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Speaker 1: Here we go, it's hour two. It is a Monday.

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Speaker 1: Matt Hassel back to three time pro bowler. In five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Diana Russini stops by as well. It is great to

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Speaker 1: be back from VAK. J McK and I are rolling

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Speaker 1: and ready to go NFL games. Now they start filtering

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Speaker 1: in little video quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Where are we going to?

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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting to me. I was talking to

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Speaker 1: my buddy John Middlekoff, who's been on the show before.

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Speaker 1: Is that the guy lost in all this because we

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Speaker 1: know that Jaden daniels Is and Bonnix are working. Drake

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Speaker 1: May looks really, really solid. Caleb, we're gonna have our

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Speaker 1: eyes on, and JJ McCarthy, we're gonna have our eyes

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Speaker 1: on in all of this. Michael Pennix is quietly in

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Speaker 1: the Deep South in Atlanta and nobody's talking about him.

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Speaker 2: Where are you on Penix today? If you have a

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Speaker 2: guests Well, it's funny.

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Speaker 3: I'm lining up all my bets when I go to

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Speaker 3: Vegas the season long stuff. I have the Falcons in

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Speaker 3: be taking Pennix in fantasy. I think he's got a

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Speaker 3: lot of value in that offense.

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Speaker 4: Colin.

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Speaker 2: We only saw a few games of him last year.

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Speaker 3: Remember the Washington game that was nip and tuck until

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Speaker 3: the end and they ended up losing, But it was like,

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Speaker 3: I saw some things for Pennix. I think he's gonna

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Speaker 3: be good. I'm a buyer of the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, I think I've said this before. I

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Speaker 1: think he's a bigger, stronger toua left hander, beautiful ball

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Speaker 3: Uwa actually has a better coach though, in Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 3: You kind of just destroyed McDaniel for like ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was.

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Speaker 3: Out of bounds and on Warrenton. But nevertheless, if you

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Speaker 3: give Pennicks an offensive guy like McDaniel.

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Speaker 1: Oh, oh, look out, I'm not anti Michael McDaniels. I'm

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Speaker 2: He made the playoffs twice.

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Speaker 3: He took two out of the playoffs, but two got

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Speaker 3: They lost to the Chiefs in Arrowhead in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: I mean, geez, with.

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Speaker 3: A lot of shame in that one. In like negative

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Speaker 3: thirty degrees. Our guys are losing fingers in the stands.

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Speaker 3: So like, I thought you were extremely harsh on McDaniel.

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Speaker 3: Remember he's a Yale educated Colin.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so were a lot of our bad presidents.

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Speaker 2: I mean I did oooh, all right, Colin right, Colin wrong?

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Speaker 2: On Monday, here we go where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones once again has mangled a contract situation. I

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are starting to feel like the Raiders when Al

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Speaker 1: Jerry tells us he's a great businessman, but he keeps

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Speaker 1: getting taken to the cleaners by players and Micah, Now,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Trade him? Now, what are

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Speaker 1: the NFC as it strengthens as a conference. I don't

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was raw.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jimmy, I don't know if I believe him, but

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslam says the Shador Sanders draft pick, Hey, I

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Speaker 2: That was all on Andrew Berry.

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Speaker 1: But at least Jimmy Haslam is saying the right things publicly,

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Speaker 2: Pick where Colin was right. Well, I won't beat on

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Speaker 1: But Tyreek Hill said last week that one of the

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniels said, yeah, he isn't. We worked on that.

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Speaker 1: So there appears to be a gap this offseason between

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniels. And we've always said a lot more sizzle

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Speaker 2: Acquisition where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, according to Kevin Seaffert, respected reporter at ESPN,

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Fowler, another respected reporter, saying they're having to work

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Speaker 1: a lot on touch. Everything is a fastball. I don't

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Speaker 1: is that there were real concerns that JJ McCarthy had

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Speaker 1: been led by a great coach, a great defense, a

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Speaker 1: lead inferior talent, which is what happens in the NFL

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Speaker 1: if you're a lottery.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback, where Colin was raw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I may have to temper my Tennessee Titan predictions.

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Speaker 1: They just got rid of their first round receiver a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, Treylon Burks, apparently cam Ward. Last

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Speaker 1: couple of practices four picks. Cam Ward admits we're really

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Speaker 1: right now. Very mid is what he called his offense

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Speaker 1: between Tyler Lockett, Calvin Ridley, and Van Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: It's arguably the weakest receiving core in the NFL. I

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Speaker 1: I may have to scale back on the Titans where

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Speaker 1: Colin was right. Luka dantach Men's health in the best

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Speaker 1: Defense and being in great shape are all about wanting

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Speaker 1: to do you want to be a great defender? Do

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Speaker 1: you want to be in great shape? When did Luca

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Speaker 1: now the Lakers have new owners. This is why I've

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Speaker 1: said he's a much better version to Carmelo Anthony. I

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Speaker 1: don't worry about his game. I think he's gonna have

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Speaker 1: an unbelievable season. Does he have the want Lebron Kobe

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Speaker 1: this guy's amazing and increasingly gets in worse shape. Lakers

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Speaker 1: he's in unbelievable shape.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: The Indiana Fever are on a heater, all of it

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Speaker 1: without Caitlin Clark. Gotta be honest, she is a great player,

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Speaker 1: but Sophie Cunningham's been on fire hitting threes yesterday. They're

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Speaker 1: in a five game winning streak with no Caitlin Clark. So,

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Speaker 1: in fact, Kaylin this year, between injuries and struggling, has

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Speaker 1: best record in the league.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right. What do you know?

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Speaker 1: The Celtics minority owner is buying the Connecticut Sun for

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Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty five million dollars.

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Speaker 2: I had said this two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Yes, merch up one thousand percent TV ratings, attendance, this

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Speaker 1: inability to handle Caitlin Clark. Well, but is it a

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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: I don't care about the last twenty five years Merge

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Speaker 1: TV ratings attendance all up at least one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely a bye as a sports franchise. I felt

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Speaker 1: this way five years ago about the MLS. I feel

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Speaker 1: Well, I've been thinking about this interview last couple of days.

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Speaker 1: They told me I get Philip Rivers, who was so

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Speaker 1: football coach and has been for several years in Alabama's

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Speaker 1: Saint Michael Katholick. His son now is the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: a good one. Philip Rivers is now joining US Live today.

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Speaker 1: You know, uh, I gotta tell the audience.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I've never seen your son play.

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Speaker 1: But his name is Gunner Rivers, and I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: right now, that's a franchise quarterback name. I would draft

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Speaker 1: him sight unseen on that, just on the name. Now,

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Speaker 1: you were a trash talker and you had a different delivery.

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Speaker 1: Does he have your kind of sight arm delivery? Is

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Speaker 1: he a little trash talker?

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Speaker 2: Does he?

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Speaker 1: Does he have some of the Philip Rivers classic traits?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Colin, how's it going? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: No, he uh, he definitely. Uh, he definitely has some

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Speaker 5: He's a little more traditional throwing the football than than

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Speaker 5: I than I was, but a lot of people see

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Speaker 5: him throw and go, dang, you throw just like your dad.

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Speaker 4: But but it was the but the behind the.

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Speaker 5: And you know, it's funny because and everybody has their process.

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Speaker 4: Throw it eighteen times. I threw a hundred.

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Speaker 5: I threw one hundred passes in my first two games

443
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Speaker 5: in he stayed with Norm Chowt you know so but

444
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Speaker 5: then but you're right though, you get the NFL. And

445
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Speaker 5: I was in my first few, first week or two

446
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Speaker 5: of mini camp and uh and and we had some

447
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Speaker 5: play on I don't remember, and I didn't throw the ball.

448
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Speaker 5: I got to the check down, didn't throw the deep

449
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Speaker 5: cross or deep over and and Cam Cameron said why

450
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Speaker 5: didn't you throw it? And I said he's not open?

451
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Speaker 5: And he said he's wide open. And I was like, dang, okay,

452
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Speaker 5: Like that's there's the windows and the separation. So those things,

453
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Speaker 5: those things are all true that you say. Now you're

454
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Speaker 5: taking Matt Lioner to J. J.

455
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Speaker 4: McCarthy.

456
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Speaker 5: A guy that can come from those you know, historic

457
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Speaker 5: programs and they can still have unbelievable NFL career would

458
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Speaker 5: be great.

459
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Speaker 4: So it's not like you can't that way.

460
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Speaker 5: But is there something to be said for the you know,

461
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Speaker 5: the Texas Texas and the Wyomings and NC states of

462
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Speaker 5: the world.

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Speaker 4: Maybe heck yeah.

464
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Speaker 5: And you know, I definitely think there's something to game

465
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Speaker 5: experience and playing and playing. There's no similar there's nothing,

466
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Speaker 5: no substitute for playing.

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Speaker 4: You have to play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Antonio Gates makes the Hall of Fame. Speaking

469
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Speaker 1: of college never played a college football snap take me

470
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Speaker 1: to it may have been a practice. When was the

471
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Speaker 1: first moment You're at practice or somewhere with.

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Speaker 2: Him and you went, who's that guy? Like you knew?

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Speaker 1: How long did it take for you to identify whoa

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Speaker 1: People can't guard him. He's too big for linebacker, he's

475
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Speaker 1: too he's too strong for safeties.

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Speaker 2: How long did it take?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 5: Not long. I mean I was in my rookie year

479
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Speaker 5: and I had a front row seat my first two years,

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Speaker 5: you know, with Drew and and and and and Gates

481
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Speaker 5: that would have been his you know, he was a

482
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Speaker 5: rookie the year before me, and so I got to

483
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Speaker 5: see it for I got to see it from the

484
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Speaker 5: sideline his you know, those first two years, and he

485
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Speaker 5: was one of those guys that you know, we had

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Speaker 5: a gate trul we had a gate troul, we had

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Speaker 5: we had the we had the progression for the play

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Speaker 5: and based off the coverage, and then we said, okay,

489
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Speaker 5: and this one is Gates rule, and and it was

490
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Speaker 5: which meant, hey, if he's singled up, I don't care

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Speaker 5: if the leverage is good for him, He's gonna beat

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Speaker 5: them anyway.

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Speaker 4: And it was just that.

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Speaker 5: Over wrote that, that over you know, uh, the progression

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Speaker 5: was then done.

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Speaker 4: It was overridden by the Gates rule.

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Speaker 5: But he, uh, he had a unique ability to He

498
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Speaker 5: was fast and big, but he had a unique ability

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Speaker 5: to understand body position and getting hands off and attack

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Speaker 5: and attacking leverage and doing those things. And and I

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Speaker 5: you know, he was always considered this basketball guy, basketball guy,

502
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Speaker 5: basketball guy. But I think what he did was he

503
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Speaker 5: was very humble in saying, crap, I want to be

504
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Speaker 5: a football guy, and I gotta learn all this.

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Speaker 4: What is all these coverages? And they're bracketing me, and

506
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Speaker 4: where's the help?

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Speaker 5: And and once he learned that the it was, then

508
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Speaker 5: it was forget about it. And and that's why he

509
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Speaker 5: had that stretch, you know, seven or eight nine year stretch.

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Speaker 5: Obviously he played longer than that, and his whole career

511
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Speaker 5: was awesome, but he had that stretch where he was arguably,

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Speaker 5: you know, just uncoverable.

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Speaker 1: So finally your son, Gunner Rivers is and you could

514
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Speaker 1: look him up. He's gonna be one of those top

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks on all those recruiting things. So you're gonna start

516
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Speaker 1: hearing about him. Do you ever watch him and think, Man,

517
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Speaker 1: he does have a little better than Dad did at

518
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Speaker 1: his age? Is there is there anything you're just thinking? Man,

519
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Speaker 1: may he maybe have a little better fastball than Dad?

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Speaker 1: Or he may he may move a little better than dad.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that happens. That happens more than you'd think.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 2: I think too.

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Speaker 5: The game has just changed so much. You know, you

525
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Speaker 5: and I talked a little bit off air briefly. You know,

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Speaker 5: twenty five years ago it was just different. The game

527
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Speaker 5: is just different than what it is now. There wasn't

528
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Speaker 5: seven on sevens. And you know, we didn't grow up

529
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Speaker 5: playing flag football. I mean me and Gunner and you know, uh,

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Speaker 5: we we're playing flag football, uh, playing against teams from

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Speaker 5: Hawaii and Idaho and Arizona and.

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Speaker 4: All this when we're in California when he was ten

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Speaker 4: years old.

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Speaker 5: You know, so you're getting you're getting to practice that

535
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Speaker 5: anticipation and accurate accuracy as a ten year old, and

536
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Speaker 5: so he's just he's just thrown the football in a

537
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Speaker 5: competitive environment a whole lot more because of the day

538
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Speaker 5: and age of football that we're in.

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Speaker 4: And uh, you know, it's it's it's been fun.

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Speaker 5: It's fun to it's fun to coach him and his

541
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Speaker 5: teammates and be at this, be at the school and

542
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Speaker 5: and coach these guys up and you know, and and again,

543
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Speaker 5: remember the mission is, it's more than about the game.

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Speaker 5: I remind these guys. It's going to end for you

545
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Speaker 5: at some point. Most of our guys, it's gonna end

546
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Speaker 5: when they graduate high school. And hopefully, you know, Gunner

547
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Speaker 5: and he does have some teammates that can advance and

548
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Speaker 5: play college football. But I remind them that even if

549
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Speaker 5: you get to play for seventeen years, it does stop,

550
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Speaker 5: and the and the.

551
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Speaker 4: Clock will end.

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Speaker 5: So it's got to be more than just the ex'es

553
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Speaker 5: and o's. You got to learn those those life lessons

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Speaker 5: that you get from this great sport. And uh, I'm

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Speaker 5: hopeful that I can pass some of that down to

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Speaker 5: these guys and help them be better men for having

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Speaker 5: been in the program.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're a class guy. One of my favorite players

559
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Speaker 1: seventeen years. I was looking at some of your stats.

560
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Speaker 1: Six most four hundred and twenty one career passing touchdowns,

561
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Speaker 1: the sixth most in NFL history. Two hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: consecutive starts in the regular season. That is a lot

563
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Speaker 1: of starts.

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Speaker 2: Was there ever?

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Speaker 1: Did you ever have a game day when you just

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Speaker 1: felt like crud and started?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Did you ever have? I mean, you obviously were not

569
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Speaker 1: in perfect condition. Did you ever not know an hour

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Speaker 1: before a game if you were going to start?

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Speaker 5: No, no, I know, but yes, many games where it

572
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Speaker 5: felt like crud would be an understatement. But thankfully, I

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Speaker 5: mean again, this isn't me saying, wow, look how tough

574
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Speaker 5: I was.

575
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Speaker 4: I really was. I had a lot of.

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Speaker 5: I was blessed with health and the ability to go

577
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Speaker 5: out there every Sunday. I'll just leave it at that.

578
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Speaker 5: But there were certain sundays that weren't real fun. Physically,

579
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Speaker 5: worked real fun during the week to get there. But again,

580
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Speaker 5: a lot of great guys up front fight like crazy

581
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Speaker 5: to keep me clean, and then you just have some

582
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Speaker 5: injuries you have and you deal with them, and you

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Speaker 5: there was the one, the one record that was one

584
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Speaker 5: of my favorite growing up. You know, I mentioned the

585
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Speaker 5: fifty one starts in the row a n Cy State,

586
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Speaker 5: which at a time, at that time was a record.

587
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Speaker 5: I think it's been broken, and now these guys playing

588
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Speaker 5: fourteen fifteen games a year. But one of my favorite

589
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Speaker 5: records was Brett Farres Start Street and I remember watching

590
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Speaker 5: that going, man, he's played how many year, rold Man,

591
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Speaker 5: he's going to get to three hundred, And I remember

592
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Speaker 5: just saying again, this is just as a competitor, I'm

593
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Speaker 5: going I'm going to chase.

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Speaker 4: Brett Far's record. I'm gonna get there.

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Speaker 5: And I didn't play those first two years, as I

596
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Speaker 5: said behind Drew, and I realized ultimately I couldn't get there,

597
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Speaker 5: but by golly, I was going to find a way.

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Speaker 5: He'd be second, you know, and suit up and be

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Speaker 5: out there if I could every week for our team.

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Speaker 4: And I do think there's a you know.

601
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Speaker 5: The best ability, as Chuck Amato told us, the best

602
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Speaker 5: abilities dependability, and that was one thing I was gonna

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Speaker 5: be I was gonna be out there.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna be outre every week. I was gonna

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Speaker 4: be outre.

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Speaker 5: Every week and give him all and shoot, I know

607
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 5: we fell short plenty of times, but they knew that

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Speaker 5: you counted seventeen.

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Speaker 4: Get them everything they had for those turning forty in

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Speaker 4: a row.

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Speaker 1: Well, my favorite interview in a long time Philip Absolute

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Speaker 1: pleasure Saint Michael Catholic High School in Alabama. He took

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Speaker 1: over a program that didn't really exist. They just won

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Speaker 1: their first playoff game last year. Congratulations to you and

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Speaker 1: your program and they are lucky to have you as

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Speaker 1: a coach.

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Speaker 4: Thanks man, Thanks Golling enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: Philip rivers, great stories. Just a impressive guy like that.

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Speaker 1: There's a guy like there's a guy that. He had

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Speaker 1: some offensive lines that were a bit dubious. He took

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Speaker 1: a few hits in his day and was always there.

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Speaker 1: Two hundred and forty consecutive starts in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: We do it on Thursdays. J Mac, you used to

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Speaker 1: be in a business kind of a blogg a sphere

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Speaker 1: the McIntyre site because you can tell he's like he

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Speaker 1: Like there's like serious stories here.

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Speaker 2: It's sourced And I want to start.

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Speaker 1: My show talking about that because it was one of

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Speaker 1: A sphere can be just nonsense and whimsical, and yours wasn't.

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Speaker 1: You were breaking stories. And that's kind of a theme

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Speaker 1: today for quarterback. So I saw this headline from Archie

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Speaker 1: man and he says arch will not turn pro next season.

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Speaker 1: He'll be at Texas for the next to two years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you have to say.

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Speaker 1: If he beats Ohio State in Columbus, wins the Heisman

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Speaker 1: would be really bad business to stay in college. And

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Speaker 1: I know almost every Manning pretty well. They're good at business,

664
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Speaker 1: and they say the right thing when they have to

665
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: college sports for truly gifted athletes, like a Cooper Flag.

666
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: It's like that first really cool apartment you live in

667
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: when you make a little money and you're like, I'm

668
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: never leaving this place, and then eventually you get a

669
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Speaker 1: real job with a VP and the title and you

670
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: don't want to share walls or the pool, and you

671
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: forget about it really quickly. Arch Manning made six point

672
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: five million last year at Texas nil. Reportedly, cam Ward

673
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: made forty eight point seven guaranteed number one pick? Urge

674
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: can I can I interest you in a.

675
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: Forty two million dollar loan? Hook?

676
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: What?

677
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

678
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: This is the classic Mannings saying the right thing and

679
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: a lot of times in society. I mean, I think

680
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: the term is true, but I get tired of it.

681
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: Woke. Well, you're just.

682
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: Not being honest, you know, when you're really important sometimes jd.

683
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: Vance should not talk about ever being a president. Keep

684
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: it to yourself, Lebron Mannings, Mahomes, Brady. I've seen Mahomes

685
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: step to the microphone and just say the right thing,

686
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: not necessarily the most honest, authentic thing. That's what happens.

687
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: And the Manning family is American Football royalty. So this

688
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: is exactly what you say. We Cooper Flag said it. Oh,

689
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: Duke and Denny talked to Nike, and then you're the

690
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: number one pick and here's fifty six large.

691
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: I love Duke so much.

692
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: I'll go visit when they play Caroline if I have time.

693
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: Arch Manning, if he's as good as I think he is,

694
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: he's got to go pro. I know Cooper, I know Eli,

695
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: I know Peyton, I know Archie, and I don't know Arch.

696
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: But Sark talking about Arch sounds a lot like Cooper

697
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: and Eli and Peyton Manning.

698
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 8: His work ethic is incredible, whether it's you know, studying tape,

699
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 8: studying film, studying the playbook, working at his craft, you know,

700
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 8: in the weight room like that that that is, whether

701
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 8: it's innate in him or uh it was you know,

702
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 8: handed down from his uncles whatever, whatever it was, his

703
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 8: work ethic is really pretty incredible. And and that lends

704
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 8: itself to the teammate that he is too, And.

705
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: That's an interesting way to describe him. Jump into my

706
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: next segment. Now, I will tell you ninety percent of

707
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: you will disagree with this take. And I've been doing

708
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: this for twenty five years. I believe in it strongly

709
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: and always have. So did you notice when Sark talked

710
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: about Arch and oh, by the way, Eli Manning could be,

711
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, funny on Saturday Night Live. But if you

712
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: described Peyton Manning you would say intense. Bill Pollion once

713
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: said he was a teeth clencher. If you're describing Tiger Woods,

714
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: you'd be like obsessed, intimidating, Michael Jordan, Kobe, Bryant Brady.

715
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: It's not a coincidence that the greatest athletes of my

716
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: life are borderline crazy, obsessed, serious people. And I am

717
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: hoping when Shadur Sanders plays tomorrow night, I can't wait

718
00:33:59,760 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 1: to walk.

719
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for them.

720
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like the speeding tickets, but they

721
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: lead me to my topic today. It is totally unfair

722
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: that at twenty three years old, as an NFL quarterback,

723
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: you are held to a totally different standard, not only

724
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: from every twenty three year old you know, but from

725
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: every twenty three year old professional athlete. You have to

726
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: be twenty three going on forty three, not even thirty three,

727
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: cause some of you are still doing shooters at the

728
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, Captain Van Dangoes on a Friday night, right like,

729
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: I know where you're out.

730
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: You're doing stuff that's really not inappropriate.

731
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Speaker 1: You hope your boss doesn't walk in right right at

732
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: thirty three, at forty three, hopeful that you have kids,

733
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Speaker 1: you're a grown up, you're a vice president. You're not

734
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: doing it quarterback in the NFL. It's almost unfair. Jalen

735
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: Hurts is twenty seven, he acts forty seven. I've never

736
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Speaker 1: seen a quarterback that good at the PODIU him ever,

737
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: he is the best quarterback I've ever seen at the podium.

738
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Speaker 1: He surpasses the second best I've ever seen, Dak Prescott.

739
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Speaker 2: No jokes.

740
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: They're like accountants should bring a briefcase. And this is

741
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: something that's always bothered me about Shaduer.

742
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 2: And Miles.

743
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: Garrett was asked to describe his personality here it is.

744
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it's funny, optimistic, playhearted. Who's funny?

745
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston was funny, Drew Lock was lighthearted. Cam Newton

746
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: is the best college football player I have ever seen.

747
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: He was the size of a defensive end, but he

748
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: was playful. Drew Lock remember that piece of video. That's

749
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: all I needed to see. I know all your frat bros,

750
00:35:59,480 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: they loved it.

751
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: I get it. The cigarette bros absolutely love that. I

752
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 2: get it.

753
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: It's not what I want. Dak Prescott his rookie year.

754
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: It may have been preseason or it was early in

755
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: the season, did something and you guys made fun of it.

756
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: But there was a piece of garbage on the field

757
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: behind the cowboy bench. He's in the middle of a game,

758
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: and he walked by it and turned around, grabbed it

759
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: and put it in the garbage. And I'm like, oh,

760
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: that's grown up. He understands. It's like when you go

761
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: to a funeral, don't smile and don't laugh. You have

762
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: to be on. Dak Prescott understands. I'm the cowboy quarterback.

763
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: I am always on. Years ago in the Patriots Building,

764
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: they did a little test. This is true story. They

765
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: would randomly put stuff on the floor to see if

766
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: people picked it up when they interviewed them. To this day,

767
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: when I walked down the halls of Fox, just in

768
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: case my bosses are watching, I always stop and pick up.

769
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Speaker 2: A piece of garbage. It matters, and it's unfair.

770
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Speaker 1: I don't want my quarterbacks to be, as Miles Garrett said,

771
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: fun lighthearted. I'm not interested in lighthearted at all. Jameis

772
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: Winston the best thing he's ever done. Worked for Fox.

773
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: It was funny. He also threw thirty picks a year.

774
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: It's not fair, but the Harbaughs, Nick Saban Sean Payton

775
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: are almost offensively intense. I mean there are times Nick

776
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: Saban's so intense it's intimidating. And yet Nick Saban is

777
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: five foot six. Did you know that he plays really big?

778
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, I'm much taller than he is. He feels

779
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: bigger than I do. I don't want my quarterbacks to

780
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: be fun, lighthearted.

781
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: In the draft room.

782
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: But leggendary it was also fun in that car doing

783
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 1: one to four in a forty five.

784
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but it matters. I like the traits of

785
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders. I like his size. I think he's more

786
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: mobile than people say.

787
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: I think he throws a beautiful football off platform er

788
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: on it. I think he's a much better pro prospect

789
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: than Dylan Gabriel. Obviously many of you disagree. But one

790
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: of the things that's always bothered me, he's kind of silly.

791
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't want silly. I'm not interested in silly. There's

792
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: so many things pedigree, size, accuracy, I like about him,

793
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: but it's just one of those things. It is just

794
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: there was am I'll give you another example. I don't

795
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: love brock Purdy, but there was a moment with brock Purdy.

796
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: He was at a concert about a year ago with

797
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: George Kittle. George Kittle is shot gun and beers and oh,

798
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: by the way, brock Purdy, just like a funeral, don't laugh,

799
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: you're always on. Brock Purdy carried the beers in. He

800
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't bite. He wouldn't bite. He didn't want that meme nothing.

801
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: Let the crazy tied end to it. I'm not biting.

802
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 2: He is going, yeah, George, you keep doing it. He

803
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 2: wouldn't do it. He didn't want that anywhere.

804
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: Because if you do that and people see it, and

805
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: you go on a four game losing streak, the GM

806
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: sees it. And by the way, I will get three

807
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: to four texts today from GMS and they'll be like,

808
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. And every time I do that stuff

809
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: I get texts. Is that most twenty three year olds

810
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: are listening saying that's ridiculous. It is in ninety eight

811
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: percent of the work environments in the country. But one

812
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: of the things that impressed me about Dak and Jalen Hurts.

813
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: It's not how they throw from the pocket. I've said

814
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: this about Tua. Tua's grown up Tyreek Hill isn't. Hurts

815
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: is unbelievable. When people say Lamar Jackson he gets tight

816
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Yeah, damn righty does because he cares

817
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: so much. Lamar Jackson gets furious at Lamar Jackson. It's

818
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: one of my favorite traits. And I do think he

819
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: gets tight in the playoffs, and I do think Peyton

820
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: Manning did for years. If the biggest fault is the

821
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: dude is really intense. Sign me up for that, sign

822
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: me up for Lamar Jackson and early Peyton Manning. But

823
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: there's that Drew Locke video keeping a real man. I

824
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: got the vibes and y'all loved it, and I couldn't

825
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: stand it. And it was only ten seconds, and I'm like, dude,

826
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: do that at home. You're on you're smiling at a funeral.

827
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: You're trying to be the face of a franchise.

828
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

829
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like my GM doing it. I wouldn't like

830
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: my head coach doing it. Remember that Chaduur Flacco thing.

831
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: There was a little piece of video with Shadur and

832
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: Flacco here in camp. And it's not the end of

833
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: the world. Nobody's saying it is. As I always say,

834
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: everything's something, nothing's everything. But remember that little piece of video.

835
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Speaker 1: Do we have the sound up on that when Flacco

836
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: and Chaduur and Schadeur's asking him about dancing?

837
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: Do we have that you ever did?

838
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: That?

839
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: Was that?

840
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: Definitely not?

841
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 5: I don't love if I've ever heard a public dance

842
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 5: movie in my life.

843
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco's been to a Super Bowl and won a

844
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and if I recall he was the MVP

845
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl, it matters at least to me.

846
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: All Right, the hate mail will be flying in and keep.

847
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: It coming because it is a thing. It really is

848
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: a thing, and it just is one of those things.

849
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: I think about it all the time, and there are

850
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: different times in life. By the way, I've joked about

851
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: this for years. Whenever I'm hiring a young person like

852
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty, I don't want somebody that loves golf.

853
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: Now by the time you get gray hair and you're old,

854
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: I don't care old guys. I'm really into golf. The

855
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: last three years, the gray er my hair gets. But

856
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm out of that space now. But when you're twenty

857
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: and thirty and you're not making much and I need

858
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: you to work fifty five to sixty hours a week,

859
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm not working that much anymore. I got a bigger

860
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: staff in it. But when I used to be in

861
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: this business, I was looking for young people. I didn't

862
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: mind what your hobbies were. I didn't want golfers. I

863
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: didn't want golfers because golf has an addictive quality. I'm

864
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: going through that now. Over the last three years once

865
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: the number six. That's different than two to three on

866
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: the name on the number. And so I will say this,

867
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: The brock Pretty thing really struck me. I was like,

868
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: you can say what you and I've never been a

869
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: huge brock Pretty guy. But one of the things Sam

870
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: Darnold said about him, like one of the reasons that

871
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan was so impressed with him is his maturity.

872
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: They were like, he's just not your typical twenty four

873
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: year old and maybe that's unfair, but it's really impressive.

874
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: Part of what NFL teams do. They have these conversations,

875
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: Can we hand the keys of our franchise to this

876
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: young guy? That is a conversation networks have that I've

877
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: worked at. Can we give this person their own show?

878
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: It's his show, it's his staff. We can't babysit him.

879
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: We're not there every day. Can you give the keys

880
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: to the franchise? And you watch brock perty and like

881
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: he knew, come on, George a couple more. He wouldn't bite.

882
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: He would not bite j Mark.

883
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: When you get.

884
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: Your show someday that Marquis You're gonna have to settle

885
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: down because you are a wild child on the beach

886
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: of a Manhattan beach.

887
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 3: From what I hear, so basically this week you are

888
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 3: against backwards visors and you are against shotgutting beers on

889
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: stage at a concert. Okay, you're basically captain on fund.

890
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: You know you've heard of the fun uncle, the funkal.

891
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: You're like the opposite of that. You are unfun Colin.

892
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, golf really no, So what about basketball?

893
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: You're good with me and the men's leagues. I've got

894
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: a big playoff game to get your cardio in. Get

895
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: your cardio in.

896
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, I understand that I always had a thing

897
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: with golf. When your hair gets gray, go for it

898
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: before that. I don't want to hear your golf that

899
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: they did plan on seven courses.

900
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 2: That's just me. Everybody's got a different vine.