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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're all

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Speaker 1: getting fitted for mouthguards because we've got rugby fever and

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Speaker 1: because safety comes first.

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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, August twentieth.

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Speaker 1: Then on today's show will be skipping the need to

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Speaker 1: know and jumping straight into my conversation with USA rugby

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Speaker 1: players Olivia Leatherman and Katie Benson ahead of the Women's

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Speaker 1: Rugby World Cup.

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Speaker 2: Starting Friday in England.

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Speaker 1: We dig into how they both got their start in

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Speaker 1: the sport, the difference between rugby fifteens and rugby seven's,

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Speaker 1: Alona Mar's insane impact on rugby coverage, and what they

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Speaker 1: wish more folks knew about the game. That conversation's coming

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Speaker 1: up right after this. Joining US now, she's a prop

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Speaker 1: for the US national rugby team, the Eagles, plus the

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Speaker 1: Boston Banshees of the Women's Late Rugby League and the

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Speaker 1: Sale Sharks of Greater Manchester, England. Originally from Buffalo, New York,

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Speaker 1: where she grew up starring and cross country, she started

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Speaker 1: her rugby career at Penn State, where she helped lead

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Speaker 1: her team to five national championships across fifteens and sevens.

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Speaker 1: Made her national team debut against England in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 1: and is one of the most capped women's Eagles, having

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Speaker 1: represented the US at the twenty seventeen and twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one Rugby World Cups. Her Insta pics make every city

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Speaker 1: she's in look like absolute magic. I'm booking a flight

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Speaker 1: to Sale asap. It's Katie Benson.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Katie, Hi, how are you? I'm good? Thanks for

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Speaker 2: joining us? Also joining us.

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Speaker 1: She's a prop for the US national rugby team, the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: and the Ealing Trail Finders Rugby Club of West London.

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Speaker 1: A native of Parma, Ohio, she played rugby and soccer

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Speaker 1: growing up and joined the rugby club at Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: College in South Euclid, Ohio, and has worked her way

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Speaker 1: up to the senior national team, getting her first call

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Speaker 1: up this year. Her go to karaoke song is Carrie

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Speaker 1: Underwood's Before He Cheats, and she recently celebrated her birthday.

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Speaker 1: But she's the oldest twenty three year old you've ever met.

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Speaker 1: She somehow prefers phone calls to texts, shopping in store

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Speaker 1: to online, and she loves staying in with the book.

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Speaker 1: Next thing She's gonna tell us She's taken up knitting

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Speaker 1: and staring out at the lawn.

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Speaker 2: It's Olivia Leatherman.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Olivia Helthough, actually I dochet. I'm working on a project.

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Speaker 4: Here are there we go?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna there we go. Okay, we are going

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Speaker 2: to club.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna dive into how you're the oldest twenty

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Speaker 1: three year old I've ever heard of. Later, but thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us and getting us pumped for the

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Speaker 1: upcoming Rugby World Cup in England. It's kicking off later

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Speaker 1: this month. We can all watch it live on Paramount Plus.

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Speaker 1: But if we're gonna watch it, we need to understand it.

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Speaker 1: So y'all have to help us with some of the basics. Katie,

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Speaker 1: can you explain the format for this World Cup tournament?

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Speaker 1: Just like pool play, how you advance all that good stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So we have pool plays. So there's four pools

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Speaker 5: and you play each team in your pool. Our first

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Speaker 5: game is against England in two weeks, and then we

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Speaker 5: moved to Australia and then Samoa and then based on

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Speaker 5: how that goes, we you go to quarterfinals, semifinals, finals.

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Speaker 5: First three games are the most important to us right now.

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Speaker 5: Big game against England and then we go from there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's similar to the soccer or footy World

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Speaker 1: to get out of your pool and then you start

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Speaker 1: to get into the elimination rounds. Olivia, can you help

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Speaker 1: us understand the difference between rugby fifteens and rugby sevens?

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Speaker 1: What's the basic gist of both of those kinds of rugby?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so sevens is seven v seven and those are

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Speaker 3: and you can play more than one in a day,

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Speaker 3: and fifteen's is fifteen v fifteen and they're eighty minute games.

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Speaker 4: And then the set pieces also look a little bit different.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the scrums are eight versus eight and a scrum

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Speaker 3: in fifteens, and then in sevens the scrums are three

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Speaker 1: So set pieces are things that we might be familiar

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Speaker 1: And there's a variety of kinds in rugby. But what

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Speaker 1: might start in fifteens versus sevens, Olivia?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'd say fifteen's is a little bit more

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, and we have like our flat half,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so taking a swing at this, props are kind

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I say so, okay.

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Speaker 1: Katie, we all watched the Olympic rugby that was sevens,

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Speaker 1: but in the World Cup there's actually fifteens and sevens

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Speaker 5: So for fifteens it's every four years and sevens is

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Speaker 5: every four years, so it's kind of like the summer

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Speaker 5: and Winter Olympics where it goes like every two years.

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Speaker 5: We did have because of COVID, we had it at

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Speaker 5: like a three year cycle, so usually it kind of changes.

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Speaker 5: it's like you have like a World Cup like every

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Speaker 1: So okay, cool and are a lot of the same

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Speaker 1: people doing the fifteens and the sevens or at the

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Speaker 5: I think it's the mixture of both. You know, we

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Speaker 5: But it depends on what year it is for World Cup.

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Speaker 5: So if it's a fifteen, some people focus more a

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Speaker 5: little bit more on fifteen's. If it's seven's, they focus sevens.

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Speaker 5: If the Olympics comes like it just depends on that year.

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Speaker 5: But it's usually a lot of our wings and are

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Speaker 1: Cool, okay, so Olivia, you're both props. You mentioned sort

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Speaker 1: your work in the scrum or the word that my

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Speaker 1: friend invented scruddle, which is both a huddle and a scrum.

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Speaker 2: So are you tight heads or loose heads? And what's

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Speaker 4: Ironically we are both.

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Speaker 3: We are, but.

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Speaker 4: There is a difference.

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Speaker 3: Uh, loose head, you're on the left side of scrum and.

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Speaker 4: Trying to figure out how your head free.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, your head is free, like you're on the more

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Speaker 3: Your head goes in between two other players, so you're

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Speaker 1: Like shoulder to shoulder, pushing against someone all the time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, got it?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so quite literally, tight head.

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Speaker 3: Or yeah, I'd say they both require different like technical

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Speaker 3: especially at the international level, they both require different skill sets.

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Speaker 4: So I've been working on learning how to play both.

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Speaker 4: And I will tell you that it is different. It's

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Speaker 2: Well that brings me to the beginning.

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Speaker 1: So, Katie, how did you start playing rugby and how

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so my dad played rugby, and I think that's

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Speaker 5: So then when I got to college, one of the

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Speaker 4: Like, this is the best sport ever. And he was just.

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Speaker 5: Like, I've told you this so many times and he

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Speaker 3: Yes, I was in high school and I played soccer

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Speaker 3: and I swam, and I was like looking for like

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Speaker 3: And one of my friends played for the guys team

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Speaker 4: And so I was out for right.

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Speaker 3: So it was out for quite a while, but I

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Speaker 1: Katie, when you were coming up because your dad played,

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Speaker 1: did you have rugby players you could admire and look

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Speaker 1: up to even as a kid or when you got

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Speaker 1: to college or was it hard to try to find

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Speaker 1: sort of the role models in the sport.

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Speaker 5: To be honest with you, my dad played to like

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Speaker 5: maybe I was like ten years old, and I think

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Speaker 5: that's when my sister and I. Oh, granted he was

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Speaker 5: getting older so it was a little bit rough. But

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Speaker 5: I used to just watch games and like I didn't

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Speaker 5: playing with my sister. I I was in a million

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Speaker 5: I used to go to some like watch some games

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Olivia, how about you are there like all time

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Speaker 1: favorite rugby players that you'll look up to.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We do get to watch this upcoming Rugby World Cup

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Speaker 2: That's one of the three opponents in your pool.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, over three hundred and thirty thousand tickets sold,

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Speaker 1: It's obviously brought a lot of attention to the sport

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Speaker 1: But also you play in women's lead rugby for the

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Speaker 1: Olivia, what do you wish more people knew about rugby

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Speaker 1: What can our listeners read, watch, or listen to to

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Speaker 5: You might not know what's going on in rugby. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll figure it out as you go. Basically, yeah, yeah, Olivia.

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Speaker 1: Head injury assessment HIA is what you're talking about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Katie, it's obviously can be a violent sport,

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Speaker 1: can be a dangerous sport. We know in other more

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Speaker 1: highly publicized and covered sports like the NFL, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of conversation about head injuries. What's the larger conversation

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Speaker 1: in women's rugby about of course wanting to play and

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Speaker 1: you know, do your thing, but also protect yourself.

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Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing that we do to protect

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Speaker 5: our head is just learn how to fall correct, like

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Speaker 5: the right way and how to tackle correctly.

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Speaker 4: Like we do.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of technique you can just tackle and everything,

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Speaker 5: because that is like the biggest thing to help with

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Speaker 5: those injury injuries to the head. There's a lot of

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Speaker 5: technology out there that some people wear scrum caps and

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Speaker 5: some people There's all different things that people do, but

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Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing is just knowing how to

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Speaker 5: tackle correctly and knowing how to fall and that mouthguard

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Speaker 5: because that mouthguard does help you with like the biting

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Speaker 5: down which can also cause those head head injuries. So

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Speaker 5: biggest thing is just, yeah, learn how to tackle and fall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, learn how to fall for life in general.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, before we let you go, you have

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Speaker 1: to do our version of bench start cut. It is good, gooder, goodest.

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Speaker 1: So nothing has to be cut. You just go something's good,

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Speaker 1: something's gooder, and something is the very best.

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Speaker 2: It's goodest.

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Speaker 1: So scoring a try, nailing a killer drop goal, or

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Speaker 1: a juicy tackle, Olivia, give me those good good or goodest.

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Speaker 4: Well, I can't say I'll be hitting many a drop goals.

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Speaker 4: I'll say that's good.

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Speaker 3: Scoring a try would probably be goodest, and then a

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Speaker 3: tackle will be gooder, gooder.

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Speaker 5: How about you, Katie, I am with the good with

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Speaker 5: the drop goal. I don't think I should ever be

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Speaker 5: drop kicking a ball. I think gooder would be scoring

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Speaker 5: a try and goodest would just be nailing a tackle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, spoken like a true prop.

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Speaker 1: If I know anything about being a prop, which I don't,

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Speaker 1: but I gathered that your job would be to hit.

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Speaker 2: The snot out of people a lot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, that's one of the top five things to

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Speaker 5: do as a prop. I won't lie. Well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for giving me some time

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Speaker 1: as we get ready for the World Cup. We can't

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Speaker 1: wait to watch, and I do love how Alona has

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Speaker 1: been taking every opportunity, whatever stage she's on, whatever post

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Speaker 1: she's making, to try to draw attention to this event

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Speaker 1: for everybody to really get involved and start watching the

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Speaker 1: US at more than just the Olympics. So good luck

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Speaker 1: to both of you. We're looking forward to watching the

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Speaker 1: eagles fly.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much to Olivia and Katie for joining me

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Speaker 1: from across the pond. We got to take another break

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Speaker 1: when we come back. A skateboarder on a mission to

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Speaker 1: raise money does her big one welcome back slices. We

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Speaker 1: World Cup kicks off on Friday at two thirty pm Eastern,

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Speaker 1: link to the full World Cup schedule in our show notes.

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Speaker 1: on a skateboard. Johnson started her three thousand and ninety

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Speaker 1: one point seven mile quest in Venice, California, and for

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Speaker 2: Now why'd she do it all? The challenge was in.

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Speaker 1: Memory of for he step dad, Roger, who passed away

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Speaker 1: from a spinal cord entry. She spoke to Wavy News

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Speaker 1: I told him I would get a world record in

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Speaker 2: And she did both.

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Speaker 1: Her goal was to raise fifty thousand dollars for Wings

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Speaker 1: for Life USA Spinal Cord Research Foundation, and per the

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Speaker 1: updated donation page, she crushed it. Brook's efforts helped to

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Speaker 1: raise over fifty four thousand dollars. Brook, you're officially a badass.

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Speaker 1: You made that promise, set that goal and skated right

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