1 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Miss Spelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, how are you good? Good? 3 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 3: Thanks? I'm in Sweden actually visiting. This is extremely red 4 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 3: room here that I'm in. 5 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: I like the red room. 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: Are you and your wife there? 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah? Vacation business, vacation mostly got a little business, 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: but most of vacation visit. My daughter's uh one lives 10 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: in Spain, in Greece with her boyfriend in Athens. We're 11 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: going next week, and the other ones in Marbella. 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: My goodness, how did like the legendary dude of all dude, 13 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: like villain of all villain wind up with two daughters? 14 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: Boys? 15 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 3: You know what they call it? What fighter's curse? You 16 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: ever heard of that? 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: Now? 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: Fighter still lone. A few other friends of mine they 19 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: have daughters. They get daughters. It's like nature's trying to 20 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 3: balance your testosterone by taking your genes and carrying them 21 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: on in a female version. 22 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: You know. Huh? Is that fighter's curse or just karma? 23 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: Fighter's curse? I think it may be karma. I mean, 24 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: I'm glad to have daughters because it's much easier. I 25 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: think it's more, more less complicated. I think between father's daughters. 26 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: Father's sons can be can get complex they try to 27 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: live up to something, especially if you're a you know, 28 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: an action action start in a movie. Then you know, 29 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 3: your son can can have a hard time maybe, But 30 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: for daughters, it's just kind of pure, pure, more pure love. 31 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: I think in the attraction, you know, are they daddy's girls? 32 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: I think so you're all girls daddy's girls? Do you 33 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: think everybody? Uh? 34 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: I would hope. So. I mean, look, if you have 35 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: a healthy relationship in your you can't exist our daddy's girls. 36 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: But I mean, obviously you know that can be depending 37 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: on the daddy or the kid, mostly the father. If 38 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 3: you don't play your cards right, then you know you 39 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: could end up having a major conflict there too. 40 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 2: Do you just say, daddy one more time? 41 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: Daddy? 42 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: Oh that was hot? Anyway, I digressed. 43 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm such a fangirl, Like, oh my gosh, sorry, I'm 44 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: like a little fangirling right now because like the young 45 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: version of me, like in the eighties, I don't know, 46 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: like like the Rocky movies. I just remember, it wasn't 47 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: something I would be into, like you know, I like 48 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: chick flicks and rom coms and whatever they were called. 49 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: John Hughes movies back in the eighties, and I watched 50 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: them because my dad was so into them, and I 51 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: fell in love with them, Like I have seen every 52 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: single one multiple times on my own and for a 53 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: girl like I don't know, I would just cry and 54 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: I'd have crushes and I'd be like championing everyone, and 55 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: like I. 56 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: Had a bit of a crush on you because you 57 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: were blonde. 58 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: I always died Mary a blonde boy because I wanted 59 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: a blonde boys because I'm not naturally blonde, and I 60 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: just want blonde kids. 61 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: But it looks good, Oh my hair. 62 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah it looks good. 63 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: Thanks doll, appreciate that. 64 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, okay, Rocky movies' is, like I said, A 65 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: stallone said, you don't have to know anything about boxing 66 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: to enjoy movie because it's about life. It's about the 67 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: challenge of life. And I think some people are more 68 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: compelled by it because I think maybe they're more fighters 69 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: in their own life. Maybe they have that attitude fighters attitude, 70 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: and perhaps they're more they try to learn something from 71 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: those films. 72 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: You know, It's true. It just inspires you on any level. So, Mike, 73 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: I have five kids. They're eighteen seventeen, thirteen, twelve, and 74 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: eight and I have five kids. 75 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: Well you look great for five kids. I'll tell you. 76 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: Oh thanks my bottom hat, but yeah, no thanks. It 77 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 2: definitely keeps me on my toes. 78 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: I have three boys, two girls, and it's so wild. 79 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: They're all so. 80 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: Unique and it's just it's such a fun journey. But 81 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: I recently so I've been going back because my kids, 82 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, with TikTok and YouTube, everything that was our 83 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: generation is now coming back in. You know, they see 84 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: the memes and the clips and they and they are 85 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: interested in our lives back then. What was you know, 86 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: good you know, good movies and TV to us. But 87 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: so my eight year old I just started him watching Rocky, 88 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: not because of this interview, just in general, because I 89 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, you would love this so much. 90 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: And they still stand up. 91 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: They really do. 92 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: Like you know, my kids watch my show nine o 93 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: two and oh and they're like, oh, it's grainy, something's 94 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: wrong with the screen. 95 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: Oh it's really slow. 96 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: But you know Rocky, which is you know before nine 97 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: o two and oh in the eighties, Like it stands up. 98 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: They love it. 99 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: Great. No, I think you're right. I think some some 100 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: in the movie, especially Rocky for some reason, because it 101 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: has the visual language was very, very kind of extreme, 102 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 3: and lighting and the way it's cut together with the 103 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 3: slow mo and the dissults and the free frames everything 104 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 3: the way it was done, it kind of holds up 105 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: pretty well, I think. And also I believe, you know, 106 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: when I think back in my life, I was interested 107 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: in movies that were made before I was born, too, 108 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: Like what did I my dad what he used to watch? 109 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: I used to be kind of fascinated by that, So, 110 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 3: you know. At the same time, I'm sure your kids 111 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: we're kind of interested in the time that you grew 112 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: up when you were young, because it's that heritage, you know, 113 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 3: And I think maybe that's part of it. 114 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: Too, definitely, But they think I'm old. 115 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: Like my eight year old asked me the other day, 116 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: did they have Chucky cheeses back. 117 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: In your day? 118 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 3: Like rocket my day? 119 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm like yes, and he's like, really, so it's been 120 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: around a really long time, like it's old. 121 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, that's life, isn't it. How it'll all change, 122 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: I mean, the perspective changes. Like I was even today, 123 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: I was talking to somebody about the fact that you know, 124 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: when I was a kid. I remember there was an 125 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: anniversary for the end of World War Two. I think 126 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: it was twenty five year anniversary. And that's like something 127 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,559 Speaker 3: that ended in two thousands now, so that's how close 128 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: it was. Like two thousand doesn't seem that long ago. 129 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: But when I was a kid, and I remember people 130 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: were watching on TV and everybody were in Normandy and 131 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: all that, and of course it was only twenty five 132 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: years ago, it was like around the corner. But you know, 133 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: for a kid, it seems like ages ago. 134 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: It seems ages ago. I know there's that thing where 135 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: it's like it all went so fast, but it all 136 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: went so slow. It's like, really, I don't know, it's 137 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: that thing. I think it's different for women than men aging, 138 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: especially in the in the spotlight as actors. 139 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you look the same, like you don't age. 140 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: Not really, but no, but I think, let. 141 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: Me see them again. Wait, I just want to see 142 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: them up close and personal. Oh, there they are. 143 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: So do you. 144 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: Ensure your biceps? What have you ensured your bic No? 145 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 3: I didn't actually a good idea flunger and why, I'll 146 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: think about it. 147 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: I'll get on that. 148 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: I intend to keep them where they are, But yeah, 149 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: I think that for women with some women age really well, 150 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, it takes an effort. You probably 151 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: know it takes effort and takes dedication to take care 152 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: of yourself as you get older. I mean, a lot 153 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: of people let themselves go. And if you don't, if 154 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: you're a little more focused, then you can stay young 155 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: as a man or a woman. You know, I'm just 156 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 3: thinking of I did a movie called Aquaman and Nicole 157 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 3: Kidman's in it, and you know, she looks you know, 158 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 3: she always looks good on film, but when you see 159 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: her in person, she looks great too, and she's like, 160 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, she's not as old as I am, 161 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: bit close, so, you know, and I was impressed by 162 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 3: the fact that she looked very fit, and she looked 163 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 3: very very youthful, even the way she carries herself. 164 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: You know, what's her secret? 165 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: My secret? 166 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: Not your secret, Nicole Kidman, her secrets? What do you think? 167 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not sure where her secret is. 168 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're like one of the smartest men alive. 169 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: You must know. 170 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: There's some engineering going on scientifically, Like what is it? 171 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: Some of it's genetics, I think some of it is 172 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: is training and diect and the other one is probably 173 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 3: staying youthful in your mind. You know, if you're an actor, 174 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: usually being creative, you work with younger people, you're you know, 175 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: you're playful, you have fun, you enjoy the moment, and 176 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: you don't get caught up in the past too much. 177 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: So I think those things help, you know. 178 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, I feel like she's a free spirit. 179 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: She's Yeah, she's in everything every movie. 180 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, it's crazy wild. When 181 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: I worked with her on I Can on the On 182 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: the sequel, she came. We did as we have to 183 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: reshoot a scene and shot on the stage at Warner 184 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: Brothers in La and I was tired. I've had some 185 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 3: surgery on my ankles, so I came in on crutches. 186 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: But you know, of course she can't just prop me 187 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: up and shoot this part. But she had, she had 188 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: done it. Came straight from somewhere Australia, I guess, and 189 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: did a night shoot and had worked two nights in 190 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 3: a row, and she came straight from shooting Knights onto 191 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: this set. It's like, man, that's that's rough. You know. 192 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: I wouldn't I would try to avoid that. If it 193 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: was me, I wouldn't do it that way. But I 194 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: guess she loves she loves working. 195 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: You know, women are warriors. 196 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah were you. 197 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: Were you a fan of the Rocky franchise before Rocky four? 198 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, I watched the First Rocky. 199 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: I came over on you didn't sell that for real? 200 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I came over here to America. Sorry, I'm Sweedena, 201 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: but I came to America as an student when I 202 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: was eighteen, and I went to watch Rocky the First 203 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: Rocky in the theater. And this is right after that 204 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: I ran hostage crisis. You remember, America was kind of 205 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: not very patriotic. It was a kind of a low 206 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: period in the country's self esteem, I would say after 207 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: the Vietnam War ended, and that was in seventy five 208 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: and ended. It was like a year or two later, 209 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 3: and the movie came out, and that was in the 210 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: theater and I still remember how people are cheering, and 211 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: it was you know, the Rocky. The First Rocky was 212 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: came out during the bicentennial celebrations right nineteen seventy six, 213 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: I believe, so, you know, it was a big, kind 214 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: of a big moment. I was a fan of that. 215 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: Then Rocky three I watched when I was in Australia 216 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: on a scholarship studying engineering. I was there and I 217 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: was fighting karate championships and I listened to some of 218 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 3: the Iva Tiger some of the music getting ready for 219 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: my fight, and little did I know I was going 220 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: to be in the next one. But you know, only 221 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 3: three years later, So it was kind of. 222 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 2: Bizarre that happened so wild. 223 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I know there it's like bittersweet, like because 224 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: we want to talk about it because it's what made 225 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: us made our careers. But sometimes it's like, do you 226 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: feel like you ever get tired of talking about Rocky. 227 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: Usually it's a load of question. I could have worded 228 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: it better, you know. 229 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: No, sometimes I get a little tired of it, but 230 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: not really. I mean I appreciate the people, you know, 231 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: being the adoration or the fanboys and girls and people 232 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: you know liking my work and as that character. I yeah, 233 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: I don't mind. I mean I think that, you know, 234 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: I've done a lot of other things. Some people prefer 235 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: the Masters of the Universe, or. 236 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: Maybe you know you're he Man, like come on, he. 237 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: Man, or if they're like Aquaman if they're younger people, 238 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: they younger kids, they maybe seen Aquaman or some But 239 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: I also believe that first time you come on screen, 240 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 3: especially if you're unknown, and when people see you the 241 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 3: first time, whether it's Stallone as Rocky or Arnold as 242 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: Conan and people, it just kind of gets burnt into 243 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: your consciousness as the moviegoer, because especially in those days, 244 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: it was the big screen, and you know, you really 245 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: believe that person's character existed, and it's it's hard to 246 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: get over that. So I don't I understand why it's 247 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: like that. 248 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, did you speak English when you first 249 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: came to America. 250 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: I spoke a little bit. I came to study engineering 251 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: when I was eighteen. Then I went back to Sweden 252 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: and I came back again, studied twice. I came back 253 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: studied more engineering. 254 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: And scholarship MIT right, Yeah, I. 255 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 3: Was MIT towards the end. So I spoke English. 256 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: But if you had gone that route, what if. 257 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: I would have been I would have been a different life. 258 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: I would have I don't know, shaking test tubes. I 259 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: would probably been running an oil company or something. I 260 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: had kind of ideas of doing the master's in Business 261 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: administration and then running becoming a company corporate guy or 262 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: a CEO or something. And I'm kind of doing it 263 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: now in a roundabout way with this liquor company I have. 264 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 3: But you know, I think I would have missed out. 265 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: I don't think I would have been happy. I had 266 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: a lot of traumas in my childhood, a lot of 267 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: issues to deal with, and I think acting was a 268 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: way for me to express that. And so much martial arts, 269 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: but acting was the better way to do it. 270 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: Wow, you in a suit? 271 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, every day I can picture it. 272 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 2: So was your first movie? View to a Kill? 273 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 274 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: I love that movie? 275 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 276 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: You two favorite James Bond movie. 277 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Roger Moore, Christopher walk and Grace Jones was in 278 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: it and I was dating her at the time. And 279 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: you know, I was there hanging out on set and 280 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 3: some guy didn't show up for work and they kind 281 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: of looked around to find the replacement for a guy 282 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: to just play a bodyguard, and I look the part. 283 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 3: So I got that role. I was in it for 284 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: like twenty seconds with Grace and Chris. Chris walkin and 285 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: I met him. He was very nice, very nice and interesting. 286 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: You know, watched his acting and I'd started some acting 287 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 3: at the time too, so I was watching him as 288 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 3: he was preparing and and how he kind of would 289 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: change his attitude, you know, from the rehearsal, and then 290 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: he would totally do one eighty and all the other 291 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: actors was shocked. I didn't know how to respond to me. 292 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: Really, I've never heard that. 293 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah he did. He would. He never would the 294 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: way I saw it, anyway, he wouldn't. He didn't really 295 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 3: give much in the rehearsal and he didn't know what 296 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: was going to happen. But you know, when the cameras 297 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 3: came on, he would have all kinds of impulses and 298 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: it was very interesting, like very very very explosive. You know, 299 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: his acting is very unpredictable. 300 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: You know that is so cool. Oh my gosh. 301 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: You and Grace Jones were such an iconic couple. You were, 302 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: and it's interesting when I think of the two of you, 303 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: like I have a visual in my mind of the 304 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: two of you and like a paparazzi and it's fashion. 305 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: I think fashion, when when I think the two of you, 306 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: is that weird? 307 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: No, I think you're right. She was obviously always very 308 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 3: fashionably dressed, and she helped me. You know, I met 309 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 3: different designers and I would get stuff them like Brisa 310 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 3: she would make me a jacket, or Kenzo would do 311 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 3: something or you know, I wore a lot of Milano 312 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: Blanic and hadman's shoes too in those days. I don't 313 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: know if they did still do, but yeah, it was 314 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 3: very fashionable. Plus we were always in a cool place 315 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: at fifty four Area, and the photography in those days 316 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 3: was also you know, even the paparazzis they had had 317 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: talent and made of stuff looked really cool. Yeah right, 318 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: you know, And yeah, so it has like a fashion 319 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 3: sense to it. And I think the fact that she 320 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 3: was dark and I was blonde, and there's like there's 321 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: some kind of graphic kind of statement there that that 322 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 3: also looks fashionable. 323 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, imagine the two of you a couple 324 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: present day. Your age is back then, but now out 325 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: like paparazzi all over you guys. 326 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: It would be in social media, social media. I mean, 327 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: it'd be a whole different ballgame. It'd be wild. 328 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, yeah, it would be. It was. It 329 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 3: was unusual and even before I was in the movies, 330 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: I you know, I was with her and we went 331 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: to fifty four in these places and people did. 332 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 2: Study of fifty four. 333 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 3: My gosh, yeah, yeah, it was do you ever get 334 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: a lime light? Oh yeah, I worked there. It was 335 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 3: a dark yeah. Asia bouncer in the front there, and 336 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: Charles Palmieri another actor he was, he was in the back. Yeah, 337 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: this is it was that period. You know they say 338 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 3: when I first came, I came to New York eighty 339 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 3: to eighty three. So there was the period where it's 340 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 3: right for age. So it's like they say, the period 341 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 3: between what is it the invention of the pill and age? 342 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 3: There is a period where you know, the nightlife was 343 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: kind of wild and people weren't didn't have any inhibitions. 344 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: There were no there were no iPhones. There were you know, 345 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 3: if you went to a club, they weren't gonna have 346 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,479 Speaker 3: some photographers run around and take pictures of Mick Jagger 347 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: or anybody you know doing anything illegal. It was never 348 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 3: going to get out and if you try to sell 349 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 3: it to some magazine, they wouldn't buy it anyway. But 350 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 3: you know, it slowly all of that changed. So when I 351 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: went out to a club, you know, Prince would be 352 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 3: there and Michael Jackson whoever was, and you know, people 353 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: were like relaxed and they could be be themselves, you know, 354 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: which now only maybe in a private party with that happened, 355 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: but I don't think would happen in the club anymore. 356 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: Which female celebrities hit on you and you think like, hmm, 357 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: maybe I should have gone out with them. 358 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: Back in the day. Oh all of them? 359 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 3: All of them. Who did I run into? Well, Iman 360 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: was kind of cute. She was a friend of Grace's. 361 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 2: Kind of cute, hot hot. 362 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: There was I ran into, uh, I remember I ran 363 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: into reck Well, Well some party she was, but she 364 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: must have been I thought about it. She you know, 365 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 3: probably wasn't more than like late thirties or maybe forty 366 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: or something now, but she was quite hot, and. 367 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: You were just a young buck I. 368 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: Was, Yeah, I was. But well, models around, you know, 369 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 3: a lot of models. Was that Chracy Grillo had. She 370 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 3: had a sister was a model. I'm trying to remember 371 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: her name though. Anyway, Well, there were a. 372 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: Few, Oh my god, the eighties that was like the 373 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: most iconic time for models. 374 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you're right, because the models were were sexyre 375 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 3: they looked more feminine, They weren't this kind of they 376 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 3: still the started that kind of what's it called, like 377 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 3: metrosexual or like andrown and drogens looks more. 378 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 2: And now obscure is in. 379 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: Yeah Knowmi Campbell and uh, you know Cindy Crawford and 380 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: Linda Evangelista, all this girls. 381 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, imagine you with Claudia Schiffer. It would 382 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: have been Ken and Barbie machine version like the version. 383 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was lucky you got to work with 384 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 3: the photographers, you know, like her Ritz and Helma Newton 385 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 3: and Greg Gorman, all of those guys. You know. 386 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: Andy Warhol, Anie World. 387 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he took some of my first pictures with Andy Warhold. 388 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 3: He he just had his knack of picking finding people 389 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: that had even I wouldn't say talent, but had some 390 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 3: something an X factor. Like he picked me out in 391 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 3: the club. Yeah. Grace wasn't even there. He was just 392 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: I just saw this little guy with white hair come 393 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 3: up to me and go, Hi, what are you famous for? 394 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 3: And I'm like, nothing as far as I know. And 395 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: he's like, took a picture of me, and they said, 396 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 3: I want to put you in my magazine. And then 397 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 3: Grace showed up and I realized it was Andy Worrel 398 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 3: and then we ended up doing a spread for for 399 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 3: Interview magazine. 400 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: Which is fun iconic. I want to see that photo. 401 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what happened to it. I think 402 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 3: it was in his instamatic, but we did do a 403 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: shoot with and and Andrew Watson were Interview. And then 404 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: also he had this other buddy, Chris macOS, who's a 405 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 3: great photographer. And I don't know if I think Grace 406 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: told me or I found out later, because I remember 407 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 3: going to the photo shooting and it was always like, 408 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 3: uh okay, you know, wearing a T shirt. And then 409 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: it would be like, hey, what if we do some 410 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: pictures without the T shirt? You know? Uh okay, hey 411 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: what if you just down to like underwear, you know, 412 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: with that look? And then you know, I found out 413 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: that there was some kind of bets between him and 414 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: Andy about how much if there was a guy coming in, 415 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 3: how much would they remove, you know, and and some 416 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 3: something like and then sort of reporting on the on 417 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 3: the on the guy's talents, if you know what I mean. 418 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: So of course Grace showed up at some point in 419 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 3: the fur coats, you know, to stop, you know, she 420 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: got stops. It was like, no, stop that. So, I 421 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: you know, it was tough when you were a kid, 422 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: and it's nice boy, you didn't really understand what was 423 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: going on. I mean I didn't really had no experience. 424 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't really I didn't get it, you know, 425 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 3: but it took me a while to figure it out. 426 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: And Grace Jones was sorry, I'll move on for a second, 427 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: but this is just so iconic to me. 428 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 2: Sorry. 429 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: I mean, she was known for pushing the envelope fashion wise, 430 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: and she gorgeous, stunning. 431 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 2: How tall was she? 432 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: Probably as tall as people think the shows were these, 433 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: you know amze, I mean nice stiletto heels, but five 434 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 3: maybe five nine or something, so she wasn't short, but you. 435 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: Know, okay, but she definitely dressed provocative. Lee, she was 436 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: provocative and stirred things up, which was so groundbreaking. Did 437 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: you ever feel jealous going out like the men were 438 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: staring at her? 439 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a little bit jealous in the beginning, 440 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: Like I knew she had you know, she had a 441 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 3: with this French guy who she hadn't been married to, 442 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: but she he was the father of the son, and 443 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, there was some I realized some of 444 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: the men we ran into it. Probably she had made 445 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 3: it had an a fairway, whether you can kind of 446 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 3: feel the energy or I wasn't that. I'm not a 447 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 3: jealous person. I wasn't that jealous, but I did think 448 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 3: that I did. I think at some point I think 449 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 3: I can't kind of I ran into some of us 450 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: going through a drawer at her house or something, and 451 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 3: ran into some polaroids, you know, and I was like, oh, okay, 452 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: a little bit explicit, but you know, it wasn't that bad. 453 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 3: It was it was a crazy time. I didn't you know, no, 454 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: I mean she wasn't jealous either, so it was it 455 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: was fine. I think we were pretty secure in each other. 456 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, the two hottest people ever. Like, gosh, 457 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: what a while time. I can't believe you have three 458 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: point three million followers on Instagram. 459 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 3: Okay, I think I do, yeah something like that. 460 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: What well, how do you do it? Give me? 461 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't really meet social media. It's 462 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: just a little bit of an annoying thing. I gotta 463 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 3: do do some for you know, lifetimes of contracts. You 464 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: have to have so many posts, and now with this 465 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 3: Flicker brand I have, you know, you got to keep 466 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 3: up with social media, but I don't really like it 467 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 3: that much. I'm not a big fan of it. I 468 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: hate to post pictures of myself, but you know, my 469 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 3: wife helps me, and I don't know. I think it's 470 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 3: a it's a necessary evil. Now. Yeah, so I can 471 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 3: see where you know, there were in the old days 472 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: some actors ever did publicity and it kind of would 473 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 3: make them mysterious, you know, and I wish I could 474 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 3: do that, but I just I don't know. 475 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: It's just I agree. 476 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like double sided, like it's evil and it's great. 477 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: And I used to love looking at actors and wondering, like, 478 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: what is it like behind the scenes, what is their 479 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: personal life like? And we never saw it, We never knew, 480 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: you know, they would do publicity, do interviews. It was 481 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 1: media trained. And now, you know, the thing is, the 482 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: more real and authentic you are, you can connect with everyone, 483 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: so everyone knows almost too much about you. 484 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it sort of suits me because I 485 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 3: like to I'm not you know, I don't have anything 486 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: to hide. I can be open with my fans and 487 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 3: talk about my private life or whatever anything happens to me. 488 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: But I do agree with you that there was a 489 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: time where say a real fine actor like Robert de 490 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: Niro or Pacino, you can never They never did any 491 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: They hardly did any press, so you never really knew that. 492 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: You never saw them except for the when they played 493 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: a character. So it made you want to pay ten 494 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: dollars whatever cost to see them in the theater. 495 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: Well, like I remember, it was ten dollars, was it? 496 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: It was it five? I don't know about ten. I think, well, 497 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: Jack Nichol said, I read about him. He did his 498 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 3: last interview or talk shows in I think in the 499 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: eighties or seventies, even I he just decided it's some point, yeah, 500 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 3: I think. So if you check on him, you'll find 501 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 3: very few interviews I think when he's talking about his 502 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 3: work or his characters or you know, you know. I 503 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 3: don't think he's ever been on I don't know if 504 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 3: he's been on Letterman or you you know, not much. 505 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: I think it kind of keeps a certain mystery there, 506 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 3: and I think they maybe there will be some kind 507 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: of maybe I'll come back to that. I don't know, 508 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: because I saw this interview with Johnny Depp, you know, 509 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 3: on on on I think it was a Letterman or 510 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: but anyway, he was talking to the letterman. You know, 511 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 3: he's very funny and interviews he just answers one word 512 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 3: right for two words. But he's very very clever and charming. 513 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 3: But he did say that he did a move because 514 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: let him and ask him about Brando working with Marlon 515 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: Brando and and he said that he did a picture 516 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: with him. It's it called don't doing one anyway if 517 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 3: the movie did. Yeah, And then Brando had asked him 518 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 3: at some point, you know, like when they were having lunch, 519 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 3: like how many movies do do a year or something? 520 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 3: And then and he said that two or three whatever, Branza, 521 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 3: there's too many. You know, it's says you only have 522 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 3: so many characters in new closet or whatever. He had 523 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: some funny word. But I always thought about that, and 524 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, I mean, how much effort can you 525 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 3: put into the great performers it obviously that's another thing 526 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 3: that happened back in. 527 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: The eighties as Nicole Kidman, because it's like ten a 528 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: year or so. 529 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Because when I did Rocky, I worked on 530 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 3: that first. It took me six months to get through 531 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 3: part of edition. 532 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: Six months? What do you mean? 533 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,239 Speaker 3: I had to I had to build. I had to 534 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 3: train to get more muscular, I had to meet the producers, 535 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 3: I had to work on a monologue, and I had 536 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 3: to do a screen test. All that took time for 537 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: me to prepare because Stallone was doing something, he was 538 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: doing another picture. And then once I had the role, 539 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 3: then I worked with Sly for six months on the choreography, 540 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: lifting weights, you know, working on my Russian accent, all 541 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: of that. So I had a full year of working 542 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: on that character. Nothing That's the only thing I did, 543 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: like a full time job. So of course, when you 544 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 3: put that much work into something, it's going to have 545 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 3: a certain resonance. It's going to be very, very layered, right, 546 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 3: And you can't just throw something together in four weeks 547 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 3: and think you're gonna be able to deliver anything iconic. 548 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: It's not gonna. It's not gonna happen. I don't care 549 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 3: how good you are, So if you do too many movies, 550 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 3: you're not gonna deliver that. And it doesn't matter who 551 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 3: you are. And I think that's what Brandon was talking about, 552 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 3: and I can see that, you know, and that's what's 553 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: happened now. You're right, some actors are in everything, so 554 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 3: you know, it's not. They're good, but it's not memorable. 555 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 3: It's not like you're gonna that's what you're gonna remember 556 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 3: them ass, you're gonna remember them as something they did 557 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: probably you know, you know that they spend time one 558 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 3: when they were younger. 559 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: You know, for me, it just dilutes their brand. Not 560 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: that I want to call an actor a brand, but 561 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: your persona Like it's just you want to wait and 562 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: you want to be invested in. It's hard to invest. Well, 563 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: it's hard to invest nowadays streaming. There's a million things 564 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: you can watch, so it's really hard to get attached. 565 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: And the attention span is like kids have no attention span? 566 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 3: How can you fix it? It's you're right, it's almost 567 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 3: like the trains left the station. You just got to 568 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 3: hang on. I mean, can you sometimes still be a 569 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 3: picture where it'll come out of nowhere and they'll win 570 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 3: all the awards and there's some has that special quality 571 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 3: of of you know, people putt of work into it. 572 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 3: They say, you know, you know, I've work with this 573 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 3: acting coach for some movies that called. His name is 574 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: Larry Moss, and he works with Larry. He's great, right, Larry, 575 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 3: And he did say, like when you when you make 576 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 3: your entrance, you know, scene one, you know, act on 577 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 3: scene one, you make your entrance and he says, within 578 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 3: like a minute or less, the audience makes a decision. 579 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 3: You know, do I love this character? Don't like them? Like? 580 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 3: Am I fascinated by this character or not? If you're not, 581 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 3: you know, you're done. That's it. You know, there's no 582 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 3: nothing you can do. You have to like, you have 583 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 3: to come in with something. And if somebody comes in 584 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 3: with that X factor, then you know, whether it's a 585 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 3: movie or a play, then they're magical and you just 586 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 3: watch them and you realize, oh shit, you know this 587 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 3: is really axhilarating. You know, it's like I believe this 588 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 3: person and you're so right, and you know, but you're right. 589 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 3: With all the streaming, there's I don't think that too 590 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 3: many people think like that. 591 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: You know, No, it's a sad lost art famous and 592 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: get a job and yeah, wait, you just did a 593 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: Brandow impersonation. It was brilliant. You do impersonations? Uh? 594 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 3: Sometimes? Yeah, you know some people I I I either 595 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: know or you know, I don't. 596 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: Have to do it here. But who else do you do. 597 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 3: Your adult you know, yeah, to see I want Viking funeral. 598 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 3: What I just focus. I don't want to Viking funeral. 599 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, I do a couple of people. Uh. The 600 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: brand that's one of my favorite because I like is 601 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 3: you know, it's so he has that very very cereblow. 602 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 3: You know, even though he's these sort of these thugs, 603 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 3: you know, he comes across the soul, sensitive and thoughtful. 604 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 3: It's it's interesting even when he even when he no 605 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 3: matter what character he plays, you know, it's I love 606 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 3: him a lot, you know, I like his performances. 607 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: Did you feel like after Rocky four that you got 608 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: type cast? 609 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 3: Well? I did in some ways. Yeah. I played obviously 610 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 3: another guy with no shirt. He man with a big sword, 611 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 3: and you know he was also a fighter, like a 612 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 3: warrior like Ivan Drago. And then I played Punisher, who 613 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 3: was a guy on a motorcycle with a shotgun and 614 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 3: so cool gene gun. And I played you know a 615 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 3: lot of action movies. You know. When I started studying acting, 616 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 3: I I was I was attracted to acting because it 617 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 3: gave me a chance to be emotional and like cry 618 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 3: on stage and be a fool. And you know, I 619 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,439 Speaker 3: trained with this guy named Warren Robertson in New York, 620 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 3: and he liked the primal scream and all this, you know, emotional. 621 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 3: I like to be emotional because I had all this 622 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 3: pain for my childhood. So I didn't really want to 623 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 3: be an action star. It was just, you know, that 624 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 3: role was perfect for me. And when I did a 625 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 3: good job in Rocky four, then yeah, here's another guy 626 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 3: who can kick ass and who looks like he could, 627 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 3: you know, looks looks like an action guy. And that's 628 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 3: the kind of movies I did. 629 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: You know, do you ever want to do a rom com? 630 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? I love rong coms. I like to cry and 631 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 3: you know. 632 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 2: How are you a comedy? 633 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,720 Speaker 3: I'm pretty good at comedy. 634 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 2: I think you know. I want to see you do 635 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 2: a comedy. 636 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 637 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: I want to see you and Stallone do like a 638 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: different version of like. 639 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 2: Dumb and dumber. 640 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,479 Speaker 3: Okay, that's not dumb, but. 641 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 2: Like you know, Jim Carre, like that would like something funny? Yeah, 642 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 2: can we set that up. 643 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 3: I've become a fighter because against singer dance. No, but 644 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 3: I think I think I would. Yeah, that's not a 645 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 3: bad idea. I actually get a comedy on actually comedy 646 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 3: that I'm developing, said in La the in show business 647 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 3: with kind of Hollywood movie with you know, some of 648 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 3: the expaniables. People learn that, so you know, it's it's 649 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 3: not a hilarious comedy, but it's a little bit like 650 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 3: a King of comedy that you know, squz pic. Sure 651 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 3: it's kind of serious but funny. 652 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 2: You probably do great physical comedy. 653 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, physical comedies. People like to see me do things. 654 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 3: That's you know. I think I realized that when I 655 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 3: was fighting that people wanted to watch me fight, you know, 656 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 3: whether I want or. 657 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 2: I just wanted to watch your cheekbones. 658 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, natural do things, kind of do things on film. 659 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 3: It's for some people, you know. So you have that 660 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,439 Speaker 3: thing where they want people want to see you do things. 661 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 3: So you write physical comedy be good. 662 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 2: That'd be awesome. 663 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: Do people ever slide into your d ms on Instagram? 664 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: Make your direct messages? 665 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 3: Do I? Yeah? You get some from friends getting weird ones, 666 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 3: weird ones not really not really super weird, do I? I? Uh? 667 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 3: I got I? Uh No, I don't read them, you know, 668 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 3: I mean my wife reason sometimes I I don't read 669 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 3: much of d M. So I accept if some like 670 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 3: Chuck Norris or somebody, and yeah, but uh no, I 671 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 3: I I don't really interact that much on Instagram, except 672 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 3: you know, when I have you know, if I have 673 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 3: something I want to spread, like a word about a 674 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 3: movie or something, I gotta do it. But and it's 675 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 3: a great tool. I love it. And you know, I 676 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 3: don't know, it's just it's a bit it's a bit 677 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 3: unnatural or something because you're talking to people you've never 678 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 3: met and you're very kind of it. Sometimes it gets 679 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 3: quite intimate or quite you know, personal. I would say, 680 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 3: you know, it's a bit I'm still not used to it. 681 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: I understand, Yeah, got it. Can you can you disclose 682 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: if you're going to be in the new he man. 683 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,720 Speaker 3: Oh, I can't say anything. 684 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 1: Okay, just blink once. If you are, I won't tell anyone. 685 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: It's a podcast, it's not visual. 686 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 3: Okay, Well I blink all the time. Whatever that means 687 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,240 Speaker 3: to your own conclusions. 688 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 2: You are ready. 689 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 3: A few secret projects you know that I'm playing around with. 690 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 3: I'll come out later. I got three. Actually, it's weird. 691 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 3: I've got all these things I can't talk about now. 692 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 3: It's so strange. It's never been like that before. 693 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 2: That's a cool thing. That means you got a lot 694 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 2: going on? 695 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, can. 696 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 2: How do you feel sorry? 697 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just got vangirled and like totally 698 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: blanked out. 699 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 2: Have you actually sorry? 700 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: This is so Rando. I like Rando questions because you've 701 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: been asked everything in your whole career. I'm sure. Have 702 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: you tried the infamous Swedish meatballs at Akia? 703 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're good. I've tried them, not in La, but 704 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 3: somewhere else. I can't remember where, but you know what, 705 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 3: I had meatballs today? 706 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 2: Do you make them dolf longer? And do you cook? 707 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 3: Oh? I didn't actually, but I went to a restaurant 708 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 3: in Stockholm with my parents in law and have some meatballs. 709 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 3: It was good. 710 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: Like is the linenberry sauce at Ikea? Is that authentic? 711 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,439 Speaker 2: That's what it is. Typically it is. 712 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 3: Pretty authentic and it comes with linenberries and those cucumbers 713 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 3: I believe, like salty cucumbers or some. 714 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: Sorry your own brand as potatoes. 715 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 2: Does your wife cook? 716 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a pretty good cook, which is great because 717 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 3: we live in La and I do find the difference 718 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 3: if you compare to steak Sweden. All the food here 719 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 3: is pretty clean, like you know, but I think in 720 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 3: La you can't eat really well, but you have to 721 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 3: be a little more proactive. And I think she's very 722 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 3: smart about that. So I think that's maybe another secret 723 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 3: I have that I eat really well. 724 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: Was that like a thing like where you're like, okay, 725 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: can you can you cook like Swedish cuisine? 726 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? Here, fill out this questionnaire question one. Can you 727 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 3: make meatballs? No? I uh, I just know when I'm. 728 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 2: Met her she can handle the balls. 729 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, she didn't cook that much, but as 730 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,720 Speaker 3: we yes, you know, the years pasted, she did learned 731 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 3: to cook or she ended up cooking more. And uh, 732 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 3: you know, I used to cook a little more in 733 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 3: the beginning, used to cook breakfast as such, But now 734 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 3: I don't cook much at all, just a little bit, 735 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 3: but not much, which is good because I'm busy. So 736 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 3: I'm glad she's doing it. 737 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 2: Definitely. 738 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 1: If you I don't even know if you ever do, 739 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: and I know you're super healthy, But if you had 740 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: to pick a fast food, what would be your favorite. 741 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 3: Best food? Is? Hamburger? Fast food? Burger burger with cheese, burger. 742 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 2: With fries, like what place? 743 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 3: H There is one in West Hollywood called Shake Shake Shock. 744 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 3: It's on. 745 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 2: Mass food. 746 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 3: Is that fast food? Now? 747 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 2: It's really good? I would consider that. 748 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: Now I'm talking like McDonald's, Burger King, Taco Bell. 749 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 3: No that now I could go for some for some 750 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 3: I hop I could go for some pancakes. But so pancakes, 751 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 3: I hop again. 752 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 2: Not fast food. But I didn't see that one coming. 753 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 2: Can we talk about your vodka hard cut? 754 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 3: Okay, what about it? Uh? It's this is the logo HC. 755 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 3: It's yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, it's sick potato vodka. 756 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 3: And me and my wife came up with the idea. 757 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 3: I just didn't like any of the vodkas out there. 758 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: And what was the reason you E didn't like the 759 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 1: other brands out there? 760 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 3: Well, I missed the taste. I missed that you cannot 761 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 3: drink it on ice, and you can't sip it because 762 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 3: it's too harsh and it burns your throat. It's like 763 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 3: aviation fuel. I didn't like that taste. That was the 764 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 3: main thing that I wanted, a very smooth vodka. And 765 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 3: I didn't know much about it, but it was kind 766 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 3: of exciting to delve into it and I realized, we 767 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 3: realized that potato vodka is a much smoother and there 768 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 3: are very few potato vodkets only like one or two 769 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,439 Speaker 3: percent in America potato vodckets, and there was a really 770 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 3: good chopine poland. But then we found one in America 771 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 3: in Idaho, Idaho potatoes. Of course, that was great. Document 772 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 3: and water. It's very very smooth. You can drink it 773 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 3: straight up. People like that. People are very surprised when 774 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 3: they try it. 775 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 2: And I don't know if I could do that. 776 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll send you a bottle. You just sip it 777 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 3: on ice or you can because it's overproof. It is 778 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 3: nighty proof, so when you put it in a cocktail, 779 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 3: it holds the ice better, it doesn't get us diluted, 780 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 3: and there's no clicks, so it's good. Like old the 781 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,720 Speaker 3: vodkas say the same thing, but we're all we taste 782 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 3: better over ice, smooth and also tastes better in a cocktail. 783 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 3: And that's that's That was the main thing. And then 784 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 3: then I just thought, well, I want to have a 785 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 3: little fun with vodka the way people have fun with tequila. 786 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 3: You know, brands, the vodka brands are kind of boring, 787 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 3: so I wanted to have a little fun with it 788 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 3: and you know, have a little kind of badass expendables vibes. 789 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,720 Speaker 2: So and I love that you say. 790 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you put it out there that you're a 791 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: self professed drinker, and there's nothing wrong with that. 792 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 3: No, I don't drink domb much. I work out a lot, 793 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 3: but I do like to have a cocktail once a 794 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 3: week maybe or sometimes twice. And and when I drink, 795 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 3: I like to drink some really good something I really 796 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 3: enjoy and i'd like to I don't have to, I 797 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,399 Speaker 3: don't have to abuse it. Just want to enjoy it. 798 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 3: It's relaxing and fun, you know. 799 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,720 Speaker 1: I know people always say like, oh, you can't drink, 800 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: like that's you know, especially when you get older, you 801 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: can't drink. 802 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 2: And it's interesting. You see these people that say. 803 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: She lived to be one hundred and nine and she 804 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,919 Speaker 1: had a sip of whiskey every single day. 805 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 2: Yes, but you know, like it's like, look. 806 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 3: I think if you have a little bit of alcohol, 807 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 3: I mean, you look at people who live in like 808 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 3: the Mediterranean region. I had a place in Spain for 809 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 3: twenty years and bea or you go to grease people, yeah, 810 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 3: drink a little bit, eat ruso, or they drink you know, wine, 811 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 3: and they live the longest. 812 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 2: It's very different than the United States. 813 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think I don't think alcohol has 814 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 3: a big time to do with unless you're an alcoholic. 815 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 3: But I mean if anything in moderation, you know, I 816 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 3: think what you eat is more important, you know, and 817 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 3: then if you have a drink or two in a week, 818 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 3: think that matters. Right. 819 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 2: So you can have some vodka, if you have some pancakes. 820 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 3: You can have vodka pancakes. 821 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 2: Vodka infused pancakes. 822 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 3: I don't know about that. Let me think about it. 823 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 3: And the syrup, the syrup maybe here, okay, okay, you 824 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 3: know we do have a five to one martini, which 825 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 3: is you know I have. I like the old school stuff, 826 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 3: the the what do you call it, the rat pack, 827 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 3: the martinis, the you know, the rocks, glasses, all that 828 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 3: kind of olives. Olives, yeah, green blue cheese are new. No, 829 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 3: I would say, are you telling green olives? No, no piano, 830 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 3: no pepper, and side because the pimento. 831 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a fan either. I love a good 832 00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 2: all of stuff with blue cheese. 833 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 3: Oh blue cheese, you mean and the drink or. 834 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,800 Speaker 2: In the olive into the drink. 835 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 3: I gotta try that and I haven't tried it. 836 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, a blue cheese stuffed all of martini. 837 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 2: You have to with hard cut vodka. We'll do it together. 838 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, we'll do together. 839 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a plan. And ice wise, like, does it 840 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: have to be those like big cubes or you sip 841 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: it over ice, so. 842 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 3: Have to be a big cube, except we that's kind 843 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 3: of a signature, look as the straight up over big cube, 844 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 3: only because it just the cube doesn't mount as quickly 845 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 3: so it doesn't dilute vodka too much. 846 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 2: I see. That's the reason. I just thought they always 847 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 2: look cool. 848 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, they look cool as well. You can get them. 849 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 3: I can get them with the with the ice stamp. 850 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 2: Really what Yeah? 851 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's just a little detail. But I think 852 00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 3: mostly it's because the alcohol, well you know, otherwise the 853 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 3: alcohol dilutes the ice and it becomes too diluted too fast. 854 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 3: If you have bar ice. Bar ice is good for shaking, 855 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 3: but not so much for a drink. 856 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I could listen to you talk about 857 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: this all day long. Okay, last question, Sorry, tell your 858 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: wife to put ear muffs on. 859 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 2: Has a girl ever said to you you must break me? 860 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 3: They may? I forgot, but I mean I may have 861 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 3: too much hard cut before now this is in the past. 862 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 2: That may have seen in the past, of course, yeah. 863 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 3: Maybe I think they've maybe said it and not perhaps 864 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 3: those words, but maybe somebody did say that. 865 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 2: Well, you were delightful. 866 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: I was so excited to have a conversation with you, 867 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,800 Speaker 1: just because it was Nostalgia is really big right now, 868 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: and I know you have so many new projects coming out, 869 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: but it's nice when we can hold onto things that 870 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: were during a time period that meant something and held 871 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: a special place in our hearts. So You've always had 872 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 1: that in my heart. So I was really excited to 873 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: talk to you today and I am super impressed. I 874 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 1: don't know, I think you're so fun. 875 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 3: Thanks Tory. You look great too, and it was great 876 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 3: to talk to you here. It was the best interview 877 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 3: I've ever had for for a long time. 878 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 2: Seriously, I appreciate that. Okay, wait, we're going to have 879 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 2: that drink together right with your wife, the three of us. 880 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 2: It will be like the new throufle I'm single now, 881 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 2: so okay, no problem. Perfect, Thank you, Bye Tory. Bye.