1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. 4 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Thursday edition of The Clay Travis and. 5 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: Buck Sexton Show kicks off right now. 6 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here with us. A couple of big 7 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: stories right off the top, we're going to spend some 8 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: time on today. One the pullback from the operation in Minneapolis, 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: the enhanced ice deployment there. We have some soundbites from 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: Tom Homan. We have updates from the administration on this one, 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: but they are claiming the mission has been completed and 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: therefore this is on schedule. Is that the way this 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: will play More broadly, we will discuss also a horrific 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: shooting by a transgender man claiming to be a woman 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: at a secondary school outside of Vancouver in Canada, and 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: the Canadian mediaarticular, though not only Canadian media, are pretending 17 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: it was a woman. We're going to talk about this. 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: There is a mass hysteria, a mass delusion around this 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: transgender issue, and we are not going to back down 20 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: one inch from the truth. It's very important, so we 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: will get into that. Talk a bit about Minnesota. Also, 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: some excellent guests today. We have Secretary of Education Lenna 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: McMahon with us in the next hour. We will talk 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: to her about a new prize for what has to 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: do with the American Founding, has to do with two 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years of America, which we're celebrating the summer, 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: which is very exciting. And we also have our friend 28 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly who will deign to spend a few minutes 29 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: of his time with us, and I'm sure we'll have 30 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: pithy commentary on America's political and cultural scene, as well 31 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: as Klay Travis's mustache, which is now turning into kind 32 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: of a gruffbeard slash mustache situation. You're going sort of 33 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: like for the Sam Elliott after a couple of weeks 34 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: out on the trail. Look now, is that. 35 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: Where we don't really know? I'm kind of in a 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: tough spot with the mustache. You know, if I go 37 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: clean shaven, then the mustache is completely a commitment. Here 38 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 3: at this time, I wouldn't I wouldn't know who you were, 39 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: like if you showed up clean shaven, if that mustache 40 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: and the beard were gone, I would think you were 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: an imposter and I wouldn't know what to do. So 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, it's the most trusted mustache 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: in news. 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 4: Now. 45 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 3: I'm not even sure who my competition would be. Heraldo 46 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: maybe back in the day, but I think Heraldo retired, 47 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 3: so I don't know. I feel an obligation to the 48 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: American public and I don't know exactly how to how 49 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: to land the plane, so to speak, although with this mustache, 50 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: I'd probably be great at landing planes. 51 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: I think, similar to Churchill played by Gary Oldman in 52 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: Darkest Hour, you should let the people weigh in on this, 53 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: and you should just take it to a pole and 54 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: just see what the Clay Travis people of America, because 55 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: I think team mustache will win. I think if you 56 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: put it to a fair democratic process, you become a 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: mustache guy instead of a weird guy. 58 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 3: You know what's funny is a lot of twenty year 59 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: old guys have mustaches. I was watching the US men's 60 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: hockey team as they were playing and getting ready for 61 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: their games and everything else. Almost everybody on the team 62 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: has a mustache. Now, so my fifteen year old was like, 63 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: that's a good you know, Stash. I mean, I think 64 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: the mustache has surged in the like eighteen to twenty 65 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 3: eight year old contingent out there. So I'm definitely way 66 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: older than them, but there are a lot of them. 67 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: I noticed it out at the Super. 68 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: Bowl, so we will see. We shall see. 69 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: All right, Minnesota, let's talk about this. The White House 70 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: is saying that this is essentially mission accomplished, and that 71 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: that why there's a change here. This is Tom Homan 72 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: this morning, who has taken the lead on the messaging 73 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: and the operations in Minneapolis. Here he is saying that 74 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: this is coming to a conclusion in that state, play one. 75 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 5: I have proposed, and President Trump has concurred that this 76 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 5: surge operation conclude. A significant drawdown has already been underway 77 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 5: this week and we'll continue to the next week. We 78 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 5: have a lot of work to do across this country 79 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 5: to remove public safety, to risk who shouldn't even be 80 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 5: in this country, and to deliver on President Trun's primers 81 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 5: for strong border security and mass deportation. Law enforcement officers 82 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 5: drawing down from this surge operation will either return to 83 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 5: the duty station or be signed elseware to achieve just that. 84 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Play. 85 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 6: I worry that even if this is true, meaning that 86 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 6: they feel like they've gotten better cooperation and they have, 87 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 6: by the way, a quick note here because some of you. 88 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: I looked very briefly, this is a little bit of 89 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: a digression, looked very briefly at a map, and when 90 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: I said, outside of Vancouver where the shooting was, was sorry, 91 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: it's seven hundred miles from Vancouver. My Canada geography is 92 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: not great. That was the closest city that I knew of. 93 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: I saw the map too, and I thought it was 94 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 3: fairly close to Vancouver as well. 95 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Canada is a very big place. So that 96 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: was not that. That's kind of a whiff on my part. 97 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: It's quite a way. It's way up in British Columbia. Anyway, 98 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: we'll come back to that. But I, just before everyone 99 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: starts filling up the inbox, but that's nowhere near Vancouver. 100 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: It's the closest city that I knew. But that's because 101 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: I don't know Canada very well. All right, back to Minneapolis, 102 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: Tom Holman, He says, Clay, how does this play? Because 103 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: the worry is that the maniacs, the purple haired, shrieking 104 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: street harpies are gonna say we won. 105 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: Now let's go on to round two. I think that's 106 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 3: one hundred percent of valid concern. Now Here is what 107 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: I would say in general, it seems as if Minneapolis 108 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: and Minnesota both back down in terms of not turning 109 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: over violent criminals when they are arrested people who are 110 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 3: violating the law, that essentially they are now notifying ICE 111 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: and allowing ICE to take possession take them into custody 112 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: when they are being released from Minneapolis and Minnesota area prisons. 113 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 3: That's what I saw Keith Ellison, and I don't know 114 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 3: if we have the audio, but he was effectively acknowledging that. 115 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 3: So here's what I think happened. I think both sides 116 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: said this is not beneficial. Tom Homan went to Minneapolis, 117 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: had a good conversation. He said, we will draw back 118 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 3: the number of ICE agents on the streets if you 119 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: guys will start to allow us to arrest violent criminals 120 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: that come into your possession instead of releasing them back 121 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: into the streets. There was a quat handshake agreement on this, 122 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: and that is really what has gone on behind the scenes. 123 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: I also think that if you look at the population 124 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: of Minneapolis relative to other states, it doesn't have as 125 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: many illegal immigrants, and so the surge was only going 126 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: to be necessary for a limited amount of time because 127 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: you're going to go get a huge percentage of the 128 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: people there. So I think this is effectively both sides saying, hey, 129 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: we've gotten what we consider to be a good result 130 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: from a compromise perspective. What you and I said, and 131 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: this would be my concern going forward is well, the 132 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: obstruction tactics put in place in Minneapolis are now going 133 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: to be utilized in other cities where there are ICE 134 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 3: agents out in the streets. And we'll see whether that 135 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: ends up being the case or not. And the final 136 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: thing that I would point to is. 137 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: Tim Walls's political career is over. 138 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: We have a governor's race and a Senate race that 139 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: is taking place in the fall in twenty twenty six 140 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: in Minnesota, and ultimately Minnesota voters on some level are 141 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: going to come out and tell us what they think 142 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: about the direction of their state. The fact that Tim Walls, 143 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: who a little over a year ago was the heartbeat 144 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: away potentially from the presidency, now has this political career 145 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: over would be a sign that much of the immigration 146 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: related aspects of Minnesota politics are not breaking in favor 147 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 3: of the Democrat Party. 148 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: And I actually saw a pull out yesterday. 149 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: I believe it was showing Michelle Tafoya in the Senate 150 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: race only down by five or six points against the 151 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: presumptive Democrat nominee. So again governor's race and a Senate 152 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: race in Minnesota. We will find out how this all 153 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: plays out in about ten months. 154 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: That will be the first verdict on this. 155 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: I think the governor Klobashar is likely to win and 156 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: comfortably win, But in the Senate race, which is I 157 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: would argue, actually way more consequential on a national scale, 158 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 3: I think Michelle Tafoya is gonna be able to make 159 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 3: a real run there, So that to me will be 160 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: the question going forward. 161 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: We shall see. Certainly would be great to start to 162 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: turn the political tide a bit in Minnesota. Who would 163 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: have thought Minneapolis would be both at the heart of 164 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: BLM two point zero and then the sort of front 165 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: line of the resistance against enforcement of law when it 166 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: comes to immigration, So it would not have been on 167 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: the top five cities I would have thought of as 168 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: the hotbeds of left wing radicalism. But apparently, and I 169 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: have a family friend who just moved down here from 170 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: Minneapolis to South Florida. Apparently everyone who lives there in 171 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: oh No, in city limits they're nuts, so this is 172 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: not a surprise to them. 173 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: I think it's actually a scary take because again, like 174 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 3: I was looking, I was doing my reading this morning, 175 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: and the number of people that never said a word 176 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: about Ice for the entire time that Barack Obama was 177 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: in office and have suddenly been mobilized to believe that 178 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 3: Ice is the modern day SS that their Nazis probably 179 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: ties in quite well with your book, But Manufacturing Delusion, 180 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: which will be out in five days, I believe, if 181 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, that. 182 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: Is correct, sir. 183 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 3: But the degree to which Democrats are able to mobilize 184 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: people who didn't care about anything at all for decades 185 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: to suddenly decide that this is the most imminent dangerous 186 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: threat that we face in America today really should scare 187 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 3: all of us because they're going to move on to 188 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: the next new thing. But they really have on the 189 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 3: left wing in this country managed to mobilize people to 190 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: fight back against things that have been considered totally standard 191 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: operating procedure for decades under Democrat presidents, as if it 192 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: is an existential threat to the nation. And that scares me, 193 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: because you know, you had a guy in this Alex 194 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: Pretty who basically everybody stopped talking about as soon as 195 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: that video of him spitting on ICE agents and kicking 196 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: the tail light out. Do you notice that Buck? Everybody 197 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, this guy is unbelievable, hero nurse. 198 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: He was totally innocent, he never had missed back. And 199 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 3: then the video came out and I hear almost nothing 200 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: about Alex Pretty now. But how did a guy like 201 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: Alex pretty get radicalized to such an extent? I was 202 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 3: reading they had a story in the New York Times 203 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: about his family. I guess the mom and dad spoke 204 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: to media in the last day or so. How did 205 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: this guy go from They said he grew up in 206 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: Green Bay, Wisconsin, mom and dad, sister, no normal family 207 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: of four, and he just completely lost his mind and 208 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: decided that his role in life was to be an 209 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: obstacle to ICE. I don't understand it at all. It's 210 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: downright scary. We'll talk about that. We'll take some of 211 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: your calls. A lot of people met Matt at Buck 212 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: over the marijuana discussion, and you know, again, continue to 213 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,479 Speaker 3: direct all your vitriol in Bucks direction, but in all seriousness, 214 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 3: we got a bunch of talkbacks on that. We'll play 215 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: some of that for you and we'll open up phone lines. Also, 216 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: Linda McMahon, the Education Secretary, she's got an announcement for us. 217 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: She is going to join us. 218 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: Some of you will know her as the wife of 219 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: Vince McMahon, legendary WWE founder. We will discuss much with 220 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: Linda McMahon and then our buddy Jesse Kelly going to 221 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 3: be on with us at two thirty minute of you 222 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: hear him on many of the same Premiere Network stations 223 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: in the evening, in the time slot that Buck Sexton 224 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 3: used to have. So we will talk with Jesse and 225 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 3: with Linda McMahon as well going forward. But it is 226 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 3: now college basketball season. Right after the Super Bowl, I 227 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 3: immediately pivot and I say, okay, I'm starting to get 228 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: a little bit of a fever for March Madness, which 229 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: is coming very very soon. Last night I kicked my 230 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: feet up and watched college basketball games. 231 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: That is after I you know, I'm really beating my 232 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: eleven year old. 233 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: We have a new six foot basketball goal downstairs, many 234 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: basketball hoop and you know, I'm not really the kind 235 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: of guy to brag, but if prize picks were setting odds, 236 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: I'm crushing him every day, multiple horse games. Dad is 237 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: the champion. Prize Picks would have to set unbelievable odds 238 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 3: for you to bet on my fifth grader. Not that 239 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 3: I want to throw him under the bus, but I 240 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: crush him every night. And if price Picks were setting 241 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: odds on this, you would take more on championships that 242 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: are going to be won by Dad. And if you 243 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 3: are a college basketball fan, if you are an NBA fan, 244 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: if you are a basketball fan, heck you're like me, 245 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: and you're ready for pitchers and catchers to report, because 246 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 3: not very far till Major League Baseball is going. 247 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: To be back. 248 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: It's super fun, super easy to play. All you have 249 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 3: to do is pick more or less on two or 250 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: more athletes in your favorite sports. And when you play 251 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: five dollars, you get fifty dollars deposited in your account. 252 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: Price picks dot com code clay, that is prizepicks dot 253 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: com code c l a y Prize Picks dot com 254 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: code clay. 255 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: Both Buck and I love American history. We are huge 256 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: history nerds. 257 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: We regularly talk about it a ton, and we are 258 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: joined by someone else who is a major history officionado. 259 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: She is Linda McMahon, Secretary of Education of the United States, 260 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: and we are now celebrate rating America two fifty. And 261 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: we've been talking about America two fifty quite a bit 262 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: on the program, even though we're early into the year. 263 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 3: And secret Ser mcnam, we appreciate you coming on right now. 264 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: You are announcing a presidential seventeen seventy six award. Historical 265 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: literacy is a major issue among young people in the 266 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: United States today. Tell us what this competition will will 267 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 3: do and what you're hoping it will create. 268 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 7: Well, thanks so much for having me on, and I 269 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 7: appreciate the fact that you are both such historical abbuffs 270 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 7: and put such emphasis on it, because I can tell 271 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 7: you it's not been emphasized much in our country, as 272 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 7: we see unfortunately through our scores across the country when 273 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 7: kids are tested on their civics or historical knowledge. And 274 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 7: so this is part of the President's initiative. This seventeen 275 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 7: seventy six award, in conjunction with the celebration is our 276 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 7: two hundred and fiftieth birthday for the country, and so 277 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 7: to generate interest, he wanted to create the Civics Awards. 278 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 7: So the registration is open right now. For students who 279 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 7: want to enroll, and what they do is they're going 280 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 7: to sign up to take the World's Impossible Test. I 281 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 7: have ninety minutes online to answer four thousand questions. That's 282 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 7: called the Impossible Tests. Wow, and and I would think 283 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 7: it would be but it's you know, ever, how many 284 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 7: they get, not how many they answer, but how many 285 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 7: the answer correctly of course, you know, will determine the 286 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 7: winner in each round. So it's a three round competition 287 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 7: and the top winners are gonna receive the top very 288 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 7: top winner will receive the scholarship of one hundred and 289 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 7: fifty thousand dollars and second place is seventy five thousand 290 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 7: and third places twenty five thousand, and so, you know, 291 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 7: it's conducted a little like a national spelling being. They'll 292 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 7: be you know, the first round of competition and then 293 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 7: we'll have you know, regionals and the districts, and then 294 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 7: three winners will come to Washington, d C. In June 295 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 7: of this year and we'll have the final competition and 296 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 7: then the awards will be made. So it's it's created 297 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 7: a lot of excitement. So we're very happy. We're sending 298 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 7: notices out, you know to teachers, to organizations, to schools, 299 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 7: to principles, to everyone, and getting it online so that 300 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 7: as many people can be notified that it's a fun 301 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 7: thing to do with a great potential reward so they 302 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 7: can go to Presidential seventeen seventy six Award dot org. 303 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: Have you have you thought about giving media this test? 304 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 3: Because when you're describing this, I actually think this would 305 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: be real. I would like to take it. I know 306 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: I'm not eligible, but four thousand questions ninety minutes. I 307 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 3: think it would be really fun. If you got some 308 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: media out there that cover the White House and beyond, 309 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: I would take this. I think it would be interesting 310 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 3: to see what kind of scores people might post. 311 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 7: Well chance, I think you should just launch your own 312 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 7: initiative to do that. 313 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: This is not a bad idea. 314 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 4: Buck. 315 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: Would you take this test? 316 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 3: Would you sit that ninety minute American History seventeen seventy 317 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: six tests? 318 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: I think I would take it. 319 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: It would be you and me, You and me versus 320 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: Don Lemon and uh we. 321 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: Would I would. 322 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: I would put you and I on the seventeen seventy 323 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: six test as a team up against any duo in 324 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: media in the country. 325 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: I think we would win. Do you think anybody could 326 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 2: be guessed that actually has. 327 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: A daily show or my normal humility Secretary of McMahon 328 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: disappears on this one. Clay and I would smoke any 329 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: of the libs out I think so, yeah, it would be. 330 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 7: It would be the Clay and Buck civics challenge. 331 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: I like this, This would be fun. 332 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: I don't think anybody would act taking us on, but 333 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: I will take it. Secretary mcnam We will reach out 334 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 3: for you and see if we can set up a 335 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: time to take this and see if we can smoke 336 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: everybody out there. I also want to ask you, as 337 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: you're as you're running a very large, very large agency 338 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 3: of the of the government, what are you doing with 339 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: education these days? A big thing, It's massive, it's huge, Secretary, 340 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 3: how are you going to fix education in America under 341 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 3: the Trump administration? 342 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 7: Well, you know, the President's executive order is to return 343 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 7: education to the States and take bureaucracy that exists in 344 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 7: Washington out of our education process. So, in other words, 345 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 7: instead of you know, all of the money that is 346 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 7: appropriated by Congress flowing through the Department of Education and 347 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 7: into the States, which does create more regulation, more red tape, 348 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 7: et cetera. It is my goal to move the different 349 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 7: agencies or departments, if you will, within the Department of 350 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 7: Education to other agencies of the United States government, which 351 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 7: is where they existed before there was a department. You know, 352 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 7: if you guys, and I know you guys know this fact. 353 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 7: But the Department of Education was not established until nineteen 354 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 7: eighty and since that time, we spent three trillion dollars 355 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 7: on education, just throwing more money at the problem and 356 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 7: watched our national scores continue to decline. So we're clearly 357 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 7: doing something wrong. And the President believes, and I agree 358 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 7: with him, that the best education is that that's closest 359 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 7: to the child, that it is controlled by the state 360 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 7: superintendents and district superintendents and teachers and most importantly parents 361 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 7: who have been insight into what is being taught to 362 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 7: their children. So the dismantling, if you will, of the 363 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 7: Department and moving it to other agencies will make it 364 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 7: more efficient. And I do believe that there'll be greater 365 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 7: satisfaction with what's going to be happening with education once 366 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 7: this job is completed. 367 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 3: One of the things that I think is most interesting 368 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 3: and maybe extraordinary when it comes to educational accomplishment is 369 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 3: what the state of Mississippi has done. They and I 370 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: know you probably have studied it quite a lot. I 371 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 3: don't think most of the audience out there has gotten 372 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 3: become aware of it. But basically they went back to 373 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 3: committing and you can maybe explain better than me, but 374 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: to old school style teaching and abandon many of the 375 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 3: quote unquote new fangled methods of instruction for children. And 376 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 3: as a result, the kids in Mississippi, many of whom 377 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 3: are drastically underprivileged, you know, relative to socioeconomic status in 378 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 3: the rest of the country, have seen their results skyrocket 379 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: and now other southern states in particular are copying them. 380 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 3: What are they doing. Are you encouraged by what you've 381 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 3: seen there? And is this a good example of the 382 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 3: laboratory of state at education giving us things that could work, 383 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 3: for instance in California where the results are not good. 384 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 7: You're exactly right in that this does prove the point 385 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 7: about states being the laboratories, because this is innovation that 386 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 7: occurred at the state level, not at the federal level level. 387 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 7: This was not mandated by the federal government, and what 388 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 7: the state of Mississippi did and it's actually called the 389 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 7: Mississippi Miracle. They adopted the science of reading, and it 390 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 7: is exactly what you said. It was going back to 391 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 7: the way reading was originally taught. Now, of course there 392 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 7: are some updates to the process, et cetera, but it's 393 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 7: based on phonics. It's based on sounding out words and 394 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 7: sounding out combinations of letters so that kids can learn 395 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 7: to read. They're not just doing site reading of whole 396 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 7: words or concepts, which is what's really been I think 397 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 7: the downfall of our literacy numbers throughout the country. And 398 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 7: if children cannot read by the time they finished the 399 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 7: third then they are never going to be able to 400 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 7: be successful because they'll just get farther and farther behind. 401 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 7: So the science of reading is it has been adopted, 402 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 7: has proven to be so successful. And sometimes this is 403 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 7: done in connection with what are called classical schools that 404 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 7: are doing exactly what you just Clay, I think it 405 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 7: was you what you were describing is going back to 406 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 7: sort of the way schools were taught, you know before. 407 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 7: Now that's working in many communities. Some communities you have 408 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 7: different kinds of schools. You know, they're charter schools, magnet schools, 409 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 7: they're religious schools, is homeschooling and so in micro schools. 410 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 7: And what I'm doing is touring all fifty states. I've 411 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 7: been to about thirty now, and I have visited all 412 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 7: of these many kinds of schools. I've even been to 413 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 7: the Alpha School in Austin, Texas, which has its first 414 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 7: two hours of instruction in the morning through AI, which 415 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 7: is really like in an individual tutoring session, and then 416 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,239 Speaker 7: the rest of the day are spent on applying the 417 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 7: applications of what they learned. So my goal at the 418 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 7: end of this term or is as we are turning 419 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 7: education back over to the states, is to develop a 420 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 7: toolkit of what has worked in most of these states 421 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 7: and to just hand it over to the different states 422 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 7: and say, look, these are the things that i've seen 423 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 7: that work, this is how they work, this is who's 424 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 7: doing it. Please be in contact with them if you 425 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 7: so choose. And you know what, governors and the state superintendents, 426 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 7: they're pretty competitive. No governor likes to see another state 427 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 7: get ahead of them, you know, in terms of the 428 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 7: success especially you know with kids and education. So I 429 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 7: think we're going to have a good impact. The beneficiaries 430 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 7: of what we're doing will be our children and schools, 431 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 7: you know, in general, and I'm very excited about what 432 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 7: we're doing. 433 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: Secretary of Education Lenny McMahon with US now and Secretary. 434 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: When we saw the Minneapolis ice protests, there was all 435 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: this school closures, administrative and teaching staff going out to protest. 436 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: Why is it that this just happens and there seems 437 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: to be some acceptance that the school system is like 438 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: the protest shock troops of the far left in this country. 439 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 7: Well, I can tell you, you know, if you just 440 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 7: look at those protests from a common sense standpoint, and 441 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 7: I am a parent, if I were there now, I 442 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 7: can't stand in the shoes of the parents who were there, 443 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 7: but I would think, why is my child not in 444 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 7: school that day? And if we look at what the 445 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 7: schoores are, you know in Minnesota, they're not sterling at all. 446 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 7: If you will, I would want my children to be 447 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 7: in school, learning how to read, how to do math, 448 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 7: how to solve their science problems, and not out on 449 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 7: the street in a bitter cold protesting and objecting to 450 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 7: something that they might not even fully understand. I think 451 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 7: it's outrageous and if that were to continue, I can 452 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 7: tell you that there would be investigation by US, and 453 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 7: those schools could be in jeopardy of having lost that 454 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 7: will funding. 455 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 3: Secretary of Education Linda McMahon one more time, I'm going 456 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 3: to try. Maybe you can have somebody on your team 457 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 3: reach out. I would like to take this test and 458 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: see how I would do. But we encourage so many 459 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 3: people out there with kids and grandkids that are committed 460 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: to history and want to learn more on the two 461 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 3: hundred and fiftieth anniversary of this country to compete. That 462 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: competition has an incredible award, as you just told us, 463 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 3: How can they do that one more time? 464 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 7: Well, the enrollment period is now through February twenty. First, 465 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 7: about a couple of more weeks. You can go online 466 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 7: at Presidential seventeen seventy six Award dot org to register, awesome, 467 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 7: and then shortly thereafter they'll be taking the test and 468 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 7: it will be a ninety minute test to see how 469 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 7: many four thousand questions they can answer correctly. And these 470 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 7: are just historical fact questions. 471 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 4: You know. 472 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 7: This is if anybody has any concerns that they're partisan politics, 473 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 7: that they are not at all. This is just based 474 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 7: on facts. 475 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: In history, Awesome. 476 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Secretary of Education mcmahn appreciate you making the time for 477 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: us today. 478 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 479 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 7: Lots of fun, thanks for your desire to participate. We're 480 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 7: going to make this happen. 481 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 4: Clay, I'm in. 482 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to Kay. 483 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: All right, my man, he's gonna swim from Alcatraz Island. 484 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: He's gonna take the impossible history tests. 485 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 3: You know. 486 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: We got to get Clay jumping out of planes for 487 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: our YouTube channel soon. 488 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: I haven't taken a history test, I don't think buck 489 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 3: since the ap Us History test back in nineteen ninety seven. 490 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 3: So we'll see whether the old brain can retain in 491 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 3: of the of the knowledge from the test back in 492 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: the day. 493 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: Brighten the winter doldrums by ordering something special for your home. 494 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: Your family's gonna love it. 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By 511 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: the way, we're going to talk to our buddy Jesse 512 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: Kelly at the top of the third hour. Grand jury 513 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: has refused to indict Democrats. We've talked about this in Washington. 514 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 8: D C. 515 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: And that is the advantage that Democrats have. They basically 516 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: have a kangaroo court in Washington, D C. Which is 517 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: ninety five percent Democrats, and they regularly get better treatment 518 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: than Republicans will. But this story I thought deserved way 519 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: more attention because unfortunately it is continuing the acceleration of 520 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 3: extremely violent acts by people who are trans. We had 521 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: Minneapolis the church that was shot up by a trans individual, 522 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: We had Nashville the religious school that was shot up 523 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: by a trans individual, and we now have had, unfortunately 524 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 3: in the British Columbia province in Canada, ten different people, 525 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 3: including the shooter himself who committed suicide. I think it 526 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 3: was a hymn right that identified as a girl, and 527 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 3: nobody will really have the conversation, Wait a minute, what's 528 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 3: going on here? To what extent are all of these 529 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: drugs that these people are being pumped full of the 530 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: rate of trans violence is off the charts. That doesn't 531 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: even include the shooting of Charlie Kirk, which allegedly happened 532 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: by someone who was dating a trans person and was 533 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 3: offended by Charlie Kirk's perspective on trans people. That trial 534 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: is scheduled to occur this year at some point. But 535 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: listen to how even the media is covering this. Cut eight, 536 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: a Canadian journalist says that the shooter was a hymn. 537 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: Right, Am I correct? 538 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 3: In this book, this is a dude that identified as 539 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: a girl, that was trying to flip to become a girl, 540 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: and he ide'd as a girl. This is a boy 541 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: and was clearly mentally unstable. But this is what it 542 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: sounded like when they were trying to figure out, Hey, 543 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 3: what do we even call this person? 544 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: Cut eight officer some blis. 545 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 7: Could you please. 546 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 4: Spound a little bit on the suspect. 547 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 5: Was he known to police? 548 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: We are any red flags regarding. 549 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: His mental health? 550 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 9: So suspect is identified as an eighteen year old female 551 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 9: by the name of Jesse. We have a history of 552 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 9: police attendants at the family residence. Some of those calls 553 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 9: are are were pardon me related to mental health issues? 554 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 3: Okay, if you had trouble hearing that a little bit 555 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: that The actual journalist says that this is a guy, 556 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 3: which is biologically accurate. 557 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 2: Who did the shooting? 558 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 3: And then the police, the deputy commissioner there of the 559 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 3: police department, says, actually, no, the shooter was female. 560 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: So he corrects the reporter, who, to. 561 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: Her credit, I think it was a woman speaking, was 562 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: actually correct that this was a male shooter. 563 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 2: It's a guy. 564 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: It's a guy who just committed a mass murderer, and 565 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: it's a man by it's eighteen year old. Okay, so 566 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: this is a this is a man, a young man 567 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: who decided that he had girl pronouns, which is wrong, 568 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: not true. It's a guy and went in and shot 569 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of people and then he killed, let 570 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: me see, killed a twelve year old boy, a thirteen 571 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: year old boy, a thirty nine year old teacher, shot 572 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: all these people. At what point do we as a 573 00:32:54,600 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: society have a conversation about the extreme mental illness is 574 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 1: behind transgenderism and the fact that it should be and 575 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: has always been treated as a mental illness that deserves 576 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: and necessitates support and mental health intervention instead of people 577 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: playcating and playing along. That's one part of this. The 578 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: other part of this is you were in a real 579 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: dystopian situation when the cops are lying to you about 580 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: who does a mass murder that Royal Canadian Mounted Police 581 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: guy A. I mean, you know, I know, Canada, it's 582 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: become so left wing, it's become so crazy over there 583 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: in so many ways. That guy saying that this is 584 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: a woman, a female, is actually what he says. He's lying, Yes, 585 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: he's just lying. Ever, I mean, this would be like saying, 586 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: hold on a second, the guy who did this, you know, 587 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: if a if a you know, a white kid went 588 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: into a school and shot up a bunch of kids, 589 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: and you stopped during press comes and hold on a second. 590 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: He was black. Everybody would say, you're a crazy person. No, 591 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: ye like it, and vice versa. I'm just saying, if 592 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: you describe the race of the assailant clearly incorrectly, people 593 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: would think, like, there's something wrong with you. This was 594 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: not a woman. This was a man. This was a 595 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: guy with a penis who went in, who was crazy, 596 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: who was clearly very mentally ill. But on the internet 597 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: and on TikTok and whatever, there's all these people telling them, oh, 598 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: you you're actually a girl. Oh and then, by the way, 599 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: all the people that don't affirm that you're a girl, 600 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: they want to erase you. They're committing a genocide against you. 601 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: They're the bad people. It's a crazy crap leads to 602 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: violence everybody. Enough is enough. 603 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 3: And by the way, if you're out there and you're saying, okay, 604 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 3: maybe this poor police officer is just fumbling around, he 605 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 3: doesn't know exactly what he's doing. No, he says, they're 606 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 3: respecting the preferred gender pronouns of the school shooting suspect. 607 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 3: Before we play this cut. This is cut nine he's 608 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 3: a mass murderer. Should we respect him in any way 609 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 3: for anything? My argument would be no, he's trash, he 610 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 3: is evil, and we have allowed him to be mentally 611 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 3: deranged and coddled in some way his mental derangement. And 612 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 3: again I don't think it's coincidental Minneapolis, Nashville, now in 613 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 3: Canada mass shooting's going on because not only have we 614 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 3: coddled these people and told them, oh, whatever gender you are, 615 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 3: you're actually correct, but worse than that, to Buck's point, 616 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 3: we have convinced them that anybody who says that's not 617 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: true is committing a genocide against you. So you have 618 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 3: mentally unstable people that are convinced that if they aren't 619 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 3: affirmed in their gender, that's a genocide being committed, and 620 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 3: so they go out and start trying to kill people. Unfortunately, 621 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 3: this is becoming far too common. 622 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 2: Cut nine, we're not hiding it. 623 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 9: In fact, you're the first media to ask the question. 624 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 9: I will say this, we identify the suspect as they 625 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 9: chose to be identified in public and in social media. 626 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 9: I can say that Jesse was born as a biological 627 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 9: male who approximately in the information that I have, approximately 628 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 9: six years ago, began to transition to female and identified 629 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 9: as female both socially and publicly. 630 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 2: This is crazy, I mean, this is I mean. 631 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: Imagine, imagine if after, you know, like one of bin 632 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: Laden's Al Qaeda guys went in and blew up a 633 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: plane or something, Imagine the FBI saying, hold on, hold 634 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: on a second, hold on a second. Everybody, he preferred 635 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: to be called shaik Osama, you. 636 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. 637 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: Like, I don't think that you need to be weighing 638 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: in with the wishes of the mass murderer right now. 639 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's something that the police should 640 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: be so concerned with her. It just shows you the 641 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 1: grip of psychosis, manufacturing delusion everybody. Here's the book. There's 642 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: a whole chapter on this. It's called ment to Side. 643 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: It goes back to World War Two, it goes back 644 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: to breaking people down into authoritarian regimes. Part of it 645 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: is get them to say that we don't know what 646 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: a penis is, we don't know what a vagina is, 647 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: we can't tell anything. We're all so dumb. Please get 648 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: your copy of the book. It comes out on Tuesday. 649 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: If you buy it today, it'll be there waiting for 650 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: you on Tuesday. When it comes out. This is a 651 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: whole chapter in the book, though, And I had to 652 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: write about this, and people told me, by the way, 653 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: writing about this transgender stuff, Clay, I mean, I hate 654 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: to bring up it. 655 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: Look what happened to Charlie. 656 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: We're talking about this stuff. I mean, you you're facing 657 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: down the most insane part of the left these days, 658 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: and in some ways the most violent and the most 659 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: you know, the craziest, and you just got to do it. 660 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: Just there's the reason why they're all in on this. 661 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 3: If I started to identify myself as a black female, 662 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 3: it would be racist of me to call myself black, 663 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 3: because we saw that happen with Rachel Dolozol, the white 664 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 3: chick pretending that she was black as ahead of the 665 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 3: NAACP back in Spokane, Washington. It's super racist for me 666 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 3: to identify as black. But you would have to accept 667 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 3: the fact that I'm female. This is Democrat Party orthodoxy 668 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 3: right now. If I said, hey, I've decided from now 669 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 3: on I want to be a black female, the Democrat 670 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 3: Party would have to say, oh my god, that's super racist. 671 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 2: But it's great that you're now a woman. 672 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 3: Which do you think is a crazier transition, which do 673 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 3: you think is a more substantial leap me changing my 674 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 3: race femle find out, by the way, all the time 675 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 3: that they're not the race they thought they were, or 676 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 3: me changing my gender. Everybody out there knows it's gender. 677 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 3: I have more in common as a dude with black, white, 678 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 3: Asian and Hispanic guys than. 679 00:38:59,080 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: I do with women. 680 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 3: But the Democrat Party orthodoxy is they would have to say, congratulations, 681 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 3: you're now a woman, but simultaneously they'd have to tell 682 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 3: me it's racist for me to claim to be a 683 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 3: black woman. It's bonkers and buck this I think does 684 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 3: matter People out there and say, well, why does this matter? 685 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,720 Speaker 3: How Let's pretend this person was actually on the loose 686 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 3: and they were asking for help. 687 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,479 Speaker 2: Do you describe him as a. 688 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 3: Dude, which he is, or do you say we're gonna 689 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 3: accept his preferred pronouns? 690 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 2: This is a woman on the loose. I mean, all 691 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 2: of this is crazy. 692 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 3: And the fact that you would be concerned with what 693 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 3: someone who committed a mass shooting thought about you or 694 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 3: not respecting their pronouns enough, I just what we should 695 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 3: be having a conversation about. Is this to what extent 696 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 3: do all of these drugs that these trans people are 697 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 3: loaded with, buck to what extent does that accelerate their 698 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 3: mental degradation and make them more prone to violence? That's 699 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 3: a real question we should be asking. We talked about 700 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 3: this for twelve and thirteen year olds. The data reflects 701 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 3: that their bones don't develop fully when they start getting 702 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 3: these trans treatments. That's a big deal, not to mention sterilization, 703 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 3: but what does it do to adults? Does it make 704 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 3: trans people more prone to violence? I don't think it's 705 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 3: crazy to say the trans community is tiny, and we 706 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 3: now have three mass shootings basically in the last year 707 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 3: and a half that have been propagated by trans people 708 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 3: who were on drugs and or being treated for trans 709 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 3: related issues. Shouldn't we be asking what is the impact 710 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 3: of the drugs that were pumping into their system and 711 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 3: does that make them more prone to violence? To say 712 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 3: nothing of the fact that certainly telling them that people 713 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 3: who disrespect your preferred pronouns are committing genocide against you, 714 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,720 Speaker 3: that certainly accelerates I would think the justification of violence. 715 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: Also, we just need to figure out whether as a 716 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: society we really have a choice, Clay, we can have 717 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: these things happen, or you can have people more readily 718 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,439 Speaker 1: involuntarily committed for a period of time. To be clear, 719 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that all trans people should be committed, 720 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: but this individual, I think they should get mental mental 721 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: health assistants. But a lot of people, you know, veterans 722 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: come back with PTSD, they get mental health assistants. Mental 723 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: health assistants is something that shouldn't be stigmatized and people 724 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: should have ready access to. But this person, when the 725 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: police are coming to your home, and by the way, 726 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: this trans shooter killed his mom and brother as well, 727 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: or sister killed the mother and sibling as well before 728 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: went to the school, so killed his own family. This guy, 729 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: his eighteen year old killed his own family members and 730 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 1: then went to the school. So this is somebody. They 731 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: all the signed, the cops are gone to the house, 732 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: all the signs were there. I bet if you looked 733 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: up the laws in British Columbia about or you know, 734 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: for Canadian federal law or whatever they call it, getting 735 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: this person to be put put into a psychiatric facility 736 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: until there was a real effort to bring them into reality, 737 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: I bet it's almost impossible. It's basically impossible in America. Fuck. 738 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 3: You know, we talked about the filters and how they 739 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 3: tried to make Alex Prettie look better in MSNBC of 740 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 3: Canadian media are using AI filters to try to make 741 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 3: the shooter look more female. Of course, yeah, I mean 742 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 3: this is utterly insane, utterly. 743 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: Like on all levels. I wouldn't get into it with 744 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: a very prominent podcaster. I got into an argument over 745 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: dinner once he said. He said, but you can't tell 746 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: the difference with the trends, and I was like, no, man, 747 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: I can always tell the difference. Like I'm not. We're 748 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: not doing this thing where I can't tell. Can you 749 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: tell the difference in a photo't necessarily no? In person 750 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: when they're like Hi, you know, yeah, I could tell 751 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: the difference. 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Learn 770 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: more about both at Chalk dot com. That choq dot com. 771 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,439 Speaker 1: When you subscribe with my name Buck is your promo code. 772 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,959 Speaker 1: Chocolate pack a free ninety nine dollars bag of Chalk 773 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: litpowder with your first delivery. That's choq dot com. Use 774 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: my name Buck as your promo code. Jesse Kelly joins us. 775 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: He is the host of The Jesse Kelly Show, syndicated 776 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 1: by Premiere Networks. In the evenings. He has a new 777 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 1: book out, Jesse's Little Red Book, which we'll be talking 778 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 1: about here in a second, and he is America's tallest 779 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: radio host according to the Guinness Book of World Records. 780 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: So Jesse, welcome. 781 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 8: Well, I'm just happy I can finally bring some talent 782 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 8: to the airwaves here Buck, and I do have to 783 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 8: ask before we get going. 784 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 4: What did you do to your hair? Buck? 785 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 3: I love the mustache, avoided all all tacks. 786 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 2: You know I pointed this out. Did you get a 787 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 2: new take on this? 788 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 3: Because Buck has been getting the same haircut as like 789 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 3: twenty year old's in Miami. 790 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, so this is I go to a barber 791 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,919 Speaker 1: shop with some wonderful Cuban Americans who speak very limited English, 792 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: and you are seeing the end product of that here. 793 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 2: But I will have you. 794 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: Know that Clay's teenage sons in shock referred to this 795 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: haircut as cool. 796 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 4: Yes, but have you seen Clay's mustache? 797 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 8: I mean, with all due respect, are we going with 798 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,760 Speaker 8: Clay's brud's opinion here? 799 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 3: How about you opening with no hair coming after Buck 800 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 3: for a haircut like that is just an unprecedented attack 801 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 3: from you. That's like Iran coming into the negotiations with Trump, 802 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 3: and you know you obliterate Washington Dclay Clay. 803 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: Wanted to read an email that you posted from one 804 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,240 Speaker 1: of your fans on air on this show. 805 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, Jesse. I was like, no, 806 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 2: Jesse's our friend. That's not you know what, Clay, go ahead, 807 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 2: let's start anymore. Let's start off because you want to 808 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 2: throw stones. 809 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 3: Let's make sure I grabbed it here because I was 810 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,240 Speaker 3: laughing during the commercial break. 811 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 2: This is an. 812 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 3: Email Jesse is on many of these same stations in 813 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 3: the evening. The subject is gay boy, which, by the way, 814 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 3: I'm sure got flagged because you and mayor Pete are 815 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 3: emailing so frequently with each other. 816 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,720 Speaker 2: Jesse. Yeah, I think that's what you call each other, right, Jesse? 817 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,240 Speaker 3: You say you had an ice water at the Super 818 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 3: Bowl party? How many fruit wedges did you throw in 819 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 3: that water? Was any cucumber involved? People are concerned your 820 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 3: gayness is bleeding over into the NFL. Just go watch 821 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 3: the halftime show. Why are you so gay? It's okay 822 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 3: to use my name erin so you know, there's a 823 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 3: lot of Super Bowl talk. Why Aaron wants to know? 824 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 3: Why are you so gay? Would you like to apologize 825 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 3: to America for drinking in ice water at the Super 826 00:46:58,600 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 3: Bowl party? 827 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 5: No? 828 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 4: I would not like to apologize and let me explain. 829 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 4: It was not my party and I didn't care about 830 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. 831 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 8: I haven't watched the NFL in years because of all 832 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 8: the Black Lives Matter stuff. I went from being an 833 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 8: NFL super fan do I never watch it. I went 834 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 8: to a neighborhood party because my neighbor who barbecues and 835 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 8: he smokes all these delicious meats. He had smoked chicken wings. Anyway, 836 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 8: the fellas and ladies were getting together. Of course, the 837 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 8: lady stayed in side there too, annoying, and the guys 838 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 8: went out back and we ate meats. 839 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 4: I did not go for the game. I didn't care 840 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 4: about the game. I left at halftime after. 841 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 8: I made everybody turn off the Bad Bunny a halftime 842 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 8: show and turn on the other one. Then I made 843 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 8: it halfway through that and I left at halftime. I 844 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 8: was there to hang with the fellas for a little 845 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 8: bit and. 846 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 4: Have some meats. The super Bowl is on a Sunday. 847 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 8: I am forty four, not twenty four years old anymore. 848 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 8: I try to limit my alcoholic beverages period, let alone 849 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,799 Speaker 8: on a Sunday night when I have to work the 850 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 8: next day. So I yes, I had ice water, and 851 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 8: I had to tell everyone there I had ice water, 852 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 8: and I had to catch crap from them, and then 853 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 8: I had to catch crap from my listeners. 854 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,399 Speaker 4: And now I'm getting it from you guys. What's wrong 855 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 4: with ice water? I like ice water. 856 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 2: Wells. There were cucumber wedges in the ice water too, 857 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 2: I know. 858 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 3: I just remember you coming after me for Brussels sprouts, 859 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 3: and I think if you were trying to assess masculinity 860 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 3: Brussels sprouts for the table versus cucumber wedged ice water 861 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,919 Speaker 3: at a Super Bowl party, I just think that I'm 862 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 3: the more masculine choice here. 863 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 8: Well, if I have to be honest, I didn't advertise 864 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 8: it was ice water because I had one of those big, big, 865 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 8: I forget what brand. 866 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 4: It was one of the big insulated mugs with the 867 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 4: lid on it. 868 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 8: So if you looked and I walked in with it, 869 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 8: you probably you're like. 870 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 3: Wow, you're just carrying around your own water. Now, this 871 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 3: is what chicks do. Now your Stanley cup though, No. 872 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 8: I like the water to stay cold. I have an 873 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 8: ice machine. I don't like to rub my wealth in 874 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 8: anyone's face, but I have an ice machine. 875 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 4: It makes endless amounts of. 876 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 8: Ice, and so I spend my days drinking icy cold 877 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 8: water as if I'm on an Arctic expedition. 878 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: Tell us about I'm going to save you here, Jesse, 879 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to pull you out of the Arctic icy 880 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 1: waters here for a second, like a polar bear grabbing 881 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: a seal. Tell me the Little Red Book. This is 882 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: available at Jesse Kelly dot com right now. What is this. 883 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 4: Okay? 884 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 8: First of all, it's free. I need to stress this. 885 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 8: It's free. It's not a gimmick or a scam. 886 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 4: I wrote everyone. 887 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 8: I wrote the Anti Communist Manifesto what was out a 888 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 8: couple of years ago. 889 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 4: I'm not an author. I don't want to ever want 890 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 4: to write another book again. 891 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 8: And I didn't want to write another book, but I 892 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,360 Speaker 8: had some extra thoughts, like I wanted to put an 893 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 8: extra chapter in it basically. But then as I was 894 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 8: sitting down and I was hashing it out, it it 895 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 8: turned into I think it's ninety three pages, which is 896 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 8: more than an extra chapter. 897 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 4: And I thought, well, how do I even get to people. 898 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 4: I don't want to put it in hardback. 899 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 8: Why don't I just email it to everybody? So we 900 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 8: came up with the idea. Let's just write it. It's 901 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 8: a little booklet on you know, my thoughts on the Democrats, 902 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,240 Speaker 8: Republicans culture, I even have food thoughts and there whatever. 903 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,240 Speaker 8: Just a little booklet that's obviously a riff on Mao's 904 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 8: Little Red Book which he used to slaughter all kinds 905 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 8: of people in China. 906 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,280 Speaker 4: No one will be slaughtered after my little Red Book. 907 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 4: It's just little food. 908 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,800 Speaker 8: For thought items about where we're at as a country. 909 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 8: And it's free. We just put in your email address 910 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 8: at Jesse Kelly dot com and we email it to you. 911 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 4: That's what it is. 912 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,280 Speaker 2: That's a pretty cool idea. 913 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 3: So I would encourage people to to potentially check this 914 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 3: out if you're into gay authors, which you know, it's. 915 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 2: An important, important moment to honor you. 916 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 3: I know it's Black History Month, but you know Gay 917 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 3: Author Month is coming up soon, I'm sure, and it's 918 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 3: an esteemed accomplishment. 919 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,839 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. So this is. 920 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 3: All like prelude to you can chew to join me 921 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 3: in right now. People are coming after me like crazy. 922 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 3: Or you could say, you know what, Clay, that's you 923 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 3: on an island and it's an interesting island because I 924 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 3: watched yesterday Pam Bondi testify on Capitol Hill and she 925 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 3: was interrupted by so called And I say use the 926 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 3: phrase so called because these women are saying, hey, we 927 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 3: were abused by people other than Jeffrey Epstein. And they 928 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 3: continue to have all these press conferences, and they keep 929 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 3: showing up, and they were in the press conference and 930 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 3: they're in the back of the I mean, at the 931 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 3: at the jew at the hearing, They're in the back 932 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 3: of it. They're chanting, They're drawing attention to themselves. Where 933 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 3: what am I missing here? If you are a victim, 934 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 3: if somebody assaulted you, and yet that person is still 935 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,760 Speaker 3: alive and maybe they're still out there assaulting other people, 936 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 3: don't you have an actual obligation if you are doing 937 00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 3: all these press conferences, to actually make the public out delligation, 938 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,240 Speaker 3: file lawsuits, get investigations to occur. 939 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:05,959 Speaker 2: What am I missing here? 940 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,399 Speaker 3: At some point when you're showing up for all these 941 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 3: press conferences saying I'm a victim, I'm a survivor. Epstein 942 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 3: is dead, Jelaane Maxwell's in prison, They're saying there's other 943 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 3: people that abuse them. Don't they have an obligation morally 944 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 3: to actually tell us who these people are. 945 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just I'm fired up about it. 946 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 8: I don't disagree, but I think this Epstein stuff, it's 947 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 8: very similar to what the Me Too movement was like 948 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 8: that started out and it was a really good thing 949 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,760 Speaker 8: because women who had been abused by men felt comfortable 950 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,359 Speaker 8: coming forward and finally voicing it. And then it took 951 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 8: like five minutes for it to turn really scummy and scammy, 952 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 8: and very clearly. 953 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,879 Speaker 4: It was a money grab and. 954 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 8: He took me on on a bad date and he 955 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 8: ordered Brussels sprouts and now I'm mad at them. That 956 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 8: kind of a thing, And so I think the exact 957 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 8: same thing is taking place with Epstein, who was clearly 958 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 8: a creep and a monster, was surrounded by creeps and monsters, 959 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,439 Speaker 8: did all of creepy monstrous things, and I hope every 960 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:02,799 Speaker 8: one of. 961 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 4: Them gets thrown into prison. 962 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,240 Speaker 8: However, as soon as people start getting paid on this stuff, 963 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 8: start getting famous on this stuff, that is inevitably going 964 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 8: to invite scammers and scummy people too, who love to 965 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 8: give press conferences every other day and have their name 966 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 8: in sixty minutes. But at some point, if you're gonna 967 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 8: come out publicly and say I was abused, you have 968 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 8: to deliver the goods. I don't necessarily think you're crazy. Now, 969 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 8: if you want to stay quiet, I get that. I 970 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,359 Speaker 8: know a bunch of women who have sadly gone through 971 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 8: this kind of thing and they don't want to talk 972 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 8: about it. They don't feel comfortable talking about it. And 973 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 8: that's not my place to tell anyone to talk about it. 974 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 8: But if you're on your twentieth press conference talking about 975 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 8: the powerful men who've abused you, and it's the twentieth 976 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 8: time you haven't named a single name, I'm sorry. 977 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 4: I need to hear some names now. I want to 978 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:48,879 Speaker 4: hear some names. 979 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 8: I want to know which of the powerful people in 980 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 8: our society are freaking monstrous predators. 981 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 4: Praying on women. You've teased me at this point in time. 982 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,359 Speaker 2: Now you got to deliver more. 983 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 3: If they truly are out there and they did it 984 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,760 Speaker 3: to you, they're likely doing it to other people. 985 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 2: So to me, the moral obligation. 986 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 3: People say, oh, there's an NBA, they got paid one 987 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 3: hundred million dollars. 988 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:11,320 Speaker 2: They can't talk. 989 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:16,359 Speaker 3: This is BS likeein the Epstein estate is not suing you. 990 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 3: I've been through some of these cases before with representing 991 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 3: women and representing people in situations like these. You I 992 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 3: just I'm fired up about it. Okay, where are we, 993 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 3: Jesse year two? As we are now? You know you've 994 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 3: got a primary. You live in Texas, you got a 995 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 3: primary in what two and a half weeks? Whatever it's 996 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 3: going to be. What do you expect in twenty six. 997 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 8: I expect that we will lose the House of Representatives 998 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,280 Speaker 8: and keep the Senate. I think that's a reasonable expectation. 999 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 8: How bad that loss is remains to be seen. If 1000 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 8: we fight tooth and nail, we might lose it by 1001 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 8: a little. If this economy does not come back for 1002 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 8: most people, then we're probably going to lose it by 1003 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 8: a lot. And Trump's going to be impeached every other 1004 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 8: day in the House, and it's going to be a 1005 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 8: miserable last two years of his presidency. I think it's 1006 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 8: all going to depend on the economy. Those US political 1007 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 8: people ever been listening right now? We know all the 1008 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 8: ins and outs, we know all the issues. But the 1009 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 8: normanis who decide elections don't vote on that. They vote 1010 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 8: on can they afford chicken? Can they afford a plane 1011 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,439 Speaker 8: ticket to go see their mother? Is the economy back 1012 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 8: for them. Selling them on another big trade deal does 1013 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 8: not do anything for the normies out there. They have 1014 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 8: to feel it in their pocketbook. Are they feeling it? 1015 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. They better be feeling it by election time. 1016 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 1: But we're in trouble, Jesse. Putting you back on the 1017 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,320 Speaker 1: hot seat here for a second. What would you say 1018 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 1: to a full grown man with a mustache who lives 1019 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 1: in the Nashville area who makes the claim that Taylor 1020 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 1: Swift is on her way to being the twenty first 1021 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,840 Speaker 1: century version of the beatles. 1022 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 4: Man. That is just so sad. 1023 00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 8: If I had a moment you're looking, if I could, 1024 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 8: if I could talk to that guy, if I had him, 1025 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 8: If I had a chance to talk to that guy, 1026 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 8: I really want to. I mean, I'd almost want to 1027 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 8: figure out is he hurt? Is there something wrong inside? 1028 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 8: Is there something going on in his life that we 1029 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 8: need to find out about? 1030 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 4: Can we get him help? 1031 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 8: I have a heart for people, Buck, If I met 1032 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 8: somebody that broken and wrong, I would want to find 1033 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 8: out is it rehab? 1034 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 4: Look, I'll pitch in some money, Buck. I know you 1035 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 4: will too. Play You probably would too if you met 1036 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 4: anybody that unbelievably deranged. 1037 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 3: She is an absolute icon, and long after three of 1038 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 3: us are gone, her music is going to echo throughout 1039 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 3: bringing everyone together. 1040 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 2: Go to Jesse Kelly. 1041 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 3: Called Kay for drinking ice water at a super Bowl party. 1042 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 3: You didn't drink ice water after you ran a half marathon. 1043 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 3: You drink ice water at a super Bowl party. While 1044 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,240 Speaker 3: I might mention hanging out with guys and pounding meats 1045 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 3: on the patio, I think you're phrasing. He's going to 1046 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 3: be voting for mayor Pete in every election for the 1047 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 3: rest of his life. He's Jesse Kelly. Make sure that 1048 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,320 Speaker 3: you go subscribe to his podcast, check out his new book, 1049 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:15,799 Speaker 3: and you can listen to him on many of these 1050 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 3: same stations in the evenings. 1051 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 2: Jesse, thank you, good see you boys. 1052 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 3: Through the tunnel that to Hours Foundation, you can honor 1053 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 3: the courage and sacrifice of our nation's greatest heroes, first 1054 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 3: responders and military heroes like United States Army Lieutenant Colonel 1055 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 3: Christy Rabits. 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