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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to our number two of the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and it is time met today for the

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Football Focus. All right, and I'm looking here at

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Speaker 2: some stuff on the Pro Football Focus. They get their

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four bounce back candidates. There's a step Steeler

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Speaker 2: on this list.

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Speaker 3: This is all fantasy related, them all fantasy or anything.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So number one on their list is Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: with the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Yes, However, the again, I'm not deep deep into fantasy yet.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm it's starting to really get to be

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Speaker 3: fantasy's season. But Burrow and Stroud are two that I

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Speaker 3: don't think I'll end up having very often. I Mean,

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Speaker 3: they're both going like top six or seven quarterbacks and

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Speaker 3: they're great players, but they don't run.

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Speaker 2: They're better in real life than the fans.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, Like, give me a guy that runs more

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Speaker 3: and can generate, you know, some rushing touchdowns, and Burrow's

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Speaker 3: durability scares me. I mean, I think he's great when

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Speaker 3: he's out there, and it'll be great for Chase and

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Speaker 3: Higgins and all those guys them.

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Speaker 2: He's got great weapons. Yeah, and their defense, as you

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Speaker 2: mentioned in the previous segment, was not good last year. No, right, right,

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Speaker 2: and they didn't do any much to get better.

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Speaker 3: No. No. So Herbert's another one. I'm not sure I'll

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Speaker 3: be drafting a ton He runs a little more than them,

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Speaker 3: but his weapons stink.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to touch Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at all three of them I think I'll end

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Speaker 3: up with. But I'd love him to be the Steeters quarterback.

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Speaker 3: You great players.

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Speaker 2: Number two on this list is Tony Paul moving over

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Speaker 2: to the Tennessee Titans. I'm not buying on that one.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a little older than you think. I

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Speaker 3: think he's twenty seven or twenty eight eight, which is

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Speaker 3: always the fall off a cliff time for running back.

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Speaker 2: He's kind of redundant with what they've already got there.

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Speaker 3: I think I think I owned Spears a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think I owned Pollard hardly at all.

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Speaker 3: He did. I know there was an interview with him,

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Speaker 3: like very late in the season because his last couple

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Speaker 3: of games he started to look like the real Tony

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Speaker 3: Pollard and he basically said, I'm finally feeling good. That's great,

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Speaker 3: but you're two hundred pounds in, you're twenty seven or

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Speaker 3: twenty eight, and you might not be the best back

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Speaker 3: on your team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I will say this to wear and tear

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Speaker 2: on him has not been.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: He's he got the chance to be this the guy

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Speaker 2: last year and failed every other year before that.

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Speaker 3: He was.

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Speaker 2: He was a card time. Yeah, he was a complimentary

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Speaker 2: back and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he wouldn't have been somebody I spent waiting on

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Speaker 3: either in the real world.

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Speaker 2: Number three on this list is Aaron Jones with the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he was bad last year, though he's

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Speaker 2: older than when he played. Well, yeah, that was the problem,

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Speaker 2: the injuries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I read something yesterday that O'Connell, their head coach, said,

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Speaker 3: we're really happy with the Jones. Ty Chandler won two

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Speaker 3: punch like Jones won't dominate all the touches. He really

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Speaker 3: hasn't done that for five years. He's really effective per touch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. In terms of points per game last

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Speaker 2: year he was RB twenty nine. Really the previous year

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Speaker 2: he was RB eleven. Okay, I think he probably settles

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say eleven is probably out of his reach.

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Speaker 3: But twenty nine, assuming he has a moderate amount of health,

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Speaker 3: doesn't sound crazy at all.

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Speaker 2: And that's in points per game, points per game, So

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Speaker 3: He is older than you think though. Yeah, he came

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Speaker 3: in that year with Connor.

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Speaker 2: And they drafted three running backs that year.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I guess they did. Huh, Jamal Williams. They

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Speaker 3: like to do that, they do do that, But he didn't.

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Speaker 3: He did not come out as an underclassman.

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Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson on this list. And he wasn't bad last

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he was great. I don't have any

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Speaker 2: Now top ten performer this year at the wide receiver

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's that's a hard list. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's a tough tough to get in. But yes, I

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Speaker 3: taking him early in the second round. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: sixteenth pick overall.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's where I took him last year, right,

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Speaker 2: But we thought he had Rodgers, and you know, as

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Speaker 2: soon as Rogers got hurt, I you know, I waited

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Speaker 2: for him to have a good game, and then I

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Speaker 2: traded him away. In the grand scheme of things, I

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Speaker 3: His just got peppered with targets that he didn't kill

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Speaker 2: He just wasn't the wide receiver one that I had

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Speaker 2: drafted him that beat.

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Speaker 3: They didn't score touchdowns. Yeah, I mean that's the problem.

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Speaker 3: And it's kind of like, I mean, they had no

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Speaker 2: Uh t Higgins on this list.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he would worry me to draft him

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Speaker 3: because if he's unhappy with this contract. We brought this

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Speaker 3: up several times even the last hour. Will he play

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Speaker 3: every game? He's got to be better on the field

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Speaker 3: than he was last year, though, like he was not himself.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, Matt, and we found this out

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Speaker 2: last year the hard way. If you if you drafted

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Speaker 2: if you drafted Higgins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: God, like they all had little bit of down years there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it just wasn't enough there to support. And it didn't

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Speaker 2: matter what the offense was. There wasn't enough there to

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Speaker 2: support two star receivers. Yea, even with the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was difficult for both guys to have

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Speaker 3: The high flying Dolphins offense, yeah, I mean they were

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Speaker 2: I just think some of those guys got overdrafted a

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Speaker 2: year before that, they're gonna ge They're gonna be better

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Speaker 3: Like I could see the Packers and Texans and teams

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Speaker 3: like that getting guys overdrafted. Yeah. I love the players,

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Speaker 2: I think part of it is because teams are running

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Speaker 2: or four years ago effectively. Yeah, And so if you're

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Speaker 2: able to effectively run the football. You're not throwing as much,

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Speaker 3: I also think, as you were saying that, I was

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Speaker 3: thinking the league is taking away explosives so much that

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Speaker 3: they don't turn into eighty yarders like they used to.

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Speaker 3: And when you're weak, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's really different. I mean you find

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Speaker 2: it a little bit that second guy's just knuck easy.

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Speaker 2: The number one is getting eight targets per game and

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Speaker 3: If you don't maxim touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: If you don't maximize on those, you don't catch all

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Speaker 2: five or six of them. You know, three catches for

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Speaker 2: getting it done where you're drafting those guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure we'll have to think about some teams.

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Speaker 3: I guess Steel is a perfect example. I mean, when

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Speaker 3: little more? I think to do the Devonte Adams or

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Speaker 2: I think the guy, you know, because they're going to

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Speaker 2: get their ten targets a game. Yeah, they don't have

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Speaker 3: Much right now. I think it's something to think about it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, ever evolving fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Uh tight end Pat Fryarmuth. We've talked about this one.

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Speaker 2: I think Friar Moose I so last year in terms

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Speaker 2: of fantasy points for game Brutal, he was tight end thirty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, two good games, two good games.

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Speaker 2: The year before that, in twenty twenty two, he was

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Speaker 2: tight end ten. I think that's who he is as

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Speaker 2: I think he can be like tight end eight or seven.

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Speaker 2: I only think he gets the Laporta kincaid because there's

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Speaker 3: Tight ends a stronger position than Yeah, where I.

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Speaker 2: Was thinking maybe he could he could crack, he could

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Speaker 2: maybe be tight end five a couple of years ago. Well,

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Speaker 2: now you've seen some of these new young guys come

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Speaker 3: He'd have to be really fortunate with touchdowns, yeah, which

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Speaker 3: can happen to any titles, which he's done.

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Speaker 2: His rookie year when he had Ben Roethlisberger throwing him

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Speaker 2: the football, he scored touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: But I think, like fantasy wise, I'll have him tiered

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Speaker 3: with like Nijoku and Ingram who get a lot of passes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if you're going to play, if you're

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Speaker 2: you get one of those guys, you'll be perfectly fine.

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Speaker 3: It's much better than it used to be. Kelsey used

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Speaker 3: to go in the first round. Yeah, No one's gonna

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Speaker 3: tight ends a little more.

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Speaker 2: And I think for I mean, we just talked about

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Speaker 2: they're gonna give him a new contract this offseason. They're

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Speaker 2: not going to give him a new new contract to

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Speaker 2: not throw him the ball.

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Speaker 3: Right. So I've mentioned before, I'm in a bunch of

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Speaker 3: dyasty leagues. I'm in six dynasty leagues and we just fent.

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Speaker 3: All the rookie drafts have coming gone, and that's been

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Speaker 3: all a lot of tons of roster movement happened since

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Speaker 3: three of those six tinest leagues. I traded for Friarmuth.

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Speaker 3: I mean like, so you need to know folks, right right,

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Speaker 3: it's like we're talking trade. I'm like, I throw him in.

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Speaker 3: People look at him like he's a throw in. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: give me him all day long. Yeah, yeah, right, you.

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Speaker 2: Know because it I mean, at worst, if he does

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Speaker 2: You will either keep him and flip the guy that

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Speaker 3: Okay, this year, So folks, I know all you guys

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So their number one guy on here is T Higgins.

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Speaker 2: His drop rate in twenty twenty three was twelve point

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Speaker 3: Okay, I wonder if he didn't have the same range

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Speaker 2: He caught a career low fifty six point eight percent

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he in his career he's averaged seven point four.

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Speaker 3: He's a perfect example if he should probably regress positively. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, if drop rates should go down Nikua ten

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had thirteen drops last season, which led the league. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: Targets, So probably he will get better. That's that's a

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Speaker 3: tough one to say. That's a tough one because he's

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Speaker 3: Probably. I don't think he'll be on my team, but

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Speaker 3: Right like what we talked about Karat Wilson a little

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he's probably more like he llend up

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Speaker 2: and he's going to be board thing. He's going to

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Speaker 3: And the drop rate doesn't move the needle enough for me. No. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigbuck perfect example of that slot guy.

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Speaker 2: Uh, not the biggest guy. I liked the player, but

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Speaker 3: So we were talking breakout receivers this morning, and we

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Speaker 3: But I still worry. Is he better for real life

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: So he had eight drops last year, he had six

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Speaker 3: I mean, so I never thought it was an issue

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't think it was either.

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Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts is on here because he has no catchable targets.

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Speaker 2: Last year, his catchable target he was sixty nine point

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Speaker 3: That's horrific.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I means thirty one percent of the passes that

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Speaker 3: Right, And folks think about it this way. He's big,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So when people talk about Arthur Smith, well

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Speaker 3: All sends up in the seats. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Those two guys combined for one hundred and two catches

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Speaker 3: With a with average quarterback play, yeah, let alone jumping

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Speaker 2: I'm much more in board with it this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet he's like tight end five or six

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Speaker 2: I'll take him higher than that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, me too, me too. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson example, his catchable target eight was sixty seven,

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Speaker 3: Think of that. I mean that you're sitting there waiting

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Speaker 3: you know that's going I mean, that's gonna be. That's

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Speaker 2: George Pickens that adds up was also at sixty seven

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Speaker 3: Okay, so two fantasy Pickens news, they're nuggets. When he

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Speaker 3: When he played with Rudolph as a starter, he was

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Speaker 2: He had the best quarterback play last year.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so this year he loses Deontay and he gets

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Speaker 2: In this situation. And the crazy thing about it for him,

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Speaker 3: Right, that most wouldn't even got a finger on, right, And.

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Speaker 2: I did, yeah too.

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Speaker 3: So just four wide receivers in NFL history have posted

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Speaker 2: The way here's way too low. When this whole thing started,

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Speaker 3: If a Steiters add someone, you might be the time

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think he could be easily wide receiver

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if he scores ten plus touchdowns, he will.

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Speaker 3: Picking is much more dynamic. Yeah. Yeah. The non catchable

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Speaker 3: Doesn't shock me. You know how I get dorky with

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Speaker 3: was really good in that regard. Carolina was really good

441
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Speaker 3: in that, So that interesting to me. With Brooks or

442
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Speaker 3: maybe Trubo's is better than I thought.

443
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Speaker 2: Sakuon Barkley point nine yards before contact, Okay, and I'm blocking,

444
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 2: they didn't walk anybody. He's behind a much better offensive line.

445
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, with in Philadelphia, he's going in the first round,

446
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:57,600
Speaker 3: which I get.

447
00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with that.

448
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 3: I don't either. I mean, I think there'll be less

449
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 3: push pushing. Yeah, I think he'll catch balls. They gave

450
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Speaker 3: him money. I mean, that's the thing to me is

451
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 3: they gave him money on day one of free agency

452
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Speaker 3: behind a good O line.

453
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Speaker 2: Like, I think he'll be a twenty touch per game guy.

454
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 2: They were eighteen at the very least. And if you

455
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Speaker 2: get eighteen touches in today's game as a running back,

456
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Speaker 2: especially matter if you got some talent, yeah.

457
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Speaker 3: You're gonna you're gonna put up points. He's definitely one

458
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Speaker 3: of the most gifted running backs on the planet. Still. Yeah.

459
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Speaker 2: The next guy on the list is Nausee Harris surprise

460
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,200
Speaker 2: point nine to nine yards before contact, so he was

461
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Speaker 2: basically getting the ball getting a yard before contact. He

462
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 2: made a lot of stuff happen on his own time.

463
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Speaker 2: Last year z yep, because teams were loading.

464
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Speaker 3: Up in the you know, and this is probably true

465
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Speaker 3: for other teams, but there were certainly parts of the

466
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Speaker 3: season where they weren't blogging anybody. And then when the

467
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Speaker 3: running game started.

468
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 2: To roll early in the season, it was rough.

469
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Speaker 3: You're right, it got a lot better, you know. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's interesting.

471
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Speaker 2: Harris saw thirty seven point five five percent of his

472
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Speaker 2: rush attempts against eight plus defenders in the life.

473
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, also a lot of loaded boxes.

474
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Speaker 2: That's compared to Jalen Warren's twenty three point six percent,

475
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 2: because Warren was the third downback.

476
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 3: Course, we're playing against Nicols and dying.

477
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 2: So when people talk about it, it's not it really isn't.

478
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a that's a massive difference, a massive difference.

479
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 2: And even if Wilson can get people out of the box, yeah,

480
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 2: I mean that goes on, which he will because he

481
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 2: is a great deep ball yeah yeah.

482
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Speaker 3: Yeah. And frankly, they're not my I don't know, the

483
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,120
Speaker 3: most faith in the world in the Watson's and Watkins

484
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 3: and Mims and even Austin.

485
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Speaker 2: But they are fast, they are deep threats.

486
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Speaker 3: They are deep get guys out of the box by

487
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,719
Speaker 3: taking some chances. Yeah, I mean that could pay off

488
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 3: of the Nausees of the world.

489
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Speaker 2: So har have three point one yards per carry after contact.

490
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet that's top twelve or so. Yeah.

491
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 2: Uh and Jalen Warren was at two point seven percent,

492
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 2: So they both were good at getting yards after contact.

493
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Speaker 3: They both are pretty percentage of explosive runs overall ten

494
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Speaker 3: plus runs. And we know nause he's not going to

495
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 3: pad those stats with an eighty yard er, right, you know,

496
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 3: but he did consistent, he did break off.

497
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: More more than they ever have fifteen yarders last year.

498
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's trimmed down a little. Maybe we're gonna

499
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: see a little bit of that too.

500
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's just some of the guys there that

501
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Speaker 2: you're looking at in terms of, you know, the where

502
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Speaker 2: it's bound a regression back.

503
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 3: To the mean. Fantasy football is like gambling. I mean,

504
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 3: it's like should I hit on sixteen? Should I? You

505
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 3: know what, It's all probabilities. You don't know what's going

506
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 3: to happen on game day. There's a human factor, but

507
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 3: if you can at least play the odds that usually

508
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 3: when running backs are hit behind the line scrimmage this much,

509
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 3: they rebound the next year, or when there's a lot

510
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 3: of drops, it's the touchdowns are the obvious ones. I'm right.

511
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,959
Speaker 3: Touchdown regression candidates is a very real thing in fantasy.

512
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 3: It's not real hard to figure out.

513
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was a bounce back candidates and those

514
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Speaker 2: regression candidates for twenty two, twenty four and interesting at

515
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Speaker 2: three Steelers on their Steelers.

516
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that makes sense. It's kind of an odd

517
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 3: offense compared to the rest of the league.

518
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Speaker 2: It really is. We're gonna get to a break. That's

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Speaker 2: gonna do it for the fantasy football focus. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back

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Speaker 2: with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and GOLDNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. He is Matt Williamson. I am

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Speaker 2: Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio. Matt. Last week we looked at this from

529
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Speaker 2: a different perspective, Kevin Patra from NFL dot Com looking

530
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Speaker 2: at the best new quarterback wide receiver combos. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty four season. Let's see what his

532
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Speaker 2: list like we looked at We looked at the thirty

533
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Speaker 2: third teams list last last week, and we didn't necessarily agree.

534
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Speaker 3: Say, maybe this one would be more in line of

535
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Speaker 3: while we looked at it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's take a look at that. So his number one,

537
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 2: he broke it down into veteran combos and then rookie

538
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: veteran combos, which I think is a better.

539
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 3: Way to look smart. Yeah, because I hate ranking rookie

540
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 3: quarterbacks amongst you know, veterans or rookie receiver for them

541
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Speaker 3: any Yeah, any of these lists we talk about, rookie

542
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Speaker 3: should not be on them, yet they're their own beast.

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Speaker 2: So his first number, his number one veteran combo is

544
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Speaker 2: C J. Stroud Stefan Diggs, And I don't know if

545
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Speaker 2: i'd have that one number one.

546
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Speaker 3: I guess I'm not thinking well off the top of

547
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Speaker 3: my head of who should be one. I think Diggs

548
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 3: is gonna be their third leading receiver though, I mean

549
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: it's a potent combination. They paid a second round pick

550
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Speaker 3: to get him in a big contract for this year,

551
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Speaker 3: but I don't think he's gonna be their future receiver.

552
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Speaker 3: I think I think at best he's number two. At best,

553
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Speaker 3: I think he's number two.

554
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: The second group here is Kirk Cousins and Drake London agreed.

555
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 3: It's pretty darn good. I mean, especially consider them going

556
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: what the Falcons had a quarterback, the uncatchable wine balls

557
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: that came out of their arm, the hands, their inability

558
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 3: to call some plays because the quarterbacks can complete passes,

559
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 3: Like I know, there's some bad quarterback situations Jets, et cetera,

560
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: but no one was less accurate.

561
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's been catching passes from Marcus Mario

562
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: to Desmond Ritter and Taylor Heineken.

563
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 3: Brutal and even like end of career Ryan, just if

564
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: you go to Arthur Smith, quarterbacks as brutal. Yeah, they're

565
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Speaker 3: just not accurate.

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Speaker 2: Number three and this is one that we talked about.

567
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Speaker 2: It wasn't on the thirty third team list, but it's

568
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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes Marquise Brown.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really good one. It's a really good one.

570
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not sure for like the fantasy world,

571
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Speaker 3: where I'll take Brown where I slought them. Then we'll

572
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Speaker 3: see what Racie Rice's situation is where the do.

573
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Speaker 2: You see the latest on that that there was there

574
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: was a pre draft thing that that teams knew about

575
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: a situation where Rice, when he was at SMU, apparently

576
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: one of their basketball players started dating his ex girlfriend

577
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 2: and Rice and a bunch of his buddies showed up

578
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 2: fond of it at a basketball game, and somehow over

579
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: the course of the evening there were a bunch of

580
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Speaker 2: bullets fired into the basketball player's car.

581
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Speaker 3: Wow. So nobody knows who or how or when.

582
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Speaker 2: Or Andy Reid was asked about this and said, we

583
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Speaker 2: were aware of it. That's all I'm going to say.

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Speaker 3: We were.

585
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Speaker 2: We were aware of it because I remember they take

586
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Speaker 2: some chances on guys.

587
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, dope, be shocked when these guys have

588
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: great rookie years and then get in trouble in Kansas City.

589
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,239
Speaker 3: It's what happens when you do these things. I did

590
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Speaker 3: not know that story, but I did know there was

591
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Speaker 3: stuff around.

592
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: Well that was the stuff. Okay, like he is maybe

593
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: not the cleanest of prospects.

594
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: Sure didn't seem that way. So that helps Brown.

595
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: After this number four on here is the Jets with

596
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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and Mike Williams.

597
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: Interesting, I would have been real happy if Mike Williams

598
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: would have ended up here. Yeah, is a number two.

599
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 3: That's the exact same role he's going to play there.

600
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: I think he's so highly effective when he's on the field.

601
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, number five. And I think this is where we

602
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 2: had this when we talked about it after three Russell

603
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: Wilson George Pickens.

604
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Speaker 3: So Wilson might not have had as good as years

605
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Speaker 3: as Rogers and Mahomes and cousins that we've listed or

606
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 3: shrouded last year, but that marriage is pretty nice in

607
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 3: terms of what each do well.

608
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it works out very nicely. And I

609
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: think George Pickens could end up being a true wide

610
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: receiver one in Fantasy this year.

611
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 3: I think he could too. Yeah.

612
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Speaker 2: Overall, like those the stats that they listed on thirty

613
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Speaker 2: third team with that story when they did it, I mean,

614
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Speaker 2: fifty fifth fifty five catches for a thousand yards.

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Speaker 3: Seemed really low, seemed really low. Yeah. Yeah, he's going

616
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: to be the number one receiver. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think he's I mean he had eleven

618
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 2: hundred yards last.

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Speaker 3: Year a lot, and there were some games where he

620
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: did nothing. Yeah, I mean some real stinkers.

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Speaker 2: The rookie veteran combos.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this will be like a Dunsa. I mean all

623
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: those good receivers.

624
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: Number one on here is Kyler Murray, Marvin Harrison.

625
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: That's easy, yeah, easy, yeah.

626
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: Number two is Caleb Williams DJ Moore. It's a different

627
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: way to look at it.

628
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would have that ahead of the Giants

629
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: or one of those situations.

630
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: I would have that ahead of Caleb Williams Adunza.

631
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. I mean maybe Allen ends up with more

632
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: catches in a donsay, but er than More. But I

633
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: think More is their best receiver.

634
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: He's their number one. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh. Number

635
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: three on here is Josh Allen keyon Coleman.

636
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: The Allen carries a lot of weight. Yeah, but you

637
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: also have mahomes Worthy.

638
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: They mentioned that one when we went through through the

639
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: other one there.

640
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, you think Coleman's there leading wide receiver.

641
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: I think maybe. I think when it's all said and done,

642
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: shakiir Well, I say that, and I think I think

643
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: Kinkaid maybe gets the most targets on the team.

644
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: I do too. I think it's gonna be a Kelsey

645
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 3: like offense. Yeah yeah, I do too. But Shakier is

646
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: exciting to me.

647
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I wouldn't be surprising for me to take

648
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: some flyers on him and Fantasy draft times.

649
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: Even Samuel when he's out there could make big plays.

650
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: He just scares me from an injury standpoint, because he's

651
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: always always got something. Number four j McCarthy Justin Jefferson.

652
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: That's kind of like Allan and Coleman, like one guy

653
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: carries a lot.

654
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: Of that season, you know, right and if JJ McCarthy,

655
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: and by all accounts, that's one of the reasons why

656
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: he was drafted where he's drafted. He's a smart Oh yeah,

657
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: he's gonna see, Hey, I got Justin Jefferson throw them football,

658
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: ye bestially while Hawkinson's out.

659
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: I just don't when McCarthy's sees the field. Yeah, I

660
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Speaker 3: think Darnold could play a lot. Number five Jade and Daniels,

661
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Speaker 3: Terry McLaurin. Good could be mclaurin's best quarterback already even

662
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Speaker 3: as a rookie. Protecting him worries me a little, but

663
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Speaker 3: he moves well.

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Speaker 2: You get some other guys like a maybe how about

665
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: like Herbert McConkie, Trevor Lawrence, Brian Thomas, Herbert McConkie. There

666
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Speaker 2: was another one I was thinking of there when we

667
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Speaker 2: were talking about that.

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Speaker 3: It was more of a I'm not going to go

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Speaker 3: like May Sutton that wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Know if you're looking for a veteran, veteran duke Minshew

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Speaker 2: and and and uh Adams, Minshew Adams is.

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Speaker 3: I mean Adams is strong obviously, I mean Minshew.

673
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Speaker 2: Pepper Pittman with targets last year, so he got not

674
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Speaker 2: gonna do that with DeVante Adams.

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Speaker 3: No, I think he'll get more. Yeah, Adams will be

676
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Speaker 3: on my fantasy teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's still good and they're they're not,

678
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Speaker 2: they're not, and.

679
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Speaker 3: He's clearly their best guy. Does Bowers do anything for you?

680
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: Not really?

681
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 3: I mean Bowers Minshew's a totally new Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That one doesn't. That doesn't get me his juices Adams

683
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: in that situation, I think Adams is going to get

684
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Speaker 2: the football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what to think abo ours as

686
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Speaker 3: a rookie. I'm kind of on the fence on that.

687
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: They obviously like him. He's talented. I assume he'll be

688
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: out there every play, but I don't know. Yes, it's

689
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 3: uh interesting directions, but that's a I think that's a

690
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: much more representative list. Yeah, at all.

691
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Speaker 2: And I think that's a good way to break it down,

692
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Speaker 2: because you remember that list last week had a bunch

693
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Speaker 2: of those rookie veteran combos very high.

694
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Speaker 3: On different Yeah, very high on the list.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, we don't know about that.

696
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: You don't know, Yeah, And I do think Wilson Pickens

697
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 3: or where they should be. Yeah, they should be on

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Speaker 3: the list number one, but they should be in the list,

699
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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really excited about that combination.

701
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: I do too, And I think Pickens route development will improve.

702
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: He'll continue to run more and more routes as a

703
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: rookie ran very little. Yeah, we saw big improvement last year.

704
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 3: But he what he does best is go up and

705
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: get it down the field outside numbers, and that probably

706
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: will never change.

707
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 2: And that matches up well with what Wilson Harris well.

708
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you can do it against stacked boxes

709
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: and some favorable coverages and off play action and off

710
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: motion and things that we didn't see before, it could

711
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: be really good.

712
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Speaker 2: I think that's the interesting part of this offense that

713
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: we're going to see a lot more of, not this

714
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: week at Mini Camp, but moving forward into training camp.

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Speaker 2: That's that's one thing I'm going to be very interested

716
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Speaker 2: to watch the play action faster things and if they

717
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 2: are running the football at a high rate but then

718
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: taking those shots down the field. Yeah, yeah, you know

719
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Speaker 2: how that works out with again, Pickens and Austin and

720
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Speaker 2: some of.

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Speaker 3: These guys, even the Watkins and those guys, they can

722
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: yeah run, I mean they can get past people. They

723
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: might be super diverse outrunners either, but so the respect

724
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Speaker 3: their speed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, there's no doubt about that. Let's get to

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Speaker 2: another break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit more about that particular subject

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Speaker 2: when we return on the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lollie. He is the Matt Williamson

733
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Speaker 2: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt,

734
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: we just talked a little bit there about, you know,

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Speaker 2: some of the calling cards of what we think the

736
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Speaker 2: Steelers offense will look like. The one thing when you're

737
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Speaker 2: talking about the Steelers adding maybe another receiver is who's

738
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Speaker 2: the chain mover? Yeah, I think some of it's friar Mouth.

739
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 3: I think some of it's Friarmuth.

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Speaker 2: But can Van Jefferson be that?

741
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but a lesser version than Deontay you know what

742
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Speaker 3: I mean?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's not. He won't be Deontay. But I

744
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: think if you get better quarterback play, that might not

745
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: matter quite as like Deontay and Ben Roethlisberger were. That

746
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: was a match made in heaven. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like

747
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: Roethlisberger was going to throw the ball to Deontey no matter.

748
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: What open timy routs, quick hitters, medium range outs.

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Speaker 2: So who is that guy on this I look at

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Speaker 2: Jefferson as being the guy that might be because.

751
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: I think he's profiled the best in that yeah way,

752
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: I don't have a great answer for that though, you know.

753
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: I mean, if they add one, would they be more

754
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: of a chain mover or more dynamic?

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00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: To me, That's what I would be looking for, because

756
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: they got to your point that you mentioned. They've got

757
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: plenty of speed guys, guys that can run, but you

758
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: need and keenan al keenan Allen type. Everybody loves that.

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00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: But I mean that profile but.

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Speaker 2: Somebody you know when it's third and seven that it's

761
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: gonna get you eight.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who's on the team right now, that's

763
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Speaker 3: that guy. I mean, I think Jefferson is the best bet.

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Speaker 3: I would hope Pickens gets.

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Speaker 2: More of that stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gets more of it in his bag for sure.

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00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: Friarmouth of course. But they're a little short there. Yeah,

768
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 3: you know, they're a little short there.

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Speaker 2: I mean unless it can be paid, you know, if

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Speaker 2: his Pickens, that's great. If he can if he can

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Speaker 2: do both, well, then he's really taking that next number one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's it to me.

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Speaker 3: I forget exactly how I said it, but when I

774
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: was doing my what's a number one receiver? Was can

775
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: get open basically at all levels versus man verse zone

776
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: when everybody in the world knows it's coming, you know, abe,

777
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like, and that's a lofty,

778
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: lofty list. But if he can do that, if he

779
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 3: can win nickel and dime money down third and six

780
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 3: type stuff, he'll be a star. He'll be a star.

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Speaker 2: Part of the reason I think he can be that

782
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 2: guy or has the potential to be that guys because

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00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 2: of his catch radius. Yes, and it's not like he

784
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: should be killer on back shoulder throws and things of

785
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: that nature.

786
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 3: And yeah, I like the back shoulder ideas too. The

787
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 3: steel's on some of that, but I think you'll see

788
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 3: more of it. Yeah, a veteran, trustworthy quarterback. He also,

789
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: like DK metcal is a great player, but he's never

790
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: going to break down and kill you without routes or comebacks,

791
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: you know, and stuff like that, where Pickens is more fluid.

792
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 3: He's a better bender. He could physically do that better

793
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: than Metcalf.

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00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's one of the best guys in

795
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Speaker 2: the league in terms of body control.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so, yeah, but I would like a Deontay type,

797
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, to your point, it's going to

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Speaker 3: be kind of a group effort to fill that role.

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00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: Maybe it is Jefferson, but he has to be good

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00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: enough to be in the field right now. You've got

801
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: to beat out the other guys. You're not gonna put

802
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: him out there just to do those little things. It's

803
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: kind of a side note, but I thought Alan Robinson

804
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: was very easy to play against in the passing game,

805
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 3: but what he offered as a blocker was really important too.

806
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: If you come out in eleven and you get nickel

807
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 3: or dime and he blows a part of safety or

808
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: a slot. I'm not sure who's going to do that. Yeah,

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00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 3: you know. I mean I think it'll be more tight

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00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: end asked.

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Speaker 2: Well something else. I think we're going to see more

812
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: of his full back play.

813
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: I think that's whether that's using a tight end lined

815
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: up in the backfield, or whether that's using Connor Heyward

816
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: lined up in whatever you want to call him.

817
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: You're gonna see my alignment.

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00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: You're going to see more more of a straight you know,

819
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: a two back set.

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00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: I think you'll see people lined up in the backfield more,

821
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: whether they motioned there before, after the snap or whatever,

822
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: and they'll block from those angles. I think they'll do

823
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: a better job of cre eiding blocking angles from the

824
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: backfield from the non ball carriers. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I kind of like Hayward in that role. Yeah,

826
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Speaker 2: because if he's he's coming out of the backfield like that,

827
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Speaker 2: A he's getting a clean release, yeah, and B he's

828
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Speaker 2: faster than a lot of linebackers.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, He's probably faster than the use checks of

830
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 3: the world too. Yeah, you know, and a much better.

831
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Speaker 3: He's a good catcher of the football he is, and

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00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: he's good after catch. Back to the conversation of who

833
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: gets first downs for you, I don't think. I'm not

834
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: implying Hayward's going to catch forty balls or thirty balls

835
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Speaker 3: even but it wouldn't shock me if a high percentage

836
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: of his catches go for first. Roman Wilson's had a

837
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: high percentage of his catches go for first. Now that's college,

838
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, that's it's gonna be an adjustment.

839
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Speaker 3: But maybe you can piece it together with Darneld Washington

840
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 3: gets you seven on third and six. You know, everyone

841
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 3: maybe chips in a little bit in the scheme helps.

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00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: It's a little more diverse of a passing game than

843
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: having a couple of guys dominate touches.

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Speaker 3: I mean pickings aside. Yeah, but if Prewitt, Hayward, Washington, Patterson,

845
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 3: Jefferson all have that club in their bag, but it's

846
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: not there. It's not the best club in the league,

847
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, you should be able to

848
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Speaker 3: generate that.

849
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 2: I do. I also think we're going to see more

850
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: And this was always a something that that you know,

851
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: people tell me the Steelers don't scheme guys open as

852
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: much when you talk about scheming guys open, I think

853
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: a lot of precinet motion. Yeah, is going to help

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00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: with that.

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00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 3: That's gonna help dramatically. I mean, it's just better indicators

856
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 3: for the quarterback. You get man's own indicators things of

857
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: that nature too. But yeah, I think that's one hundred

858
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 3: percent coming. I could and this was the fantasy community

859
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 3: hated Arthur Smith for this, but he's really good at

860
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 3: scheming up the fourth and fifth receivers. Yeah, you know

861
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: what I mean.

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00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: The more you know that's again, that's why John Smith

863
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: has fifty catches last year and and Kyle Pitts has

864
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: fifty two. Like they were both good players.

865
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Speaker 3: But if you're going to get one of them on

866
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Speaker 3: a linebacker that can't run and the other one is

867
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Speaker 3: getting a safety linebacker, bracket will go to the other dude,

868
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So you throw it to

869
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Speaker 3: the open guy and people in fantasy get mad at

870
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: you for that, but that's we're not worried about that

871
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 3: in this one trying to win game. We're trying to

872
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 3: get first downs to get the boot ball down the field.

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00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 3: I would like to see one more pass catcher. I

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Speaker 3: definitely I can get off that soapbox until I least

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Speaker 3: maybe in camp when I see them all alive, I'll

876
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 3: be like, I think.

877
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 2: To me, the biggest thing is what happens if Pickens

878
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: missus a game or two. That's that's what is really

879
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: the scary part of it. Like, those guys are all fine,

880
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 2: and I think you can win with those guys, you know,

881
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: if you look at it.

882
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: You know, Van.

883
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: Jefferson's been on winning teams. Ques Watkins has been on

884
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: winning teams, and they've both been the contributed and they've contributed.

885
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: But even Marquez Calloway been on you know, when he

886
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: was with the Saints, was part of you know, some

887
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: some winning teams there, even wat Yeah. Yeah, but again,

888
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: if Pickens were to miss some time, that's when I'm

889
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 2: I would be very concerned.

890
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all spokes in a wheel to me. Yeah,

891
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 3: they're they're replaceable, they're valuable. We'll see all shape's up.

892
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 3: I'm sure by mid August we'll have something that we

893
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: like better than others. Yeah, you know, and that'll start

894
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 3: to become clear, which is what they're doing here. But

895
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: none of them have the ceiling of being as hard

896
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: to play against his Pickens.

897
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they just that they just don't And

898
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: I don't know that there's anybody out there that you

899
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: can realistically acquire that's going to be that guy. But

900
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: you know, I just having another another guy who has

901
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: been a reliable Wilson could surprise.

902
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: He could not say he's gonna pooking a coup or

903
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: anything his rookie year, but he could be better than

904
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: I thought and be their second best wide out. Yeah.

905
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 3: I mean you'd take that all day long. Yeah. I mean,

906
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: if he catches, I don't care what the numbers are,

907
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: but if he's the second best wide out on this

908
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 3: team when it's all said and done, like that was

909
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: a really successful rookie year. And I don't think that's

910
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: outside the wrong possibility.

911
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't think it is either. I mean,

912
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: you know, if he finishes his rookie season with fifty catches,

913
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: you know, for six hundred and fifty yards.

914
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: Okay, then as the season goes on, it gets a

915
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 3: little more little more you know, a little bit harder

916
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 3: to play against, a little bit more diverse, more trustworthy.

917
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 3: You know, that wouldn't blow me away at all.

918
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: No, nor I because he's the guy when you talk

919
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: about somebody who can play like Deontay Johnson. That's what

920
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: his You're out run, Yeah, yeah, you're out run that's

921
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: what that's what he profiles as.

922
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: And you know he's in block a little bit. You know,

923
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: he'll go over the middle. You know, he'll do the

924
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 3: things that coaches like to get him on the field, right,

925
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 3: they won't get him pulled off the field.

926
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

927
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: So no, I'm very excited to watch him too. But

928
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: this passing game minus Pickens would be frightening, There's no

929
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 3: doubt about it. And you know you can I think

930
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: they've kicked every tire and that doesn't mean they're done

931
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: kicking tires. But I'm sure if Omar was sitting to

932
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: the biggest roster concern for him would be wide receiver two,

933
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: especially now that Sutton's been signed.

934
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I think that's something we'll definitely be

935
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: keeping an eye on here, not just this week, but

936
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: then moving forward into training camp as we get closer

937
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: and closer, no question to the start of the twenty

938
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: twenty for NFL season, not too far away, it really is.

939
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: I think we're under one hundred days now from.

940
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 3: The start of the scene till that Thursday kickoff crazy

941
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 3: and Camp's not like what five or six weeks with Yeah,

942
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 3: can't wait.

943
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, can't wait. But Matt, that's going to

944
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: do it for our show today.

945
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: All Right.

946
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: It's a good one. Yeah, as usual. I hope, I

947
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: hope it's a good one. I hope people out there

948
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: like it. I hope if you do like it, let

949
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: let other people the word, spread the word, let them

950
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: know we find it. We talk Steeler football in some

951
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: form or fashion. You know, people, there are people out

952
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: there to get angry when we talk about fantasy football.

953
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 3: They should give it a little more chance because you

954
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: do get more relative than you think.

955
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: Steer it around towards some Steeler centric stuff. And also,

956
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: you know you should know no, you gotta know your pence.

957
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I think we go deeper into

958
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: the league than anyone else is down. Yeah.

959
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: So anyways, for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller

960
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Speaker 2: here on site keeping us on the air, I am

961
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Speaker 2: Dale Lollie. We thank you for listening to this edition

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Speaker 2: of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.