080 on on on I think it was a Letterman or 0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.360 but anyway, he was talking to the letterman. You know, 0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:21.480 he's very funny and interviews he just answers one word 0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:25.320 right for two words. But he's very very clever and charming. 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.960 But he did say that he did a move because 0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:31.240 let him and ask him about Brando working with Marlon 0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:35.080 Brando and and he said that he did a picture 0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:41.360 with him. It's it called don't doing one anyway if 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:46.640 the movie did. Yeah, And then Brando had asked him 0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.640 at some point, you know, like when they were having lunch, 0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.920 like how many movies do do a year or something? 0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:58.000 And then and he said that two or three whatever, Branza, 0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.480 there's too many. You know, it's says you only have 0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:04.320 so many characters in new closet or whatever. He had 0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.960 some funny word. But I always thought about that, and 0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:12.760 it's like, yeah, I mean, how much effort can you 0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:17.840 put into the great performers it obviously that's another thing 0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:18.680 that happened back in. 0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.720 The eighties as Nicole Kidman, because it's like ten a 0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:22.240 year or so. 0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.760 Yeah, exactly. Because when I did Rocky, I worked on 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.200 that first. It took me six months to get through 0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:29.680 part of edition. 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:31.120 Six months? What do you mean? 0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:36.239 I had to I had to build. I had to 0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:40.240 train to get more muscular, I had to meet the producers, 0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.360 I had to work on a monologue, and I had 0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.880 to do a screen test. All that took time for 0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:49.120 me to prepare because Stallone was doing something, he was 0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:52.080 doing another picture. And then once I had the role, 0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:55.520 then I worked with Sly for six months on the choreography, 0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:59.080 lifting weights, you know, working on my Russian accent, all 0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:02.440 of that. So I had a full year of working 0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:04.800 on that character. Nothing That's the only thing I did, 0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:08.240 like a full time job. So of course, when you 0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.040 put that much work into something, it's going to have 0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:16.600 a certain resonance. It's going to be very, very layered, right, 0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:21.120 And you can't just throw something together in four weeks 0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:26.360 and think you're gonna be able to deliver anything iconic. 0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:29.320 It's not gonna. It's not gonna happen. I don't care 0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:32.040 how good you are, So if you do too many movies, 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.680 you're not gonna deliver that. And it doesn't matter who 0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.360 you are. And I think that's what Brandon was talking about, 0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:42.360 and I can see that, you know, and that's what's 0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.760 happened now. You're right, some actors are in everything, so 0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.400 you know, it's not. They're good, but it's not memorable. 0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.840 It's not like you're gonna that's what you're gonna remember 0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.560 them ass, you're gonna remember them as something they did 0:32:56.440 --> 0:33:00.600 probably you know, you know that they spend time one 0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:01.400 when they were younger. 0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:05.600 You know, for me, it just dilutes their brand. Not 0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.880 that I want to call an actor a brand, but 0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.480 your persona Like it's just you want to wait and 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:15.120 you want to be invested in. It's hard to invest. Well, 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:19.080 it's hard to invest nowadays streaming. There's a million things 0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:22.360 you can watch, so it's really hard to get attached. 0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:27.800 And the attention span is like kids have no attention span? 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:31.320 How can you fix it? It's you're right, it's almost 0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.160 like the trains left the station. You just got to 0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:38.280 hang on. I mean, can you sometimes still be a 0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:41.720 picture where it'll come out of nowhere and they'll win 0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:47.080 all the awards and there's some has that special quality 0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:51.120 of of you know, people putt of work into it. 0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:57.320 They say, you know, you know, I've work with this 0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:01.080 acting coach for some movies that called. His name is 0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:05.880 Larry Moss, and he works with Larry. He's great, right, Larry, 0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.879 And he did say, like when you when you make 0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:15.560 your entrance, you know, scene one, you know, act on 0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:20.200 scene one, you make your entrance and he says, within 0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:24.360 like a minute or less, the audience makes a decision. 0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:28.640 You know, do I love this character? Don't like them? Like? 0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.640 Am I fascinated by this character or not? If you're not, 0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.400 you know, you're done. That's it. You know, there's no 0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:40.160 nothing you can do. You have to like, you have 0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.719 to come in with something. And if somebody comes in 0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:47.759 with that X factor, then you know, whether it's a 0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:50.120 movie or a play, then they're magical and you just 0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:53.200 watch them and you realize, oh shit, you know this 0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:57.759 is really axhilarating. You know, it's like I believe this 0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.880 person and you're so right, and you know, but you're right. 0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.640 With all the streaming, there's I don't think that too 0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:04.759 many people think like that. 0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:08.920 You know, No, it's a sad lost art famous and 0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:12.680 get a job and yeah, wait, you just did a 0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:16.960 Brandow impersonation. It was brilliant. You do impersonations? Uh? 0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:23.360 Sometimes? Yeah, you know some people I I I either 0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.520 know or you know, I don't. 0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:27.960 Have to do it here. But who else do you do. 0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:38.440 Your adult you know, yeah, to see I want Viking funeral. 0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:42.520 What I just focus. I don't want to Viking funeral. 0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:47.960 So yeah, I do a couple of people. Uh. The 0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:50.120 brand that's one of my favorite because I like is 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:57.120 you know, it's so he has that very very cereblow. 0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:03.320 You know, even though he's these sort of these thugs, 0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:07.560 you know, he comes across the soul, sensitive and thoughtful. 0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:12.279 It's it's interesting even when he even when he no 0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.759 matter what character he plays, you know, it's I love 0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:18.440 him a lot, you know, I like his performances. 0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:21.160 Did you feel like after Rocky four that you got 0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:21.840 type cast? 0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:26.280 Well? I did in some ways. Yeah. I played obviously 0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:31.080 another guy with no shirt. He man with a big sword, 0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:34.480 and you know he was also a fighter, like a 0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:38.480 warrior like Ivan Drago. And then I played Punisher, who 0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:40.920 was a guy on a motorcycle with a shotgun and 0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:46.040 so cool gene gun. And I played you know a 0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:50.120 lot of action movies. You know. When I started studying acting, 0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:54.000 I I was I was attracted to acting because it 0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:57.760 gave me a chance to be emotional and like cry 0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:01.880 on stage and be a fool. And you know, I 0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:04.439 trained with this guy named Warren Robertson in New York, 0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:08.400 and he liked the primal scream and all this, you know, emotional. 0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.200 I like to be emotional because I had all this 0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.600 pain for my childhood. So I didn't really want to 0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:17.680 be an action star. It was just, you know, that 0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:19.799 role was perfect for me. And when I did a 0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:23.279 good job in Rocky four, then yeah, here's another guy 0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:25.440 who can kick ass and who looks like he could, 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.160 you know, looks looks like an action guy. And that's 0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:30.399 the kind of movies I did. 0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:35.120 You know, do you ever want to do a rom com? 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:40.000 Yeah? I love rong coms. I like to cry and 0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:40.440 you know. 0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.040 How are you a comedy? 0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:45.720 I'm pretty good at comedy. 0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:47.759 I think you know. I want to see you do 0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:48.440 a comedy. 0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:49.720 Yeah. 0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:53.920 I want to see you and Stallone do like a 0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:54.920 different version of like. 0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:55.560 Dumb and dumber. 0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:58.479 Okay, that's not dumb, but. 0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:02.919 Like you know, Jim Carre, like that would like something funny? Yeah, 0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:05.359 can we set that up. 0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.719 I've become a fighter because against singer dance. No, but 0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:15.000 I think I think I would. Yeah, that's not a 0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:18.440 bad idea. I actually get a comedy on actually comedy 0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:22.800 that I'm developing, said in La the in show business 0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:27.360 with kind of Hollywood movie with you know, some of 0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:31.799 the expaniables. People learn that, so you know, it's it's 0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.279 not a hilarious comedy, but it's a little bit like 0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:40.560 a King of comedy that you know, squz pic. Sure 0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:42.280 it's kind of serious but funny. 0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.840 You probably do great physical comedy. 0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:49.680 Yeah, physical comedies. People like to see me do things. 0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:52.000 That's you know. I think I realized that when I 0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:55.400 was fighting that people wanted to watch me fight, you know, 0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:57.879 whether I want or. 0:38:57.960 --> 0:38:59.640 I just wanted to watch your cheekbones. 0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:05.560 But yeah, natural do things, kind of do things on film. 0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:09.319 It's for some people, you know. So you have that 0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:11.439 thing where they want people want to see you do things. 0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:13.560 So you write physical comedy be good. 0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:14.600 That'd be awesome. 0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:26.160 Do people ever slide into your d ms on Instagram? 0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:27.759 Make your direct messages? 0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:32.880 Do I? Yeah? You get some from friends getting weird ones, 0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:39.480 weird ones not really not really super weird, do I? I? Uh? 0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:47.359 I got I? Uh No, I don't read them, you know, 0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:50.600 I mean my wife reason sometimes I I don't read 0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.239 much of d M. So I accept if some like 0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:59.160 Chuck Norris or somebody, and yeah, but uh no, I 0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:03.760 I I don't really interact that much on Instagram, except 0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.680 you know, when I have you know, if I have 0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:08.880 something I want to spread, like a word about a 0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:12.319 movie or something, I gotta do it. But and it's 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:16.040 a great tool. I love it. And you know, I 0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.680 don't know, it's just it's a bit it's a bit 0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:23.279 unnatural or something because you're talking to people you've never 0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:25.920 met and you're very kind of it. Sometimes it gets 0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:29.319 quite intimate or quite you know, personal. I would say, 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:32.440 you know, it's a bit I'm still not used to it. 0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:41.040 I understand, Yeah, got it. Can you can you disclose 0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:43.200 if you're going to be in the new he man. 0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:45.720 Oh, I can't say anything. 0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:48.800 Okay, just blink once. If you are, I won't tell anyone. 0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:51.600 It's a podcast, it's not visual. 0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:55.120 Okay, Well I blink all the time. Whatever that means 0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:57.240 to your own conclusions. 0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:00.200 You are ready. 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:06.680 A few secret projects you know that I'm playing around with. 0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:09.799 I'll come out later. I got three. Actually, it's weird. 0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:12.319 I've got all these things I can't talk about now. 0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:14.560 It's so strange. It's never been like that before. 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:17.600 That's a cool thing. That means you got a lot 0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:18.120 going on? 0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:22.080 Yeah, can. 0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:26.840 How do you feel sorry? 0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:29.760 Oh my god, I just got vangirled and like totally 0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:31.719 blanked out. 0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:34.480 Have you actually sorry? 0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:37.359 This is so Rando. I like Rando questions because you've 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:41.719 been asked everything in your whole career. I'm sure. Have 0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:45.960 you tried the infamous Swedish meatballs at Akia? 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:50.520 Yeah, they're good. I've tried them, not in La, but 0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:53.040 somewhere else. I can't remember where, but you know what, 0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:54.400 I had meatballs today? 0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:57.600 Do you make them dolf longer? And do you cook? 0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:00.600 Oh? I didn't actually, but I went to a restaurant 0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:05.080 in Stockholm with my parents in law and have some meatballs. 0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:07.440 It was good. 0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:11.160 Like is the linenberry sauce at Ikea? Is that authentic? 0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.439 That's what it is. Typically it is. 0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:19.520 Pretty authentic and it comes with linenberries and those cucumbers 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:21.680 I believe, like salty cucumbers or some. 0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:27.359 Sorry your own brand as potatoes. 0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:28.880 Does your wife cook? 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:33.160 Yeah, she's a pretty good cook, which is great because 0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:37.080 we live in La and I do find the difference 0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.239 if you compare to steak Sweden. All the food here 0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:43.520 is pretty clean, like you know, but I think in 0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:45.920 La you can't eat really well, but you have to 0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:49.160 be a little more proactive. And I think she's very 0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:53.640 smart about that. So I think that's maybe another secret 0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:54.920 I have that I eat really well. 0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:58.840 Was that like a thing like where you're like, okay, 0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:01.520 can you can you cook like Swedish cuisine? 0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:05.640 Yeah? Here, fill out this questionnaire question one. Can you 0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:10.120 make meatballs? No? I uh, I just know when I'm. 0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:11.600 Met her she can handle the balls. 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:16.000 I mean, yeah, she didn't cook that much, but as 0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:20.720 we yes, you know, the years pasted, she did learned 0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:24.520 to cook or she ended up cooking more. And uh, 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:27.600 you know, I used to cook a little more in 0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:29.719 the beginning, used to cook breakfast as such, But now 0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:31.600 I don't cook much at all, just a little bit, 0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:34.759 but not much, which is good because I'm busy. So 0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:36.520 I'm glad she's doing it. 0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:38.360 Definitely. 0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:41.399 If you I don't even know if you ever do, 0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:46.080 and I know you're super healthy, But if you had 0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:49.160 to pick a fast food, what would be your favorite. 0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:58.080 Best food? Is? Hamburger? Fast food? Burger burger with cheese, burger. 0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.640 With fries, like what place? 0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:05.320 H There is one in West Hollywood called Shake Shake Shock. 0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:06.560 It's on. 0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:09.160 Mass food. 0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:11.880 Is that fast food? Now? 0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.640 It's really good? I would consider that. 0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:20.560 Now I'm talking like McDonald's, Burger King, Taco Bell. 0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:25.520 No that now I could go for some for some 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:34.320 I hop I could go for some pancakes. But so pancakes, 0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:36.680 I hop again. 0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:38.480 Not fast food. But I didn't see that one coming. 0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:41.839 Can we talk about your vodka hard cut? 0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:47.839 Okay, what about it? Uh? It's this is the logo HC. 0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:52.960 It's yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, it's sick potato vodka. 0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:56.360 And me and my wife came up with the idea. 0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:58.759 I just didn't like any of the vodkas out there. 0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:00.920 And what was the reason you E didn't like the 0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:01.879 other brands out there? 0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:05.120 Well, I missed the taste. I missed that you cannot 0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.880 drink it on ice, and you can't sip it because 0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:10.799 it's too harsh and it burns your throat. It's like 0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:15.799 aviation fuel. I didn't like that taste. That was the 0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.520 main thing that I wanted, a very smooth vodka. And 0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.839 I didn't know much about it, but it was kind 0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:25.000 of exciting to delve into it and I realized, we 0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:27.560 realized that potato vodka is a much smoother and there 0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.319 are very few potato vodkets only like one or two 0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:33.439 percent in America potato vodckets, and there was a really 0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:38.279 good chopine poland. But then we found one in America 0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:42.440 in Idaho, Idaho potatoes. Of course, that was great. Document 0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:44.719 and water. It's very very smooth. You can drink it 0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:48.319 straight up. People like that. People are very surprised when 0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:48.839 they try it. 0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:51.279 And I don't know if I could do that. 0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:55.799 Yeah, I'll send you a bottle. You just sip it 0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:59.239 on ice or you can because it's overproof. It is 0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:03.880 nighty proof, so when you put it in a cocktail, 0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.600 it holds the ice better, it doesn't get us diluted, 0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:12.120 and there's no clicks, so it's good. Like old the 0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.720 vodkas say the same thing, but we're all we taste 0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:20.840 better over ice, smooth and also tastes better in a cocktail. 0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:24.319 And that's that's That was the main thing. And then 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:27.640 then I just thought, well, I want to have a 0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:30.560 little fun with vodka the way people have fun with tequila. 0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:34.000 You know, brands, the vodka brands are kind of boring, 0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:35.560 so I wanted to have a little fun with it 0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:40.000 and you know, have a little kind of badass expendables vibes. 0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.720 So and I love that you say. 0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:45.040 I mean, you put it out there that you're a 0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:48.040 self professed drinker, and there's nothing wrong with that. 0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:51.200 No, I don't drink domb much. I work out a lot, 0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:53.799 but I do like to have a cocktail once a 0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:57.040 week maybe or sometimes twice. And and when I drink, 0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.319 I like to drink some really good something I really 0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:03.239 enjoy and i'd like to I don't have to, I 0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:05.399 don't have to abuse it. Just want to enjoy it. 0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:08.040 It's relaxing and fun, you know. 0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:11.720 I know people always say like, oh, you can't drink, 0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:14.520 like that's you know, especially when you get older, you 0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:15.080 can't drink. 0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:17.880 And it's interesting. You see these people that say. 0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:20.440 She lived to be one hundred and nine and she 0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:22.919 had a sip of whiskey every single day. 0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:28.120 Yes, but you know, like it's like, look. 0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.480 I think if you have a little bit of alcohol, 0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:34.200 I mean, you look at people who live in like 0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:36.960 the Mediterranean region. I had a place in Spain for 0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:40.920 twenty years and bea or you go to grease people, yeah, 0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:45.080 drink a little bit, eat ruso, or they drink you know, wine, 0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:46.920 and they live the longest. 0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:51.759 It's very different than the United States. 0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:56.000 Yeah, I mean I think I don't think alcohol has 0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.400 a big time to do with unless you're an alcoholic. 0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:02.239 But I mean if anything in moderation, you know, I 0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:04.960 think what you eat is more important, you know, and 0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:06.719 then if you have a drink or two in a week, 0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:09.240 think that matters. Right. 0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:13.719 So you can have some vodka, if you have some pancakes. 0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:15.000 You can have vodka pancakes. 0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:17.080 Vodka infused pancakes. 0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:20.279 I don't know about that. Let me think about it. 0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:26.640 And the syrup, the syrup maybe here, okay, okay, you 0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:31.120 know we do have a five to one martini, which 0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:33.920 is you know I have. I like the old school stuff, 0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:37.080 the the what do you call it, the rat pack, 0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:41.600 the martinis, the you know, the rocks, glasses, all that 0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:48.000 kind of olives. Olives, yeah, green blue cheese are new. No, 0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:52.719 I would say, are you telling green olives? No, no piano, 0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:54.920 no pepper, and side because the pimento. 0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:57.839 Yeah, I'm not a fan either. I love a good 0:48:57.840 --> 0:48:59.160 all of stuff with blue cheese. 0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:03.000 Oh blue cheese, you mean and the drink or. 0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:07.800 In the olive into the drink. 0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:09.239 I gotta try that and I haven't tried it. 0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:13.719 Oh my gosh, a blue cheese stuffed all of martini. 0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:16.920 You have to with hard cut vodka. We'll do it together. 0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:18.960 Oh yeah, okay, we'll do together. 0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:23.279 Okay, that's a plan. And ice wise, like, does it 0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:27.560 have to be those like big cubes or you sip 0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:28.640 it over ice, so. 0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:31.480 Have to be a big cube, except we that's kind 0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:35.200 of a signature, look as the straight up over big cube, 0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:40.400 only because it just the cube doesn't mount as quickly 0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:42.440 so it doesn't dilute vodka too much. 0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:44.800 I see. That's the reason. I just thought they always 0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:45.320 look cool. 0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:47.719 Yeah, they look cool as well. You can get them. 0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:50.480 I can get them with the with the ice stamp. 0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:53.960 Really what Yeah? 0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:56.600 But yeah, that's just a little detail. But I think 0:49:56.719 --> 0:50:01.080 mostly it's because the alcohol, well you know, otherwise the 0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:05.120 alcohol dilutes the ice and it becomes too diluted too fast. 0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:08.160 If you have bar ice. Bar ice is good for shaking, 0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:09.320 but not so much for a drink. 0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:12.680 Oh my god, I could listen to you talk about 0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:19.520 this all day long. Okay, last question, Sorry, tell your 0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:20.719 wife to put ear muffs on. 0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:24.600 Has a girl ever said to you you must break me? 0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:29.960 They may? I forgot, but I mean I may have 0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:33.080 too much hard cut before now this is in the past. 0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:36.120 That may have seen in the past, of course, yeah. 0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:40.600 Maybe I think they've maybe said it and not perhaps 0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:43.759 those words, but maybe somebody did say that. 0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:48.560 Well, you were delightful. 0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:53.000 I was so excited to have a conversation with you, 0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:56.800 just because it was Nostalgia is really big right now, 0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.520 and I know you have so many new projects coming out, 0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:02.480 but it's nice when we can hold onto things that 0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:05.560 were during a time period that meant something and held 0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:09.040 a special place in our hearts. So You've always had 0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:10.759 that in my heart. So I was really excited to 0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:15.000 talk to you today and I am super impressed. I 0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:16.640 don't know, I think you're so fun. 0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:20.040 Thanks Tory. You look great too, and it was great 0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:22.360 to talk to you here. It was the best interview 0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:25.280 I've ever had for for a long time. 0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:28.920 Seriously, I appreciate that. Okay, wait, we're going to have 0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:31.440 that drink together right with your wife, the three of us. 0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:34.759 It will be like the new throufle I'm single now, 0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:41.120 so okay, no problem. Perfect, Thank you, Bye Tory. Bye.