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Speaker 4: Little whip last year that the Falcons even won this

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Speaker 4: But for all the Falcons fans watching we should enjoy

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Speaker 4: Morris having his players out there hitting. Certainly it's an

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Speaker 3: How about trying to compete. Troy Aikman was with me.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's that's that's machismo. That's that's machizmo. That

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Speaker 3: That's that's what they call me, Greg machismo. Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: You walk around with your chest out.

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Speaker 2: I know you.

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Speaker 4: Sean McVay doesn't care about special teams. He consistently treats

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Speaker 4: are you are gonna stop? You know, the average kick

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Speaker 4: It's too a round like the between the thirty and

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Speaker 4: know what happens in this game, Shook. They have one

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Speaker 4: on that Jared Verse field goal block, the right.

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Speaker 2: Right for the dude is rejecting pipped up scoots going

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Speaker 1: Williams tab it Jared Verse with a caravan, he takes

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Speaker 3: How life.

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Speaker 1: Gate. That's such a good nickname.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that was so good. JB.

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Speaker 4: Long is the best. And you know what trench and

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Speaker 4: Let's let's let's show the guys that we trust him

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Speaker 3: I'm getting that's justify my point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that justifies my point. I would kick away from

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Speaker 5: But yeah, look, but I do think when it comes

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Speaker 4: They wanted this game, and I do think they kind

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Speaker 4: If you look at advanced stats EPA per play success rate,

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Speaker 4: And I do think if I just had to predict

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Speaker 4: I don't want to put it on the voters. I

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Speaker 1: And maybe I'm coming from a place of luxury and

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Speaker 4: I thought you were going to mention the Falcons game

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Speaker 3: Now May play the best against him.

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Speaker 4: May is the one that got the win against him

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Speaker 4: a really interesting argument.

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Speaker 3: In general.

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Speaker 4: We have a comment here that's saying, you know, Drake

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Speaker 4: May's doing it with worse receivers, worse offensive line. That's true,

441
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Speaker 4: and I think that is sort of a point in

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Speaker 4: May's favor. The system is great for him, but ultimately

443
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Speaker 4: he's been under a ton of pressure without a ton

444
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Speaker 4: of talent around him all year. Stafford, on the other hand,

445
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Speaker 4: has played an absolute gauntlet of a schedule.

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Speaker 3: While May, according to.

447
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Speaker 4: DVOA, has played the easiest schedule for opposing offenses, Stafford

448
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Speaker 4: and the Rams have maybe played the hardest schedule in

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Speaker 4: the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Like, that's a point for Stafford. I watch.

451
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Speaker 4: I watched each and every snap, like both guys have

452
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Speaker 4: taken each year, and they've both been really special. It's

453
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Speaker 4: it's kind of silly to me, Like, the only people

454
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Speaker 4: that annoy me in this argument are the Patriots fans

455
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Speaker 4: or the Rams fans that I follow on Twitter, and

456
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Speaker 4: because of my rooting interests, I follow a lot of

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Speaker 4: both of them that are so strident that it's so

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Speaker 4: clearly one or the other.

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Speaker 3: Just shut up.

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Speaker 4: It's a beauty it's a beauty contest, and you're basically

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Speaker 4: choosing which guy looks better in the bikini, and you're

462
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Speaker 4: picking the guy that you like because he plays for

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Speaker 4: your team, and the neutral voter it's just kind of

464
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Speaker 4: just picking what on vibes or whatever they want because

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Speaker 4: they've it's all about what you like. I a lot

466
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Speaker 4: of the really smart people out there like me, and

467
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Speaker 4: I think a lot of the smart people like Stafford,

468
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Speaker 4: and he to me, has the more of the narrative

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Speaker 4: that would normally win the award.

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Speaker 3: But it's all, it's all kind of silly.

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Speaker 4: They're both great options vibes and it's it's not really

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Speaker 4: a big difference, So shut up to everyone who.

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Speaker 1: Says that it's vibes. It's personal preference, and it's I

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Speaker 1: would say bias, and it's voter fatigue. All three of

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Speaker 1: those come into play.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't think either one of them have vote

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Speaker 4: any voter VERTI that's always an element.

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Speaker 1: That's always an element.

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Speaker 4: A lot of times it is, and it would have

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Speaker 4: hurt Josh Allen or Lamar this year. I think Josh

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Speaker 4: Allen played his way out of it. They've they've both

482
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Speaker 4: just done some exceptional things and I think the degree

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Speaker 4: of difficulty for both of them on so many throws

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Speaker 4: each and every week. And that's why Drake Navy's numbers

485
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Speaker 4: on the plus twenty throws are just outrageous, are so

486
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Speaker 4: high and anyway, they both would be really worthy. You

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Speaker 4: know who we haven't talked about enough Tonight it's time

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Speaker 4: for Who Delivered, presented by Uber. Let's talk about Jean

489
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Speaker 4: Robinson because he had some runs in this game, and

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Speaker 3: We love you.

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Speaker 4: You can watch one of the best, like five yard runs.

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Speaker 4: We could have picked out a two yard run in

495
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Speaker 4: this game. We could have picked out a five yard run.

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Speaker 4: Here is a run in the third quarter where he

497
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Speaker 4: makes two jump cuts and when you're watching the original

498
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Speaker 4: TV copy, you don't even think it's anything special, and

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Speaker 4: then you realize, Pooniford beats his block, he's in the hole.

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Speaker 3: Who's ninety?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 4: Kobe Turner beats his block, He's in the hole. Robinson

503
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Speaker 4: makes them both miss and then he drags another defender

504
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Speaker 4: for another four yards and he was absolutely outrageous in

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Speaker 4: this game, goes over two hundred yards from scrimmage. It's

506
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Speaker 4: so ridiculous, Shook. He averaged over two hundred yards from

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Speaker 4: scrimmage in these four prime time games. Would I looked

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Speaker 4: it up because I was like, man, he has been

509
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Speaker 4: outstanding in these games. And he went for two hundred

510
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Speaker 4: and twenty nine yards from scrimmage tonight in the other

511
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Speaker 4: four priming time games one seventy seven, two thirty eight,

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Speaker 4: one seventy five. I mean, we just haven't seen another

513
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Speaker 4: guy like him. I as good as McCaffrey's been, I

514
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Speaker 4: think he might be my my you know, either Offensive

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Speaker 4: Player of the Year or first team All Pro at

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Speaker 4: running back.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that a little later this week.

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Speaker 1: Are we missing one more too? Because that average might

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Speaker 1: actually be below because we got to think about the

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Speaker 1: Falcons Buccaneers game, right, But regardless, he's had a fantastic

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Speaker 1: run this season. Look, Raheem Morris has talked about this

522
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Speaker 1: since the start of the season, essentially that he believes

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Speaker 1: he's the best player in football, and he's not wrong.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the best players in football. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I'm gonna call him the best player in football.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of frustration that is associated

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Speaker 1: with the Falcons coaching staff and specifically Zach Robinson, in

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Speaker 1: the fact that they just go away from him for

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Speaker 1: entire stretches of games. Uh, and maybe that explains why

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Speaker 1: they are where they are record wise. But a weapon

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Speaker 1: like that is always prime to break out, no matter

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Speaker 1: the stage, whether it's primetime, whether it's a one o'clock

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Speaker 1: window on a sun because he is just different. You know,

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Speaker 1: that highlight that we just played reminded me of sitting

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Speaker 1: in the suite at Lucas Soil Stadium at the Combine

536
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Speaker 1: and watching him do the bag drill and watching him

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Speaker 1: do the deuce daily drill, and watching how he just visually,

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Speaker 1: when you're sitting there, you can see the difference between

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Speaker 1: the guys who are going to be elite and guys

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Speaker 1: who could beat all right or maybe won't last very long,

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Speaker 1: very visible from that moment, clearly the best running back

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Speaker 1: in this class by a mile because of the way

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Speaker 1: he moved. He's big, he glides, he's explosive, he's light

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Speaker 1: on his feet. He does everything well. He makes men miss.

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Speaker 1: And when he made those two guys miss, I just

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Speaker 1: thought about him cutting around the bags in Indianapolis. It's

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Speaker 1: just carried over a transition and he only continues to

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Speaker 1: get better and better. And they would be so wise

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Speaker 1: to build their offense around him more frequently than they

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Speaker 1: did there were times this year and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's just because they want Tyler Algier involved, which

552
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: is fine, he's a good power back, but like this

553
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Speaker 1: is a player that can carry your team even in

554
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Speaker 1: today's modern NFL, because you can also catch the ball

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Speaker 1: out of the backfield. Excellent night for him.

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Speaker 4: Twenty seven touches total. He got five catches for thirty

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Speaker 4: four yards. And you were talking about that Bucks game,

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Speaker 4: how dare you shook question next? Greg's stats which was

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Speaker 4: scratched out right before we started that primetime game against

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Speaker 4: the Bucks. Yes, ninety three yards rushing, eight catches, eighty

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Speaker 4: two yards receiving. If he's not getting it done as

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Speaker 4: the running back, he's their number two receiver at least

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Speaker 4: when you know Drake London was hurt for a while.

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Speaker 3: And Troy Aikman.

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Speaker 4: When you hear Troy Aikman, who I love for a

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Speaker 4: lot of reasons, but one is that, unlike myself, he's

567
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Speaker 4: not prone to hyperberly. He is very cautious to say player,

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Speaker 4: you know, put players in historical context, and when he

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Speaker 4: starts comparing him to Barry Sanders and is just saying like,

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Speaker 4: there aren't many runners that have come out around since

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Speaker 4: Barry Sanders that could be at that level. I get

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Speaker 4: it because for me personally, I've covered the league since

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Speaker 4: two thousand and three, and I think just in terms

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Speaker 4: of total package as good as McCaffrey is, and there's

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Speaker 4: been some great great backs in terms of just pure

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Speaker 4: total package talent, Like the guys that he reminds me

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Speaker 4: of is Ladanian, Tomlinson and Marshall fought like in terms

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Speaker 4: of just being literally that good. Like that's how far

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Speaker 4: back I have to go to find a guy. And

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Speaker 4: we're splitting Harris Becausejumir Gibs is crazy and McCaffrey's crazy,

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Speaker 4: But with Bijon, he is just he's just something special

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Speaker 4: and it's really cool that he did it in four

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Speaker 4: primetime wins this season.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: That was who Delivered presented by Uber Eats. When football

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Speaker 3: Order.

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Speaker 4: Now, do you have one last Bijon point you want

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Speaker 4: to make? Or should I tell you what the Falcons

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Speaker 4: did in primetime this year?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is outrageous.

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Speaker 1: I figured out the other primetime game we were missing.

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Speaker 1: It was the Niners game, in which Bijon went fourteen

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Speaker 1: for forty six catches for fifty two.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you can absolutely question next.

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Speaker 1: Those numbers might come down, but it's still impressive. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: I just had to figure out which game was I missing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I forgot about that one though, twenty to ten

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Speaker 4: loss Man. The schedule makers were so high on the

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Speaker 4: Falcons this season. Who get a double victory, by the

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Speaker 4: way in this game, because not only do they win,

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Speaker 4: but they make the Rams draft pick that they traded

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Speaker 4: for Atlanta a little worse, just a little revenge game

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Speaker 4: for the Falcons because all these Rams fans have been

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Speaker 4: enjoying owning this Falcons pick, which looked incredible three weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: But with three straight wins, it's closer to the middle

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Speaker 4: of the first round instead of the top eight or

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Speaker 4: nine picks.

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Speaker 3: That forty nine Ers loss.

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Speaker 4: Good note the only blemish on the primetime schedule. They

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Speaker 4: beat JJ McCarthy and the Vikings twenty two to six.

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Speaker 4: They beat Josh Allen and the Bills twenty four to fourteen.

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Speaker 4: They won that Bucks game by a point a couple

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Speaker 4: weeks back, and now they beat the Rams here, So

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Speaker 4: four and one in primetime, do you think it's enough

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Speaker 4: to save Raheem Morris's job?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: I always like to reference the one year in what

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Speaker 1: Eric manngini Wan was is final four games with the

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Speaker 1: Browns and got another year with them and then was

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Speaker 1: a dumpster fire the next year. And while the Falcons

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Speaker 1: are not the Browns, they do own some similarities and

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Speaker 1: that they listen to what the outside people say in

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Speaker 1: motivating how they proceed with their team. I think that

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Speaker 1: it's I could see and this is going to be crazy,

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Speaker 1: because usually this does not work out. But I could

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Speaker 1: see a scenario in which they make front office changes

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Speaker 1: and they keep Raheem and they make an offensive coordinator change,

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Speaker 1: so like there's changes somewhere, but they keep the head coach.

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Speaker 1: Because clearly, what is the most important thing that everybody

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Speaker 1: likes to point to late in the season for a

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Speaker 1: team that's not making the playoffs and the head coaches

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Speaker 1: on the hot seat, is the team still playing for him?

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Speaker 1: And clearly this team is still playing for him. Defensive

636
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Speaker 1: minded head coach. He got investment in his defense in

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Speaker 1: the offseason. We've seen how they've been better in the

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Speaker 1: pass rush. This year, we saw guys like Xavier Watts

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Speaker 1: making plays, Jesse Bates making plays in the secondary. These

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Speaker 1: are all encouraging pieces of evidence that he should stay,

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Speaker 1: that they are playing for him, that they are figuring

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Speaker 1: it out. But ultimately it comes down to this, what

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Speaker 1: is their future with Michael Pennix, because this whole stretch

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Speaker 1: has been with Kirk Cousins, a guy that I told

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Speaker 1: you was playing a good quarterback, and he was playing

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Speaker 1: good quarterback even though he wasn't a huge part of night.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't great tonight. Let's he was solid in the

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Speaker 4: first half. He was solid in the first half. And

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Speaker 4: I'm glad he brought up Kirk Cousins because it's actually

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Speaker 4: time for quarterback keeper presented by a snap dragon, and yeah,

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Speaker 4: the quarterback decision is gonna be massive. What do you

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Speaker 4: think because Pennix got hurt in terms of his ACL

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Speaker 4: so late in this season. It's an injury he's had before.

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Speaker 4: And I did think it was interesting that Troy Aikman

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Speaker 4: cited some coaches on the field that he talked to

656
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 4: who apparently posited, hey, don't be surprised if Kirk Cousins

657
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 4: is still on this team. In twenty twenty six. I

658
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 4: have a few things to say about that. I'm curious

659
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 4: what you think.

660
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: Well, so, he's one of the top guys that I

661
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: look at in the off season as a potential trade

662
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: candidate for teams that need a bridge, that needs somebody

663
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: to stabilize a position. In fact, I wrote a piece

664
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: about this in place of QB Index last week. Three

665
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: quarterback trades I like to see this offseason. One of

666
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: them was Kirk Cousins to Cleveland because of his history

667
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: with Kevin Stefanski and how he could be bridge for

668
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: whoever they go with long term. Financially, it's a little

669
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: bit of a hurdle, but he is still an expensive

670
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: backup that becomes more valuable if you don't believe that

671
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix is going to be one hundred percent ready,

672
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: or maybe you don't believe that he can carry you

673
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: through an entire season next year because of the injury

674
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: and because of whatever else, Do you still have the

675
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Speaker 1: same confidence and optimism in him that you did the

676
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: year before. Those two are tied. These decisions are tied together.

677
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: They neither can be independent, neither can be made in

678
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: a vacuum. And I think it also comes down to

679
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: are you keeping Raheem, Because if you're keeping Raheem, you

680
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: need to win. And if you need to win, you

681
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: need to have more than one option at quarterback. And

682
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: at that point, you keep Kirk Cousins because of what

683
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: he's done this season coming in as a backup, he

684
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: stabilizes it much like he would for other options. So

685
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: it's an interesting decision that they'll have to make. I

686
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: would side more toward them keeping him and just biting

687
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: the cost that it's going to be in their salary cap.

688
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: And that's fine because they've realized the value of having

689
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: an experienced backup, which a lot of other teams don't have.

690
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: But it's still far from certain right now.

691
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so complex, and this is a good time

692
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 4: to talk about it because Cousins tonight showed like he's

693
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: not the solution to everything. I think he's been playing

694
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 4: good football. I think they've been a better offense with

695
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins. Michael Pennix was setting up pretty low floor

696
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 4: this year. It was a disappointing season. He did not

697
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 4: fit in this offense. They're clearly going to change offensive coordinators,

698
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 4: even if they don't change Raheem Morris. It gets complicated

699
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: for a few reasons. When Troy Aikman said that, I

700
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 4: was thinking, yeah, but those coaches aren't going to be

701
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 4: there next year, so like, who cares what they think?

702
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 4: And three straight wins, maybe if you finish off next

703
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 4: week in New Orleans that has an emotional you know,

704
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 4: resonance with Arthur Blanket. It shouldn't, but maybe that game

705
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 4: ends up mattering for the Falcons, whether they win or lose,

706
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: you know, winning four straight, maybe he'll think, Okay, let's

707
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 4: stay the course. The buzz that you kind of heard

708
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 4: around the league was they were going to make a

709
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 4: change that you know, Fontina has been there for their

710
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 4: GM has been there for four years. He's got two

711
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 4: different coaches, so I think in the ownership's mind they've

712
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 4: had this regime now for a while.

713
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: It's not just Raheem Morris.

714
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: We saw the report from Jay Glazier that they might

715
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 4: be bringing to Matthew Matt Ryan as a front office EXAs.

716
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: Which would be hilarious by the way, given how font

717
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: No got rid of it.

718
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 4: Right, So if Matt Ryan's coming in, I would assume

719
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 4: he's not going to be the GM, but maybe it's

720
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 4: in a sort of president you know.

721
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: Figure, or that he's helping.

722
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's helping to hire the next GM and coach,

723
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 4: and then you would have to think everyone's gone Raheem Morris,

724
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 4: the's coaches and that that next you know, administration is

725
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 4: going to make a decision on Kirkkauz. Now, either way

726
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: you think about it, you look at his contract, it's

727
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 4: not it's not quite as bad as you remember. Now

728
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 4: because there's ten million dollars left of guaranteed money. You

729
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 4: got to pay him that regardless. Okay, there's also a

730
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: bonus five days into the year, which is I think

731
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 4: another ten million, So you got to make the decision quick.

732
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 4: You got to either cut him or try to trade

733
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 4: him before that. He's doing thirty five million dollars, which

734
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 4: sounds like a lot for Kirk cousins in twenty twenty six.

735
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 4: It is, it's too much, but it's not that that

736
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: crazy for a bridge.

737
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: Quarterback, not when you have a rookie on a rookie contract.

738
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 3: Right.

739
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 4: My guess is they will try to see if they

740
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: can get anything in the trade for him, and.

741
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: The crazy part is they might just get.

742
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 4: Something well, right, you know, So they'll pretend that they're

743
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 4: going to keep them, and then we're at the combine

744
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 4: and there's a trade and it's like you got like

745
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: a fourth round pick or a fourth to fifth swap,

746
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 4: and we spend way too many NFL Daily episodes in

747
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 4: the meantime talking about it. I'm not looking forward to that,

748
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 4: but that could be an outcome no matter who is

749
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 4: running this team.

750
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: I was just envisioning as you were getting to that

751
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: point there of being in Indianapolis and being at like

752
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: a hotel or some restaurant and being like, so, what's

753
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: the latest on Kirk Cousins, just because like, that's that's

754
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: gonna be one of the things that's got to happen then,

755
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: because we're going to be right on the prespice of

756
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: the new league year and then when that bonus is

757
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: going to come in. So yeah, I think you're absolutely right.

758
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: But they'll get something, but they won't get that much

759
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: because of the money that's attached to you.

760
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 4: They might not get anything. I'm just thinking out loud.

761
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 4: I think it's possible.

762
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: Something could be a Day three pick, an early Day

763
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: three pick, but the money attached to it is going

764
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 1: to lower the return on him. And is it worth

765
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: it at that point? It only happens then, like you said,

766
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: if there's a full regime changer. So I'm not one

767
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: hundred percent certain is coming.

768
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 4: Right, Penni's not playing well, really complicated. So do you

769
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 4: want to start over? Do you want to start from scratch?

770
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 4: Those are all questions for the offseason. For now, the

771
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 4: Rams will keep playing. The Falcons have one more game

772
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 4: against the Saints. That was Quarterback Keeper, presented by Snapdragon.

773
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 4: Learn more at snapdragon dot com slash laptops.

774
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: The other big item.

775
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 4: From this game is the impact on the NFC South Race.

776
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 4: It started filtering out Sunday afternoon, this little nugget that

777
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 4: I frankly didn't put much stock into. I was like, Oh,

778
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 4: those are one of those cool little playoff scenario nuggets.

779
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 3: I love that.

780
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 4: Actually, the Panthers could lose in Week eighteen to the Buccaneers,

781
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: fall to eight and nine, but still win the division

782
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 4: if the Falcons won out and there was a three

783
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: way tie at eight and nine, and I kind of

784
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 4: dismissed it, you know, it's like, Wow, what are the

785
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 4: odds of that all happening? Well, the Bucks did lose

786
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 4: to the Dolphins, wasn't shocked by that.

787
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: In fact, they picked it.

788
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 4: That was a good pick.

789
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: Panthers lose.

790
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 4: But the one I didn't expect to happen is the

791
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 4: Falcons actually did beat the Rams. So now the Falcons

792
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 4: Saints game next week takes on bigger meeting. The Saints

793
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 4: have won what four straight now, and the Falcons have

794
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: won three straight. And the crazy part is if the

795
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 4: Bucks win that game next week, it will be a

796
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 4: three way tie at eight and nine like the Saint

797
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 4: You know, the Saints will have Wait now, the Saints

798
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 4: will have gotten the seven wins, the Falcons will have

799
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 4: gotten the eight wins. It is crazy that this team

800
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 4: that's been out of the playoffs for like a month,

801
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 4: the Falcons could end up in a first place tie.

802
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: It's just all the tie breakers that will cancel them out.

803
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 4: So the Panthers were watching this game, and I'm sure

804
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: they don't want to go into the playoffs losing, but

805
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 4: they're probably pumping their fists there when that final Kuka

806
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 4: Nakua catch was ruled out of bound.

807
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but can you imagine a scenario and this is

808
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: all in the same window. No, wait, we have the

809
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: Saturday game against between the Bucks and Pans.

810
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 4: Yes, the interesting thing here is if the Bucks win

811
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 4: that game. Now, thinking about Saturday, we actually won't know

812
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 4: who won the division until Sunday. The Bucks will celebrate,

813
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 4: but it's going to be very strange and awkward. They're

814
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: at home, like, do you fire the cannons if you

815
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: don't win the division? I don't think that you do.

816
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 4: You certainly aren't doing any T shirts and hats. It's

817
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: going to be a very strange situation that I wonder

818
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 4: if you know the ABC executives and everyone were even

819
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 4: thinking about when they when they put in that Saturday afternoons.

820
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: So much intrigue now though, because if you've watched the

821
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: Saints over the last month, yes, they played a soft schedule,

822
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: but they did beat the Panthers during that stretch. They're

823
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: also one of the most electric fourth quarter teams that

824
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: you'll find over the last month because Taiwan, that's the.

825
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: Best rivalry in football Week eight see is saved.

826
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I've never been more excited about a Falcon

827
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: Saints game in Week eighteen because I love the idea

828
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: of a team that's basically eliminated playing spoiler just for

829
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: the fun of it. I love chaos.

830
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was Week eighteen, but when

831
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: Jamal Williams and Jamis Winston decided to you know, run

832
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 4: that extra play that ye Allen didn't want to rub

833
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 4: it in on the Falcons, that was truly electric.

834
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: That was almost a midfield fight between Dennis Allen and

835
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith.

836
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 4: And anyone who's in the comments questioning whether the Falcons

837
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 4: and Saints are the best rivalry in the league. I mean,

838
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 4: Raven Steelers are up there, but in terms of pure

839
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 4: fan hatred, they are right there. So congratulations to the Falcons.

840
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 4: There is almost no better team in the NFL than

841
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 4: the Falcon after they've been eliminated. Love this stat I

842
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: saw on Blue Sky tonight. Since twenty eighteen, they are

843
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 4: fifty three and seventy eight in games before they're eliminated

844
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 4: from playoff contention, twenty five games under five hundred. After

845
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 4: being eliminated from playoff contention, they're twelve and four. Like

846
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: they're getting a playoff by you know that they are

847
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 4: since win or in their games the Falcons since twenty eighteen,

848
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 4: so not a ton of games since they've been you know,

849
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 4: end of season games that don't matter.

850
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 3: They are twelve and four. In those games, they did

851
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: it again.

852
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: So let's just start the season. Just tell them, hey,

853
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: you're eliminated. Go play ball.

854
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 4: What a night we might have seen the MVP decided,

855
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 4: and indirectly we might end up seeing the NFC South decided.

856
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: We will be back on Tuesday. Can't wait. NFL daily

857
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 4: every day this week. Back to full schedule. It's time

858
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 4: for the final QB Island of the season. This was

859
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: our last regular season recap of the season. It has

860
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 4: been a pleasure shook, but we will be back for

861
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 4: the playoffs. They have a Monday night game in the

862
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 4: Wildcard round, so we'll be going live then.

863
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: We're going live on Sunday night. We will see you

864
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 3: then