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Speaker 3: And that's uh, that's kind of who I am, and

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Speaker 3: It's like whatever is It's not candy, it's like whatever

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Speaker 2: I don't love bringing it up, but I don't really

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00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: feel like I have a choice right now. Look, the

439
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 2: podcast is called I said no gifts, and I thought,

440
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: Eric will come on. He's a lovely person, will have

441
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 2: a nice time. What could go wrong, you know? And

442
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,199
Speaker 2: obviously you've been receiving plenty of emails you know the

443
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: name of the podcast. So I was sitting here minding

444
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: my own business in the studio and here you come

445
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: trotting in holding a massive gift bag, which I'm going

446
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: to assume is for me. It is indeed for you. Okay.

447
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: Interesting, So I who's listening to a couple of several

448
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 3: of podcast episodes for your show so that I could

449
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 3: pretend I listened to all of them, and I noticed

450
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 3: that there were some people who violated the role.

451
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: Interesting, and I.

452
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: This is like a trigger area for me of anxiety,

453
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: Like nothing can ruin a moment of like a vacation

454
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 3: for me more than like, am I supposed to tip

455
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 3: this guy? And I always try to error on the

456
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 3: side of something I can't be shamed for or keep

457
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 3: myself up about.

458
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 2: So I did bring a gift.

459
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: I hope it was not the wrong move, but I

460
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: felt moved to bring something.

461
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm we'll just completely shame you. You made

462
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: the wrong choice. But I mean it's here. It's so

463
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: big it's tempting that to not open. I mean, I

464
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: have to open.

465
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 3: I wanted to bring it something with a splash and

466
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 3: also something that was in my closet, and h this

467
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 3: was one of the extra gift bags that we had.

468
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: It's a gift bag that I would say is about

469
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: as half as tall as I am with a shark. Yes,

470
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: I am.

471
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: Some insane child brought this to my home. I imagine at

472
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: some point if you notice there's this shark bite taken

473
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 3: in the top.

474
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: We've gone too far with gift bags. It has like

475
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: a novelty bite out of it that's actually been Wow,

476
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: that's fascinating. I mean, this is this is more don't

477
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 2: do this. It's not as big as a shark bite,

478
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 2: so it doesn't make any sense logically.

479
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 3: It's also like the gift bag companies are like, oh,

480
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: this is what we're doing.

481
00:24:52,080 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: Now you had to We've got to push the interactive. Okay,

482
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to reach into this reaching in hand. Lol,

483
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: we've got some tissue. We love some tissue by the

484
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: mic and.

485
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 3: Oh my god, everyone loves a book.

486
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: It's a victory for Ankle's man search for meeting. I

487
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: have this on my kindle and it's always just there.

488
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: Is it really mocking here? It's like I need to

489
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: get around to it, but I still haven't.

490
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 3: Well, the nice thing about hard Top He's able to

491
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: get this one signed for you.

492
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: So if you if you open it up there, oh

493
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: this is right in his voice. This is bee Wine.

494
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: Enjoy the enjoy all the meaning your boy. Vic. These

495
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: are the typical emails I'm getting from him.

496
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 3: Ye DMS. He's he likes being in touch with like this,

497
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: sort of like gen Z jargon.

498
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: I love, by the way, to have a on this book.

499
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 2: It says over sixteen million copies, so that's like putting

500
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 2: that on the Bible or insane. So many people are

501
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: seeking meaning.

502
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: Let this Holocaust survivor tell you what he gleaned from

503
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: watching thousands die.

504
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: Reese Witherspoon loves it. Wow, this is fast. Okay, Well

505
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: tell me more about why you brought this so.

506
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: Everybody everybody needs more meaning. And I thought especially during

507
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 3: this time that because I was I was personally going

508
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: through these ups and downs, that I might get back

509
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: into this book, which I read, I don't know, like

510
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: almost a decade ago, and that thing that gets thrown

511
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 3: around a love like a book that changed my life

512
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: or whatever, this one actually did. I read this and

513
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: then I left my job at the time.

514
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: I was.

515
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: I read this during like season three of Superstore, and

516
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 3: I read this book and it's about purpose and how

517
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 3: you're getting in touch with your purpose can sort of

518
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: like get you through anything essentially, and I was what

519
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: I took from this was I.

520
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 2: Can't write any more Glenn Bee.

521
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: Stories, and so I gave up the living I was

522
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: making and I had one kid in one on the way.

523
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: And that's how much this book affected me. And I

524
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: thought you might want to be affected.

525
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: You looked at me and said, there's someone with a

526
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 2: hollow life.

527
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: There's someone who needs some train anything.

528
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: But well, I didn't know that about that. You would

529
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: quit the show.

530
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And don't get me wrong, I went onto a

531
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 3: different show like three months later, but he was on

532
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: HBO oh okay, and it was a bad experience. But

533
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: but yeah, I find I think what I'm really doing

534
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: is projecting onto you what I'm feeling like I need

535
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: to get back in touch with. Even by getting it

536
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 3: for you picked it up, it's used, it's I leafed

537
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 3: through a couple of pages and was like, oh, yeah,

538
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: I forgot about that way of having meaning and so

539
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: it's already helping me.

540
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: So when you quit the job and before you realized

541
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: that you were wrong and that you had to get

542
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: back to television the most meaningful thing of all, what

543
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: were those three months? Like? Are you trying new things? Yeah?

544
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: I was trying to just well at first, I was like,

545
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 3: is it about like my writing and my career? And

546
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: not my career, but I mean like what I want

547
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: to do as a writer, because maybe this, Maybe I

548
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: have something else in me that's not this, And if

549
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: I keep doing this, is it going to make my

550
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: writing just like this?

551
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: Right?

552
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: And and then I had this kind of bad experience

553
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: on something that I thought would be something more in

554
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: line with my point of view. And then my second

555
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: son was born, and I realized afterwards that I am

556
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: like a lot more basic of a person than I

557
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: thought I was, because I think, is it hook where

558
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: he's like being a father? That's my happy thought or whatever.

559
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 3: I realized afterwards that like my kids and my family

560
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 3: really were that the right, what I felt like was

561
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 3: my biggest purpose. And it's not like that took away

562
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: from all the other things I wanted to do, but

563
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: it made those sort of in service of this sort

564
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: of greater at least greater for me thing that I

565
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: that just meant so much to me as a person.

566
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: Don't remember what your question was, but you did the

567
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: powerful combination of hook and man search for me.

568
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: And then Okay, so circling back, Okay, I do have

569
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: I can stick this landing, I swear. So then I realized, like, well,

570
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: if that's true, then if my job doesn't have to

571
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: be my identity, then maybe my job can be something

572
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: that makes me happy that I actually enjoy doing and

573
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: I don't have to put so much on it that

574
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: has to be everything for me, right, And so I

575
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: ended up going like back into these like sitcoms and

576
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: having so much fun working on them. I worked with

577
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: my friend Sierra on Brutherford Falls. I went back home

578
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: and worked with Justin Spitzer on American Auto, and I

579
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: was just like having a blast again, like just laughing

580
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: with people I like all day and then coming home

581
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: to like my beautiful sons and wife and family, and

582
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: that also like stops me from sleeping and occasionally makes

583
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: my life absolutely miserable of course, but I found some

584
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: balance that I think now partially because I have a

585
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: baby that's again ruining my life, I'm hoping to get

586
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 3: back to.

587
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: Is this therapy? It is? This isn't being recorded? Okay, yeah, no,

588
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: no, no no, I'm going to charge you after this, and

589
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: it's it will not be covered by insurance.

590
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna submit a super bill, but that's fine.

591
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: Well, if we don't accepting super bills, I will make

592
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: your life hell.

593
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: I will send the super bill to the company and

594
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 3: I will find a way to subtly signal Louis G.

595
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: Mangioni and just put him in the in the zeitgeist

596
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: of the super bill, to put a little fear of

597
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: them into.

598
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: No. I think that's very nice because I think as

599
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: a writer myself, you get into these TV writing rooms

600
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: and frequently people are so miserable, and it's you're supposed

601
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: to be doing something fun and enjoyable, and it can be,

602
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: but it becomes so stressful for almost no reason at all.

603
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: People just start layering their personal anger and problems into it,

604
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: and the thing you're like supposed to be making funny

605
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: television and everyone's mad. Yeah. Yeah. So to be able

606
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: to just be like to even push a little bit

607
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: of that away, I think is nice. I think you

608
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: get to go home and not be mad totally.

609
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: I think it applies like on a micro level like that,

610
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: and in the sense of, like there has to be

611
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: joy in the room to make a really funny show.

612
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: I think less it's going to be like super cynically

613
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: funny and that's it. There is going to be a

614
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: ton of stress, as I found out running my first

615
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: show this past year. But I think it's the job

616
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: of the showrunner and to a certain extent, like the

617
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: number two on the show, to kind of absorb some

618
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: of that stress and find ways to get it out

619
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: that aren't putting it on all.

620
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: The writers right.

621
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: Sort of do have to be protected like babies in

622
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: a way, just in the sense of like they're there

623
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: to like have fun and solve problems but also be

624
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: playful and come up with creative solutions, and so you

625
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: do need like the vibe is a real thing. But

626
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: also I think like the times we're in Like all

627
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 3: you hear is about how dark the times we're in

628
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: r and how bad everything is. And I don't subscribe

629
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: to that.

630
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: Voted for Donald Trump.

631
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: We're all good. No, But I think it's like I

632
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: even now I hear the other voice being like, it's

633
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: easy for you to say, and like it's not. I mean,

634
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: it's just it actually is. It's easy for anyone to say,

635
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: like things are bad, but like there's also a lot

636
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: of good in the world. I think, like the aftermath

637
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: of the fires has certainly shown that to people who

638
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: live here. And so I do think that like having

639
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: something that you're that's an anchor in your life. And

640
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry this isn't funny, but having something that's

641
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 3: an anchor in your life, I do think can really

642
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: help you change your perspective.

643
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: Of course, is something meaningful, Yeah, and I yeah, obviously,

644
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: like sometimes moment to moment things can be horrible, but like, yeah,

645
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: I remind myself of that all the time. If I

646
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: can just like zoom back into my own body and

647
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: life and just like look around, I'm like okay, I'm okay. Yeah,

648
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: Like I'm watching TV.

649
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that can be yours watching TV.

650
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: It is and it always will be. If you want

651
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: to just jam on some of what your purpose could

652
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: be watching a television show that I am reluctantly watching.

653
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: Your purpose, Bridger, is the two screen experience. It had

654
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: to be someone's and buddy, it's yours. That's the real gift.

655
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: It's not the book, Bridger, it was never the book.

656
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: It is the book.

657
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: But no, I really could pick up some hobbies. I

658
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 2: could use more things in my life. I was rock

659
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: climbing for a while but then stopped doing that, and

660
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 2: now climbing rock climbing, that's indoor rock climbing. Let's not

661
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: get okay, so foam climbing. What is the material like

662
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: hard plastic climbing? All I know is ain't rock. It's

663
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: certainly hot, and you will never see me on the

664
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: side of an actual rock. No, thank you. Yeah. But

665
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: then that went away and I realized that I've gotten.

666
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: Featuring you like free soloing, and I was just like,

667
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 3: what this person, No, no, no, At the Pasadena Community Center,

668
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: there's a little six and a half foot wall.

669
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: No, do you have hobbies?

670
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: You know I do have hobbies. I went almost my

671
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: I went a lot of my life without hobbies. After

672
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: my midlife crisis, I feel like happened around thirty nine.

673
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: In anticipation, I was trying to get ahead of it, keep.

674
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: An eye on seventy eight everybody.

675
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: And I started just like jumping into stuff. I very

676
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: lazily played the guitar my whole life, like just chords,

677
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 3: just I could like try to figure out the basics

678
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 3: of a song.

679
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: And I was.

680
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 3: Like, I should try to get better before I die.

681
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: I might as well try. And then I started. I

682
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 3: had like hurt my ankle playing basketball, and I was

683
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: in bed for a few days, and I started trying

684
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: to learn Italian one of those apps. And then I

685
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 3: started sailing, like right before the pandemic, and I tried

686
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: to hear.

687
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: I don't know why I saw having a melt up.

688
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: Yes, it was a response to a midlife crist that

689
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: became a joke in my family and extended family of

690
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: like what the next thing is and how there's no

691
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: chance I'll be sailing six months from now. But I

692
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 3: started just like picking up a few things and just

693
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: going with them. And I started playing tennis about a

694
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: year and a half ago, and I went to my

695
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: first I took a lesson with this guy who is

696
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 3: about ninety seven years old, and he told me he

697
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: had to sit for most of the lesson because he

698
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 3: was like in an extreme pain because he needed.

699
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 2: Surgery that kept getting rescheduled. Anyway, he took this.

700
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: He was like, I'm gonna take a video of you

701
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 3: and this will be like the before and then we'll

702
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: do like six weeks of lessons and then we'll we'll

703
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: show you how much better you got. So I'm like,

704
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: I haven't hit a ball since I was a kid.

705
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: So I get I get him mostly in and I'm

706
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: like psyched. And after a few he's like, all right, stop,

707
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 3: I gotta.

708
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: Turn off the machine. Hold on, we're gonna stop the video,

709
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: all right. I think I think we're not ready for

710
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 2: the before video.

711
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: What he says it was, I'm not good enough for

712
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 3: the before video. He wants me to take a few

713
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: lessons and build up to the before video.

714
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: This will destroy yourself content.

715
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: I'm telling my wife this and she's in between laughing

716
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: at me. She's like, well, he's probably trying to like

717
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: neg you so that you'll like take more lessons interesting

718
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: and get And I was like, no, I signed up

719
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: for an hour and a half and he cut it

720
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 3: after under an hour and was like, let's just wrap

721
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: this up.

722
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: I'm sick to my stomach here.

723
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: And so I took that as a like, now I

724
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 3: need to get good at tennis. Like now I need

725
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: to learn how to play tennis. So I hire this

726
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: local coach and negro Rock named Merlin to teach me.

727
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: Merlin.

728
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: I love the name Merlin, such a good name, and

729
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: so we've never addressed it. I've never been able to

730
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 3: be like, so let's talk about Merlin, and it's just

731
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: like this his name, and that's it, and I'm not

732
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: allowed to say anything.

733
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: You have to address that with that name. When you

734
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: say my name is Merlin, you have to say something.

735
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: And here's why it should take you six minutes just

736
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 3: to introduce yourself. When your name is Merlin, there needs

737
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: to be at least one apology.

738
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: Do you. Oh, I guess we can't say his name

739
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: on the podcast, but I assume it's Jones or Anderson. Right,

740
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: So are you feeling like you're you've gotten to a

741
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 2: point that you could at least do a before tennis video.

742
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: I've certainly graduated well well past before you get competitive.

743
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 3: I do, Yeah, I am like a I'm a competitive

744
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 3: person when I'm like into it and something. And so

745
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: I've been taking these live ball classes recently where you're

746
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: kind of like cycling through like these little mini battles.

747
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: It's like a group class, and so you can be

748
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: really competitive for like two points, then like someone destroys

749
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: you and you go wait in line to lose again.

750
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, I do get that way in the moment

751
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: and also in life generally, and also very intensely with

752
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: my spouse.

753
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: Very hard to I don't think I've ever successfully hit

754
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 2: a tennis ball over a.

755
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: Net, really, and that is how many attempts.

756
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: Well, probably not enough, but I think every time I've

757
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: ever tried it hasn't happened.

758
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: It's very it's not as intuitive as it seems like

759
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 3: it should be, right. And that's a tricky thing about tennis,

760
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,479
Speaker 3: is like you think you're just like whacking the ball

761
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: and that should do it, and then they're like, no,

762
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: you need to actually learn this very awkward like wind

763
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 3: up and.

764
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: Right the risks in all of that, it's not worth

765
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: my time.

766
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm also always I should say I'm competitive without

767
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: having sufficient natural ability to be competitive.

768
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: Oh so it's just it's just hard.

769
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 3: I have to ruty every situation.

770
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 2: Are you still playing the guitar?

771
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: I am still playing the guitar. There was a period

772
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 3: where I was doing it like obsessively, especially during the pandemic.

773
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 3: I was like practicing eight hours a day, and I

774
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 3: feel like I got to like intermediate, and I'm I

775
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 3: think I'm happy at intermediate. So now I'm just like

776
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 3: trickling a little better every six months.

777
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: Or so, and that's enough to probably play most of

778
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,959
Speaker 2: your favorite music unless.

779
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: It's all like no, and I like these very like

780
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 3: soft boy like folks songs, and so it's like I've

781
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 3: reached the point where I'm like, I I can play

782
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 3: well enough that I feel like I should be impressing

783
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 3: my wife, but she doesn't care. She'll occasionally, like I'll

784
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: feel like she's about to, like say a compliment or whatever.

785
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 3: I'll finish a song and she'll be like, do you

786
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 3: want this chicken broccoli?

787
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 2: Or should I throw it out? I'm like, oh, devastated,

788
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: I want it, sad. You know, I'm just realizing is

789
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 2: one of the most irritating things I could possibly see.

790
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: And I apologize if you've done this before, but it's

791
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 2: when somebody plays the tennis racket like a guitar. Can

792
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 2: you imagine that's just such an annoying thing.

793
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 3: But like it's been a while, I'm picturing like a

794
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: Bill and Ted Era, like someone being like like doing

795
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: the noise, and the choice of the noise the knee,

796
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: I think is what would really.

797
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: Push it over its.

798
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,959
Speaker 3: Our mutual friend Justin Shanes told me that I think

799
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 3: think it was an insult. He was like, you both

800
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 3: get really annoyed at little things.

801
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: Oh interesting about both of us.

802
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said it about you, and then he goes, so,

803
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: I think you guys would really get along, And I

804
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: was like, I thought you were just talking about him.

805
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm glad to know some of the gossip that's

806
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: going around about me, justin spreading these lies. No, I'm

807
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: very easy going. Nothing bothers me.

808
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 3: Your whole body tense stuff, it's like absolutely paralyzed.

809
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: No, these are the sort of things that will just

810
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 2: drive me out of my mind. Somebody, if I were

811
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: to see a friend playing a tennis racket like a guitar,

812
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 2: they would never hear from me. Again.

813
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: There's a lot of like little I guess there's a

814
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 3: good internet term millennial core that comes to mind. That's

815
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 3: just like doing like like silly things that like I'm

816
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 3: just like a kook, like that vibe of I'm just

817
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 3: to cook. It could be playing the tennis racket as

818
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 3: a guitar. It could be like having a you know,

819
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: a pillow with a little expression on it.

820
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: There's so many.

821
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: It's a wide swath of annoying things that I don't know.

822
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's weird. It's like as I get older, I

823
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: get a little more and it worries me that I'm

824
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 3: getting a little bit more accepting of those things.

825
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: Uh huh, they're not bothering you as much. You're letting

826
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: your guard down.

827
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 3: My mother in law has a I think she used

828
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 3: to have like a clock that said it's wine time

829
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 3: with Cindy.

830
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: Sure. I support that, And I was like that's adorable, that's.

831
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 3: Great, And then part of me was just like, no,

832
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 3: you hate this. You must hate this.

833
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 2: Keep the flame alive. Six months from now, it's wine

834
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: time with a yeah, yeah, no, yeah, it's a whiskey thirty.

835
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: There is still a lot of it. There's like there

836
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: has been this movement of like let people enjoy things,

837
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: and I get where people are coming from.

838
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: I understand as if like live and let Live is

839
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: like this new idea.

840
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: It's like a gen Z trend that and weightlifts. But

841
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: I can't let it happen. I am kind of trying to.

842
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,959
Speaker 3: You're trying to push civilization forward.

843
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 2: With snobbery, with robs have gotten through the pure snob

844
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: just being kind of a horrible guy. No, I think

845
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: we need to know. My meaning is being critical, overly

846
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 2: critical and mean. I think that's what we should all

847
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: have in our lives. That should be our core that

848
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: we turned back to. Uh No, but it is just

849
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: you know what you're talking about. And then like there's

850
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 2: just something about like the risky business of it all.

851
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 2: Seeing somebody slide across a hardwood floor. I the gun

852
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: is coming out. I'm shooting you. It's too much for me,

853
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: the risky business of it all.

854
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it sort of depends though, because like

855
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: it's again not to bring I'm not trying to. I'm

856
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 3: not trying to shame you for being childless. I'm not trying.

857
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 2: But again we that we do know your voting record

858
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: and underpopulation is a problem now, but like you see

859
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: kids do these.

860
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: Things from this like pure place, and like, for some

861
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: reason when you said that, I was picturing like one

862
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 3: of my kids sliding across the floor in their socks,

863
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 3: and if they did that, I would be like, that's

864
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:42,959
Speaker 3: the greatest thing I've ever seen.

865
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: But again, it is just child, yes, yeah, yeah.

866
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: But so what's interesting about that is that there must

867
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 3: be an age at which a day actually there must

868
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: be a moment of someone's life where they go from

869
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: being young enough that that's adorable to that is cringey

870
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 3: and sucks, and they should be told to actually stop

871
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 3: doing that.

872
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: I think if you can file your taxes when you have,

873
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: when you're responsible for your taxes, none of that goes anymore.

874
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: That's you're giving a lot of leeway. So you're saying, like,

875
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 3: so there's like nineteen year olds in college can be

876
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: walking around tennis racket.

877
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: They can do the Deliverance banjo song Okay.

878
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: Red when he learned to read okay banjo?

879
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 2: Not as bad? Not as bad?

880
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: Why is it not as bad? Because it feels like

881
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: it's a little riffing on the guitar thing.

882
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: Right, we're taking it one step removed.

883
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: I'm making fun of the people who play guitar on

884
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 3: tennis rackets. By playing the banjo on a tennis racket.

885
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: Now I'm off board again.

886
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 2: No instrument unless you're doing it as a stand up bass.

887
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 3: So what if someone's doing it to you knowing you

888
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 3: hate this and they're doing it, but they're still doing it.

889
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: Does the does the irony of it like supersede the

890
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: fact that they're still doing.

891
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: You might as well be ironically shooting someone in that

892
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 2: hand in front of me. It's still a bad thing. Yeah,

893
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 2: I think I agree with that. Don't put that image

894
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: in front of me just right. Also, speaking of justin

895
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: saying think little things bother me, justin Shane's I'm just

896
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: gonna put him on fold, I'm.

897
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 3: Sure you've had a list going in your head since

898
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: I said that day.

899
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: No, I I think if my reputation is that I'm

900
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: just no one can please me, and everything bothers me?

901
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: Good for me?

902
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 3: Good for me?

903
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: What is there any other little thing that really like

904
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: that stands out that bothers you, that's something you just

905
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: can't stand.

906
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 3: This is so unfair because like of all the strangers

907
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 3: that do shit constantly that really bothers me. I don't

908
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 3: love a virtue signal. I really don't. But for some reason,

909
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 3: the only thing coming to my mind is when my wife,

910
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: who does probably ninety nine plus percent of the upkeep

911
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: in our house, will leave like a dish that's like

912
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 3: out with like food crusting. That's going to make it

913
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: harder to clean even if she's going to clean it.

914
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, but now you're going to use more of

915
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 3: your time, and that's time you could be hanging out

916
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 3: with me. You're doing this to me, listening to me

917
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 3: playing the guitar.

918
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: Coming up with a compliment.

919
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 3: You are you're stealing from.

920
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: Me right now. You are robbing my life and I

921
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: have meaning that seems say, I can understand that. I

922
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, it's hard to like think of those

923
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 2: things in the moment. I mean, like right now, like I'll.

924
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: Give you an example of like the and this is

925
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: something I do, so I can't I'm putting this on

926
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 3: other people. But I'm talking about the fires, talking about

927
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 3: the way it is right now.

928
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: How are you doing.

929
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 3: Well, you know, as good as can be expected or

930
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: like those answers that's like I'm not allowed to just

931
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 3: say how.

932
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: I actually yeah, I'm actually fine.

933
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 3: I just had a really well proportioned flat white from

934
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: and I'm actually doing pretty well instead of the like

935
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 3: I have to say this in this voice because we

936
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 3: all know that I'm a monster if I.

937
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 2: Don't completely just tell me, Just tell me, yeah, yeah,

938
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: I like. The only other thing I can think of

939
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: right now that's like in the last couple of years

940
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 2: that really sets me off is when I'm in public

941
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: and I see somebody walking their dog that I and

942
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: I like the dog, and I compliment it and they

943
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 2: give no response. The anger that that sets off in me. Yeah,

944
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: just say thank you or literally any reaction.

945
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: I get the furious on behalf the same issue. My

946
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: one of my boys has almost like it's just become

947
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 3: a habit that any dog, no matter how hideous or mundane,

948
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: he goes I like your dog. I like your dog,

949
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: same c voice every time, same intonation. Uh. And that

950
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 3: occasionally a person will not answer, And I want to

951
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: be like a child spoke to you, a child was

952
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 3: vulnerable to you. You answer that child.

953
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: I'm on your side. So if you would like me

954
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: to walk with you, I will have or at least record.

955
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: I can have a little button I push. You could

956
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 2: say child, You could say a child just said something

957
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: to you. I don't think people will be that shocked.

958
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: I would love to see the reaction I spoke said

959
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 3: something to you, their double take to you like no,

960
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 3: but wait, wait but.

961
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: No, I don't know what to do. Oh boy?

962
00:49:59,360 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: Uh?

963
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: Well, before we move on, is there anything left we

964
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: should say about this insult of a book you gave

965
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: to me, just absolutely calling me out as someone with

966
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: nothing going on.

967
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 3: No, I just I'm excited to see how you wrap

968
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 3: up the podcast once you read that and realize this

969
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: doesn't matter.

970
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: What if I don't.

971
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 3: Are you going to delete all the previous ones.

972
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: Yes, they'll be scrubbed from the inn. There will be

973
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 2: no trace of this thing ever happening. So that's why

974
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: we have you signed an NDA before.

975
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 3: Do you care that no one listening to this podcast

976
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: has any idea who I am? Because I was listening

977
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: to one of the one of the sample ones I

978
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: listened to. You're talking to someone who was like known,

979
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 3: and you were like, uh, this person needs no introduction,

980
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 3: and I remember distinctly thinking I'm gonna need a long introduction.

981
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: He jumped in. I was like, people are like, I

982
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 2: don't care, guy, and no, you're a person in the world.

983
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: You've created funny television. That's the thing about this podcast.

984
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: I don't care about this like the entertainment industry element

985
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: of it at all. I like the less we talk

986
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: about the worst business in the world the more, and

987
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 2: so if the listener has a problem with that, that's

988
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 2: their issue. I knew you would be fun. That's literally

989
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: all I care about.

990
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 3: Well, I should say I the times that we have

991
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 3: met and talked, I've always really liked you. You're very

992
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 3: liked across the board, and I was eager to listen

993
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: to some podcasts and find out why I don't actually

994
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 3: like you.

995
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: There's so much that hasn't happen yet.

996
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I gotta do a deeper die.

997
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 2: Mountains of evidence. You're going to despise me. Okay, Well,

998
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: we're going to play a game, but I need a

999
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: number between one and ten from you. Nine. Okay. I

1000
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 2: have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces.

1001
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: So right now, you can recommend, promote, do whatever you

1002
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 2: want with the microphone. I'll be right back.

1003
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I feel like someone's gonna say something like

1004
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: scolding to me if I don't mention my show Saint

1005
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: Dennis Medical that we just got renewed for a second season,

1006
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 3: and we're on NBC on Tuesday nights at eight pm

1007
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 3: and then on Peacock. And it's a mockumentary that takes

1008
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: place in a hospital in the emergency room.

1009
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: Is that a good pitch. It's a great show. Thank you,

1010
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: And at least Naomi K. Paragan, former guest of the show,

1011
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: writes on it, I love her and it's got a

1012
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 2: lot of great people working on it. Go watch the show.

1013
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 3: What are your like five let's say, favorite storylines and maybe.

1014
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: Go from there. No, it is a good show. I mean, like,

1015
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 2: especially right now, there is no comedy on television, so

1016
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 2: to see like a good, solidly made show. I don't know,

1017
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: it feels like we're moving back towards like actual sitcoms.

1018
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: I think people are like star for a sitcom.

1019
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 3: I think so it's it's weird to like people are

1020
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 3: actually saying that, yes that they and I get it,

1021
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 3: like it's completely it seems I don't know, laughing, seems

1022
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 3: something positive.

1023
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. Uh, listener, go watch it. Support something

1024
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: decent for once in your life.

1025
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 3: This is one of the playing tennis racket as guitar

1026
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: things would be like because if we didn't laugh, we'd cry.

1027
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: Now they're flooding in saying we're storytellers.

1028
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: No, I support that because we are and what we

1029
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: do matters. And yeah, okay, oh yeah, there are plenty

1030
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: of those. Once you start thinking about people, that's the thing.

1031
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking about people. Things I don't like our

1032
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 3: people related.

1033
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: Start describing their behavior. Yeah, okay, this is actually a

1034
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: good game for both of us. It's called Gift or

1035
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: a Curse. I'm going to name three things. You're going

1036
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 2: to tell me if there are a gift or a curse?

1037
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: And why I know the game.

1038
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 3: I'm an avid listener of three episodes.

1039
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 2: Oh bullshit. And then I'll tell you if you're right

1040
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: or wrong, because there are correct answers. Okay, So this

1041
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: first one is from a listener named Colin. Gift or

1042
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: a curse a very chatty male carrier slash male person.

1043
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 3: As is often the case with these that I've found,

1044
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: and I've tried to put myself in this chair and gone,

1045
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 3: how would I answer that on the day, Well, I'm sweating,

1046
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: and I there's a lot of variance here. Because I

1047
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 3: love my occasionally chatty male person. He is a wonderful man.

1048
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 3: So I out of being a person who's trying to

1049
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 3: get in touch with my optimism again and not be

1050
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: so easily rattled by the world. I am going to

1051
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 3: say that it is a gift. You want to hide

1052
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 3: from your mail man, hide from your mail man, But I,

1053
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 3: for one, I'm going to face him. I'm gonna try

1054
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 3: to do bits with him that he's not going to

1055
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 3: catch onto the fact that they're bits, and he's not

1056
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 3: going to yes and properly, and then we're both gonna

1057
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: be feeling awkward, but we're still going to smile, and

1058
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 3: I'm still going to tell him to have a great

1059
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 3: day and still say safe out there.

1060
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 2: Stay safe out there. He hates you.

1061
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 3: He showed me his step count once. It was alarming.

1062
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 2: Eric, correct, it's a gift I love. First of all,

1063
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: I love a male person, I love a male person's outfit.

1064
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: I love everything about the postal service, and this is

1065
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: one job. But first, I mean I should say I'm

1066
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: probably so off putting that none of them have ever

1067
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: talked to me. I'm just completely unapproachable apparently. But it

1068
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 2: would be a dream to suddenly have this chatty friend

1069
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: who's kind of locked into my life. They unlike other people,

1070
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 2: they can't not respond to text. They're at my mailbox

1071
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: every day. I would love to have a chatter. Yeah.

1072
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 3: I think it's like they renee my mailman. I think

1073
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 3: I don't think he'd be shy about me saying his name,

1074
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 3: his addresses. He has like chatted my kids up and

1075
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 3: that's micro babysitting and I'm appreciative of that.

1076
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 2: This this person starting to push some boundaries, but I'm not

1077
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: totally comfortable. I did.

1078
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 3: I went to a movie with like a new friend once,

1079
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 3: which doesn't happen much as an adult male. And uh,

1080
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 3: and he brought a couple of friends and one of

1081
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 3: his friends brought his mailman. What that I found to

1082
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 3: be both alarming and insane.

1083
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 2: How was this? Uh? Like, how did they explain this

1084
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 2: to you? This is my friend Neil the mailman he said.

1085
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 3: I don't think he said it in front of him.

1086
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: I think it was like, this is my buddy Neil,

1087
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 3: and that's actually his mailman.

1088
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: That's incredible. What a beautiful relationship. Yeah, we saw Maverick together.

1089
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: That's a great guys movie to see. Uh wow, that's

1090
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: an interesting I mean, it's dangerous to have a maleman

1091
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 2: that deep in your life, because if there's a betrayal

1092
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 2: or if they do something that they cross the line,

1093
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 2: they still have to come to your house every single day.

1094
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they What if they see something you don't like,

1095
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 3: some organization you've joined.

1096
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: That is return address the KKK and suddenly there's a problem. Okay,

1097
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: we've gotten one correct so far. We'll see what happens

1098
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: for the rest of the things.

1099
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 3: As I said, I'm competitive, and I'm actually I'm getting

1100
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 3: a little bit of a charge right now of like

1101
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's adrenaline, but it's like it's

1102
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 3: some hormone as coursing through my body that wants to win.

1103
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna leave the studio very okay. Number two, this

1104
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: is from a listener named Lizzie Gift. You're a curse

1105
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: audio books with celebrity narrators.

1106
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 3: Audio books with celebrity narrators, this is the challenge. I'm

1107
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 3: not an audiobook guy. I'm gonna say I have to

1108
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 3: say curse because it's very distracting, I would think, because

1109
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 3: you're thinking about all their personal shit, and there are

1110
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 3: probably better readers, maybe a reader who likes to read

1111
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 3: the Harry Potter books to his children. Who does all

1112
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 3: the voices? Who would love to have that gig? But suddenly,

1113
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it goes to John c Riley

1114
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 3: or something.

1115
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: Doing the worst British accent.

1116
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, curse.

1117
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: Correct. Yes, I can't believe this. I can't do a

1118
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 2: celebrity voice in any situation. It is so distracting to me.

1119
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: That's all I'm thinking about the entire time. When I

1120
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 2: see an animated movie, I don't I don't want celebrities

1121
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 2: voicing anything because I'm just now picturing and thinking about them,

1122
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: and it's poisoning the experience. Unless it's their memoir.

1123
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: Sure that okay, of course, of course I'm not only

1124
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 3: fine with that, but I find it highly sus in

1125
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 3: touch with the young people, such if they didn't read.

1126
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 2: If they didn't read their what is that about? That

1127
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,919
Speaker 2: is bizarre? How am I supposed to trust anything being said?

1128
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: At this point? Even you won't stand behind it. No,

1129
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 2: that's the only time it's appropriate. Otherwise, keep your celebrity

1130
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: narrators out of I mean, and this is also speaking

1131
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: of someone who doesn't listen to audiobooks, But if I

1132
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: were to, I would be enraged to have Glenn Close

1133
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: reading you know my John Grishakoff.

1134
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 3: You should read the you should listen to the audiobook

1135
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 3: of Man Search for Meaning. It's Nick Cannon.

1136
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 2: That's the It could only be. It could only be. Okay,

1137
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: you've gone two right so far, and now I'm starting

1138
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: to get angry. Okay, number three give you no better

1139
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: result would be me leaving psyched and you furious. And

1140
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 2: I finished the podcast.

1141
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 3: I have to take it over. You've read the book

1142
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 3: decided that this is harming the world, not helping it.

1143
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 3: It's toxic for you. I take it over. I take

1144
00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 3: it to new heights.

1145
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm watching you climb in the charts.

1146
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 3: It helps me realize that my children were not my purpose,

1147
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: that actually being a podcast celebrity was it for me.

1148
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 2: You do become the Joe Rogan off the left, this mysterious.

1149
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 3: Force finally filling the void. But the success turns me

1150
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,959
Speaker 3: to a Joe Rogan of the right. And now there's

1151
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 3: two Joe Rogans and there's zero left Joe Rogans. That

1152
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 3: changes everything. Maybe maybe that is the correct Another thing

1153
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 3: that annoys me.

1154
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 2: Let me be clear. Oh, I don't like when people

1155
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: say no. Let me be clear. It's so annoyous, so

1156
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: irritating because whatever they're about to say is not that important.

1157
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 3: No, it's become just a handle completely.

1158
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: Let me be clear. Oh, don't lecture me, get out

1159
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: of my face. Okay. Number three this is from a

1160
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: listener named Katie Gift or a curse scented liquid hand

1161
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: soap bottles in public restrooms that have been refilled with

1162
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: industrial liquid soap.

1163
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 3: This feels like a clear trick one, but is it

1164
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 3: a trick on a trick hmmm? Where it's actually like no, no, no,

1165
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 3: it was really just bad. I am going to say

1166
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 3: that it's a gift and I will tell you why.

1167
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 2: I think so.

1168
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: When you started with scented soap in public spaces, I

1169
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 3: was like, fuck that. You don't decide what my hands

1170
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 3: smells like. Even I don't decide that. The world decides

1171
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: what these hands smell like, and that's how they smell.

1172
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 3: But anyway, if it's filled with the industrial soap, you

1173
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 3: know you're getting a like a bleachy, sanitized product. There's

1174
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 3: a charm to like some human being went to the

1175
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 3: trouble of using I guess all of the original soap

1176
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 3: and then refilling it with what is clearly fraudulent pink

1177
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 3: soap that is not ASoP or whatever. So there's something

1178
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 3: that makes me smile. If it makes me smile, as

1179
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 3: we said, lefter is important, it's a gift. And that's

1180
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 3: my final answer.

1181
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh you win the game. I love this.

1182
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 2: First of all, let's uh, we're being very frugal. We're,

1183
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 2: you know, making do with what we have. And I

1184
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: love it. I truly love it. That bottle shouldn't be

1185
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 2: thrown away. That bottle. I love the pink soap. Who

1186
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 2: cares about the expensive soap. Yeah, when you see kind

1187
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 2: of the medicinal, fancy bottle and then you pump it

1188
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: and you're getting the pink soap, my heart is a flutter. Yeah.

1189
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 2: I'm so happy that we said, Okay, we spent fifty

1190
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 2: dollars on the first bottle. From now on, we're getting

1191
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: the bags of pink slime and the customer can deal

1192
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 2: with it.

1193
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 3: Also, we live in America, so if there is a

1194
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 3: bottle that is refillable in a public space that you

1195
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 3: can be private in, someone's put in some weird liquid

1196
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 3: in there and it probably came from and the pink

1197
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 3: soap purifies that yes, that's something designed for America.

1198
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 2: It's essentially penicillin pencilin. So no, it's an absolute gift.

1199
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 2: And I mean, I couldn't be less happy with how

1200
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 2: this game turned out. And you know if, I don't

1201
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: even know what to say at this point, but good

1202
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 2: for you.

1203
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 3: Part of me wants to ask for like an hour

1204
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 3: long bonus round, but part of me is like, take

1205
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 3: the win. Why are you trying to double down? This

1206
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 3: is why I don't go to Vegas. Why am I

1207
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 3: doing this?

1208
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: You could ruin everything? Okay, well, congratulations or whatever. Who cares.

1209
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 2: This is the final segment of the podcast. People write

1210
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 2: into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. My

1211
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: listeners are desperate for answers in their own lives. I

1212
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 2: don't like to say it. I'm not proud that most

1213
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 2: of my listening audience is just constantly dangling from a thread.

1214
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 2: But I try to help and get them back on

1215
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: the path. Will you hope me answer a question? That's

1216
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 2: what I'm here for? Okay, this says Okay, Well.

1217
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 3: It's literally not why I'm here, but sure, okay, this

1218
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 3: says dear Bridger and surely, amazing guest.

1219
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 2: That's very nice. I hope you're having a great episode

1220
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 2: so far. Well, it's been fine, I would say fine

1221
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 2: at best.

1222
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 3: I knew how fragile your ego was. I should have

1223
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 3: let you get me on one.

1224
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll say it's been a very bad episode, maybe unreleasable. Okay,

1225
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 2: says I need help deciding what to bring for a

1226
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 2: couple hosting a New Year's Eve party at their house,

1227
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 2: and I will Okay, So we're clearly like catching up here. Well,

1228
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: there's always another New Year's Eve party.

1229
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 3: In the North Hills of Altadena, and I think it's

1230
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 3: gonna be a real.

1231
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 2: You know, we're trying to catch up. Listener, you're gonna

1232
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: have to whatever advice here at your next party, and

1233
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 2: that's your fault. Okay, I need help. I need help

1234
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 2: deciding what to bring for a couple hosting a New

1235
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 2: Year's Eve party at their house. They are the oldest

1236
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: friends of my newish boyfriend. My guy took me to

1237
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 2: their Halloween party too, but it was before we were official,

1238
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 2: so we brought over some drinks for ourselves but nothing

1239
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 2: for them. Slashed the party. Okay, well, you each brought

1240
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 2: a beer, Okay, whatever. I think they're a little suspicious

1241
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 2: of me dating their friend because I'm the first girlfriend

1242
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: since it's divorced two years ago, and we are non monogamous,

1243
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 2: whereas they have a traditional college sweetheart type monogamous straight marriage.

1244
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: Well what a mouthful. So I want to bring them

1245
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: something this time to make better impression. Okay, so still't

1246
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 2: make it this email. That's my first piece of advice.

1247
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 2: Crumple this up and throw it out the window. I

1248
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 2: know you printed a details to know. We are all

1249
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 2: mid to late THIRTI living on the East coast of

1250
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 2: the United States. The hosts have two extremely cute dogs

1251
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 2: and one medium cute dog. Oh that's rude. Why they

1252
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 2: are great cooks Italian and Puerto Rican cuisine. He's in

1253
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: a very loud band and she is a nurse. Oh interesting,

1254
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 2: You've got a lot of insight here. My best friend

1255
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: and fellow listener Eve. Okay, now we're bringing another listener

1256
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: into this problem. My god, Eve suggested bringing something for

1257
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 2: them to have for breakfast the next day we are

1258
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: not staying over. Eve is almost always right. Well, I'm

1259
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 2: just gonna say right now, Eve's wrong, But I worry

1260
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 2: if I bring something like that coffee cake muffins or something.

1261
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 2: They'll want to put it out that night and it

1262
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: will be weird. Please assist. I'm begging you, thank you.

1263
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 2: And that's from Tito, Tito, Tito, Tito, Oh my god,

1264
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 2: what are the details we're working with here? First of all,

1265
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 2: she broke up a marriage, So this is kind of

1266
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 2: the someone who's ruined a relationship, and that's got to

1267
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: color everything that happens from here on out.

1268
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 3: Dare I say, Tito, you might be overthinking this. Uh,

1269
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 3: it's there are so many You have so many bigger

1270
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 3: problems than the one you're asking about.

1271
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 2: The ex wife is trying to kill you, and you're

1272
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 2: worried about like a party gift. Who cares? Okay, So

1273
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: this is this is a woman. This is a woman, Tito,

1274
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: who is married.

1275
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,439
Speaker 3: In a non monogamous not married, non monogamous relationship which

1276
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 3: is which is official, with a divorcee.

1277
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: With the divorce of two years. And it seems like

1278
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: they're at least worried that everyone in the boyfriend's life

1279
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 2: hates them, right, All the old are uncomfortable around them, right,

1280
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 2: And I'm on their side.

1281
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 3: I am on almost everyone except Tito's side in this story,

1282
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 3: including the medium cute, especially the media.

1283
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 2: I'm cute dog.

1284
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 3: It's being slandered for no reason, just like just sidekick

1285
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 3: to the ball of someone standing over the rescue. Okay, right, yeah,

1286
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 3: in theory, I actually thought when I heard breakfast the

1287
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 3: next day, I was like, that's a great idea.

1288
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 2: You never think of that.

1289
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 3: No, And it's like they're tired, They're going to be

1290
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 3: worn out. I suppose you could like pre order a

1291
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 3: Postmates that is going to deliver them a couple of

1292
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 3: breakfast burritos.

1293
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, interesting, Or.

1294
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 3: Give a little Postmates Gifts card with a note saying

1295
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 3: that right. So that would maybe be how I would

1296
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 3: solve that problem. I ultimately would just like grab a

1297
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 3: bottle of something. Sure, stop thinking so much about your life.

1298
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 2: I mean, if the concern is about the breakfast item

1299
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 2: them not being clear of what's to be used for,

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01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 2: do something that's obviously a breakfast item. An omelet, scrambled eggs,

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01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 2: a box of cereal. These things are not gonna put out.

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01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 3: Yes, charming gift a box of cereal and some milk.

1303
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 3: A box of egg omelet might be tough.

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01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 2: I cooked this a few hours, just leave it on

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01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 2: the counter.

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01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 3: Here's what you're gonna do, uh, this is sort of

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01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 3: a model omelet. You're gonna want to make this with

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01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 3: whatever you have.

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01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 2: Okay, so, now that we've said it aloud, omelet is

1310
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 2: the thing they should bring. It's like it was so

1311
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: obvious all along. I want them to bring an omelet

1312
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 2: so badly. A nine egg. Put some Puerto Rican ingredients

1313
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 2: in there, top to a samaranara so we could get

1314
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 2: kind of a fusion thing happening. And you're gonna wake

1315
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 2: up to this and just be so refreshed and happy

1316
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: that I brought breakfast.

1317
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,799
Speaker 3: You're just gonna be thinking about how cool and thoughtful

1318
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:52,480
Speaker 3: and normal I am.

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01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 2: Wow. Well, Tito, you've got your answer. Don't write back in.

1320
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 3: Honestly, stop listening the podcast.

1321
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 2: You need to be changing everything. Yes, and you tell

1322
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 2: the listener every episode. I'm begging them. Stop listening. Do

1323
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 2: not tell anybody else about the podcast. Leave the negative reviews,

1324
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 2: spread rumors, just destroy me. Am, Well, we answered it perfectly.

1325
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: I think you've won the game. You're part of a

1326
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 2: very small group of winners. The group of full losers

1327
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 2: is still a little more elite. But I guess that

1328
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 2: you want to be a winner. Ultimately, and now I

1329
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 2: have this book which I now it will be taking

1330
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 2: up physical space in my home, so I have to

1331
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 2: read it rather than just constantly going to the bottom

1332
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 2: of the kindle list.

1333
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 3: You have to read it so you can pass it

1334
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 3: on to the next person that you see flailing.

1335
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 2: I want them to know that I'm quietly judging them

1336
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 2: and think that their life is a mess.

1337
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 3: Uh, a mess empty you would love.

1338
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: Yes, there's something to work with when you've got a mess.

1339
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,759
Speaker 2: You can organize a mess staring into a cave.

1340
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 3: You can't organize empty, bottomless.

1341
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 2: I've had such a wonderful time, came here today and

1342
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 2: thank you for this beautiful book and being here. Well

1343
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 2: sixteen wrong, Well, listener, the podcast is over. I think

1344
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 2: you knew that. I think that if you've listened to

1345
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 2: at least one episode, you're clear about how this works.

1346
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 2: Eventually the audio comes to an end and then you

1347
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 2: immediately start the episode over, so soon you'll have to

1348
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: do that. You'll play it over and start memorizing for

1349
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 2: your lip syncs. But we'll see you again soon. I

1350
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 2: love you, goodbye, I said. No Gifts is an exactly

1351
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: right production. Our senior producer is on Alisa Nelson and

1352
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 2: our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Toliday. The theme

1353
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: song is by Miracle Worker Amy Mann and we couldn't

1354
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow

1355
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 2: the show on Instagram. At I said, no gifts. That's

1356
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 2: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful

1357
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 2: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts?

1358
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: Lie?

1359
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 2: Why did you hear?

1360
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: Gonta made myself perfectly clear. But you're a guest to me.

1361
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests.

1362
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: Your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff.

1363
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 2: So how do you dance? Survey me