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Speaker 1: the first fires application, But then Steele was fired for

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Speaker 1: what lying and leaking? What about the three renewal applications?

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Speaker 1: Then their own argument doesn't hold water, does it? They

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Speaker 1: I'd go further than that. I would say that you know,

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Speaker 1: the press reports that they presented to the court in

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Speaker 1: this circular reporting thing they did. That was ridiculous for

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Speaker 1: them to take that position. There was there was like

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Speaker 1: eight ways to Sunday that anybody should have understood that

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Speaker 1: things that they withheld from the court and all the

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Speaker 1: things that they absolutely should exactly were inaccurate, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a very hard time, especially as time

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Speaker 1: of it had been debunked, and that Steele himself denied

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Speaker 1: his own dossier and any truth in it. Let me

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Speaker 1: take it a step further here, because we also have

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Speaker 1: a lot going on with John Dorham. A lot of

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Speaker 1: time I've been told by my sources had been spent

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Speaker 1: in Europe. Then another way that they was sort of

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Speaker 1: a backdoor way to spy on the Trump campaign, transition

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Speaker 1: and presidency was through the use of foreign intelligence friendly

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Speaker 1: intelligence sources in Great Britain, Italy and Australia. That would

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Speaker 1: be Professor Misfit. That means that the Muller Report was wrong.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't Russian intelligence but Western intelligence. His role in

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Speaker 1: all of this, the way they went after Clovis, Papadoppolos,

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Speaker 1: and Page abroad. And then the big question to me

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Speaker 1: is whether they purposely outsourced intelligence gathering of American citizens

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Speaker 1: against spying against Americans without a warrant. That case seems

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Speaker 1: to be an even bigger part of the troubles that

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Speaker 1: you're right about that, and I also think this is

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Speaker 1: the vexing problem which may prevent us from ever getting

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Speaker 1: that if he had disclosed that they would have accused

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Speaker 1: him of obstruction, and that was something that he had

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Speaker 1: to wrestle with. But I think the other thing that

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Speaker 1: the intelligence agencies, I imagine are beating him with is

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Speaker 1: that even if terrible wrongs were done here, these are

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Speaker 1: relationships that we have with these international or foreign intelligence

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Speaker 1: We actually do rely on for information. That is that

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Speaker 1: is I'm all in favor of the best, and I

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Speaker 1: do think our three letter agencies we have the premier

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Speaker 1: intelligence agencies in the world. I think we have the

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Speaker 1: premier law enforcement agency and the FBI in the entire world.

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Speaker 1: I have no issue with them spying to protect us

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Speaker 1: and the dangerous job they do every day, and I

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Speaker 1: have no complaints at all. But I do have a

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Speaker 1: complaint if those powerful weapons we entrust to them are

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Speaker 1: then turned not only on the American people, but used

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Speaker 1: election because they don't like the results. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's the crux of where we are with this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you look, you and me both. What I'm worried about, Sean,

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Speaker 1: is that there's so much foreign intelligence service involving in this.

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Speaker 1: My book argues that this scheme goes back to twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 1: and I think it doesn't start with the FBI, It

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Speaker 1: starts with the CIA and foreign intelligen services. And what

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Speaker 1: I'm worried about is the intelligence agencies are arguing to

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Speaker 1: the President that he can't disclose all this information, because

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Speaker 1: even if it shouldn't have happened, we have these arrangements

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Speaker 1: with the Foreign intelligence services, and we can't violate if

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Speaker 1: they abuse their power, if they assisted in spying on

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Speaker 1: Americans to circumvent our laws. Well, the American people, I think,

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Speaker 1: need to know that truth. That is something that the

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Speaker 1: president would be able to do. That's why I've argued

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Speaker 1: that we need to know what happened here. But I'm

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Speaker 1: just trying to understand what the other side is arguing,

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Speaker 1: and I imagine that that's their their biggest weapon. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's going to fly, because the president has

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Speaker 1: full authority to unredact, to unredact anything he wants, and

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Speaker 1: release anything he wants. And if it is going to

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Speaker 1: clean up an abuse of power and a corruption that

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Speaker 1: was used to steal an election or a soft coude,

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Speaker 1: then we better see that information and we better fix it,

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Speaker 1: because we won't have a country if we don't. Andy.

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Speaker 1: The book is fascinating. We wish all the best. Ball

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Speaker 1: of Collusion, The Plot to Rig an election, Destroyer Presidency.

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Speaker 1: Hannity dot com, Amazon dot com, bookstores, everywhere. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for being Willis. Thanks so much, John Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump once again is a racist who makes ever more

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Speaker 1: outrageous racist remarks. It is insulting both to the congressman

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Speaker 1: and to the people he represents. This is just who

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is. He's just an old racist and this

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Speaker 1: is how he talks about people. This is what he

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Speaker 1: thinks about people. This is not a grand strategy. He

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Speaker 1: is not playing four or five six dimensional chess. He's

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Speaker 1: just an old racist who uses social media goals. Republican

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Speaker 1: strategists are endorsing this strategy that's rased on the racial divide. Well,

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Speaker 1: there are a bunch of racists and listen. He is

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Speaker 1: not a president for black people. He's not a president

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Speaker 1: for women. He's not a president for brown people. He's

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Speaker 1: not a president for the LGBTQ community. He chooses to

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Speaker 1: just double down and triple down on bigotry and racism.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where Donald Trump is wants to take this,

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Speaker 1: but it's wherever it is, it's going to be dangerous.

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Speaker 1: It could lead to some sort of horrible civil war.

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Speaker 1: These are very personal issues, and this president speaks with

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Speaker 1: the casual racism of bull Connor. Our president has a

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Speaker 1: hate agenda. This is a crooked CEO in the White

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Speaker 1: House that is making decisions based on profits, based on

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Speaker 1: where his friends and based on what his Trump organization,

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Speaker 1: his for profit industry would benefit from. He's a sick

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Speaker 1: person who even when we denounce something, he's happy because

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Speaker 1: at least we know that somebody he thinks he's controlling things. Bryan,

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Speaker 1: We're not going to correct him. He's not going to change.

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Speaker 1: He's so far down this road of evil. He's not

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Speaker 1: going to change. And I thought those tweets about Baltimore

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Speaker 1: were pretty reminiscent of Trump's comments about s whole countries.

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Speaker 1: The President in his heart has this image of what

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Speaker 1: real America is and what the better America is, and

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Speaker 1: it's clear that for him that better America is white

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Speaker 1: skinned American. Yeah, I mean you would, you would call

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Speaker 1: it a dog whistle to you know, except that we

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Speaker 1: can all hear it. I mean, it's you know, dog whistles.

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Speaker 1: You can't hear it. This guy is the biggest identity

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Speaker 1: politician that we have seen in the last fifty years,

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Speaker 1: and he engages in what's known as racial priming, basically

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Speaker 1: using this language and taking actions to try and get

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Speaker 1: people to move into their camps by racial and ethnic identity.

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Speaker 1: Our job is to bring people together to improve life

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Speaker 1: for all people, not to be a have a racist

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Speaker 1: president who talks people because they are African Americans. That

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Speaker 1: is a disgrace and that is why we're going to

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Speaker 1: defeat this president. The President says about Congressman Cummings District

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Speaker 1: that no human would want to live there. You know

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Speaker 1: who did, mister President. I did from the day I

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Speaker 1: was brought home from the hospital to the day life

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Speaker 1: for college, and a lot of people I care about

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Speaker 1: still do. There are challenges, no doubt, but people are

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Speaker 1: proud of their community. I don't want to sound self righteous,

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Speaker 1: but people get up and could to work there. They

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Speaker 1: care for their families there, They love their children who

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Speaker 1: pledge allegiance to the flag, just like people who live

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Speaker 1: in districts of congressmen who support you, sir, they are

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Speaker 1: Americans too, all right? Glad you were those news round

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Speaker 1: up information overload our eight hundred and nine four one

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Speaker 1: sean if you want to be a part of the program. Right,

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Speaker 1: So you got the media mob the Democrats, yeah, attacking

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Now, I know we've been over I know

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Speaker 1: that there's there's never ending, unceasing attacks against the detention centers.

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Speaker 1: And when we sent our Fox News cameras down there

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Speaker 1: with Griff Jenkins, what do we see. We saw people

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Speaker 1: that slept in beds. We saw a facility that was

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Speaker 1: safe of any type of crime or activity of any

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Speaker 1: sort like that, and blankets and pillows and food and water,

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Speaker 1: and medicine and baby formula and diapers and doctors and

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Speaker 1: a soccer field than other wreck facilities and TVs and telephones,

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Speaker 1: and everybody was safe. Now do I think that's ideal. No,

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Speaker 1: But for people that didn't respect our borders or sovereignty,

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Speaker 1: our laws, etc. We're doing the right thing and eventually

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Speaker 1: they go through whatever the process is. I think people

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Speaker 1: should be deported immediately, but you know that's apparently not

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Speaker 1: doable under the current laws, well morally more under the

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Speaker 1: current court decisions. And you have all these people, you know,

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Speaker 1: attacking Now the President did bring up that. We have,

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Speaker 1: for example, all the media coverage on the shooting in

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Speaker 1: El Paso, and it's blamed Donald Trump for El Paso,

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Speaker 1: but they within hours we had a shooting in Dayton.

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Speaker 1: While the person in Dayton was a radical socialist Elizabeth

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Speaker 1: Warren supporter, but nobody in the media blamed Elizabeth Warren,

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Speaker 1: nor should they have, Nor should they have blamed Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump for El Paso. Nor would you blame Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 1: for what happened in the shooting in the ball field

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago by this logic. But let's

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Speaker 1: take Chicago alone. We had one hundred people shot in

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Speaker 1: the last two weekends. On Monday, I will report to

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Speaker 1: you how many people were shot over this weekend. I hope.

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Speaker 1: I hope that I could report nobody. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that'll be the case based on what we see every weekend.

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Speaker 1: But you don't see the outrage from the politicians that

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Speaker 1: are only worked up over El Paso. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why they're not worked up over the conditions and cities

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Speaker 1: like Baltimore and Chicago and Detroit, I mean, cities that

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Speaker 1: have violence on the same par as these shootings that

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Speaker 1: we hear about every weekend. I think we can do

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Speaker 1: better as a country. I think the President's right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you have seventeen thousand buildings that have been evacuated,

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Speaker 1: why are we sending people in to either bulldoze them

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Speaker 1: or if they're structurally sound, maybe rebuilding them and maybe

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Speaker 1: finding a way to create a partnership with Bernie Marcus

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Speaker 1: and Home Depot and get the get the materials for cost.

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Speaker 1: I bet Bernie would do that as part of a

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Speaker 1: rebuilding of a great American city where our family lives.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's we can do better than this.

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Speaker 1: These cities where you see the most violence, have the

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Speaker 1: strictest gun laws. This guy in Philadelphia had been arrested

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Speaker 1: for gun violence in the past. That background checks would

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Speaker 1: not have impacted the shooter in Dayton or the shooter

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Speaker 1: in El Paso. You know, there's a you can't stop

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Speaker 1: evil that way is by taking away the law abiding

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Speaker 1: citizens right to defend themselves. Anyway, here to talk about this,

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Speaker 1: Baltimore is a messed as an article that came out

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Speaker 1: about you know, huge issues there. All these cities for

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Speaker 1: decades run by liberal Democrats have not helped the people

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Speaker 1: in these cities. I don't believe liberalism, socialism, redistributionism works anyway.

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Speaker 1: Reverend Charles c. Adams is with us. He's the presiding

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Speaker 1: pastor of Hartford Memorial Baptist Church. He's in Detroit. Pastor

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Speaker 1: Daryl Scott, founder and Senior pastor of the New Spirit

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Speaker 1: Revival Center, part of the President's Urban Diversity Coalition. Welcome

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Speaker 1: both of you. We have one hundred shootings that took

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Speaker 1: place Pastor Scott in the last two weekends in Chicago alone,

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Speaker 1: but we don't hear about it except for my show. No,

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Speaker 1: you don't hear about it because the left knows that

646
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: these are on democratic run cities, and you know, with

647
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: Chicago especially being Obama's home base. But you know, here's

648
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: one thing they don't bring out, Sean, most of the

649
00:37:54,760 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: gun violence in the inner cities, they're not crimes passion.

650
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: Most of the gun violence is drug related, and they

651
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: don't want to bring out that one unpleasant reality. Well,

652
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: it's all. It's based on a lot of different dynamics

653
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: to it. You know, the schools are bad, the neighborhoods

654
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: are bad. And to be quite honest, and people might

655
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: take me to task for this, but hip hop, the

656
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: hip hop culture incentivizes blacks to desire a lifestyle that

657
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: only seems to be available to ball players or rappers

658
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: or drug dealers. Okay, I can't play basketball on the

659
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: professional level, I can't rap, but I want this this bling,

660
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: I want this lifestyle. It's the same thing that influenced me.

661
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: When I was growing up, I was a victim of

662
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: the black exploitation movies in the sixties. My role models,

663
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: the role models that I had were Superflied and the

664
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: Mac and all of these guys, and they were all

665
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: drug dealers and they had the big car lifestyle, and

666
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: we would look at that say, oh, that's what I want.

667
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: So when the role models at a place before the

668
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: black community, add those of those elements, and you see,

669
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: this is my way to get quick money and I

670
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: can live this lifestyle and have these same things that

671
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: they have eachest way to do it. The shortcut to

672
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: this is this is our family. Everyone that shot is

673
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: part of our American family, and they're dying in the

674
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: ninety percent of heroin that is crossing that southern border.

675
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 1: That alone ord to incentivize this country to to have

676
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: a border wall and a door. We're losing three hundred

677
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: kids a week to heroin and opioid overdoses. We bring

678
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: in pastor Charles c Adams. I don't want this to

679
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: happen to our family, our kids. I don't want to

680
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to report Monday that there was one

681
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: shooting in Chicago. I want the people in Chicago and

682
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: the people of Philadelphia to be safe. And we saw

683
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: two percent of the people taunting and throwing crap at

684
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: the cops the other day, pelting them with stuff and

685
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: the cops are in the middle a shootout where six

686
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: of them got shot. Why is that happening? Well, immediately,

687
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: we need an assault weapons banduh in this country. There's

688
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: no reason why somebody should be running around with an

689
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: AAR fifteen. He did not create it, he did not

690
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: build it. We need stricter gun laws, not just in Pennsylvania. Remember,

691
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: and you do understand that, you can you do understand Yeah,

692
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: I mean well, pastor, you do understand that anybody that

693
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 1: wants to build any device that's going to kill large

694
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: numbers of people, you can do that in ten seconds.

695
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: If that's where your heart is. All you're going to

696
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: be doing is taken away the rights of other people

697
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,479
Speaker 1: to defend themselves from evil if it enters their home

698
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: and threatens their family. But we have more gun violence

699
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: in the United States because of our stubborn Chicago has

700
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: the highest the toughest gun laws in the country. They

701
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: have the laws. Illinois has some of the toughest gun

702
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: laws in the country, but Indiana does not, and a

703
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: lot of these guns are coming across state lines. There's

704
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: the gunster. You gotta understand something. The guy in Philly

705
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: had already been arrested on gun charges, and he still

706
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: went out. Why wasn't he in jail. You're not making

707
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: any sense, that's all. You're blaming an inanimate object. The guys,

708
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: some of them, are not supposed to own guns. He

709
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: bought the gun illegally when I was in the streets.

710
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: We have the guns a lot. All of the guns

711
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: were purchased illegally. Okay, If where did he get the gun?

712
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: Take a start? Where did the sar hang on? Where

713
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: did the Sarno brothers get get the the slow cooker?

714
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: What do you call that thing? The pressure cook Where

715
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: did they get that? About it? Locally? We're gonna ban

716
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: pressure cookers next. I mean, we gonna ban knives next.

717
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: Hire arms. You might as well throw us on there,

718
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: because we had a couple of knife things recently we

719
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: are talking about in there fifteen. You cannot compare that

720
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: to a pressure cooker or a knife. Tell that to

721
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: the people in Boston that had their lights blown off, sir,

722
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You're not feeling let me

723
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: tell you something about Let me tell you something past

724
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: the alboms about gun. Guns take on the character and

725
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: the nature of the individual that possesses them. In a

726
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: good man's hands, the gun is good. In a bad

727
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: man's hand, the gun is bad. It's not the gun

728
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: that determines the crime. It's the criminal that determines the crime.

729
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: But you cannot determine who is good or who is

730
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: bad before they get the gun. And it only takes

731
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: one person to shoot six police officers who are armed,

732
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: and it takes one person to kill Okay, So let

733
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: me ask you a question, paster, you're hung up on

734
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: the AAR fifteen. One quick question. If the next shooting

735
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: incident is with a pistol, you want to ban pistols?

736
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: Do you want to ban all guns? If the hold on,

737
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: if the you bang, you hang out? No, no, no, listen,

738
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: you bang your AR fifteen, you ban Then the next

739
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: shooter has a bunch of pistols. Do you wanted them

740
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: ban pistols too? That's when you hit You know what?

741
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: If yes or no? Background checks, stronger background. I didn't

742
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: ask you that. I'm asking you well, the people and

743
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: the people in dating and el Passo had a background check,

744
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: they passed it. So do you want to band would

745
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: you want to ban pistols? If the next shooting happens

746
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: to be used to use a pistol, would you want

747
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: to ban them semi automatic pistols? Yes? If because so,

748
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: you basically want to take away you want to leave

749
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: us defenseless. Let's be honest, you how long did the

750
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: hell pass those shooters? I'll get back to all Right,

751
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna take this into the next half hour. We

752
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: have Reverend Charles c Adams, Pastor Darryl Scott. All Right,

753
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: as we roll along, we're gonna hold our friends, Pastor

754
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: Charles c Adams and Pastor Darryl Scott past the half

755
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: hour news break because this is just too important. You

756
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: look at the numbers of people's Chicago one city, one

757
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: hundred people shot, and then the answers, it's the same

758
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: predictable answer. Well, we're gonna get rid of this gun

759
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 1: or that gun. Okay, Well, then the next shooting incident

760
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: is going to be another gun, or it's gonna be

761
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: the The Insane Anarchist Cookbook a book that has written

762
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: that teaches people how to build bombs. And what about

763
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: the Sarnov brothers. Do we get rid of those slow cookers?

764
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: What do you call those slow cookers? And it quick

765
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: crock pots of pressure cookers. I don't know. I never

766
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: put cook with a pressure cooker. I'd rather use a

767
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: George Foreman girl. But they're using Look at the people

768
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: in Boston, and then if the next one after that

769
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: is going to be a revolval, we'll have to ban revolvers.

770
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: The only problem is at the into this process, when

771
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: law abiding Americans have given up their arms, they now

772
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: have no defense in their homes. I know Hollywood liberals

773
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: can afford armed guards, and I know our politicians have

774
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: armed guards and police. Well, what does the average American

775
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: get to do? There's a lot of evil in this world.

776
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: The evil is in one's heart. The guy and Philly

777
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: should have been in jail for his prior weapons laws

778
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: that he broke. Quick break right back more on the

779
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: other side. All right, glad you whether us twenty five

780
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: Now till the top of the hour, We're going to

781
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: get back to Pastor Reverend Charles c Adams and Pastor

782
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: Darryl Scott. I want to give you some numbers that

783
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: just recently came out because it's very interesting after El

784
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: Paso and Dayton, Ohio, along with the shootings that we

785
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: see sadly every weekend in cities like Chicago. I don't

786
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: know why, you know, generations now of only liberal so

787
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: called leadership hasn't fixed any of these problems. Anyway, The

788
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: call now is the predictable, Oh, let's ban this, let's

789
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: pan that. Well, okay, well, then we will disarm law

790
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: abiding citizens. What do they do when evil people like

791
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: the guy in Philly, he had already been arrested, he

792
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: had never violated. He had for violating the gun laws.

793
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: We had background checks in al Paso and Dayton. Anyway,

794
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: if you look at it in the Center for Disease

795
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: Control and Prevention, the FBI and other sources, and you

796
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: look at public opinion findings, you know how many people

797
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: die from gun related injuries in the US every year. Well,

798
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: suicides accounted for six and ten US gun deaths in

799
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, that's the most recent year. We have thirty nine,

800
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: seven hundred and seventy three people from gun related injuries

801
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: according to the CDC. What share of US gun deaths

802
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: or murders and what share of suicides. Well, in twenty

803
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: seventeen it was six and ten that were suicides thirty

804
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: seven percent murder. What share of all murders and suicides

805
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: involved a gun, Well, three quarters of all US murders

806
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: involved day firearm. How has the number of gun desks

807
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: changed over time, That's another good question. But the bottom

808
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: line is after declining in the late nineteen nineties, US

809
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: gun suicide gun murder rates have edged higher. And I

810
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: think what Rudy Giuliani did in the City of New

811
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: York was he focused on this specific streets, areas, neighborhoods

812
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: where the crimes were happening and they had stopping frisk

813
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: and it was controversial and he was called the race.

814
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: But it worked, and it worked dramatically. We went from

815
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: about twenty five hundred murders a year to below five hundred.

816
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: That's two thousand lives saved a year. We continue a

817
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: pastor Darryl Scott and the Reverend Charles c Adams. So

818
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: if you banned assault weapons and then we have incidents

819
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: with pistols, then you're gonna ban semi automatic pistols, Okay,

820
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: then then shooting after that will be a guy that

821
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: has four hundred pistols and he just lines them up

822
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: and he shoots one after another in rapid fire. Then

823
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: I guess the next logical thing you'd want to ban

824
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: as all guns? Is that true, Pastor? And absolutely not,

825
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: although we do have to take seriously certain provisions in

826
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: our gun laws, like four gun shows that provide a

827
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: loophole for criminals to get guns and for guns to

828
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: proliferate in the inner city. And then also different laws

829
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: for different states. So if I live in a state

830
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: that has strict gun laws and another state near me

831
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: does not, then that negates the value of those strict

832
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: gun laws. So you want the federal government to be

833
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: able to step in and have basically full gun control

834
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: or gun Do you support a gun buyback program? Do

835
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: you support absolutely national laws? Cities, cities or creatures of

836
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: the state. States are subordinate to the federal government. We're

837
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: all one country, so whatever one state does affects another state.

838
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: So you could talk about the liberal Democrats that have

839
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: run the cities, but who's running the state and whoever

840
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: runs the stake, they still must vow to the federal government.

841
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: But then what's going to happen if if instead of

842
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: firearms what if people start using other improvised weapons. I

843
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: mentioned the anarchist cookbook. I mentioned the anarchist cookbook. You can,

844
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: sadly in this today, go online and find out how

845
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: to make bombs. What are you gonna do when a

846
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: lot of those materials you can buy it like home depot,

847
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Then? Pastor ban everything that

848
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: can build a bomb. The Pastor there is simply echoing

849
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: talking points. He doesn't really he doesn't really even believe.

850
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: This is not coming out of his heart, that's coming

851
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: out of his head. I think stopping frisk would be

852
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: a good idea. I think curfew enforcement, I think increase

853
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: police presidents. And I'm talking about I'm talking about it

854
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: from a perspective of a guy that was out there

855
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: in those streets, that was handling gun, that was around

856
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: a lot of drug and whatever trafficking. I know the

857
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Speaker 1: mentality of those guys out there drug I mean done

858
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Speaker 1: by back programs coming out selling that guns back, they're

859
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Speaker 1: keeping those guns. And he's speaking month again on talking

860
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Speaker 1: points that he has that he probably be prepared before

861
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Speaker 1: he went on the show. But I'll tell you what

862
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Speaker 1: if someone in his family, someone close to him that

863
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Speaker 1: he loves gets shot, he won't be blaming the gun

864
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Speaker 1: for it. He'd be blaming it on the person that

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Speaker 1: did the shooting. That's a great question. Adams answer that

866
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Speaker 1: in the city ends the gun violence. I was talking

867
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Speaker 1: with father Flager the other week who had an adopted

868
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Speaker 1: son that died in his arms, who was killed to

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Speaker 1: seventeen years old by a gang by a gun. So

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Speaker 1: people who are four stricter gun laws are not necessarily

871
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Speaker 1: removed from the reality. It's all the more pressing for us.

872
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: This is something that we have been applicating for years

873
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: to simply say it's a matter of the heart as

874
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: an over simplification. And you can look at the numbers

875
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: of gun test in the United States on the on

876
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: the United States, the continuous United States. Looks at the

877
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: number of gun dates, gun deaths in Hawaii where the

878
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: states are not connected, where you can't just run across

879
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: the border with the gun that you purchased at a

880
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: gun show and sell it in Hawaii, where you have

881
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: to jump on a plane, there's a vast difference between

882
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: the two because you cannot disconnect one step from another.

883
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: What if you're fellarbustering man, wait a minute. It gives

884
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: let somebody else in here, just the tiles Adam son

885
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: had of each other, there's not one. So stop for

886
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: a minute. What I'm saying, is this any adamisity, any

887
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: sadness you had? All of that shooting was not directed

888
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: at the gun. You know that seventeen year old board

889
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: that died. Any angst or or sadness, It was not

890
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: directed at the gun. It was directed at the shooter.

891
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: So so so, the banning of a gun is not

892
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: the answer. It doesn't It doesn't make anybody's heart feel better. Oh,

893
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 1: Junior died, but they banned the gun. That doesn't make

894
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: you feel better. You can deal with were dealing with

895
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: the perpetrators. We have to stop those that are perpetrating

896
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: these crimes. The gun is just just an incidental a

897
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: tool that is used in the commission of the crime.

898
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: You cannot do as much damage with the knife, and

899
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: you know that better than anybody else passed the scott.

900
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: You know that you cannot do as much damage with

901
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: the knife, then you can't have done. You never bring

902
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: a knife to a gunfight. Brother, Now, now, isn't that

903
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: since you come from the streets, don't you know that

904
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: knife are done. It doesn't matter. Understand that in Chicago

905
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: it's three times the roster as citizens. Three tries the

906
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: times man man to say we're going to take measures

907
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: like stopping Prince Sean. I was in New York studying

908
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: when stopping Chris was at its height. The reason why

909
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: you saw a less crime, it's because the economy recovered.

910
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 1: But stopping frisk disufortunately affected African Americans, Patinos, and all

911
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: or eight percent of the turn time the people were

912
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: innocent who were detained. Okay, let me say this the results,

913
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: let me fit it. Okay, here's the thing. We went

914
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: from twenty five hundred murders a year in New York City.

915
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: Now we're down around four or three hundred. We're saving lives. Now.

916
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm very sensitive to civil liberties and civil rights, but

917
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, at what part you're both pastors.

918
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: You guys are preaching from the pulpit. I'm not preaching

919
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: from anywhere. Um, you guys tell me, you know, how

920
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: is it that these cities with the most violence and

921
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: the strictest gun laws and the most poverty had been

922
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: run by liberals for decades and decades. Why hasn't anybody

923
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: fixed it. What's going on inside the cities? Why do

924
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: they keep just electing the same people that never solved

925
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: the problems? And what about the family aspect of this?

926
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 1: You know what has happened here that what has happening

927
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: you know some of these cities that it's just a

928
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: total completes it like a seemingly a breakdown of our

929
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: American family in some places. Pastor Scott, all right, first

930
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: of all, let me say this, de roll fiddle while

931
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: Rome burned, and that's what the Democrats did on the

932
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 1: watch in these inner cities. The Democrats were getting rich.

933
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: You had guys going in on a civil service salary

934
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: that are coming out millionaires. They're getting rich at the

935
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: taxpayers and at the community's expense. But in revisiting what

936
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: you said about stopping fish on, let me tell you this.

937
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: I've been pulled over at times, even when they've had

938
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: sobriety checkpoints or whenever, and I've been pulled over. I

939
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: don't take offense to it. If I know that the

940
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: purpose of this pulling over is to make my city safer.

941
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: I'm not going to play the race. Car. Oh I'm

942
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Speaker 1: a black man. Are you pulling me? Over. If it

943
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: takes me getting pulled over and inconvenience for a few

944
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Speaker 1: minutes to ensure that another person lives in my community

945
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: is safer than I'm all for it. And so a

946
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Speaker 1: lot of people with this old they were pulled over

947
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: for stopping prison they were innocent, well done, and we're

948
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: glad they were innocent. We want them to be innocent,

949
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: but we want to catch the guilty as well. And

950
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: so these are things that our realities and the Democratic

951
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: Party once again, as I said, Nero fiddled while Rome Bird,

952
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: they were too busy playing party politics and getting fat

953
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: off of their communities and pimping out their communities. And

954
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: as a result, this is what we have. And now

955
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: they're speaking to put the blame because President Trump is

956
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: the president. They want to try to highlight these same

957
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: conditions that existed under Obama that they overlook after Adams pastors.

958
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: Just because Parister Scott is okay with being racially profiled,

959
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that the various majority of Americans and

960
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: African Americans are okay with racial profiling. Because most of

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00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: the people who are stopped and frisks are African American

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00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: and Latino white. Let me get a reaction from Passenger

963
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: Scott people that live in those communities. That's the community

964
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: that Let me ask you this, if stopping Prince had

965
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: saved that seventeen year old boy's life, would you'd have

966
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: been glad about that? Of course I would have been

967
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: glad at the seventeen years It was worth the seventeen

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00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 1: year old one boy lived, Prince. Then if a hundred

969
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Speaker 1: black people were pulled over but that one boy liab,

970
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: it would have been worth it. If a thousand black

971
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: people were pulled over and nine hundred and ninety nine

972
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: have them were innocent, and the one guilty person saved

973
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: that boy's life, it would have been worth it. It's

974
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: just speaking of the reality because I that we live in,

975
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: and reality of the communities that we live in as well.

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00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: Stop Prince said, if a nationwide DAN on assault rifles

977
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: would have stopped the shooting at Newtown, Connecticut, then you

978
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: would have been pleased with that as well. But the

979
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is, uh, we're speaking in hypotheticals.

980
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 1: But let me just say this, when we talk about

981
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: Democrats running American cities, let's look at the Republican record

982
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: running the national government. The economy failed on the rate.

983
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: They failed brush with the Father. The economy failed under

984
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: George Bush, the Sun. Excuse me if we're gonna get

985
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: into the if you want to talk about politics, I'll

986
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: give you the numbers you need to know. Under Barack

987
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: Obama and Joe Biden, we put an eight years, thirteen

988
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: million more Americans went on food stamps, eight million more

989
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: in poverty. We had the lowest labor participation rate since

990
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: the seventies, lowest home ownership rate in fifty one years,

991
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: worst recovery since the forties. He took on more debt

992
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: than all forty three presidents perform combined. Under Donald Trump,

993
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: he's less than three years in office. We now have

994
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: two and a half years, the best employment situation since

995
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine. Seven million new jobs created, seven million

996
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: fewer people on food stamps. We have millions of others

997
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: there's out of poverty, and we have the lowest record

998
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: setting unemployment demographically for African Americans, Asian Americans, Hispanic Americans,

999
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: women in the workforce and use unemployment. Now, Pastor Scott,

1000
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: you and I support the president, and I know Pastor

1001
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: Adams doesn't, but I would say that under democratic party rule,

1002
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: just like big cities in small towns, their policies don't work.

1003
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: Trump's policies are working. And that's the truth. The proof

1004
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: is in the putting. Trump's policies are working, and if

1005
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: and there working in spite of resistance, in spite of opposition,

1006
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: in spite of distractions, in spite of Congress, in spite

1007
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: of all of the forces that are aligned against them,

1008
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: because policies are still working. And what we need to

1009
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: do as well behind him and just give this man

1010
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: a chance to make things better. The final thirty seconds,

1011
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: pastor Adams, you get the last thirty seconds. I am

1012
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: a supporter of those policies that are helpful for all Americans.

1013
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: So whoever that is Donald Trump or Barack Obama or

1014
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: anybody else Elizabeth Mourn for that matter, I am for

1015
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: any American policies that are helping others. And the fact

1016
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: of the matter is when you put money in education,

1017
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: in the inner city, in the infrastructure, like when we

1018
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: reinvested in America under Barack Obama, you're going the worst

1019
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: results of any president in modern days. I'm gonna tell

1020
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: you something. We spend more money. We're number one in

1021
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: spending in terms of per capita per student in the

1022
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: industrialized world. But we're thirty seven in results. It's not

1023
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: the money, pastor, it's just on a holy alliance with teachers,

1024
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: unions and the Democratic Party that have allowed this institutionalized failure.

1025
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: We're failing our children. We're failing them. You know, Baltimore,

1026
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: thirteen schools, thirteen of them. Not a single kid, not

1027
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: one high schools proficient in math. That's inexcusable to me.

1028
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: Decades liberal you know, liberal rule in these cities, Liberal politicians.

1029
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: They haven't cared enough to fix it. Got to run

1030
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: a lot to get to here. Thank you both. Eight

1031
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: hundred and nine for one. Shaun is our number. Stay

1032
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: right here for our final news round up and information overload.

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Speaker 1: Who authorized granting Cheryl Mills immunity? I'm sorry, who authorized

1034
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: granting Cheryl Mills immunity. It's a decision made by the

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01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: Department Justice. I don't know at what level inside in

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01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: our investigations. If anything, any kind of immunity comes from

1037
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: the prosecutors, not the investigators. Okay, did she request immunity?

1038
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure what the negotiations involved. I

1039
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: believe her lawyer asked for Act of production immunity with

1040
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: respect to the production of her laptop. That's my understanding,

1041
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 1: But again, the FBI wasn't part of those conversations. Last week,

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Speaker 1: the American people learned that Cheryl Mills, Secretary Clinton's longtime

1043
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Speaker 1: confidant and former State Department Chief of Staff, and Heather Samuelson,

1044
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: counseled to Secretary Clinton in the State Department, were granted

1045
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: immunity for production of their laptops. Why were they not

1046
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: targets of the FBI's criminal investigation. Well, target is someone

1047
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: on whom you have sufficient evidence to indict a subject

1048
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: as someone who's conduct at some point during the investigation

1049
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: falls within the scope of the investigation. Certainly, with respect

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01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: to miss Mills, at least initially because she was an

1051
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: email correspondent, she was a subject of the investigation. Did

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Speaker 1: the FBI find classified information on either of their computers?

1053
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: I think there were some emails still on the computer

1054
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Speaker 1: that we're recovered that we're classified as my recollection. Isn't

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01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: that a crime? Is what a crimes are? Having classified

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01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: information on computers that are outside of the server system

1057
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: of the Department of State unsecured. No, it's certainly something

1058
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: without knowing more you couldn't conclude whether it was a crime.

1059
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: You'd have to know what were the circumstances, what was

1060
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: the intention around that? But it's certainly something. It's the

1061
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Speaker 1: reason we conducted a year long investigation understand where emails

1062
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Speaker 1: had gone on an unclassified system that contained classified information.

1063
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: And what did you determine with regard to the emails

1064
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: found on her computer? I hope I'm getting this right

1065
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: in My troops will correct me if I'm wrong, But

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Speaker 1: they were duplicates of emails that had been produced because

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Speaker 1: the emails had been used to sort before a production.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that charl Mills would have destroyed her laptop?

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Speaker 1: And if so, why this negotiation as opposed to just

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Speaker 1: asking for it by grand jury subpoena. Well, it's a

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Speaker 1: lawyer's laptop. So having done this for many, many years,

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Speaker 1: a grand jury subpoena for a lawyer's laptop would likely

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Speaker 1: entangle us in litigation over privilege for a very long time.

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Speaker 1: And so by June of this year, I wanted that laptop.

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Speaker 1: Our investigators wanted that laptop, and the best way to

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Speaker 1: get it was to a negotiation. Do you think any

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Speaker 1: laws were broken by Charl Mills, we have no evidence

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Speaker 1: to establish that she committed a crime. Do you think

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Speaker 1: that Secretary Clinton broke the laws related to classified data?

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Speaker 1: We have no evidence sufficient to justify conclusion that she

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Speaker 1: violated any of the statutes with respect to classified information.

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Speaker 1: Is there any distinction between that statement and saying that

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Speaker 1: no prosecutor would bring charges, which is I think what

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Speaker 1: you said in your public statements the data you made

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Speaker 1: your announcement. Well, I think it's another way of looking

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Speaker 1: at it. I think, given the evidence in this case,

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Speaker 1: I still think that no reasonable prosecutor would try to

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Speaker 1: bring this case or bring this case. So why did

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Speaker 1: you allow RYL. Mills s Terry Clinton's chief of staff

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Speaker 1: to sit in on that interview? She was potentially a

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Speaker 1: subject or target in the investigation. She was a government employee,

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Speaker 1: She wasn't Clinton's attorney. But yes, she sits in there

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Speaker 1: and talks with her throughout the interview. Yeah, my understanding

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Speaker 1: was at that time she was one of Clinton's attorneys.

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Speaker 1: She would no longer a subject in our investigation. The

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Speaker 1: agents had scrubbed her conduct very carefully by that point,

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Speaker 1: and she was no longer a subject. But that again,

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Speaker 1: that's a reasonable question. But the facts are not a

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Speaker 1: subject one of Clinton's lawyer. She's entitled to be in

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Speaker 1: an interview, all right, now, that is an incredible exchange, right,

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Speaker 1: James Colemy. By the way, News round up information overload

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Speaker 1: our Sean Hannity Show. Why did the Justice Department give

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Speaker 1: Cheryl Mills immunity and not the FBI? That's an important question.

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Speaker 1: Why was Cheryl Mills and one other person involved in

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Speaker 1: the Hillary Clinton email case when Hillary was finally interviewed

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Speaker 1: supposed to be interrogated. I've never heard of a single

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Speaker 1: case where you get to bring people involved in the

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Speaker 1: case that have immunity in the case in the room

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Speaker 1: while you're being interrogated on questions of whether or not

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Speaker 1: you broke the law. And then Comey testifying Bob Goodlat

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Speaker 1: that there was classified information on Cheryl mills computer but

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Speaker 1: says she didn't commit a crime. That is a crime

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Speaker 1: at it the US look eighteen USC. Seven ninety three

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Speaker 1: Espionage Act. We put it up on the screen on

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Speaker 1: TV many times when we've read it here many many times.

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Speaker 1: And then Comey testifying that there is not sufficient evid

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Speaker 1: is that Mills or Hillary Clinton broke laws. No, that's

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Speaker 1: not true. Mills allowed to sit in with Hillary during

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Speaker 1: an FBI interview because she's one of Hillary's attorneys. She's

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Speaker 1: involved in the case. That is a must recusal situation. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we're Higgins is with us to shed light on it.

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Speaker 1: And it also raises other questions about, you know, he

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Speaker 1: has information. You know, why are we getting conflicting or

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Speaker 1: reports about how many times Bill Clinton was on the

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Speaker 1: Lolita Express of Jeffrey Epstein and conflicting reports? Was he

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Speaker 1: or wasn't he ever at you know, this Org Island

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Speaker 1: place of his. He's formerly with the NSC and Department

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Speaker 1: of Defense. Senior fellow at Unconstrained Analytics. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the program. Did you ever hear of circumstances like this

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Speaker 1: where somebody can have classified emails on their computer, somebody

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Speaker 1: gets immunity from the Department of Justice, not the FBI.

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Speaker 1: How does that happen? I'm still shocked, Sean. I was

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Speaker 1: up there with you on July fIF to twenty sixteen

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Speaker 1: Women's decision first came down and Coolies infamous press conference.

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Speaker 1: It's still just you know, every single veteran, everybody who's

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Speaker 1: ever had as security clearance is just the fuddled by

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. It's unbelievable. Well, I mean, but when

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Speaker 1: you add that to what we just reported with John Solomon,

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Speaker 1: and that, in fact, there was this whole treasure trove

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Speaker 1: of information that the FBI knew about as it relates

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Speaker 1: to Hillary's email server, that they never bothered to give investigators.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how you're rigging investigation more

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Speaker 1: than they rigged hers. I just you know. And for

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Speaker 1: me it was Hannay, well, why are you harping on Clinton?

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Speaker 1: She lost? Well, I'm harping on it because the media

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01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: only seems to care if Donald Trump is involved with

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Speaker 1: anything Russia. But they ignored the Russian dirty dossier that

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Speaker 1: was used to spy on a candidate, and they knew

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Speaker 1: it was, they never corroborated it. It's an unverifiable document

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Speaker 1: of Russian lies, or, as The New York Times says,

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Speaker 1: it was knowingly it was likely from the beginning, Russian

1152
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: disinformation from the get go, and then it's used this

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01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 1: buy on a president a transition team, and then to

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Speaker 1: undo a presidential election after they couldn't beat them with

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Speaker 1: cheating like this. So it matters, Sean, what people are

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Speaker 1: going to hear soon and it's it's coming up. And

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Speaker 1: Congressman Golmert has been working, as you know, the intelligence community,

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Speaker 1: and I G identified several years ago that the Hillary's

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Speaker 1: emails were being dropped basically BC seed. Everything was going

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Speaker 1: to a company the name people will begin to hear

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Speaker 1: a student is called Carter Heavy Industries. And then the

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Speaker 1: back end of Carter Heavy Industries, and where all that

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Speaker 1: leads to is going to be the next big saga

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Speaker 1: in this entire email drama. Now backing it up to

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Speaker 1: the Cheryl Mills thing that we we started the conversation

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Speaker 1: with is really important. Everybody remember Cheryl Mills, you know

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Speaker 1: from back in twenty fifteen. She appears in Epstein's Little

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Speaker 1: back Book. Her personal phone numbers in there, her personal

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Speaker 1: emails in there. Oh well say this again in Hillary's

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Speaker 1: Little Black Book or Cheryl Mill's a Little Black Book.

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Speaker 1: Cheryl Mills appears in Jeffrey Epstein's Little Black Book going

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Speaker 1: back to wed going back to two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: It was leaked in twenty fifteen. It was originally discussed

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Speaker 1: back in twenty fifteen, and then kind of shuffles off

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Speaker 1: when you too, remember Cheryl Mills is not a bit

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Speaker 1: player here. She was the Deputy General Counsel of the

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Speaker 1: White House until nineteen ninety nine under Bill Clinton. She

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Speaker 1: was later staff to Hillary at State Department, later a

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Speaker 1: lawyer to Hillary, and then became on the board of

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Speaker 1: directors for the Clinton Foundation. So when she was granted

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Speaker 1: immunity during those midyear exam interviews, exactly what was she

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Speaker 1: given immunity for? Right? All right, Let's go back to

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Speaker 1: the Daily Caller, because they do really good work. Let's

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Speaker 1: let's stick with them now. If Mills is the trusted

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Speaker 1: aid who reviewed the email to decide which emails to erase, Right,

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Speaker 1: didn't Hillary claim her lawyers went over and one by one.

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Speaker 1: But then later we found out they didn't go over

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Speaker 1: and one by one. So that's a lie two right, right?

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Speaker 1: All right? And then she is with Hillary at the

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Speaker 1: interrogation of Hillary, and meanwhile she's involved in the case.

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Speaker 1: Do you see an ethics problem there? There's a giant Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a lawyer. There's a giant ethics problem. There's

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Speaker 1: an optics problem there, you know. And the question again,

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Speaker 1: it goes back to immunity from what and now now

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Speaker 1: the question I find myself asking is how you know,

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Speaker 1: did the FBI, Did the FBI and the Justice Department

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Speaker 1: get itself in too heavy with the Clinton you know,

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Speaker 1: let's let's make into something. Let's say there was some

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Speaker 1: corruption going on, you know, at the point they at

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Speaker 1: the point the Justice Department of the FBI itself become corrupted.

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Speaker 1: And you know, and I think you know, the general

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Speaker 1: public right now, as in the people I talked to,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the people you're talking we've we've kind of

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Speaker 1: lost faith, We've lost confidence in our FBI. I don't

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Speaker 1: see anybody right now moving to address that. And a

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Speaker 1: lot of it goes back to these core issues that's

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Speaker 1: still to this day surround the Hillary Clinton Cheryl Mills

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Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation. And now we've got this Epstein thing that's

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Speaker 1: been brought in on the side. It's truly just surreal.

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Speaker 1: It is. It is a Rico like environment. So do

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Speaker 1: we ever able to determine because we had the Clinton's

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Speaker 1: put out a report that Bill Clinton only flew with

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Speaker 1: him a few times, but then it turns out to

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Speaker 1: be a lot more times and then denies being on

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Speaker 1: Norgy Island. Have we been able to corroborate yes or no?

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Speaker 1: If that happened. I don't know, Sean. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: thought it was very strange that it wasn't until you know,

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Speaker 1: we found out Epstein at you know, committed suicide or

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Speaker 1: was dead, that we finally saw FBI investigators at the island.

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Speaker 1: That was that was strange. Just the entire sequencing of

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Speaker 1: events there was off to me. You know, I agree,

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Speaker 1: you know, you look at the FBI, I mean, they

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Speaker 1: have no credibility right now with at least half of

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Speaker 1: the American public. We see they're using Epstein as a

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Speaker 1: confidential informant. I mean, one of the most interesting things

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Speaker 1: out of Epstein's two thousand and eight plea agreement, you know,

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Speaker 1: where he admits that the pedophile he does his light

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Speaker 1: prison sentence. One of the one of the contingencies in

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Speaker 1: that was he has to continue to inform to the FBI.

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Speaker 1: Right And so you know, we see that, we see

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Speaker 1: the FBI using foreign intelligence services to target America and

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Speaker 1: American political candidates. And then yesterday we have Patrick Byrne

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Speaker 1: pop up. And I don't believe Patrick Byrne is lying

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Speaker 1: simply because Burn's story explains why the Justice Department in

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Speaker 1: Mueller wanted Maria Bettina in solitary confund They didn't want

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Speaker 1: her affiliation back to burn and you know how she

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Speaker 1: was being manipulated by the SBI. They didn't want that

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Speaker 1: getting out. You know, I find this whole thing because

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Speaker 1: we're now going back to the point where Palm Beach

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Speaker 1: police did this. This is when he got his sweetheart deal.

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Speaker 1: Do we ever know what actually happened to that well

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Speaker 1: little black book of his or when they seize the

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Speaker 1: address book of him? Do we know if that's still

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Speaker 1: in existence? It still in exists, that there's if your

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Speaker 1: audience wants that, they can google it, and there are

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Speaker 1: a couple of places that have a redacted version of it.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen, Nora. Do I know if anybody's doing

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Speaker 1: a complete link analysis with all the various names and

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Speaker 1: people that are identified inside of there. It really is.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a It's a vital piece of information

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01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: and how that link analysis and those social networks interplay

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01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: with what we saw with crossfire, hurricane and midyear example,

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Speaker 1: in the event surrounding the two sixteen elections, all the

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Speaker 1: way up to the present day. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: key you know, it's a key piece of information and

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Speaker 1: understanding all of these events. All right, quick break, We'll

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Speaker 1: come back Rich Higgins, formerly of the NSC DoD as

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Speaker 1: we continue on the other side. Also, your calls coming

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Speaker 1: up eight hundred nine for one Shaan Tolfrey telephone number.

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Speaker 1: All right, as we continue with Rich Higgins, former NSC

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Speaker 1: DoD is, we have a lot of stuff to talk

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Speaker 1: about today. You know, I'm looking at all these people

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Speaker 1: and I'm wondering, well, why would Bill Gates ever get

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Speaker 1: on Epstein's plane? And I'm thinking, doesn't he have enough

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Speaker 1: money for his own plane? Why would the New York

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Speaker 1: Times seek a thirty thousand dollar donation from Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 1: knowing who Jeffrey Epstein is one of the their employees causes?

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Speaker 1: Why would they you know, why is he so connected

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Speaker 1: to the Hollywood crowd? Who are the people? How do

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Speaker 1: we ever determine it was really ever there, either on

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Speaker 1: the plane or on the island. I think we have

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Speaker 1: to I think we have to trust Alex Acosta, right,

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Speaker 1: the recently resigned secretary. I mean he said Epstein belongs

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Speaker 1: to intelligence, and you know that is your investigative lead,

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Speaker 1: and you go from there and you know and hopefully um,

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Speaker 1: you know us Attorney Durham an Attorney General bar are

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Speaker 1: going to run down these rabbit trails and and get it,

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01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, get us past the you know, the runout

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Speaker 1: the clock approach that the establishment has been taken on

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Speaker 1: the entire investigation thus far. You know, while Mueller acted

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Speaker 1: as a rear guard action on a lot of the

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Speaker 1: corruption that was happening, you know, now we see there

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Speaker 1: and kind of run out the clock mode hoping that

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Speaker 1: they can you know, take down the president twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: and bury all this stuff. So I hope that you know,

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Speaker 1: we need to we need to press and to get

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Speaker 1: you to get some indictments rolling out here, hopefully soon. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, it's been a long time. You know. One

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Speaker 1: of the things you had said way way back in

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Speaker 1: the past, and I just want to remind people. Moving

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Speaker 1: on just to a little different subject is your work

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Speaker 1: with the NSA DoD And you know, everybody's kind of

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01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: concerned now about privacy security. You don't think Americans have

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01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 1: very much privacy at all in terms of emails, telephone calls,

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Speaker 1: text messages, do you. I think you know, and it's

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Speaker 1: I'm not revealing anything that's classified. I think we need

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Speaker 1: to understand that the global information environment is a living,

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Speaker 1: breathing thing. And you know, our old understanding of communication

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01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: needs to just be jettisoned, and we need we need

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01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 1: to understand how the ones and the zeros move around

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Speaker 1: in this space. And well, you know, I don't think

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Speaker 1: are you know, we've had such an advancement in the

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01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: past twenty years in terms of our technology, whether you're

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01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: talking about travel or social media, or email or cellular

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01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: communications and so on and so forth. I don't think

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Speaker 1: our laws are our privacy laws are understanding of your

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01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 1: free speech, et cetera. I don't think our laws have

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Speaker 1: kept pace with this emergent technical you know, this technical evolution.

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Speaker 1: So we need, we need to be mindful of that

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Speaker 1: and very very cautious of it. The thing that really

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Speaker 1: makes me concerned is we've seen we seem to have

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Speaker 1: lost our moral bearing. And you know when you see

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Speaker 1: it with some of the stuff that's coming out of

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Speaker 1: Silicone Valley right now, where well you know they're they're

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01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: in league with China, right, I mean, well, I mean

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01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 1: look at Hillary. I mean Peter Struck was told that

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Speaker 1: the Chinese were hacking that he didn't care. Um, then

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01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: you've got the issue of was there outsourcing of spying

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01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: on Americans to circumvent laws to spy and a presidential

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Speaker 1: candidate and a president It appears like the answers yes. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot. I appreciate Rich. Good to have you

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Speaker 1: back again. It's been a long time. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: being with us. All right, let's get to our busy phones.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred nine for one, Shawn our number, annas in

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Speaker 1: Utah and Hi, how are you glad you called? Hi, Sulan,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me on the air. Um, I want

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Speaker 1: you to call after the comments that the president need

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01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: and resultso brought up in your show about you know

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Speaker 1: any how can I do vote for a Democrat? And

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Speaker 1: the reason I want to call is my entire life

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01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: until the last election, I vote a Democratic. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I voted twice for Barack Obama. I donate money to him,

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Speaker 1: I talked people into voting for him. I was given

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Speaker 1: a ticket to his inauguration by Nancy Pelosi and was

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Speaker 1: very excited for the first time. I liked to go

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Speaker 1: to Washington for an inauguration and be part of that. Yeah,

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01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff changed. First of all, I will

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Speaker 1: say that I think I never was a big thinker

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Speaker 1: about politics. And I was a religious Jew, but close

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01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: to my mother and wanted to honor my mother. And

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01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: my mother and father were children of immigrants, lower middle class,

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01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: and they always voted Democratic. And because I didn't want

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01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 1: to think about politics, I voted the way my mother

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01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 1: did and never really thought about it. And I think

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01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and nine, I was doing a

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Speaker 1: lot of international business. I wasn't caught, you know, working

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01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: closely with very bright people. Somebody got me to read

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Speaker 1: more about the news and note what was gone in

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Speaker 1: the world. So in two thousand and nine I started

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01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: reading and reading and I wasn't watching any news, and

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01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 1: I was in Europe a lot. So I was in Europe,

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01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: was literally on May twenty second for the Procurement Leader's Award,

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01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 1: getting it. My nails manicured when that that soldier was

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01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: hacked in London. Lee rigged me literally blocks away from me,

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Speaker 1: and I was like shocked that that would happen in London.

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Speaker 1: And then I was in Germany in July twenty fourteen

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Speaker 1: when the stuff was going on in Goza, and I

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01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: was giving a talk in Rothstock, Germany, and I could

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01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: see how all the Europeans were becoming anti Israel from

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01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: getting scary. I don't have a lot of time, but

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you something. The rise of anti

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01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 1: Semitism is real. There's never been a president that has

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Speaker 1: done more for the state of Israel and advancing an

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Speaker 1: alliance that could eventually, I hope, lead to a real

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Speaker 1: piece in the Middle East than this president. And recognizing

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Speaker 1: the sovereignty of golon That was Donald Trump. Moving the

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Speaker 1: embassy to Jerusalem, that was Donald Trump. So many promised

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Speaker 1: then in the end never had the courage to do that,

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Speaker 1: which he finds easy to do keep his promises, and

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01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: to me it is crucial. And you know when everyone

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Speaker 1: talks about well foreign interference and elections, well there was

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Speaker 1: one administration, the Obama administration, that tried to unseat a

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Speaker 1: ally of ours and a sitting prime minister, Prime Minister

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01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 1: Benjamin and that and yahoo, thank goodness, thank god, they

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01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: weren't successful. Because he has been a you know, a

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Speaker 1: Churchillian figure and at times the lone voice of moral

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01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: clarity against radical Islamist and those that believe in a

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01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 1: caliphate of convert or die. And you know, we've got

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01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 1: to get people that understand the nature of evil in

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01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: our time, and Iran embodies all of that. Thank you, though,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate the call eight hundred nine for one, Shawn,

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Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program.

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01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: All right, that's going to wrap things up for today. Wow,

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01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: these weeks go by, Linda, they not fly by, go

1385
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: so fast, and we're so wrapped up in the middle

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01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 1: of it that you just don't even realize, Oh, it's

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01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: Friday again, and then you know it's Monday morning again.

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01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: But that's what we do. And we had a lot

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Speaker 1: of news this weekend. It's only going to get better.

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Speaker 1: All right, have a great weekend, and as always, you

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Speaker 1: make this microphone happen. The fall is going to be interesting.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. We'll see you back here on Monday.