WEBVTT - Eric Ledgin Disobeys Bridger

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly clear. But you're a guest to my home. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guests,

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<v Speaker 1>your presences presence enough. I already had too much stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you dare to surbey me?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridgard Wineker. We

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<v Speaker 2>are in the studio. If if you didn't listen to

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<v Speaker 2>last week's rerun, that's first of all, come on, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I left a little message on that one because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I like to take care of everybody, and

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<v Speaker 2>I in that episode I let everyone know that I'm alive,

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<v Speaker 2>and now again I'm still alive. Things have been interesting

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<v Speaker 2>in Los Angeles and on fire, so we're just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of doing everything one step at a time. But I've

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<v Speaker 2>cleaned the ash and the debris out of the backyard.

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<v Speaker 2>But the air, I think, is probably going to be

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<v Speaker 2>poisoned for the next who knows how long. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>here in the wonderful studio on Aalise is not here.

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<v Speaker 2>They've cooked up some excuse not to be here, and

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<v Speaker 2>I find that just a little suspicious, considering we still

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<v Speaker 2>don't know who started all of these fires, but we'll

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<v Speaker 2>just have to wait and see what we find out

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<v Speaker 2>about them in the future. On aalise, if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got my eye on you. Is there anything else?

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<v Speaker 2>My cognitive decline is just exhilarating. I more and more

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<v Speaker 2>forget to put on deodoranto the morning, and then it's

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<v Speaker 2>two hours later I'm putting it on. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening. It's probably a red flag. Everybody keep an

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<v Speaker 2>eye on that. And I think that's everything. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we should get into the podcast. I just think today's

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<v Speaker 2>guest is absolutely wonderful. It's Eric Legend. Eric. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>I said no gifts, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very thrilled to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>You're driving from over from kind of my neighborhood. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in Highland Park. You're an Eagle row. Oh yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how's the you know, how is the last week been

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<v Speaker 2>for you?

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<v Speaker 3>It's been a true roller coaster, I feel, and I

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<v Speaker 3>mean that in like, there have been some really great

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<v Speaker 3>moments and touching moments, sure, and some awful moments, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's not necessarily the obvious ones. It's like, so I'll

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<v Speaker 3>just say when we had have to leave our house.

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<v Speaker 3>It was not a mandatory evacuation, but we were like

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<v Speaker 3>I looked at the map and we were the first

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<v Speaker 3>house on the other side of the freeway from a

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<v Speaker 3>mandatory evacuation, and I'm like, maybe we go. I have

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<v Speaker 3>three children, And so we got up in the morning

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<v Speaker 3>and we left and in the car I was talking

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<v Speaker 3>to my wife about like what do we bring? And

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<v Speaker 3>we had this very touching moment that lasted into our

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<v Speaker 3>car ride, which was this, what are we talking about

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<v Speaker 3>are stuff for? Like this is our we are our stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>we are our house. And then we had this like

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<v Speaker 3>really beautiful ride. And then that night I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I was curious to look at my like home insurance policy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm curious, like what happens if our house burns down.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw the amount we would get back, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I need to get back to the house

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<v Speaker 3>and protect our stuff, our real stuff. So that set

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<v Speaker 3>off this is just like personal anxiety. And then to

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<v Speaker 3>see everything happening with people I know, and we were

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<v Speaker 3>very very lucky and fortunate for us our personal home

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<v Speaker 3>in our neighborhood, but then you see people who aren't,

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<v Speaker 3>and you go to this dark place on their behalf

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<v Speaker 3>this tory place.

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<v Speaker 2>But then this is the roller coaster part.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like I see like the gofundmes, which I think

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<v Speaker 3>is like very needed, like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, insurance policy.

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<v Speaker 3>But then there's like the one where I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 3>have family money.

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<v Speaker 2>So it should be that should be at the top

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<v Speaker 2>of every got fund me. There was a trust fund.

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<v Speaker 3>So long answer to your to your question, but I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like that's that's the vibe right now for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like all over the place in self involved ways,

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<v Speaker 3>all over the place and how I'm supposed to be

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<v Speaker 3>feeling and how I do feel.

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<v Speaker 2>For the city.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm claiming Los Angeles like more than

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<v Speaker 3>I ever have. Like I'm watching the coverage and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>watching it burn I'm like, I love this place. I

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<v Speaker 3>love the Magic Castle.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I have personal problems with the Magic Castle, but

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<v Speaker 2>that aside. They made me where I've been there once

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<v Speaker 2>and I wasn't dressed up enough and they made me

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<v Speaker 2>wear I think size forty two suit pant the entire night.

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<v Speaker 3>I was an mad for some reason. When they were

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<v Speaker 3>interviewing like the inexplicably heavily Israeli accented manager of the

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<v Speaker 3>Magic Castle all I could think of was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know why. I don't think a lot about Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was thinking about him watching it, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely sure he turned to whoever he was with and went, I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually been there.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been to the magic they make you say abrika

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<v Speaker 3>dabra on the way and I can't do a good Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was one hundred percent sure he was saying mad.

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<v Speaker 2>Guaranteed I was probably wearing his suit pants that he

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<v Speaker 2>left behind. It's all coming together, no, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>like the thing was crazy to me. I went to

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<v Speaker 2>bed Tuesday night when everything was really starting to blaze,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was like it's only going to get worse

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<v Speaker 2>sort of information, and I slept so well. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I fell asleep almost immediately, had a full night sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>The things that will normally keep me up at night,

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<v Speaker 2>or absolutely I'll say one wrong word at a party

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<v Speaker 2>and it'll be two weeks of insomnia. Yeah, but this

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I respect that I am jealous I have. I have

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<v Speaker 3>three children. It's not just that I'm worried about them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that my wife and I think we have like

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<v Speaker 3>what's a very typical dynamic where one parent is like

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<v Speaker 3>the anxious warrior and the other ones the like it'll

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<v Speaker 3>be fine, and I'm the it'll be fine guy. But

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<v Speaker 3>what that does to you is the warrior just like drops.

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<v Speaker 2>Things on you.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you are the one, the lackadaisical one, you're

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<v Speaker 3>the one that's gonna be in trouble if your family burns, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and you were the one that said not to worry about.

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<v Speaker 3>So my wife's just like, I think we should evacuate,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's vile. Let's go to sleep. And so then

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<v Speaker 3>I'm up all night, like checking the alerts on this

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<v Speaker 3>like watch whatever, watch duty. I'm the century who's up

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<v Speaker 3>all night even though I think it's going to be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we woke up and like, of course, I

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<v Speaker 3>looked at it and they had all moved towards us,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, we actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Creeping feeling Yeah, now did you leave? I left? I

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<v Speaker 2>left Wednesday morning, which was another thing, the most shocking

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<v Speaker 2>thing in the world is I made a decision which

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<v Speaker 2>in any other situation would have been days or weeks

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<v Speaker 2>of me thinking about it. But like I woke up

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<v Speaker 2>that morning feeling very refreshed, and there was orange light

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<v Speaker 2>kind of pouring through my house and smoke in the air,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I quickly found things that are kind of irreplaceable,

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<v Speaker 2>like bags of money and jewelry obviously put them in

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<v Speaker 2>the car and then left. And fortunately I have a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of friends who live in Palm Springs and I

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<v Speaker 2>got to stay with them. Ended up being five days,

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<v Speaker 2>and I started to feel like, oh, I've moved in here.

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<v Speaker 2>But I felt so lucky.

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<v Speaker 3>And someone's going to make like a two million dollar

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<v Speaker 3>indie film about the Palm Springs Crew.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be the worst thing that ever exists. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be called deserted and everyone will just hate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the running around grabbing things is truly insane if

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<v Speaker 3>you're not if you hadn't thought about it before. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the only thing I grabbed, like we had this

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<v Speaker 3>one box of like documents that nobody would care about

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<v Speaker 3>except us. But I right before I left, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh wait, and I ran into the closet and I

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<v Speaker 3>grabbed three hundred dollars that I had in cash, and

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<v Speaker 3>I had cash in my wallet, like I had a

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<v Speaker 3>few boxs like, but I was just like this is

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<v Speaker 3>like I know that like per ounce this is like

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<v Speaker 3>the most valuable thing in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>You leave your children behind, You've got three hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on the freeway. Yeah, it was. It was of strange

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<v Speaker 2>and like I wasn't even sure if I should come

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<v Speaker 2>back yet, except for starting to feel like I was

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<v Speaker 2>being rude staying at my friend's house that long. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think just like me being anxious about staying in

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<v Speaker 2>someone else's home was what really drove me back to

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<v Speaker 2>a city that was still kind of actively on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>But now I think it's for past the worst of it,

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<v Speaker 2>I think. So, I mean I did this.

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<v Speaker 3>I was at my mother in law's and then I

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<v Speaker 3>had we had a bought Mitzvah to go to in

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<v Speaker 3>San Francisco, and we were like I had canceled it

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<v Speaker 3>all and uh, and then we were just talking about like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>we're just gonna be here and like, let's say our

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<v Speaker 3>house burns down, wouldn't it be kind of fun to

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<v Speaker 3>be like dancing to like celebrate good times at about

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<v Speaker 3>Mitzvah aspose just sitting here watching it on the news.

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<v Speaker 3>So we went and then we came back and it

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<v Speaker 3>was just like seeing the air quality as good, which

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<v Speaker 3>like I know we've got all like the seeds of doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>Of what's something you listening to a QI? Okay, you've

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<v Speaker 2>looked at five different apps and outside with your own

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<v Speaker 2>eyes and nose.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was again started with my wife going, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think we can go outside without a mask because

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<v Speaker 3>I know that AQI is good, but uh, I saw

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<v Speaker 3>that there's other stuff in the air, Like where did

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<v Speaker 3>you see that? It was in a comment on Instagram

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<v Speaker 3>under a video that someone I don't know posted. But

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<v Speaker 3>then it's like, so then it's on me if we

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<v Speaker 3>get lung cancer exactly. So I like did some digging

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, maybe it is not good. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know so, but we're here and we're staying mostly inside.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, the air quality thing, I'm like, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just put on a mask. I mean, as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to the typically crystal clear error in Los Angeles were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. But I need to stop getting news from

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram from my most mentally ill friends. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. Just the most anxious people in the world

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<v Speaker 2>just giving me the most panicked takes on everything.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's truly the a major player in the down

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<v Speaker 3>ball of our society. But I am on it constantly.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, of course. That's where I was getting most

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<v Speaker 2>of my news about this until somebody posted a thing

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<v Speaker 2>that was like that truly made me think, oh, now

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<v Speaker 2>my house is going to burn down. So I looked

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<v Speaker 2>at the full article and I was like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>is nowhere near me. I context helped a little bit. Yeah, yeah, right, Well, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>have you seen this documentary about the man who's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to live forever? I have not. Are you familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>this guy?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm familiar with him. Like the things people say about

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<v Speaker 3>him on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>What are they saying about him on Twitter? I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's like a ghoul and.

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<v Speaker 3>That he's uh, it's like the drinking the blood of

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<v Speaker 3>the young type vibees.

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<v Speaker 2>Except for it's his son that he's drinking the blood

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<v Speaker 2>of essentially, is so bizarre. I'm shocked back.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy's a dad, and he does not give dad vibes

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<v Speaker 3>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he has several children, but I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the family is estranged, but he's the oldest

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<v Speaker 2>son has kind of come back into his life just

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<v Speaker 2>at the right time to give him his blood of.

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<v Speaker 3>Course, plasma blood both.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. I'm not trying to correct you.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know. I feel like i've heard Actually.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's the plan what he needs and there's

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<v Speaker 3>a benefit to his son because.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's some vitamins. I'd like to tell you it

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<v Speaker 2>must what is it's probably who am I? What am

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<v Speaker 2>I talking about? Plasma? Probably maybe you.

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<v Speaker 3>Got to tell me if you want me to watch

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<v Speaker 3>these documentaries before I come on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is a good selling point. He is starting

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<v Speaker 2>to look like a like a stern Pilgrim wife. That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's something to look at. That sounds right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've seen some photos on he's posting the photos

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<v Speaker 3>like look, how youthful I look right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he doesn't look you. It's full. He looks strange.

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<v Speaker 3>Does he have a bioage or a what is it

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<v Speaker 3>like A he's got his chronological agent bioage.

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<v Speaker 2>I think his bioage is Again, I watched this entire

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<v Speaker 2>documentary and came away with no concrete answers for you.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would say it's probably like thirty or something.

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<v Speaker 2>But what he's talking to people who's paying to give

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<v Speaker 2>him this information? So who knows for sure? But he's

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<v Speaker 2>taking truly like three pounds of itamins a day. He's

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<v Speaker 2>staying inside all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like the benefit of being when I think

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<v Speaker 3>about like how old I am now, which is I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to turn forty six Bridgard No, And also why no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm turning forty five this month and it's the twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to, okay, I'm planning a little something,

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<v Speaker 3>a little okay. So the benefit of being thirty to

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<v Speaker 3>me wouldn't be like I guess it would be nice

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to have like one more glass of

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<v Speaker 3>alcohol without keeping me up all night. But it's really

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<v Speaker 3>like situational, right, like oh yeah, of course, the freedom,

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<v Speaker 3>the optimism, what's ahead of you?

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<v Speaker 2>Those things like those are all naive. Yeah, exactly that anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't get that back, so it might as well

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<v Speaker 3>like eat shit, yeah don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that there's been a biological age I've

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<v Speaker 2>been yet that I'm like, oh, I want that back.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been no time in my life where I felt

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<v Speaker 2>good physically.

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<v Speaker 3>Fourteen I feel like was a good year. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to be the guy that's like my bioage is fourteen.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel pretty rad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a maybe at some point maybe when I

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<v Speaker 2>hit my seventies or something, I'll be like, Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 2>time to turn back the clock and hopefully this guy's

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<v Speaker 2>work and it is work, I'll be able to take

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of that. But as of right now, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel similarly to climate change, where I'm just like, we've

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<v Speaker 3>gone too far. There's nothing preventative I could do that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to move the needle, so I have to rely

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<v Speaker 3>on technology to save me. So there's already like new

0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.920
<v Speaker 3>knees and hips that are pretty good now, So I

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<v Speaker 3>think when I'm seventy, they'll be like better than original

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<v Speaker 3>hips and knees.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I used to think. But as I like

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<v Speaker 2>creep towards that, I'm like, oh, it's only a few decades.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe they're not going to be able to save me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they should call we should rebrand aging as creeping.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just creep day creeping up to forty five now, No.

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<v Speaker 2>I Yeah, I used to be like, oh, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really have to take care of myself because eventually they're

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<v Speaker 2>just going to have something. Yeah, I'm like.

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<v Speaker 3>I am starting to be like, like, there is some

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<v Speaker 3>stuff I'm doing that I'm trying to be like especially

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<v Speaker 3>from having kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I am just like I want to.

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<v Speaker 3>See what happens, just pure curiosity about like what's going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen with them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's nothing to do with love.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, the love is there, the love, the

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<v Speaker 3>love will live forever, but I will not. And I

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<v Speaker 3>make that clear of them every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to die multiple times before and after every morning, sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 3>And so like, yeah, I am starting to think about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually at my am like I think I've put it

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<v Speaker 3>off and that I need to start like doing all

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<v Speaker 3>the stuff they say you need to do of just

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<v Speaker 3>like less processed food and working out with weights.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the real new thing. I think I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like there's an article every day that's like, swallow as

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<v Speaker 2>much protein as you possibly can every day while working

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<v Speaker 2>your muscles.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you that it's a new thing in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of like they've proven it, but it's hard to

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<v Speaker 3>say it's a new thing. No, lifting weights and eating

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<v Speaker 3>healthy it's not at the forefront of lifestyle science, but

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<v Speaker 3>it seems like it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fad and it's gonna blow over of their

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok craze. People are gonna stop lifting weights and taking

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<v Speaker 2>care of themselves. So what dietary changes have you really made?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you eating?

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<v Speaker 3>This is all aspirational, it's all stuff I've been saying

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing. But it's like then, like the fires happen

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<v Speaker 3>and you're like, I'm not doing that now. I'll do

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<v Speaker 3>it when fire is over it. Yes, we've conquered fire.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I will start cutting out sugar that's not like natural, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the goal. And fasting. I was doing well

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<v Speaker 3>with fasting for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>You were doing fasting how like every day.

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<v Speaker 3>Or I was doing it like every other day. I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't eat all day long, I from wake up to dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I started going. I started actually feeling good

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<v Speaker 3>from it pretty quickly, and so I would do longer

0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:31.439
<v Speaker 3>and longer fast And then I got up to like

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<v Speaker 3>a five day fast where I didn't I really eat.

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<v Speaker 3>I had like a cup of broth or something five days. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I started to have some health problems.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't think I don't think related to the

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<v Speaker 3>fasting for the record, Okay, but when I'm going through,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm finding as I get older, I somehow get more fragile.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I was going to get stronger and more

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<v Speaker 3>resilient and more I'm getting more free. I'm going the

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<v Speaker 3>other way with it because I am I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like a I like to go against the knowledge, the contrarian.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm getting weaker willed. And anytime like something disrupts

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<v Speaker 3>my schedule, the fire, if I get sick, if like

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<v Speaker 3>on one of my kids has something going on, I

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<v Speaker 3>just all bets are off for like self care.

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<v Speaker 2>So oh yeah, of course, So.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of stopped doing that, and but I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get back to that. And I think sugar is

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of it for me. If I'm not eating it,

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<v Speaker 3>I do feel better.

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<v Speaker 2>And like when you're fasting, I mean for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just in I mean, and it's not fasting, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>like between meals in the worst possible mood.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you refer to the three or so hours between

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<v Speaker 3>breakfast and unjest fasting and fast?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Does it affect your mood?

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<v Speaker 3>The sometimes it does? And the first time I did it,

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<v Speaker 3>it did. I used to fast like once a year

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<v Speaker 3>for Yom Kapor, the Jewish hollowing, and it would always.

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<v Speaker 2>Affect my mood.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you do it like a few times in

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<v Speaker 3>a row. I would say by the second or third time,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, this feels good and right and

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<v Speaker 3>actually gives me energy. Wow. The way it was explained

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<v Speaker 3>in a book that I didn't bother to look if

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<v Speaker 3>there was any proof for was that from an evolutionary perspective,

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<v Speaker 3>when we would go on the hunt, we would have

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<v Speaker 3>we would go without food for these long hunts, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you if you didn't catch anything, like if

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<v Speaker 3>you the people who would then just die were sort

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<v Speaker 3>of like weeded out.

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<v Speaker 2>But the people who.

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<v Speaker 3>Found like another reserve of energy and actually clarity and

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<v Speaker 3>more focus would get better at hunting because somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>Your body is like we've got a we have to yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So for me it would be like, you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>we have to find this blow for act two of

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<v Speaker 3>episode three.

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<v Speaker 2>This was going to be my question for you doing

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<v Speaker 2>it while working and you were yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh god.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be an absolute nightmare at the office.

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<v Speaker 3>The writers didn't like it, but I didn't do it

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<v Speaker 3>for I Actually like this last season of the show

0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:17.879
<v Speaker 3>that I was doing, I got I ended up in

0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:19.879
<v Speaker 3>the hospital in the middle of it, and after that

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<v Speaker 3>it was like there was no fasting. There was no

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<v Speaker 3>like in regard to anything except what I needed in

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<v Speaker 3>the moment for the last few months.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Yeah. I've had bosses in the past who will

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<v Speaker 2>do fasting and you knew the day they were doing

0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:32.600
<v Speaker 2>it because like suddenly no pitch was being accepted. You

0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:34.520
<v Speaker 2>were doing you were doing so much more work, and

0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:36.480
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, they're just in a bad mood. Nothing

0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:40.320
<v Speaker 2>will please this person, and you hope that they accidentally

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<v Speaker 2>eat a life saver or something, right right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I found that if I was like eating healthy and fasting,

0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.520
<v Speaker 3>I would find the clarity and feel good. But if

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<v Speaker 3>I was using the breaking the fast as an excuse

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<v Speaker 3>to eat like shit, then it would just be this.

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<v Speaker 2>Like all over the place, yo yo kin, Yeah, are

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<v Speaker 2>you a big treat eater? Unfortunately?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have like a major sweet tooth. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is one of the many ways that like having kids

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<v Speaker 3>sort of exposes you because my first my oldest son.

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<v Speaker 3>I have three boys, and the oldest son has what

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<v Speaker 3>I have, but I've never seen it from the outside.

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<v Speaker 3>Right he is like if there's ever a thing where

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a pinata or something like that where they're

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<v Speaker 3>like we're giving out candy like he's running in and

0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:27.320
<v Speaker 3>hoarding it. He's like, this is all mine and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>eat it now.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's uh, that's kind of who I am, and

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<v Speaker 3>so and I my second son just like couldn't care less.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll have a couple bites and be like my body's

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<v Speaker 3>telling me I'm full, and I'm like it it must

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<v Speaker 3>be nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have like a go to treat?

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<v Speaker 3>It's like whatever is It's not candy, it's like whatever

0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:55.800
<v Speaker 3>kind of like rich. It could be a donut that's

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<v Speaker 3>like a peanut butter chocolate donut with marshmallow frosting? Is

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<v Speaker 3>that my go to tra It's like the most decadent

0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:05.359
<v Speaker 3>thing possible would be my go to.

0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've noticed, like as a kid, candy was obviously

0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 2>a thing, And now if I ever have like a

0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:14.080
<v Speaker 2>full sized candy bar, I feel so insane. I'm like

0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:16.520
<v Speaker 2>what am I doing eating a candy bar? But like

0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:20.040
<v Speaker 2>I love cookies and cake and that kind of thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Eat this stuff that has that much sugar in it,

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<v Speaker 3>just not in such an unabashed I wanted to at

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<v Speaker 3>least be a little ashamed of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So right this was made recently it's healthy. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's something else I'd like to talk to you about.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't love bringing it up, but I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I have a choice right now. Look, the

0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:46.720
<v Speaker 2>podcast is called I said no gifts, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>Eric will come on. He's a lovely person, will have

0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:53.880
<v Speaker 2>a nice time. What could go wrong, you know? And

0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:58.199
<v Speaker 2>obviously you've been receiving plenty of emails you know the

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<v Speaker 2>name of the podcast. So I was sitting here minding

0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 2>my own business in the studio and here you come

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 2>trotting in holding a massive gift bag, which I'm going

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 2>to assume is for me. It is indeed for you. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting, So I who's listening to a couple of several

0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:25.440
<v Speaker 3>of podcast episodes for your show so that I could

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 3>pretend I listened to all of them, and I noticed

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:31.879
<v Speaker 3>that there were some people who violated the role.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like a trigger area for me of anxiety,

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Like nothing can ruin a moment of like a vacation

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:44.200
<v Speaker 3>for me more than like, am I supposed to tip

0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:47.879
<v Speaker 3>this guy? And I always try to error on the

0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 3>side of something I can't be shamed for or keep

0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 3>myself up about.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did bring a gift.

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:57.520
<v Speaker 3>I hope it was not the wrong move, but I

0:23:57.560 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 3>felt moved to bring something.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I'm we'll just completely shame you. You made

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 2>the wrong choice. But I mean it's here. It's so

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 2>big it's tempting that to not open. I mean, I

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 2>have to open.

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to bring it something with a splash and

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:17.640
<v Speaker 3>also something that was in my closet, and h this

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 3>was one of the extra gift bags that we had.

0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 2>It's a gift bag that I would say is about

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 2>as half as tall as I am with a shark. Yes,

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I am.

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 3>Some insane child brought this to my home. I imagine at

0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 3>some point if you notice there's this shark bite taken

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 3>in the top.

0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 2>We've gone too far with gift bags. It has like

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 2>a novelty bite out of it that's actually been Wow,

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 2>that's fascinating. I mean, this is this is more don't

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:45.919
<v Speaker 2>do this. It's not as big as a shark bite,

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:47.679
<v Speaker 2>so it doesn't make any sense logically.

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 3>It's also like the gift bag companies are like, oh,

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 3>this is what we're doing.

0:24:52.080 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 2>Now you had to We've got to push the interactive. Okay,

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to reach into this reaching in hand. Lol,

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 2>we've got some tissue. We love some tissue by the

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 2>mic and.

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, everyone loves a book.

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 2>It's a victory for Ankle's man search for meeting. I

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:23.440
<v Speaker 2>have this on my kindle and it's always just there.

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Is it really mocking here? It's like I need to

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 2>get around to it, but I still haven't.

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:30.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, the nice thing about hard Top He's able to

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 3>get this one signed for you.

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 2>So if you if you open it up there, oh

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 2>this is right in his voice. This is bee Wine.

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Enjoy the enjoy all the meaning your boy. Vic. These

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 2>are the typical emails I'm getting from him.

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:47.119
<v Speaker 3>Ye DMS. He's he likes being in touch with like this,

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 3>sort of like gen Z jargon.

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I love, by the way, to have a on this book.

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:56.680
<v Speaker 2>It says over sixteen million copies, so that's like putting

0:25:56.680 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 2>that on the Bible or insane. So many people are

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 2>seeking meaning.

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Let this Holocaust survivor tell you what he gleaned from

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 3>watching thousands die.

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Reese Witherspoon loves it. Wow, this is fast. Okay, Well

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.640
<v Speaker 2>tell me more about why you brought this so.

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 3>Everybody everybody needs more meaning. And I thought especially during

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 3>this time that because I was I was personally going

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 3>through these ups and downs, that I might get back

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 3>into this book, which I read, I don't know, like

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 3>almost a decade ago, and that thing that gets thrown

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 3>around a love like a book that changed my life

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, this one actually did. I read this and

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 3>then I left my job at the time.

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 2>I was.

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 3>I read this during like season three of Superstore, and

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:58.120
<v Speaker 3>I read this book and it's about purpose and how

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 3>you're getting in touch with your purpose can sort of

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 3>like get you through anything essentially, and I was what

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 3>I took from this was I.

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 2>Can't write any more Glenn Bee.

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Stories, and so I gave up the living I was

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 3>making and I had one kid in one on the way.

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:22.159
<v Speaker 3>And that's how much this book affected me. And I

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 3>thought you might want to be affected.

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 2>You looked at me and said, there's someone with a

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 2>hollow life.

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 3>There's someone who needs some train anything.

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 2>But well, I didn't know that about that. You would

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 2>quit the show.

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And don't get me wrong, I went onto a

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.439
<v Speaker 3>different show like three months later, but he was on

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 3>HBO oh okay, and it was a bad experience. But

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I find I think what I'm really doing

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 3>is projecting onto you what I'm feeling like I need

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 3>to get back in touch with. Even by getting it

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 3>for you picked it up, it's used, it's I leafed

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:05.880
<v Speaker 3>through a couple of pages and was like, oh, yeah,

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 3>I forgot about that way of having meaning and so

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 3>it's already helping me.

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 2>So when you quit the job and before you realized

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 2>that you were wrong and that you had to get

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 2>back to television the most meaningful thing of all, what

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:24.400
<v Speaker 2>were those three months? Like? Are you trying new things? Yeah?

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 3>I was trying to just well at first, I was like,

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 3>is it about like my writing and my career? And

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 3>not my career, but I mean like what I want

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 3>to do as a writer, because maybe this, Maybe I

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 3>have something else in me that's not this, And if

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 3>I keep doing this, is it going to make my

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 3>writing just like this?

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 3>And and then I had this kind of bad experience

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 3>on something that I thought would be something more in

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 3>line with my point of view. And then my second

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 3>son was born, and I realized afterwards that I am

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 3>like a lot more basic of a person than I

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 3>thought I was, because I think, is it hook where

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 3>he's like being a father? That's my happy thought or whatever.

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.959
<v Speaker 3>I realized afterwards that like my kids and my family

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:15.719
<v Speaker 3>really were that the right, what I felt like was

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 3>my biggest purpose. And it's not like that took away

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 3>from all the other things I wanted to do, but

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 3>it made those sort of in service of this sort

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 3>of greater at least greater for me thing that I

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 3>that just meant so much to me as a person.

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Don't remember what your question was, but you did the

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 2>powerful combination of hook and man search for me.

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 3>And then Okay, so circling back, Okay, I do have

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 3>I can stick this landing, I swear. So then I realized, like, well,

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 3>if that's true, then if my job doesn't have to

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 3>be my identity, then maybe my job can be something

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 3>that makes me happy that I actually enjoy doing and

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't have to put so much on it that

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 3>has to be everything for me, right, And so I

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 3>ended up going like back into these like sitcoms and

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 3>having so much fun working on them. I worked with

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 3>my friend Sierra on Brutherford Falls. I went back home

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 3>and worked with Justin Spitzer on American Auto, and I

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 3>was just like having a blast again, like just laughing

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 3>with people I like all day and then coming home

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 3>to like my beautiful sons and wife and family, and

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 3>that also like stops me from sleeping and occasionally makes

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 3>my life absolutely miserable of course, but I found some

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 3>balance that I think now partially because I have a

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 3>baby that's again ruining my life, I'm hoping to get

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 3>back to.

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Is this therapy? It is? This isn't being recorded? Okay, yeah, no,

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>no, no no, I'm going to charge you after this, and

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 2>it's it will not be covered by insurance.

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm still gonna submit a super bill, but that's fine.

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, if we don't accepting super bills, I will make

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 2>your life hell.

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 3>I will send the super bill to the company and

0:30:56.680 --> 0:31:00.080
<v Speaker 3>I will find a way to subtly signal Louis G.

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Mangioni and just put him in the in the zeitgeist

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 3>of the super bill, to put a little fear of

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 3>them into.

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 2>No. I think that's very nice because I think as

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>a writer myself, you get into these TV writing rooms

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 2>and frequently people are so miserable, and it's you're supposed

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 2>to be doing something fun and enjoyable, and it can be,

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 2>but it becomes so stressful for almost no reason at all.

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 2>People just start layering their personal anger and problems into it,

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 2>and the thing you're like supposed to be making funny

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 2>television and everyone's mad. Yeah. Yeah. So to be able

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 2>to just be like to even push a little bit

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>of that away, I think is nice. I think you

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 2>get to go home and not be mad totally.

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 3>I think it applies like on a micro level like that,

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 3>and in the sense of, like there has to be

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 3>joy in the room to make a really funny show.

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 3>I think less it's going to be like super cynically

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 3>funny and that's it. There is going to be a

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 3>ton of stress, as I found out running my first

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 3>show this past year. But I think it's the job

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 3>of the showrunner and to a certain extent, like the

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 3>number two on the show, to kind of absorb some

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 3>of that stress and find ways to get it out

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 3>that aren't putting it on all.

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 2>The writers right.

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Sort of do have to be protected like babies in

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 3>a way, just in the sense of like they're there

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 3>to like have fun and solve problems but also be

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 3>playful and come up with creative solutions, and so you

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 3>do need like the vibe is a real thing. But

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 3>also I think like the times we're in Like all

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 3>you hear is about how dark the times we're in

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 3>r and how bad everything is. And I don't subscribe

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 3>to that.

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Voted for Donald Trump.

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 3>We're all good. No, But I think it's like I

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 3>even now I hear the other voice being like, it's

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 3>easy for you to say, and like it's not. I mean,

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 3>it's just it actually is. It's easy for anyone to say,

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 3>like things are bad, but like there's also a lot

0:32:57.240 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 3>of good in the world. I think, like the aftermath

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 3>of the fires has certainly shown that to people who

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 3>live here. And so I do think that like having

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 3>something that you're that's an anchor in your life. And

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry this isn't funny, but having something that's

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 3>an anchor in your life, I do think can really

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 3>help you change your perspective.

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Of course, is something meaningful, Yeah, and I yeah, obviously,

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 2>like sometimes moment to moment things can be horrible, but like, yeah,

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 2>I remind myself of that all the time. If I

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 2>can just like zoom back into my own body and

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 2>life and just like look around, I'm like okay, I'm okay. Yeah,

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm watching TV.

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that can be yours watching TV.

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 2>It is and it always will be. If you want

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 2>to just jam on some of what your purpose could

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 2>be watching a television show that I am reluctantly watching.

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Your purpose, Bridger, is the two screen experience. It had

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 3>to be someone's and buddy, it's yours. That's the real gift.

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 3>It's not the book, Bridger, it was never the book.

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 3>It is the book.

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 2>But no, I really could pick up some hobbies. I

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:14.839
<v Speaker 2>could use more things in my life. I was rock

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 2>climbing for a while but then stopped doing that, and

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 2>now climbing rock climbing, that's indoor rock climbing. Let's not

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 2>get okay, so foam climbing. What is the material like

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 2>hard plastic climbing? All I know is ain't rock. It's

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 2>certainly hot, and you will never see me on the

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 2>side of an actual rock. No, thank you. Yeah. But

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 2>then that went away and I realized that I've gotten.

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Featuring you like free soloing, and I was just like,

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 3>what this person, No, no, no, At the Pasadena Community Center,

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 3>there's a little six and a half foot wall.

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 2>No, do you have hobbies?

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 3>You know I do have hobbies. I went almost my

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 3>I went a lot of my life without hobbies. After

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 3>my midlife crisis, I feel like happened around thirty nine.

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 3>In anticipation, I was trying to get ahead of it, keep.

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 2>An eye on seventy eight everybody.

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 3>And I started just like jumping into stuff. I very

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 3>lazily played the guitar my whole life, like just chords,

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 3>just I could like try to figure out the basics

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:19.359
<v Speaker 3>of a song.

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>And I was.

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 3>Like, I should try to get better before I die.

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 3>I might as well try. And then I started. I

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:28.840
<v Speaker 3>had like hurt my ankle playing basketball, and I was

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 3>in bed for a few days, and I started trying

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 3>to learn Italian one of those apps. And then I

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.439
<v Speaker 3>started sailing, like right before the pandemic, and I tried

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 3>to hear.

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I saw having a melt up.

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it was a response to a midlife crist that

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 3>became a joke in my family and extended family of

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 3>like what the next thing is and how there's no

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 3>chance I'll be sailing six months from now. But I

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 3>started just like picking up a few things and just

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 3>going with them. And I started playing tennis about a

0:35:56.800 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 3>year and a half ago, and I went to my

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 3>first I took a lesson with this guy who is

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 3>about ninety seven years old, and he told me he

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 3>had to sit for most of the lesson because he

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:12.360
<v Speaker 3>was like in an extreme pain because he needed.

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:15.399
<v Speaker 2>Surgery that kept getting rescheduled. Anyway, he took this.

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 3>He was like, I'm gonna take a video of you

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 3>and this will be like the before and then we'll

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 3>do like six weeks of lessons and then we'll we'll

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 3>show you how much better you got. So I'm like,

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 3>I haven't hit a ball since I was a kid.

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 3>So I get I get him mostly in and I'm

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 3>like psyched. And after a few he's like, all right, stop,

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:34.360
<v Speaker 3>I gotta.

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Turn off the machine. Hold on, we're gonna stop the video,

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 2>all right. I think I think we're not ready for

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:41.280
<v Speaker 2>the before video.

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 3>What he says it was, I'm not good enough for

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.399
<v Speaker 3>the before video. He wants me to take a few

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 3>lessons and build up to the before video.

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 2>This will destroy yourself content.

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling my wife this and she's in between laughing

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 3>at me. She's like, well, he's probably trying to like

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 3>neg you so that you'll like take more lessons interesting

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 3>and get And I was like, no, I signed up

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 3>for an hour and a half and he cut it

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.240
<v Speaker 3>after under an hour and was like, let's just wrap

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 3>this up.

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm sick to my stomach here.

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 3>And so I took that as a like, now I

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 3>need to get good at tennis. Like now I need

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 3>to learn how to play tennis. So I hire this

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 3>local coach and negro Rock named Merlin to teach me.

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Merlin.

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 3>I love the name Merlin, such a good name, and

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 3>so we've never addressed it. I've never been able to

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 3>be like, so let's talk about Merlin, and it's just

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 3>like this his name, and that's it, and I'm not

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 3>allowed to say anything.

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 2>You have to address that with that name. When you

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 2>say my name is Merlin, you have to say something.

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 3>And here's why it should take you six minutes just

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 3>to introduce yourself. When your name is Merlin, there needs

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 3>to be at least one apology.

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Do you. Oh, I guess we can't say his name

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 2>on the podcast, but I assume it's Jones or Anderson. Right,

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 2>So are you feeling like you're you've gotten to a

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:03.959
<v Speaker 2>point that you could at least do a before tennis video.

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:09.840
<v Speaker 3>I've certainly graduated well well past before you get competitive.

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.239
<v Speaker 3>I do, Yeah, I am like a I'm a competitive

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 3>person when I'm like into it and something. And so

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 3>I've been taking these live ball classes recently where you're

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of like cycling through like these little mini battles.

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 3>It's like a group class, and so you can be

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 3>really competitive for like two points, then like someone destroys

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 3>you and you go wait in line to lose again.

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:32.400
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I do get that way in the moment

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 3>and also in life generally, and also very intensely with

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 3>my spouse.

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Very hard to I don't think I've ever successfully hit

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 2>a tennis ball over a.

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Net, really, and that is how many attempts.

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, probably not enough, but I think every time I've

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:53.760
<v Speaker 2>ever tried it hasn't happened.

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 3>It's very it's not as intuitive as it seems like

0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:00.479
<v Speaker 3>it should be, right. And that's a tricky thing about tennis,

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:02.479
<v Speaker 3>is like you think you're just like whacking the ball

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 3>and that should do it, and then they're like, no,

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 3>you need to actually learn this very awkward like wind

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:10.439
<v Speaker 3>up and.

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Right the risks in all of that, it's not worth

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 2>my time.

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm also always I should say I'm competitive without

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 3>having sufficient natural ability to be competitive.

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:23.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh so it's just it's just hard.

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 3>I have to ruty every situation.

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Are you still playing the guitar?

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 3>I am still playing the guitar. There was a period

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:34.240
<v Speaker 3>where I was doing it like obsessively, especially during the pandemic.

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 3>I was like practicing eight hours a day, and I

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:40.320
<v Speaker 3>feel like I got to like intermediate, and I'm I

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 3>think I'm happy at intermediate. So now I'm just like

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 3>trickling a little better every six months.

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Or so, and that's enough to probably play most of

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:49.959
<v Speaker 2>your favorite music unless.

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 3>It's all like no, and I like these very like

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:56.879
<v Speaker 3>soft boy like folks songs, and so it's like I've

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:59.839
<v Speaker 3>reached the point where I'm like, I I can play

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.760
<v Speaker 3>well enough that I feel like I should be impressing

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 3>my wife, but she doesn't care. She'll occasionally, like I'll

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 3>feel like she's about to, like say a compliment or whatever.

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 3>I'll finish a song and she'll be like, do you

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 3>want this chicken broccoli?

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Or should I throw it out? I'm like, oh, devastated,

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 2>I want it, sad. You know, I'm just realizing is

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:26.839
<v Speaker 2>one of the most irritating things I could possibly see.

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:29.759
<v Speaker 2>And I apologize if you've done this before, but it's

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:35.359
<v Speaker 2>when somebody plays the tennis racket like a guitar. Can

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:38.919
<v Speaker 2>you imagine that's just such an annoying thing.

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 3>But like it's been a while, I'm picturing like a

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 3>Bill and Ted Era, like someone being like like doing

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 3>the noise, and the choice of the noise the knee,

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 3>I think is what would really.

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Push it over its.

0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:59.959
<v Speaker 3>Our mutual friend Justin Shanes told me that I think

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 3>think it was an insult. He was like, you both

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:04.720
<v Speaker 3>get really annoyed at little things.

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting about both of us.

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he said it about you, and then he goes, so,

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 3>I think you guys would really get along, And I

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 3>was like, I thought you were just talking about him.

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:19.839
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I'm glad to know some of the gossip that's

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 2>going around about me, justin spreading these lies. No, I'm

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:25.799
<v Speaker 2>very easy going. Nothing bothers me.

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Your whole body tense stuff, it's like absolutely paralyzed.

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 2>No, these are the sort of things that will just

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:37.799
<v Speaker 2>drive me out of my mind. Somebody, if I were

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 2>to see a friend playing a tennis racket like a guitar,

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:43.280
<v Speaker 2>they would never hear from me. Again.

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of like little I guess there's a

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.839
<v Speaker 3>good internet term millennial core that comes to mind. That's

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:56.879
<v Speaker 3>just like doing like like silly things that like I'm

0:41:56.920 --> 0:42:00.040
<v Speaker 3>just like a kook, like that vibe of I'm just

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 3>to cook. It could be playing the tennis racket as

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 3>a guitar. It could be like having a you know,

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 3>a pillow with a little expression on it.

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 2>There's so many.

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 3>It's a wide swath of annoying things that I don't know.

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it's weird. It's like as I get older, I

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 3>get a little more and it worries me that I'm

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:22.919
<v Speaker 3>getting a little bit more accepting of those things.

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, they're not bothering you as much. You're letting

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 2>your guard down.

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 3>My mother in law has a I think she used

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:34.240
<v Speaker 3>to have like a clock that said it's wine time

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 3>with Cindy.

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Sure. I support that, And I was like that's adorable, that's.

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:41.879
<v Speaker 3>Great, And then part of me was just like, no,

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:44.440
<v Speaker 3>you hate this. You must hate this.

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Keep the flame alive. Six months from now, it's wine

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 2>time with a yeah, yeah, no, yeah, it's a whiskey thirty.

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 2>There is still a lot of it. There's like there

0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 2>has been this movement of like let people enjoy things,

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 2>and I get where people are coming from.

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I understand as if like live and let Live is

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 3>like this new idea.

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 2>It's like a gen Z trend that and weightlifts. But

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 2>I can't let it happen. I am kind of trying to.

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:22.959
<v Speaker 3>You're trying to push civilization forward.

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:28.399
<v Speaker 2>With snobbery, with robs have gotten through the pure snob

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 2>just being kind of a horrible guy. No, I think

0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 2>we need to know. My meaning is being critical, overly

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:43.879
<v Speaker 2>critical and mean. I think that's what we should all

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 2>have in our lives. That should be our core that

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 2>we turned back to. Uh No, but it is just

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 2>you know what you're talking about. And then like there's

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:54.879
<v Speaker 2>just something about like the risky business of it all.

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Seeing somebody slide across a hardwood floor. I the gun

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 2>is coming out. I'm shooting you. It's too much for me,

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 2>the risky business of it all.

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it sort of depends though, because like

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 3>it's again not to bring I'm not trying to. I'm

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:17.840
<v Speaker 3>not trying to shame you for being childless. I'm not trying.

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:20.280
<v Speaker 2>But again we that we do know your voting record

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 2>and underpopulation is a problem now, but like you see

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:30.040
<v Speaker 2>kids do these.

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Things from this like pure place, and like, for some

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 3>reason when you said that, I was picturing like one

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:39.280
<v Speaker 3>of my kids sliding across the floor in their socks,

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 3>and if they did that, I would be like, that's

0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:42.959
<v Speaker 3>the greatest thing I've ever seen.

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:46.799
<v Speaker 2>But again, it is just child, yes, yeah, yeah.

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 3>But so what's interesting about that is that there must

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 3>be an age at which a day actually there must

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 3>be a moment of someone's life where they go from

0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:03.000
<v Speaker 3>being young enough that that's adorable to that is cringey

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:06.400
<v Speaker 3>and sucks, and they should be told to actually stop

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 3>doing that.

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I think if you can file your taxes when you have,

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 2>when you're responsible for your taxes, none of that goes anymore.

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 3>That's you're giving a lot of leeway. So you're saying, like,

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 3>so there's like nineteen year olds in college can be

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 3>walking around tennis racket.

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 2>They can do the Deliverance banjo song Okay.

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 3>Red when he learned to read okay banjo?

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:36.839
<v Speaker 2>Not as bad? Not as bad?

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Why is it not as bad? Because it feels like

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 3>it's a little riffing on the guitar thing.

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Right, we're taking it one step removed.

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm making fun of the people who play guitar on

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:50.760
<v Speaker 3>tennis rackets. By playing the banjo on a tennis racket.

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Now I'm off board again.

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:58.720
<v Speaker 2>No instrument unless you're doing it as a stand up bass.

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 3>So what if someone's doing it to you knowing you

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:05.359
<v Speaker 3>hate this and they're doing it, but they're still doing it.

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Does the does the irony of it like supersede the

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 3>fact that they're still doing.

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.200
<v Speaker 2>You might as well be ironically shooting someone in that

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:18.240
<v Speaker 2>hand in front of me. It's still a bad thing. Yeah,

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:20.240
<v Speaker 2>I think I agree with that. Don't put that image

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 2>in front of me just right. Also, speaking of justin

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 2>saying think little things bother me, justin Shane's I'm just

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna put him on fold, I'm.

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:30.879
<v Speaker 3>Sure you've had a list going in your head since

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 3>I said that day.

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:37.319
<v Speaker 2>No, I I think if my reputation is that I'm

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 2>just no one can please me, and everything bothers me?

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Good for me?

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:44.720
<v Speaker 3>Good for me?

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:50.440
<v Speaker 2>What is there any other little thing that really like

0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:53.239
<v Speaker 2>that stands out that bothers you, that's something you just

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 2>can't stand.

0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:58.359
<v Speaker 3>This is so unfair because like of all the strangers

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:03.799
<v Speaker 3>that do shit constantly that really bothers me. I don't

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:08.840
<v Speaker 3>love a virtue signal. I really don't. But for some reason,

0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:12.800
<v Speaker 3>the only thing coming to my mind is when my wife,

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 3>who does probably ninety nine plus percent of the upkeep

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 3>in our house, will leave like a dish that's like

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 3>out with like food crusting. That's going to make it

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 3>harder to clean even if she's going to clean it.

0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, but now you're going to use more of

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 3>your time, and that's time you could be hanging out

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:36.840
<v Speaker 3>with me. You're doing this to me, listening to me

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:37.840
<v Speaker 3>playing the guitar.

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Coming up with a compliment.

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 3>You are you're stealing from.

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Me right now. You are robbing my life and I

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:53.719
<v Speaker 2>have meaning that seems say, I can understand that. I

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:55.839
<v Speaker 2>feel like, yeah, it's hard to like think of those

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:59.280
<v Speaker 2>things in the moment. I mean, like right now, like I'll.

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Give you an example of like the and this is

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 3>something I do, so I can't I'm putting this on

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 3>other people. But I'm talking about the fires, talking about

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:08.880
<v Speaker 3>the way it is right now.

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 2>How are you doing.

0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, as good as can be expected or

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 3>like those answers that's like I'm not allowed to just

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:18.919
<v Speaker 3>say how.

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I actually yeah, I'm actually fine.

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:26.120
<v Speaker 3>I just had a really well proportioned flat white from

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:30.600
<v Speaker 3>and I'm actually doing pretty well instead of the like

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:33.880
<v Speaker 3>I have to say this in this voice because we

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 3>all know that I'm a monster if I.

0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:40.439
<v Speaker 2>Don't completely just tell me, Just tell me, yeah, yeah,

0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I like. The only other thing I can think of

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 2>right now that's like in the last couple of years

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:47.720
<v Speaker 2>that really sets me off is when I'm in public

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:49.640
<v Speaker 2>and I see somebody walking their dog that I and

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I like the dog, and I compliment it and they

0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 2>give no response. The anger that that sets off in me. Yeah,

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.960
<v Speaker 2>just say thank you or literally any reaction.

0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:07.640
<v Speaker 3>I get the furious on behalf the same issue. My

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 3>one of my boys has almost like it's just become

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:13.880
<v Speaker 3>a habit that any dog, no matter how hideous or mundane,

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 3>he goes I like your dog. I like your dog,

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 3>same c voice every time, same intonation. Uh. And that

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 3>occasionally a person will not answer, And I want to

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:28.040
<v Speaker 3>be like a child spoke to you, a child was

0:49:28.160 --> 0:49:31.320
<v Speaker 3>vulnerable to you. You answer that child.

0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm on your side. So if you would like me

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 2>to walk with you, I will have or at least record.

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 2>I can have a little button I push. You could

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:42.760
<v Speaker 2>say child, You could say a child just said something

0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:45.200
<v Speaker 2>to you. I don't think people will be that shocked.

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I would love to see the reaction I spoke said

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:53.400
<v Speaker 3>something to you, their double take to you like no,

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:54.920
<v Speaker 3>but wait, wait but.

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't know what to do. Oh boy?

0:49:59.360 --> 0:49:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, before we move on, is there anything left we

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:04.759
<v Speaker 2>should say about this insult of a book you gave

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 2>to me, just absolutely calling me out as someone with

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 2>nothing going on.

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:14.840
<v Speaker 3>No, I just I'm excited to see how you wrap

0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:17.359
<v Speaker 3>up the podcast once you read that and realize this

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:18.040
<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter.

0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 2>What if I don't.

0:50:21.520 --> 0:50:23.480
<v Speaker 3>Are you going to delete all the previous ones.

0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they'll be scrubbed from the inn. There will be

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:31.399
<v Speaker 2>no trace of this thing ever happening. So that's why

0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 2>we have you signed an NDA before.

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Do you care that no one listening to this podcast

0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 3>has any idea who I am? Because I was listening

0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 3>to one of the one of the sample ones I

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:44.520
<v Speaker 3>listened to. You're talking to someone who was like known,

0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:48.320
<v Speaker 3>and you were like, uh, this person needs no introduction,

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:52.280
<v Speaker 3>and I remember distinctly thinking I'm gonna need a long introduction.

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:56.239
<v Speaker 2>He jumped in. I was like, people are like, I

0:50:56.400 --> 0:51:02.240
<v Speaker 2>don't care, guy, and no, you're a person in the world.

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:07.600
<v Speaker 2>You've created funny television. That's the thing about this podcast.

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:11.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't care about this like the entertainment industry element

0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:15.520
<v Speaker 2>of it at all. I like the less we talk

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 2>about the worst business in the world the more, and

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:20.919
<v Speaker 2>so if the listener has a problem with that, that's

0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:24.720
<v Speaker 2>their issue. I knew you would be fun. That's literally

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:25.520
<v Speaker 2>all I care about.

0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, I should say I the times that we have

0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:32.439
<v Speaker 3>met and talked, I've always really liked you. You're very

0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 3>liked across the board, and I was eager to listen

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 3>to some podcasts and find out why I don't actually

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 3>like you.

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 2>There's so much that hasn't happen yet.

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:41.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna I gotta do a deeper die.

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:47.839
<v Speaker 2>Mountains of evidence. You're going to despise me. Okay, Well,

0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 2>we're going to play a game, but I need a

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 2>number between one and ten from you. Nine. Okay. I

0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:56.200
<v Speaker 2>have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces.

0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 2>So right now, you can recommend, promote, do whatever you

0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:00.840
<v Speaker 2>want with the microphone. I'll be right back.

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, I feel like someone's gonna say something like

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:10.000
<v Speaker 3>scolding to me if I don't mention my show Saint

0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:13.160
<v Speaker 3>Dennis Medical that we just got renewed for a second season,

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:18.280
<v Speaker 3>and we're on NBC on Tuesday nights at eight pm

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 3>and then on Peacock. And it's a mockumentary that takes

0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:25.640
<v Speaker 3>place in a hospital in the emergency room.

0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Is that a good pitch. It's a great show. Thank you,

0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:32.040
<v Speaker 2>And at least Naomi K. Paragan, former guest of the show,

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:33.960
<v Speaker 2>writes on it, I love her and it's got a

0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:36.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of great people working on it. Go watch the show.

0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 3>What are your like five let's say, favorite storylines and maybe.

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Go from there. No, it is a good show. I mean, like,

0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:51.400
<v Speaker 2>especially right now, there is no comedy on television, so

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 2>to see like a good, solidly made show. I don't know,

0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 2>it feels like we're moving back towards like actual sitcoms.

0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 2>I think people are like star for a sitcom.

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:03.359
<v Speaker 3>I think so it's it's weird to like people are

0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:07.279
<v Speaker 3>actually saying that, yes that they and I get it,

0:53:07.360 --> 0:53:10.440
<v Speaker 3>like it's completely it seems I don't know, laughing, seems

0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:12.759
<v Speaker 3>something positive.

0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:16.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Uh, listener, go watch it. Support something

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:18.840
<v Speaker 2>decent for once in your life.

0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:22.760
<v Speaker 3>This is one of the playing tennis racket as guitar

0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 3>things would be like because if we didn't laugh, we'd cry.

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Now they're flooding in saying we're storytellers.

0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:38.600
<v Speaker 2>No, I support that because we are and what we

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:43.200
<v Speaker 2>do matters. And yeah, okay, oh yeah, there are plenty

0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:48.719
<v Speaker 2>of those. Once you start thinking about people, that's the thing.

0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:52.239
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't thinking about people. Things I don't like our

0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:53.520
<v Speaker 3>people related.

0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Start describing their behavior. Yeah, okay, this is actually a

0:53:56.960 --> 0:53:59.239
<v Speaker 2>good game for both of us. It's called Gift or

0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:02.040
<v Speaker 2>a Curse. I'm going to name three things. You're going

0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:03.760
<v Speaker 2>to tell me if there are a gift or a curse?

0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:05.600
<v Speaker 2>And why I know the game.

0:54:05.640 --> 0:54:07.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm an avid listener of three episodes.

0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:10.879
<v Speaker 2>Oh bullshit. And then I'll tell you if you're right

0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:13.560
<v Speaker 2>or wrong, because there are correct answers. Okay, So this

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:16.279
<v Speaker 2>first one is from a listener named Colin. Gift or

0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:20.920
<v Speaker 2>a curse a very chatty male carrier slash male person.

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:26.600
<v Speaker 3>As is often the case with these that I've found,

0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:29.000
<v Speaker 3>and I've tried to put myself in this chair and gone,

0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 3>how would I answer that on the day, Well, I'm sweating,

0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:38.560
<v Speaker 3>and I there's a lot of variance here. Because I

0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:43.919
<v Speaker 3>love my occasionally chatty male person. He is a wonderful man.

0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:46.480
<v Speaker 3>So I out of being a person who's trying to

0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:49.360
<v Speaker 3>get in touch with my optimism again and not be

0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:52.200
<v Speaker 3>so easily rattled by the world. I am going to

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:55.600
<v Speaker 3>say that it is a gift. You want to hide

0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:58.760
<v Speaker 3>from your mail man, hide from your mail man, But I,

0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:02.439
<v Speaker 3>for one, I'm going to face him. I'm gonna try

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:04.279
<v Speaker 3>to do bits with him that he's not going to

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:06.319
<v Speaker 3>catch onto the fact that they're bits, and he's not

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:08.680
<v Speaker 3>going to yes and properly, and then we're both gonna

0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:11.160
<v Speaker 3>be feeling awkward, but we're still going to smile, and

0:55:11.200 --> 0:55:12.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm still going to tell him to have a great

0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:14.320
<v Speaker 3>day and still say safe out there.

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Stay safe out there. He hates you.

0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:20.600
<v Speaker 3>He showed me his step count once. It was alarming.

0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Eric, correct, it's a gift I love. First of all,

0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:29.040
<v Speaker 2>I love a male person, I love a male person's outfit.

0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I love everything about the postal service, and this is

0:55:32.600 --> 0:55:35.200
<v Speaker 2>one job. But first, I mean I should say I'm

0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 2>probably so off putting that none of them have ever

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:42.600
<v Speaker 2>talked to me. I'm just completely unapproachable apparently. But it

0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:45.160
<v Speaker 2>would be a dream to suddenly have this chatty friend

0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:49.360
<v Speaker 2>who's kind of locked into my life. They unlike other people,

0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:53.880
<v Speaker 2>they can't not respond to text. They're at my mailbox

0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:56.480
<v Speaker 2>every day. I would love to have a chatter. Yeah.

0:55:56.560 --> 0:56:02.160
<v Speaker 3>I think it's like they renee my mailman. I think

0:56:02.160 --> 0:56:03.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he'd be shy about me saying his name,

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:08.560
<v Speaker 3>his addresses. He has like chatted my kids up and

0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:11.759
<v Speaker 3>that's micro babysitting and I'm appreciative of that.

0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:14.880
<v Speaker 2>This this person starting to push some boundaries, but I'm not

0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:17.000
<v Speaker 2>totally comfortable. I did.

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:21.239
<v Speaker 3>I went to a movie with like a new friend once,

0:56:21.280 --> 0:56:23.799
<v Speaker 3>which doesn't happen much as an adult male. And uh,

0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:25.319
<v Speaker 3>and he brought a couple of friends and one of

0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:28.200
<v Speaker 3>his friends brought his mailman. What that I found to

0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:30.840
<v Speaker 3>be both alarming and insane.

0:56:31.719 --> 0:56:34.560
<v Speaker 2>How was this? Uh? Like, how did they explain this

0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:37.439
<v Speaker 2>to you? This is my friend Neil the mailman he said.

0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:38.839
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he said it in front of him.

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:41.040
<v Speaker 3>I think it was like, this is my buddy Neil,

0:56:41.120 --> 0:56:42.640
<v Speaker 3>and that's actually his mailman.

0:56:44.880 --> 0:56:49.880
<v Speaker 2>That's incredible. What a beautiful relationship. Yeah, we saw Maverick together.

0:56:52.280 --> 0:56:56.239
<v Speaker 2>That's a great guys movie to see. Uh wow, that's

0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 2>an interesting I mean, it's dangerous to have a maleman

0:56:59.200 --> 0:57:01.280
<v Speaker 2>that deep in your life, because if there's a betrayal

0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:03.880
<v Speaker 2>or if they do something that they cross the line,

0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:05.839
<v Speaker 2>they still have to come to your house every single day.

0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:07.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they What if they see something you don't like,

0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:10.160
<v Speaker 3>some organization you've joined.

0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:18.520
<v Speaker 2>That is return address the KKK and suddenly there's a problem. Okay,

0:57:18.520 --> 0:57:20.960
<v Speaker 2>we've gotten one correct so far. We'll see what happens

0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:21.640
<v Speaker 2>for the rest of the things.

0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:24.280
<v Speaker 3>As I said, I'm competitive, and I'm actually I'm getting

0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:26.920
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a charge right now of like

0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:29.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's adrenaline, but it's like it's

0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:32.960
<v Speaker 3>some hormone as coursing through my body that wants to win.

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:37.960
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna leave the studio very okay. Number two, this

0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:40.400
<v Speaker 2>is from a listener named Lizzie Gift. You're a curse

0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:43.120
<v Speaker 2>audio books with celebrity narrators.

0:57:44.040 --> 0:57:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Audio books with celebrity narrators, this is the challenge. I'm

0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:55.000
<v Speaker 3>not an audiobook guy. I'm gonna say I have to

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:59.840
<v Speaker 3>say curse because it's very distracting, I would think, because

0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:02.800
<v Speaker 3>you're thinking about all their personal shit, and there are

0:58:02.840 --> 0:58:06.880
<v Speaker 3>probably better readers, maybe a reader who likes to read

0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:08.760
<v Speaker 3>the Harry Potter books to his children. Who does all

0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:12.840
<v Speaker 3>the voices? Who would love to have that gig? But suddenly,

0:58:13.000 --> 0:58:15.400
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, it goes to John c Riley

0:58:15.680 --> 0:58:16.560
<v Speaker 3>or something.

0:58:16.840 --> 0:58:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Doing the worst British accent.

0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:20.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say, curse.

0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Correct. Yes, I can't believe this. I can't do a

0:58:27.120 --> 0:58:31.440
<v Speaker 2>celebrity voice in any situation. It is so distracting to me.

0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:33.360
<v Speaker 2>That's all I'm thinking about the entire time. When I

0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:36.000
<v Speaker 2>see an animated movie, I don't I don't want celebrities

0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 2>voicing anything because I'm just now picturing and thinking about them,

0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:43.600
<v Speaker 2>and it's poisoning the experience. Unless it's their memoir.

0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Sure that okay, of course, of course I'm not only

0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:51.520
<v Speaker 3>fine with that, but I find it highly sus in

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 3>touch with the young people, such if they didn't read.

0:58:56.320 --> 0:59:00.120
<v Speaker 2>If they didn't read their what is that about? That

0:59:00.240 --> 0:59:02.919
<v Speaker 2>is bizarre? How am I supposed to trust anything being said?

0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:06.360
<v Speaker 2>At this point? Even you won't stand behind it. No,

0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:10.200
<v Speaker 2>that's the only time it's appropriate. Otherwise, keep your celebrity

0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:12.960
<v Speaker 2>narrators out of I mean, and this is also speaking

0:59:12.960 --> 0:59:16.320
<v Speaker 2>of someone who doesn't listen to audiobooks, But if I

0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:19.960
<v Speaker 2>were to, I would be enraged to have Glenn Close

0:59:20.040 --> 0:59:22.320
<v Speaker 2>reading you know my John Grishakoff.

0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:27.240
<v Speaker 3>You should read the you should listen to the audiobook

0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:29.960
<v Speaker 3>of Man Search for Meaning. It's Nick Cannon.

0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:36.360
<v Speaker 2>That's the It could only be. It could only be. Okay,

0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:38.680
<v Speaker 2>you've gone two right so far, and now I'm starting

0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:42.280
<v Speaker 2>to get angry. Okay, number three give you no better

0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:46.360
<v Speaker 2>result would be me leaving psyched and you furious. And

0:59:47.800 --> 0:59:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I finished the podcast.

0:59:50.160 --> 0:59:52.720
<v Speaker 3>I have to take it over. You've read the book

0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:56.080
<v Speaker 3>decided that this is harming the world, not helping it.

0:59:56.080 --> 0:59:58.720
<v Speaker 3>It's toxic for you. I take it over. I take

0:59:58.720 --> 0:59:59.720
<v Speaker 3>it to new heights.

1:00:00.560 --> 1:00:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm watching you climb in the charts.

1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:05.880
<v Speaker 3>It helps me realize that my children were not my purpose,

1:00:05.960 --> 1:00:08.200
<v Speaker 3>that actually being a podcast celebrity was it for me.

1:00:08.760 --> 1:00:13.160
<v Speaker 2>You do become the Joe Rogan off the left, this mysterious.

1:00:12.560 --> 1:00:16.720
<v Speaker 3>Force finally filling the void. But the success turns me

1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:19.959
<v Speaker 3>to a Joe Rogan of the right. And now there's

1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:25.680
<v Speaker 3>two Joe Rogans and there's zero left Joe Rogans. That

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<v Speaker 3>changes everything. Maybe maybe that is the correct Another thing

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<v Speaker 3>that annoys me.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me be clear. Oh, I don't like when people

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<v Speaker 2>say no. Let me be clear. It's so annoyous, so

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<v Speaker 2>irritating because whatever they're about to say is not that important.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's become just a handle completely.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me be clear. Oh, don't lecture me, get out

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<v Speaker 2>of my face. Okay. Number three this is from a

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<v Speaker 2>listener named Katie Gift or a curse scented liquid hand

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<v Speaker 2>soap bottles in public restrooms that have been refilled with

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<v Speaker 2>industrial liquid soap.

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<v Speaker 3>This feels like a clear trick one, but is it

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<v Speaker 3>a trick on a trick hmmm? Where it's actually like no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>it was really just bad. I am going to say

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<v Speaker 3>that it's a gift and I will tell you why.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>When you started with scented soap in public spaces, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, fuck that. You don't decide what my hands

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<v Speaker 3>smells like. Even I don't decide that. The world decides

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<v Speaker 3>what these hands smell like, and that's how they smell.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, if it's filled with the industrial soap, you

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<v Speaker 3>know you're getting a like a bleachy, sanitized product. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a charm to like some human being went to the

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<v Speaker 3>trouble of using I guess all of the original soap

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<v Speaker 3>and then refilling it with what is clearly fraudulent pink

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<v Speaker 3>soap that is not ASoP or whatever. So there's something

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<v Speaker 3>that makes me smile. If it makes me smile, as

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<v Speaker 3>we said, lefter is important, it's a gift. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>my final answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Oh you win the game. I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, let's uh, we're being very frugal. We're,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, making do with what we have. And I

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<v Speaker 2>love it. I truly love it. That bottle shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>thrown away. That bottle. I love the pink soap. Who

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<v Speaker 2>cares about the expensive soap. Yeah, when you see kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the medicinal, fancy bottle and then you pump it

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<v Speaker 2>and you're getting the pink soap, my heart is a flutter. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy that we said, Okay, we spent fifty

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<v Speaker 2>dollars on the first bottle. From now on, we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>the bags of pink slime and the customer can deal

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, we live in America, so if there is a

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<v Speaker 3>bottle that is refillable in a public space that you

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<v Speaker 3>can be private in, someone's put in some weird liquid

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<v Speaker 3>in there and it probably came from and the pink

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<v Speaker 3>soap purifies that yes, that's something designed for America.

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<v Speaker 2>It's essentially penicillin pencilin. So no, it's an absolute gift.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, I couldn't be less happy with how

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<v Speaker 2>this game turned out. And you know if, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know what to say at this point, but good

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<v Speaker 2>for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of me wants to ask for like an hour

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<v Speaker 3>long bonus round, but part of me is like, take

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<v Speaker 3>the win. Why are you trying to double down? This

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<v Speaker 3>is why I don't go to Vegas. Why am I

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<v Speaker 3>doing this?

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<v Speaker 2>You could ruin everything? Okay, well, congratulations or whatever. Who cares.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the final segment of the podcast. People write

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<v Speaker 2>into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. My

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<v Speaker 2>listeners are desperate for answers in their own lives. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like to say it. I'm not proud that most

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<v Speaker 2>of my listening audience is just constantly dangling from a thread.

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<v Speaker 2>But I try to help and get them back on

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<v Speaker 2>the path. Will you hope me answer a question? That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm here for? Okay, this says Okay, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's literally not why I'm here, but sure, okay, this

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<v Speaker 3>says dear Bridger and surely, amazing guest.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very nice. I hope you're having a great episode

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<v Speaker 2>so far. Well, it's been fine, I would say fine

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<v Speaker 2>at best.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew how fragile your ego was. I should have

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<v Speaker 3>let you get me on one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll say it's been a very bad episode, maybe unreleasable. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>says I need help deciding what to bring for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple hosting a New Year's Eve party at their house,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will Okay, So we're clearly like catching up here. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's always another New Year's Eve party.

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<v Speaker 3>In the North Hills of Altadena, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a real.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're trying to catch up. Listener, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to whatever advice here at your next party, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's your fault. Okay, I need help. I need help

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<v Speaker 2>deciding what to bring for a couple hosting a New

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<v Speaker 2>Year's Eve party at their house. They are the oldest

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<v Speaker 2>friends of my newish boyfriend. My guy took me to

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<v Speaker 2>their Halloween party too, but it was before we were official,

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<v Speaker 2>so we brought over some drinks for ourselves but nothing

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<v Speaker 2>for them. Slashed the party. Okay, well, you each brought

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<v Speaker 2>a beer, Okay, whatever. I think they're a little suspicious

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<v Speaker 2>of me dating their friend because I'm the first girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>since it's divorced two years ago, and we are non monogamous,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas they have a traditional college sweetheart type monogamous straight marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>Well what a mouthful. So I want to bring them

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<v Speaker 2>something this time to make better impression. Okay, so still't

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<v Speaker 2>make it this email. That's my first piece of advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Crumple this up and throw it out the window. I

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<v Speaker 2>know you printed a details to know. We are all

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<v Speaker 2>mid to late THIRTI living on the East coast of

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. The hosts have two extremely cute dogs

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<v Speaker 2>and one medium cute dog. Oh that's rude. Why they

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<v Speaker 2>are great cooks Italian and Puerto Rican cuisine. He's in

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<v Speaker 2>a very loud band and she is a nurse. Oh interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a lot of insight here. My best friend

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<v Speaker 2>and fellow listener Eve. Okay, now we're bringing another listener

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<v Speaker 2>into this problem. My god, Eve suggested bringing something for

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<v Speaker 2>them to have for breakfast the next day we are

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<v Speaker 2>not staying over. Eve is almost always right. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna say right now, Eve's wrong, But I worry

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<v Speaker 2>if I bring something like that coffee cake muffins or something.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll want to put it out that night and it

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<v Speaker 2>will be weird. Please assist. I'm begging you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's from Tito, Tito, Tito, Tito, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>what are the details we're working with here? First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>she broke up a marriage, So this is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the someone who's ruined a relationship, and that's got to

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<v Speaker 2>color everything that happens from here on out.

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<v Speaker 3>Dare I say, Tito, you might be overthinking this. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's there are so many You have so many bigger

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<v Speaker 3>problems than the one you're asking about.

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<v Speaker 2>The ex wife is trying to kill you, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>worried about like a party gift. Who cares? Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is a woman. This is a woman, Tito,

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<v Speaker 2>who is married.

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<v Speaker 3>In a non monogamous not married, non monogamous relationship which

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<v Speaker 3>is which is official, with a divorcee.

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<v Speaker 2>With the divorce of two years. And it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>they're at least worried that everyone in the boyfriend's life

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<v Speaker 2>hates them, right, All the old are uncomfortable around them, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm on their side.

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<v Speaker 3>I am on almost everyone except Tito's side in this story,

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<v Speaker 3>including the medium cute, especially the media.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm cute dog.

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<v Speaker 3>It's being slandered for no reason, just like just sidekick

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<v Speaker 3>to the ball of someone standing over the rescue. Okay, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>in theory, I actually thought when I heard breakfast the

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<v Speaker 3>next day, I was like, that's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 2>You never think of that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, And it's like they're tired, They're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>worn out. I suppose you could like pre order a

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<v Speaker 3>Postmates that is going to deliver them a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>breakfast burritos.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting, interesting, Or.

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<v Speaker 3>Give a little Postmates Gifts card with a note saying

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<v Speaker 3>that right. So that would maybe be how I would

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<v Speaker 3>solve that problem. I ultimately would just like grab a

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<v Speaker 3>bottle of something. Sure, stop thinking so much about your life.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if the concern is about the breakfast item

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<v Speaker 2>them not being clear of what's to be used for,

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<v Speaker 2>do something that's obviously a breakfast item. An omelet, scrambled eggs,

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<v Speaker 2>a box of cereal. These things are not gonna put out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, charming gift a box of cereal and some milk.

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<v Speaker 3>A box of egg omelet might be tough.

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<v Speaker 2>I cooked this a few hours, just leave it on

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<v Speaker 2>the counter.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what you're gonna do, uh, this is sort of

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<v Speaker 3>a model omelet. You're gonna want to make this with

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you have.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so, now that we've said it aloud, omelet is

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<v Speaker 2>the thing they should bring. It's like it was so

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<v Speaker 2>obvious all along. I want them to bring an omelet

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<v Speaker 2>so badly. A nine egg. Put some Puerto Rican ingredients

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<v Speaker 2>in there, top to a samaranara so we could get

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a fusion thing happening. And you're gonna wake

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<v Speaker 2>up to this and just be so refreshed and happy

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<v Speaker 2>that I brought breakfast.

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<v Speaker 3>You're just gonna be thinking about how cool and thoughtful

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<v Speaker 3>and normal I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Well, Tito, you've got your answer. Don't write back in.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, stop listening the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to be changing everything. Yes, and you tell

1:10:08.200 --> 1:10:10.960
<v Speaker 2>the listener every episode. I'm begging them. Stop listening. Do

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<v Speaker 2>not tell anybody else about the podcast. Leave the negative reviews,

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<v Speaker 2>spread rumors, just destroy me. Am, Well, we answered it perfectly.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've won the game. You're part of a

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<v Speaker 2>very small group of winners. The group of full losers

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<v Speaker 2>is still a little more elite. But I guess that

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<v Speaker 2>you want to be a winner. Ultimately, and now I

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<v Speaker 2>have this book which I now it will be taking

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<v Speaker 2>up physical space in my home, so I have to

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<v Speaker 2>read it rather than just constantly going to the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>of the kindle list.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to read it so you can pass it

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<v Speaker 3>on to the next person that you see flailing.

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<v Speaker 2>I want them to know that I'm quietly judging them

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<v Speaker 2>and think that their life is a mess.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, a mess empty you would love.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there's something to work with when you've got a mess.

1:11:03.160 --> 1:11:05.759
<v Speaker 2>You can organize a mess staring into a cave.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't organize empty, bottomless.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had such a wonderful time, came here today and

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for this beautiful book and being here. Well

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen wrong, Well, listener, the podcast is over. I think

1:11:26.960 --> 1:11:30.040
<v Speaker 2>you knew that. I think that if you've listened to

1:11:30.040 --> 1:11:33.240
<v Speaker 2>at least one episode, you're clear about how this works.

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<v Speaker 2>Eventually the audio comes to an end and then you

1:11:36.160 --> 1:11:39.640
<v Speaker 2>immediately start the episode over, so soon you'll have to

1:11:39.640 --> 1:11:42.200
<v Speaker 2>do that. You'll play it over and start memorizing for

1:11:42.240 --> 1:11:46.720
<v Speaker 2>your lip syncs. But we'll see you again soon. I

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<v Speaker 2>love you, goodbye, I said. No Gifts is an exactly

1:11:55.080 --> 1:11:59.000
<v Speaker 2>right production. Our senior producer is on Alisa Nelson and

1:11:59.040 --> 1:12:02.960
<v Speaker 2>our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Toliday. The theme

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<v Speaker 2>song is by Miracle Worker Amy Mann and we couldn't

1:12:06.439 --> 1:12:10.040
<v Speaker 2>do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow

1:12:10.080 --> 1:12:12.519
<v Speaker 2>the show on Instagram. At I said, no gifts. That's

1:12:12.520 --> 1:12:14.720
<v Speaker 2>where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful

1:12:14.720 --> 1:12:17.479
<v Speaker 2>gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts?

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<v Speaker 1>Lie?

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you hear?

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<v Speaker 1>Gonta made myself perfectly clear. But you're a guest to me.

1:12:30.760 --> 1:12:37.000
<v Speaker 1>You gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests.

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<v Speaker 1>Your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So how do you dance? Survey me