Speaker 1: To our remove going deep speedways.
Speaker 2: Peace do hell peas from the Baptist Health Studios inside
Speaker 2: the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 1: He's God my.
Speaker 2: Havnds in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: What is up, Dolphans And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 3: I am your host, Travis Wingfield, and on today's show,
Speaker 3: it is the off season, which usually for me on
Speaker 3: this podcast means it's series time. We start the off
Speaker 3: season series with the Exit Interview Series twenty twenty four edition.
Speaker 3: We'll go QB's first. We're also gonna review the divisional
Speaker 3: round of the NFL playoffs and what we learned from
Speaker 3: the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 1: This is.
Speaker 3: The Draft Time Podcast. May Daffy, I feel like it's
Speaker 3: become a theme on the show where I get meta
Speaker 3: off the top about the length of the show. And
Speaker 3: I was certain the off season would be when the
Speaker 3: podcast finally did revert back to thirty minute programs. But
Speaker 3: I put together today's podcast and that ain't going to
Speaker 3: be the case. And Philip bustering here off the top
Speaker 3: ain't gonna do any of that either. We're going to
Speaker 3: talk about the quarterback position. I have a lot, a
Speaker 3: lot of two a tongue of Vailoa data to go
Speaker 3: over here with you guys.
Speaker 1: We're also going to talk about the divisional round and
Speaker 1: what we learn from that.
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and start by doing exactly that with
Speaker 3: the chronological order of the games. Ravens and Texans kicked
Speaker 3: a thing off on Saturday afternoon, and it was a
Speaker 3: one sided affair, as the Ravens have played all year long.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna start here with CJ. Stroud's passing chart
Speaker 3: in the divisional round, which featured three completions of ten
Speaker 3: plus yard air throws and everything else was basically under
Speaker 3: ten yards behind the line scrimmage quick game screen game,
Speaker 3: and you'll find the exact same thing was true about
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's game here in just one second. But I
Speaker 3: thought that was because you know, what do we hear
Speaker 3: during the wild card round weekend? Why can't you throw
Speaker 3: the football deep? Just try it deep, just just throw
Speaker 3: the ball down there, regardless of coverage. Well, because that's
Speaker 3: not how it works. But I also want to talk
Speaker 3: about this because Stroud was great all year long, fizzled
Speaker 3: out in the Divisional round against a great team. That's
Speaker 3: sometimes what happens, and you don't have to make a
Speaker 3: legacy defining take about every single game every single year.
Speaker 3: But I will say it kind of feels on the
Speaker 3: other side of the football like the only way to
Speaker 3: really get after these Clydesdale quarterbacks. And I've got two
Speaker 3: new terms for quarterbacks, Clydesdale's and Cyborgs.
Speaker 1: I feel like Josh Allen's a Cyborg.
Speaker 3: I feel like Lamar Jackson's a Clydesdale And I feel
Speaker 3: like Patrick Mahomes is somewhere in the middle of that
Speaker 3: with better processing. But the best way to get after
Speaker 3: these Clydesdale quarterbacks your Lamar Jackson's, your previously your Russell Wilson's,
Speaker 3: I would say a Marcus Mariota, you know, to a
Speaker 3: lesser degree. And Josh Allen fits in this mold as well,
Speaker 3: especially when it comes to the Mighty Dolphins games, because
Speaker 3: we know that he burns us with his legs every
Speaker 3: damn time. Is blitzing, like blitzing. These mobile quarterbacks go
Speaker 3: down swinging. Don't put the call on the umpire on
Speaker 3: that three and two pitch that's just three inches off
Speaker 3: the outside black of the plate, take a hack at it,
Speaker 3: try and drive that ball to right field. Don't want
Speaker 3: to pick you apart with third down scrambles and clock
Speaker 3: bleeding marches because that shortens the game and it forces
Speaker 3: your offense to be perfect. We'll talk about how I
Speaker 3: guess the converse plan worked against the first bag Nolo
Speaker 3: and the Chiefs, I should say against the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3: But man, that just puts so much pressure on your
Speaker 3: offense to be perfect. And I get it when you
Speaker 3: have Patrick Mahomes and I hope one of these years
Speaker 3: that's what the Dolphins have at the quarterback position. And
Speaker 3: for a lot of the year it was that way.
Speaker 3: In the playoffs and late in the season it wasn't
Speaker 3: that way. Hopefully you get that way, but for the
Speaker 3: Texans and c. J. Stroud, they were not. But I
Speaker 3: just feel like, if you're going to sit back and
Speaker 3: let Lamar Jackson have time and then to assess and
Speaker 3: then scramble, also, you're just never gonna get stops that way,
Speaker 3: so might as well heat him up, kind of like
Speaker 3: the thirty zero calls we saw back in the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one game down here in South Florida.
Speaker 1: And I get it.
Speaker 3: He has way more weapons to attack with nowadays, but
Speaker 3: I just feel like, might as well do that and
Speaker 3: see if Sammy Watkins can't lose a ball in the
Speaker 3: lights in the end zone to find you know your stops,
Speaker 3: and then eventually from there the whole offensive game plan
Speaker 3: for the Ravens deteriorated. But my whole point is this,
Speaker 3: just don't let him sit back and run the ball
Speaker 3: and throw the ball and do whatever he wants, because
Speaker 3: then you're almost assured to lose by a lot and
Speaker 3: that's what teams have done all year long against with
Speaker 3: the Ravens offense. I also just you know, to bring
Speaker 3: it back to the Miami Dolphins again, watching the Ravens
Speaker 3: presence in the middle of the field with size and
Speaker 3: physicality I think is informative instructive for how the Dolphins
Speaker 3: can attack this offseason because even when they have Mark Andrews,
Speaker 3: Like my goodness, it's the best in the league, but
Speaker 3: isay A likely might be the second best in the
Speaker 3: league because I just think that there's ability to force
Speaker 3: teams into certain looks, especially for the Miami Dolphins offense
Speaker 3: and the speed that we have, where you can create
Speaker 3: these matchups in those positions, and all year long, I
Speaker 3: felt like we lost those matchups with Cedric Wilson, with
Speaker 3: Brax and Barrios. You know, sometimes it was River Craycraft,
Speaker 3: Wo would get cracks in there. It just never really
Speaker 3: materialized from Miami to have a consistent middle of the
Speaker 3: field presence.
Speaker 1: And I think you have to look at it that way.
Speaker 3: Not necessarily wide receiver tight end, just someone that can
Speaker 3: win on the interior occupied that space. There's there's speed
Speaker 3: elements to it, there's size elements to it, there's quickness
Speaker 3: elements to it. And you know, even before or I
Speaker 3: should say before that, I was team remake the receiver
Speaker 3: room behind ten and seventeen because I didn't think it
Speaker 3: was I didn't think it was you know, tenable going
Speaker 3: forward with the contracts and the players and the effectiveness
Speaker 3: that you currently had because in the Buffalo game, for instance,
Speaker 3: man without Waddle and the way they spammed you know, Tyreek,
Speaker 3: you just needed a couple instances where those guys could
Speaker 3: win one on one matchups and you never got it.
Speaker 3: And it was typically on the interior with minimal help
Speaker 3: and three way goes, and you couldn't do it. Plus
Speaker 3: I believe that there is a very, very real value
Speaker 3: this year for the Dolphins to consider refilling the receiver
Speaker 3: pipeline to think about the future beyond Tyreek Hill, right
Speaker 3: because he's not gonna you know, he's I think Tyregk's
Speaker 3: gonna be great for a couple more years. But I
Speaker 3: wouldn't mind having the cheap option for when you know,
Speaker 3: the quarterback money, if that becomes what we do when
Speaker 3: that starts to kick in, like, it wouldn't be a
Speaker 3: bad idea to have options down the road. I think
Speaker 3: an early round receiver could make some sense. So some
Speaker 3: names I put down for guys that could fulfill that
Speaker 3: potential position in the draft. The first name I look
Speaker 3: at as Brian Thomas from LSU. He's a six two,
Speaker 3: two hundred and ten pound receiver who has four to
Speaker 3: four speed and can win on the interior. He can
Speaker 3: block inside. That's a guy that to me, would if
Speaker 3: he hits, would solve a lot of your issues you
Speaker 3: had and fulfilled that future receiver pipeline issue. Like I
Speaker 3: talked about, cheaper options, less asset investment. Kendrick Bourne is
Speaker 3: at the top of my list from the Patriots because
Speaker 3: he played with Mike and Wes McDaniel Wilker for four
Speaker 3: years in San Francisco. I think he's a vastly underrated,
Speaker 3: very very good football player who would come in here
Speaker 3: know the system, will block, can take end of rounds,
Speaker 3: can catch tough passes, whip routs, jerk routes, pivots, stuff
Speaker 3: that beats that one on one interior coverage. To me,
Speaker 3: he's an ideal asset for that. In market value, I
Speaker 3: think is like four and a half million, so it
Speaker 3: would be a little more expensive than what you paid
Speaker 3: for Brags and Barrios. But you also, you know, if
Speaker 3: you can cut money on he and Fredrick Wilson, then
Speaker 3: maybe that makes some sense there too. Juwan Jennings is
Speaker 3: another similar body from the forty nine ers. It's his
Speaker 3: fourth year in the NFL, so he'll be a free
Speaker 3: agent next year. If they can't bring him back, We'll
Speaker 3: see if they can, but he a massively important blocker
Speaker 3: on the interior. In fact, Aska Niners fan, they'll say
Speaker 3: the roles that Kendrick Boord used to play have been
Speaker 3: fulfilled by Juwan Jennings. Miami hasn't found that now. I
Speaker 3: think Eric Azukama is an option for that. In terms
Speaker 3: of an incumbents that you can potentially develop into that role.
Speaker 3: I thought that Azukama was going to have a big
Speaker 3: role this year. That was kind of scratching the surface
Speaker 3: in that Week one game against the Chargers. But he
Speaker 3: takes the injury. That man is the rest of the
Speaker 3: season and you don't get to find out about that
Speaker 3: beyond that game. But I think that those types of
Speaker 3: players you know, versatile, can carry the football, can block,
Speaker 3: can catch the ball vertically, can win inside.
Speaker 1: Those are some guys that you're looking at here. And
Speaker 1: then at the tight end position.
Speaker 3: Noah Fan from the Seahawks, he's just as a superb
Speaker 3: athlete who has the size to go on top of
Speaker 3: linebackers and make big plays like kind of like I say,
Speaker 3: I likely did there. So that's kind of my thought
Speaker 3: coming out of that game was interior separators to find
Speaker 3: and to win for your quarterback. Lastly, I found this
Speaker 3: fact really fascinating that let me pull this tweet up.
Speaker 3: So touchdown returns by defensive slash special teams in their
Speaker 3: playoff career. Peyton Manning had four and twenty seven games,
Speaker 3: Drew Brees had two and eighteen, John Elway one and
Speaker 3: twenty two games, Dan Marino zero in eighteen games.
Speaker 1: How about c. J.
Speaker 3: Stroud's played two playoff games already has three, one shy
Speaker 3: of Peyton Manning in twenty seven games, one more than
Speaker 3: Drew Brees in eighteen games, and two more than Dan
Speaker 3: Reno in his eighteen playoff games. Why do I bring
Speaker 3: that up? I'm not saying that we should expect to
Speaker 3: get that ever. I just share that tweet with you
Speaker 3: as a way to illustrate that there are so many
Speaker 3: additional variables that lead to strange results this time of year.
Speaker 3: The point is that extrapolating everything based off the smallest
Speaker 3: of sample sizes as bad process. Forty games sample size,
Speaker 3: it's good to draw conclusions from that two or three games.
Speaker 1: It never is.
Speaker 3: That's just my point there, Packers and forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: Look.
Speaker 3: Mistakes by road underdogs are non negotiables in these environments.
Speaker 3: Occurred time and time again. For the Packers, you cannot
Speaker 3: give the nineteen twenty seven Yankees murderers row for baseball,
Speaker 3: for the non baseball fans, considered the best offensive lineup
Speaker 3: of all time, you cannot give them four outs in
Speaker 3: an inning.
Speaker 1: You can't do it. The Packers went mid red zone
Speaker 1: field goal. You can't do that.
Speaker 3: They then dropped a room service I int off brock
Speaker 3: Perty's arm, who was terrible, by the way, maybe a
Speaker 3: pick six if he catches it. Then a turnover on
Speaker 3: downs from third and inches. Once again, the mid red zone. Hey,
Speaker 3: short yardage failures on the road in a loud environment.
Speaker 3: Who's heard of that before? And then they come back
Speaker 3: and have one more mid red zone field goal before
Speaker 3: a couple of late turnovers ultimately doom them. And going
Speaker 3: back to the first game on Saturday, the Texans committed
Speaker 3: pre snap and procedural fouls over and over and over again.
Speaker 3: They consistently went from third and eight to third and
Speaker 3: thirteen right, and it was a huge problem for them.
Speaker 3: I thought the Packers also had a problem for that
Speaker 3: in that regard as well, and just couldn't come up
Speaker 3: with a big play in the big moment. And perhaps
Speaker 3: the most Dolphins thing to glean from the weekend, on
Speaker 3: top of the Ravens showing you a middle of the
Speaker 3: field big body presence that can separate with either size
Speaker 3: or quickness, is that how about these Shanahan Tree offenses
Speaker 3: going on the road in the playoffs and having procedural airs,
Speaker 3: going up against the shot clock, not having third and
Speaker 3: short execution. It seems like it's more than just a
Speaker 3: McDaniel Dolphins thing, because Slowik and the Texans and then
Speaker 3: Lafleur and the Packers ran to the exact same issues.
Speaker 1: On Sunday Lines and Bucks.
Speaker 3: The concept that you have to have a cyborg quarterback
Speaker 3: to make it this far was pretty disproven, right, I mean,
Speaker 3: sell your entire franchise and hopes and get rid of
Speaker 3: a top ten quarterback in hopes of finding a top
Speaker 3: three quarterback.
Speaker 1: Just go find Patrick Mahome, Just go get Jes just
Speaker 1: go get all Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3: That's all you gotta do, Like okay, okay, But you
Speaker 3: don't have to have those guys to get this far
Speaker 3: because it's just been proven Goff and Mayfield. Is anybody
Speaker 3: clamoring over Jared Goff? I think Jared Goff's a good player,
Speaker 3: and I was actually in the pre draft process very
Speaker 3: anti Jared Goff and his hard knocks appearance when he
Speaker 3: didn't know where the sun rise the east or west was.
Speaker 1: Very alarming to me at the time.
Speaker 3: But he's turned into a very nice pro and much
Speaker 3: in the way a lot of these, you know, thirty
Speaker 3: year old quarterbacks that have a lot of talent can
Speaker 3: progress and see more and more defense and get themselves
Speaker 3: in a position where they became productive starters.
Speaker 1: For very good football teams.
Speaker 3: But to start this game, you know, Baker Mayfield throws
Speaker 3: a pick goff on his first drive.
Speaker 1: Has a room service.
Speaker 3: I int in the end zone that because he had
Speaker 3: a great game afterwards and it didn't get caught, doesn't
Speaker 3: get talked about it at all. But early on I thought
Speaker 3: pocket man vision of the field. I thought both guys
Speaker 3: struggled immensely. And to compound that first half of football
Speaker 3: where it was like was it ten to ten? In
Speaker 3: the first half of that game, you know, Stroud didn't
Speaker 3: do anything. I heard a podcast said CJ. Stroud played fine. No,
Speaker 3: he didn't, he didn't do anything. Jordan Love threw the
Speaker 3: game away, and brock Purty was awful all night long.
Speaker 3: And then you followed up with this display of quarterback
Speaker 3: play in the first half, like, yeah, Allen and Mahomes
Speaker 3: were fantastic in their game, but we know about those guys,
Speaker 3: and that's it. When you have those guys, Yes, it's
Speaker 3: obviously a major, major boon and benefit to your long
Speaker 3: term ability to win games and to win playoff games.
Speaker 3: And to go Chase Lombard's I'm not arguing against that point.
Speaker 3: But to sit here and say, if you don't have
Speaker 3: one of those top three quarterbacks in a league where
Speaker 3: eight teams get to this point, does the math doesn't
Speaker 3: check out? Like, I'm not a math guy, but it's
Speaker 3: more than three five more in fact, and we had
Speaker 3: that five quarterbacks that were not those guys. So that's
Speaker 3: my whole point. But then after I wrote that down,
Speaker 3: Jared goffh as Hell answered the bell, didn't he I
Speaker 3: just love and I'm gonna go back to this point
Speaker 3: that I've made. This was my Ryan Tannehill point.
Speaker 1: Eight years ago.
Speaker 3: I love that he's showing you the exact trajectory that
Speaker 3: you can get from a quarterback into their thirties. A
Speaker 3: good quarterback, you can't be bad and having this you
Speaker 3: can't just develop because you're there. You have to be
Speaker 3: good and put the time in. It's a tail as
Speaker 3: old as time quarterbacks. Good quarterbacks who show a proclivity
Speaker 3: for seeing the field, they get better with time. Hell,
Speaker 3: even quarterbacks who don't see the field tend to get
Speaker 3: better like Ryan Tannehill. I wrote a piece for Lockdown
Speaker 3: Dolphins Once upon Time, Remember anybody Ryan Tannehill like a
Speaker 3: fine wine getting better with age. I had really cheesy
Speaker 3: headlines back then, but I showed you the growth of
Speaker 3: quarterbacks like Big Ben for instance, who at first was
Speaker 3: a physical specimen but became a see the field, read
Speaker 3: the field, rip it type of quarterback. Drew Brees was
Speaker 3: the same way Ryan Tannehill. You know that was the
Speaker 3: case being made, and he showed that with his post
Speaker 3: Dolphins and Titans career. So quarterbacks who can play and
Speaker 3: wind up grinding out their career to whatever point. The
Speaker 3: more they see and especially when they get continuity offensively,
Speaker 3: personnel and play call wise, they can play at a
Speaker 3: very high level or championship level. And during the whole broadcast,
Speaker 3: they kept talking about Jared Goff in the production meetings
Speaker 3: they have with him throughout the course of the week,
Speaker 3: mentioning how calm he felt both in the Rams game
Speaker 3: last week and in this one going into it. And
Speaker 3: I've not been shy at all about the fact that
Speaker 3: I thought that Tua just felt a little bit rushed
Speaker 3: or frazzled or bothered by the moment, and I think
Speaker 3: that I mentioned this in the previous podcast. He's going
Speaker 3: to see so many more of these games because of
Speaker 3: the fact that we have a good football team, a
Speaker 3: good coach, a good quarterback. We're gonna play lots of
Speaker 3: big games and hopefully at some point for him this year,
Speaker 3: I hope it just becomes another game. And you know,
Speaker 3: I think Baker Mayfield fits that category of quarterbacks and
Speaker 3: late career trajectory, although it's not as late for him
Speaker 3: as it is for golf, but getting closer to the
Speaker 3: age to age thirty, which GoF is like almost thirty.
Speaker 3: But you get what I'm trying to say, in late twenties,
Speaker 3: in the earlier thirties. And then the last couple of
Speaker 3: notes here to kind of finish these two point so,
Speaker 3: there was twenty four point twenty five points per game
Speaker 3: scored in these four divisional round games. There was twelve
Speaker 3: turnover worthy plays by quarterbacks, which is one and a
Speaker 3: quarter per quarterback. If and Lamar and Mahomes didn't have any.
Speaker 3: In fact, neither did Josh Allen, I believe, but that
Speaker 3: would be two turnovers per game from the non Lamar
Speaker 3: and Mahomes quarterbacks. The collective passer rating on the weekend
Speaker 3: was ninety two point four. I think we can all
Speaker 3: agree the three best were Mahomes, Lamar and Josh and
Speaker 3: the other five quarterbacks, They're passer rating was eighty or
Speaker 3: eighty four point eight. So not a lot of great
Speaker 3: quarterback plays what I'm trying to say on the Division
Speaker 3: round weekend, despite the fact that I think that most
Speaker 3: of those guys were, you know, franchise level quarterbacks, whatever
Speaker 3: you want to call them.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 3: And then the last, last final note here, like the
Speaker 3: Lions path man, God got ye six seeded Rams who
Speaker 3: have a great quarterback, but are you know otherwise a
Speaker 3: rebuild team that kind of got hot to get there.
Speaker 3: And then the Bucks that freaking Titans game man, all right,
Speaker 3: last one before we get to the quarterback review of
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three Bills and Chiefs. Keeping this as it
Speaker 3: is because I wrote it at the end of the
Speaker 3: first half. It felt to me watching that game like
Speaker 3: Josh Allen was the best player in the sport, him,
Speaker 3: Lamar and Mahomes, you know who took I think a
Speaker 3: slight step back this year. I would still take Patrick
Speaker 3: Mahomes if we had a thirty two team fantasy redraft,
Speaker 3: I would take Mahomes first overall on that, but I
Speaker 3: think Allen would be a second for me, and Lamar
Speaker 3: a tight third probably how I would do that, but
Speaker 3: either way you can't go wrong. And then of course,
Speaker 3: as the game wraps up, high variance Josh shows up,
Speaker 3: chaos ball Josh shows up. He had stayed patient and
Speaker 3: won all night long. Then he went hunting and damn
Speaker 3: near gave the game away. He should have thrown a
Speaker 3: pick that would have ended the game. His fumble could
Speaker 3: have been a fumble six had not Dalton king Kate
Speaker 3: or Dawson Knox, one of the two tight ends made
Speaker 3: a great play to restrip the football back out of
Speaker 3: the defense's hands. And then he misses an open touchdown
Speaker 3: on the second down play before the Tyler Bass miss
Speaker 3: where he just missed it. It's just so interesting because
Speaker 3: we obviously have a different look at this guy because
Speaker 3: we'd get him guaranteed twice a compared to others getting
Speaker 3: Mahomes Lamar twice a year.
Speaker 1: Whatever it might be.
Speaker 3: Who I you know, I think you can definitely take
Speaker 3: the patient approach. But it seems to me like Alan
Speaker 3: will give you one, two, three chances a game mixed
Speaker 3: across all the dominance and tough physical running that he
Speaker 3: does to give you chances in the game. But look
Speaker 3: at this man, Like Josh Allen completed sixteen of his
Speaker 3: passes thrown behind the line of scrimmage. He completed just
Speaker 3: ten of twenty one passes beyond the line of scrimmage
Speaker 3: in this game. Only two completions passed the sticks all
Speaker 3: game long, and only one completion beyond.
Speaker 1: Five yards the entire game.
Speaker 3: Like they reeled him back in and his playmaking with
Speaker 3: the legs allows him to do that. But I just
Speaker 3: think it's interesting because we heard that you know your
Speaker 3: game plan dictates what your quarterbacks capable of. I think
Speaker 3: we all know Josh Allen can throw the ball on
Speaker 3: the field, but he didn't do it in this game.
Speaker 1: I just it narratives, right, they're kind of funny.
Speaker 3: Hell, even McDaniel was asked about Tua's case passing chart,
Speaker 3: and I storm, guess what coverage dictates where the ball goes?
Speaker 3: But can we all understand that, of course we cannot.
Speaker 3: Let's go go ahead and take our first break right there,
Speaker 3: come back on the other side and do some more
Speaker 3: Dolphins centric conversation. I know this was Dolphins, Like, here's
Speaker 3: what this means for Miami as a satellite. Let's get
Speaker 3: more into it with the year end review series the
Speaker 3: quarterbacks up first. That's next Draft Time podcast, your host
Speaker 3: Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation, Segment two
Speaker 3: on a Monday, January twenty second.
Speaker 1: Here the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and get into this exit interview series,
Speaker 3: even though there are no interviews on the podcast, a
Speaker 3: season review position by position. If I'm not mistaken, I've
Speaker 3: done these every year since I got here, and even
Speaker 3: going back before that. You know, we have the off
Speaker 3: season primers coming down the pike here soon, but I
Speaker 3: want to take this portion of the calendar to just
Speaker 3: reflect and address the season that was, so we can
Speaker 3: approach the next phase with full knowledge of our own
Speaker 3: self scouting right kind of the genesis of my podcasting career,
Speaker 3: following the NFL schedule in terms of games from September
Speaker 3: to January, then self scouting, then college scouting, then free agents,
Speaker 3: then back to draft mode, and right in to off
Speaker 3: He's in programs. It comes up fast, man, I promise
Speaker 3: you it'll be Opening Day in baseball before you know it,
Speaker 3: and then we'll have that realization. Wait, the first voluntary
Speaker 3: OTAs are just a couple of weeks away. Whatever it's
Speaker 3: gonna be, right, I think it was April seventeenth last year.
Speaker 3: We start with the quarterback position, and to ease into this,
Speaker 3: we'll also comb over the special teams in this episode,
Speaker 3: because well it's just not something I go deep into
Speaker 3: on this podcast. Maybe something we can fix. Stix Suar
Speaker 3: get some more special teams knowledge on the show. But
Speaker 3: the really nice part about having the same quarterback start
Speaker 3: wire to wire for the first time in eight years
Speaker 3: is that you really just have to do one evaluation.
Speaker 3: Mike White got more clean up duty than any backup
Speaker 3: quarterback I've seen since watching this team.
Speaker 1: Oldheads helped me out here.
Speaker 3: Did Marino get some flower seeds in a bucket hat
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarters a lot back when he was turned.
Speaker 1: Up the league?
Speaker 3: I imagine he did, but it was a different era,
Speaker 3: So who the hell knows well old Heads do? And
Speaker 3: wasn't it nice to not have to start a third
Speaker 3: stringer for multiple games? I mean, that's just no ideal. Right,
Speaker 3: Speaking of the eighteen starts, the last a Dolphins quarterback
Speaker 3: started eighteen games in a season. You guessed it, Dan Marino,
Speaker 3: Jay Fieeddler started seventeen games back in two thousand and
Speaker 3: two playoff games, missed one regular season game. Chad Pennington
Speaker 3: started seventeen games in two thousand and eight. Dan Reno
Speaker 3: started eighteen games in nineteen ninety eight, twenty five years ago.
Speaker 3: It's fitting that since the same era we've had to
Speaker 3: go back to in order to find the last time
Speaker 3: Dolphins had a top ten offense coincides with this. In fact,
Speaker 3: we've had top ten offenses for back to back years
Speaker 3: for the first time since the ninety four ninety five seasons.
Speaker 1: That's longer than.
Speaker 3: I imagine a chunk of this podcast audience has been alive.
Speaker 3: All right, come with me into the weeds. We're gonna
Speaker 3: bite back against a lot of Twitter bad apples, Okay,
Speaker 3: because everything around this quarterback. I feel like if it
Speaker 3: was twenty years ago without the advent of social media
Speaker 3: and constant morning talk show nonsense that feeds the beast,
Speaker 3: I feel like everyone would just say, oh, that's a
Speaker 3: good quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's their quarterback going forward.
Speaker 3: But because we have to bandy about all these horrible tweets,
Speaker 3: ideas and concepts, and non experts of the game providing
Speaker 3: thoughts that they should you know, make serious decisions based
Speaker 3: upon these non expert thoughts, like I see one of
Speaker 3: the guys on the beat. You know, not to single
Speaker 3: anybody out, but let's talk about it, because if you
Speaker 3: put it on Twitter, it's it's fair game to talk
Speaker 3: about right. Thump this idea that there are excuses being
Speaker 3: made for TUA right now, like, no, they are not.
Speaker 3: The excuse making has now flipped to the other side,
Speaker 3: like you're the one making the excuses. I've always said,
Speaker 3: just blanket statements that say no excuses is a cover
Speaker 3: for I'm not doing the work to find the context
Speaker 3: to find out why. And if you don't find out
Speaker 3: the why, you have zero chance to repair the issue.
Speaker 3: My sink is broken and it's leaking. Okay, it's it's
Speaker 3: a bad sink. Well, what are you going to do to
Speaker 3: fix it? And yes, I compare media coverage to the
Speaker 3: actual team. If you want to be taken seriously and
Speaker 3: compare your own personal record to teams of drafting or
Speaker 3: whatever your fantasy GM stuff is, you should probably enact
Speaker 3: some similar type of value evaluation or else you're just
Speaker 3: a fan with the keyboard, which I mean, that's what
Speaker 3: we are faced with ninety nine percent of the time, right.
Speaker 3: But I saw the thing now, you're making excuses for
Speaker 3: two of if you point out the injuries this team
Speaker 3: has had down the stretch that contributed to your collapse
Speaker 3: and three straight losses to three really good football teams,
Speaker 3: and if you heard the Friday podcast, you know we
Speaker 3: use the context of the injuries to explain a lot
Speaker 3: of reasons why behind the collapse and its occurrence, which
Speaker 3: issues out plenty of blame, shortcomings and things the incumbents
Speaker 3: have to get better at, while spelling out the gravity
Speaker 3: of the challenge they faced with all these practice reps
Speaker 3: lost to injuries, right, and it compounded with what was
Speaker 3: already a bad road game operation. And that's a foremost
Speaker 3: issue that has existed for two years and must must
Speaker 3: get better next year. But like cutting bait on that
Speaker 3: after two years, Like that's again where I ask you
Speaker 3: to find historical context to understand that's what bad franchises do.
Speaker 1: That's what the.
Speaker 3: Panther's are doing right now. Okay, I'm not comparing the success.
Speaker 3: Nothing they've done has worked But when you have a
Speaker 3: decision maker who issues out a big contract to a quarterback,
Speaker 3: then eight weeks later into the season decides against it
Speaker 3: and then does the exact same thing with the head coach,
Speaker 3: that's how you become the least attractive destination. That's how
Speaker 3: you get your ticket prices in December to under two
Speaker 3: bucks a ticket, and it's how you become an annual
Speaker 3: bottom feeder.
Speaker 1: Just watch the Panthers.
Speaker 3: I promise you are not going to win more than
Speaker 3: six games in the next three years. That's a promise,
Speaker 3: and it's because a fan bought their team. Seriously, go
Speaker 3: look up David Tepper's background football fan and mega capitalists
Speaker 3: who bought a team and wanted to play real life
Speaker 3: fantasy football like we see a lot on these Twitter streets.
Speaker 3: That's a diatribe to say the injuries are excuses, and
Speaker 3: then you point to at first it was the receivers
Speaker 3: weren't good enough, Then it was flow sabotaged him, then
Speaker 3: it was the offensive line was bad. Now it's injuries, No, dude,
Speaker 3: it's context, and no one's making excuses. And you know why,
Speaker 3: because two had an awesome year all freaking year. He's
Speaker 3: had two awesome years. And after the first one, all
Speaker 3: of you said, people like this tweeter for example, Well
Speaker 3: he needs to play every game, and he did that.
Speaker 3: Guess what his stats wound up right back where they
Speaker 3: were last year on the smaller sampleized sample size, literally
Speaker 3: top four and ninety percent of the main QB statistics
Speaker 3: that are credible to give you a quantification of what
Speaker 3: you see with your own eyeballs, and that's counting stats
Speaker 3: and advanced metrics. The excuses are you cherry picking four
Speaker 3: games to make your point. Well, if you excuse the
Speaker 3: other eighty five percent of the games, then you're left
Speaker 3: with this.
Speaker 1: You can't pay this like, yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 3: Reduce anyone down to the worst fifteen percent of their
Speaker 3: profession or their work as a husband, a fo, whatever
Speaker 3: it might be. You're not going to measure up.
Speaker 1: You can't do that.
Speaker 3: And again, I acknowledge these bad games showing up at
Speaker 3: the worst time of year is a bad thing. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying that at all, But I'm not naive enough
Speaker 3: to think that some made some magic pixie dust that
Speaker 3: just shows up at two was window at two am
Speaker 3: in December and sprinkle some kind of throw accuracy decrease
Speaker 3: power over him. I tend to live in the reality
Speaker 3: where we look at context and assess why it wasn't
Speaker 3: good enough. And again he got his percentage of the blame.
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that. And there are plenty of
Speaker 3: other factors as to why the offense folded in the
Speaker 3: final one and a half games of the year. There
Speaker 3: were moments against Baltimore and Buffalo in the first half
Speaker 3: that look good than the second half not so good.
Speaker 3: So really the final three games, but there was good
Speaker 3: sprinkled in the Chiefs game wasn't adherent, just disaster. It
Speaker 3: was terrible, right, Okay, I want to go ahead and
Speaker 3: pull up some data points here real quickly that I
Speaker 3: think do a good job assessing. You know what I'm
Speaker 3: talking about here. You guys are familiar with Bill from
Speaker 3: Boyton on Twitter, right, I'm sure you are. We can
Speaker 3: all stand to be a little bit more like Bill.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, he's been cooking folks lately. Like these
Speaker 3: stats right here. So Tua's league leading four thy six
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty six passing yards is the seventeenth lowest
Speaker 3: for a league leader over the last eighteen years, and
Speaker 3: Bill notes that people have been using this as a
Speaker 3: way to say that Tuas simply took advantage.
Speaker 1: Of a down year. No, it's quite the opposite.
Speaker 3: The lowest was Brady in twenty seventeen, for it's worth
Speaker 3: at forty five seventy seven. What it actually tells you
Speaker 3: is the defense has swung the pendulum back in the
Speaker 3: direction of the offensive outburst era and have found ways
Speaker 3: to make passing more difficult, and in this era, the
Speaker 3: Dolphins quarterback has found a way to shine. It takes
Speaker 3: me back to the idea of quick process or with
Speaker 3: a quick trigger, an accurate thrower stands a better chance
Speaker 3: to sustain success against the shifting defensive paradigm where the
Speaker 3: big play hunters and exhibiting are exhibiting far more variance
Speaker 3: and not for the better. Look at what happened to
Speaker 3: de Shaun Wattson's career. You can look at the guilt
Speaker 3: of being a predator. You can look at the time
Speaker 3: away from football, but the truth is the league changed
Speaker 3: while he was away because nobody was more of a
Speaker 3: big play hunter than Texans to Shawn. Now, predator DeShawn
Speaker 3: is trying to play the same way, but defenses have
Speaker 3: clamped down that and it has made him not successful anymore,
Speaker 3: not to mention the traits by our guy tend to
Speaker 3: have a much much longer shelf life than someone who
Speaker 3: exposes himself to punishment weekly. But that's a different topic.
Speaker 3: Back to the cherry picking of stats. More from Bill
Speaker 3: in Betown. In twenty twenty two, teams that ended up
Speaker 3: with a winning record, TUA went four and four agains
Speaker 3: them with this stat line two hundred and seventy seven points,
Speaker 3: six yards per game, sixteen touchdowns, five picks, two hundred
Speaker 3: two touchdowns per game, less than a pick per game.
Speaker 3: If you pro rate that over seventeen games, it's forty
Speaker 3: seven hundred and nineteen yards, thirty four touchdowns, eleven picks.
Speaker 3: Billy being in moneyball, man, what are we cussword talking
Speaker 3: about here?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: One more real quick again? The whole flip your model
Speaker 3: after a few games. That's how you wind up making
Speaker 3: poor decisions right and look nothing personal, but my man
Speaker 3: elite Marino used to be elite to a man. Reminds
Speaker 3: me of when I cursed off and swore off Tannehill
Speaker 3: out for the first two picks he threw in the
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen Packers game, and then he came back and
Speaker 3: had like the best three games of his career. It's
Speaker 3: kind of funny how that works. But formerly elite TUA,
Speaker 3: only real TUA stands up shared this gym. Tua with
Speaker 3: two top ten wide receivers. Oh, and they're fast. He
Speaker 3: mentioned that they're fast. Forty six hundred and twenty four yards,
Speaker 3: twenty nine touchdowns, fourteen picks. Marino with two top ten
Speaker 3: receivers who also were fast five eighty four yards, forty
Speaker 3: eight touchdowns, seventeen picks. Well, he didn't mention was the
Speaker 3: mark Clayton missed six games in nineteen eighty five, like
Speaker 3: how Waddle and Tyreek combined to miss four games. More
Speaker 3: if you can't Tyreek's very limited snap count against the
Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans, or Waddle being limited in La Buffalo and
Speaker 3: Germany when he got hurt early or missing the end
Speaker 3: of the Dallas game after having exited earlier with a
Speaker 3: separate injury, my point is that you can find six
Speaker 3: games and they aggregate without those guys, right. Well, when
Speaker 3: Reno was out without one of those guys for six games,
Speaker 3: forty one hundred and thirty seven yards, thirty touchdowns, twenty
Speaker 3: one picks.
Speaker 1: In an eighty four passer rating.
Speaker 3: In fact, Reno had one season where he surpassed two
Speaker 3: was passer rating each of these last two years, and
Speaker 3: that was nineteen eighty four, arguably the greatest passing season
Speaker 3: of all time. His passer rating that year A number
Speaker 3: there is essentially an algorithm uses all the counting stats
Speaker 3: we discussed and quantifies them with one number one oh
Speaker 3: eight point nine two of the last two years, one
Speaker 3: oh five point one, one oh one point one. That's
Speaker 3: one more season with a passer rating over one hundred
Speaker 3: the DAN had his entire career, and I know comparing
Speaker 3: numbers to that era is absurd, but the tweet I'm
Speaker 3: addressing did that, so attacking absurdity with absurdity right. One
Speaker 3: more point on two was stats and twenty nine touchdowns
Speaker 3: because I see that being held against him for some reason. Two,
Speaker 3: which I think was fifth in the National Footballleague this year.
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys are where that we had running
Speaker 3: backs score eighteen touchdowns this year and had another one
Speaker 3: score eight touchdowns. That's twenty seven touchdowns on the ground
Speaker 3: in total. Do you guys know how many teams have
Speaker 3: scored twenty seven rushing touchdowns while I can tell you this,
Speaker 3: eighteen teams in the Super Bowl era the entire NFL
Speaker 3: have scored more rushing touchdowns eighteen teams in the last
Speaker 3: fifty six years.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is.
Speaker 3: You know how you score that many touchdowns because you
Speaker 3: get down there. Because here are the other twenty one
Speaker 3: teams that have scored twenty seven touchdowns on the ground
Speaker 3: in a single season. The nineteen seventy six Steelers. People
Speaker 3: seem to like Terry Bradshaw. The twenty twenty two Philadelphia
Speaker 3: Eagles Jalen Hurts Super Bowl appearance. Pretty good team, pretty
Speaker 3: good quarterback. O six Chargers Rivers was he was okay, right,
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame fringe quarterback. They also went one and
Speaker 3: done that year. The Three Chiefs Trent Green was the
Speaker 3: only quarterback in the NFL at that time that had
Speaker 3: three straight four k yard seasons. They lost in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: The four Chiefs see again lost in the playoffs as well.
Speaker 3: The twenty twenty Saints. I think we like Drew Brees
Speaker 3: a little bit on this podcast. Probably wouldn't wouldn't if
Speaker 3: he were a Dolphin who lost the divisional round that
Speaker 3: year like he did. Right eight Panthers, Cam Newton did
Speaker 3: he change the franchise or what? Cam didn't start a
Speaker 3: playoff game, and then he got smoked in that one.
Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty three Washington team, thisman, pretty good quarterback, lost
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. Nineteen seventy eight Patriots Steve Grogan. They
Speaker 3: had a first round exit, but that's a pretty good quarterback.
Speaker 3: The twenty six team Buffalo Bills finally our first non
Speaker 3: playoff team, and that was ty Rodd's best season of
Speaker 3: his career. The five Seahawks Matt Hasselbacks Super Bowl lost.
Speaker 1: He was a pretty good quarterback.
Speaker 3: The ninety five Cowboys Troykman, people like him, World champions
Speaker 3: that year. Seventy nine Saints Archie Manning, non playoff team,
Speaker 3: seventy eight Seahawks Jim Zorn no playoffs Dan. These late
Speaker 3: seventies teams, huh, seventy five Colts. I don't know who
Speaker 3: Burt James is, but they went one and done with him.
Speaker 3: Kenny Stable nineteen seventy five, the Raiders divisional round exit.
Speaker 3: And then this year there's three teams that had that
Speaker 3: many touchdowns this year, the Lions, the Niners, and the Dolphins.
Speaker 3: Ninety six Washington team also had twenty seven touchdowns. So yeah,
Speaker 3: there are teams that score that many rushing touchdowns only
Speaker 3: do it because they have awesome quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Unless it's nineteen seventy five.
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and take our last break rate there
Speaker 3: and come back and finish up the quarterback room.
Speaker 1: I have a lot more on Tua.
Speaker 3: We'll also do special teams all that next Draft Time podcast,
Speaker 3: your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you.
Speaker 1: By Auto Nation.
Speaker 3: Third segment, and we're finally going to talk about my
Speaker 3: grades for the players and the room in general. My
Speaker 3: two a tongue of bi LOWO grade gets an eight
Speaker 3: point eight this year. It's eighty eight percentile. Right, where's
Speaker 3: that grade come from? It's it's essentially accumulation of film
Speaker 3: watching the statistics where I think he ranks across the
Speaker 3: league at his position, some of the shortcomings factored in.
Speaker 3: I think that he would be in the top ten
Speaker 3: category at that grade.
Speaker 1: We discussed this on Friday. Lets go ahead and revisit
Speaker 1: the counting stats.
Speaker 3: Three three hundred and eighty eight for five sixty is
Speaker 3: sixty nine point three percent, six hundred and twenty six
Speaker 3: yards twenty nine touchdowns at a five point two percent
Speaker 3: clip fourteen picks a two point five percent clip. He
Speaker 3: had two hundred and twenty two first downs, a fifty
Speaker 3: point eight percent success rate, eight point three yards per pass.
Speaker 3: He finished point nine yards per game lower than last
Speaker 3: year at two hundred and seventy two. He took twenty
Speaker 3: nine sacks that was four point nine percent of his dropbacks,
Speaker 3: hit a seven point five to six adjusted yards per
Speaker 3: drop back, two fourth quarter comebacks, two game winning drives
Speaker 3: Chargers and Cowboys, and Pro Football Reference gave him an
Speaker 3: approximate value of sixteen. For comparison, Lamar was nineteen, Allen
Speaker 3: was eighteen, and Patrick Mahomes was fifteen. He was third
Speaker 3: in completion percentage first and yards with the ninth, most
Speaker 3: attempts by the way fifth and touchdowns fourth, and success
Speaker 3: rate second, and yards per attempt fifth, and passer rating
Speaker 3: fourth and sack percentage allowed second, net yards per attempt fourth,
Speaker 3: and EPA per play fourth in completion percentage over expected
Speaker 3: and then obviously fourth and EPA plus CPOE composite. That's
Speaker 3: a stat that a lot of folks like, and you
Speaker 3: typically will find the top quarterbacks in the league and
Speaker 3: that category. I also touched on this and wanted to
Speaker 3: dive a bit deeper. Pro Football Focus has a stat
Speaker 3: called big Time Throws, and I know, PFF we talk
Speaker 3: about him a lot, yet the consumer platform not great.
Speaker 3: I want to touch on it because here's a thing
Speaker 3: when I saw I thought was something worth exploring. Anytime
Speaker 3: I come across the stat where other people in the
Speaker 3: category are like Hall of famers or obviously future Hall
Speaker 3: of famers, that's when you kind of say, hey, let's
Speaker 3: look at that stat a little bit further and go
Speaker 3: deeper inside on the onion. Like when going into the
Speaker 3: final couple of weeks, Tua was tops and passing yards
Speaker 3: and completion percentage and only five quarterbacks had ever done
Speaker 3: that before, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Brett fav
Speaker 3: and Dan Foutz. Like, okay, that's a group you want
Speaker 3: to be a part of. So I went ahead and
Speaker 3: pulled up these five big time throw stats. And big
Speaker 3: time throws essentially equates length of the pass to separation
Speaker 3: down the field. Can you squeeze it into a tight
Speaker 3: window essentially?
Speaker 1: Is what that is.
Speaker 3: And what has two done his entire career every year
Speaker 3: it's literally, well he can't do this, then he does
Speaker 3: it and The funny thing is I think about sometimes
Speaker 3: is going back to like square one. You can literally
Speaker 3: find tweets where it's like he can't complete a ball
Speaker 3: or five yards, and then he does it, and then it's, well,
Speaker 3: he did it on air, he can't do it against team. Well,
Speaker 3: then he does it in eleven on eleven the first
Speaker 3: AG training camp, Well he can't do it in a game,
Speaker 3: seating very first preseason snap with Tyreek Hills a fifty
Speaker 3: yard bomb. Well, he can't do it in the regular season,
Speaker 3: and then he becomes the most prolific productive downfield passer
Speaker 3: over a two year span the National Football League. Then
Speaker 3: they said, well, he can't stay healthy, and he did
Speaker 3: that too, But I do think there were some sacrifices
Speaker 3: that were made. More on that in a moment, let's
Speaker 3: get into these big time throws. So this year, Dak
Speaker 3: forty one, Allen thirty nine, Stafford thirty seven to thirty six,
Speaker 3: Jordan Love thirty five. Last year it was Allen fifty two,
Speaker 3: my God, Mahomes thirty eight, Borough thirty seven, Brady thirty six,
Speaker 3: Gino thirty five. Gino's kind of like the guy in
Speaker 3: there that you're gonna say, hey, what about Geno Smeth Travis,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, Stafford, Alan Brady, Murray, Burrow, Like, these
Speaker 3: are the top quarterbacks in the league more rapid speed
Speaker 3: twenty twenty Rogers, Brady Watson, Mahomes Wilson twenty nineteen Wilson, Rodgers,
Speaker 3: Mahomes Watson Wentz.
Speaker 1: Huh, he was.
Speaker 3: He was still kind of decent at that point. Not really,
Speaker 3: He's getting towards the twenty eighteen Mahomes, Wilson, big Ben
Speaker 3: Luck Brady twenty seventeen Brady Wilson, Breeze, big Ben, Stafford.
Speaker 3: Should I go further because it's the same thing over
Speaker 3: and over again. My point is players are not winding
Speaker 3: up there as accidents and blips on the radar. And
Speaker 3: if two is in the top five again next year,
Speaker 3: he'll be one of the He'll be in that category
Speaker 3: of Brady's and Breezes and Big Ben's. The guys that
Speaker 3: are in that consistently, Only those guys that are in
Speaker 3: their back to back years. It's only like future gold
Speaker 3: jacket guys. I'm not saying Two is that, but I'm
Speaker 3: just telling you that's the company he keeps in those
Speaker 3: big time throw categories, which is play making right. This
Speaker 3: was something I really wanted to dig into because I
Speaker 3: think it goes into the playmaking aspect.
Speaker 1: Of the position.
Speaker 3: Because what do we hear so frequently from two A
Speaker 3: tongue of my lower detractors, right, anybody could throw to
Speaker 3: those wide open receivers like, yeah, it's great to have that,
Speaker 3: and his process helps him do that. It's evident when
Speaker 3: you watch, but it's always nice when you can quantify
Speaker 3: here because we saw big time throws all year. Man,
Speaker 3: what a great throw that was from Tua. It's right
Speaker 3: there and the freaking the proof is.
Speaker 1: In the pudding baby.
Speaker 3: Now, do we need more creativity extending plays, Yes, but
Speaker 3: not the way you might think. I just think two
Speaker 3: it needs to find a little more comfort within the pocket.
Speaker 1: And that was his game in the past.
Speaker 3: That's why I loved it Alabante, because he was so
Speaker 3: good at navigating tight spaces. I just think that maybe
Speaker 3: maybe the injury, maybe the protection of your body, and
Speaker 3: it's important to have the quarterback. But at a certain
Speaker 3: point it felt like I can point to several reps
Speaker 3: where he.
Speaker 1: Just didn't make the.
Speaker 3: Correct adjustments in the pocket, the climbs to shoot the
Speaker 3: dark I mean that deep shot to Waddle on the
Speaker 3: first series against Dallas, which weirdly is the last time
Speaker 3: we practiced fully together, right, weird. But he slides around
Speaker 3: pressure and uncorks this dime fifty yards down the field.
Speaker 3: That's elite level football, man, And it was there four
Speaker 3: weeks ago, whatever five weeks ago that was. But it
Speaker 3: seemed to go away in the Chiefs and Bills game.
Speaker 3: Didn't it in the Titans game for that matter?
Speaker 1: Real quick?
Speaker 3: I must have blacked out during the postgame show when
Speaker 3: Tuas said this, here's a continuation from the Friday show.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that TUIs had this post game.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's deem sport. We didn't come together the
Speaker 4: way we wanted to offensively, it showed tonight, and you know,
Speaker 4: as the leader of that offense, I mean it really
Speaker 4: started with practices, So you know, that's that's how that's
Speaker 4: how we should have got things going, was in practice,
Speaker 4: with the communication, with knowing where we should be going
Speaker 4: in this loud environment, and then those miscues lead to
Speaker 4: delay of games. Those miscues lead to Okay, we can't
Speaker 4: change the protection, we don't have enough time, things like that.
Speaker 4: So it was just communication.
Speaker 1: Theirs time on the grass man.
Speaker 3: I think practice was the biggest issue those last two games,
Speaker 3: and our unwillingness to simplify things in general. Our falloff
Speaker 3: coincided with that man losing, Heam losing, waddle Hunt, missing reps,
Speaker 3: Liam in a boot Harrison taking so many of those
Speaker 3: reps early on. Tyreek limited for weeks before finally getting
Speaker 3: it right, only to have his freaking house catch on
Speaker 3: fire and missed two practices before the biggest game of
Speaker 3: the year. I think about that we only practiced once
Speaker 3: with the entire ensemble after the Dallas game, just one time.
Speaker 3: We didn't win the game the rest of the year.
Speaker 3: Wattal and Raheem hurt in that game, house fire, short
Speaker 3: week man, that's a quest to curse. I just feel
Speaker 3: like you've seen growth in every area of his game
Speaker 3: since he came into the NFL, and like I mentioned
Speaker 3: in the Divisional round recap, he has the skill set
Speaker 3: of a quarterback who would develop nicely as the year
Speaker 3: goes on. The years go along, not to mention as
Speaker 3: I developed more and more continuity in the offense. I
Speaker 3: think he time and time again displayed that he can
Speaker 3: put the football exactly where he wants I think he
Speaker 3: took massive strides in leadership and command of his team.
Speaker 3: I think he constantly got into positive looks both in
Speaker 3: the run game but also the check to the vertical
Speaker 3: shots with well timed dimes down the field. I do
Speaker 3: think pocket management needs to be and can be better.
Speaker 3: I mentioned it, a balance between cautious and aggressiveness needs
Speaker 3: to be struck. Recalibrated was the word I used. And
Speaker 3: now we take that cultivated mass max style and turn
Speaker 3: it into a more athletic quick twitch, which I already
Speaker 3: know Nick Hicks has.
Speaker 1: On his agenda for the offseason. So there you go.
Speaker 3: That's my two evaluation. Really good, can get a lot better.
Speaker 3: Number fourteen Mike White. I didn't give him a great
Speaker 3: cause he didn't play nough. He was five for six,
Speaker 3: seventy four yards and a touchdown and a pick. If
Speaker 3: not for that pick, my man bats one thousand with
Speaker 3: the one fifty eight point three passer rating. I got
Speaker 3: to know Mike this year and just one of my
Speaker 3: favorite people on the entire team. Fellow father of two,
Speaker 3: loves to golf, has baseball in his background, a shared
Speaker 3: love of South Park with your boy, and I think
Speaker 3: he's really, really good fit here as the backup quarterback.
Speaker 3: He knows the offense. I thought he led some of
Speaker 3: those run exclusive drives at the end of blowouts really
Speaker 3: well and showed a good command of the offense. He's
Speaker 3: a nice fit here. Scalar Thompson never saw him this year.
Speaker 3: What can we say is in the Camo practice jersey
Speaker 3: a lot right. Give him the top three practice performers
Speaker 3: of the week. He gave some great scout team looks there,
Speaker 3: and he's a developmental quarterback in your system. I want
Speaker 3: to go ahead and do this real quick, because the
Speaker 3: top forty quarterbacks I wrote this down last week, was
Speaker 3: going to put in the podcast, never got to it.
Speaker 3: I want to go ahead and rank the quarterbacks at
Speaker 3: the end of the year as I see fit. I
Speaker 3: know some of these guys were relegated to back up,
Speaker 3: some will be moved. Let's just go ahead and look
Speaker 3: at it in the sense of top forty quarterbacks, regardless
Speaker 3: of team situation, all that guys that played this year,
Speaker 3: how they performed, where they project going forward. These are
Speaker 3: my top four quarterbacks I'm taking to win a game tomorrow.
Speaker 3: And boy, this list shifted a lot throughout the season,
Speaker 3: which is another lesson, Right, it's gonna change. Jordan Love
Speaker 3: ten weeks ago was thought to be a bust. That's
Speaker 3: something that got to move on from. Now he's everyone
Speaker 3: thinks he's a top five quarterback. It just it changes
Speaker 3: like that number forty Bailey Zappy, number thirty nine, desim Ritter,
Speaker 3: number thirty eight, Kenny Pickett, Mac Jones, Mason Rudolph, Jake Browning,
Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett, Sam Howell, and then Jimmy Garoppolo is my
Speaker 3: thirty second ranked quarterback, my starting cliff. Right, then I
Speaker 3: go like this up to twenty five, Will Levis, Jamis Winston,
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco. I mean, where do you put Joe Flacco,
Speaker 3: Bryce Young twenty eight, Gardner Minshew, Daniel Jones My top
Speaker 3: twenty five, Ryan Tannehill, Ryan Dannahill yeh yeh. Derek Carr,
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, Baker Mayfield and Deshaun Watson and Gino Smith
Speaker 3: round out the top twenty. Into the teens, Anthony Richardson's
Speaker 3: by nineteenth, Justin Field's eighteenth, Aaron Rodgers seventeenth, or rather
Speaker 3: Jared Goff seventeenth. Aaron Rodgers is sixteenth. Yeah he's not.
Speaker 3: I don't trust him coming back off the Achilles and
Speaker 3: all the.
Speaker 1: Stuff that he does.
Speaker 3: Fifteenth, Trevor Lawrence fourteenth, Brock Purty thirteen, Jalen Hurts twelfth,
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert eleventh, Kirk Cousins tenth, Dak Prescott ninth, to
Speaker 3: a tongue by Lowa eighth, Kyler Murray seventh, Jordan Love sixth, c. J. Stroud,
Speaker 3: and then Joe Burrow, Matt Stafford, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen,
Speaker 3: and Patrick Mahomes round out my top forty. I'm sure
Speaker 3: you guys will agree with all that. Right, Let's go
Speaker 3: ahead and real quickly. Special teams.
Speaker 1: Dolphins didn't do very good in this category.
Speaker 3: Twenty two point system kicking game evaluation from Rick Gosling
Speaker 3: measure Miami out at thirty first in that list.
Speaker 1: This year.
Speaker 3: We also were thirtieth and dv away from Football Outsiders.
Speaker 3: But you know, you also had a lot of injuries
Speaker 3: that basically reduced your ability to have guys on special teams.
Speaker 3: I mean, Duke Riley, a key contributor on special teams,
Speaker 3: gets lifted off to play defense.
Speaker 1: What else was there?
Speaker 3: Elijah Campbell in that mold Durrehm Smith played a lot
Speaker 3: of snaps this year on offense kind of got less
Speaker 3: special teams work. It just it wasn't a good year
Speaker 3: for those guys, except for the kickers. Jason Sanders. I
Speaker 3: gave him a nine point one. He was He had
Speaker 3: four missed field goals this year, and two of those
Speaker 3: were blocks. He was twenty four for twenty eight eighty
Speaker 3: five percent, but was eighteenth in the NFL at that rate.
Speaker 1: Kickers are good now, man.
Speaker 3: The fifty seven yard was tied for This was tied
Speaker 3: for the seventh longest successful field goal this year. He
Speaker 3: did not miss any kicks under forty, just two misses
Speaker 3: between forty and forty nine, and then five for seven
Speaker 3: on fifty plus also fifty eight for fifty nine on
Speaker 3: Pat's a pretty great year for Jason.
Speaker 1: You love to see it.
Speaker 3: Jake Bailey was twenty sixth and punts twenty ninth and
Speaker 3: yards per punt, twenty eighth in return yards, twenty fourth
Speaker 3: and net yards and twenty fourth and punts inside the
Speaker 3: twenty yard line. I gave him a four point two.
Speaker 3: I didn't give Blake Ferguson a grade because I don't
Speaker 3: know anything about long snapping, but he got a personal
Speaker 3: foul that I didn't love. I always say this, but
Speaker 3: m my as well. Running back I don't know. I
Speaker 3: don't know, but he's got an extensions. He must be
Speaker 3: doing a good job, right. But I literally don't know
Speaker 3: anything about long snapping. I don't know. Maybe we do
Speaker 3: a podcast this summer where I'd get Blake or you know,
Speaker 3: Blake and Brax or something and talk about special teams
Speaker 3: so I can learn about it because I needed some
Speaker 3: blind spot for me.
Speaker 1: But there you go.
Speaker 3: That's a special teams and quarterback review. We're gonna go
Speaker 3: ahead and get out of here. I don't know what
Speaker 3: position is gonna be on Wednesday. I have to kind
Speaker 3: of coordinate with our video team because we might be
Speaker 3: having some top ten videos that come out and I
Speaker 3: want to make sure I have those accurately. But we'll
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