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Speaker 2: What up? What up? Brady?

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Speaker 4: Happy New Year? Jonas, Yeah, I'll see you.

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Speaker 5: I hope you were able to joy all the games yesterday,

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Speaker 5: all the fest cities. I know you still worked in

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Speaker 5: this time slot. However, many many took some time off

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Speaker 5: just to watch a ball hang with the family and friends.

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Speaker 4: That's what we were doing.

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Speaker 5: So we actually was at one of the games, so

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Speaker 5: there was some boots on the ground for the Orange Bowl,

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Speaker 5: so that was a ton of fun. But I'll start

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Speaker 5: off by asking this question, how long do you get

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Speaker 5: to say Happy New Year to someone?

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty much it.

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Speaker 5: I think you should just say so after today. If

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Speaker 5: you say happy new to someone, you're a jerky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Basically, you were the main event of the Happy New Year.

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Speaker 3: And anybody that says it after you, they're just they're

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Speaker 3: a fraud. Like it's worn out, it's welcome, we are done.

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Speaker 3: You just said the last one, and now you got

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Speaker 3: to move on to twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: So you're not going to say Happy New Year to

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Speaker 5: LeVar when you see him on Monday.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: of course not. I didn't even say it to my wife. No,

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Speaker 3: please come on, no, that's not happening. Yeah, it's over.

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Speaker 3: You were the last one. So anybody that said just

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Speaker 3: you're put on notice. Anybody that says that the rest

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Speaker 3: of the day, you are a fraud. You're living a

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Speaker 3: lie and you are trying to carry on it.

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Speaker 2: It is what I don't make these.

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Speaker 4: Rules to do this.

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Speaker 2: I don't make these rules.

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Speaker 5: January second and twenty twenty six. And you can't have

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Speaker 5: more of a rosy attitude. Speaking of Rosie. By the way,

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Speaker 5: what about that rules?

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Speaker 2: How about you? Look at you, mister Segway King, look

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Speaker 2: at you.

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Speaker 3: Can I tell you, just because the nuances of football

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Speaker 3: you've forgotten more than ninety nine percent of the planet.

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Speaker 3: I'll just say this that there are certain games where

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Speaker 3: you watch and you don't need to know the nuances.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to know the fine details. You can

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Speaker 3: just look at it and it is completely obvious to

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Speaker 3: the untrained eye. Indiana is so much better than Alabama.

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Speaker 3: It's almost shocking. Like I was watching the game going

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Speaker 3: you know what reminded me of It reminded me of

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Speaker 3: when SEC teams in the early two thousands or mid

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Speaker 3: two thousands were playing other teams like that's it like

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Speaker 3: it's almost like roles reverse, like those old Florida teams

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Speaker 3: where you're watching and it looks like two different levels

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Speaker 4: I am Look, I'm still shocked.

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Speaker 5: I still keep thinking that I'm like a sleep and

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Speaker 5: I'm dreaming and I'm watching a team that I mean,

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Speaker 5: if you go back to the Big Ten Championship. We

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Speaker 5: I believe Indiana was the second most losing program in

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Speaker 4: I remember, like looking at some of the notes of.

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Speaker 5: How Ohio State has like the second most wins something

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Speaker 5: like that, and the difference between Ohio State and their

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Speaker 5: program history of wins in Indiana, that difference, I think

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Speaker 5: everyone involved, when we talk about what they've done, not

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Speaker 4: As this dream ever gonna good?

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Speaker 6: End?

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Speaker 5: This year solidified the foundation of what they did last

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Speaker 5: year and what they're doing this year. To me, it's

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Speaker 5: the greatest turnaround in sports history, like I can't think

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Speaker 5: of some people talked about Kansas State.

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Speaker 4: This is way beyond that.

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Speaker 5: You throw me out a professional sports franchise, that's a

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Speaker 5: bigger turnaround a team that was largely viewed as a doormat.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I can't tell you. I visited there back

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Speaker 5: when I was in high school. A buddy, Adam Cadello,

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Speaker 5: who's a linebacker, who was looking to go there too,

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Speaker 4: A football school. This is a basketball school.

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Speaker 5: Man Like coming off obviously on Bobby Knight and that

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Speaker 5: you know growing up watching him when I was young

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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Speaker 5: I still can't fathom what they've accomplished. And what sticks

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Speaker 5: out the most to me, Jonas is being at the

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Speaker 5: Big Ten championship game and big around this team. When

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Speaker 5: you see them up close, you know they don't It

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Speaker 5: looks like David and Goliath, Like I know that reference.

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Speaker 4: Gets thrown around a bunch.

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Speaker 5: But when you look at the sheer size of the

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Speaker 5: name you're in Oregon, for example, who they beat earlier

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Speaker 5: they're either winning that one on one matchup, I don't

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Speaker 5: Like they just don't do the things that other teams

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Speaker 5: incredible to watch how they time and time again end

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Speaker 4: And look, I was wrong. I said I thought Bama

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Speaker 5: I didn't think they were gonna win necessarily because I

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Speaker 5: be in the playoff for that matter, but that's another conversation.

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Speaker 5: But just from being down there and seeing those players,

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Speaker 5: it's incredible when you look at what they up against

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Speaker 5: every week. And it'll be that way again as they

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Speaker 5: have a rematch now versus Oregon again, they will be

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Speaker 5: outmatched by as far as the the eye test, you know,

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Speaker 5: But they have constantly overachieved and this is a damn

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Speaker 3: The hit on ty Simpson where he was scrambling, which

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Speaker 3: it was ten to nothing at that point, and it

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Speaker 3: was like, all right, if they could get down and

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Speaker 3: just a different level, Like they're playing Indiana's playing at

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Speaker 3: a different level than we've seen before, and it should

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Speaker 3: I just come away from that, yeah, really impressed, but shocked.

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Speaker 3: first time Alabama's been held without a touchdown in a

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Speaker 3: bowl game since nineteen sixty. I mean, they got clowned

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Speaker 3: that wasn't closed yesterday and Indiana just did whatever they

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Speaker 2: It was really really impressive.

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Speaker 5: And look, you know, I think we can be critical

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Speaker 5: you're Alabama, Like you can't run the football like downhill

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Speaker 5: again credit to Indiana, you know, defensively, and we've talked

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Speaker 5: You don't hear you know, usually pre snap, a lot

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Speaker 5: and there's elements of that that take place on every level.

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Speaker 5: But when you watch them, it's so fluid. They never

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Speaker 5: They do all those little things that like you hear

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Speaker 5: credit to the staff. You know, his staff has been

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Speaker 5: Like the offense, defense especially is all working in unison.

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Speaker 5: And then they have a quarterback who you know, is

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Speaker 5: plays when something is not there. He finds a way

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Speaker 5: He gets upfield, he gets what he can it's positive

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Speaker 5: yardage or back to the line of scrimmage. You know,

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Speaker 5: he throws the football away. I just the entire group

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Speaker 5: know they got to buy couldn't figure it out in

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Speaker 5: that quarterfinal round.

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Speaker 4: Not the case for Indiana.

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Speaker 5: Like they're taking every narrative and they're throwing it out

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Speaker 4: And I think the spin off of this conversation is

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Speaker 4: like this is a.

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Speaker 5: Program that again has been a doormat in college football

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Speaker 7: Who would start Urt Signetti in the movie.

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Speaker 8: I don't know about that one, but there'd been a

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Speaker 2: Because it's all about people.

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Speaker 8: You gotta have the right people on your staff, the

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Speaker 7: Perfectly said, perfect gratulations.

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Speaker 4: Champ Man. I'm telling and I don't say this much.

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Speaker 3: Look, I know it's it's way too early to start

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Speaker 2: They were terrible, terrible, Like a lot of Patriots fans

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Speaker 5: Well, and that's where even like, because I was talking

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Speaker 4: There's nothing like this, No, like there's been nothing.

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Speaker 4: In Indiana history. And I don't know that it's gonna

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Speaker 5: So replacing Mendoza, replacing some of these players, you're going

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Speaker 4: Or not that person is the right fit.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's one of the biggest things that

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Speaker 3: doing what they did at the Sugar Bowl last night.

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Speaker 3: Trinidad Chamliss from Fairs State to the Yeah, he was

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Speaker 4: That was really what he was making plays the entire game.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there was a back to back series of

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Speaker 4: Seen this entire season in college football.

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Speaker 5: Like his little kind of backing out of the pockets,

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Speaker 4: But you know, he's he to me and been watching

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Speaker 5: I wasn't sure based on how all miss started the season,

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Speaker 5: you know, if he would be able to kind of

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Speaker 5: take over and beat the guy. He has been everything

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Speaker 5: as advertised, and I.

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Speaker 4: Think, look the win.

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Speaker 5: It's a huge moment for Pete Golding, who helped take

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Speaker 5: over this team and stabilize it. It's a credit to

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Speaker 5: the coaches who came back and wanted to coach because

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Speaker 5: clearly there's a riff there and you know they had

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Speaker 5: to plead with Lane Kiffin to do so. But it's

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Speaker 5: also kind of a sad moment where you think about

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Speaker 5: the fact that that's one of the This is a

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Speaker 5: team that's overcome so many distractions to be able to

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Speaker 5: make it to this point potentially not even play for

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Speaker 5: a national championship, and their head coaches has moved on

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Speaker 5: and I'm not here to, like, you know, cast blame

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Speaker 5: on Lane Kiff and everything else. I think it's a

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Speaker 5: greater issue of the college football calendar that Dan Lanning

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Speaker 5: actually drew a lot of attention to in his press

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Speaker 5: conference before the Orange Bowl and saying like, this whole

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Speaker 5: schedule needs.

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Speaker 4: To be revamped.

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Speaker 5: You know, even if we able to move up the

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Speaker 5: regular season to week zero, the fact that we have

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Speaker 5: a coach who's moved on their team now is playing

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Speaker 5: the semi final is an example of like, we shouldn't

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Speaker 5: have to be doing that. The portal window opens today,

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Speaker 5: there's still four teams playing for a national championship, and

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Speaker 5: there's players on those teams who know they may not

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Speaker 5: be playing next year in their current position and have

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Speaker 5: to make a decision at some point here soon whether

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Speaker 5: or not they're going to transfer. That's putting them in

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Speaker 5: a terrible position. That's putting coach who are coaching right

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Speaker 5: now at Old Miss, And there's some uncertainty of whether

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Speaker 5: or not some of those assistant coaches who have been

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Speaker 5: with Old Miss but are going to be eventually at

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Speaker 5: LSU are going to even continue to coach. Yeah, as

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Speaker 5: this thing draws even closer. So it just the entire

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Speaker 5: thing is a bit of a mess. And as much

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Speaker 5: as it's amazing to see what Old Miss has done,

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Speaker 5: it also kind of highlights a little bit of the

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Speaker 5: issues that we're facing college football.

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Speaker 2: So this from ESPN.

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Speaker 3: With the portal opening obviously today, the Rebels aren't certain

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Speaker 3: that they will have all of those assistants that have

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Speaker 3: helped them and helped them last night in the Sugar Bowl.

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Speaker 3: They're not sure if they'll have all those assistants with

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Speaker 3: the team when they play the Hurricanes in six days.

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Speaker 3: A source said some of the assistants have apparently pushed

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Speaker 3: back on leaving an Ole Miss team that is two

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Speaker 3: victories away from winning a national championship. Quote, there are

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Speaker 3: going to be some fireworks. An Ole Miss source told ESPN.

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Speaker 3: We always knew this might be a possibility. So, I mean,

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Speaker 3: how could you leave? And if you're Lane Kiffin, what

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Speaker 3: you're getting paid, dude, Like he's getting his he's getting

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Speaker 3: his share, But I get it, he's got to look

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Speaker 3: It just it feels like this was maybe the worst,

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Speaker 3: other than the financial aspect, the worst outcome for LSU

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Speaker 3: and Lane Kiffin because.

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Speaker 2: Now, well, you look like you look like kind of

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Speaker 3: If you tell those guys they got to come back

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Speaker 3: after what's gone on and these kids getting this close

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Speaker 3: to potentially winning a national championship.

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Speaker 5: I'll be honest with you, I don't really care about

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Speaker 5: the scenario for LSU and Lane Kiffin, like he made

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Speaker 5: his decision, he chose to leave, Like my, my, you know,

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Speaker 5: concern is more for All Miss if they can kind

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Speaker 5: of keep this thing going and hopefully those assistant coaches

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Speaker 5: who are there. And I don't just say this, Charlie

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Speaker 5: Weisse Junior, who I've known since he was a young

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Speaker 5: young boy, I'm just so impressed with what he's grown

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Speaker 5: into as a coach, the way he took on one

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Speaker 5: of the top defensive minds in Kirby Smart and his staff,

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Speaker 5: and the job he did the entire game, it felt

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Speaker 5: like Ole Miss was moving the football. They had this

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Speaker 5: flowed to it and a rhythm to their offense, and

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Speaker 5: there were always one step ahead that you don't see

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Speaker 5: that very often versus Georgia defense or a Kirby Smart

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Speaker 5: coach team. And this was a scenario where I'm watching

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Speaker 5: it going, dude, this is this is like a masterclass

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Speaker 5: right now at times. And meanwhile Georgia and Mike Boba,

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Speaker 5: it's like they couldn't find anything, anything that they could

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Speaker 5: kind of hang their hat on with consistency, and I

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Speaker 5: don't know if you want to say, you know, Crediga

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Speaker 5: and Pete Golding the defense the job they did too

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Speaker 5: in that respect, but it felt like Gunnar Stockton was

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Speaker 5: a bit off. He never felt overly didn't seem like

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Speaker 5: he was overly comfortable. He had to scramble, run around,

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Speaker 5: make a bunch of plays. I mean, he took some

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Speaker 5: shots in this game. But this was not the Georgia

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Speaker 5: team I thought we were going to see. But also

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Speaker 5: this is this has been a little bit of a

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Speaker 5: The SEC has kind of pushed up the team that

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Speaker 5: chance because if you really looked at old Missus resume

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Speaker 5: getting into the playoff, they he played four teams with

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Speaker 5: a winning record this season.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't like they.

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Speaker 5: Went through murderers row and they yet were still in

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Speaker 5: as a sixth seed and obviously had a layup in

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Speaker 5: their first round game. But this was more of a

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Speaker 5: true proven moment and so congrats to the players and coaches.

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Speaker 5: I hope they stay on. I hope someone talks sense

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Speaker 5: in the lane Kiff, and he just says, look, man,

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Speaker 5: I'm not making these guys come back. We can we

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Speaker 5: can recruit, we can do what we need to do,

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Speaker 5: you know, and have those guys be afar through the

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Speaker 5: this time of year, Like we don't need them to

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Speaker 5: be back yet. They can go finish the job they're doing.

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Speaker 5: And if they win a national championship, so be it.

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Speaker 5: Like they'll bring that with them when they come to LSU,

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Speaker 5: that that experience and that on the resume.

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Speaker 3: Pete Golding, the ole Miss coach, spoke afterwards about the

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Speaker 3: wild month that it's been for the program.

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Speaker 7: Code you called this last month a roller coaster.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, how did your team and you overcome all of

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Speaker 6: this to become Sugar Bowl champions?

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Speaker 9: I mean, I think we got a great group of

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Speaker 9: the Keith Carter, and we got a lot of good

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Speaker 9: coaches in that building, you know, and a lot of

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Speaker 9: guys are going through a lot of things, but they've

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Speaker 9: been here for the kids the whole time.

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Speaker 2: Then that's a special group of kids.

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Speaker 3: That Cajun came out there. You know, he felt the

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Speaker 3: old stomping grounds, he felt the old the old Cajun

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Speaker 3: accident came out there.

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Speaker 2: But it was pretty cool to see his son.

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Speaker 3: Did you see how fired up his son was coming

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Speaker 3: like it was jacked, ready to light somebody up. I

659
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Speaker 3: think I think it's an awesome storyline. It's it's kind

660
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: of why. I think there was probably a lot of

661
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: people rooting for this to happen, just to see how

662
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Speaker 3: this goes. The way Lane Kiffin left I think didn't

663
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Speaker 3: sit right with a lot of people the way the

664
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Speaker 3: whole thing played out. And so I guess the report

665
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: is Charlie Weist Junior is going to stay on, but

666
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 3: they're not sure about the other assistants. Just let him stay, dude, Like,

667
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 3: let him finish this thing out. If it goes one game,

668
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: two more games, you're almost.

669
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Speaker 2: At the end. Uh.

670
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Speaker 3: It would be a really fun story to add on

671
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Speaker 3: to the crazy, crazy circumstances that led to them in

672
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: this spot to begin with, Like it feels like a.

673
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Speaker 5: I know the line was that you know six and

674
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 5: a half, I'm not sure, if anyone could ever you know,

675
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 5: had if they had you know, that number and anything,

676
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 5: I don't even want to talk about. But the way

677
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 5: that game finished, I mean, someone someone's on the on

678
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 5: the wrong side of that finish, that bad beat. Pete

679
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 5: Prisco is siding with someone on that one. That's unbelievable. Yeah,

680
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 5: can they what was going on there?

681
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 3: Like nobody could figure out whether or not, like the

682
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: game was actually over, It wasn't over. And then they

683
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: do a you know, a free on side kick and

684
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: Oleness doesn't touch it, so it's recovered and and and

685
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: it gives Georgia another chance. If Georgia would have won

686
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: that game, which you know, based on the play you

687
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Speaker 3: know they chosen that spot wasn't gonna happen. But if

688
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: they would have won that game, and that's the all

689
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: time classic gag job that we've seen, all time classic.

690
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Speaker 5: But well, just the fact them down ten and the

691
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Speaker 5: fourth with nine minutes left to come back, you know,

692
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Speaker 5: made it more at least entertainning. I mean, that was

693
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Speaker 5: the That was the game that I think we all

694
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Speaker 5: kind of needed after watching the games earlier.

695
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Speaker 4: In the day that were just not competitive by any means.

696
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Speaker 4: I mean, it was.

697
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Speaker 5: It was, it was tough to watch, and look, I

698
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 5: think it even draws more attention to the involvement of

699
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Speaker 5: the group of six teams.

700
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Speaker 4: And hey, look at James Madison.

701
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 5: Look what they did in Oregon's you know, home stadium,

702
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 5: you know, versus that defense. You know, that was a

703
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 5: even though it wasn't a tight game in the first half,

704
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 5: at least there was a bit more production, you know too,

705
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 5: and you saw more scoring in the second half. So

706
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 5: there's a lot of conversations to be had. I think

707
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 5: big picture that the toughest thing for me is and

708
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 5: just kind of goes back to, you know, just looking

709
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 5: at the resumes of some of the teams, is we now,

710
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Speaker 5: for the third straight year have two teams from the

711
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Speaker 5: Big Ten who are playing the semi finals. We're gonna

712
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Speaker 5: have a third straight year of the Big Ten guaranteed

713
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Speaker 5: to have a team in it playing for the national championship.

714
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Speaker 4: And I just think the.

715
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Speaker 5: Narratives surrounding the SEC, which got five teams in, it's

716
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Speaker 5: got to change at some point where people stop realizing

717
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 5: that outside of a couple of teams, and then, by

718
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 5: the way, this goes for the Big Ten two but

719
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 5: outside of a handful of teams, like everyone else is

720
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 5: pretty much the same, like it just they are and

721
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Speaker 5: us acting like going through the eight game conference schedule

722
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 5: the SEC goes through is such a gauntlet. It's not

723
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Speaker 5: any more of a gauntlet than the nine games that

724
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Speaker 5: the Big Ten goes through. And we're seeing that in

725
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 5: real time. It's a more physical brand of football. They're

726
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Speaker 5: better defenses in the Big Ten. You know, one of

727
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 5: the things that's kind of flown under the radar is

728
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 5: obviously the running clock as you compare you know, the

729
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 5: point totals and production. Like a lot of people made

730
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Speaker 5: this comment about the Heisman Trophy ceremony and well, like,

731
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 5: look at these guys. None of these guys are putting

732
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Speaker 5: up the stats that we used to have. Well, the

733
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 5: clock is run different now too. You know, you've got

734
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Speaker 5: a running clock in more scenarios that's closer to the

735
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Speaker 5: NFL style. So the games are tighter and in tighter games,

736
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Speaker 5: less possessions, With less possessions, less opportunities to score. And

737
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 5: obviously teams aren't playing with the quarterback communication as fast

738
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Speaker 5: as they once were, where they're just signaling it in

739
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 5: and playing at warp speed. They'll still do tempo every

740
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 5: once in a while, but it's not as fast, so

741
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 5: you get lower scoring, tighter games, which kind of has

742
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 5: been Big Ten football. But now with the parody of

743
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 5: the transfer portal and then I own everything else, you're

744
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 5: just you're seeing a transition from what was the SEC,

745
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 5: as you pointed out, to more of the Big Ten.

746
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 5: You know, that's that's what's where we're at now, Like

747
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 5: that conference is kind of leading the way, and especially

748
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 5: if they win a third straight national championship, there should

749
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Speaker 5: be more of a conversation.

750
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Speaker 4: About some of those at large bids.

751
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Speaker 5: And I would even say this, like, hopefully after this

752
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 5: year there's more of a conference about expansion and going

753
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 5: to sixteen teams, so we don't have to have a

754
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 5: conversation about, hey, these teams off buys can't score.

755
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously Indiana's the only one that's been able

756
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 4: to prove that wrong.

757
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 5: But you know, that's another narrative that's out there that

758
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 5: will be a large piece of discussion in the offseason. Now.

759
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: As somebody who worked in SEC country, and I loved it.

760
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: It made me appreciate and love college football even more.

761
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 3: I do kind of like the idea of SEC Ball

762
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 3: washers kicking and screaming while being pulled to reality that hey,

763
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: it's changed, man, It's no longer the dominant conference that

764
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: once was no longer.

765
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Speaker 2: You no longer have this.

766
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: Significant lead over anybody else, if any lead at all.

767
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: Like things have changed.

768
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Speaker 3: And I just like the idea of the defiance and

769
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: the unwillingness to just recognize that it's no longer your

770
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: sport and everybody else is just a part of it.

771
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: Things have changed in college football.

772
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Speaker 5: I kind of like that. I kind of like it.

773
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 5: It's fine, it's only it's only going to get better.

774
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 5: I mean, think about Matt Canwbill taking over at Penn State.

775
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 5: Think about Pat Fitzeral taking over in Michigan State. You know,

776
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 5: you add ship Kelly to to David Bron's team in Northwestern,

777
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 5: like everyone wants to be old Northwestern Bro.

778
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 4: Go back and look how competitive they are in some

779
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Speaker 4: of those games.

780
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 5: Like that's a team that I mean, they may need

781
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 5: a few playmakers, but they're not as far off either.

782
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 5: And again, people can laugh at that all they want.

783
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 5: They probably don't watch the film. They probably haven't watched

784
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 5: some of these teams and how they play. I mean,

785
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 5: they gave Michigan all they could handle this year. And

786
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 5: you just watch Michigan in Texas, right, the nine to

787
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 5: three team that that should have gotten in, right, that

788
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 5: just barely beat You know, Michigan Arch played great, but

789
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 5: you know, watching that game or going well Michigan had

790
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 5: had struggled versus Northwestern, I wonder what Northwestern Texas would

791
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 5: look like. I mean, again, there's more parody in college

792
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 5: football than we'd like to admit.

793
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: And that's the bottom line. That's good I think we've seen,

794
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 4: which is great. It's great for the sport.

795
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 5: But the hard part is when you get to these

796
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 5: the tournament format, it then leads to these narratives around

797
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 5: well Texas Tech didn't deserve to be there.

798
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 4: It's like, yes, they did, all right, they were dominant

799
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 4: this year. They rolled out the ball.

800
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 5: And had one of the worst games of the season,

801
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 5: and that happens. You know, Alabama clearly didn't play up

802
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 5: to their standards, but that was also a team that

803
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 5: was probably on a down held trajectory. We watched in

804
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 5: the SEC championship game, we watched them struggle to beat Auburn.

805
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 4: I mean, the signs were there.

806
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 5: Unfortunately the committee and then again, this is our conversation

807
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 5: for another segment, but the committee just didn't want to

808
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 5: see it, and again in part because we're a bit

809
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 5: blinded by the past and the history and no different

810
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 5: than me being wrong about Hey, take the points in

811
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 5: Bama like they can keep this close. I mean every

812
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 5: like looking at that line going man Bama like they're

813
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 5: a touchdown or more underdog, Like there's no way. But

814
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 5: that's part of even my own you know, bias and

815
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 5: looking at history and tradition and seeing these teams up

816
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 5: close on the field and all that and not, you know,

817
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 5: instead looking at what I've watched on table.

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00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: You're with Indiana. It's the best team wire to wire

819
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: on table here.

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Speaker 2: I mean, don't be so hard on yourself.

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Speaker 3: We've got one hundred and twenty five years of bad

822
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: football as evidence. Yeah, I think there was enough there

823
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: to go. You know, that's that's way too big of

824
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: a line. Yeah, it's just it's just, yeah, there's more parody,

825
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 3: and I think it's I think it's great for the sport.

826
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Speaker 2: They got everything covers. You know, we got it. We

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Speaker 2: got it too.

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Speaker 4: I do wonder how this sits with old Jerry Jones.

876
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Speaker 3: About it like that out of take because Troike whuls

877
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: been very openly critical of Jerry Jones, especially in the

878
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Speaker 3: last couple of years.

879
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Speaker 5: Well, the other part of this conversation is, you know,

880
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 5: you've got a former Dallas Cowboy great, a Pro Football

881
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Speaker 5: Hall of Famer.

882
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Speaker 4: Well not you know when Dane Know. I was just

883
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Speaker 4: with Dan yesterday.

884
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Speaker 5: You know, I'm sure he would be glad to help

885
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Speaker 5: out the organization that regard now, I would say maybe

886
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Speaker 5: because of what Troy is doing now being in the

887
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Speaker 5: broadcast booth. And people can take issue with this whether

888
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,479
Speaker 5: or not they want. But when you are on TV,

889
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 5: when you're in the broadcast booth, you tend to run

890
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Speaker 5: into a lot more people who are probably suited for

891
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 5: that job, and you talk to a lot of different organizations.

892
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 5: You talk to the ownership groups, the front office people,

893
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 5: you know, agetting, the coaching staffs, players, You've got a

894
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 5: feel for all of it. So, you know, bringing him

895
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Speaker 5: on in a sense and getting his perspective on all

896
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Speaker 5: of it, it's probably wise. It's just interesting to me

897
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Speaker 5: that you know again, and I don't know what that

898
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Speaker 5: group looks like that's helping them make this decision. But

899
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Speaker 5: you know, there's a lot of great Miami Dolphins players,

900
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 5: you know, players or former players that are down there

901
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Speaker 5: that could probably help out.

902
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Speaker 4: I mean that more.

903
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Speaker 5: He's a guy who serves on the Orange Bowl committee

904
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Speaker 5: with me. He's another one. Now I'm sure would love

905
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Speaker 5: to be involved in that process.

906
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Speaker 3: I mean, Jay Fiedler, Cleo Lemon, like, all right now,

907
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Speaker 3: now you're just sorry rosen Fels.

908
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Speaker 2: Wasn't Sage rosen Fels? I mean, come on, Sage was

909
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Speaker 2: down there.

910
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Speaker 5: Sage was down there did the old time greatest, uh,

911
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 5: you know, finding a way to get released to get

912
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Speaker 5: another team. That's story. But do you have time to

913
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Speaker 5: tell me?

914
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Speaker 4: You don't have more?

915
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 2: We get the bring well enough time?

916
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 4: Else we got man?

917
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: All right?

918
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Speaker 7: So what else we got? Well, Lamar Jackson is back.

919
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Speaker 10: He's actually gone on to say, yeah, one hundred, I'm

920
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Speaker 10: gonna be out there. And he even told people I

921
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 10: never quit on my team. He didn't know where that

922
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Speaker 10: noise came from. And when asked if he fell asleep

923
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Speaker 10: in meetings, do you think Harbaugh would let me do that?

924
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Speaker 2: That's what happened.

925
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Speaker 4: I mean, Jonas here the most critical.

926
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Speaker 2: What's your comment, what's he gonna say?

927
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I dozed off for a few minutes, Yeah yeah,

928
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Speaker 3: so what of course he's gonna push back on it.

929
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Speaker 3: I just don't believe a story without much detail just

930
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: came up out of thin air, all right, So I

931
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Speaker 3: do think there's some validity there. What do you think

932
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Speaker 3: about that? Our two next