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Speaker 1: Hey, Caitlyn.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't even look at your face

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Speaker 2: without cracking up. I'm so excited to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: I've seen you in passing. You've been harassing me about

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Speaker 2: doing a podcast. I've been harassing you, but more people.

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Speaker 2: The people have been asking for this.

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Speaker 3: The people have been harassing the both of us for

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Speaker 3: a pod. And we apologize everybody out there, but give

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Speaker 3: us a break.

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Speaker 1: We've been a little bit busy.

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Speaker 3: Someone has been moving to Brooklyn out of the city,

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Speaker 3: and I'm very upset about it, actually, to be quite

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Speaker 3: honest with you, because now we're not three blocks apart,

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Speaker 3: so her to come over here now she's going to

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Speaker 1: And I've been a little busy doing television and coaching.

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Speaker 3: So but but here we are on a Monday after

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Speaker 3: the US Open. I am well and truly hungover, and

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Speaker 3: for a good reason, and the.

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Speaker 1: Fact that was a bear over three weeks of.

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Speaker 3: Television with the hours we were doing, we got caught

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Speaker 3: in a flood and two am, two thirty am finishes

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Speaker 3: back at the courts in the morning. Coaching and of

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Speaker 3: course culminated for me yesterday and being a part of

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Speaker 3: watching my one of my best friends and my old

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Speaker 3: doubles partner win another Grand Slam title in Samsos.

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Speaker 4: That is an incredible, incredible, incredible three weeks.

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Speaker 1: I mean I remember having dinner with you both maybe two.

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Speaker 4: And a half three weeks ago, and I was thinking

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Speaker 4: to myself, it has been a decade since Sam won

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Speaker 4: her singles Grand Slam here and to watch, and sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Since her first ever Grand Slam title at the US

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Speaker 3: Open in doubles with Lisa Raymonds.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely incredible, Yeah, absolutely incredible, culminating yesterday in a three

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Speaker 1: Romans had an incredible tournament.

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Speaker 4: I was so so so, I mean, I you know,

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Speaker 4: I had tears in my eyes watching it, and I

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Speaker 4: remember just texting you the minute by minute and you

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Speaker 4: didn't respond one time, which you know, fair enough.

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Speaker 3: Which is a good thing because that would mean I

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Speaker 3: you know, for at least a couple of hours.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, yeah, it was, it was. I did have

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Speaker 3: I was just so pleasantly overwhelmingly pleased for someone like

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Speaker 3: Sam and Jean Shoa, who hasn't been home all year

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Speaker 3: typical sort of random stuff from the Chinese Tennis Association.

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Speaker 3: But so she hasn't been home all year. Sam hasn't

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Speaker 3: her now fourteen month old daughter on FaceTime every single

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Speaker 3: day and night for those four months, to the point

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Speaker 3: that Eve, her daughter thinks that Mama is the phone.

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Speaker 3: So whenever she sees the phone, she says, says mama.

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Speaker 3: So the good thing about all that talking to her

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Speaker 4: Nina nine, you're Pregraminarily I've learned with my own son.

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Speaker 1: You just got to get in there and get in

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Speaker 4: That's right, is the perfect role for you, because you're

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Speaker 1: She did wake up one morning and said Nana. No,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's you. She said, Banana, She said nana.

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Speaker 3: And so my life was complete when Ebe woke up

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Speaker 3: and said nine and now there you go, and now

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Speaker 3: Sam wins.

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Speaker 1: The years open. So I'm just so pleased for us. Caitlin,

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Speaker 3: Couple of years, with so many injuries and the pandemic

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Speaker 1: Last year. She was you know, she's been contemplating.

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Speaker 3: Retiring for a while, and now this has given her

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Speaker 1: She went Cincinnati was Jean Shue. They weren't even supposed

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Speaker 3: Joan Hue thought Sam was already playing with somebody else

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Speaker 3: Please like, call Nina and just ask her please. So

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Speaker 3: thank you Nina so Janovitch, who actually gracefully let Jean

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Speaker 1: So that's insane. And is this your first grand Sam

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Speaker 1: more to come, so we'll add that to your total.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's fair.

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Speaker 4: You got six between six plus one coach six plus

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Speaker 1: The USTA is a really nice thing.

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Speaker 3: Actually, they give the winning coaches of the team's a

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Speaker 4: Well, I'd like to hear about your evening was very

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Speaker 3: We had a little celebration in the courts of the

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Speaker 3: A Chinese restaurant in Queens Sure flushing, as you do

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Speaker 3: presume Flushings, Yeah, flushing. I don't know where, what the

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Speaker 4: I can speak from some authority living in China that

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Speaker 3: Dylan said when he came over, when he saw Sam,

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Speaker 1: Awesome, what a great day for Australia. And he's like,

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Speaker 3: And then Dylan won and Dylan said, yeah, not bad

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Speaker 1: It was just, you know, fun, very a bar you

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Speaker 3: So we met up there and we had a few

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Speaker 3: And you know, the great thing is Sam said, you know,

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Speaker 1: She's like, when I won in twenty eleven, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: Get to do all of that because they're getting pulled

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Speaker 3: So you can imagine from that moment you hours and

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Speaker 4: And also if you look at to this morning with

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Speaker 1: But in fact you are just to get the fact

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Speaker 4: I am very very happy and obviously through to see

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Speaker 3: I didn't actually think about that at all until you

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Speaker 3: said it, so thank you. Anyway, enough about me and

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Speaker 3: enough about Sam like so much discuss, Let's get into

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Speaker 4: For my part, Racket did twelve things we launched a

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Speaker 4: TV show, we did a live event, we did four activations,

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Speaker 4: like Daniel Medvedev did when he did the dead.

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Speaker 1: Fish flop on the court. Just, oh my god, we

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Speaker 1: are done. Should we start there? Should we start with

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Speaker 4: Should we start with women's I don't start with the

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Speaker 1: Where do you want to say? So many things to

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Speaker 4: Up when I first got here so that we could

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Speaker 1: That was her goal.

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Speaker 3: This is okay, nuts, So when you think about what

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Speaker 1: I mean that's just a fist straight out of fact.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Blinda was probably the first time that she

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Zachary, you know great players, but you know

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Speaker 1: Yeap, just boom, boom boom. I mean Layla's run through

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Speaker 4: I do have to say, though, and tell me you

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Speaker 4: hard not to get excited about her. Her run reminded

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Speaker 4: I don't know that this girl doesn't lose two and

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Speaker 1: On any other day.

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Speaker 4: And it's not to take a single thing away from

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Speaker 4: I looked at that final and said, Oh, Emma's gonna

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Speaker 1: Oh, and we've got a guest coming into the studio. Sam,

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Speaker 1: Come on up. We just had an we've just had

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Speaker 3: Walk into the apartment and we can just add her

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that's how consent works. Oh really, well,

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Speaker 3: That's what's happening, because that's what we're doing. She's brought

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Speaker 4: Oh great, I'm going to be going to the King's County,

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Speaker 1: The air conditioning on for you, Sam, because I know

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Speaker 4: Okay, So while we're wait for Sam, what do you

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Speaker 1: I don't mean it in a bad Way. It's great,

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Speaker 4: But I also thought, oh well, this is a real

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Speaker 1: Cheer because they've been so for both of these young players.

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Speaker 3: I was very interested in that when they walked on

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the crowd likes a long match. But I also

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Speaker 1: I think it's Canadian as well.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of although you know, the border hasn't

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You should know. I should know.

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Speaker 4: Andrea Pekovich, we were having a drink on her birthday

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Speaker 3: Well, I actually said, if you know you had been

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Speaker 3: the crowd. Yes, And I said that influenced every single

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and a lot of people had a lot of

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Speaker 1: Just so you know.

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Speaker 1: It's not a medical time out.

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Speaker 4: It's not a player's option to say, hey, I need

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Speaker 4: So I just want to clear that up in case

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Speaker 1: Didn't get into it because it didn't end up being

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Speaker 3: Time, Sam is putting your finger on because that is

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Speaker 4: It does bring up something I want to address, which

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Speaker 4: But instead of that being a theme, the toilet get

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Speaker 4: And you know, is that one scam or another? I

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Speaker 3: you know, if you walk quickly or run off the

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Speaker 3: court and run back on. And so him taking his

444
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,960
Speaker 3: bag going to the locker room, I mean, that's taking

445
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,000
Speaker 3: eight nine minutes.

446
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,000
Speaker 1: Is just bullshit. But do you think that it is?

447
00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,880
Speaker 1: I mean, is he taking his phone? Is he doing

448
00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,639
Speaker 1: all that? I don't know. We don't have evidence of that,

449
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,920
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to accuse him that, but but I.

450
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Speaker 3: Think the broader picture is Tennis needs to do a

451
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Speaker 3: better job, particularly for television. I can tell you my

452
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:26,520
Speaker 3: producer in my years like saying very unkind things because

453
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 3: he's like, what are we going to? What do we

454
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Speaker 3: do now for eight minutes of live television while you're like,

455
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,320
Speaker 3: off in a bathroom, we don't and you know, and

456
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,119
Speaker 3: then Patrick Moore Tiger, who says, well, he's going in

457
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,760
Speaker 3: there basically find himself or what.

458
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Speaker 1: I'm like, No, that's not the rule. The rule is you.

459
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 3: Got to go to the toilet or you've got to

460
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 3: change your clothes. You don't go in there and have

461
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Speaker 3: a meditation moment.

462
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:58,880
Speaker 1: But what if he's Sam just sugar head, because that's

463
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 1: just know that he's not pooping. There's just no chance. Listen,

464
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,520
Speaker 1: I just moved to Brooklyn. We have two bathrooms now

465
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 1: because everyone pooped.

466
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 4: And you're seeing who's like, oh my god, I'm pooping constantly.

467
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 1: Well, he lefted Andrea's match.

468
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 4: The other day we were watching with Mary Carillo and

469
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Speaker 4: I said, Peter, what do you think about this?

470
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,399
Speaker 1: How's it? You know, isn't so fun to shoot this

471
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 1: match up close, and he said, I have to poop.

472
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Speaker 4: Every time I've taken him to her match, he has

473
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Speaker 4: to poop and it takes thirty minutes.

474
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Speaker 1: Anyway, my point is it could happen. I can question

475
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 1: bold suggestion. Should we fan should we film in the toilets?

476
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Speaker 4: No?

477
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,880
Speaker 1: Should we ban.

478
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 4: Bathroom breaks but allow on coaching so then people don't

479
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Speaker 4: have to go to the bathroom to find themselves, or

480
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 4: maybe limit the amount of time so you just got

481
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Speaker 4: to get it done really quack quick. But if you're

482
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Speaker 4: trying to find yourself, maybe you just have a coach,

483
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 4: which is way better than for TV and such a

484
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 4: great well for people who are watching tennis and wanting

485
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Speaker 4: to understand more about what they're watching.

486
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 3: Television would love to interview the play that's still sitting

487
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 3: out there for eight minutes.

488
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Speaker 1: They would they just they would love that.

489
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Speaker 3: They've said that to be great, if we could interview

490
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 3: the player now they're sitting out there by yourselves for

491
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Speaker 3: eight minutes. You know, if this were Patrick Horitaglus Ultimontennaw,

492
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Speaker 3: they could What do you think of that?

493
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Speaker 5: I mean, that's ridiculous because then that that person's being disadvantaged.

494
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: Twice, okay, from the nose player and make them stop

495
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Speaker 1: and take away their concentration. All right, so from the nosebleeds.

496
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Speaker 1: But I understand why she's saying that.

497
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Speaker 3: Or you you have if you want to leave the court,

498
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Speaker 3: you have to be interviewed on the way back.

499
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Speaker 1: But that doesn't take it, so it stops even longer.

500
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Speaker 4: Well, no, so then it goes from okay, what if

501
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 4: the person who doesn't go to the bathroom gets to

502
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Speaker 4: visit with their coach.

503
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think one thing that they could help

504
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Speaker 3: is if they allow coaches to be able to their

505
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Speaker 3: player to walk over their coach or their coach come

506
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Speaker 3: on to the court and just have a chat with

507
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Speaker 3: them during that time. And some may use it some way,

508
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 3: not like some players. And there's been times where I've

509
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Speaker 3: said no to coaching on the court. There's times where

510
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Speaker 3: I want to go on the court. There's times my

511
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Speaker 3: player wants me out there. Sometimes my player doesn't.

512
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Speaker 1: Want me out there. But then you're leaving it up

513
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Speaker 1: to the player.

514
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Speaker 3: Or the coach decide if they want to be able

515
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: to do it. So it might help that they that

516
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 3: they do that, But the blanket rule needs to change

517
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 3: and they need to have a specific amount of time

518
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Speaker 3: depending on what court you're on and how far it

519
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 3: is to the bat, how far it is from the bathroom,

520
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Speaker 3: And they can do that quite easily with a player saying.

521
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Speaker 1: What is it?

522
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Speaker 3: What is a specific time on this particular court that

523
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 3: is reasonable?

524
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Speaker 1: And you know there is what would you say this, Sam.

525
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Speaker 3: Maybe a couple of outside courts that you need maybe

526
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Speaker 3: an extra minute or two to get to a bathroom,

527
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 3: whereas at Arthur Ash it should be three minutes maximum

528
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 3: for sure.

529
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Speaker 5: Outside courts it does take longer because there's no toilets

530
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Speaker 5: always nearby for sure.

531
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Speaker 3: So you could do that, though the a top could say, okay,

532
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 3: if you're on court X to why you have you

533
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 3: can have one four.

534
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: Minute break, but that's maximum.

535
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 3: And if you're not back, and here's the bottom line,

536
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 3: if you are not back in this accredited time, you

537
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: will be deducted to a point for every single minute

538
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 3: you're late.

539
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, that's in every mindy.

540
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 3: And you boom and you know, so these players walking

541
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 3: to the bathroom, first of all, Yeah, that's what pisses

542
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 3: me off.

543
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: I walking off, walking back on I'm like one.

544
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 3: Of the things about Leila Fernandez. That impressed me so much.

545
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: When she played Cerber, she lost the one of the sets,

546
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 3: a second set, and she ran off the court and

547
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: ran back onto the court with her full kid So

548
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 3: she changed out of her entire gear in two minutes.

549
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: But she ran off and ran back on, and I'm like,

550
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: that's how you change.

551
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 4: Well. It also sends a cool message to your opponent,

552
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 4: like I'm still in this, Like I don't think for

553
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 4: one second, I'm.

554
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: Like, you know, going away.

555
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's like when you're jumping around on

556
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 4: the baseline after you know the point, like a long point.

557
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like you send the bass.

558
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 4: Okay, so we've covered bathroom gate, we've covered the women's

559
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Speaker 4: dra Do you just going back really quick to the women?

560
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 4: Do you feel like Maria Sachari and Arena Sabalanka house favorites?

561
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Speaker 1: That's just just brew.

562
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that hurts I think I don't know who

563
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 3: it hurts more, maybe like Sabolenka, because you know, she

564
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 3: went through that period of ever getting past the quarters

565
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 3: and now she's kind of stuck in the sam.

566
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: I feel like this was kind of her tournament.

567
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 4: I adore her and the way she plays, for sure,

568
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 4: balls out tennis too, and again the crowd factor was

569
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 4: definitely affected. I don't think she loses that match under

570
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 4: almost any other probably not anywhere else, but on Arthur

571
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 4: Pro a heavily prosen crowd, and I felt for her.

572
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 4: They were cheering for double faults, which, to be just,

573
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Speaker 4: it's absolutely abhorrent the.

574
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Speaker 1: Idea that you would ever cheer for somebody's misfortune.

575
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 4: Always always always apploied and good play, that's you know,

576
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 4: just and I mean that Junior's to the recreational too.

577
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: Pros.

578
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 4: Just never find yourself applauding when something goes wrong for

579
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 4: a player.

580
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: It's funny, so many other options to cheer.

581
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 3: Because Sam is sitting here reminded me yesterday there was

582
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 3: a couple of double faults where the opponents double folded

583
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: and there was not a peep out of it.

584
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, not a peep. That was not the case

585
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: down the other end. I remember, and I'm going to

586
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: put that out there.

587
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 3: And you know, you have any I don't know if

588
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 3: any of the any you know, the team or whatever,

589
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 3: but if you bring people along, because sometimes it's the

590
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: people behind you you're bringing that they've given tickets.

591
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: To, Like you got to be the person's standing.

592
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: I would have stood out and said we we don't

593
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: and I will not collect.

594
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: It's just not okay.

595
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: I think the only time you would ever do it

596
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: ever is to maybe give your team match point and

597
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 3: then you and you react to not like, yeah, we

598
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 3: won the point. You would react like okay, let's go next. No,

599
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 3: I would be talking about okay, it's match point. That's

600
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: been the match point. But I would never applaud that.

601
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 3: So I just put that out to every team.

602
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: Let's just tennis. E want to hear it. And if

603
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: the crowd does it, that's not your fault.

604
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 4: No it's not, but it's but it's also you guys

605
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 4: yesterday were playing a very pro American and it was

606
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Speaker 4: an all American team team.

607
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: The crowd can do whatever they want, Yeah, paid money

608
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: to be there. They can cheer and scream and.

609
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: Whoever they want to win whatever, but your player's box

610
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 3: and the people that you are bringing into.

611
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: The stadium, you have to say that's not okay. Well

612
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad and that did not happen.

613
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 3: On my end, and because I would have been like, no, no, no,

614
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: it's not acceptable.

615
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 4: So well, I also feel like there's an Australian joy

616
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 4: and competition that I was talking with somebody last night

617
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 4: about Novak because now we should talk about men and

618
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 4: the way that he This person I was speaking to

619
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 4: was an Eastern European who said that they related to

620
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 4: Novak's emotion, his anger, his you.

621
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: Know, some of the many chief funny shoulder and you know,

622
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: and I.

623
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 4: Was sort of thinking about it, and I was like,

624
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 4: man tennis for me, you know, And granted it didn't

625
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 4: go very far, but it's such a joyous thing that

626
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 4: it's it's so hard to relate to players who play

627
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 4: from a place of anger. That's just like from the

628
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 4: bottom line, like, you know, it's so much more fun

629
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 4: to watch a joyous run, which is why it was

630
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 4: so fun to watch Emma Rodacon and win.

631
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: She seems so well and Leila, both of them.

632
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: I mean, even in the final and that women's final,

633
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: there were a couple of times where Emma would win

634
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 3: a great point and Layla would smile y, you know,

635
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 3: walking to the chief.

636
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it was so amazing to watch these kids.

637
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: Are you going to do laundry, Samantha? Okay, that's what happens.

638
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: That's why she's coming here. Let's do laundry. Oh, you know,

639
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: the card is downstairs. I'm like, I think it is.

640
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: It doesn't you're working. Look for the cloud. I look

641
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: for the card. It might be in the pocket of

642
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: my sweatpants on the bed. Sam. I have to say,

643
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a huge I would make Sam.

644
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 3: Put my stuff, which is also in the laundry, in

645
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: the dryer, but I'm afraid she'll like dry this stuff.

646
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to dry.

647
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 4: So is she?

648
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: No, you are a good laundry girl. You are. I've

649
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: got three buckets in there somewhere. She not accomplished a

650
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: laundry as much as she isn't. No, she's a very

651
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: good laundry person. Okay, great, Well, but she doesn't know

652
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: what I don't want to Sure, sure she doesn't know.

653
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 4: Okay, Men's final Novak. If there was going to be

654
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 4: a turd in the punch bowl, Wow, Danielle Medvedev is

655
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 4: the turd. Yeah, I mean I say that lovingly.

656
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: I love this gate. We put him on the cover

657
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: of it. She number thirteen. Your photo yesterday he was

658
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: middle finger up.

659
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 4: Well, he just had again crowd. The crowd was trying

660
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 4: to be a factor, and he shut it down. They

661
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: were cheering his uple faults at the end. They were

662
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Speaker 4: trying to will Novak back into it. They finally decided

663
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Speaker 4: after years and years that they liked him because they

664
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Speaker 4: wanted to see history.

665
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Speaker 1: Did they want to see history or did they want

666
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: to see a better match? It could be either, could be,

667
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think it was probably along the lines.

668
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 6: I don't know.

669
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Speaker 1: We had I think it was a comebug.

670
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 4: We had a lot of people on the ground taking

671
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 4: a lot of pictures of people in Serbian flags and

672
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 4: face paint, and I think there was a very very

673
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 4: very vocal you know, pro Novack, but also yeah, the

674
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 4: crowd likes when matches go to five sets. The crowd

675
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: likes when it appears to be a battle. You know,

676
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 4: sometimes their partisanship can change even within the scope of

677
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 4: a match. It would have been it was nice, frankly

678
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 4: to see the crowd get behind Novak. Yeah, and kind

679
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 4: of unequivocally yeah, I didn't like that. Sometimes it came

680
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 4: at the expensive Denilamnavitev only in the sense that they

681
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 4: were applauding double faults and they were plotting errors there.

682
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Speaker 3: At the end.

683
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: I so he would have flipped a bird to them.

684
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Speaker 3: I do hope that the crowds they want because this

685
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: is kind of why we love New York, right, they

686
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck that they wouldn't be so parochial

687
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: when when things go wrong like a dull fole or

688
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: just a horrible miss or something, and they just but

689
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: you know, it's what makes this tournament so special to

690
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: win because you do have to fight through a lot

691
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: of adversity sometimes and a lot of it comes with

692
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Speaker 3: having to fight against the crowd.

693
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Speaker 1: And that's one of the things I said to.

694
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Speaker 3: Sam and Joan Hue so that I was like, look,

695
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: the crowd's not going to be on your side, so

696
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: you're going to have to really that walk on the

697
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 3: court knowing that you're going to be it's going to

698
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: be really loud and really parochial, and none of it's

699
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 3: going to be for you who xcept us And you know,

700
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Speaker 3: Jean Shui, I don't.

701
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: Worry about Sam because Sam has dealt with that.

702
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously that final against Serena was you know,

703
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: that was a memorable moment for her not to get

704
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: too carried away with the crowd being very procurly against her.

705
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: But Jean Shui is quite emotional, so she was affected

706
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: a few times by it.

707
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: But you know, those are the factors that you have

708
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: to factor in here at the Years Open. And it's

709
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: not like that it's great. It's all the French Open

710
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: can be.

711
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: If it's a French if you're playing someone French, it's

712
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: not fun us And in England they're a little bit

713
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 3: more respectful and.

714
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: Same in Australia.

715
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just seems so much more knowledgeable about tennis

716
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 4: in those other places in general, in tournaments like Indian,

717
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 4: Wales and rom that it feels like, you know, you'll

718
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 4: get more of the kind of tennis fans that we

719
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 4: are or I am, which is like you're looking for

720
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 4: a good match, you're, oh, well, this is one of

721
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 4: my favorite players because I like their personality. You know,

722
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: we're as knowledgeable as we want to give myself that

723
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Speaker 4: much credit, but yeah, sure knowledgeable now.

724
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 3: But let's so we we had obviously, I think one

725
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: of the great things about this tournament was, and we

726
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: mentioned a few times yesterday on the ESPN said we

727
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: didn't have a couple of the biggest names obviously Serena

728
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: and Roger and Rafa and even Venus and names that

729
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: We've gotten so used to and loving having here at

730
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: the US Open. But it was remarkable. How remarkable this tournament,

731
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Speaker 3: even without the story.

732
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Speaker 1: Better and I think it was better.

733
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Speaker 3: The one thing that's to be able to listen to

734
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: be honest, I want them there. I always want these

735
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: cuss They've given so much to this sport. Yeah, they've

736
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: made this sport the level that it is now, the

737
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 3: money that's there because of their names and you know,

738
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: just everything about them and even Naomi losing early. I mean,

739
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: these are they transcend the sport. But what the great

740
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 3: thing that this showed me this tournament is that in

741
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: the end, like everybody always says, nobody is bigger than

742
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 3: the sport. Yeah, and we saw that over the last

743
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: two weeks. And we could never have predicted an eighteen

744
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 3: and nineteen year old in a final, a qualifier for

745
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: the first time winning the tournament.

746
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: I think we could.

747
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: And can we talk about the fact that this girl

748
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: had a panic attack at Wimbledon Yeah, no kidding and

749
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: got ripped by people like dickhead Piers More for being

750
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: a quitter.

751
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this happens to people.

752
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the fact that I had attack once, I

753
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 4: can't imagine having on TV in front of millions of

754
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 4: people one of the worst feelings if you've never had one.

755
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: It feels like you're going to die, is exploding out

756
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: of your chest. It's terrible. Eighteen.

757
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 4: You think she's going to just recover like that, Well, hello,

758
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 4: the very next Grand Slam she wins.

759
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a remarkable tomorrow.

760
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: Even Layla Fernandez and I saw that girl have such

761
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: yips on her serve at the start of this year

762
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 3: actually playing a doubles match against Sam.

763
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: I just thought, how does someone come back from that?

764
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: Because that is a mental little chip that you have

765
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: when you get the yips on your serve and the

766
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: toss and so to.

767
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: See the maturation of both of them over the last

768
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: like six months handle mental, those are mental sort.

769
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: Of yeah, those are hurdles that Those are hurdles that

770
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: are tough to get over.

771
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 3: To see them both be in the final and play

772
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 3: the way they did in the final, they both played

773
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: really well well. I think Lade could have played a

774
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: little better, but overall it was quite a unique.

775
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, and I think even looking at somebody

776
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 4: like Corlos Alcoraz, who had a great run, one of

777
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 4: a tournament in umag and Croatia with kind of like

778
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: just tearing everybody and backing it up with a really

779
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: strong run before he had to withdraw. You know, we

780
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 4: had Brooksby gents and Brooksby you know what the hell

781
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 4: Raleo Pelka getting in trouble for busting out of Friedrich

782
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 4: Kunath issue number nine cover painter unarthurized bag and getting

783
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 4: a fine because he's got an art gallery on his sleeve.

784
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 4: Like it was cool, I think, frankly to your point,

785
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: I love those names. Obviously, they've given the sport the

786
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 4: amplification and the platform that it has always deserved. But

787
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 4: to me, tennis has always been about the traveling circus,

788
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 4: the mishmash of people, styles, ages, nations, whatever that travels

789
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: week to week somewhere cool, and that is really what

790
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: shone through all these stories that would normally get overshadowed

791
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 4: by like is it gonna be the twentieth Slam for

792
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 4: this guy? It's like how many times do you want

793
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 4: to see? Also, like do you don't think Serena's tired

794
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: of the Grand Slam conversation?

795
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: Likely enough already, and the fact that Novak didn't win

796
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: and instead we had to nail Menvedev, who certainly earned

797
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: his first Grand Slam.

798
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 4: He came very close two years ago against Rafa over

799
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 4: five sets in the final. You know, the fact that

800
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: not one of those stories was what was the most

801
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 4: important story at the end of the day was so

802
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 4: satisfying to me as a tennis fan to say, yeah,

803
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 4: tennis isn't always has been about the broad diversity of

804
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 4: different crazy people who play this sport. And what an

805
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 4: amazing from the two Golden Slams in the wheelchair with

806
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: DT Degrout, Dylan Allcott, the doubles with you know, Sam

807
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 4: getting a decade between the last US Open Slam and

808
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 4: now it's just between theoules. I mean, yeah, yeah, it's

809
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 4: just so many cool storylines that again, the oxygen wouldn't

810
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 4: have been in the room to be able to explore these.

811
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: And really get excited about them.

812
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 4: And I think what it showed, and I would like

813
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 4: to know what the ratings are after when all of

814
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 4: a sudden done. But I but I had people texting

815
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 4: us telling us this is the most exciting I've excited

816
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 4: I've been to watch the US opening years. Sam appears

817
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 4: to be pantsless with a towel around it. This is

818
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 4: a real I feel like we should turn this off

819
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 4: and I think you.

820
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: Should take a photo of that and we'll put it

821
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: on the cover of this Sam walking around in the

822
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: Wimbledon towel because I'm fairly certain she's now washed.

823
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: Her Jane situation. Well, at least she has a shirt on.

824
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: I guess. Oh, we put them in the Fraser Wow. Okay, okay,

825
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: well am I.

826
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Speaker 4: By the way, there were so many cool stories that

827
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 4: could breathe because of this, and it just made me

828
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: so excited for what tennis has to offer. And I

829
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 4: think the broad consensus was this is the best tournament

830
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 4: that people have seen in years and years and years,

831
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 4: and not just because of the outcome, not just because

832
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 4: of the one or two stories, but because of the

833
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: diversity of stories.

834
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

835
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: I think the great thing is that we've just realized

836
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: that tennis will always outlive all of us, and it's

837
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: more important.

838
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: Than any superstar.

839
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: And the superstars are super important to the sport, but

840
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: the sport will always outlast the superstars.

841
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

842
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: Well, I just wanted to also give a shout out

843
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: before I forget, because we do love tennis so much.

844
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: You got to give a shouer to.

845
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: Deskruft Check, who won three Grand Slams in mixed this year. Yes,

846
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: one with Joe Salisbury at the French then she won

847
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 3: with Skupski at Wimbledon, and Salisbury in the final because

848
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 3: he dumped her to play with a brit at Wimbledon,

849
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 3: and she lovingly took him back and said, all right, fine.

850
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: I'll play with you at the US Open. And then

851
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: they won it.

852
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: And of course Joe Salisbury kudos to him because he

853
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: can the first male to win the double and the

854
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: mixed since Bob Bryant. That's so cool, so so an

855
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: amazing effort from dead and was an Arizona steet Arizona State.

856
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: All four mixed doubles players were college college tennis players.

857
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: To do you want college tennis? Dout out to them?

858
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: All three of them graduated.

859
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 3: One didn't think Alvarro didn't. But but yeah, great, great

860
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: effort from Dez and from Joe.

861
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 4: So yeah.

862
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: And as I said, Sam, I mean, do you want

863
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: to just give any parting words to do well? We

864
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: wait before she does.

865
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 4: I want to shout out to Virginia Weed, with whom

866
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: I enjoy, you know, not an insignificant flirtation.

867
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: Fun fact about me and Virginia Weed. It's pretty creepy,

868
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: but it's true.

869
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 4: You know, she was on hand and was commenting with

870
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 4: Emma's win now as being the second bridge and yes,

871
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 4: God knows when to win women's saying he's got to

872
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 4: be Yeah, the last time, the sixty eight was the

873
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 4: last time I was played at Forest Hills as a

874
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 4: matter of fact. Yeah, but now so just you know, hey, Virginia,

875
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 4: how you doing well? And come join us any parting fights,

876
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: any farts you have? Congratulations and delayed you get we

877
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 4: get to do the first people.

878
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: To part with you, Yeah, they do well.

879
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: Now you're like being on our pod three times. This

880
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: is a pretty pull that chair up if you want to. Yeah, yeah,

881
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: what struck you? Sam As penniless everyone, I've.

882
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 6: Got a twer. Am we settle just in general or what?

883
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? Just overall that obviously the moment for you to

884
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: win you Yeah, it was eighth Grand Slam title.

885
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 6: Uh four yes, four doubles, three mix one singles.

886
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 5: So yeah, to win a tournament sixteen years later after

887
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 5: winning it the first time is just amazing and it

888
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 5: was actually quite an emotional feeling out there and I

889
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 5: know you were in tears, so that was fun to see,

890
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 5: but yeah, I think we all were actually, But yeah,

891
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 5: it was just, you know, came into this kind of

892
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 5: us swing struggling for match wins, and you know, playing

893
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 5: a different partner isn't as great as they were and

894
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 5: had fun and everything else. You know, we didn't click

895
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 5: as well as what Shway and I do, and we've

896
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 5: obviously got a lot more matches together over previous years.

897
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 5: So to just be able to get back together in

898
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 5: Cincy and then carry that through and win eleven matches

899
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 5: straight was just something I never would have thought, Yeah

900
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 5: it would happen in the last three weeks.

901
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 6: So going home, very very happy.

902
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: Can you tell me one funny any Like?

903
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 3: Sam always has these funny stories about what Schwey says

904
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: to were on the court.

905
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: You know, some can be repeated, some cannot. But was

906
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: there anything yesterday where she said to you in the.

907
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: Final like something that was just you just thought, oh

908
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: my god, you're such a classic, because nah, she didn't really,

909
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: she was probably a bit more serious yesterday, I think,

910
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 3: you know, the moment and everything else, but we did

911
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 3: try and always smile and you know, have fun.

912
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 6: And do all the things that we usually do.

913
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 5: She didn't really say really funny things yesterday. There was

914
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 5: one moment when she actually lost serve in the second set,

915
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 5: the only time she lost herv and the crowd went bananas.

916
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 6: And I mean it wasn't I.

917
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 5: Don't know what, maybe half full maybe, but on that court,

918
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 5: it is so loud when they all get going, and

919
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 5: that sound just bounces off everything. And she actually put

920
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 5: her fingers up.

921
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: To her ears, like to close their ears because it

922
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: was so loud.

923
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 6: Did she so it was like that, and she was

924
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 6: just like I.

925
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 5: Could see that that noise just was like she couldn't

926
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 5: let that bother her and get to the you know, yeah,

927
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 5: bother her play. So I thought that was really interesting

928
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 5: because I've never seen her do that before, and that

929
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 5: was obviously how that she was going to handle that

930
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 5: moment and try and calm down and a right refocus

931
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 5: and get on with it.

932
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 6: No, we won the Azzy together a.

933
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 4: Couple of years ago, and was there any sort of

934
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 4: parallels to what today's or yesterday's match was like With that?

935
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: I was sort of like, Okay, this is going, this

936
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: is going.

937
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 5: Three.

938
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: We're playing against some hometown favorites.

939
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 5: Very different being in Australia, so we had the whole

940
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 5: crowd and everything else, and that was, you know, very

941
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 5: different feeling to yesterday. You needed, I know, we were

942
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 5: playing Americans and you know, everything else. But it was

943
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 5: really one sided. Yeah, and I knew that going into it,

944
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 5: but still kind of surprised me how much. But I think, yeah, that,

945
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 5: I mean, that was a huge difference as far as playing.

946
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 5: But it was just such a close match. It was

947
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 5: like a few points here, a few points there, a

948
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 5: couple of breaks and that was it for the whole match.

949
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 6: And we you know, just I guess played better in

950
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 6: the bigger moments.

951
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: And what did she tell what we needed to do

952
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: when you were serving?

953
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 6: So the first one she called a kicker, wife, and

954
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 6: we did it.

955
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 5: Actually played a good point and I've never run for

956
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 5: a lob as hard as what I did when they

957
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 5: when Coco hit an amazing lob actually over Schway's.

958
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 6: Head and I was just bolty. I was not going

959
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 6: to run fast. Yeah, I didn't get it back in

960
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 6: the court, but I was like, okay, that had just

961
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 6: had to give it everything.

962
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 5: And then the second one, she just looked at me

963
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 5: and said your favorite I know what it is and

964
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 5: then ran up to the net and then that was it.

965
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 5: That's cool, hit my serve and yeah, Coco missed it

966
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 5: and that was just a yeah, incredible.

967
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: Well that's a real testament to knowing how to be

968
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 4: in hyperreasure situations with somebody familiar, right, just be like, oh,

969
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 4: we have a shorthand you know, we have each other's backs,

970
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 4: even if the situation is a little adverse.

971
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 6: Oh for sure.

972
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 5: And that's I think how greatest strength is that we

973
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 5: back each other, we trust each other.

974
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 6: We doesn't matter whether you make it or you miss it.

975
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 6: It's on to the next point.

976
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: And sometimes I.

977
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 3: Think it's interesting because in Cincinnati, you wanted to serve

978
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 3: one thing and she told you to serve another, and

979
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: then yesterday she said, you hit your what you want

980
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 3: to hit right now. So I think that's really important

981
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 3: for doubles people to understand, or kids growing up or

982
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: trying to get an established doubles partnership, is that sometimes

983
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 3: you have to call your partner's serve because she can

984
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: sort of see in their eyes and they guys really know.

985
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: And then there's sometimes where and frankly, Sam, it's served

986
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: a really good game.

987
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: You leave it to them to experience and say this

988
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 3: is what I'm calling. So that's really important. So I

989
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 3: think that's important in that moment.

990
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, and even first point of that game. Actually, she

991
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 5: told me where she wanted me to serve on the

992
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 5: first point before I even said anything, and I changed it.

993
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 5: I was like, no, I'm doing this instead, and she's

994
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 5: like okay.

995
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

996
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 5: So it's like she likes to try and help and

997
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 5: she obviously can be at the net you can see

998
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 5: where your opponents may be standing or leaning towards more

999
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 5: frequently or anything like that.

1000
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 6: So she tries to help me. I guess making those decisions.

1001
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 5: But in that moment yesterday I was like, nope, I'm

1002
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 5: gonna hit the serves I need to hit right now.

1003
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 6: That's what we go with.

1004
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 4: All right, last question, So Renee sort of alluded to

1005
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 4: this before, but I didn't get as satisfying of an

1006
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 4: anecdote out of her.

1007
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: So take me back to last night.

1008
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 4: I'm talking to two slightly hungover people snafoo the bar

1009
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 4: and you're what are you drinking? At what point does

1010
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 4: Dylan Alcott come into the picture. Just pete the picture

1011
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 4: for me?

1012
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 5: Well, so we just had to go to Snapfoo because

1013
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: that's where we went after I won the singles title here.

1014
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 5: So I said, we just got to go there for

1015
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 5: one drink and then we can do whatever anyone wants.

1016
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 5: So we went there for one drink and ended up

1017
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 5: spending the whole night share. As you know, moving probably

1018
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 5: wasn't gonna happen, and I reckon we were almost kind

1019
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 5: of good to kind of pack it up, and then

1020
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 5: this cab arrived and I was like, that's step from ESPN.

1021
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 6: And then she's come around and she's like, Dylan's in

1022
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 6: the car, and I'm like, what, how did you come here?

1023
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 6: Why did you come here? And they just came because

1024
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 6: it was the only place still open so late.

1025
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 5: So then Dylan rocked up and then all of a sudden,

1026
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 5: we're like holding trophies and wearing gold medals and you know,

1027
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 5: having another couple of dreams. So I went inside and

1028
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 5: ended up getting a shot, and I'm just like, what

1029
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 5: am I doing?

1030
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 1: This is not good? That's great.

1031
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 5: Now I ran down the street and bought some pizza. Ye,

1032
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 5: actually yeah, I bought twenty bucks worth of pizza. I

1033
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 5: was like, how much can I get for this? And

1034
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 5: he's like a whole one and four more and I

1035
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 5: was like, give it all to me and they all

1036
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 5: got it pretty much.

1037
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, that was that.

1038
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 5: When at two am home at two sleep by three

1039
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 5: didn't feel amazing this morning, well that's fine.

1040
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: Though, So there you go. You're open twenty twenty one.

1041
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: Well done, well done, well done, both of you. Well done.

1042
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 4: Just distinctly privileged to be in your company to record

1043
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 4: a podcast. So I'd better get this up right now.

1044
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 4: So are many many fans and harassing me. Somebody came

1045
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 4: up to me he said are you Ketland from the

1046
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 4: Racket podcast? And I was like yes, expecting to get

1047
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 4: a compliment. He was like, why haven't you done one?

1048
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: I was like fuck, okay, all right. I was like

1049
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: all right, yes, you go.

1050
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1051
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: I didn't like say any autographs, but I had to

1052
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: apologize a lot.

1053
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: So not only did we do one for you the

1054
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: day after, whilst being hung over, but we also added.

1055
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: An eight time Grand Slam champion and now third time

1056
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: on the pod. Third time, second, no, third, third third.

1057
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: She was our guest home in Indian Wells prior to

1058
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: the pandy. Oh yes. When the pandy hit short for pandemic,

1059
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: the Pandy hit you were.

1060
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 6: Being a host more than a guest.

1061
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 5: Yes you have.

1062
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: On that note, On that note, thank you for Thank

1063
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: you Sam, and thank you everybody. Thank you for being

1064
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: patient with us. I promise you we're going to be

1065
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 1: having more and more depends on Caitlin.

1066
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 4: Goodbye, goodbye, and that's it for this episode of the

1067
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 4: Racket Magazine podcast.

1068
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 7: Thanks for listening. Our host is Renee Stoves. Our co

1069
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 7: host and producer is me Caitlin Thompson. Music by internationally

1070
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 7: renowned DJ Stretch Armstrong.

1071
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: Thanks to Tim Or Jerry and then the team at acast.

1072
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 7: Find us at racketmag dot com, slash podcast, and subscribe

1073
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: To us at any of your favorite podcasters