1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: From the Bloomberg Interactive Burgers Studios. This is Bloomberg Daybreak 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: for Tuesday, May ninth. Coming up today, All eyes. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: On the White House ahead of a key meeting on 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: the debt ceiling. 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Americans lose confidence in the Federal Reserve and share Jay Powell. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: Ubs reshuffles its management team, the first move since the 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: takeover of Credit Suisse. 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: And shares of Palenteer surge on strong demand for artificial 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: intelligence tools. 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: Calls continue for charges in the death of a New 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 3: York subway writer. Plus Senate Democrats won the list of 12 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: gifts from a billionaire to Justice Clarence Thomas. I'm Michael 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 3: Barr Moore Ahead, I'm. 14 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: John Stasharon's words. 15 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 4: The Knicks lost again in Miami, trailed the series three 16 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 4: to one. The Lakers beat the Warriors, The Yankees beat 17 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 4: the ad. 18 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 5: That's all straight Ahead on Bloomberg day Break, The business 19 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 5: news you need to start your day in just one 20 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 5: fifteen minute podcast each morning on Apples, Spotify, the Bloomberg 21 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 5: Business Appen everywhere you get your podcasts. 22 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. 23 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: And I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're following today. 24 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: The latest on the debt ceiling. The White House and 25 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: congressional leaders meet today to work on a path toward 26 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: an agreement. Amy Morris has a preview from our Bloomberg 27 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: ninety nine to one newsroom in Washington. 28 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 6: The possibility of a short term fix for the debt 29 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 6: standoff has gained traction since Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen warned 30 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,639 Speaker 6: the US maybe unable to service debt come June first. 31 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 6: Republican Senator Bill Cassidy of Louisiana tells Bloomberg that could work, 32 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 6: but it depends on the White House. 33 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 7: I think a short term debt ceiling increase would do 34 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 7: a little bit of a cooling off period. But you're 35 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 7: going to ask if the president is not going to engage, 36 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 7: what does buying short term mean. 37 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 6: Former Democratic Senator from Indiana Tim Romer tells Bloomberg's sound 38 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 6: on that a short term extension is the more likely outcome, 39 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 6: but there are other options to watch for. 40 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 8: Or you try to circumvent the process, either with the 41 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 8: fourteenth Amendment, or you have a discharge petition on the 42 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 8: House War and Democrats try to couldjol and persuade five 43 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 8: Republicans to get something cleaner down on the House floor. 44 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 6: Today's meeting starts at four at the White House in Washington. 45 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 6: I'm Amy Moore, is Bloomberg Daybreak? 46 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: All right, Amy, thank you. Well, a dead ceiling deal 47 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: will get done. That's a view from Bill Gross, the 48 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: former chief investment officer at PIMCO. In the meantime, he 49 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: recommends buying short term treasury bills. 50 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 9: I think it's ridiculous. You know, it's always resolved, and 51 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 9: not that it's one hundred percent chance, but I think 52 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 9: it gets resolved. I would suggest for those that are 53 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 9: less concerned, similar to myself, that they, you know, they 54 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 9: buy a one month two month treasury bill at i'm 55 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 9: much higher rate than that they get with a longer 56 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 9: term treasury bill. 57 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: Bill Gross made the comments in an interview with Bloomberg, 58 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: saying short dated bills have seword since Treasury Secretary Janet 59 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: Yellen war and the government could run out of cash 60 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: in June. 61 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: Well, when it comes to the dead ceiling, Karen, the 62 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: Federal Reserve is staying on the sidelines. At the same time, 63 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: were learning confidence in chair j Palell is falling. Let's 64 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: get the details from Bloomberg's John Tucker. 65 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 10: John, and not many people trust j. Palell to do 66 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 10: the right thing, Nathan. The results of a GALLA poll 67 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 10: out this morning show the lowest level of confidence recorded 68 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 10: since they began tracking public perception of the Central Bank 69 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 10: chief in two thousand and one. Only thirty six percent 70 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 10: of you as adults say they have a great deal 71 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 10: or a fair amount of confidence that the chairman would 72 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 10: do the right thing for the economy is popularity fell 73 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 10: as inflation rows and interest rates marched higher, and the 74 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 10: chance of winning any popularity contest looking slimmer. A FED 75 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 10: survey of lending officers shows banks reported tighter standards and 76 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 10: weaker demand for loans in the first quarter, increasing the 77 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 10: chance of her session in New York on John Tucker 78 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 10: Bloomberg Day Break, All. 79 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 11: Right, thanks John Well. 80 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: Regional banks are in focus in the Golden State today. 81 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: California says it's boosting scrutiny of lenders with over fifty 82 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: billion dollars in assets at Baxter. Has a story from 83 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: our Bloomberg nine to sixty newsroom in San francisc le Go. 84 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 12: This, of course, is more in the fallout from the 85 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 12: collapse of Silicon Valley Bank. The Department of Financial Protection 86 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 12: and Innovation says it plans to overhaul its processes with 87 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 12: more personal scrutiny of staffing policies and technology deficiencies. In 88 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 12: interviews with employees, there were constant complaints and criticism regarding 89 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 12: understaffing and lack of safety precautions. Promises had been made 90 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 12: to increase staffing before the collapse of SVB, but the 91 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 12: time frame had been set for some time in twenty 92 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 12: twenty three. They say it will happen now in San Francisco. 93 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 12: I'm at Baxter Bloomberg Daybreak thanks ed back on Wall Street. 94 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: Goldman Sachs has agreed to settle accusations that systematically underpaid women. 95 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: We get more on that from Bloomberg's Doug Prisner. 96 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 13: We're told Goldman struck a deal with lawyers representing about 97 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 13: twenty eight hundred women in a class action. They had 98 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 13: claimed the firm discriminated against them in pay and promotions. 99 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 13: We are told Goldman will pay two hundred and fifteen 100 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 13: million dollars to end the lawsuit. About a third of 101 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 13: the settlement is expected to be set aside for attorney fees. 102 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 13: The upcoming trial was scheduled for next month in New York. 103 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 13: It would have provided a rare public forum for testimony 104 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 13: about inequality inside the financial industry, an industry where all 105 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 13: but one of the six biggest US banks have only 106 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 13: ever been run by men. In New York, I'm Doug Prisoner, 107 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 13: Bloomberg Daybreak. 108 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: All right, Doug, thanks well over in Europe today, CEO 109 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: Sergio or Mati is overhauling the management team at UBS. 110 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: Tom Tuckner will replace Sarah Youngwood as chief financial officer. 111 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: It's the first staffing move since the takeover of Credits Suites. 112 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: We get more from Bloomberg's menus Cranny. 113 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 14: Be a veteran and what you will find is this 114 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 14: is what's coming through from Amati's appointment. Business about people 115 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 14: that he knows, people who he trusts, people who's been around. 116 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 14: He knows how they make decisions, you know how they 117 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 14: act in an integration. 118 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: And Bloomberg's menus Cranny says. UBS also appointed former Credit 119 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: Suite CEO of Rick Kerner to its top management body. 120 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: Ran here and the US here ensures of palent Here 121 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 2: are surging. There are more than nineteen percent of the 122 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: pre market. The company gave a strong earnings forecast and 123 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: said demand for its new artificial intelligence tool is unprecedented 124 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: volunteer works with governments and corporations with sensitive networks. It 125 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: offers services to analyze information like criminal databases, DMV records, 126 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: or phone data and more. 127 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: Changes on the way of Twitter, Nathan. The company will 128 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: soon remove accounts that have been inactive for several years. 129 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: That's the word from Elon Musk, who warns that users 130 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: could see follower accounts drop after the purge. 131 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: Time and not to take a look at some of 132 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: the other stories making news in New York and around 133 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: the world. For that were joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr 134 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: Good Morning, Michael. 135 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: Good Morning, Nathan. Protesters in New York City once again 136 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: called for charges after the death of a New York 137 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: Subway writer with a history of mental illness. Last evening, 138 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: demonstrators and police clashed near the Broadway Lafayette Street station, 139 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: where Jordan Neely died after he was put in a chokehold, 140 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: allegedly by a marine veteran. The NYPD says almost a 141 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 3: dozen arrests were made in MYPD Chief Jeffrey Madre said 142 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 3: demonstrators were warned and that's when he says officers noticed 143 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: it could become very dangerous and as we started to 144 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: move the crowd. We found a Molotov cocktail that was 145 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: in the crowd on the ground. A grand jury is 146 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: expected to decide soon whether Marine Daniel Penny will face 147 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: criminal charges for Neely's death. The fight continues between New 148 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: York City Mayor Eric Adams and Rockland County officials over 149 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: plans to house incoming asylum seekers. Adams is sending hundreds 150 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: of adult males to a Rockland County hotel. County Executive 151 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: Ed Day claims the influx will create an undue burden 152 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: on the area. 153 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 15: The City of New York right now is on the 154 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 15: edge of making things much much worse, destroying many more lives, 155 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 15: hurting many more people. That is what Mayor Adams and 156 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 15: his plan is going to do. 157 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,119 Speaker 3: County Executive Day has declared a state of emergency. Jury 158 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: deliberations are expected to begin today at former President Trump's 159 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: civil trial in New York. It stems from the alleged 160 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: rape of writer e Jen Carroll in the nineteen nineties. 161 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: Trump denies that had happened. Democratic members of the Senate 162 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: Judiciary Committee have asked billionaire Republican donor Harland Crowe to 163 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: lay out in detail any gifts or payments made to 164 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and his family. As a 165 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: battle over the High Court's ethics intensifies. In Russia, President 166 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: Vladimir Putin addressed his country's Victory Day parade on Moscow's 167 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: Red Square today. Putin claims that a real war has 168 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 3: been unleashed against Russia, a reference to the war in Ukraine. Earlier, 169 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 3: Russia unleashed a barrage of cruise missiles on Ukraine. Ukraine's 170 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: Air force said it had successfully destroyed twenty three of 171 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: twenty five of them. Global News twenty four hours a day, 172 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 3: powered by more than twenty seven one hundred journalists and 173 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 3: analysts in over one hundred and twenty countries. Michael Barr, 174 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg NAT. 175 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 2: Thank you, Michael. Time now for our Bloomberg Sports Update. 176 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: Good morning, John stan Scheller, Good. 177 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 4: Morning eighth in. The Knicks just play two games in Miami. 178 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 4: Ninety six minutes and they trailed for ninety five minutes 179 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 4: and twenty seven seconds, never led. Game three held two 180 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: very brief one point leads in the first quarter last night. 181 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 4: At one point, they did cut the Heat's lead down 182 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: to three. 183 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: It never got closer in. 184 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 4: Miami won one oh nine, one oh one and the 185 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: Heat and now lead the series three to one. Nicks 186 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: beating at their own game. Normally they have the rebounding advantage. 187 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 4: Miami out rebounded them by nine. They grabbed thirteen on 188 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: the offensive end. Julius Randall was asked about it. 189 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: They wanted more Honda. You know, I spend who we 190 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 3: are all year and we got to find a way to, 191 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: you know, step up and make those plays who want 192 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: to keep the season. 193 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 11: The lost five at the Garden. 194 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: Tomorrow with the Knicks facing elimination, the Lakers trailed Golden 195 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: State of the fourth quarter rally to win by three 196 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: in La, up three to one on the Warriors. The 197 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 4: other two series are tied at two, with Game five 198 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: tonight Celtics and sixers in Boston Phoenix. In Denver, Nuggets 199 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 4: staring Nikola Jokins not suspended. He was fined twenty five 200 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: thousand dollars for that incident with what it first appeared 201 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 4: to be just a Sun's fan was actually the owner 202 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 4: of the team. Stanley Cup Playoffs, Vegas won five to 203 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 4: one in Edmonton to go up to one in the series. 204 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 4: The Devils host Carolina Tonight home teams have won the 205 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: first three games. The Kams are up to one. Yankees 206 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 4: hit four home runs, even Aaron Hicks hit one. They 207 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 4: beat Oakland seven to two at the stadium, and Aaron 208 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 4: judge he'll be back in the lineup tonight. Mets losers 209 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 4: of eleven to last fourteen look to get back to five. 210 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 4: Bunch of Night in Cincinnati. The Max Scherzer on the Mount. 211 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 4: He hasn't won a game in a month. John Stash 212 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: Edward Bloomberg. 213 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 5: Sports Live from coast to coast, from New York to 214 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 5: San Francisco, Boston to Washington, d C. Nationwide on Syria 215 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 5: is exam the Bloomberg Business Appen Bloomberg dot Com. 216 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning. I'm Nathan Hager. The 217 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: political lines have been drawn ahead of today's high stakes 218 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: meeting on the debt ceiling between President Biden and congressional leaders. 219 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: White House Press Secretary Karine Jean Pierre. 220 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 13: We should not have House Republicans manufacturing a crisis on 221 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 13: something that has been done seventy eight times since. 222 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: Nineteen sixty Republican Senator Bill Cassidy. 223 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 7: The President needs to show leadership, not just say I 224 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 7: want it exactly the way I want it, and I 225 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 7: will talk to you otherwise. 226 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: Senator Cassidy spoke with Bloomberg ahead of this meeting that 227 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: is set to get underway after the closing bell. Ahead 228 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: of it. We are joined now by John Rain's director 229 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: with the Global Insights and Analysis team at S and 230 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: P Global. John, it's great to speak with you again. 231 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: I did find it interesting that they did schedule this 232 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: meeting after trading ends on Wall Street today. I wonder 233 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 2: if they're trying to minimize whatever market impact could come 234 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 2: out of what's discussed. 235 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 16: I think you raise a good point there, which is 236 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 16: that I think they do want to kind of push 237 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 16: this later in the day, potentially even after the media 238 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 16: cycle and the nightly news broadcast are out there. I mean, 239 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 16: obviously we're not expecting huge developments today. This is almost 240 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 16: a meet and greet atmospheric meeting, and really the big 241 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 16: news out of today is are they going to meet again? 242 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: And if they are, when can this really be a 243 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: meet and greet? Though, when we are hearing from Treasury 244 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 2: Secretary Janet Yellen that that's so called X state for 245 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: potential default could come in just about three weeks, just 246 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 2: a little bit more than three weeks time. 247 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 16: Right, So, I mean, like obviously, although this particular meeting 248 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 16: might not necessarily lead to some type of rapid advancement 249 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 16: in the negotiations, they're going to have to get there, 250 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 16: and they're going to have to get there quick. I mean, 251 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 16: there's only six more legislative days before the end of 252 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 16: the month where we're going to have both, you know, 253 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 16: a House and the Senate in session and Pride and 254 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 16: inside DC. 255 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 11: So they're going to have to start moving in the direction. 256 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 16: Of either some type of negotiated solution or what we're 257 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 16: beginning to hears you elaborated earlier is the possibility of 258 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 16: type of short extension, whether it's one to two weeks, 259 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 16: or whether we're looking at conjoining these negotiations with the 260 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 16: government funding, which of course will end out at the 261 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 16: end of September. 262 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: And that's what the President has insisted that he does 263 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 2: not want to do. He does not want to tie 264 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: this to government spending. Are you seeing any signs that 265 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: he's willing to bend on that point? 266 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 16: I think even announcing the dates that the idea that 267 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 16: he's willing to negotiate on government funding We've heard hints 268 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 16: from various members of the administration that they think a 269 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 16: short term extension would be possible, the White House would 270 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 16: be amenable to that are signs that they're willing to 271 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 16: kind of link this up. 272 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 11: We've seen this in the past and debt sealing. 273 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 16: Crisis as before, So therefore, I wouldn't be surprised that 274 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 16: this is something behind the scenes that there are already 275 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 16: somewhat pushing, with almost the House understanding that maybe a 276 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 16: debt you know, some type of resolution here, it's going 277 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 16: to take longer than three weeks. 278 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: We've also heard Republicans insisting that the President needs to speak, 279 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: particularly with the House Speaker Kevin McCarthy on this, and 280 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: even a Senator McConnell, who was involved in the negotiations 281 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: more than a decade ago, is saying that he doesn't 282 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: have some kind of secret deal to get something done. 283 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: He's insisting that he's going to stay on the sidelines. 284 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: Why is that important that it's going to be President 285 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: Biden and Speaker McCarthy and potentially no one else really 286 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: being involved in the highest level discussions here. 287 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 11: Well, we don't. 288 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 16: I mean obviously that those are the atmospherics that we're 289 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 16: going to be seen later on today and that's what 290 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 16: we're going to be seeing in this first week or so. 291 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 16: But behind the scenes, we're going to see moderates within 292 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 16: both parties kind of trying to hash out a deal. 293 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 16: So it's important, i think in some respects because McConnell 294 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 16: was so instrumental in getting deals in the past. So 295 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 16: if he sits on the back bench this year and 296 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 16: then it's really just McCarthy and Biden McCarthy. 297 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 11: And somewhat to somewhat dependent. 298 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 16: On those conservative Republicans and sot there any deal that 299 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 16: he ends up making is maybe going to cost him 300 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 16: boats within his caucus to. 301 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 11: Keep his speakership. 302 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 16: So therefore, despite the the fact that we're likely to 303 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 16: see these guys coming out of this press conference saying, hey, listen, 304 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 16: we have a new date, we're looking forward. 305 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 11: Things are moving, you know, in a positive direction. 306 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 16: At the end of the day, it's going to be 307 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 16: moderates within both parties that are actually going to be 308 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 16: able to push a deal across the finish line. 309 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: Is there enough support for a moderate deal in Congress 310 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: when you have a lot of very conservative Republicans that 311 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: Speaker McCarthy Hinges onto maintain his speakership. We got about 312 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: a minute left here. 313 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 16: Sure, yeah, I think in all honesty, it will be 314 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 16: difficult if the White House doesn't budget at all. In 315 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 16: House Republicans don't budget all, it doesn't really matter. 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