Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself
Speaker 1: perfectly clear. But you're a guest to my home. You
Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guests,
Speaker 1: your presences presence enough. I already had too much stuff,
Speaker 1: So how did you dare to surbey me?
Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridgard Wineker. We
Speaker 2: are in the studio. If if you didn't listen to
Speaker 2: last week's rerun, that's first of all, come on, you know.
Speaker 2: I left a little message on that one because I'm
Speaker 2: you know, I like to take care of everybody, and
Speaker 2: I in that episode I let everyone know that I'm alive,
Speaker 2: and now again I'm still alive. Things have been interesting
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles and on fire, so we're just kind
Speaker 2: of doing everything one step at a time. But I've
Speaker 2: cleaned the ash and the debris out of the backyard.
Speaker 2: But the air, I think, is probably going to be
Speaker 2: poisoned for the next who knows how long. So we're
Speaker 2: here in the wonderful studio on Aalise is not here.
Speaker 2: They've cooked up some excuse not to be here, and
Speaker 2: I find that just a little suspicious, considering we still
Speaker 2: don't know who started all of these fires, but we'll
Speaker 2: just have to wait and see what we find out
Speaker 2: about them in the future. On aalise, if you're listening,
Speaker 2: I've got my eye on you. Is there anything else?
Speaker 2: My cognitive decline is just exhilarating. I more and more
Speaker 2: forget to put on deodoranto the morning, and then it's
Speaker 2: two hours later I'm putting it on. I don't know
Speaker 2: what's happening. It's probably a red flag. Everybody keep an
Speaker 2: eye on that. And I think that's everything. I think
Speaker 2: we should get into the podcast. I just think today's
Speaker 2: guest is absolutely wonderful. It's Eric Legend. Eric. Welcome to
Speaker 2: I said no gifts, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: I'm very thrilled to be here.
Speaker 2: You're driving from over from kind of my neighborhood. I'm
Speaker 2: in Highland Park. You're an Eagle row. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: how's the you know, how is the last week been
Speaker 2: for you?
Speaker 3: It's been a true roller coaster, I feel, and I
Speaker 3: mean that in like, there have been some really great
Speaker 3: moments and touching moments, sure, and some awful moments, and
Speaker 3: it's not necessarily the obvious ones. It's like, so I'll
Speaker 3: just say when we had have to leave our house.
Speaker 3: It was not a mandatory evacuation, but we were like
Speaker 3: I looked at the map and we were the first
Speaker 3: house on the other side of the freeway from a
Speaker 3: mandatory evacuation, and I'm like, maybe we go. I have
Speaker 3: three children, And so we got up in the morning
Speaker 3: and we left and in the car I was talking
Speaker 3: to my wife about like what do we bring? And
Speaker 3: we had this very touching moment that lasted into our
Speaker 3: car ride, which was this, what are we talking about
Speaker 3: are stuff for? Like this is our we are our stuff,
Speaker 3: we are our house. And then we had this like
Speaker 3: really beautiful ride. And then that night I was like,
Speaker 3: I was curious to look at my like home insurance policy.
Speaker 3: I'm curious, like what happens if our house burns down.
Speaker 3: I saw the amount we would get back, and I
Speaker 3: was like, I need to get back to the house
Speaker 3: and protect our stuff, our real stuff. So that set
Speaker 3: off this is just like personal anxiety. And then to
Speaker 3: see everything happening with people I know, and we were
Speaker 3: very very lucky and fortunate for us our personal home
Speaker 3: in our neighborhood, but then you see people who aren't,
Speaker 3: and you go to this dark place on their behalf
Speaker 3: this tory place.
Speaker 2: But then this is the roller coaster part.
Speaker 3: It's like I see like the gofundmes, which I think
Speaker 3: is like very needed, like I.
Speaker 2: Said, insurance policy.
Speaker 3: But then there's like the one where I'm like, you
Speaker 3: have family money.
Speaker 2: So it should be that should be at the top
Speaker 2: of every got fund me. There was a trust fund.
Speaker 3: So long answer to your to your question, but I
Speaker 3: feel like that's that's the vibe right now for me.
Speaker 3: I'm like all over the place in self involved ways,
Speaker 3: all over the place and how I'm supposed to be
Speaker 3: feeling and how I do feel.
Speaker 2: For the city.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm claiming Los Angeles like more than
Speaker 3: I ever have. Like I'm watching the coverage and I'm
Speaker 3: watching it burn I'm like, I love this place. I
Speaker 3: love the Magic Castle.
Speaker 2: Actually I have personal problems with the Magic Castle, but
Speaker 2: that aside. They made me where I've been there once
Speaker 2: and I wasn't dressed up enough and they made me
Speaker 2: wear I think size forty two suit pant the entire night.
Speaker 3: I was an mad for some reason. When they were
Speaker 3: interviewing like the inexplicably heavily Israeli accented manager of the
Speaker 3: Magic Castle all I could think of was like, I
Speaker 3: don't know why. I don't think a lot about Trump,
Speaker 3: but I was thinking about him watching it, and I'm
Speaker 3: absolutely sure he turned to whoever he was with and went, I've.
Speaker 2: Actually been there.
Speaker 3: I've been to the magic they make you say abrika
Speaker 3: dabra on the way and I can't do a good Trump.
Speaker 3: But I was one hundred percent sure he was saying mad.
Speaker 2: Guaranteed I was probably wearing his suit pants that he
Speaker 2: left behind. It's all coming together, no, you know, I
Speaker 2: like the thing was crazy to me. I went to
Speaker 2: bed Tuesday night when everything was really starting to blaze,
Speaker 2: and there was like it's only going to get worse
Speaker 2: sort of information, and I slept so well. I don't
Speaker 2: I fell asleep almost immediately, had a full night sleep.
Speaker 2: The things that will normally keep me up at night,
Speaker 2: or absolutely I'll say one wrong word at a party
Speaker 2: and it'll be two weeks of insomnia. Yeah, but this
Speaker 2: I just felt. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I respect that I am jealous I have. I have
Speaker 3: three children. It's not just that I'm worried about them.
Speaker 3: It's that my wife and I think we have like
Speaker 3: what's a very typical dynamic where one parent is like
Speaker 3: the anxious warrior and the other ones the like it'll
Speaker 3: be fine, and I'm the it'll be fine guy. But
Speaker 3: what that does to you is the warrior just like drops.
Speaker 2: Things on you.
Speaker 3: And if you are the one, the lackadaisical one, you're
Speaker 3: the one that's gonna be in trouble if your family burns, right,
Speaker 3: and you were the one that said not to worry about.
Speaker 3: So my wife's just like, I think we should evacuate,
Speaker 3: but it's vile. Let's go to sleep. And so then
Speaker 3: I'm up all night, like checking the alerts on this
Speaker 3: like watch whatever, watch duty. I'm the century who's up
Speaker 3: all night even though I think it's going to be fine.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then we woke up and like, of course, I
Speaker 3: looked at it and they had all moved towards us,
Speaker 3: and I was like, we actually.
Speaker 2: Creeping feeling Yeah, now did you leave? I left? I
Speaker 2: left Wednesday morning, which was another thing, the most shocking
Speaker 2: thing in the world is I made a decision which
Speaker 2: in any other situation would have been days or weeks
Speaker 2: of me thinking about it. But like I woke up
Speaker 2: that morning feeling very refreshed, and there was orange light
Speaker 2: kind of pouring through my house and smoke in the air,
Speaker 2: and so I quickly found things that are kind of irreplaceable,
Speaker 2: like bags of money and jewelry obviously put them in
Speaker 2: the car and then left. And fortunately I have a
Speaker 2: couple of friends who live in Palm Springs and I
Speaker 2: got to stay with them. Ended up being five days,
Speaker 2: and I started to feel like, oh, I've moved in here.
Speaker 2: But I felt so lucky.
Speaker 3: And someone's going to make like a two million dollar
Speaker 3: indie film about the Palm Springs Crew.
Speaker 2: It'll be the worst thing that ever exists. It's going
Speaker 2: to be called deserted and everyone will just hate it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the running around grabbing things is truly insane if
Speaker 3: you're not if you hadn't thought about it before. I
Speaker 3: think the only thing I grabbed, like we had this
Speaker 3: one box of like documents that nobody would care about
Speaker 3: except us. But I right before I left, I was like,
Speaker 3: oh wait, and I ran into the closet and I
Speaker 3: grabbed three hundred dollars that I had in cash, and
Speaker 3: I had cash in my wallet, like I had a
Speaker 3: few boxs like, but I was just like this is
Speaker 3: like I know that like per ounce this is like
Speaker 3: the most valuable thing in the house.
Speaker 2: You leave your children behind, You've got three hundred dollars
Speaker 2: on the freeway. Yeah, it was. It was of strange
Speaker 2: and like I wasn't even sure if I should come
Speaker 2: back yet, except for starting to feel like I was
Speaker 2: being rude staying at my friend's house that long. So
Speaker 2: I think just like me being anxious about staying in
Speaker 2: someone else's home was what really drove me back to
Speaker 2: a city that was still kind of actively on fire.
Speaker 2: But now I think it's for past the worst of it,
Speaker 2: I think. So, I mean I did this.
Speaker 3: I was at my mother in law's and then I
Speaker 3: had we had a bought Mitzvah to go to in
Speaker 3: San Francisco, and we were like I had canceled it
Speaker 3: all and uh, and then we were just talking about like, well,
Speaker 3: we're just gonna be here and like, let's say our
Speaker 3: house burns down, wouldn't it be kind of fun to
Speaker 3: be like dancing to like celebrate good times at about
Speaker 3: Mitzvah aspose just sitting here watching it on the news.
Speaker 3: So we went and then we came back and it
Speaker 3: was just like seeing the air quality as good, which
Speaker 3: like I know we've got all like the seeds of doubt.
Speaker 2: Of what's something you listening to a QI? Okay, you've
Speaker 2: looked at five different apps and outside with your own
Speaker 2: eyes and nose.
Speaker 3: And it was again started with my wife going, I
Speaker 3: don't think we can go outside without a mask because
Speaker 3: I know that AQI is good, but uh, I saw
Speaker 3: that there's other stuff in the air, Like where did
Speaker 3: you see that? It was in a comment on Instagram
Speaker 3: under a video that someone I don't know posted. But
Speaker 3: then it's like, so then it's on me if we
Speaker 3: get lung cancer exactly. So I like did some digging
Speaker 3: and I'm like, maybe it is not good. I don't
Speaker 3: know so, but we're here and we're staying mostly inside.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, the air quality thing, I'm like, I guess
Speaker 2: I'll just put on a mask. I mean, as opposed
Speaker 2: to the typically crystal clear error in Los Angeles were
Speaker 2: talking about. But I need to stop getting news from
Speaker 2: Instagram from my most mentally ill friends. I think that's
Speaker 2: the thing. Just the most anxious people in the world
Speaker 2: just giving me the most panicked takes on everything.
Speaker 3: It's it's truly the a major player in the down
Speaker 3: ball of our society. But I am on it constantly.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course. That's where I was getting most
Speaker 2: of my news about this until somebody posted a thing
Speaker 2: that was like that truly made me think, oh, now
Speaker 2: my house is going to burn down. So I looked
Speaker 2: at the full article and I was like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is nowhere near me. I context helped a little bit. Yeah, yeah, right, Well, anyway,
Speaker 2: have you seen this documentary about the man who's trying
Speaker 2: to live forever? I have not. Are you familiar with
Speaker 2: this guy?
Speaker 3: I'm familiar with him. Like the things people say about
Speaker 3: him on Twitter.
Speaker 2: What are they saying about him on Twitter? I think
Speaker 2: he's like a ghoul and.
Speaker 3: That he's uh, it's like the drinking the blood of
Speaker 3: the young type vibees.
Speaker 2: Except for it's his son that he's drinking the blood
Speaker 2: of essentially, is so bizarre. I'm shocked back.
Speaker 3: Guy's a dad, and he does not give dad vibes
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 2: I think he has several children, but I think a
Speaker 2: lot of the family is estranged, but he's the oldest
Speaker 2: son has kind of come back into his life just
Speaker 2: at the right time to give him his blood of.
Speaker 3: Course, plasma blood both.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I'm not trying to correct you.
Speaker 2: I just don't know. I feel like i've heard Actually.
Speaker 3: I think it's the plan what he needs and there's
Speaker 3: a benefit to his son because.
Speaker 2: And there's some vitamins. I'd like to tell you it
Speaker 2: must what is it's probably who am I? What am
Speaker 2: I talking about? Plasma? Probably maybe you.
Speaker 3: Got to tell me if you want me to watch
Speaker 3: these documentaries before I come on the podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, this is a good selling point. He is starting
Speaker 2: to look like a like a stern Pilgrim wife. That's
Speaker 2: that's something to look at. That sounds right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen some photos on he's posting the photos
Speaker 3: like look, how youthful I look right.
Speaker 2: I think he doesn't look you. It's full. He looks strange.
Speaker 3: Does he have a bioage or a what is it
Speaker 3: like A he's got his chronological agent bioage.
Speaker 2: I think his bioage is Again, I watched this entire
Speaker 2: documentary and came away with no concrete answers for you.
Speaker 2: But I would say it's probably like thirty or something.
Speaker 2: But what he's talking to people who's paying to give
Speaker 2: him this information? So who knows for sure? But he's
Speaker 2: taking truly like three pounds of itamins a day. He's
Speaker 2: staying inside all the time.
Speaker 3: It's just like the benefit of being when I think
Speaker 3: about like how old I am now, which is I'm
Speaker 3: going to turn forty six Bridgard No, And also why no,
Speaker 3: I'm turning forty five this month and it's the twenty eighth,
Speaker 3: if you want to, okay, I'm planning a little something,
Speaker 3: a little okay. So the benefit of being thirty to
Speaker 3: me wouldn't be like I guess it would be nice
Speaker 3: to be able to have like one more glass of
Speaker 3: alcohol without keeping me up all night. But it's really
Speaker 3: like situational, right, like oh yeah, of course, the freedom,
Speaker 3: the optimism, what's ahead of you?
Speaker 2: Those things like those are all naive. Yeah, exactly that anymore.
Speaker 3: I can't get that back, so it might as well
Speaker 3: like eat shit, yeah don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know that there's been a biological age I've
Speaker 2: been yet that I'm like, oh, I want that back.
Speaker 2: There's been no time in my life where I felt
Speaker 2: good physically.
Speaker 3: Fourteen I feel like was a good year. I want
Speaker 3: to be the guy that's like my bioage is fourteen.
Speaker 3: I feel pretty rad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a maybe at some point maybe when I
Speaker 2: hit my seventies or something, I'll be like, Okay, it's
Speaker 2: time to turn back the clock and hopefully this guy's
Speaker 2: work and it is work, I'll be able to take
Speaker 2: advantage of that. But as of right now, I.
Speaker 3: Feel similarly to climate change, where I'm just like, we've
Speaker 3: gone too far. There's nothing preventative I could do that's
Speaker 3: going to move the needle, so I have to rely
Speaker 3: on technology to save me. So there's already like new
Speaker 3: knees and hips that are pretty good now, So I
Speaker 3: think when I'm seventy, they'll be like better than original
Speaker 3: hips and knees.
Speaker 2: That's what I used to think. But as I like
Speaker 2: creep towards that, I'm like, oh, it's only a few decades.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they're not going to be able to save me.
Speaker 3: I think they should call we should rebrand aging as creeping.
Speaker 2: It's just creep day creeping up to forty five now, No.
Speaker 2: I Yeah, I used to be like, oh, I don't
Speaker 2: really have to take care of myself because eventually they're
Speaker 2: just going to have something. Yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 3: I am starting to be like, like, there is some
Speaker 3: stuff I'm doing that I'm trying to be like especially
Speaker 3: from having kids.
Speaker 2: I am just like I want to.
Speaker 3: See what happens, just pure curiosity about like what's going
Speaker 3: to happen with them.
Speaker 2: That's nothing to do with love.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, the love is there, the love, the
Speaker 3: love will live forever, but I will not. And I
Speaker 3: make that clear of them every day.
Speaker 2: I'm going to die multiple times before and after every morning, sweetheart.
Speaker 3: And so like, yeah, I am starting to think about that.
Speaker 3: Actually at my am like I think I've put it
Speaker 3: off and that I need to start like doing all
Speaker 3: the stuff they say you need to do of just
Speaker 3: like less processed food and working out with weights.
Speaker 2: I guess the real new thing. I think I feel
Speaker 2: like there's an article every day that's like, swallow as
Speaker 2: much protein as you possibly can every day while working
Speaker 2: your muscles.
Speaker 3: I agree with you that it's a new thing in
Speaker 3: terms of like they've proven it, but it's hard to
Speaker 3: say it's a new thing. No, lifting weights and eating
Speaker 3: healthy it's not at the forefront of lifestyle science, but
Speaker 3: it seems like it is.
Speaker 2: It's a fad and it's gonna blow over of their
Speaker 2: TikTok craze. People are gonna stop lifting weights and taking
Speaker 2: care of themselves. So what dietary changes have you really made?
Speaker 2: What are you eating?
Speaker 3: This is all aspirational, it's all stuff I've been saying
Speaker 3: I'm doing. But it's like then, like the fires happen
Speaker 3: and you're like, I'm not doing that now. I'll do
Speaker 3: it when fire is over it. Yes, we've conquered fire.
Speaker 3: Then I will start cutting out sugar that's not like natural, right,
Speaker 3: So that's the goal. And fasting. I was doing well
Speaker 3: with fasting for a while.
Speaker 2: You were doing fasting how like every day.
Speaker 3: Or I was doing it like every other day. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't eat all day long, I from wake up to dinner.
Speaker 3: And then I started going. I started actually feeling good
Speaker 3: from it pretty quickly, and so I would do longer
Speaker 3: and longer fast And then I got up to like
Speaker 3: a five day fast where I didn't I really eat.
Speaker 3: I had like a cup of broth or something five days. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and then I started to have some health problems.
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 3: So I don't think I don't think related to the
Speaker 3: fasting for the record, Okay, but when I'm going through,
Speaker 3: I'm finding as I get older, I somehow get more fragile.
Speaker 3: I thought I was going to get stronger and more
Speaker 3: resilient and more I'm getting more free. I'm going the
Speaker 3: other way with it because I am I'm kind of
Speaker 3: like a I like to go against the knowledge, the contrarian.
Speaker 3: So I'm getting weaker willed. And anytime like something disrupts
Speaker 3: my schedule, the fire, if I get sick, if like
Speaker 3: on one of my kids has something going on, I
Speaker 3: just all bets are off for like self care.
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, of course, So.
Speaker 3: I kind of stopped doing that, and but I'm trying
Speaker 3: to get back to that. And I think sugar is
Speaker 3: a lot of it for me. If I'm not eating it,
Speaker 3: I do feel better.
Speaker 2: And like when you're fasting, I mean for me, I'm
Speaker 2: just in I mean, and it's not fasting, I'm just
Speaker 2: like between meals in the worst possible mood.
Speaker 3: Did you refer to the three or so hours between
Speaker 3: breakfast and unjest fasting and fast?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Does it affect your mood?
Speaker 3: The sometimes it does? And the first time I did it,
Speaker 3: it did. I used to fast like once a year
Speaker 3: for Yom Kapor, the Jewish hollowing, and it would always.
Speaker 2: Affect my mood.
Speaker 3: But when you do it like a few times in
Speaker 3: a row. I would say by the second or third time,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this feels good and right and
Speaker 3: actually gives me energy. Wow. The way it was explained
Speaker 3: in a book that I didn't bother to look if
Speaker 3: there was any proof for was that from an evolutionary perspective,
Speaker 3: when we would go on the hunt, we would have
Speaker 3: we would go without food for these long hunts, right,
Speaker 3: and then you if you didn't catch anything, like if
Speaker 3: you the people who would then just die were sort
Speaker 3: of like weeded out.
Speaker 2: But the people who.
Speaker 3: Found like another reserve of energy and actually clarity and
Speaker 3: more focus would get better at hunting because somehow.
Speaker 2: Your body is like we've got a we have to yes,
Speaker 2: we have to Yeah.
Speaker 3: So for me it would be like, you know, we
Speaker 3: we have to find this blow for act two of
Speaker 3: episode three.
Speaker 2: This was going to be my question for you doing
Speaker 2: it while working and you were yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh god.
Speaker 2: I would be an absolute nightmare at the office.
Speaker 3: The writers didn't like it, but I didn't do it
Speaker 3: for I Actually like this last season of the show
Speaker 3: that I was doing, I got I ended up in
Speaker 3: the hospital in the middle of it, and after that
Speaker 3: it was like there was no fasting. There was no
Speaker 3: like in regard to anything except what I needed in
Speaker 3: the moment for the last few months.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. I've had bosses in the past who will
Speaker 2: do fasting and you knew the day they were doing
Speaker 2: it because like suddenly no pitch was being accepted. You
Speaker 2: were doing you were doing so much more work, and
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, they're just in a bad mood. Nothing
Speaker 2: will please this person, and you hope that they accidentally
Speaker 2: eat a life saver or something, right right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I found that if I was like eating healthy and fasting,
Speaker 3: I would find the clarity and feel good. But if
Speaker 3: I was using the breaking the fast as an excuse
Speaker 3: to eat like shit, then it would just be this.
Speaker 2: Like all over the place, yo yo kin, Yeah, are
Speaker 2: you a big treat eater? Unfortunately?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have like a major sweet tooth. And this
Speaker 3: is one of the many ways that like having kids
Speaker 3: sort of exposes you because my first my oldest son.
Speaker 3: I have three boys, and the oldest son has what
Speaker 3: I have, but I've never seen it from the outside.
Speaker 3: Right he is like if there's ever a thing where
Speaker 3: it's like a pinata or something like that where they're
Speaker 3: like we're giving out candy like he's running in and
Speaker 3: hoarding it. He's like, this is all mine and I'll
Speaker 3: eat it now.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: And that's uh, that's kind of who I am, and
Speaker 3: so and I my second son just like couldn't care less.
Speaker 3: I'll have a couple bites and be like my body's
Speaker 3: telling me I'm full, and I'm like it it must
Speaker 3: be nice.
Speaker 2: Do you have like a go to treat?
Speaker 3: It's like whatever is It's not candy, it's like whatever
Speaker 3: kind of like rich. It could be a donut that's
Speaker 3: like a peanut butter chocolate donut with marshmallow frosting? Is
Speaker 3: that my go to tra It's like the most decadent
Speaker 3: thing possible would be my go to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've noticed, like as a kid, candy was obviously
Speaker 2: a thing, And now if I ever have like a
Speaker 2: full sized candy bar, I feel so insane. I'm like
Speaker 2: what am I doing eating a candy bar? But like
Speaker 2: I love cookies and cake and that kind of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like I'll.
Speaker 3: Eat this stuff that has that much sugar in it,
Speaker 3: just not in such an unabashed I wanted to at
Speaker 3: least be a little ashamed of it.
Speaker 2: So right this was made recently it's healthy. Oh well,
Speaker 2: there's something else I'd like to talk to you about.
Speaker 2: I don't love bringing it up, but I don't really
Speaker 2: feel like I have a choice right now. Look, the
Speaker 2: podcast is called I said no gifts, and I thought,
Speaker 2: Eric will come on. He's a lovely person, will have
Speaker 2: a nice time. What could go wrong, you know? And
Speaker 2: obviously you've been receiving plenty of emails you know the
Speaker 2: name of the podcast. So I was sitting here minding
Speaker 2: my own business in the studio and here you come
Speaker 2: trotting in holding a massive gift bag, which I'm going
Speaker 2: to assume is for me. It is indeed for you. Okay.
Speaker 3: Interesting, So I who's listening to a couple of several
Speaker 3: of podcast episodes for your show so that I could
Speaker 3: pretend I listened to all of them, and I noticed
Speaker 3: that there were some people who violated the role.
Speaker 2: Interesting, and I.
Speaker 3: This is like a trigger area for me of anxiety,
Speaker 3: Like nothing can ruin a moment of like a vacation
Speaker 3: for me more than like, am I supposed to tip
Speaker 3: this guy? And I always try to error on the
Speaker 3: side of something I can't be shamed for or keep
Speaker 3: myself up about.
Speaker 2: So I did bring a gift.
Speaker 3: I hope it was not the wrong move, but I
Speaker 3: felt moved to bring something.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm we'll just completely shame you. You made
Speaker 2: the wrong choice. But I mean it's here. It's so
Speaker 2: big it's tempting that to not open. I mean, I
Speaker 2: have to open.
Speaker 3: I wanted to bring it something with a splash and
Speaker 3: also something that was in my closet, and h this
Speaker 3: was one of the extra gift bags that we had.
Speaker 2: It's a gift bag that I would say is about
Speaker 2: as half as tall as I am with a shark. Yes,
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 3: Some insane child brought this to my home. I imagine at
Speaker 3: some point if you notice there's this shark bite taken
Speaker 3: in the top.
Speaker 2: We've gone too far with gift bags. It has like
Speaker 2: a novelty bite out of it that's actually been Wow,
Speaker 2: that's fascinating. I mean, this is this is more don't
Speaker 2: do this. It's not as big as a shark bite,
Speaker 2: so it doesn't make any sense logically.
Speaker 3: It's also like the gift bag companies are like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is what we're doing.
Speaker 2: Now you had to We've got to push the interactive. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going to reach into this reaching in hand. Lol,
Speaker 2: we've got some tissue. We love some tissue by the
Speaker 2: mic and.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, everyone loves a book.
Speaker 2: It's a victory for Ankle's man search for meeting. I
Speaker 2: have this on my kindle and it's always just there.
Speaker 2: Is it really mocking here? It's like I need to
Speaker 2: get around to it, but I still haven't.
Speaker 3: Well, the nice thing about hard Top He's able to
Speaker 3: get this one signed for you.
Speaker 2: So if you if you open it up there, oh
Speaker 2: this is right in his voice. This is bee Wine.
Speaker 2: Enjoy the enjoy all the meaning your boy. Vic. These
Speaker 2: are the typical emails I'm getting from him.
Speaker 3: Ye DMS. He's he likes being in touch with like this,
Speaker 3: sort of like gen Z jargon.
Speaker 2: I love, by the way, to have a on this book.
Speaker 2: It says over sixteen million copies, so that's like putting
Speaker 2: that on the Bible or insane. So many people are
Speaker 2: seeking meaning.
Speaker 3: Let this Holocaust survivor tell you what he gleaned from
Speaker 3: watching thousands die.
Speaker 2: Reese Witherspoon loves it. Wow, this is fast. Okay, Well
Speaker 2: tell me more about why you brought this so.
Speaker 3: Everybody everybody needs more meaning. And I thought especially during
Speaker 3: this time that because I was I was personally going
Speaker 3: through these ups and downs, that I might get back
Speaker 3: into this book, which I read, I don't know, like
Speaker 3: almost a decade ago, and that thing that gets thrown
Speaker 3: around a love like a book that changed my life
Speaker 3: or whatever, this one actually did. I read this and
Speaker 3: then I left my job at the time.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I read this during like season three of Superstore, and
Speaker 3: I read this book and it's about purpose and how
Speaker 3: you're getting in touch with your purpose can sort of
Speaker 3: like get you through anything essentially, and I was what
Speaker 3: I took from this was I.
Speaker 2: Can't write any more Glenn Bee.
Speaker 3: Stories, and so I gave up the living I was
Speaker 3: making and I had one kid in one on the way.
Speaker 3: And that's how much this book affected me. And I
Speaker 3: thought you might want to be affected.
Speaker 2: You looked at me and said, there's someone with a
Speaker 2: hollow life.
Speaker 3: There's someone who needs some train anything.
Speaker 2: But well, I didn't know that about that. You would
Speaker 2: quit the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And don't get me wrong, I went onto a
Speaker 3: different show like three months later, but he was on
Speaker 3: HBO oh okay, and it was a bad experience. But
Speaker 3: but yeah, I find I think what I'm really doing
Speaker 3: is projecting onto you what I'm feeling like I need
Speaker 3: to get back in touch with. Even by getting it
Speaker 3: for you picked it up, it's used, it's I leafed
Speaker 3: through a couple of pages and was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I forgot about that way of having meaning and so
Speaker 3: it's already helping me.
Speaker 2: So when you quit the job and before you realized
Speaker 2: that you were wrong and that you had to get
Speaker 2: back to television the most meaningful thing of all, what
Speaker 2: were those three months? Like? Are you trying new things? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I was trying to just well at first, I was like,
Speaker 3: is it about like my writing and my career? And
Speaker 3: not my career, but I mean like what I want
Speaker 3: to do as a writer, because maybe this, Maybe I
Speaker 3: have something else in me that's not this, And if
Speaker 3: I keep doing this, is it going to make my
Speaker 3: writing just like this?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: And and then I had this kind of bad experience
Speaker 3: on something that I thought would be something more in
Speaker 3: line with my point of view. And then my second
Speaker 3: son was born, and I realized afterwards that I am
Speaker 3: like a lot more basic of a person than I
Speaker 3: thought I was, because I think, is it hook where
Speaker 3: he's like being a father? That's my happy thought or whatever.
Speaker 3: I realized afterwards that like my kids and my family
Speaker 3: really were that the right, what I felt like was
Speaker 3: my biggest purpose. And it's not like that took away
Speaker 3: from all the other things I wanted to do, but
Speaker 3: it made those sort of in service of this sort
Speaker 3: of greater at least greater for me thing that I
Speaker 3: that just meant so much to me as a person.
Speaker 2: Don't remember what your question was, but you did the
Speaker 2: powerful combination of hook and man search for me.
Speaker 3: And then Okay, so circling back, Okay, I do have
Speaker 3: I can stick this landing, I swear. So then I realized, like, well,
Speaker 3: if that's true, then if my job doesn't have to
Speaker 3: be my identity, then maybe my job can be something
Speaker 3: that makes me happy that I actually enjoy doing and
Speaker 3: I don't have to put so much on it that
Speaker 3: has to be everything for me, right, And so I
Speaker 3: ended up going like back into these like sitcoms and
Speaker 3: having so much fun working on them. I worked with
Speaker 3: my friend Sierra on Brutherford Falls. I went back home
Speaker 3: and worked with Justin Spitzer on American Auto, and I
Speaker 3: was just like having a blast again, like just laughing
Speaker 3: with people I like all day and then coming home
Speaker 3: to like my beautiful sons and wife and family, and
Speaker 3: that also like stops me from sleeping and occasionally makes
Speaker 3: my life absolutely miserable of course, but I found some
Speaker 3: balance that I think now partially because I have a
Speaker 3: baby that's again ruining my life, I'm hoping to get
Speaker 3: back to.
Speaker 2: Is this therapy? It is? This isn't being recorded? Okay, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: no, no no, I'm going to charge you after this, and
Speaker 2: it's it will not be covered by insurance.
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna submit a super bill, but that's fine.
Speaker 2: Well, if we don't accepting super bills, I will make
Speaker 2: your life hell.
Speaker 3: I will send the super bill to the company and
Speaker 3: I will find a way to subtly signal Louis G.
Speaker 3: Mangioni and just put him in the in the zeitgeist
Speaker 3: of the super bill, to put a little fear of
Speaker 3: them into.
Speaker 2: No. I think that's very nice because I think as
Speaker 2: a writer myself, you get into these TV writing rooms
Speaker 2: and frequently people are so miserable, and it's you're supposed
Speaker 2: to be doing something fun and enjoyable, and it can be,
Speaker 2: but it becomes so stressful for almost no reason at all.
Speaker 2: People just start layering their personal anger and problems into it,
Speaker 2: and the thing you're like supposed to be making funny
Speaker 2: television and everyone's mad. Yeah. Yeah. So to be able
Speaker 2: to just be like to even push a little bit
Speaker 2: of that away, I think is nice. I think you
Speaker 2: get to go home and not be mad totally.
Speaker 3: I think it applies like on a micro level like that,
Speaker 3: and in the sense of, like there has to be
Speaker 3: joy in the room to make a really funny show.
Speaker 3: I think less it's going to be like super cynically
Speaker 3: funny and that's it. There is going to be a
Speaker 3: ton of stress, as I found out running my first
Speaker 3: show this past year. But I think it's the job
Speaker 3: of the showrunner and to a certain extent, like the
Speaker 3: number two on the show, to kind of absorb some
Speaker 3: of that stress and find ways to get it out
Speaker 3: that aren't putting it on all.
Speaker 2: The writers right.
Speaker 3: Sort of do have to be protected like babies in
Speaker 3: a way, just in the sense of like they're there
Speaker 3: to like have fun and solve problems but also be
Speaker 3: playful and come up with creative solutions, and so you
Speaker 3: do need like the vibe is a real thing. But
Speaker 3: also I think like the times we're in Like all
Speaker 3: you hear is about how dark the times we're in
Speaker 3: r and how bad everything is. And I don't subscribe
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 2: Voted for Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: We're all good. No, But I think it's like I
Speaker 3: even now I hear the other voice being like, it's
Speaker 3: easy for you to say, and like it's not. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just it actually is. It's easy for anyone to say,
Speaker 3: like things are bad, but like there's also a lot
Speaker 3: of good in the world. I think, like the aftermath
Speaker 3: of the fires has certainly shown that to people who
Speaker 3: live here. And so I do think that like having
Speaker 3: something that you're that's an anchor in your life. And
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry this isn't funny, but having something that's
Speaker 3: an anchor in your life, I do think can really
Speaker 3: help you change your perspective.
Speaker 2: Of course, is something meaningful, Yeah, and I yeah, obviously,
Speaker 2: like sometimes moment to moment things can be horrible, but like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I remind myself of that all the time. If I
Speaker 2: can just like zoom back into my own body and
Speaker 2: life and just like look around, I'm like okay, I'm okay. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like I'm watching TV.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that can be yours watching TV.
Speaker 2: It is and it always will be. If you want
Speaker 2: to just jam on some of what your purpose could
Speaker 2: be watching a television show that I am reluctantly watching.
Speaker 3: Your purpose, Bridger, is the two screen experience. It had
Speaker 3: to be someone's and buddy, it's yours. That's the real gift.
Speaker 3: It's not the book, Bridger, it was never the book.
Speaker 3: It is the book.
Speaker 2: But no, I really could pick up some hobbies. I
Speaker 2: could use more things in my life. I was rock
Speaker 2: climbing for a while but then stopped doing that, and
Speaker 2: now climbing rock climbing, that's indoor rock climbing. Let's not
Speaker 2: get okay, so foam climbing. What is the material like
Speaker 2: hard plastic climbing? All I know is ain't rock. It's
Speaker 2: certainly hot, and you will never see me on the
Speaker 2: side of an actual rock. No, thank you. Yeah. But
Speaker 2: then that went away and I realized that I've gotten.
Speaker 3: Featuring you like free soloing, and I was just like,
Speaker 3: what this person, No, no, no, At the Pasadena Community Center,
Speaker 3: there's a little six and a half foot wall.
Speaker 2: No, do you have hobbies?
Speaker 3: You know I do have hobbies. I went almost my
Speaker 3: I went a lot of my life without hobbies. After
Speaker 3: my midlife crisis, I feel like happened around thirty nine.
Speaker 3: In anticipation, I was trying to get ahead of it, keep.
Speaker 2: An eye on seventy eight everybody.
Speaker 3: And I started just like jumping into stuff. I very
Speaker 3: lazily played the guitar my whole life, like just chords,
Speaker 3: just I could like try to figure out the basics
Speaker 3: of a song.
Speaker 2: And I was.
Speaker 3: Like, I should try to get better before I die.
Speaker 3: I might as well try. And then I started. I
Speaker 3: had like hurt my ankle playing basketball, and I was
Speaker 3: in bed for a few days, and I started trying
Speaker 3: to learn Italian one of those apps. And then I
Speaker 3: started sailing, like right before the pandemic, and I tried
Speaker 3: to hear.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I saw having a melt up.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was a response to a midlife crist that
Speaker 3: became a joke in my family and extended family of
Speaker 3: like what the next thing is and how there's no
Speaker 3: chance I'll be sailing six months from now. But I
Speaker 3: started just like picking up a few things and just
Speaker 3: going with them. And I started playing tennis about a
Speaker 3: year and a half ago, and I went to my
Speaker 3: first I took a lesson with this guy who is
Speaker 3: about ninety seven years old, and he told me he
Speaker 3: had to sit for most of the lesson because he
Speaker 3: was like in an extreme pain because he needed.
Speaker 2: Surgery that kept getting rescheduled. Anyway, he took this.
Speaker 3: He was like, I'm gonna take a video of you
Speaker 3: and this will be like the before and then we'll
Speaker 3: do like six weeks of lessons and then we'll we'll
Speaker 3: show you how much better you got. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: I haven't hit a ball since I was a kid.
Speaker 3: So I get I get him mostly in and I'm
Speaker 3: like psyched. And after a few he's like, all right, stop,
Speaker 3: I gotta.
Speaker 2: Turn off the machine. Hold on, we're gonna stop the video,
Speaker 2: all right. I think I think we're not ready for
Speaker 2: the before video.
Speaker 3: What he says it was, I'm not good enough for
Speaker 3: the before video. He wants me to take a few
Speaker 3: lessons and build up to the before video.
Speaker 2: This will destroy yourself content.
Speaker 3: I'm telling my wife this and she's in between laughing
Speaker 3: at me. She's like, well, he's probably trying to like
Speaker 3: neg you so that you'll like take more lessons interesting
Speaker 3: and get And I was like, no, I signed up
Speaker 3: for an hour and a half and he cut it
Speaker 3: after under an hour and was like, let's just wrap
Speaker 3: this up.
Speaker 2: I'm sick to my stomach here.
Speaker 3: And so I took that as a like, now I
Speaker 3: need to get good at tennis. Like now I need
Speaker 3: to learn how to play tennis. So I hire this
Speaker 3: local coach and negro Rock named Merlin to teach me.
Speaker 2: Merlin.
Speaker 3: I love the name Merlin, such a good name, and
Speaker 3: so we've never addressed it. I've never been able to
Speaker 3: be like, so let's talk about Merlin, and it's just
Speaker 3: like this his name, and that's it, and I'm not
Speaker 3: allowed to say anything.
Speaker 2: You have to address that with that name. When you
Speaker 2: say my name is Merlin, you have to say something.
Speaker 3: And here's why it should take you six minutes just
Speaker 3: to introduce yourself. When your name is Merlin, there needs
Speaker 3: to be at least one apology.
Speaker 2: Do you. Oh, I guess we can't say his name
Speaker 2: on the podcast, but I assume it's Jones or Anderson. Right,
Speaker 2: So are you feeling like you're you've gotten to a
Speaker 2: point that you could at least do a before tennis video.
Speaker 3: I've certainly graduated well well past before you get competitive.
Speaker 3: I do, Yeah, I am like a I'm a competitive
Speaker 3: person when I'm like into it and something. And so
Speaker 3: I've been taking these live ball classes recently where you're
Speaker 3: kind of like cycling through like these little mini battles.
Speaker 3: It's like a group class, and so you can be
Speaker 3: really competitive for like two points, then like someone destroys
Speaker 3: you and you go wait in line to lose again.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I do get that way in the moment
Speaker 3: and also in life generally, and also very intensely with
Speaker 3: my spouse.
Speaker 2: Very hard to I don't think I've ever successfully hit
Speaker 2: a tennis ball over a.
Speaker 3: Net, really, and that is how many attempts.
Speaker 2: Well, probably not enough, but I think every time I've
Speaker 2: ever tried it hasn't happened.
Speaker 3: It's very it's not as intuitive as it seems like
Speaker 3: it should be, right. And that's a tricky thing about tennis,
Speaker 3: is like you think you're just like whacking the ball
Speaker 3: and that should do it, and then they're like, no,
Speaker 3: you need to actually learn this very awkward like wind
Speaker 3: up and.
Speaker 2: Right the risks in all of that, it's not worth
Speaker 2: my time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm also always I should say I'm competitive without
Speaker 3: having sufficient natural ability to be competitive.
Speaker 2: Oh so it's just it's just hard.
Speaker 3: I have to ruty every situation.
Speaker 2: Are you still playing the guitar?
Speaker 3: I am still playing the guitar. There was a period
Speaker 3: where I was doing it like obsessively, especially during the pandemic.
Speaker 3: I was like practicing eight hours a day, and I
Speaker 3: feel like I got to like intermediate, and I'm I
Speaker 3: think I'm happy at intermediate. So now I'm just like
Speaker 3: trickling a little better every six months.
Speaker 2: Or so, and that's enough to probably play most of
Speaker 2: your favorite music unless.
Speaker 3: It's all like no, and I like these very like
Speaker 3: soft boy like folks songs, and so it's like I've
Speaker 3: reached the point where I'm like, I I can play
Speaker 3: well enough that I feel like I should be impressing
Speaker 3: my wife, but she doesn't care. She'll occasionally, like I'll
Speaker 3: feel like she's about to, like say a compliment or whatever.
Speaker 3: I'll finish a song and she'll be like, do you
Speaker 3: want this chicken broccoli?
Speaker 2: Or should I throw it out? I'm like, oh, devastated,
Speaker 2: I want it, sad. You know, I'm just realizing is
Speaker 2: one of the most irritating things I could possibly see.
Speaker 2: And I apologize if you've done this before, but it's
Speaker 2: when somebody plays the tennis racket like a guitar. Can
Speaker 2: you imagine that's just such an annoying thing.
Speaker 3: But like it's been a while, I'm picturing like a
Speaker 3: Bill and Ted Era, like someone being like like doing
Speaker 3: the noise, and the choice of the noise the knee,
Speaker 3: I think is what would really.
Speaker 2: Push it over its.
Speaker 3: Our mutual friend Justin Shanes told me that I think
Speaker 3: think it was an insult. He was like, you both
Speaker 3: get really annoyed at little things.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting about both of us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said it about you, and then he goes, so,
Speaker 3: I think you guys would really get along, And I
Speaker 3: was like, I thought you were just talking about him.
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm glad to know some of the gossip that's
Speaker 2: going around about me, justin spreading these lies. No, I'm
Speaker 2: very easy going. Nothing bothers me.
Speaker 3: Your whole body tense stuff, it's like absolutely paralyzed.
Speaker 2: No, these are the sort of things that will just
Speaker 2: drive me out of my mind. Somebody, if I were
Speaker 2: to see a friend playing a tennis racket like a guitar,
Speaker 2: they would never hear from me. Again.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of like little I guess there's a
Speaker 3: good internet term millennial core that comes to mind. That's
Speaker 3: just like doing like like silly things that like I'm
Speaker 3: just like a kook, like that vibe of I'm just
Speaker 3: to cook. It could be playing the tennis racket as
Speaker 3: a guitar. It could be like having a you know,
Speaker 3: a pillow with a little expression on it.
Speaker 2: There's so many.
Speaker 3: It's a wide swath of annoying things that I don't know.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's weird. It's like as I get older, I
Speaker 3: get a little more and it worries me that I'm
Speaker 3: getting a little bit more accepting of those things.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, they're not bothering you as much. You're letting
Speaker 2: your guard down.
Speaker 3: My mother in law has a I think she used
Speaker 3: to have like a clock that said it's wine time
Speaker 3: with Cindy.
Speaker 2: Sure. I support that, And I was like that's adorable, that's.
Speaker 3: Great, And then part of me was just like, no,
Speaker 3: you hate this. You must hate this.
Speaker 2: Keep the flame alive. Six months from now, it's wine
Speaker 2: time with a yeah, yeah, no, yeah, it's a whiskey thirty.
Speaker 2: There is still a lot of it. There's like there
Speaker 2: has been this movement of like let people enjoy things,
Speaker 2: and I get where people are coming from.
Speaker 3: I understand as if like live and let Live is
Speaker 3: like this new idea.
Speaker 2: It's like a gen Z trend that and weightlifts. But
Speaker 2: I can't let it happen. I am kind of trying to.
Speaker 3: You're trying to push civilization forward.
Speaker 2: With snobbery, with robs have gotten through the pure snob
Speaker 2: just being kind of a horrible guy. No, I think
Speaker 2: we need to know. My meaning is being critical, overly
Speaker 2: critical and mean. I think that's what we should all
Speaker 2: have in our lives. That should be our core that
Speaker 2: we turned back to. Uh No, but it is just
Speaker 2: you know what you're talking about. And then like there's
Speaker 2: just something about like the risky business of it all.
Speaker 2: Seeing somebody slide across a hardwood floor. I the gun
Speaker 2: is coming out. I'm shooting you. It's too much for me,
Speaker 2: the risky business of it all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it sort of depends though, because like
Speaker 3: it's again not to bring I'm not trying to. I'm
Speaker 3: not trying to shame you for being childless. I'm not trying.
Speaker 2: But again we that we do know your voting record
Speaker 2: and underpopulation is a problem now, but like you see
Speaker 2: kids do these.
Speaker 3: Things from this like pure place, and like, for some
Speaker 3: reason when you said that, I was picturing like one
Speaker 3: of my kids sliding across the floor in their socks,
Speaker 3: and if they did that, I would be like, that's
Speaker 3: the greatest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: But again, it is just child, yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: But so what's interesting about that is that there must
Speaker 3: be an age at which a day actually there must
Speaker 3: be a moment of someone's life where they go from
Speaker 3: being young enough that that's adorable to that is cringey
Speaker 3: and sucks, and they should be told to actually stop
Speaker 3: doing that.
Speaker 2: I think if you can file your taxes when you have,
Speaker 2: when you're responsible for your taxes, none of that goes anymore.
Speaker 3: That's you're giving a lot of leeway. So you're saying, like,
Speaker 3: so there's like nineteen year olds in college can be
Speaker 3: walking around tennis racket.
Speaker 2: They can do the Deliverance banjo song Okay.
Speaker 3: Red when he learned to read okay banjo?
Speaker 2: Not as bad? Not as bad?
Speaker 3: Why is it not as bad? Because it feels like
Speaker 3: it's a little riffing on the guitar thing.
Speaker 2: Right, we're taking it one step removed.
Speaker 3: I'm making fun of the people who play guitar on
Speaker 3: tennis rackets. By playing the banjo on a tennis racket.
Speaker 3: Now I'm off board again.
Speaker 2: No instrument unless you're doing it as a stand up bass.
Speaker 3: So what if someone's doing it to you knowing you
Speaker 3: hate this and they're doing it, but they're still doing it.
Speaker 3: Does the does the irony of it like supersede the
Speaker 3: fact that they're still doing.
Speaker 2: You might as well be ironically shooting someone in that
Speaker 2: hand in front of me. It's still a bad thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I agree with that. Don't put that image
Speaker 2: in front of me just right. Also, speaking of justin
Speaker 2: saying think little things bother me, justin Shane's I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna put him on fold, I'm.
Speaker 3: Sure you've had a list going in your head since
Speaker 3: I said that day.
Speaker 2: No, I I think if my reputation is that I'm
Speaker 2: just no one can please me, and everything bothers me?
Speaker 2: Good for me?
Speaker 3: Good for me?
Speaker 2: What is there any other little thing that really like
Speaker 2: that stands out that bothers you, that's something you just
Speaker 2: can't stand.
Speaker 3: This is so unfair because like of all the strangers
Speaker 3: that do shit constantly that really bothers me. I don't
Speaker 3: love a virtue signal. I really don't. But for some reason,
Speaker 3: the only thing coming to my mind is when my wife,
Speaker 3: who does probably ninety nine plus percent of the upkeep
Speaker 3: in our house, will leave like a dish that's like
Speaker 3: out with like food crusting. That's going to make it
Speaker 3: harder to clean even if she's going to clean it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, but now you're going to use more of
Speaker 3: your time, and that's time you could be hanging out
Speaker 3: with me. You're doing this to me, listening to me
Speaker 3: playing the guitar.
Speaker 2: Coming up with a compliment.
Speaker 3: You are you're stealing from.
Speaker 2: Me right now. You are robbing my life and I
Speaker 2: have meaning that seems say, I can understand that. I
Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, it's hard to like think of those
Speaker 2: things in the moment. I mean, like right now, like I'll.
Speaker 3: Give you an example of like the and this is
Speaker 3: something I do, so I can't I'm putting this on
Speaker 3: other people. But I'm talking about the fires, talking about
Speaker 3: the way it is right now.
Speaker 2: How are you doing.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, as good as can be expected or
Speaker 3: like those answers that's like I'm not allowed to just
Speaker 3: say how.
Speaker 2: I actually yeah, I'm actually fine.
Speaker 3: I just had a really well proportioned flat white from
Speaker 3: and I'm actually doing pretty well instead of the like
Speaker 3: I have to say this in this voice because we
Speaker 3: all know that I'm a monster if I.
Speaker 2: Don't completely just tell me, Just tell me, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I like. The only other thing I can think of
Speaker 2: right now that's like in the last couple of years
Speaker 2: that really sets me off is when I'm in public
Speaker 2: and I see somebody walking their dog that I and
Speaker 2: I like the dog, and I compliment it and they
Speaker 2: give no response. The anger that that sets off in me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just say thank you or literally any reaction.
Speaker 3: I get the furious on behalf the same issue. My
Speaker 3: one of my boys has almost like it's just become
Speaker 3: a habit that any dog, no matter how hideous or mundane,
Speaker 3: he goes I like your dog. I like your dog,
Speaker 3: same c voice every time, same intonation. Uh. And that
Speaker 3: occasionally a person will not answer, And I want to
Speaker 3: be like a child spoke to you, a child was
Speaker 3: vulnerable to you. You answer that child.
Speaker 2: I'm on your side. So if you would like me
Speaker 2: to walk with you, I will have or at least record.
Speaker 2: I can have a little button I push. You could
Speaker 2: say child, You could say a child just said something
Speaker 2: to you. I don't think people will be that shocked.
Speaker 3: I would love to see the reaction I spoke said
Speaker 3: something to you, their double take to you like no,
Speaker 3: but wait, wait but.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know what to do. Oh boy?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Well, before we move on, is there anything left we
Speaker 2: should say about this insult of a book you gave
Speaker 2: to me, just absolutely calling me out as someone with
Speaker 2: nothing going on.
Speaker 3: No, I just I'm excited to see how you wrap
Speaker 3: up the podcast once you read that and realize this
Speaker 3: doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: What if I don't.
Speaker 3: Are you going to delete all the previous ones.
Speaker 2: Yes, they'll be scrubbed from the inn. There will be
Speaker 2: no trace of this thing ever happening. So that's why
Speaker 2: we have you signed an NDA before.
Speaker 3: Do you care that no one listening to this podcast
Speaker 3: has any idea who I am? Because I was listening
Speaker 3: to one of the one of the sample ones I
Speaker 3: listened to. You're talking to someone who was like known,
Speaker 3: and you were like, uh, this person needs no introduction,
Speaker 3: and I remember distinctly thinking I'm gonna need a long introduction.
Speaker 2: He jumped in. I was like, people are like, I
Speaker 2: don't care, guy, and no, you're a person in the world.
Speaker 2: You've created funny television. That's the thing about this podcast.
Speaker 2: I don't care about this like the entertainment industry element
Speaker 2: of it at all. I like the less we talk
Speaker 2: about the worst business in the world the more, and
Speaker 2: so if the listener has a problem with that, that's
Speaker 2: their issue. I knew you would be fun. That's literally
Speaker 2: all I care about.
Speaker 3: Well, I should say I the times that we have
Speaker 3: met and talked, I've always really liked you. You're very
Speaker 3: liked across the board, and I was eager to listen
Speaker 3: to some podcasts and find out why I don't actually
Speaker 3: like you.
Speaker 2: There's so much that hasn't happen yet.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I gotta do a deeper die.
Speaker 2: Mountains of evidence. You're going to despise me. Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: we're going to play a game, but I need a
Speaker 2: number between one and ten from you. Nine. Okay. I
Speaker 2: have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces.
Speaker 2: So right now, you can recommend, promote, do whatever you
Speaker 2: want with the microphone. I'll be right back.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I feel like someone's gonna say something like
Speaker 3: scolding to me if I don't mention my show Saint
Speaker 3: Dennis Medical that we just got renewed for a second season,
Speaker 3: and we're on NBC on Tuesday nights at eight pm
Speaker 3: and then on Peacock. And it's a mockumentary that takes
Speaker 3: place in a hospital in the emergency room.
Speaker 2: Is that a good pitch. It's a great show. Thank you,
Speaker 2: And at least Naomi K. Paragan, former guest of the show,
Speaker 2: writes on it, I love her and it's got a
Speaker 2: lot of great people working on it. Go watch the show.
Speaker 3: What are your like five let's say, favorite storylines and maybe.
Speaker 2: Go from there. No, it is a good show. I mean, like,
Speaker 2: especially right now, there is no comedy on television, so
Speaker 2: to see like a good, solidly made show. I don't know,
Speaker 2: it feels like we're moving back towards like actual sitcoms.
Speaker 2: I think people are like star for a sitcom.
Speaker 3: I think so it's it's weird to like people are
Speaker 3: actually saying that, yes that they and I get it,
Speaker 3: like it's completely it seems I don't know, laughing, seems
Speaker 3: something positive.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Uh, listener, go watch it. Support something
Speaker 2: decent for once in your life.
Speaker 3: This is one of the playing tennis racket as guitar
Speaker 3: things would be like because if we didn't laugh, we'd cry.
Speaker 3: Now they're flooding in saying we're storytellers.
Speaker 2: No, I support that because we are and what we
Speaker 2: do matters. And yeah, okay, oh yeah, there are plenty
Speaker 2: of those. Once you start thinking about people, that's the thing.
Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking about people. Things I don't like our
Speaker 3: people related.
Speaker 2: Start describing their behavior. Yeah, okay, this is actually a
Speaker 2: good game for both of us. It's called Gift or
Speaker 2: a Curse. I'm going to name three things. You're going
Speaker 2: to tell me if there are a gift or a curse?
Speaker 2: And why I know the game.
Speaker 3: I'm an avid listener of three episodes.
Speaker 2: Oh bullshit. And then I'll tell you if you're right
Speaker 2: or wrong, because there are correct answers. Okay, So this
Speaker 2: first one is from a listener named Colin. Gift or
Speaker 2: a curse a very chatty male carrier slash male person.
Speaker 3: As is often the case with these that I've found,
Speaker 3: and I've tried to put myself in this chair and gone,
Speaker 3: how would I answer that on the day, Well, I'm sweating,
Speaker 3: and I there's a lot of variance here. Because I
Speaker 3: love my occasionally chatty male person. He is a wonderful man.
Speaker 3: So I out of being a person who's trying to
Speaker 3: get in touch with my optimism again and not be
Speaker 3: so easily rattled by the world. I am going to
Speaker 3: say that it is a gift. You want to hide
Speaker 3: from your mail man, hide from your mail man, But I,
Speaker 3: for one, I'm going to face him. I'm gonna try
Speaker 3: to do bits with him that he's not going to
Speaker 3: catch onto the fact that they're bits, and he's not
Speaker 3: going to yes and properly, and then we're both gonna
Speaker 3: be feeling awkward, but we're still going to smile, and
Speaker 3: I'm still going to tell him to have a great
Speaker 3: day and still say safe out there.
Speaker 2: Stay safe out there. He hates you.
Speaker 3: He showed me his step count once. It was alarming.
Speaker 2: Eric, correct, it's a gift I love. First of all,
Speaker 2: I love a male person, I love a male person's outfit.
Speaker 2: I love everything about the postal service, and this is
Speaker 2: one job. But first, I mean I should say I'm
Speaker 2: probably so off putting that none of them have ever
Speaker 2: talked to me. I'm just completely unapproachable apparently. But it
Speaker 2: would be a dream to suddenly have this chatty friend
Speaker 2: who's kind of locked into my life. They unlike other people,
Speaker 2: they can't not respond to text. They're at my mailbox
Speaker 2: every day. I would love to have a chatter. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's like they renee my mailman. I think
Speaker 3: I don't think he'd be shy about me saying his name,
Speaker 3: his addresses. He has like chatted my kids up and
Speaker 3: that's micro babysitting and I'm appreciative of that.
Speaker 2: This this person starting to push some boundaries, but I'm not
Speaker 2: totally comfortable. I did.
Speaker 3: I went to a movie with like a new friend once,
Speaker 3: which doesn't happen much as an adult male. And uh,
Speaker 3: and he brought a couple of friends and one of
Speaker 3: his friends brought his mailman. What that I found to
Speaker 3: be both alarming and insane.
Speaker 2: How was this? Uh? Like, how did they explain this
Speaker 2: to you? This is my friend Neil the mailman he said.
Speaker 3: I don't think he said it in front of him.
Speaker 3: I think it was like, this is my buddy Neil,
Speaker 3: and that's actually his mailman.
Speaker 2: That's incredible. What a beautiful relationship. Yeah, we saw Maverick together.
Speaker 2: That's a great guys movie to see. Uh wow, that's
Speaker 2: an interesting I mean, it's dangerous to have a maleman
Speaker 2: that deep in your life, because if there's a betrayal
Speaker 2: or if they do something that they cross the line,
Speaker 2: they still have to come to your house every single day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they What if they see something you don't like,
Speaker 3: some organization you've joined.
Speaker 2: That is return address the KKK and suddenly there's a problem. Okay,
Speaker 2: we've gotten one correct so far. We'll see what happens
Speaker 2: for the rest of the things.
Speaker 3: As I said, I'm competitive, and I'm actually I'm getting
Speaker 3: a little bit of a charge right now of like
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's adrenaline, but it's like it's
Speaker 3: some hormone as coursing through my body that wants to win.
Speaker 2: You're gonna leave the studio very okay. Number two, this
Speaker 2: is from a listener named Lizzie Gift. You're a curse
Speaker 2: audio books with celebrity narrators.
Speaker 3: Audio books with celebrity narrators, this is the challenge. I'm
Speaker 3: not an audiobook guy. I'm gonna say I have to
Speaker 3: say curse because it's very distracting, I would think, because
Speaker 3: you're thinking about all their personal shit, and there are
Speaker 3: probably better readers, maybe a reader who likes to read
Speaker 3: the Harry Potter books to his children. Who does all
Speaker 3: the voices? Who would love to have that gig? But suddenly,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it goes to John c Riley
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 2: Doing the worst British accent.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, curse.
Speaker 2: Correct. Yes, I can't believe this. I can't do a
Speaker 2: celebrity voice in any situation. It is so distracting to me.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm thinking about the entire time. When I
Speaker 2: see an animated movie, I don't I don't want celebrities
Speaker 2: voicing anything because I'm just now picturing and thinking about them,
Speaker 2: and it's poisoning the experience. Unless it's their memoir.
Speaker 3: Sure that okay, of course, of course I'm not only
Speaker 3: fine with that, but I find it highly sus in
Speaker 3: touch with the young people, such if they didn't read.
Speaker 2: If they didn't read their what is that about? That
Speaker 2: is bizarre? How am I supposed to trust anything being said?
Speaker 2: At this point? Even you won't stand behind it. No,
Speaker 2: that's the only time it's appropriate. Otherwise, keep your celebrity
Speaker 2: narrators out of I mean, and this is also speaking
Speaker 2: of someone who doesn't listen to audiobooks, But if I
Speaker 2: were to, I would be enraged to have Glenn Close
Speaker 2: reading you know my John Grishakoff.
Speaker 3: You should read the you should listen to the audiobook
Speaker 3: of Man Search for Meaning. It's Nick Cannon.
Speaker 2: That's the It could only be. It could only be. Okay,
Speaker 2: you've gone two right so far, and now I'm starting
Speaker 2: to get angry. Okay, number three give you no better
Speaker 2: result would be me leaving psyched and you furious. And
Speaker 2: I finished the podcast.
Speaker 3: I have to take it over. You've read the book
Speaker 3: decided that this is harming the world, not helping it.
Speaker 3: It's toxic for you. I take it over. I take
Speaker 3: it to new heights.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm watching you climb in the charts.
Speaker 3: It helps me realize that my children were not my purpose,
Speaker 3: that actually being a podcast celebrity was it for me.
Speaker 2: You do become the Joe Rogan off the left, this mysterious.
Speaker 3: Force finally filling the void. But the success turns me
Speaker 3: to a Joe Rogan of the right. And now there's
Speaker 3: two Joe Rogans and there's zero left Joe Rogans. That
Speaker 3: changes everything. Maybe maybe that is the correct Another thing
Speaker 3: that annoys me.
Speaker 2: Let me be clear. Oh, I don't like when people
Speaker 2: say no. Let me be clear. It's so annoyous, so
Speaker 2: irritating because whatever they're about to say is not that important.
Speaker 3: No, it's become just a handle completely.
Speaker 2: Let me be clear. Oh, don't lecture me, get out
Speaker 2: of my face. Okay. Number three this is from a
Speaker 2: listener named Katie Gift or a curse scented liquid hand
Speaker 2: soap bottles in public restrooms that have been refilled with
Speaker 2: industrial liquid soap.
Speaker 3: This feels like a clear trick one, but is it
Speaker 3: a trick on a trick hmmm? Where it's actually like no, no, no,
Speaker 3: it was really just bad. I am going to say
Speaker 3: that it's a gift and I will tell you why.
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 3: When you started with scented soap in public spaces, I
Speaker 3: was like, fuck that. You don't decide what my hands
Speaker 3: smells like. Even I don't decide that. The world decides
Speaker 3: what these hands smell like, and that's how they smell.
Speaker 3: But anyway, if it's filled with the industrial soap, you
Speaker 3: know you're getting a like a bleachy, sanitized product. There's
Speaker 3: a charm to like some human being went to the
Speaker 3: trouble of using I guess all of the original soap
Speaker 3: and then refilling it with what is clearly fraudulent pink
Speaker 3: soap that is not ASoP or whatever. So there's something
Speaker 3: that makes me smile. If it makes me smile, as
Speaker 3: we said, lefter is important, it's a gift. And that's
Speaker 3: my final answer.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh you win the game. I love this.
Speaker 2: First of all, let's uh, we're being very frugal. We're,
Speaker 2: you know, making do with what we have. And I
Speaker 2: love it. I truly love it. That bottle shouldn't be
Speaker 2: thrown away. That bottle. I love the pink soap. Who
Speaker 2: cares about the expensive soap. Yeah, when you see kind
Speaker 2: of the medicinal, fancy bottle and then you pump it
Speaker 2: and you're getting the pink soap, my heart is a flutter. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy that we said, Okay, we spent fifty
Speaker 2: dollars on the first bottle. From now on, we're getting
Speaker 2: the bags of pink slime and the customer can deal
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 3: Also, we live in America, so if there is a
Speaker 3: bottle that is refillable in a public space that you
Speaker 3: can be private in, someone's put in some weird liquid
Speaker 3: in there and it probably came from and the pink
Speaker 3: soap purifies that yes, that's something designed for America.
Speaker 2: It's essentially penicillin pencilin. So no, it's an absolute gift.
Speaker 2: And I mean, I couldn't be less happy with how
Speaker 2: this game turned out. And you know if, I don't
Speaker 2: even know what to say at this point, but good
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 3: Part of me wants to ask for like an hour
Speaker 3: long bonus round, but part of me is like, take
Speaker 3: the win. Why are you trying to double down? This
Speaker 3: is why I don't go to Vegas. Why am I
Speaker 3: doing this?
Speaker 2: You could ruin everything? Okay, well, congratulations or whatever. Who cares.
Speaker 2: This is the final segment of the podcast. People write
Speaker 2: into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. My
Speaker 2: listeners are desperate for answers in their own lives. I
Speaker 2: don't like to say it. I'm not proud that most
Speaker 2: of my listening audience is just constantly dangling from a thread.
Speaker 2: But I try to help and get them back on
Speaker 2: the path. Will you hope me answer a question? That's
Speaker 2: what I'm here for? Okay, this says Okay, Well.
Speaker 3: It's literally not why I'm here, but sure, okay, this
Speaker 3: says dear Bridger and surely, amazing guest.
Speaker 2: That's very nice. I hope you're having a great episode
Speaker 2: so far. Well, it's been fine, I would say fine
Speaker 2: at best.
Speaker 3: I knew how fragile your ego was. I should have
Speaker 3: let you get me on one.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll say it's been a very bad episode, maybe unreleasable. Okay,
Speaker 2: says I need help deciding what to bring for a
Speaker 2: couple hosting a New Year's Eve party at their house,
Speaker 2: and I will Okay, So we're clearly like catching up here. Well,
Speaker 2: there's always another New Year's Eve party.
Speaker 3: In the North Hills of Altadena, and I think it's
Speaker 3: gonna be a real.
Speaker 2: You know, we're trying to catch up. Listener, you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to whatever advice here at your next party, and
Speaker 2: that's your fault. Okay, I need help. I need help
Speaker 2: deciding what to bring for a couple hosting a New
Speaker 2: Year's Eve party at their house. They are the oldest
Speaker 2: friends of my newish boyfriend. My guy took me to
Speaker 2: their Halloween party too, but it was before we were official,
Speaker 2: so we brought over some drinks for ourselves but nothing
Speaker 2: for them. Slashed the party. Okay, well, you each brought
Speaker 2: a beer, Okay, whatever. I think they're a little suspicious
Speaker 2: of me dating their friend because I'm the first girlfriend
Speaker 2: since it's divorced two years ago, and we are non monogamous,
Speaker 2: whereas they have a traditional college sweetheart type monogamous straight marriage.
Speaker 2: Well what a mouthful. So I want to bring them
Speaker 2: something this time to make better impression. Okay, so still't
Speaker 2: make it this email. That's my first piece of advice.
Speaker 2: Crumple this up and throw it out the window. I
Speaker 2: know you printed a details to know. We are all
Speaker 2: mid to late THIRTI living on the East coast of
Speaker 2: the United States. The hosts have two extremely cute dogs
Speaker 2: and one medium cute dog. Oh that's rude. Why they
Speaker 2: are great cooks Italian and Puerto Rican cuisine. He's in
Speaker 2: a very loud band and she is a nurse. Oh interesting,
Speaker 2: You've got a lot of insight here. My best friend
Speaker 2: and fellow listener Eve. Okay, now we're bringing another listener
Speaker 2: into this problem. My god, Eve suggested bringing something for
Speaker 2: them to have for breakfast the next day we are
Speaker 2: not staying over. Eve is almost always right. Well, I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna say right now, Eve's wrong, But I worry
Speaker 2: if I bring something like that coffee cake muffins or something.
Speaker 2: They'll want to put it out that night and it
Speaker 2: will be weird. Please assist. I'm begging you, thank you.
Speaker 2: And that's from Tito, Tito, Tito, Tito, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: what are the details we're working with here? First of all,
Speaker 2: she broke up a marriage, So this is kind of
Speaker 2: the someone who's ruined a relationship, and that's got to
Speaker 2: color everything that happens from here on out.
Speaker 3: Dare I say, Tito, you might be overthinking this. Uh,
Speaker 3: it's there are so many You have so many bigger
Speaker 3: problems than the one you're asking about.
Speaker 2: The ex wife is trying to kill you, and you're
Speaker 2: worried about like a party gift. Who cares? Okay, So
Speaker 2: this is this is a woman. This is a woman, Tito,
Speaker 2: who is married.
Speaker 3: In a non monogamous not married, non monogamous relationship which
Speaker 3: is which is official, with a divorcee.
Speaker 2: With the divorce of two years. And it seems like
Speaker 2: they're at least worried that everyone in the boyfriend's life
Speaker 2: hates them, right, All the old are uncomfortable around them, right,
Speaker 2: And I'm on their side.
Speaker 3: I am on almost everyone except Tito's side in this story,
Speaker 3: including the medium cute, especially the media.
Speaker 2: I'm cute dog.
Speaker 3: It's being slandered for no reason, just like just sidekick
Speaker 3: to the ball of someone standing over the rescue. Okay, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: in theory, I actually thought when I heard breakfast the
Speaker 3: next day, I was like, that's a great idea.
Speaker 2: You never think of that.
Speaker 3: No, And it's like they're tired, They're going to be
Speaker 3: worn out. I suppose you could like pre order a
Speaker 3: Postmates that is going to deliver them a couple of
Speaker 3: breakfast burritos.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, interesting, Or.
Speaker 3: Give a little Postmates Gifts card with a note saying
Speaker 3: that right. So that would maybe be how I would
Speaker 3: solve that problem. I ultimately would just like grab a
Speaker 3: bottle of something. Sure, stop thinking so much about your life.
Speaker 2: I mean, if the concern is about the breakfast item
Speaker 2: them not being clear of what's to be used for,
Speaker 2: do something that's obviously a breakfast item. An omelet, scrambled eggs,
Speaker 2: a box of cereal. These things are not gonna put out.
Speaker 3: Yes, charming gift a box of cereal and some milk.
Speaker 3: A box of egg omelet might be tough.
Speaker 2: I cooked this a few hours, just leave it on
Speaker 2: the counter.
Speaker 3: Here's what you're gonna do, uh, this is sort of
Speaker 3: a model omelet. You're gonna want to make this with
Speaker 3: whatever you have.
Speaker 2: Okay, so, now that we've said it aloud, omelet is
Speaker 2: the thing they should bring. It's like it was so
Speaker 2: obvious all along. I want them to bring an omelet
Speaker 2: so badly. A nine egg. Put some Puerto Rican ingredients
Speaker 2: in there, top to a samaranara so we could get
Speaker 2: kind of a fusion thing happening. And you're gonna wake
Speaker 2: up to this and just be so refreshed and happy
Speaker 2: that I brought breakfast.
Speaker 3: You're just gonna be thinking about how cool and thoughtful
Speaker 3: and normal I am.
Speaker 2: Wow. Well, Tito, you've got your answer. Don't write back in.
Speaker 3: Honestly, stop listening the podcast.
Speaker 2: You need to be changing everything. Yes, and you tell
Speaker 2: the listener every episode. I'm begging them. Stop listening. Do
Speaker 2: not tell anybody else about the podcast. Leave the negative reviews,
Speaker 2: spread rumors, just destroy me. Am, Well, we answered it perfectly.
Speaker 2: I think you've won the game. You're part of a
Speaker 2: very small group of winners. The group of full losers
Speaker 2: is still a little more elite. But I guess that
Speaker 2: you want to be a winner. Ultimately, and now I
Speaker 2: have this book which I now it will be taking
Speaker 2: up physical space in my home, so I have to
Speaker 2: read it rather than just constantly going to the bottom
Speaker 2: of the kindle list.
Speaker 3: You have to read it so you can pass it
Speaker 3: on to the next person that you see flailing.
Speaker 2: I want them to know that I'm quietly judging them
Speaker 2: and think that their life is a mess.
Speaker 3: Uh, a mess empty you would love.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's something to work with when you've got a mess.
Speaker 2: You can organize a mess staring into a cave.
Speaker 3: You can't organize empty, bottomless.
Speaker 2: I've had such a wonderful time, came here today and
Speaker 2: thank you for this beautiful book and being here. Well
Speaker 2: sixteen wrong, Well, listener, the podcast is over. I think
Speaker 2: you knew that. I think that if you've listened to
Speaker 2: at least one episode, you're clear about how this works.
Speaker 2: Eventually the audio comes to an end and then you
Speaker 2: immediately start the episode over, so soon you'll have to
Speaker 2: do that. You'll play it over and start memorizing for
Speaker 2: your lip syncs. But we'll see you again soon. I
Speaker 2: love you, goodbye, I said. No Gifts is an exactly
Speaker 2: right production. Our senior producer is on Alisa Nelson and
Speaker 2: our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Toliday. The theme
Speaker 2: song is by Miracle Worker Amy Mann and we couldn't
Speaker 2: do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow
Speaker 2: the show on Instagram. At I said, no gifts. That's
Speaker 2: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful
Speaker 2: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts?
Speaker 1: Lie?
Speaker 2: Why did you hear?
Speaker 1: Gonta made myself perfectly clear. But you're a guest to me.
Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests.
Speaker 1: Your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff.
Speaker 2: So how do you dance? Survey me