1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Why from our nation's capital, this budget thing is going 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: to do nothing space Sports. I still think it's interesting 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: President Trump not playing his cards yet headlines Policy and Politics, 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: colliding to sound on with Kevin Zer, Relate the insiders, 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: the influencers, the inside. I would rather see a congressional solution. 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: It's part of my DNA. The Senate map in looks 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: a lot different than it looked in. You really have 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: a divide within Team Trump. The President has to do 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: exactly what people seven here to do, which is to 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: get it done. Is he's sound on with Kevin Zer 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: Relate on Bloomberg nine one and one oh five point 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: seven F m H D two Boltemore, t G I 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: F and not t G I F for Lori Laughlin 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: who is still facing that legal battle. But today it's 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: all about the veto. Here in Washington, President Trump saying 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: and signing just within the last two hours that he 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: will be in fact vetoing that bill that was sent 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: to him in a Republican controlled Senate. Twelve senators in 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: the Republican Party saying that they believe the President's decision 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: to declare a national emergency along the US Mexico border 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: is unconstitutional game on, says President Trump, sending it back 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: to Congress veto the fallout. We have an all star 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: panel to help us navigate through President Trump's first presidential veto. 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: We have an all star panel for that. We have 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: Jenna Ellis at Trump twenty campaign advisory board member and 26 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: also a constitutional law attorney. Dave Brown is a Democratic 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: strategist and former advisor to Senator Patty Murray. Meanwhile, Boeing, 28 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: what will happen with Boeing as we get into the 29 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,919 Speaker 1: next week, particularly after the f A a reversing course 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: this week on their decision and now grounding those seven 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: thirty seven Max eight airplane families. How soon can they 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: get those planes back in the air. And of course 33 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: the tragedy in New Zealand, the politics already overshadowing a 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: horrible situation, will get reaction from our panel. But before 35 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: all of that, that was just over at the White House, 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: as President Trump announcing his decision making it formal to 37 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: sign that presidential veto, his first presidential veto, in the 38 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: Oval Office. He was joined by Kelly and Conway, as 39 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: well as Angel family members, the victims of UH immigrants 40 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: who are here illegally undocumented, who are gang members and 41 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: who murdered UH folks, family members, and the President saying 42 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: that he believes that the legislation that was on his 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: desk was weak legislation and something that he just had 44 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: no choice but to UH to veto. The math is 45 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: is technically on his side. I mean, it's increasingly unlikely 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: that they have the votes at all, meaning anyone in 47 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: Congress to UH to override the veto, that magic number 48 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: would be sixty seven. In the Senate breaking out the 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: Schoolhouse Rock playbook right now, sixty seven votes are needed 50 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: to override a presidential veto and sent a majority. Leader 51 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell, who is against is with the president on this. Uh. 52 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: You know, the votes just simply aren't there. The vote 53 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: in the Senate yesterday was Republicans voted with Democrats to 54 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: declare that the president's decision to say that there's a 55 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: national emergency along the US Mexico border is unconstitutional. But 56 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: what's really interesting, and when you crunch these numbers, is 57 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: that every Republican who's up for re election, with the 58 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: exception of Senator Susan Collins, a centrist from Maine, voted 59 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: with President Trump and did not say that this was unconstitutional. 60 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: So it would appear that people like Senator Corey Gardner, 61 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: who have had a tense at times relationship with President Trump, 62 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: there with him on this particular issue. And again, the 63 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: formality of this video, it's it's lawmakers are in recess 64 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: next week, so it's increasingly unlikely that there would even 65 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: be a failed vote to override this video, but it 66 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: still is historic. It is the first one, which is 67 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: why we're grateful for Jenna Ellis Trump campaign advisory board 68 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: member and also a constitutional law attorney to join us 69 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: for the hour and Dave Brown, Democratic strategist, friend of 70 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: the program and former advisor to Senator Patty Murray. Jenna, 71 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: no surprise that he decided to do this veto, But 72 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: is there anything at all in terms of the optics 73 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: of twelve Republican senators running the ideological spectrum of conservative ideology, 74 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: someone like a Senator Collins, someone like all the way 75 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: to a libertarian leaning Senator rand Paul to have them 76 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: rebuke him on a key issue of his entire policy agenda. Yeah, 77 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: I think that Ran Paul and the others need to 78 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: actually open the Constitution and remember what Article one actually says, 79 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: and they need to look at what the Constitution mandates 80 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: in terms of limited power, because whenever we ask the 81 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: question is this constitutional, we're not talking political policy, We're 82 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: not talking opinion. We're talking about does the government actor 83 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: in question here? President Trump have the legitimate authority to 84 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: make this decision, not whether he should or should not. 85 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 1: Can he do that? And there's unquestionably yes he can't 86 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: because Congress, with UH the nineteen seventy three Act, as 87 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: well as UH the spectrum of law that is there 88 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: from the legislature, he absolutely has the authority to do this. 89 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: And so for them to rebuke him, that does not 90 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,559 Speaker 1: play well for Rand Paul or anyone else who voted 91 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: against this, because they're just showing their constitutional ignorance. And Dave, 92 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: I think I think Jenna would would maybe agree with this. 93 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: It does allow the president to go to his base 94 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: and say see that I'm still an outsider, that they 95 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: don't even like me in my own party, which had 96 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: worked well for him in the last cycle. But from 97 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: your take, I mean, what what message is being sent 98 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: and will there be an equal librium? Equalizing if not 99 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: a word I invented a work Christine. Is there an 100 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: equal effect in terms of the left to have the 101 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: left say, you know, we've got momentum. Now, yeah, I mean, look, 102 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of different ways to 103 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: argue this one. I mean, Jennet, I am not surprising 104 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: anybody on the program disagree, probably on the constitutional merits 105 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: of this. I think that Article one is pretty clear 106 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: in terms of the power of the person. As a 107 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: former congressional staffer, that's a that's a power of the 108 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: Congress keeps pretty pretty close. Um. I think it's striking 109 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: the twelve Republican senators said to the president, this is 110 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: a step too far. Some analysts are trying to make 111 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: the argument now that Congress is going to spine that 112 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: is uh, perhaps overly optimistic. I still am waiting for 113 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: Congress to really reassert many of the powers that I 114 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: think it's ceded to the presidency, both under this president 115 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: as well as historically under Bush and Obama. But I 116 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: mean I think Democrats, yeah, you know, Democrats benefit from 117 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: a really um resounding vote in the House and and 118 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: the fact that in the Senate it was one vote 119 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: shy of a fellow buster proof and I recognized that's 120 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: not the standard for an override for a veto. But 121 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, sixty votes and sixty votes that's a big deal. 122 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: And I guess I'm kind of confused why the White 123 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: House even fought this one, like why spend the political 124 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: capital because they knew they weren'ting to actually think to 125 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: your point, though, that Congress has ceded so much power 126 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: to the president. I mean, that really then becomes the 127 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: constitutional question that's left for the judicial branch. And so 128 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: it's not a political maneuver for them to say, Okay, 129 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: we passed this legislation. Congress isn't bringing up any sort 130 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: of legislation to reclaim any sort of legislative jurisdiction over 131 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: this issue. And so they can't simply disagree with him 132 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: on a political policy issue and say that on that 133 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: basis makes it unconstitutional. And in fact, the Supreme Court 134 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: in n even held that that you can't just have 135 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: a legislative veto when we're talking about policy over what 136 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: has been ceded to the executive. Well, I mean, I 137 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: think the record is not in the President's favor on this, 138 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: in part because if this were truly an emergency within 139 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: the meaning of the word emergency as defined by Congress. 140 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: Then then why are we talking about this at the 141 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: end of the president's term. I mean, why not deal 142 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: with this during the first two years when he actually 143 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: had a Republican Senate and a House to to work with. 144 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: Dave Brown, Democratics out of just and former advisor to 145 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: Senator Patty Murray Jenna Ellis Trump twenty campaign advisory board 146 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 1: member and constitutional law attorney, reacting today to President Trump's 147 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: decision to veto legislation sent to his desk in which 148 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: twelve Republican Senators joined with every Democrat in the Senate 149 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: to say that it was unconstitutional for the president to 150 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: decide that there is to declare a national emergency along 151 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: the US Mexico border. The math isn't there for supporters 152 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: of this legislation because they don't have, uh, the ability 153 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: to override this veto. Coming up we here directly from 154 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: President Trump from that reaction in the Oval Office when 155 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: he did sign his first presidential veto. We will also 156 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: bring you the latest with regards to Boeing. Where do 157 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: they go from here amid a turbulent week for their company? 158 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: Panel stays. 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I f folks, 166 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: it's Friday, a beautiful Friday at that I was just 167 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: over at the White House President Trump declaring his first veto, 168 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: signing his first vito, and it got me thinking, what 169 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: does it mean now that he's actually issued this first 170 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: vito vetoing legislation that rules that it's unconstitutional for him 171 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: to declare a national emergency along the US Mexico border. 172 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: Wasted less than a day, I mean almost immediately responding 173 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: UH and vetoing this. So what happens next? Because lawmakers 174 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: are in recess next week, so no one's really in town, 175 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: and they don't have the A Speaker Pelosi doesn't have 176 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: the votes to override this veto, and UH Senate Majority 177 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: Leader Mitch McConnell, who doesn't want to see this overturned. 178 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: Uh doesn't. There's not the votes there in the Senate, 179 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: so really it was just a lot of Friday theater. 180 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: But it also is a reminder that Republicans, twelve of 181 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: them in the Senate, including Senator Susan Collins, Senator Romney 182 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: UH and Senator Um Senator Rampaul all joining Democrats for 183 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: various reasons to to say that they disagree with President Trump. 184 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: An interesting debate, no question. Meanwhile, there's the legal battle 185 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: brewing in the courts. We have Jenna Ellis with us 186 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: for our panel today. She is a Trump campaign advisory 187 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: board member. We'll check in about race coming up later 188 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: in the in the show. She's also a constitutional law attorney. 189 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: Dave Brown as a Democratic strategist and former advisor to 190 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,239 Speaker 1: Senator Patty Murray. Both have experience in communicating with businesses. 191 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: I I want to play for folks, though. What President 192 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: Trump had to say earlier today in the Oval Office, 193 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: take a listen to President Trump on his decision to 194 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: issue his first veto Rarely have we had such a 195 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: national emergency. Therefore, to defend the safety and security of 196 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: all Americans, I will be signing and issuing a formal 197 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: veto of this reckless resolution, and that's what it was. 198 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: And I have to in particular thank the Republican strong, 199 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: wonderful people, the Republican senators that we're on our side 200 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: and on the side of border security. So that was 201 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: President Trump speaking earlier today in the Oval Office about 202 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: his decision to sign his first presidential veto. Uh And 203 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: and Dave, I'll start with you this time in terms 204 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: of really where this goes from here? Really nowhere? I mean, 205 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: this is it? Yeah, I mean, this is it. I 206 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: think it's it's fair to say that. And you kind 207 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: of alluded to this at the at the top of 208 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: this have the you know, the President's gonna be able 209 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: to go to his base. He's being able to finally say, 210 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: for the first time, I kept my promise on this wall. 211 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: He couldn't say that the last couple of times, because 212 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: in fact, he cut deals for spending bills where he 213 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: didn't keep his promise. So this is important for him 214 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: in the in the run up to to the election 215 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: and really mobilizing his space jen for for from the 216 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: perspective of him being able to say, hey, look, Republicans 217 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: are even against me. Base and I'm still fighting for 218 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: this wall. Is that is that an opportunity for him 219 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: to still kind of as you look at the landscape, 220 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: for him to still say I'm still an outsider. I 221 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: think it's a perfect opportunity for him to resonate with 222 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: the average American who's still very frustrated with inside DC 223 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: politics and the swamp, and to be able to say, listen, 224 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: I am doing everything that I can to work with Congress, 225 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, I will declare 226 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: a national emergency. I will use my power. And I mean, 227 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: he had that promise set up from the very beginning 228 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: that if Congress wasn't going to work with him, then 229 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: he would declare a national emergency. And so to come 230 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: through on that and to build the wall and to 231 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: keep that campaign promise, I think that's absolutely going to 232 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: be critical to it resonates with me as a voter. Dave, 233 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: I don't see how this I don't personally. I mean, 234 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: I know, I mean, there really was no significant risk 235 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: that this would be overturned. Senator Susan Collins. Everyone remembers 236 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: the Kavanaugh confirmation. She was a key vote. Uh, and 237 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: now she can go and she's in a tough re 238 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: election fight in in her state, and she can say, well, 239 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: I voted against him on the wall, or I said 240 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: this was unconstitutional. But no one is surprised that Senator 241 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: Romney is voting, right, I mean, Jenna's la laughing. No 242 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: one's surprised, right, I mean that that he's voting against 243 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: kind of surprised me a little. Senator tell Us is 244 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: the interesting one because because he came out initially and 245 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: said he was going to vote against this, and then he, 246 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, had some extensive discussions with the White House. 247 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: Who knows what threats were made about his his primary 248 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: chances for his reelect, and then he flipped his vote 249 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: on the floor of the Senate. So, you know, I 250 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: think he's a good example. I think he's a good 251 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: example of of why every single Republican senator voted in 252 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: locks up with the White House, because clearly there's a 253 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: concern about being primaried and a concern about what the 254 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: President would do in terms of you know, pointing to 255 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: this person saying he or she's not on my So see, 256 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: the general thinking after the mid terms was that the 257 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: Senate map is is harder for Republicans in the twenty 258 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: cycle than it was in the in the last cycle, 259 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: or that it would be closer not whatever not, it 260 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: would be it would be more difficult. No, I stand 261 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: by I stand by my words, David, that it would 262 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: that would be more difficult in that it would be 263 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. But this kind of shows that they're 264 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: all standing by President Trump at least at this particular 265 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: juncture in the in the ahead of the cycle, and 266 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: hopefully the Constitution as well, because again, if congressmen and 267 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: women are actually looking at doing their job, fulfilling their 268 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: earth of office, like President Trump has, he stayed within 269 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: the constitutional margins on every policy decision that he's made 270 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: and even all his executive orders, everything about immigration. And 271 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: so for the Republicans that voted with him, again, this 272 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't be a political question. It should be a constitutional one, 273 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: and they should reject this regardless of whether they personally 274 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: have invested interest in re election. Coming up, all right, 275 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: we gotta get into we gotta switch it up, because 276 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: there's just been so much news this week. I mean, 277 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: it's it's remarkable and tragic news at that. I do 278 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: want to talk about coming up the latest on the 279 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: Boeing investigation, because According to my colleagues reporting on the 280 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg terminal, Alan Levin. He's reporting that a screw like 281 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: device was found in the wreckage of the Boeing Companies 282 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: seven thirty seven Max eight that crashed on Sunday in Ethiopia, 283 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: and it's actually provided investigators with an early clue into 284 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: what happens. And France, and we're going to talk about 285 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: all of this coming up because France is trying to 286 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: decode the black boxes. France is being put in charge 287 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: of this. What does that mean as we look at 288 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: US regulators, at the Federal Aviation Administration and of course 289 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: the National regulation UH structures a nation across around the world. 290 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: Panel Stays Day Brown, Democratic strategist and former adviser to 291 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: Senator Patty Murray. Jenna Ellis Trump twenty campaign advisory board 292 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: member and constitutional law attorney will also be discussing the 293 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: tragedy in New Zealand at the Mosque. You can download 294 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: the sound on podcast on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, 295 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: or by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. You can find 296 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: me as well as my colleagues on radio dot com 297 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio. I'm Kevin CURRELLI you are listening 298 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg. You're listening to sound On with Givins. He 299 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: really on Bloomberg one and one oh five point seven 300 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: f M h D two, Baltimore. Happy Friday, folks. Uh, 301 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: it is Friday, A beautiful, beautiful Friday. President we're talking 302 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: about it. Using his first veto, he's saying that he 303 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: US have the constitutional authority to declare a national emergency 304 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: along the US Mexico border. He vetoed it in the 305 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: Oval Office. That legislation a rebuke from the Republican controlled Senate, 306 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: but not enough votes there to override a presidential veto. 307 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: I bet your son A majority leader Mitch McConnell is 308 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: breathing a sigh of relief that this political back and 309 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: forth ping pong can now come to some type of 310 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: halt as lawmakers return home next week for for recess, 311 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: a congressional recess. The other big story, of course, all 312 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: week has been bowing the fallout for Boeing following the 313 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: two crashes in five months. The uh doomed Ethiopian Airlines 314 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: plane that crashed on Sunday was in trouble almost immediately 315 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: after takeoff. This according to the New York Times who 316 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: is citing a person who reviewed the jets air traffic 317 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: communications and our own colleague Alan Levin reporting on Bloomberg. 318 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: You can read it on the Bloomberg terminal as well 319 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: as the Bloomberg dot com is reporting that a screw 320 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: like device was found in the wreckage of the Boeing 321 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: seven thirty seven Max eight that crashed Sunday in Ethiopia, 322 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: and it's giving investigators an early clue into what happened. 323 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: The position of what this is known as a jack 324 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: screw was used to set the trim that raises and 325 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: lowers the planes knows, and this indicates that the jet 326 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: was configured to dive and obviously it should not have. 327 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: The evidence persuaded US regulators to ground the model. And 328 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: remember just how quickly this story has evolved. All week, 329 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: you had the f a A standing by Boeing by 330 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: saying that these planes, the Max eight family of the 331 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: Boeing seven, that they were safe to fly. And then 332 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: after that decision, more than forty countries, forty countries in Europe, 333 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: in Asia, in Africa, all going against the f a 334 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: A and saying that they did not have confident in 335 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: the safety of the Boeing company seven thirty seven max 336 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: Sate families grounding those planes. The f a A then 337 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: not just facing a rebuke from the international regulation international regulators, 338 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: but also facing bipartisan criticism from lawmakers. Senator Mitt Romney 339 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: as well as Senator Chris Cohon's all saying that they 340 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: had concerns that they wanted to see what happened, and 341 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: then the f a A actually reverse course and decided 342 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: to ground these planes. Jenna Ellis is a Trump twenty 343 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: twenty campaign advisory board member and constitutional law attorney. Dave 344 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: Brown is a Democratic strategist and former advisor to Senator 345 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: Patty Murray and earlier today, President Trump. I'm sorry no. 346 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: Yesterday President Trump was asked about Boeing. He's really been 347 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: been commenting on this in real time, and I want 348 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: to play and then get reaction from the panel about 349 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: what President Trump had to say about the f a's decision. 350 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: Here's President Trump, the big decision. It's also one of 351 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 1: our largest exporters, uh, one of our you know, truly 352 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: one of the truly great companies of the world. They 353 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: have to figure it out fast. They know that they're 354 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: under great pressure. How much pressure Dave is bowing unders 355 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: as they head into the week anniversary of of this 356 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: this crash on Sunday. I mean, I expect they're under 357 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: a huge amount of pressure, you know. And I'm from 358 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: Washington State, so this is a company in my backyard, 359 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: and I have a huge high regard for them. I mean, 360 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: they're they're an American standard bear, uh and I and 361 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: I have to imagine that they're working seven to to 362 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: figure out what's going on. And you know, if anything 363 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: to me, I think, I think the regulators did the 364 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: right thing. I'm glad that that they acted out of 365 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: an abundance of caution and that's appropriate. I also understand 366 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: that they were waiting for a data but I do 367 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: think it's pretty striking that really, for one of the 368 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: first times that I can remember, UM America didn't lead 369 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: on on aviation safety. And and I won't make this 370 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: too political, but I would say, uh, there's still a 371 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: vacancy at the top of the agency. And I think 372 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: this underscores the criticality of the President nominating someone who 373 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: can be confirmed by the Senate in the sent of 374 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: taking up that nomination and actually getting an f A 375 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: administrator in place. Yeah, and I think that, you know, 376 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: having that type of vacancy should be filled, uh, you know, 377 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: fairly sooner. I actually agree with you that this is 378 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: one of the first time in a minute that I 379 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: did it point of agreement, because because I agree with 380 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: you that America should be the leader in this and 381 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: to have the pressure forty countries and then telling the 382 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: f A, which is not under leadership right now, I mean, 383 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: that's something we're thankfully President Trump stepped in and you know, 384 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: directed them to do this and said, you know, we're 385 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: we're looking at this, but the safety of everyone is 386 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: is really paramount here, and out of an abundance of caution, 387 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, as you said, Dave, that was even as 388 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: someone who flies you know, um a lot and and 389 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: flies airlines that have had max sates. I mean I 390 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: went online and looked into and actually changed my flight 391 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: from d C because my flight that was supposed to 392 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: be Monday was on a max sate. And I was like, 393 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm not doing See, that's what's so interesting about this 394 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: whole entire thing is that, And and and earlier than 395 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: maybe about who is that unnergy of the hill On 396 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: And he made that direct point, which was people were 397 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: literally looking at their tickets and like is this is 398 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: this a max sate? And that's that's really the problem, 399 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: I think. And there are likely going to be congressional hearings, 400 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, I was up on the hill all week 401 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: and just seeing the staffers from f A a meeting 402 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: with lawmakers public privately really as they continue to investigate this. 403 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: And and to be quite frank, I mean, you know, 404 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: we made light of it, but it's no laughing matter 405 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: in terms of just how we all agree just how 406 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: important Boeing is as a company and just a major 407 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: economic engine not just for the United States but worldwide 408 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: and and and and truthfully, one of the questions that 409 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: has emerged this week in terms of regulations is that remember, 410 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: pilots are trained by their airlines, and airlines are overseen 411 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: by their country's regulators. So that means that whomever was 412 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: piloting this Ethiopian airline was it. It's not like Boeing 413 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: is training these specific pilots. So there are so many 414 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 1: questions questions for Boeing that Boeing will have to answer, 415 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: and questions as well for the international regulators for Ethiopia, 416 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: for all of these countries, and that I think everyone, 417 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: you know, we we in the media do this and 418 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: I'll be self critical here where we all try to 419 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: have some critique over oh they had the wrong crisis response. 420 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: This isn't about that people lost their lives. People need 421 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: to let this investigation play out, but also look at 422 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: all areas asked, all of these questions, particularly pertaining to 423 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: the international scope of this UH and international regulators and 424 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: how they are training their pilots. Coming up, we have 425 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: more on the other tragedy from this week that is 426 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: from New Zealand, and that horrific tragedy at the mosque 427 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: will get reaction from our panel on how that was 428 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: handled both as a politics matter and on a policy 429 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: matter as well. Jenna Ellis is Trump campaign advisory board 430 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: member and constitutional law attorney. Dave Brown as a Democratic 431 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: strategist and former advisor to Senator Patty Murray. I'm Kevin Crelli. 432 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: You're listening so Bloomberg. This is sound on with Kevin's 433 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: really on Bloomberg one and one oh five point seven 434 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: a m h D two Baltimore. Amazing that at my 435 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: advice hive, so many people want to take a bature 436 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: with me. Happy birthday to Ruth Bader Ginsburg. That was 437 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: her that was she was speaking last year. RBG was 438 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: speaking last year joking about about how many people want 439 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: to take a picture in a selfie with her. She 440 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: turns eighty six today. Happy birthday to RBG. Wasn't the 441 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: only birthday this week. Mitt Romney celebrated his birthday as well. 442 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: Do you know how old he was? I'll put that 443 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: question to my to my panel, Dave. Dave Brown is 444 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: a Democratic tragistion former advisor to Senator Patty Murray. I'm 445 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: sure you were wishing Senator romneya I'm sure you were 446 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: blowing out one by one his candles. And Jenna Ellis 447 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: Trump twenty campaign advisory board member and constitutional law attorney. 448 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have good salutations to send to r. 449 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: B G as well, because on your birthday, everyone deserves 450 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: to have a happy birthday. They do, absolutely, and you know, 451 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: even conservatives who do wish that she would retire off 452 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: of the bench because she is a liberal activist who 453 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: clearly has gone against her oath of office on her birthday. 454 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: But but that's true. But I mean, I do wish 455 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: her a happy birthday, and I wish you'd think senator retire. 456 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: How old do you think Senator Romney is. Based on 457 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: that cake, he's got to be at least twenty. I counted. 458 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: I counted. I counted quite a few times. How old 459 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: do you think he is? This is going to blow 460 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: your mind. This is if you're listening to this. When 461 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: you find out how old Senator Romney is too, you 462 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: google it, you totally. I sort of got. I just 463 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: came up with that, Wow he is I swear. Wow. Okay, 464 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: well he is seventy two years old. And I did 465 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: not think that he was. Yeah. Really, I was like, 466 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm in mid sixties. It's like the just for men touched. Okay, 467 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm not going okay Romney's office. I made no mention, 468 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: And that was from a Republican by the way, who 469 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: made a comment about Senator Romney's hair moving on Oh 470 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: my happy Friday, folks. Um. But anyway, yeah, wow, how's 471 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean? There's we were talking about Bowing, and I 472 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: really did ask Christine um and we were talking about 473 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: bowing and whatnot and how they've been navigating this and 474 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: and and really they've grounded their airplanes, the Bowing seven 475 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: thirty seven Max eight family. Uh. And what I'm hearing 476 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: is that this could last until mid April, until this 477 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: investigation concludes, a lot of unanswered questions, not just for Mowing, 478 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: but for the f A A, for the international regulators. Earlier, 479 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: of course, we were also talking about President Trump's deployment 480 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: of the first presidential veto, vetoing legislation that was sent 481 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: to him that ruled it was unconstitutional for him to 482 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: declare a national emergency along the US Mexico border. It's 483 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: not gonna go any further than that. The numbers just 484 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: simply aren't there, uh in terms of there to be 485 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: an opportunity to override uh that veto. But of course, 486 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: there was another major major story today, uh, and that 487 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: is this New Zealand mosque story. And I there were 488 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: mass shootings in New Zealand and forty nine people lost 489 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: their lives. There were these mass shootings at at at 490 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: least four This is according to the Associated Press. At 491 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: least forty nine people were shot to death at two 492 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: mosques during midday prayers on Friday. I do want to 493 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: play for you what President Trump had to say about 494 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: that earlier. Today. Here's President Trump weighing in on this 495 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: New Zealand tragedy. What they're going through is absolutely terrible. 496 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: So our hearts are with them and whatever we can do. Uh, 497 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: Dave you followed this all day? I mean, I mean, 498 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: obviously this is a this is a tragedy. We've heard 499 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: different uh just sir from President Trump. The lawmakers have 500 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: been issuing their condolences as well. Former President Obama also 501 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: weighing and issuing condolences. Uh. What do you make of 502 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: all this? I mean, it's it's a it's a tragedy. 503 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: It's it's one of of of too many tragedies. I think. 504 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: I think we as a country and as a world 505 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: are are um so emotionally torn every time we hear 506 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: about about these shootings and about these these evil people 507 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: who who do these evil things. What's particularly, um just 508 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: I think horrific about this is the apparent premeditation that 509 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: this this individual or individuals, um they sought to make 510 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: this uh are ready for for the internet, ready for TV, 511 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: ready for social media event and and there's just such 512 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: a I think, a cruelty and a horrific nous to that. 513 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: So to me, I'm just I don't know, I'm reeling 514 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: from it. Yeah, And and I would agree that this 515 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: is something um and definitely agree with the President's remarks 516 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: and everyone who is just always shocked at how much 517 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: a human being can devalue human life and UM, and 518 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 1: that's really the state of the world. And when we 519 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: look at the perspective of how people can think that 520 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: human beings are not valuable, that they're not made in 521 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: God's image, that they don't have intrinsic value, that's something 522 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: that we need to address, not just on a political level, 523 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: but on really a moral level and understand what's going 524 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: on in society when you can have these type of 525 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: people who you rightly described as evil, UM, who are 526 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: premeditating this, who are who are committing these types of 527 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: atrocities for whatever their motivation that they it's absolutely horrific 528 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: to that someone would be when murder someone based off 529 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: of their off of their religion. I mean, it's and 530 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: there's so many questions the investigation continuing into this UH today. 531 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: Obviously in New Zealand, the President has briefed his administration, 532 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: according to the White House UH and and a lot 533 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: of questions especially and we're gonna get into this next 534 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: week for social media companies, US social media companies Facebook, YouTube, 535 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: and Twitter that that are are we're under criticism today 536 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: for not uh stopping the spread of some of the 537 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: horrific footage that appeared to show the massacre at these 538 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: mosques in New Zealand. Uh And no doubt Big Tech 539 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: will will face questions about that, and we'll it feels 540 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: a little too premature to even go there when this 541 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: investigation is still just very much ongoing. But you know, 542 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean here we are again Jeddah, and and and 543 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: especially you know, when we're looking at the cusp of 544 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: another presidential cycle with a crowd, a democratic field and 545 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: all of these mass shootings. I mean it, you know, Dave, 546 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean, especially when you look at the field, there's 547 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: no question that that Second Amendment. I mean, we saw 548 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: this in the last cycle. President Trump will will you know, 549 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: campaign with the n r A and Democrats are going 550 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: to completely attack the n r A. This is going 551 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: to be a key issue, no, as we head into 552 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: the cycle. Yeah. I mean, look, there's an epidemic of 553 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: gun violence in this country. The numbers bear that out 554 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: and it's it's but how is the fact so so 555 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean the Second Amendment debate and I hate the 556 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: rhetoric around this because I think so much of it 557 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: is is inflated and actually doesn't reflect a constitutional reality. 558 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: But that's probably an entire segment and of itself. Um. Look, 559 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: I think that Democratic candidates, uh, many of whom already 560 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: are very strongly on record in terms of a position 561 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: on gun safety and common sense measures to close loopholes 562 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: with background checks and the like. But you've also seen 563 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: increasingly a number of governors, uh, Demo crats and Republicans 564 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: step up and begin to engage this issue on a 565 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: on a state um state issue state level. So I 566 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: think that's also going to play into this, and and 567 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: voters are increasingly focused on this, they're prioritizing this, and 568 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: at least among Democratic base voters, this certainly will be 569 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: a boy for Senator Bernie Sanders. And we've seen this 570 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: especially as we're now, you know, in the Democratic primary season, 571 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: where you've got a dozen more than a dozen, feels 572 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: like everyone's running. And so particularly from a Democratic primary lens, 573 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: how are the different candidates going to separate themselves? I mean, 574 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: I actually think Senator Sanders is pretty weak on this issue, 575 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: and frankly, I I don't think yeah, well, I mean yeah, 576 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: but um no, I mean, look, I think people like 577 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren people a Kamala Harrison. Actually, Kama Harris will 578 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: be very interesting to watch sort of where where she 579 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: threads a needle here as a former prosecutor in a 580 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: former attorney general. I think she's gonna have a lot 581 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: of credibility. She was a chief law enforcement officer in 582 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: the state of California. I think that that doesn't necessarily 583 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: resonate with the American people, who we have to understand. 584 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you started off your comments save by saying, 585 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, we've seen a lot of gun violence. I 586 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: think we can just say we've seen a lot of violence. 587 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: It's not it's because because this is especially being on 588 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: the Trump twenty advisory campaign board. I mean, there's no 589 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: question that when you look at such a crowded democratic field, 590 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: what are you looking at? Who is the biggest threat 591 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: right now in this field? Or what are you noticing 592 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: that's a margin? Go ahead, Yeah, I don't. I don't 593 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: really think anyone is a threat. I mean that that's 594 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: coming out so far because Trump has you know again 595 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: he he is so solid and fulfilling his promises. But 596 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: if we look at the Democrats, how they are kind 597 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: of in fighting. Um, I don't think that gun control 598 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: is going to be one of their biggest issues. I mean, 599 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: they're going to have to look and answer to the 600 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: strong economy, to Trump's policies, to how strong he's been 601 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: an immigration. They're going to have to give voters a 602 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: reason to not go with the extreme progressive left. I 603 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: don't think that Nancy Pelosi or any of these have 604 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: been strong by not condemning things like anti semitism, especially 605 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: when we look at what's going on now with these 606 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 1: types of mass shootings we have. They're going to have 607 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: to respond and not be so the party of the 608 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: thirty seconds, so very quickly. What's on your radar for 609 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: next week? For next week, I think that possibly the 610 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: Mueller report will be for standing down, So we'll we'll see, 611 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: but I think that that could likely happen, Dave. I mean, 612 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: I kind of want to respond to all the things 613 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: that I just Mueller is gonna happen soon, so I'll 614 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: take the easy way out. Mueller coming, well, you know, 615 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: we agree on that. Another another point of agreement. I 616 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: want to we ran out of time, Dave, We ran 617 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: out of time. I never do. That's such a lot, 618 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, that's live. I want to thank Jenna Ellis 619 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: Trump twenty campaign advisory board member, her first time on 620 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: the program. Thank you for coming on. And a constitutional 621 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: law attorney. Perfect day to have her on, given the 622 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: constitutional debate in the nation. And Dave Brown, Democratic strategist 623 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: and former advisor to Senator Patty Murray. They agree on 624 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 1: nothing politically, but I got them to agree on sushi. 625 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. Have an excellent weekend, enjoy this 626 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: beautiful day. I'll see you next week. I'm Kevin CURRELLI 627 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: you're listening to Bloomberg