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Speaker 1: On today's episode, we're talking news, Golden Globes, comics, Batman,

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Speaker 1: hushed to and more. Hello, my name is Jason Sepcion and.

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Speaker 2: I'm roseay Night, and welcome back to x ray Vision,

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Speaker 2: the podcast where we dive deepits your favor, Joe's movies,

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Speaker 2: comments of pop, pultrgy R three Episode three, or Jesday Thursday.

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Speaker 2: In today's previously on episode, we are catching up on

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Speaker 2: the biggest nutty news of the week, including a big

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Speaker 2: name sort of returns to the DCU.

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Speaker 3: Maybe how does this w I don't know. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: talk about it, and we're gonna be talking about the

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Speaker 3: new Marvel Rivals season one night.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's start with the Golden Globe, which we're taping

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Speaker 1: this on Monday morning, aired last night Sunday Night. Lots

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Speaker 1: of big winners, and of course, any conversation about the

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Speaker 1: Golden Globes, it must begin with the fact that this

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Speaker 1: is a beleaguered awards ceremony and group the you know,

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Speaker 1: the Foreign Press Association, and that they are just now

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Speaker 1: trying to climb out of the re Imagine what the

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Speaker 1: of the last several years. So let's talk about the Globes.

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Speaker 1: Golden Globes twenty twenty five, here is your headlines. Big

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Speaker 1: winners are the Brutalist with huge wins in major categories,

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Speaker 1: including a drama motion picture. Surprising wins for Amelia Perez

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Speaker 1: about the aesthetics of Hollywood and stardom. Winning for DeBie Moor,

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Speaker 1: who had a speech that feels like a speech that

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Speaker 1: could launcher to an Oscar win. But that's really the

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Speaker 1: thing I want to talk about. You know, Showgun one big.

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Speaker 1: But the Golden Globes before their various self inflicted disasters

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Speaker 1: glean what would be on menu for Oscar Night twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. Do we still think that's the case now

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Speaker 1: as the Globes are trying to claw their way back

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Speaker 3: You know what, I would say that the beleaged nature

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Speaker 3: last year which I think was their first kind of comeback.

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Speaker 3: Yere they had a pre olid hand or On Oppenheimer

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Speaker 3: going on to win, Cilia Murphy going on to win,

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Speaker 3: Emily Blunt going on to win. They for some reason,

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Speaker 3: It does seem to still have a little bit of

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Speaker 3: this specific year is still going to have that relativity

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Speaker 3: to the Oscars, because this feels it's a weird year.

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Speaker 3: But the way that Wicked just won like one prize

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Speaker 3: for kind of best Box Office, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: this is necessarily a tone setter, but I do think,

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Speaker 3: like you said, like Demi Moore now is probably higher

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Speaker 3: the Oscars than she was before. But I don't necessarily

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Speaker 3: know that Amelia Perez is now gonna not you know,

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Speaker 1: Right Anora a big winner now kind of goes up

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Speaker 3: Months, see what season continues.

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Speaker 1: Watching that Demi Moore speech, it felt like, yeah, it really,

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Speaker 1: This exactly is the narrative, and it feels like it

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Speaker 1: News Big DC EU casting news as Jason Mohamoa, Everybody's

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Speaker 1: Some mc rumors. There are rumors that Marvel is looking

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Speaker 3: I don't know what an A list actor means. The

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Speaker 3: That's a very family focused show to introduce this character.

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Speaker 1: Obviously there's a lot riding on Captain America Brave New World,

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Speaker 1: in news, IGN has released its most Anticipated Comics of

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Speaker 3: That sounds fun. I'm into it. Also, the Avengers power

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Speaker 1: Skeleton Crew one oh seven and that's for this episode.

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