WEBVTT - Drive Time: 2023 Quarterbacks and Special Teams Review 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.800 To our remove going deep speedways. 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:08.600 Peace do hell peas from the Baptist Health Studios inside 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:14.680 the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:17.759 He's God my. 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:19.440 Havnds in the playoffs. 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:32.200 What is up, Dolphans And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:35.080 I am your host, Travis Wingfield, and on today's show, 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.760 it is the off season, which usually for me on 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.840 this podcast means it's series time. We start the off 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:44.440 season series with the Exit Interview Series twenty twenty four edition. 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:47.440 We'll go QB's first. We're also gonna review the divisional 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:49.960 round of the NFL playoffs and what we learned from 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:53.360 the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:54.080 This is. 0:00:55.800 --> 0:01:00.680 The Draft Time Podcast. May Daffy, I feel like it's 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.920 become a theme on the show where I get meta 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.240 off the top about the length of the show. And 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.120 I was certain the off season would be when the 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:11.840 podcast finally did revert back to thirty minute programs. But 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.280 I put together today's podcast and that ain't going to 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.240 be the case. And Philip bustering here off the top 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:18.680 ain't gonna do any of that either. We're going to 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:22.200 talk about the quarterback position. I have a lot, a 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.600 lot of two a tongue of Vailoa data to go 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:25.840 over here with you guys. 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:27.640 We're also going to talk about the divisional round and 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:28.280 what we learn from that. 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.760 Let's go ahead and start by doing exactly that with 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:34.080 the chronological order of the games. Ravens and Texans kicked 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.120 a thing off on Saturday afternoon, and it was a 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.399 one sided affair, as the Ravens have played all year long. 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.000 And I'm gonna start here with CJ. Stroud's passing chart 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.800 in the divisional round, which featured three completions of ten 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.920 plus yard air throws and everything else was basically under 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:55.080 ten yards behind the line scrimmage quick game screen game, 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.320 and you'll find the exact same thing was true about 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.400 Josh Allen's game here in just one second. But I 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.880 thought that was because you know, what do we hear 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.240 during the wild card round weekend? Why can't you throw 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.320 the football deep? Just try it deep, just just throw 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.840 the ball down there, regardless of coverage. Well, because that's 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:10.200 not how it works. But I also want to talk 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.200 about this because Stroud was great all year long, fizzled 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:15.040 out in the Divisional round against a great team. That's 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.080 sometimes what happens, and you don't have to make a 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:22.040 legacy defining take about every single game every single year. 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.160 But I will say it kind of feels on the 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.400 other side of the football like the only way to 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:31.720 really get after these Clydesdale quarterbacks. And I've got two 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:34.160 new terms for quarterbacks, Clydesdale's and Cyborgs. 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:35.680 I feel like Josh Allen's a Cyborg. 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.119 I feel like Lamar Jackson's a Clydesdale And I feel 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.960 like Patrick Mahomes is somewhere in the middle of that 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.679 with better processing. But the best way to get after 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:48.800 these Clydesdale quarterbacks your Lamar Jackson's, your previously your Russell Wilson's, 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:52.239 I would say a Marcus Mariota, you know, to a 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:55.160 lesser degree. And Josh Allen fits in this mold as well, 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.160 especially when it comes to the Mighty Dolphins games, because 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.360 we know that he burns us with his legs every 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:03.360 damn time. Is blitzing, like blitzing. These mobile quarterbacks go 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.840 down swinging. Don't put the call on the umpire on 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:09.120 that three and two pitch that's just three inches off 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.840 the outside black of the plate, take a hack at it, 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.040 try and drive that ball to right field. Don't want 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.280 to pick you apart with third down scrambles and clock 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.040 bleeding marches because that shortens the game and it forces 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:22.120 your offense to be perfect. We'll talk about how I 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:26.120 guess the converse plan worked against the first bag Nolo 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.120 and the Chiefs, I should say against the Buffalo Bills. 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.000 But man, that just puts so much pressure on your 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:32.960 offense to be perfect. And I get it when you 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.200 have Patrick Mahomes and I hope one of these years 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:39.120 that's what the Dolphins have at the quarterback position. And 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:40.520 for a lot of the year it was that way. 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:42.520 In the playoffs and late in the season it wasn't 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.600 that way. Hopefully you get that way, but for the 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.600 Texans and c. J. Stroud, they were not. But I 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:51.480 just feel like, if you're going to sit back and 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.880 let Lamar Jackson have time and then to assess and 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:58.040 then scramble, also, you're just never gonna get stops that way, 0:03:58.080 --> 0:03:59.720 so might as well heat him up, kind of like 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:01.920 the thirty zero calls we saw back in the twenty 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:03.680 twenty one game down here in South Florida. 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:04.440 And I get it. 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.240 He has way more weapons to attack with nowadays, but 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.200 I just feel like, might as well do that and 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.360 see if Sammy Watkins can't lose a ball in the 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.280 lights in the end zone to find you know your stops, 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.320 and then eventually from there the whole offensive game plan 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.880 for the Ravens deteriorated. But my whole point is this, 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:20.600 just don't let him sit back and run the ball 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.560 and throw the ball and do whatever he wants, because 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.480 then you're almost assured to lose by a lot and 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.080 that's what teams have done all year long against with 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.880 the Ravens offense. I also just you know, to bring 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.200 it back to the Miami Dolphins again, watching the Ravens 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.159 presence in the middle of the field with size and 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:43.000 physicality I think is informative instructive for how the Dolphins 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.960 can attack this offseason because even when they have Mark Andrews, 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:47.719 Like my goodness, it's the best in the league, but 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.960 isay A likely might be the second best in the 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:53.520 league because I just think that there's ability to force 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.039 teams into certain looks, especially for the Miami Dolphins offense 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.000 and the speed that we have, where you can create 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.760 these matchups in those positions, and all year long, I 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.920 felt like we lost those matchups with Cedric Wilson, with 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.680 Brax and Barrios. You know, sometimes it was River Craycraft, 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.159 Wo would get cracks in there. It just never really 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.279 materialized from Miami to have a consistent middle of the 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:13.080 field presence. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.400 And I think you have to look at it that way. 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.320 Not necessarily wide receiver tight end, just someone that can 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:22.640 win on the interior occupied that space. There's there's speed 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.360 elements to it, there's size elements to it, there's quickness 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:29.719 elements to it. And you know, even before or I 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:34.159 should say before that, I was team remake the receiver 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.560 room behind ten and seventeen because I didn't think it 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:41.480 was I didn't think it was you know, tenable going 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:45.000 forward with the contracts and the players and the effectiveness 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.280 that you currently had because in the Buffalo game, for instance, 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.719 man without Waddle and the way they spammed you know, Tyreek, 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.240 you just needed a couple instances where those guys could 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.600 win one on one matchups and you never got it. 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.480 And it was typically on the interior with minimal help 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.560 and three way goes, and you couldn't do it. Plus 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:05.680 I believe that there is a very, very real value 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:11.080 this year for the Dolphins to consider refilling the receiver 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:14.120 pipeline to think about the future beyond Tyreek Hill, right 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.320 because he's not gonna you know, he's I think Tyregk's 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.400 gonna be great for a couple more years. But I 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.839 wouldn't mind having the cheap option for when you know, 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.200 the quarterback money, if that becomes what we do when 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:25.640 that starts to kick in, like, it wouldn't be a 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.279 bad idea to have options down the road. I think 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.200 an early round receiver could make some sense. So some 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.440 names I put down for guys that could fulfill that 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.920 potential position in the draft. The first name I look 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.200 at as Brian Thomas from LSU. He's a six two, 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.040 two hundred and ten pound receiver who has four to 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.520 four speed and can win on the interior. He can 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.839 block inside. That's a guy that to me, would if 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.039 he hits, would solve a lot of your issues you 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:52.279 had and fulfilled that future receiver pipeline issue. Like I 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:57.640 talked about, cheaper options, less asset investment. Kendrick Bourne is 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.520 at the top of my list from the Patriots because 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.120 he played with Mike and Wes McDaniel Wilker for four 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.200 years in San Francisco. I think he's a vastly underrated, 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.960 very very good football player who would come in here 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.840 know the system, will block, can take end of rounds, 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:14.160 can catch tough passes, whip routs, jerk routes, pivots, stuff 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:17.320 that beats that one on one interior coverage. To me, 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.480 he's an ideal asset for that. In market value, I 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:21.240 think is like four and a half million, so it 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.000 would be a little more expensive than what you paid 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.600 for Brags and Barrios. But you also, you know, if 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.760 you can cut money on he and Fredrick Wilson, then 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.280 maybe that makes some sense there too. Juwan Jennings is 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.680 another similar body from the forty nine ers. It's his 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.200 fourth year in the NFL, so he'll be a free 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.240 agent next year. If they can't bring him back, We'll 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.000 see if they can, but he a massively important blocker 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.600 on the interior. In fact, Aska Niners fan, they'll say 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.400 the roles that Kendrick Boord used to play have been 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.880 fulfilled by Juwan Jennings. Miami hasn't found that now. I 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.080 think Eric Azukama is an option for that. In terms 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.320 of an incumbents that you can potentially develop into that role. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.240 I thought that Azukama was going to have a big 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.040 role this year. That was kind of scratching the surface 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.200 in that Week one game against the Chargers. But he 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:00.560 takes the injury. That man is the rest of the 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.160 season and you don't get to find out about that 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.840 beyond that game. But I think that those types of 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.520 players you know, versatile, can carry the football, can block, 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:09.880 can catch the ball vertically, can win inside. 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:11.320 Those are some guys that you're looking at here. And 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:12.360 then at the tight end position. 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.600 Noah Fan from the Seahawks, he's just as a superb 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:17.640 athlete who has the size to go on top of 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:19.600 linebackers and make big plays like kind of like I say, 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.880 I likely did there. So that's kind of my thought 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.440 coming out of that game was interior separators to find 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.600 and to win for your quarterback. Lastly, I found this 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:32.080 fact really fascinating that let me pull this tweet up. 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:36.320 So touchdown returns by defensive slash special teams in their 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.360 playoff career. Peyton Manning had four and twenty seven games, 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.840 Drew Brees had two and eighteen, John Elway one and 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.200 twenty two games, Dan Marino zero in eighteen games. 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:46.920 How about c. J. 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.120 Stroud's played two playoff games already has three, one shy 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.000 of Peyton Manning in twenty seven games, one more than 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:54.600 Drew Brees in eighteen games, and two more than Dan 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.400 Reno in his eighteen playoff games. Why do I bring 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.680 that up? I'm not saying that we should expect to 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.120 get that ever. I just share that tweet with you 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.480 as a way to illustrate that there are so many 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.920 additional variables that lead to strange results this time of year. 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:12.360 The point is that extrapolating everything based off the smallest 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:16.439 of sample sizes as bad process. Forty games sample size, 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:18.920 it's good to draw conclusions from that two or three games. 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:19.760 It never is. 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.760 That's just my point there, Packers and forty nine ers. 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:23.360 Look. 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:27.360 Mistakes by road underdogs are non negotiables in these environments. 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:29.680 Occurred time and time again. For the Packers, you cannot 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:33.200 give the nineteen twenty seven Yankees murderers row for baseball, 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.160 for the non baseball fans, considered the best offensive lineup 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.080 of all time, you cannot give them four outs in 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:39.520 an inning. 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.760 You can't do it. The Packers went mid red zone 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:44.040 field goal. You can't do that. 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.120 They then dropped a room service I int off brock 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.480 Perty's arm, who was terrible, by the way, maybe a 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:51.520 pick six if he catches it. Then a turnover on 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:55.040 downs from third and inches. Once again, the mid red zone. Hey, 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.520 short yardage failures on the road in a loud environment. 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.080 Who's heard of that before? And then they come back 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.600 and have one more mid red zone field goal before 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.560 a couple of late turnovers ultimately doom them. And going 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.840 back to the first game on Saturday, the Texans committed 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.720 pre snap and procedural fouls over and over and over again. 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:15.560 They consistently went from third and eight to third and 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.120 thirteen right, and it was a huge problem for them. 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.160 I thought the Packers also had a problem for that 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.360 in that regard as well, and just couldn't come up 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.400 with a big play in the big moment. And perhaps 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.760 the most Dolphins thing to glean from the weekend, on 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.000 top of the Ravens showing you a middle of the 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:32.400 field big body presence that can separate with either size 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:36.840 or quickness, is that how about these Shanahan Tree offenses 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.480 going on the road in the playoffs and having procedural airs, 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.160 going up against the shot clock, not having third and 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.040 short execution. It seems like it's more than just a 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.199 McDaniel Dolphins thing, because Slowik and the Texans and then 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:52.079 Lafleur and the Packers ran to the exact same issues. 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:53.319 On Sunday Lines and Bucks. 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.480 The concept that you have to have a cyborg quarterback 0:10:56.520 --> 0:11:00.559 to make it this far was pretty disproven, right, I mean, 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.439 sell your entire franchise and hopes and get rid of 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.640 a top ten quarterback in hopes of finding a top 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:06.360 three quarterback. 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:08.640 Just go find Patrick Mahome, Just go get Jes just 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:09.960 go get all Lamar Jackson. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:15.120 That's all you gotta do, Like okay, okay, But you 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:16.680 don't have to have those guys to get this far 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:21.600 because it's just been proven Goff and Mayfield. Is anybody 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.280 clamoring over Jared Goff? I think Jared Goff's a good player, 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.240 and I was actually in the pre draft process very 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.079 anti Jared Goff and his hard knocks appearance when he 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:33.000 didn't know where the sun rise the east or west was. 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.080 Very alarming to me at the time. 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:37.800 But he's turned into a very nice pro and much 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:39.040 in the way a lot of these, you know, thirty 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.360 year old quarterbacks that have a lot of talent can 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.640 progress and see more and more defense and get themselves 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.120 in a position where they became productive starters. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:46.880 For very good football teams. 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:50.360 But to start this game, you know, Baker Mayfield throws 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.440 a pick goff on his first drive. 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:53.600 Has a room service. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.440 I int in the end zone that because he had 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.800 a great game afterwards and it didn't get caught, doesn't 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.480 get talked about it at all. But early on I thought 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.360 pocket man vision of the field. I thought both guys 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:06.280 struggled immensely. And to compound that first half of football 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:07.679 where it was like was it ten to ten? In 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.000 the first half of that game, you know, Stroud didn't 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:13.040 do anything. I heard a podcast said CJ. Stroud played fine. No, 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.000 he didn't, he didn't do anything. Jordan Love threw the 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.800 game away, and brock Purty was awful all night long. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.040 And then you followed up with this display of quarterback 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.640 play in the first half, like, yeah, Allen and Mahomes 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.439 were fantastic in their game, but we know about those guys, 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.640 and that's it. When you have those guys, Yes, it's 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:33.839 obviously a major, major boon and benefit to your long 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.240 term ability to win games and to win playoff games. 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.400 And to go Chase Lombard's I'm not arguing against that point. 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.720 But to sit here and say, if you don't have 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:45.920 one of those top three quarterbacks in a league where 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.559 eight teams get to this point, does the math doesn't 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.559 check out? Like, I'm not a math guy, but it's 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.880 more than three five more in fact, and we had 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.880 that five quarterbacks that were not those guys. So that's 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.360 my whole point. But then after I wrote that down, 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.640 Jared goffh as Hell answered the bell, didn't he I 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:03.679 just love and I'm gonna go back to this point 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.480 that I've made. This was my Ryan Tannehill point. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:07.240 Eight years ago. 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.720 I love that he's showing you the exact trajectory that 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.080 you can get from a quarterback into their thirties. A 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:14.840 good quarterback, you can't be bad and having this you 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.800 can't just develop because you're there. You have to be 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.160 good and put the time in. It's a tail as 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:23.839 old as time quarterbacks. Good quarterbacks who show a proclivity 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.640 for seeing the field, they get better with time. Hell, 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.679 even quarterbacks who don't see the field tend to get 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.400 better like Ryan Tannehill. I wrote a piece for Lockdown 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:35.160 Dolphins Once upon Time, Remember anybody Ryan Tannehill like a 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.920 fine wine getting better with age. I had really cheesy 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.959 headlines back then, but I showed you the growth of 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.719 quarterbacks like Big Ben for instance, who at first was 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.880 a physical specimen but became a see the field, read 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.920 the field, rip it type of quarterback. Drew Brees was 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.040 the same way Ryan Tannehill. You know that was the 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.800 case being made, and he showed that with his post 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.320 Dolphins and Titans career. So quarterbacks who can play and 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:00.120 wind up grinding out their career to whatever point. The 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.319 more they see and especially when they get continuity offensively, 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.920 personnel and play call wise, they can play at a 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.960 very high level or championship level. And during the whole broadcast, 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.440 they kept talking about Jared Goff in the production meetings 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:12.920 they have with him throughout the course of the week, 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.360 mentioning how calm he felt both in the Rams game 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.200 last week and in this one going into it. And 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.240 I've not been shy at all about the fact that 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:25.120 I thought that Tua just felt a little bit rushed 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.600 or frazzled or bothered by the moment, and I think 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.760 that I mentioned this in the previous podcast. He's going 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:31.400 to see so many more of these games because of 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.840 the fact that we have a good football team, a 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:35.920 good coach, a good quarterback. We're gonna play lots of 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.920 big games and hopefully at some point for him this year, 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.840 I hope it just becomes another game. And you know, 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.280 I think Baker Mayfield fits that category of quarterbacks and 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.960 late career trajectory, although it's not as late for him 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.960 as it is for golf, but getting closer to the 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.560 age to age thirty, which GoF is like almost thirty. 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:55.000 But you get what I'm trying to say, in late twenties, 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.640 in the earlier thirties. And then the last couple of 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.400 notes here to kind of finish these two point so, 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.080 there was twenty four point twenty five points per game 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.480 scored in these four divisional round games. There was twelve 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.760 turnover worthy plays by quarterbacks, which is one and a 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:14.040 quarter per quarterback. If and Lamar and Mahomes didn't have any. 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.160 In fact, neither did Josh Allen, I believe, but that 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:20.760 would be two turnovers per game from the non Lamar 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:24.240 and Mahomes quarterbacks. The collective passer rating on the weekend 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.040 was ninety two point four. I think we can all 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.480 agree the three best were Mahomes, Lamar and Josh and 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.160 the other five quarterbacks, They're passer rating was eighty or 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:35.560 eighty four point eight. So not a lot of great 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.200 quarterback plays what I'm trying to say on the Division 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:38.920 round weekend, despite the fact that I think that most 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:43.000 of those guys were, you know, franchise level quarterbacks, whatever 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:43.560 you want to call them. 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:44.080 So there you go. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:46.400 And then the last, last final note here, like the 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:52.240 Lions path man, God got ye six seeded Rams who 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.600 have a great quarterback, but are you know otherwise a 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.920 rebuild team that kind of got hot to get there. 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.360 And then the Bucks that freaking Titans game man, all right, 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.160 last one before we get to the quarterback review of 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.000 twenty twenty three Bills and Chiefs. Keeping this as it 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:07.240 is because I wrote it at the end of the 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.520 first half. It felt to me watching that game like 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.840 Josh Allen was the best player in the sport, him, 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.360 Lamar and Mahomes, you know who took I think a 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.600 slight step back this year. I would still take Patrick 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:20.480 Mahomes if we had a thirty two team fantasy redraft, 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.680 I would take Mahomes first overall on that, but I 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:24.280 think Allen would be a second for me, and Lamar 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.040 a tight third probably how I would do that, but 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.920 either way you can't go wrong. And then of course, 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.800 as the game wraps up, high variance Josh shows up, 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.120 chaos ball Josh shows up. He had stayed patient and 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.000 won all night long. Then he went hunting and damn 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.360 near gave the game away. He should have thrown a 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.400 pick that would have ended the game. His fumble could 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.600 have been a fumble six had not Dalton king Kate 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.400 or Dawson Knox, one of the two tight ends made 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.400 a great play to restrip the football back out of 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.000 the defense's hands. And then he misses an open touchdown 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.240 on the second down play before the Tyler Bass miss 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.720 where he just missed it. It's just so interesting because 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:57.960 we obviously have a different look at this guy because 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.320 we'd get him guaranteed twice a compared to others getting 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:02.760 Mahomes Lamar twice a year. 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:03.400 Whatever it might be. 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.840 Who I you know, I think you can definitely take 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:10.439 the patient approach. But it seems to me like Alan 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.920 will give you one, two, three chances a game mixed 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.760 across all the dominance and tough physical running that he 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.080 does to give you chances in the game. But look 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.040 at this man, Like Josh Allen completed sixteen of his 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.080 passes thrown behind the line of scrimmage. He completed just 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.680 ten of twenty one passes beyond the line of scrimmage 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.200 in this game. Only two completions passed the sticks all 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.880 game long, and only one completion beyond. 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.240 Five yards the entire game. 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.800 Like they reeled him back in and his playmaking with 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:40.399 the legs allows him to do that. But I just 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:42.680 think it's interesting because we heard that you know your 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.760 game plan dictates what your quarterbacks capable of. I think 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:47.159 we all know Josh Allen can throw the ball on 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:48.480 the field, but he didn't do it in this game. 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.679 I just it narratives, right, they're kind of funny. 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.399 Hell, even McDaniel was asked about Tua's case passing chart, 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.120 and I storm, guess what coverage dictates where the ball goes? 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.520 But can we all understand that, of course we cannot. 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.520 Let's go go ahead and take our first break right there, 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:03.520 come back on the other side and do some more 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.359