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Speaker 1: say Tescott and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's It is a Saying with

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Speaker 1: everybody to the SWBC studios at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: We've got Chris Beam running this ship today and we've

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Speaker 1: got Rob Phillips, heck My Harrison the ship. Oh there's

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Speaker 1: a p at the end there. Wow, ye, there's a

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Speaker 1: talk a we gonna do it. HECKMA was so shocked

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Speaker 1: you forgot his micros? No, man, he goes. He looks

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Speaker 1: right up at me and he goes, wait a second, ship.

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Speaker 1: I mean we are on the internet, but I still

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Speaker 1: we're a family oriented show. Really saying it with our chest. Isaiah,

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Speaker 1: stand back here with us guys, Hey, buddy, how are

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Speaker 1: you good to see you? Guys? Swell today? Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: go ahead. He's always sweating. Look at the arms, Look

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Speaker 1: at the short sleep he had to wear the short

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Speaker 1: sleeve today. The show off the guns put us ally

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Speaker 1: it new beeper? Who this? Do you still? When? When

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Speaker 1: was the last time you owned a beeper? Never? Have

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Speaker 1: never have it? I was always jealous of everybody. I

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Speaker 1: was envious of those who had a beeper because I didn't.

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Speaker 1: My family didn't have money to have one. You know

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Speaker 1: what I did have though. You were a little past

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Speaker 1: that though, right, No, no, how old are you three?

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Speaker 1: Three thirty seventy thirties? Okay, well maybe not? Thanks? What

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Speaker 1: was the year? What was the year of the beeper?

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Speaker 1: What was that? Realm? Well, I'm forty super early nineties? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like mid nineties. I had one, like ninety five. But

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Speaker 1: you had to go to a pay phone most times. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you can call somebody back. Yeah really? Yeah? Say about

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Speaker 1: this is zero about what a beeper is? Have you

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Speaker 1: don't even know what it is? Have you ever used

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Speaker 1: a payphone? Uh? No, I went to my I went

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Speaker 1: with my dad one time when I was a kid

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Speaker 1: to use a payphone. That was it. Yeah, I've never

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Speaker 1: used one so myself. Anyways, the pay phone in my

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Speaker 1: in my neighborhood, the cord was cut. It was just

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Speaker 1: literally just a phone. Yeah, the payphone in my neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: You didn't even put your face before COVID right there,

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Speaker 1: you did. If you don't know what COVID looked like,

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Speaker 1: that was it. That was the social distance. You knew

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Speaker 1: not to put your face on that pane. Sometimes. Man,

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Speaker 1: the generational divide between Kyle, it just it just appears

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Speaker 1: at the wrong time. It does. It really does. It's

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Speaker 1: really incredible. It really is like, never seen him beepers

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Speaker 1: like it's just like, dude, Yeah, well you said mid

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Speaker 1: nineties and I was born in the late nineties. Do

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Speaker 1: you know what the skytail pager is? Oh, dude, I've

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Speaker 1: never heard those two words in my life. That was

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Speaker 1: like Monte montell Jordan, man, this is how we do.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know the song. He got He got out

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Speaker 1: the car and he had heard the skytail. The skytail

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Speaker 1: was a really nice that's that's where you balled it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's when he was balling. He had the skytail. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then they came out like We're like the bootleg

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Speaker 1: came out with the what was it, the sidekick sidekicks

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Speaker 1: at the side kick sidekick was fired. You just open

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Speaker 1: So you hold it like this and you would flick

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Speaker 1: You felt like base when text message just first started. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Skytail was like a keyboard underneath yeah. Us. Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: was an introduction to texting, like texting used to charge

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Speaker 1: you pertext, pertext. I was a part of that, Like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, remember it. Side my dad told me about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember playing like Snake on my dad's no Kia

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Speaker 1: and he like he had the Snake game. Did he

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Speaker 1: have a bikeberry too? No, he never had the BlackBerry.

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Speaker 1: He never got chirped. Huh No. I go back. I

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Speaker 1: You don't even know about the colored macintages, the colored ones.

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Speaker 1: But my grandpa had like an orange one. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that I mean that you never used a floppy disk.

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Speaker 1: you kid me? You played the organ trow I did.

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Speaker 1: Her confidence was like, you want to get more countries,

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Speaker 1: stop real Ye well, if yes, if you've decided this,

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Speaker 1: the show. First off, thank you, we are your friends.

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Speaker 1: Rob Any News in notes yesterday, Um for the cowboys

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Speaker 1: you mean cowboys talk? Yeah? No, uh. Tony Pollard got

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Speaker 1: in terms of their workload. So that's encouraging. For what

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I anticipated Pollard to get into

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence had a he was limited with a foot

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Speaker 1: doesn't sound like I don't think it's anything to to

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Speaker 1: does everything change now that they've gone back into protocols? Uh?

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Speaker 1: From from a team building standpoint? Uh, did that changed?

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Speaker 1: hasn't changed. But they have expanded their meeting space. The

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Speaker 1: extending their protocols. It's it's unfortunate man. Through week fifteen. Right,

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Speaker 1: It's not a permanent change. It's a temporary change because

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Speaker 1: it's either NBA or NFL. It's something new every hour.

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Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke with the Washington football team just just went

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Speaker 1: Doble was in it. That's a schefter tweet. So that's yeah.

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Speaker 1: this year. This has got to be crazy. You just hope,

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Speaker 1: You don't get into playoffs and you get to like

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Speaker 1: super Bowl Week and this is going on. How are

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Speaker 1: I mean they're changing the protocols though they are. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well they changed it to allow guys to get back quicker,

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Speaker 1: which makes really little to no sense. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get what I'm saying. They're changing this today guys

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Speaker 1: And it makes it it's just kind of a delicate

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Speaker 1: had to say yesterday. Rob Phillips had a phenomenal article

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Speaker 1: Dak will not call it a slump, We'll not call

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Speaker 1: Number one, he said, I'm I am fully one hundred

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Speaker 1: He has not been on the injury report since the

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Speaker 1: know they're not gonna sit Zeke as much as I

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Speaker 1: hate that, and they're probably gonna try to get Pollard

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Speaker 1: to play. I don't like either one of those things, right.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to question the medical staff. I trust

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Speaker 1: them like crazy, but I am in favor of guys

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Speaker 1: getting healthy. All right, That conversation is done either, even

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Speaker 1: if both of those guys are suited up. Zeke's not

433
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent, Polis one hundred percent? So are you

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Speaker 1: really being as effective? You know who is one hundred percent? Ceedee?

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Speaker 1: Lambs one hundred percent, Gallops one hundred percent, Coops one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent. All those guys have some wheels. All those

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Speaker 1: guys have wheels. Cedric Wilson's back, Yes, yes, okay, Cedric

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Speaker 1: Wilson's one hundred percent. All those guys can run. And

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Speaker 1: we have given those guys the ball out of motion

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Speaker 1: in the past. Let's utilize that get these guys on

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Speaker 1: the edge. We saw exactly how effective Kansas City is

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Speaker 1: doing the same type of deal these guys are. They're

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Speaker 1: rolling now, they're back to O KC. These guys find

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Speaker 1: ways to get their guys the ball at the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage or behind the line of scrimmage all the time.

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Speaker 1: And it's not always Clyde Edwards Junior or anybody else

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Speaker 1: that's back. There's a lot of their receivers that are

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Speaker 1: running this running game. And I feel like Connor Williams

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Speaker 1: compared to Connor mcgovernor. I mean pulling the guard and

451
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Speaker 1: putting him out in front as almost a lead blocker.

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Speaker 1: I feel like actually helps you run that plate quite often.

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Speaker 1: I think versus New York the first game that we

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455
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Speaker 1: and Zack Martin pulling out and Terren Steele blocking down.

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Speaker 1: I think they found a way to use Terren Steele

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Speaker 1: effectively in the running game as well. You know, look,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Isaiah when you say the jet

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Speaker 1: sweeps and things like that will help us get this

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Speaker 1: running game established. But I also think that another caveat

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Speaker 1: to that is going to be still going with screens

462
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Speaker 1: two receivers on that side. I think spreading this defense

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Speaker 1: out and making the run from side to side and

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Speaker 1: then breaking that two men that over the top, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be effective. I think a lot of people said

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Speaker 1: the Deebo Samuel's package for ceedee Lamb, if you spotlight

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Speaker 1: or just moonlight him in that position, Okay, that's cool,

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Speaker 1: But when you talk about Kansas City and the way

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Speaker 1: that they use their wide receiver, he's exceptionally fast. He's

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Speaker 1: just a different layout altogether. Like this is like he's

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Speaker 1: so different from anything I've ever seen. So even thinking

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Speaker 1: he have the same kind of speed? I just think,

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Speaker 1: whatever we do, we have to get this offense back

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Speaker 1: I think, little wrinkles that we're trying and you know,

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Speaker 1: to get the game, get our running game established, this

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Speaker 1: screen pass run out to Zeke thirty three yards. Get

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Speaker 1: Polar not being available, just to get that speed in space.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm with you. That's actually our mail bag

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Speaker 1: Who has Ceedee Lamb because he's a little pricey, but

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Speaker 1: last time he faced the Giants, and so four receptions

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Speaker 1: ninety four yards, I believe it was that eighty four.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, I can't see that. It's so so small,

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Speaker 1: but it's a touchdown either way. Either way, I'm going

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Speaker 1: I like it. Ceedee Lamb. I chose Michael Gallup, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's because that this offense is going to

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Speaker 1: open it up over the top. Oh a couple different times.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna do what we talked about in the last segment.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna utilize the play action. They're gonna use that

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Speaker 1: play action that underneath route and then boom, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: hit Michael Gallop at the top of the not available

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Speaker 1: think he's great. How about Dalton Schultz? Is it time

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Speaker 1: for Schultze to have a rebound in fantasy, I think

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Speaker 1: I absolutely I picked him. I absolutely think he is

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Speaker 1: because okay, Washington only three targets one catch for four yards,

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Speaker 1: eight for fifty three. He's made some plays underneath. And

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Speaker 1: be patient, take the underneath stuff. And like you were saying,

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Speaker 1: they're still going to be opportunities for Schultze to get

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Speaker 1: going here. And while all these guys are making their

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Speaker 1: is I'm still reeling from that common as well. Heck,

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Speaker 1: get him rolling out I think in those two areas. Yeah,

638
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: our inability to attack the middle of the field I

639
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: think has been really surprising over this stretch of six games.

640
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: And whether it's teams are not blitzing us that are

641
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: dropping back in coverage or not allowing us to go

642
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: over the top, whatever it is, we have just missed

643
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: this opportunity to get to the middle of the field.

644
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Speaker 1: You said something about, you know, Zeke and his passing,

645
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: his ability to catch passes out of the backfield. Attacking

646
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: the middle of the field is going to be important.

647
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: But Schultz, his blocking just hadn't been there. They sprinkled

648
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: in sprinkle, He hadn't been goals, Yeah he had. He

649
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: hadn't been much better obviously, But you know, from the

650
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: tight end, we just need a lot more and that's

651
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: been a group that's been hurting, and it's because of

652
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: the injuries and man, you know, we talk a lot

653
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: about Schultz and kind of talked down to Darwin Man,

654
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: but he is maybe left a huge void in the

655
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: tight end room with his injury. Yeah, Schultz has to

656
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: block better, just like my guy. Heckman just said, if

657
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: you're a tight end in the NFL that decides to

658
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: be a type of tight end that puts his hand

659
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: in the ground, a three point tight end that is

660
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: three fingers, and you can't block, then you can't be effective.

661
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: Reason why majority of his players are gonna come off

662
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: of play action. Not many tight ends that line up

663
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: with their hand in the ground just run routes straight

664
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Speaker 1: from that position. Most of the time. You either attached

665
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: tight end or you're a flex tight end. If you're

666
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: a flex tight end, then you're more of the kelcs

667
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: and those guys that are just gonna they can route

668
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: you up. Schultz is not a route you up type

669
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Speaker 1: tight end. So if you're not a route you up

670
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: type tight end, meaning that I can route up your

671
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: third best dB, or I can route up you're starting safety,

672
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: then you have to be an attached tight end. And

673
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: if you're attached tight end, then you need to be

674
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: an extension of the offensive line. If you're blocking at

675
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: the level that he's blocking right now, you're not going

676
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: to be effective in the run blocking scheme. You're not

677
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: gonna be effective in a pass blocking scheme, and you're

678
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: not going to get the play action, because what there's

679
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: nothing to actually play action off of because they don't

680
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: respect our run. So how does he turn that around

681
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: in four weeks though? Is that something that's possible to

682
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: turn His effort in the first half of the season

683
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: was substantially different than his effort now. I'm not going

684
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: to say that he was an effective blocker, but I'm

685
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,479
Speaker 1: gonna say it was very apparent of him. He was trying,

686
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: he was trying his best. And because he was trying

687
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: his best as a defender, if you're a defensive end

688
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: and I'm coming at you on every single time, now

689
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: you might get me and be like, man, this dud's

690
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: a little pest. But now when I come at you

691
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: and I'm actually doing a play action, I fold you,

692
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: I afford you because you're there. You had the expectation

693
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: that I actually had a chance of blocking you. Now

694
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: where's the energy. It's so crazy, man, Because the traditional

695
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: tight ends have changed in the league. Is like it

696
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: do they even have traditional I mean, guys would come

697
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: out of college and you know, nineties eight, whatever it was,

698
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: and they would have to be able to block. I mean,

699
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: you're just like extended tackle. Basically, a guy that has hands.

700
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: Now the tight ends are pretty much extensions of the

701
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: passing game and exactly, and I mean, I think the

702
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: evolution of the position, I think, and the way that

703
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators are trying to get guys involved has changed

704
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: so much that when you try to go back to

705
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: that twelve person and get guys back to being blockers,

706
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: you see them struggle. And we've seen shows struggle mightily.

707
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think his value to

708
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: us has never been his block in a film. No, no,

709
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: not at all. But it's the threat of it, right,

710
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 1: I mean, And the thing is that sucks in this league.

711
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: And as we're talking about tight ends and the evolution

712
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: of it, you know, guy, you have guys like my guy,

713
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: Mercedes Lewis. Mercedes Lewis with my old teammates and I

714
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: played against him in college. He is the one. He's

715
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: probably arguably the league's best blocking tight end. He's been

716
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: that way for him. Hands and he has hands, but

717
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: because he's so good at blocking, they they just kind

718
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: of just just do away with the fact that he

719
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: can catch until he met Aaron Rodgers. And now Aaron

720
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: Rodgers is finding him on a consistent basis. Prior to that.

721
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: If you're a good blocking tight end, guess what, you're

722
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: just in it. You're a sixth lineman now, and and

723
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: so you're you're not seeing as many guys that can

724
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,959
Speaker 1: kind of swing and do both. As we talk about

725
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: the swing tackle. You're not seeing many tight ends that

726
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: could put their hand in the ground and block and

727
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: be dependable there and be able to go out and

728
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: get them and run on routes. I love this conversation

729
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: because I think this is going to be a lot

730
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: of the conversation that happens this offseason of is he

731
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: worth the money because he's gonna get paid, whether it's

732
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: here or whether it's somewhere else, He's going to get

733
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Speaker 1: paid at some point down the road. Question for you,

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Speaker 1: if you would have cut the season at the halfway point, yes,

735
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Speaker 1: would your offer be the same then as it would

736
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Speaker 1: be now? Oof? No, No, I think he's in that case.

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Speaker 1: I think he's lost money in that What percentage would

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Speaker 1: you say would you say he lost that's tough to say.

739
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Speaker 1: I would say twenty percent. I was gonna say about

740
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: twenty five percent, thirty Yeah, something like that. So if

741
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: what you would have offered him, yes, I mean he

742
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: definitely has not played as well lately. The stats are

743
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: still there. He's still providing an opportunity in the passing game,

744
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: but with the tight end position that he plays, you

745
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: need him to do so much more than that. All right,

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Speaker 1: didn't have the solo shot Chris. It was he's getting

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Speaker 1: him in a Boston Chris, give him an a system

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Speaker 1: that's true. Anybody, if anybody in this building, I've been

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Speaker 1: Chris Man. He's producing on them. Say what man, Chris

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Speaker 1: Chris is. He's something else. Man, Chris said something about me.

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Speaker 1: I'm still being a little upset with Chris about something. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna bring this to the no, I won't

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Speaker 1: bring Chris. Say what your chance? Chris? Okay? What so you?

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Speaker 1: I said that? Him? What you say? Wait a minute? Him?

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Speaker 1: do I look like? Wait? Man, don't Chris. I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you you don't want to go Seas, do it? I am?

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Speaker 1: I am. Don't let him intimidate. Don't let him in

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Speaker 1: Timid in your house? Right now? So? Does he not

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Speaker 1: look like Uncle Phil? It was like Dog, I would

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Speaker 1: tell you, I'm would tell you, Am I Well, hold

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Speaker 1: on a second, Isaiah Am, I right? Am? I right?

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Am, I right right. I got something for you.

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Speaker 1: I got something I've been I've been telling you. I

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Speaker 1: got something for you. Dog. That's more appointment. I would

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Speaker 1: like Kyle. I look like I'll go Phil. I mean

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Speaker 1: they both went to North Texas. I mean I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what. Okay, you know what fulfill with it? North Texas? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: north Texas alone my friends, no way? Yeah, how about that?

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Speaker 1: Freaking Oh my god, you can bring it to there.

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Speaker 1: I told him one day. That's he's still So I'm

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Speaker 1: on you Twitter, Twitter, is rid you like? I hope

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Speaker 1: it is about to That's so funny. I cannot wait

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Speaker 1: pretty side by side. Yes, I'm on you. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's you know what. Heck, it'll make you feel better

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Speaker 1: that you're now in second place. Right. Hecko went five

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Speaker 1: and one last week. Rob went four and two. He

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Speaker 1: is in third place. Uh, Lorena didn't have a great week.

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Speaker 1: Oh Lorena went two and four. Okay, so the picture

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Speaker 1: gave it didn't work on Well I went five and one,

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Speaker 1: so peah, But you guys had to have different picks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it has exactly. It worked out. So Isaiah went four

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00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: and two, had a good week as well. So you

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00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: were back above five hundred overall. So we've got still

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Speaker 1: killing it in baseball. Heck, I'm up top. Heckma's three

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00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: games back, Rob is five games back, the fans are

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00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: seven games back, and Isaiah has ten games back. Is

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Speaker 1: this running through the playoffs? Sure? Sure? Oh god yeah,

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Speaker 1: a very good. Let's do it. Time time to pick

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Speaker 1: it up a five games back. Who is our guest

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Speaker 1: picker this week? We got Mike and Newton is picks

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Speaker 1: Mike and Iowa. What's up, Mike? How's it going? My friend?

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Speaker 1: All pretty good? U? My picks? My picks for this?

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Speaker 1: Hold on? Wait wait wait wait, wait wait wait wait?

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Speaker 1: Who read the disclaimer? I love it. We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: through them one by one. We gotta be semi quick

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00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: here or else. Chris is gonna right now, all right,

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Speaker 1: the Raiders I got here, we go, Mike. Raiders at

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Speaker 1: the Browns. The Browns are a little undersung and and

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Speaker 1: they've got some COVID issues. The Raiders have had issues

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Speaker 1: all year long. Who you got in that one? I

856
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Speaker 1: got the Raiders. Got the Raiders on that one on

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Speaker 1: the road. I'm gonna take the Raiders on the road

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Speaker 1: here as well. Raiders. Too much Browns missing. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on there, Isaiah. I think the

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Speaker 1: Browns defense would figure it out. Oh he's sacking. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go in Vegas. Going with Vegas. This is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a really fun one. How about the New England

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Speaker 1: Patriots on the road after their eight straight wins against Indie,

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Speaker 1: including the playoffs and taking on the Colts. They've also

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Speaker 1: won seven straight period. So this it says Colts at Pats.

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Speaker 1: It's oh, I've flipped it. Yeah, it's it's Patriots at Colts. Okay, yeah, yea,

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Speaker 1: I flipped it on the text message. My bad. He

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Speaker 1: who you got on that one? Both really good defenses.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Patriots, man, Okay, give me the

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Speaker 1: hoodie taking the Patriots, Isaiah, Patriots with you, guys, But

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Speaker 1: I can't go against my coach. I think it's about

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Speaker 1: time the Patriots lose. Get me Jonathan Taylor and the

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Speaker 1: Colts at home to get it done, all right, Mike,

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Speaker 1: who you got? I got? I got the Patriots nine

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Speaker 1: and four. That's a good pick this one. If you

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Speaker 1: always say the toilet flushing game, this is the ultimate

877
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Speaker 1: toilet flushing game if the Lions were not available. In

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Speaker 1: the NFL, Texans at the Jaguars. After Urban Meyer has

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00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: been fired, he has gone. Both teams are at two

880
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Speaker 1: and eleven. These two teams are downright terrible. But Houston's

881
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Speaker 1: won seven straight against Jacksonville. Rob will start with you,

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Speaker 1: Oh you know Jacksonville Jacksonville coming off the uh whatever

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Speaker 1: happened this week, they're gonna rally. Okay, do go on

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Speaker 1: with jack This already started. My little sister sent me

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Speaker 1: a pitch of on the field. Chris. I'm telling you, dog,

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Speaker 1: you don't even don't you worry about it? I got

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Speaker 1: you for life, dog. Um. Yeah, I'll go with the Jacks. Man.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Texans on the road. Mike, who you got? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That's Cloa Bengals at the Broncos both teams at seven

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Speaker 1: and six. Denver has won three of their last four

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Speaker 1: against Cincinnati. Isaiah will start with you. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: with the places that you where you can't breathe. So

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. Uh, Mike, who you got? Broncos? I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take Denver as well. Sorry m mmmm, that's a tough one, man.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go Broncos here as well. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Broncos tired of picking since I know I picked him

897
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Speaker 1: again last week and they burned me, so I'm out

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Speaker 1: on them for a little bit. Uh. The Falcons at

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. San Francisco has lost eight of

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Speaker 1: their last nine or eight of their last eleven. Home

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Speaker 1: games at Levi Stadium. You picked the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: last week, so we'll let Isaiah go first. It's correct pick.

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Speaker 1: It was a right pick. I'm going to forty nine ers, Coast,

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Speaker 1: West Coast, best coast. Who you got san Fran baby, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: give me San franc Mike, who you got? All right? Nine?

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Speaker 1: The Niners chief and two Niners need this one stay

907
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Speaker 1: in Super Bowl run. So I'm going with I try

908
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: to create separation, try too. It didn't work, did it? All? Right? Cowboys?

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Speaker 1: At who Giants? I picked the forty nine ers. Not

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Speaker 1: a lot of zacts picks at the same time on

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Speaker 1: this one? Do you want to just all do it

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Speaker 1: on one? Two boys? You you looked at it? You win? Mike?

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Speaker 1: Who you got on this one? I got at the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys for sure? Give us a score? Uh, thirty five seventeen,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good one. I was gonna say, thirty one

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Speaker 1: seventeen Cowboys thirty to sixteen, thirty to sixteen forty three

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Speaker 1: fourteen who blowout urger? Oh his confidence is gonna be

918
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Speaker 1: all the way back. But a forty Murger that's gonna

919
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Speaker 1: throw for three seventy two and four O three seventy two.

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Speaker 1: If it is, If it somehow ends up being three

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Speaker 1: seventy two and four touchdowns, I'm gonna lose my mind here.

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Speaker 1: Mike from Iowa, thank you so much for your time today.

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Speaker 1: We will talk to you soon. And thanks for being

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Speaker 1: such an avid supporter of the show. My friend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you really much. The first time I liked it.

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Speaker 1: So you guys, be safe and be careful to watch

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Speaker 1: you back. Thank you. Uh all right, Uncle Phil, who

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Speaker 1: you got for your score predictions? Wow? Wow, I promise

929
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Speaker 1: you this is gonna end badly for all parties involved.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say a word. Heck, I'm telling you this

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Speaker 1: is this is, this is where we get to draw

932
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Speaker 1: me in this. That's Lord help me. What do you

933
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Speaker 1: got on your score? H another forty. That's the same

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Speaker 1: score as the first game. I love it, running back,

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Speaker 1: running all the way back. All right, guys, that's it

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Speaker 1: for us here on Talking Cowboys. Hope you had some

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Speaker 1: fun with us today. Of course, we'll be back to

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Speaker 1: break it all down for you on Monday, nine am

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Speaker 1: Central time. Right back here from the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: heck my Harrison I'm Kyle Yeoman's heck, well, what do

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