1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up? 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: Straight Fire? Fam hits me? Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire or 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: Tuesday October third, Oh my gosh, the massacre on Monday 5 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: Night football. I probably could go good forty five minutes 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: enjoying with much glee the New York Giants and Daniel 7 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: Jones getting humiliated by the Seattle Seahawks. And it wasn't 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: even all Gino Smith. There was some Drew Lock mixed in. Yes, 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: that really happened. Daniel Jones and the Giants get oh 10 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: pulverized twenty four to three. A humiliating performance from Brian Dable, 11 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones up and down the roster, just a total embarrassment. 12 00:00:54,360 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: The Giants permitted Daniel Jones to be sacked ten timesaggering 13 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 2: number we already know Daniel Jones coming into this game 14 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: was one and eleven in prime time. And still people 15 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: are like, well, you know, Daniel Jones, he's got to 16 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: get it figured out. No Saquon Barkley, no left tackle. 17 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. The forty million dollar man pocket awareness of 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: you know my dog in the you know when he's 19 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: walking around sniffing everything like Daniel Jones has no clue 20 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: what's going on, gets drilled from behind, fumble scoop Seahawks 21 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,279 Speaker 2: take it in a few plays later, Then later Daniel 22 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 2: Jones with a brutal, I'm talking backbreaking, game changing pick six. 23 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: You know what, it reminded me of Lamar Jackson had 24 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: like a one hundred yard pick six in a playoff game. 25 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: I think it was in the end zone against the Bills, 26 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: and it was like they were down I don't know, 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 2: seven to ten ish, and then the pick six made 28 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: it like seventeen three and it was over. I remember 29 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: that because I he was on Lamar in the Ravens, 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: And this is similar with Daniel Jones. Down fourteen three, 31 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: but it's late third quarter, you're in the game. You 32 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: punch it in here, fourteen ten, you got a game, 33 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: and he throws a horrendous pass right to the rookie Devintherspoon, 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: who had a phenomenal game. Holy hell, he was everywhere, 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: sack picked six tackles for loss, Like Devin Witherspoon looked 36 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: like a player. The kid out of Illinois takes it 37 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: back to the house and from then on it was 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: just I mean, I felt almost I almost felt bad 39 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 2: for Daniel Jones on the telecast because all they kept 40 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: showing was him, and Brian Dabele was sick of it. 41 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: Dabele at one point went up to his quarterback to 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: show him, you know, the tablet, the surface tablet or 43 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: whatever it's called. Daniel Jones looks at and Dabele's basically like, 44 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: you know what the f and then just chucks it. 45 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: You know, like at the end of a card game, 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: he'll just chuck a card and be like, ah, whatever, 47 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: that's what he did. He just chucked it, turned around 48 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: and was shaking his head. Brian dabel has had it 49 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: with Daniel Jones. And some of the numbers about this 50 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: Giants team are complete, like unbelievable. So Daniel Jones this 51 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: season has two passing touchdowns in the fourth quarter against Arizona. 52 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: In the every other quarter combined, he has no touchdown passes. Basically, 53 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: he's shown up in one quarter this season in Arizona. 54 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: He has a six turnovers this season. He has taken 55 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: nineteen sacks this season. Now I know sacks. Some are 56 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: on the offensive line, and yes, no Andrew Thomas did 57 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: not help, and yes the Giants offensive line. This is 58 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: the second time in prime time that they Daniel Jones 59 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: is getting murdered out there the opener against the Cowboys. 60 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: I think that was forty to three or something, and 61 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: Jones was just getting decked every time he dropped back 62 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: to pass. And like listen, they got Andrew Jones, big Andrew, 63 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: the kid from Georgia. He's hurt, and the backups are 64 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 2: total garbage. The big kid they got from Alabama can't 65 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: block him. Couldn't block me coming off the edge. They 66 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: are a train wreck. I mean, this team made the 67 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: playoffs last year and then paid Daniel Jones, and folks, 68 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: I cannot stress enough how many times we talked about 69 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: it on this podcast. That is a foolish thing to do. 70 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: If Jones hit the market, ain't nobody paying thirty nine 71 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: million for him? Now they're locked in Daniel Jones next 72 00:03:54,560 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: year is a fifty I'm sorry, he is a sixty 73 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: nine million in dead money for Daniel Jones, forty seven 74 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: million dollar cap hit. He's a forty one million dollar 75 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: capit in twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, fifty eight 76 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: million dollar cap pit. Like listen, I'm sure they're gonna 77 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: figure out a way to get rid of him before then. 78 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 2: But you start to wonder, like I was hammering the 79 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: Patriots yesterday with this ability to fall behind early in games. 80 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: It's happened three times to the Patriots, like digging themselves 81 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: big holes with Mac Jones. Folks, New York Giants are 82 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 2: kind of doing the same thing with Daniel Jones. You 83 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: cannot consistently come out flat, can't do a damn thing, 84 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: can't move the football, committing turnovers. I mean, I don't 85 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: know what to say, Like I'm not sitting here like championing. 86 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 2: I was right, but in all seriousness, I couldn't be 87 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: happier that Zach Wilson showed up Sunday night against the 88 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: Chiefs and looked competent, Like maybe that's just a one off. 89 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: That's fine. But like, folks, here's where it's scary. If 90 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: you're a Daniel Jones fan. I decided to call up 91 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: the box score. Last week, Seattle's defense was facing Andy Dalton, 92 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: the red rifle, who was filling in for Bryce Young. 93 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 2: Andy Dalton threw a career high fifty eight passes, He 94 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: was sacked three times, and the Panthers' offensive line stinks 95 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: a quanto. The Young kid, second year guy at NC State, 96 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: he's really struggling. I think it was him who had 97 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: like three penalties because of the crowd noise, Like they 98 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: were a mess on the offensive line. Nevertheless, Dalton three 99 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty one yards passing in two touchdowns. They 100 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: were within the number for like the first forty five 101 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: to fifty minutes of that game. And it's not like 102 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: he's throwing the way better guys than the Giants have. 103 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: And I get it, the Giants do not have great 104 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: skill guys. Adam Thielen is washed. He's barely a two 105 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 2: DJ Shark, Okay, whatever, Miles Sanders out of the backfield, 106 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: Terrence Marshall, Jonathan Mingo, the young kid, like, trust me, 107 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: Carolina does not have any weapons. So all this defense 108 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: of Daniel Jones, well he doesn't have any help. Okay, 109 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: you didn't have help last year. Well he had Saquon 110 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: last year. Okay, fine, fine, So why did Saquon not 111 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: get paid and you paid Daniel Jones? Like, there's so 112 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: many questions for Dable and the Giants. I think right now, 113 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: and I don't want to sound too harsh, but I 114 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: think the Giants have the worst quarterback in the NFC East. 115 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: We know Jalen Hurts is better, we know Dak is better. 116 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: And now you're like, well, the sample size of Sam 117 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 2: Howell's tiny, but I've got like a five year sample 118 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: of Daniel Jones and I know he's not good. So 119 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: maybe that's too harsh. But right now, if you're asking 120 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: you who would I rather have under center for the 121 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: rest of the season, I would go Sam Howell over 122 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. I mean, listen, Daniel Jones at thirty nine 123 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: million dollars Sam Howell on a rookie deal, that's a 124 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: no brainer. Like, I don't know what the Giants thought 125 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: they were doing, but I don't see any salvation to 126 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: the season for New York. Like Saquon Barkley's not magically 127 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: gonna turn it around just because he shows up. You know, 128 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: remember he was on the field in the first half 129 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: and against Arizona. He was on the field against Dallas 130 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: when they got their butts kicked. Like this team just 131 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: is not good. And listen, I know everybody loves Brian Dable, 132 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: a great coach, but he's got his hands full rob 133 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: with Danny Dimes, and I don't think you can even 134 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: call him Vanilla vic anymore because he can't escape, doesn't 135 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: look like he could escape. I think we had called 136 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: him Danny Luce changed last year, and then he started 137 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: to win some close games. I was like, fine, I'll 138 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: go back to Danny Dimes. But we can't call him 139 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: Danny Dimes anymore. He's Daniel Loose Change. And right now 140 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: he's got to be one of the worst starting quarterbacks 141 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: in the NFL. Like even listen, even this weekend, Zach 142 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: Wilson looked good against the Chiefs, who have shut down 143 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: some people. Okay, justin fields look good. I know you 144 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: know Broncos defense things. But find me a worst quarterback 145 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: right now than Daniel Jones. I mean, Rob, you can't. 146 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: I don't hear about San Francisco. He didn't do Jack squad. 147 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: He only did showed up in the fourth quarter against Arizona. 148 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: Nothing against Dallas. The only argument is, well, Arizona is 149 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: like plucky. Okay, fine, that's a weak argument, but I'll 150 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: let it slide. Dallas is a very good defense. We 151 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: know that San Francisco has an elague defense, like I 152 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: get those, So what's the excuse for Seattle? 153 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: Rob? 154 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: Like three points we're seeing in this league right now. 155 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: We saw seven teams without offensive touchdown this weekend. The 156 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: gap in quarterback play is just getting massive and kind 157 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: of sad. We're getting a lot of crap games. Thursday 158 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: Night Football was total garbage. Okay, Lions Packers was that 159 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: was a mess. Monday Night Football was horrible. So many 160 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: games on Sunday were trash, folks. Thursday Night football, get ready, 161 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: Sam Owel and Washington seven point favorites against Justin Fields 162 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: and the Bears. By the way, I'm close to betting 163 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: the Bears. I hope, I hope it hasn't moved off 164 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: the seven, But I don't know. 165 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: Rob. 166 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: All I can do is is just be like, I'm 167 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: just happy the Jets did not pay a quarterback who 168 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: is incompetent as Daniel Jones, who cannot seemingly can't read 169 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: a defense. 170 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 171 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: You know what's funny is Zach Wilson has taking a 172 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: lot of heat, you know, both on this podcast then nationally, 173 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: and for good reason, you know, because that's you know, 174 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: yesterday's game or excuse me, Sunday Night's game was arguably 175 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: the best game of his career, and his QBR was 176 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: lower than Patrick Mahomes who had statistically the fourth worst 177 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: game of his career. So like that, that's where we're 178 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: at with Zach Wilson. But if you were to compare 179 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson to Danny, Danny Lu's changed, Danny Penny's Danny, 180 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: He's definitely not Dimes, all right, Danny Lu's change. Zach 181 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: Wilson in twenty six games has nineteen passing touchdowns and 182 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: twenty five turnovers combined. Daniel Jones in fifty eight games 183 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: has sixty two passing touchdowns sixty three turnovers. So the 184 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: gap between the guy who was a walking punching bag, 185 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, and the one hundred and forty million dollar 186 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: man is almost minuscule, Like it's it's really small. So 187 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: I don't understand. And we've been on a hate to 188 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: be a dead horse. We've been talking about this since 189 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: that ink was dry on that contract. It's gonna be 190 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: one of those deals that not only is could it 191 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, cause friction in the locker room because they 192 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: paid the wrong guy. Obviously they should have paid Saquan 193 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: and not Daniel Jones. But it's one of those moves 194 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: that because you did it and when you did it, 195 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: it's going to set your franchise back a number of 196 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: seasons because, as you alluded to, it's going to be really, really, 197 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: really hard for them to get a new quarterback in 198 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: their next season, just based on the cap number, Like 199 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: unless you are drafting in the top two or three, 200 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: which I don't think that the Giants are quite that 201 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: bad because you know, the Panthers exist, and the Bears 202 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: exist and my Raiders exist. Like, it's gonna be hard 203 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: for them to be that bad. Like where do you 204 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: turn from here? And what makes it worse is that 205 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: we all saw it coming last season. Daniel Jones is 206 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: coming out party. He had two games over three und 207 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: yards passing, one against the Lions, one against the Vikings, who, 208 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: by the way, were the two worst pass defenses in 209 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: the NFL last season, or two of the bottom pass defenses. 210 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: Outside of those two. 211 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: Games, here is passing yard numbers. I'm gonna go in 212 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: order one eight one seventy six, one ninety six, seventy one, 213 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: two seventeen, one seventy three, two oh two, one seventy six, 214 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: one ninety seven, two twenty eight, two hundred one, sixty nine, 215 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: one sixty one, seventy seven. So on Monday Night football 216 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: when he goes against the Seahawks and he goes twenty 217 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: seven for thirty four for two oh three, zero touchdowns 218 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: and two picks. That's not a bad game for Daniel Jones. 219 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: That is who he is, right Like, that's the standard 220 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones game. That's where you should be expecting as 221 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: a Giants fan and as a football fan from Danny Dimes. 222 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: Like whatever it is that inspired Brian day Ball in 223 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: that Giants front office to give him that contract, I 224 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know who they were competing against. 225 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if has been reported Daniel Jones's dad 226 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: came down and you know, was threatening agents and threatening 227 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: the front office. I don't know if that's true or not. 228 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: But it was such a bad decision that they're gonna 229 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: have to live with and there is no escape for 230 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: them to get out of it. 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See sportsbook dot DraftKings dot com, slash football 276 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: terms for eligibility and deposit restrictions, terms and responsible gaming resources. 277 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: I might have an escape pod for you. Are you 278 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: ready for that? This is this is a little crazy. 279 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: As you start reeling off like how bad he is? 280 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: And I decided, let me look at the Giants' schedule, Rob, 281 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: So they got the Dolphins this week. That was nine 282 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: and a half before Monday Night football. There's no way 283 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: that opens anything under ten, right, That's got to be 284 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: ten and a half. I mean, Dolphins are gonna go 285 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: up and down the field against the Giants. Even Miami's 286 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: defense should respond. After that Buffalo Bills game, then they 287 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: play the Bills. So if they can't somehow magically beat 288 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: the Dolphins and they lose to the Bills, will be 289 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: one to five. They host the Commanders and the Jets 290 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: and the Raiders. Bit of a respite, Cowboys, Commanders, Patriots. 291 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if the Patriots are good. They start 292 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: to play the Eagles twice, Rob twice, and the Eagles 293 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: are gonna be fighting for home field advantage. This smells 294 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: like a five win team, right. So now, Rob, if 295 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: you win five games and the New York Giants are 296 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: drafting in the top ten, what is your escape pod? 297 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: Do you go for a quarterback in the top ten 298 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: right after paying Daniel Jones? 299 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: I would absolutely so do you. 300 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: Think the Giants will? And that's the question because it's like, WHOA, 301 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: we gave out a massive franchise contract to a quarterback 302 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: and now a year later we're drafting another quarterback. What 303 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: does it say for me, the GM of this team? 304 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: Do I have any control? Do I know what I'm doing? 305 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: Do you trust that guy to take a quarterback when 306 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: he just thought Daniel Jones was one hundred and sixty 307 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: mil or whatever they gave him. That's one of the 308 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: big questions that I think the Giants are facing now. 309 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: I don't know how your salvage just because like nobody's 310 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: get you got to attach picks if you want to 311 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: trade Daniel Jones and there's no market for him. But 312 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: I think you've got to start seriously thinking, like, I mean, 313 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: we're the five wins again on here? Do you want 314 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: to just say they split with the Commanders? Sure, okay, 315 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: we'll give them a win over the Commanders. Are they 316 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: beating the Raiders November fifth in Vegas? 317 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: Oh no, they're not. 318 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: Okay, they're not winning in Vegas. Patriots. Who's winning that game? 319 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: Patriots are bad? 320 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: But Jesus well, I trust Belichick's defense, So I'll give 321 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: me the Patriots. 322 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: Okay, Packers, give me the Packers. 323 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: The Saints. 324 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: On the road or at home in New Orleans. Oh oh, 325 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: give me the Saints. 326 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: Holy hell. And then the Rams. 327 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: The Rams could be in tank mode at that point too, 328 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: it's fair. 329 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: So we've given that. Okay, then the Jets. The Jets 330 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: would be the other one. 331 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: They could be the same situation, depending on where they're at. 332 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: This Actually the Jets are October twenty ninth, in like 333 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: three weeks. So bottom line is worth the We're you 334 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: just rattled off two maybe three wins. Like maybe they're 335 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 2: drafting higher in the top ten than we think. Like 336 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: the path this is gonna be, this is gonna be 337 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 2: really interesting. I know people don't care about the Giants, 338 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: but clearly the national TV games. I mean we've seen 339 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 2: Giants in primetime now three times, right, Cowboys forty nine 340 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: Ers and this trek the Jets were in primetime season 341 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 2: opener with Rogers and Chiefs, and I think that's it 342 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: so far. Yeah, but that's five New York teams in 343 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: primetime in September because they're looking for a number because 344 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: New York has the largest TV market, Folks. I don't 345 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: know what to say. Man, It's a sad state of 346 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: affairs in New York. And here's a really this is 347 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 2: the cherry on top of the poop show that is 348 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: football in New York right now. The Giants and Jets 349 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: are the only teams in the NFL that have not 350 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 2: run an offensive play while leading this season. 351 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: Just that's embarrassing out there. 352 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: I mean, the Jets only lead was the punt return 353 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: in overtime, and they didn't run off it's a play. 354 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: The Giants, they don't show up at the first quarter. 355 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I don't. Jets desperate for a win in 356 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: Denver this weekend, Rob, I was gonna talk since unless 357 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 2: you got any other hot takes on the Seahawks. I mean, 358 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: they didn't look great. Did I didn't think they looked great? 359 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: Did you? No? 360 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean I thought they did, like just enough to win, 361 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, but I wasn't overly impressed. 362 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 3: By what they were doing. 363 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: To your point, as bad as the Giants are, were 364 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: it not for a ninety seven yard pick six. It's 365 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: a fourteen to ten game in the middle of. 366 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: The third quarter, No, certainly. And you know I was 367 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: facing Kenneth Walker and they needed him to get like 368 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: under ten points and he breaks off that. The fan 369 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: goes down at the one inch line, so you know, 370 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: Walker gets a touchdown. Then he broke off a run late, 371 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: but he barely got it. You don't care about my 372 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: fantasy team. A couple of interesting things as injuries mount 373 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: around the league, rob and none of these are huge, 374 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: but I think they're big enough to mention. So T 375 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: Higgins is gonna be a free agent after the season. 376 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: The Bengals are likely gonna lose him. Did you see 377 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: that he broke a rib against Tennessee and they were like, ooh, 378 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: that's gonna be multiple weeks. T Higgins comes out and says, 379 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to play. Okay, the Bengals stink. The 380 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: season is going nowhere. I saw that, and I'm like, 381 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: T Higgins, what are you doing? You're looking at a 382 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: big payday? Why the hell are you playing with a 383 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 2: broken rib? And I'm like, your quarterback is hobbled and playing, 384 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: but he's got his money. You don't have your money, Like, 385 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 2: I don't want T Higgins to get hurt further injured out. 386 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: It's like, significant injury, cost yourself some money, Rob some 387 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: of these guys. So I see the T Higgins thing, 388 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 2: I'm like, ooh, that's not good. You see the injury. 389 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: Herbert has a fractured finger on his left hand, couldn't 390 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: grip a football when it mattered. Luckily they have a 391 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: bye week. Then it's the Cowboys, Like, that's just significant injury. 392 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 2: I still think they're in the mix for the playoffs. 393 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett goes down with what looked like a bad 394 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 2: knee injury. He had to hobble off for the Stealers, Rob, 395 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 2: he might not miss any time. He's facing the Ravens 396 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: this weekend. What are we doing? Like, that's how little 397 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: fate they have at Trubisky. And then, of course the 398 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: big one which we touched on was Tradavius White and 399 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 2: the Achilles injury. Rob. I know everybody's penciling in the 400 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 2: bills to the Super Bowl, and all these people are 401 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: coming after me on social media for saying remember in 402 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: June or July when you said the Bills window was 403 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: shut and I was like, wait, where were you guys 404 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: after Week one? Like you're showing up at week because 405 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 2: you beat the Dolphins. Okay, it's still early, Rob, You know, 406 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: I don't like crowning people that early just because the 407 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: Bills are the best team. 408 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 3: Now. 409 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 2: I don't know that they're necessarily going to remain the best. 410 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: We've seen them start hot before and then kind of 411 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 2: fade later in the season in the playoffs. I don't 412 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: know you're taking the Bills over the Chiefs in a 413 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: big playoff spot right now. 414 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: Hell no. 415 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the Chiefs haven't even been playing good offensively 416 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: to start this season. Out side of that first half 417 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: against Chicago. We haven't seen the all Caps Chiefs yet 418 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: in the first month in season. To your point about 419 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: Buffalo last year, they started scene six and one, the 420 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: year before four and one, the year before seven and two, 421 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: the year before that five and one. So this is 422 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: like a trend for them. They always get off the 423 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: hot starts. They're a really good team point bank period. 424 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: Like it's for all their faults that you know, I've 425 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: been critical of them, You've been critical of them. They 426 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: are an upper echelon NFL franchise. The problem with them, though, 427 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: is when you win at that high of a clip, 428 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: because they are a double digit team basically since Josh 429 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: Allen became Josh Allen like the evolved version that we 430 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: know of him as now, they're gonna be a ten, eleven, 431 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: twelve win team. You know, that's their baseline. The problem though, 432 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: is they find ways to flame out in the playoffs, 433 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: and usually it's because Josh Allen can't help himself from 434 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: doing hero ball type stuff that ultimately leads to turnovers 435 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: against the better teams. Can't do that, which is why 436 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: I even told you after the week one where I 437 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: said that I thought that they were the team I 438 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: had before the season most likely to take a step 439 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: back even if they end up winning the next sixteen games, 440 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: I said, they can go sixteen to one, and I 441 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: would say I don't trust them in a big spot 442 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: because their quarterback, for whatever reason, decides at the most 443 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: inopportune times to try to hurdle a defender from six 444 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: yards from the first down marker to throw into triple 445 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: coverage rolling across his body like for what he does 446 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: this all the time. And credit to him. In the 447 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: last three games he's limited that He's got eight passing touchdowns, 448 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: one pick, completing almost eighty percent of his passes. He's 449 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: rained it in, but until proven otherwise, I can't believe 450 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: that that's who he is outside of the Brian Once 451 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: Brian day Ball left that one season, he is Brett 452 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: Farrv two point zero and Brett Farv is as great 453 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 1: as he was. It's hard to trust against the brashelon quarterback, 454 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: especially when you're in the same conference as arguably the 455 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: greatest quarterback we've ever seen in Patrick Mahomes. 456 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't disagree with any of that. It's also 457 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: one of those I won't believe it until I actually 458 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: see it, you know, like sometimes you just have to 459 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: see it. And I mean, I don't know that McDermott 460 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: can be aggressive enough offensively in a big playoff game 461 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: when he's facing the Chiefs. They had a massive letdown 462 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: against the Bagels. They do get von millerback, which will 463 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 2: be massive here in a week or two. Quickly, before 464 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 2: we get to an NBA topic that we didn't touch 465 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: on from the weekend, are you mildly surprised that the 466 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers are only three and a half at 467 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: home against Dallas in primetime. 468 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish we would have led with that. I 469 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 3: don't understand that at all. 470 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: What am I missing here? It's the forty nine ers 471 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 2: against the Dallas team who basically has looked great against 472 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: the dregs of the league. Whooh, they beat the Jets. Wow, 473 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 2: they crushed the Giants, who look horrible. They destroyed the Patriots, 474 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: who stink. They play one good team this week in 475 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. I just think it's gonna be 476 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: so different, and they didn't look out against Arizona. Maybe 477 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: we throw that game out, but I don't know, Rob, 478 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: There's no way I'm taking McCarthy against Kyle Shanahan. I 479 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: just I cannot do it. And maybe Brock Purdy lays 480 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 2: his first egg. But you had this stat yesterday. It 481 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: was like, since McCaffrey became the starter, he hasn't lost 482 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: a game. When Purdy's been his quarterback, Purty hasn't lost 483 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 2: a game. He started and finished, like, how are you going? 484 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 2: How are you not taking the Niners here? Just perplexing. 485 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't make any sense, and it's the only 486 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: thing I can really think of is that you know, 487 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: this is deep in the weeds a little bit, is 488 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: that the Dallas Cowboys are a public team. 489 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: They are America's team. Yeah, And the only way you. 490 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: Can kind of even out the betting is to shorten 491 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: the odds on the Niners, because otherwise I think any 492 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: objective football fan will say that the Niners rec and 493 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: have owned Dallas. Dak Prescott, you know, comes up small 494 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: in these situations historically, and your point, the biggest thing 495 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: is the coaching mismatch between Kyle Shanahan and Mike McCarthy. 496 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: Football is back. No more preseason games. The regular season 497 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 2: is here. 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So after the trade of Drew Holliday from 516 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: the Bucks to the Blazers, I said, I still think 517 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 2: Boston's better than Milwaukee. And of course over the weekend 518 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: Boston decides to go and give up Brogden Robert Williams 519 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 2: and I think too. Future first one is in like 520 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 2: twenty four one is in like twenty twenty nine. For Holiday, 521 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: It's like, Wow, Boston now has Holiday, Tatum Brown, Derek White, Porzingis, 522 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: and Horford. I don't know. I don't know if there's 523 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: a better top six in the league than that. Denver 524 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 2: obviously has a strong argument. Phoenix, Phoenix has a very 525 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: very good three. I don't know about the next three. 526 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 2: But what Boston did was a sack their bench. I said, 527 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 2: we had Grant Williams, we couldn't afford it. We had 528 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: a Marcus Smart, we had brogged in Robert Williams and 529 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: their depth for top heaviness. I actually liked the deal. Obviously, 530 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: there's a massive hole rob with the front court. Al 531 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: Horford's thirty seven and Porzingis is injured practically every year. 532 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: Not a ton of depth behind those two. That being said, 533 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: all that matters is the postseason. You know, I don't 534 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: care if Boston gets in as the two, as the four, 535 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: as the six. All that matters is they're healthy. And 536 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 2: if you're telling me you've got Jalen Brown and Drew 537 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 2: Holliday defending on the wings, who's beating that in the East. 538 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: It's certainly not the sixers. I don't think that. I 539 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: think the Miami Heat take a big step back. And 540 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: let's remember this was a team that barely escaped a 541 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: playing game against my guy, Zach Levine. Okay, they were 542 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: trailing in the fourth quarter, then they get hot, the 543 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: injury to the Bucks and they steamroll folks. But I 544 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 2: don't know Drew Holliday, who, by the way, not guard 545 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler in that series last year, Butler had his 546 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 2: way with him and there was trash talking on Butler's 547 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: then too, because he's he's a bad, bad MF. 548 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 549 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I mean the Knicks. I like 550 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: this year they got all these Villanova guys, which is fine, 551 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: Cleveland's good, but I don't know. Rob For me, I 552 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: think is a massive win for Boston with the obvious 553 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: notation that the front court, you know, should Porzingis go 554 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 2: down for a month, I don't know what you're gonna 555 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 2: do that that could be a major problem. As for Portland, 556 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 2: I don't get the deal. A lot of people seem 557 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 2: to think, hey, they've got a bunch bunch of guards. 558 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: They just traded for DeAndre Ayton. All they're looking for 559 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: is somebody to need a big or or a guard 560 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: at the at the deadline, and come February Portland picks 561 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: up another first or something. What would be funny is 562 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: if Boston traded I don't I'm assuming this is allowed. 563 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: They went and got or acquired Robert Williams again at 564 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: the deadline. Now they'd have to give up something I 565 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: don't know what, But they got Williams because he fits 566 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: great in Boston as like the help defender. They don't 567 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: really have that anymore, but you've got great wing defenders. Rob, 568 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: I really like this deal for Boston. I think Boston's 569 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: top team in the East, followed by Milwaukee, and I 570 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: don't have three yet, but it might be the Knicks 571 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: or Hawks. 572 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 573 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: I was talking to one of the other producers on 574 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: this pod, Josh. He was on the pod last week, 575 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, sitting in with you. I believe the day 576 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: of the trade. He was sitting in with you with 577 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: the Damian Liller trade, and me and him talked off 578 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: the air and I told him and he was saying 579 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: that he still likes Milwaukee over Boston. And I wish 580 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: he was sitting in on this one because I would 581 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: tell him to his face that no, you are dead. 582 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: Wrong, my good man. 583 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: Look Boston. The point about them having any size is legitimate. 584 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: We talked on this pod that we didn't like the 585 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: Grant Williams trade to Dallas at the time because it 586 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: was just a salary dump, like they had no reason 587 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: to get rid of him. He served at miss even 588 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: if Joe Mozula doesn't like him in the postseason, at minimum, 589 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: he's an innings eater right. He's a guy who can 590 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: spell Al Horford, who's really old. He can spell Porzingis, 591 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: who's very injury prone. During the regular season, give you 592 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five minutes and you don't feel like you're 593 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: losing a heck of a lot because he's a very 594 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: solid guy. Having said that, when you get to the postseason, everything, 595 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: as you know, is just about matchups. It's not always 596 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: the best team that ends up winning. It's how do 597 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: the matchups work in your favors. You're able to survive 598 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: in advance, survive in advance, and ultimately I think you 599 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: would agree that it's gonna come down to Boston and 600 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: Milwaukee assuming hew, those are the two teams that are 601 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: clearly the top two of the East, and how do 602 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: they match up with one another in a series. I 603 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: like Damian Lillard. I think he's fantastic. I wish he'd 604 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: be a Laker, but he's not. This what this deal does, though, 605 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: is it gives them an added defender and Drew Holliday 606 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: who they can put and sick on Damian Lillard and 607 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: make him work. You're not gonna stop a guy like 608 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: Damian Little, but you can make it tough on him. 609 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: They now have four guys who can make it really 610 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: tough on him in Holiday, Derek White, Tatum, and Brown. 611 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: On the flip side, now you have at least four guys, 612 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: probably even five if you count Porzingis that are gonna 613 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: be able to hunt Damian Lillard in a way that 614 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: Milwaukee cannot do. In the inverse two to Boston, like 615 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: Al Horford is probably the worst defender of that group 616 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: of that six guys that they have there, and he's 617 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: a very solid defender. We saw that in the postseason. 618 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: There were times where you know, Jimmy Butler was going 619 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: at him and he was, you know, giving him, making 620 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: him work at the minimum. You know, bam Adebayo wasn't 621 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: getting easy buckets on a on Al Horford. Jannis historically 622 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: does not get easy buckets. I mean, he still gets his, 623 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: but it's not like he's just dominating him the way 624 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: that you would expect. Boston now not only can they 625 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: throw multiple bodies a Dame, but they have several guys 626 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: who are gonna be able to isolate. Hey, bring Dame 627 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: up the pick and roll. We're gonna go right at him. 628 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum is going to go to work on Damian 629 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: Lillard repeatedly. Jalen Brown even tho we can't even dribble, 630 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: is gonna be able to get to a one one 631 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: dribble pull up against Damian Lillard. So when it's that 632 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: close and these two teams are that evenly match, you 633 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: look for those little minuscule differences. And that's why I 634 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: think Boston right now, if I had to pick, I 635 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: definitely think they'd be the ones come out of the 636 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference sixers. 637 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: And James Harden sounds like he's not at camp, sounds 638 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 2: like there's no end in sight, like they're going downhill. 639 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, I I we'll talk a little. We 640 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: We got like what three weeks four weeks before the 641 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: NBA season starts, so we'll get back to it. I 642 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: just this Drew Holiday trade is just to me, is massive. 643 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: Now if you're looking macro big picture NBA, I mean 644 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 2: Denver Boston in the finals, Phoenix Boston, Phoenix Boston would 645 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: be an awesome, incredible series with all those wings. 646 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: I think there's like four or five teams in the 647 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: West that you could that you could make a legitimate 648 00:32:59,160 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: case to. 649 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: Win the West Lake in there. 650 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Clippers. 651 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the health thing is the big problem. But 652 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: when Kawhi Leonard plays, he's still awesome. He just doesn't 653 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: play that much. 654 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: Didn't they beat the Suns in Game one? 655 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 3: They did, and then you know, he hurt his knee again. 656 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: Kawi was like, Oh, he's gonna rest. We're like he's 657 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: load man, he needs surgery. It's like, ah, you're right, 658 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: all right. Well, anyways, that wraps up a fun Tuesday podcast. 659 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow. I got a guest. You're gonna 660 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 2: like him. Oh An NFL Draft twenty twenty four, Oh 661 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: getting Spicy Bears fans tune in Faux Show. Talk to 662 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: you tomorrow.