WEBVTT - Fangirling with Adam Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys, here are my dates for the High and

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<v Speaker 1>Mighty Tour.

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<v Speaker 2>In August you can find me in Calgary, that's Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>And September I will be in Santa Barbara, San Diego,

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<v Speaker 2>New York City, Philly, and New Haven, Connecticut. October is Atlanta, Baltimore, Saginaw, Michigan, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Boise,

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<v Speaker 2>Idaho and Spokane. And then in November I'll be in

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco. I'm coming to Salt Lake City, Austin, Houston,

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<v Speaker 2>Dallas Babies, I'll be there. And then in December I

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<v Speaker 2>am closing out my tour in Denver and Vancouver. So

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<v Speaker 2>get your tickets at Chelseahandler dot com for the High

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<v Speaker 2>and Mighty Tour.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Catherine, Hi, Chelsea. Not just in New York City.

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a WorldWind to Catherine, it was a family whirlwind.

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<v Speaker 2>I have two nieces, new nieces. Yes, they saw you

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<v Speaker 2>with Armable and I met them for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>My brother has been married for a few years, but

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<v Speaker 2>I never met them and because they were living elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>And so they're sort of immigration nightmares situation, right, So

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<v Speaker 4>that done, Yes, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's great and they were lovely and so sweet. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so nice to see my brother married with children.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so sweet. He found his he found the lid

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<v Speaker 2>to his podcaster.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that sweet?

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember we did a minnesode with him, or we

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<v Speaker 4>did an episode with him way back in the day,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think he had just started dating.

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<v Speaker 1>Her maybe or it was early day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They told me some funny stories.

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<v Speaker 2>And my sister lives right by them, so she's really

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<v Speaker 2>helping out and that's really cute, and I like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's just one big happy family.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh over at the Handler Household, did you.

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<v Speaker 4>See, speaking of New York City, did you see this

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<v Speaker 4>thing that mom Donnie did to like help people meet

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<v Speaker 4>their love?

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<v Speaker 1>No, what did he do?

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<v Speaker 4>So someone posted like, you know, Mom Donnie's doing all

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<v Speaker 4>this cool stuff like oh, mom Donny, help with this

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<v Speaker 4>and this and this, and this guy posted like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be having a date with the love of

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<v Speaker 4>my life here at this library DA in Brooklyn. And

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<v Speaker 4>so Mom Donnie not only responded to it, he like

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<v Speaker 4>reposted it and he's like scheduled little cute events.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really cute.

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<v Speaker 2>He must have picked that up from my matchmaking online.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he's always copying me, mom. Donnie's doing good things

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<v Speaker 2>in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually really exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I did the Pivot podcast with Kars Swisher this

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<v Speaker 2>week that I think airs tomorrow, and she does this

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<v Speaker 2>thing at the end called predictions, and I predicted that Abdul.

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<v Speaker 1>Al say Yeah, will win Michigan. That's my prediction. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my political prediction.

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<v Speaker 2>And my also political prediction is that Mitch McConnell is dead.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like the news that we got about.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how this will be received, but it

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<v Speaker 2>really gives a shit. Brad Bitt is back on the

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<v Speaker 2>sauce I love. I mean, honestly, if you quit drinking

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<v Speaker 2>to get your family back and they don't come back,

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<v Speaker 2>then why are you quitting drinks and they remove your

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<v Speaker 2>Seven years is the period of time that we've spoken

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<v Speaker 2>about at length that has time to a new phase.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I get one more thing on my fucking

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<v Speaker 2>algorithm about this fucking lunar eclipse and this what the

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<v Speaker 2>next twelve years of hell are going to be like?

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<v Speaker 2>And PISCESI, my algorithm is like you're walking into a

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<v Speaker 2>fire pit of hell, it's actually saying you're walking away

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<v Speaker 2>from it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just so annoying all day long, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I, I can't hear anything more about these eclipses.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, it's just too much. I can't hear about

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<v Speaker 1>bad news and bad things coming like.

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<v Speaker 2>Just shifting and all these tarot card readers. How did

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<v Speaker 2>these even start coming up on my algorithm?

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<v Speaker 1>I it's a witch job. It's Nominika because she's all

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<v Speaker 1>about it, you know?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Also?

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, if you haven't listened to what You're

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<v Speaker 2>the Problem with Yaminika, that's our latest That's our latest offering.

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<v Speaker 2>Here at the Dear Chelsea Network, we have a new

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<v Speaker 2>podcast called You're the Problem with You Dominika, So please

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<v Speaker 2>support her and listen and download and subscribe.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's so funny and she's so fun she is.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's such a fun podcast. I've actually really enjoying it,

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<v Speaker 2>even though I have to listen to it. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>your job, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Tang Okay, screw Charlow. Yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We are introducing a very special guy. You know him

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<v Speaker 2>from Severance Parks and rec Party Down and more. And

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<v Speaker 2>his new movie is The whisper Man, which is out

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<v Speaker 2>on Netflix now, which is fucking awesome and has my

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<v Speaker 2>other boyfriend in it, Robert de Niro.

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<v Speaker 1>Please welcome Adam Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>We good to go, Brad, because I'm ready to rumble

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<v Speaker 2>and Adam's ready to rumble.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this uh appropriate spot for it? Is this appropriate?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not appropriate? Actually, we need you to take your

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<v Speaker 1>hands off of them.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Okay, we live in a very sense we're

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<v Speaker 2>living during a very sensitive We're actually we're living in

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<v Speaker 2>a very desensitized time.

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<v Speaker 1>We went from very sensitive to desensitized.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, everything, Sure is it? Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Is your hair as usual? Looks magnificent? Do Are you

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<v Speaker 2>happy with it?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fine with it. I just was as long as

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<v Speaker 3>you're fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I just had the pleasure of watching him get his

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<v Speaker 2>hair quaffed in my kitchen, so I liked that.

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<v Speaker 4>And our situation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just impressive to see ahead of hair like this.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you talk about your hair a lot. If

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<v Speaker 2>people ask you about your.

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<v Speaker 3>Hair a lot, ask me about my hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get some conscious about it?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? I'm just grateful at this age that I

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<v Speaker 3>have hair. So I'm fine with it. Because if I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking about my hair, I don't have to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>something else.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the fact that you look so much like Tom Cruise.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>How does that make you feel that.

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<v Speaker 3>I look like Tom Cruise?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think? Do you I'm sorry I started the

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<v Speaker 3>sentence first.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I started this interview.

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<v Speaker 3>I look like Tom Cruise? Yes you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>And do you?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's a huge compliment. First of all, I

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<v Speaker 3>understand why people have said it, But people used to

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<v Speaker 3>say it all the time, like a long time ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and then it sort of stopped. So I wonder if

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<v Speaker 3>there's an era of Tom Cruise where we kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like matched up for a couple of years and that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know culturally why it happened

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<v Speaker 3>at a particular time, but I would take it as

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<v Speaker 3>a huge compliment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you think that you and Tom Cruise have

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<v Speaker 2>similar running styles?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? I would hope so, because he's like the best

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<v Speaker 3>cinematic runner of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Is that what he's known for his run? He's

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<v Speaker 2>known for his stunts, right, which include running.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, But he's also known for like if you seem

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<v Speaker 3>born on the fourth of July, I remember that movie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Like he's known for his performances as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, right, right, right, of course, he's known for

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<v Speaker 2>his actor. He's a good he's a good actor. The

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<v Speaker 2>thing about a plethora of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing about his running is that I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>I've ever dedicated as much of myself to anything as

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<v Speaker 3>he does to running. Like his running is like top notch,

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<v Speaker 3>like no one's ever. Don't you think if you his

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<v Speaker 3>running in Mission Impossible movies, he is putting absolutely everything

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<v Speaker 3>he has into those those runs.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he must he probably do you run on the

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<v Speaker 2>side in real life? No, you only run in severance.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, because that's pretty much the only time I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen you run. Oh, in your new movie The whisper Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You run also, Yes, that's but that's different because.

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<v Speaker 2>In severance it's really like, it's very it's always in

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<v Speaker 2>the same space.

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<v Speaker 1>You're always in a hallway, right, And.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot of it Like we it's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we spend a lot of time shooting those sequences. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's and I don't like train for it or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>which I probably should.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I feel like Tom Cruise is training.

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<v Speaker 2>He's probably got a running coach and a running style

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<v Speaker 2>coach to run so he doesn't look like an asshole

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't look like an assole when you run.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like you were kind of saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was going to sound like that as well,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why I followed it up with you saying

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<v Speaker 2>that you're not bad at.

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<v Speaker 3>Running, didn't look like an asshole. Well, I think that

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<v Speaker 3>like his running. If he did the running that I do,

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<v Speaker 3>he could do it and then work a full day

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<v Speaker 3>after no problem, whereas I'm like depleted and the like

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<v Speaker 3>bananas and gatorade after I do it right right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first of all, I want to congratulate you on

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<v Speaker 1>your body of work, Adam.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a huge it's a really impressive body of work,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have a new movie, The whisper Man, which

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<v Speaker 2>has also I want to talk about all the people

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<v Speaker 2>that you've been working with lately, because it's a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>impressive roster. Thanks on severance, you get to work with

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<v Speaker 2>Turturo and these are people I'm talking about only the

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<v Speaker 2>people that have been legends for a long time, never

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<v Speaker 2>mind all of the other people. We get to see

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<v Speaker 2>you interact with, John Jachur, Christopher Walkins, in there, Patricia Arcata,

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<v Speaker 2>all legendary people. And in this movie you get to

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<v Speaker 2>work with de Niro, And I know you've been around

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<v Speaker 2>the block and you've worked with lots of cool people.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it like being on a regular set? And

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<v Speaker 2>that is, you know, where you're the main character of

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<v Speaker 2>a show and these people are supporting that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's not something I get used to, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think that I think it's different. Like my kids

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<v Speaker 3>have grown up now in Los Angeles and grown up

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<v Speaker 3>around show business. So to them, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>big of a deal something like that is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>growing up adjacent to and all their front some of

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<v Speaker 3>their friends' parents are in show business stuff. For me,

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<v Speaker 3>I grew up in northern California in a small town

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<v Speaker 3>where I mean it may as well have been in

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<v Speaker 3>Milwaukee or something like. It was so so disconnected from

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<v Speaker 3>show business that like, I kept my ambition to be

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<v Speaker 3>an actor a secret till I was like seventeen years

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<v Speaker 3>old because it was so embarrassing that I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like it sounds sounded ridiculous, but it's all

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<v Speaker 3>I thought about. All I cared about, or like movies

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<v Speaker 3>and movie stars and television and stuff. So someone like

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<v Speaker 3>Robert de Niro and getting to be in this movie

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<v Speaker 3>with him was so crazy because he's so fundamental to

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<v Speaker 3>the reasons that I wanted to do this in the

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<v Speaker 3>first place. So I guess the incredibly long answer to

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<v Speaker 3>your simple question is it's still kind of blowing my

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<v Speaker 3>mind and to Turo and Patricia and Christopher Walking. It's

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<v Speaker 3>still wild to me and I'm not I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>I'll ever get used to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't you think at this point in your career

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<v Speaker 2>you're more prepared for it than ever, like if it

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<v Speaker 2>had happened earlier in your career. Do you think, first

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<v Speaker 2>of all, I don't want you to get pigeonholed because

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<v Speaker 2>you're playing widow. In Severance, you're a widow, and in

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<v Speaker 2>The Whispering Man, you're a widow. So we have to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that this doesn't become.

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<v Speaker 1>A Recurrenon stops here, it stops stop, it stops here, Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>So you play a widow in both of these movies,

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<v Speaker 2>and this movie with De Niro's it's a fucking awesome thriller.

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<v Speaker 2>You move back to the town where your wife is from,

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<v Speaker 2>and De Niro is playing your father. Yeah, and there

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot I think there's a lot of For

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<v Speaker 2>me as a viewer, there are a lot of similarities

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<v Speaker 2>in your ability. I guess it's your emotional availability that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm impressed by as an watching you, because you are

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<v Speaker 2>really like, I know, the opening scene, which is very

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<v Speaker 2>hard to get out of your mind from Severance, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're sitting in that car and you're hysterically crying,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you walk in and you see something shift,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is also like, you know, I was just

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<v Speaker 2>telling him how you feel when you watch it, Like

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as you go up in that elevator, there's

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<v Speaker 2>something that shifts from the viewer. So what you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>is super compelling to even have that impact. And obviously

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<v Speaker 2>the direction and everything involved in that really like lends

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<v Speaker 2>itself to transporting you to a different place. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was telling you it took me a while to get

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<v Speaker 2>into Severance because it is such a different frequency that

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<v Speaker 2>you're in.

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<v Speaker 1>When you watch that show.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm very curious to see, like to hear about

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<v Speaker 2>how you handle that like emotional kind of changing your

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<v Speaker 2>presence in the scene because of what you're playing, the

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<v Speaker 2>character you're playing like how does one tap into that,

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<v Speaker 2>Like how do you do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Like going from one to the other eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's a different look in your eye, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a different way that you're walking. Yeah slightly. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>all intentional?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it was. It was. It took a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of kind of trial and error, because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when we were starting, the scripts were great and it

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<v Speaker 3>was this whole different world and everything, but then you're

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<v Speaker 3>there and we're kind of starting from scratch, and Ben

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<v Speaker 3>was really kind of guiding us to find this world

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<v Speaker 3>and find the particular tone of this world. And it

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot of like experimenting and trying different stuff

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<v Speaker 3>to see what would work. And when it came to

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<v Speaker 3>my character, when we were kind of zeroing in on

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<v Speaker 3>it was important because it's not like two characters. It

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<v Speaker 3>sort of is, but it is the same person. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just two different sections of the same person. So it

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<v Speaker 3>had to feel like the same guy, but just like

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<v Speaker 3>different versions. So for me, the biggest difference ended up

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<v Speaker 3>being just like life experience. And so you go down

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<v Speaker 3>in the elevator and it was almost like just scooping

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<v Speaker 3>out life experience because one of them is forty some

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<v Speaker 3>one years old and the other ones like for all

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<v Speaker 3>intents and purposes, like two and a half years old,

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<v Speaker 3>you have a certain your you know, the seventh procedure

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<v Speaker 3>leaves you with certain abilities and awareness about certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>But understand that you're thirsty or that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>go get a.

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<v Speaker 3>T yeah you know how to like, yeah, get yourself

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<v Speaker 3>food or satiate or whatever. But they've never experienced sleep,

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<v Speaker 3>they've never experienced you know, the sky or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's a bunch of and your life experience is scooped out.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was kind of like a math problem and

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<v Speaker 3>going from one to the other, and the elevator ended

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<v Speaker 3>up being like you said, like there's something just behind

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<v Speaker 3>the eyes that shifts because it's just a completely different

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<v Speaker 3>life experience, a completely different kind of realm of awareness.

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<v Speaker 3>And I sort of just to try and always trying

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of, you know, you try and make something personal,

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<v Speaker 3>and so kind of a starting point for me was

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<v Speaker 3>when we were starting out, I was just like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe the inny is everything I like about myself, Like

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes I can be charming or personable or optimistic, like

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm in the right situation, and I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>can reflect back on how I behaved. I can sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>feel that way, and then the audi could be everything

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<v Speaker 3>I have disdain for about myself, a bad posture, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a pessimist, anti social, you know, all those things

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<v Speaker 3>that you are constantly pushing up against, and that character,

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<v Speaker 3>that side of the character has sort of indul himself

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<v Speaker 3>in all of the things that have kind of kept

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<v Speaker 3>him from moving on from this horrible period.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I heard you on Amy Poehler's podcast Could Hang,

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<v Speaker 2>where you were talking about the beginning stage, like just

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<v Speaker 2>all of the different things that you've worked on, all

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<v Speaker 2>the big hits you've had, and you were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>losing out that role to Michael C.

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<v Speaker 1>Hall in Six Feet Under.

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<v Speaker 2>It was between him and Michael Sea Hall, which I

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<v Speaker 2>thought was a fascinating story, great tidbit, and then watching

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<v Speaker 2>Michael C. Hall have all that success with six Feet Under. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you guys were talking about one of the times

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<v Speaker 2>you got really close to something big and that you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't make that and that you couldn't imagine ever being

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<v Speaker 2>in that after seeing Michael C.

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<v Speaker 1>Hall in it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would say the same thing to you about severance,

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<v Speaker 2>like no one could play that role but you And

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<v Speaker 2>what you're saying about this lends itself to supporting all

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<v Speaker 2>of that, because this is it's like I wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 2>imagine reading that script and understanding what was happening. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't you have to have a lot of conversations about

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<v Speaker 2>it or did you not?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when I first heard the idea, it was way

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<v Speaker 3>before there was even a script around. Ben just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of told me the idea about like you go to

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<v Speaker 3>work and you don't know who you are in the

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<v Speaker 3>outside world. You only know what's there, and then when

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<v Speaker 3>you leave work, you have no idea what you did

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<v Speaker 3>at work. And I just thought that was such a

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<v Speaker 3>cool idea. So I couldn't get that. It sounded like

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<v Speaker 3>like a really good Twilight Zone episode or something, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, as we kind of dove in and got

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<v Speaker 3>more and more detail about not only the circumstances of

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<v Speaker 3>the procedure, but the company and the lore and all

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<v Speaker 3>of that stuff, Yes, it was constant questions. And Dan Erickson,

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<v Speaker 3>who created the show, was around and he could sort

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<v Speaker 3>of explain things, and he has an answer for everything,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's kind of thought everything through. So yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot of it's dense. It's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>information and everything that you see and hear on that

0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.200
<v Speaker 3>show is there for a reason and has a lot

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<v Speaker 3>has a story behind it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's pretty fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>It really makes you think, It really makes you focus,

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<v Speaker 2>and it really makes you think. We were saying that

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<v Speaker 2>these are one of the shows that you have to watch,

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<v Speaker 2>and your phone really has to be away.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't be diddling. You can't be.

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<v Speaker 2>Doling yourself, and you can't be duling your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so now let's shift to the whisperer man. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is a great story, And like, I love the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of being a single dad, not because your wife died,

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<v Speaker 1>but I love the I just like watching male characters.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's really nice to see a single father,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, someone who's like, it's their entire onus is

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<v Speaker 2>to provide for this kid and take care of them emotionally,

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<v Speaker 2>which your character really does, which I imagine you're a

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<v Speaker 2>lot like in real life. I mean, everyone has always

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<v Speaker 2>amazing things to say about you. I know you a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, and you are definitely one of the good guys.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the reputation you very very nice of you saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So you and your family should be proud of yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. But when you're dealing with that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>level of emotion, which you do in severance as well,

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<v Speaker 2>but especially in the Whisperman, and you're dealing with that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you tapping into?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the thing I thought was interesting about the

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<v Speaker 3>script and kind of James Ashcroft, who directed it's something

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<v Speaker 3>he was really interested in too, is that this is

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<v Speaker 3>a single dad who's kind of struggling. He wasn't the one,

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<v Speaker 3>His wife was really the one who did the lion's

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<v Speaker 3>share of parenting, and now here he is and he's

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<v Speaker 3>trying his best to connect with his son and provide

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<v Speaker 3>for his son, and he is he's having a hard time.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's doing it, but it is a struggle.

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<v Speaker 3>And in the midst of trying to do this right

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<v Speaker 3>and figure out how to do this, his son disappears.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought that was interesting that it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 3>some idyllic version of single parenthood. And then that you've

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<v Speaker 3>seen a lot I've seen a lot in movies where

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<v Speaker 3>everything's great and perfect, things couldn't be going better, and

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<v Speaker 3>then this tragedy strikes. Things are a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>struggle out of the gate, and so this horrible thing

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<v Speaker 3>that happens couldn't have come at a worse time. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>working with MJ, with this kid who this wonderful actor

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<v Speaker 3>who played my son was really wonderful, and he was

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<v Speaker 3>so available and being a parent, you know, especially working

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<v Speaker 3>with someone who's ten years old. I believe he was

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<v Speaker 3>ten years old when we made the movie. I miss

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<v Speaker 3>that age so much. With my kids. They're nineteen and

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen now, so they're essentially adults. So working with him

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<v Speaker 3>and remembering what it was like to have, you know,

0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:06.639
<v Speaker 3>ten year old and eight year old or whatever was

0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:10.600
<v Speaker 3>really really it was easy to kind of tap into

0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:15.600
<v Speaker 3>that and feel those kind of feelings and that anxiety

0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:21.159
<v Speaker 3>and the constant worry you have for this kid. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean that never goes away, but at that age it's

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<v Speaker 3>a particularly tender, tender time.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't go away. No, you're always worried for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Every time my kids leave the house,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, oh my god, it's embarrassing because it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>be careful fucking driving, like Jesus Christ, don't like be late,

0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:50.040
<v Speaker 3>don't fucking drive sixty miles an hour down a neighbor

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.560
<v Speaker 3>like don't just slow down and be careful, don't look

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<v Speaker 3>at your phone, you know all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Do your kids respect you?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, no, that would be the worst thing

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<v Speaker 3>to have kids that don't respect you at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I did not respect my parents at all. As

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<v Speaker 2>soon as I met them, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, uh uh yeah, no thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>And the teenage years like I mean, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>I would never want to put I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>The karma that I'm due for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way I treated my parents would become full circle that

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, there's no way I can have children

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<v Speaker 2>because it will just be health.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. I was such an asshole. I remember

0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:35.440
<v Speaker 3>my mom would if I had like dirty dishes in

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<v Speaker 3>the sink, she would ask me over and over again,

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<v Speaker 3>do your dish, and I would just ignore it. She

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<v Speaker 3>would bring the dishes into my room and put them

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<v Speaker 3>on my bed and I would just take them put

0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.560
<v Speaker 3>them on the floor, and I wouldn't do it, Like

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<v Speaker 3>what an asshole?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that is an asshole. Brothers and sisters.

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<v Speaker 3>I had an older brother and sister. Yeah right, the youngest, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. They were the worst ones.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the youngest of my family as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how many brothers in society.

0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:04.359
<v Speaker 2>There's six of us all together, so I was number six.

0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:07.040
<v Speaker 2>So nobody was even trying to get me to do dishes.

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<v Speaker 2>They were just like, just shut the fuck up for

0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:11.959
<v Speaker 2>two seconds, please, you have like a free passay. They

0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:13.320
<v Speaker 2>were like, if you could just go in your room

0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.280
<v Speaker 2>and be quiet for an hour, we're fine.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do your dishes for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So how does your what tell me about parenting? I

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<v Speaker 2>want to know, like, what has surprised you? What has

0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 2>surprised you about your wife becoming a mother? I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a long time, or maybe what surprises you

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<v Speaker 2>about your wife being a mother that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't know about her before you had children? Anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that she she's incredible, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>it's a surprise necessarily that she was or is I'm

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:53.480
<v Speaker 3>thinking about the kids being really little right now. How

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 3>adept she was right out of the gate for uh

0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:03.480
<v Speaker 3>being a parent and was really the person I followed.

0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 3>I really kind of looked to her to figure out

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<v Speaker 3>how to do this. It's really hard. It's a lot

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 3>of really it's really complicated and hard, particularly as they

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<v Speaker 3>get older. But I always had her as a role

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<v Speaker 3>model for parenting.

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<v Speaker 1>Truly, she took the lead in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I guess it depends on what kind

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:33.119
<v Speaker 3>of aspect of it you're you're talking about, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I would always follow Naomi's lead. I think she is

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<v Speaker 3>an incredible parent, and any any we have incredible Our

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:47.679
<v Speaker 3>kids are incredible people, and like I said, they're like

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:51.480
<v Speaker 3>grown ups now, it's so crazy, and they are incredible people.

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:55.000
<v Speaker 3>And I entirely credit her with that. I'm lucky that

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:59.720
<v Speaker 3>I grew up with great parents as well, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>I'm consistently still just blown away by what an incredible,

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 3>incredible mother mother she has been.

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<v Speaker 2>And still do you think that's just being a female instinctually,

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 2>like having a maternal instinct, I.

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 3>Think that's part of it. But I think she's she

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:22.240
<v Speaker 3>has a real emotional availability and really really perceptive and

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:28.879
<v Speaker 3>intellectually she's brilliant, and I think that really comes in

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 3>handy too, like she's always five steps ahead of all

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:33.880
<v Speaker 3>three of us.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess the next question is does she respect you?

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 3>That's a great question which we're going to need to ask.

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 3>You got to get her in here to find out.

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:45.120
<v Speaker 1>How did you two meet.

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<v Speaker 3>We met at Kat in the Fiddle. Do you remember

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:47.920
<v Speaker 3>that bar? Oh?

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, yeah, I used to go there with

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:55.160
<v Speaker 2>all the comedians.

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 3>Totally after what club were, Well.

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.679
<v Speaker 2>There were all these like little clubs that weren't like

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:03.679
<v Speaker 2>the main clubs like Comedy Store and Improv that were

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 2>over on that side of town. There was like Mixed Nuts,

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 2>which was on Pico and Librea, but there was clubs

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 2>over there like yeah, I forget some of the names

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 2>of them, but there's always these small little rooms where

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:13.440
<v Speaker 2>you could go.

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's right, and then go east.

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Huh yeah, east into like yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we met there because everyone smoked back then, and

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 3>that was the best bar you could go in and

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 3>play darts being outside and smoke people.

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 1>People are smoking as back by the way are smoking.

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe, dude, It's everywhere. I know.

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I just don't understand. It's like what we've we've lost

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 2>all information.

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.160
<v Speaker 4>Because the kids love the nineties, I know.

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Is that what it is? Because well, here's the thing

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:43.239
<v Speaker 3>is that vaping obviously took hold for a while, but

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:47.119
<v Speaker 3>then everyone came down so hard on vaping right that

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 3>all these kids were addicted to nicotine. They're like Okay,

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 3>I guess we can't vape anymore, may as well just

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 3>go to the source, right, and it looks cooler, so

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 3>let's just start smoking. It's crazy, You're right, it's everywhere.

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:00.879
<v Speaker 3>Were you ever a smoker?

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, of course, I've done everything.

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, it was the best.

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:04.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't smoke anymore because I'm too old to smoke

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 2>like it's cool.

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 2>In Europe, once in a while i'll have a cigarette

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 2>because I don't believe you can get cancer there. And

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.439
<v Speaker 2>if I'm on vacation and other people are smoking or figure,

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, okay, but I never go. I don't smoke here.

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I would just I just find cigarettes to be gross

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 2>in the way that you should have I think probably

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 2>were similar ages. Okay, so back to how you met

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 2>your wife. Did you just throw in a piece of nicotine?

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Come while we're talking about nicotine by way, Okay, I

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 2>just wanted.

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 3>To still that I haven't smoked a cigarette, probably in

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 3>twelve years or something.

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:42.239
<v Speaker 1>And okay, so you were a smoker too, I sure was.

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 3>I loved it. Yeah, Oh my god. An actor in

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.160
<v Speaker 3>the nineties in Los Angeles.

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I see, yes, what else would you do if you run

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 2>your fingers through your hair and smoke a cigarette, and

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:56.159
<v Speaker 2>you'll liberate over how you're going to deliver a scene.

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 3>You should see my headshots from like nineteen ninety five.

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can only imagine.

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 3>And I auditioned for all the scream movies, and I

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 3>know what you did all that stuff. I was here

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 3>trying to, you know, get something. So it was that

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 3>whole skeet o rich in, that whole era. Yeah, of

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 3>like actors.

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we had Dave franco On recently, who was telling

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 2>us that you were together when you guys met the Pope.

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, isn't that crazy. Yeah, it's one of those

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 3>pope trips.

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 1>No, he hasn't requested me yet.

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:28.400
<v Speaker 3>You should meet the boat.

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Did you get requested?

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean I got invited. That's a that's a request.

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 2>I guess that's what Dave said too. He was like,

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't believe. We couldn't believe we were going to

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 2>meet him.

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 3>It was strange, but you know whatever. Interesting.

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm more interested though, in your wife and the cat

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 1>and the fiddle.

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 3>Cat and the fiddle. Okay, so we met at the

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 3>Cat and the Fiddle. I saw her from across the

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 3>bar that outside area. Remember that found I was like,

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 3>I want to meet her and my friend I was

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:59.359
<v Speaker 3>doing a play in the midst of doing a play

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.919
<v Speaker 3>and the friend was with in the play. He was like,

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 3>I know her friend and he was a brit and

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.360
<v Speaker 3>he walks over to his friend that they knew each

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 3>other from the UK, and she introduces me to Naomi

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 3>and Naomi said is like nice to meet you, and

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 3>then she's like, I have to go, and she just

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 3>left because she did not she heard I was an

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:28.679
<v Speaker 3>actor and immediately was like no way and just left.

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Smart Smart. But then I got my friend to talk

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 3>to his friend and get them to come to the

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 3>play we were in. It was down at the Taper downtown,

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 3>the Mark Tape or Form, and they came to that

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 3>play and it was on closing night, and afterwards there

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 3>was like a closing night party and that's where we

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:53.959
<v Speaker 3>started chatting. And we went to a an after party

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 3>at Amanda Donajo's house. Do you remember that actor Amanda.

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 3>We'd recognize her and I don't know how it ended

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 3>up at her house because she was not in the play,

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 3>but we were in the backyard and there was a

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Golden Retriever and just the three of us sat there

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 3>for like three hours just talking. The dog did not talk,

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 3>but Naomi and I did.

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for that, yeah, yeah, yeah, And thank you

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 2>to the listeners and thanking you on their behalf. Clarification,

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 2>no talking to the viewers and the listeners. This is

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 2>also on Netflix so people can watch through and see

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 2>your air.

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 3>Believe me, if the dog talked, that would have been

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 3>the headline.

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that yeah, exact exactly. Yeah, of course.

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 2>And now you guys run a production company together. You

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 2>have a production company, you work together. How long have

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 2>you guys been working together.

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 3>We've been working together since like two thousand twelve about Wow, Yeah,

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 3>it's been a while.

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>That's nice.

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, yeah, it's it's great. I mean we did

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 3>it sort of out of necessity. We made this series

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 3>of specials for Adult Swim where we recreated opening credit

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 3>sequences for eighties television shows Shot for shot, we made

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 3>these opening credit sequences, so and I was directing them,

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 3>she was producing them, and we created it together. So

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 3>we needed to come up with a company, and we

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 3>came up with a name and did everything and then

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 3>it went really well working together because you never know

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 3>how that's going to it could be dicey, but ended

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 3>up being great, and so we just kept going and

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 3>kept doing it and we're now going on like over

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 3>ten years. It's wild.

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 2>So let me turn that question about parenting back to you.

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Has there what was the most surprising thing that you

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 2>found out about yourself as a parent.

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 3>You know what's interesting is that when you there's a

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 3>weird and it's all cliche. Everything is going to say

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 3>is a cliche because everything that I know, it always

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 3>sounds cliche when people talk about parenting. But when you're

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 3>raising kids, whatever age the kid is at, you are

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 3>immediately start flashing back to memories when you were at

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 3>that age, and you start remembering thing things, And maybe

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 3>it's a it's part of a process of just trying

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 3>to empathize with the kids and trying to see the

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 3>world through their eyes. But for whatever reason, I was

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:37.479
<v Speaker 3>kind of flashing back to everything and in my life

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 3>growing up as a kid. And I'm glad that happened

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 3>because it's it's good to be able to kind of

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 3>see yourself through the end and and and and you

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 3>really kind of start to see whatever patterns you may

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 3>not want to repeat with your kids.

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 1>In a parenting sense, or like.

0:31:57.120 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I guess the thing, if I'm thinking about

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 3>what would surprise me, I guess I mean there's the

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 3>cliche thing of you never knew you could love something

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 3>so much, which is totally true. I think that I've

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 3>just been consistently surprised and sort of amazed at them

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 3>and the people that they've become, and the young woman

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 3>and young man that that they are now, because you

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 3>don't have much perspective on it until you really you

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 3>really have to step back because you know you're in

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.959
<v Speaker 3>the midst of it, and so you don't see them growing.

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 3>It's just happening. And it's not until you look at

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 3>a photo or whatever really step back. And then to

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 3>really step back and kind of see them as formed

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 3>people now is something that never stops kind of amazing me.

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 3>And if I take pride in anything, it's that it's

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 3>that they've that they've turned out it's all right, and

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 3>turned out to be terrific people.

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Are they in the business.

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 3>My daughter is an incredible actor in theater at school,

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 3>and my son has no interest.

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I had a boyfriend who once described it as wondrous.

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 2>He said the word wondrous, and I had never heard

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 2>anyone use that word before in.

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 3>A sentience kids growing up, or to just.

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Having children and seeing these little versions of yourself and

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 2>then seeing them kind of just gather all of their

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 2>information and tools that life has to offer, some of

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 2>which you provide, and some that they get on their

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 2>own independent of you, and that they come together and

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 2>they form their own opinions, and then they become these

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 2>little people with their own opinions, and sometimes those opinions

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 2>are different than yours.

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>And you're like, Hi, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>going on here?

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 2>So, and especially in a town like this, because raising

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 2>kids in LA cannot be easy.

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean I don't. Yeah, that's just seems.

0:33:58.520 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Like, why do you say that?

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>It seems like it's too much industry, too much, you know.

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 2>I feel that way as an adult when I spend

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 2>too much time in LA. So I can only imagine

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 2>as a parent how it must feel to have so

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.400
<v Speaker 2>much exposure. I mean, it's it's good to have the

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.839
<v Speaker 2>exposure because it kind of lessens your or mitigates your

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 2>la la la about it, your attitude, but also at

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 2>the same time, it's very rarefied. Yes, it's not really

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>representative of the real world.

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 3>That's right, that's right, I wish. I mean, if you

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 3>want to have a career in show business, I think

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 3>it's it's beneficial to grow up in show business because

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 3>it is completely demystified. Yeah, and because I'm still nervous

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 3>around Robert de Niro whoever. But if you grow up

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:44.359
<v Speaker 3>in it, like I would imagine, if my daughter ends

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 3>up wanting to pursue a career in show business, she's

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 3>going to have a leg up, not because of being

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, a NEPO baby or whatever. I think all

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 3>of that is can only take you so far if

0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 3>you're really if you really want something that it's gonna last,

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 3>you have to have the goods and the chops or whatever.

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>And in many cases you have to work even.

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:08.439
<v Speaker 3>Harder to give yourself. That's true.

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I know plenty of people that have had that. It's like, oh,

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 2>they rejected because oh, that's so and So's daughter. We

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.399
<v Speaker 2>can't hire that person. You know, It's like there's it's

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 2>not like it's all sunshine and roses over in that

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 2>department totally.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 3>But you at least are once you're kind of there

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:27.399
<v Speaker 3>doing something. You're not going to be completely freaked out

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 3>by everything.

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Wait, did you just hear my dog talk? My dog

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>just talk?

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 3>What did he say?

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 2>He just it was a loud snore, but he I

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 2>think there was a syllable in there.

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he said, I can't.

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 3>It can't with me.

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't think I think.

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 3>Enough from this.

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 1>That's what he said.

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 3>I got that vibe when I came in earlier. Yeah.

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, were you nervous when you did your scene with

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 2>de Niro or had you have done anything with him

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 2>prior to the Whisperman No?

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 3>I I was nervous the whole time. I did not

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 3>get used to being around him at all.

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>You him, I don't, I mean, I've no, I don't

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>know him.

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Have you met it?

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I fucking love him?

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I the best.

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Who doesn't love Robert de Nier?

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 2>Now, first of all, he's like eighty years old, and

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 2>he's got his shit together, like he's fucking chugging along

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 2>in that movie.

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he shows him like physical. I was like, oh,

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:22.320
<v Speaker 1>look at him, pretty spry, like a spring chicken.

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 2>I just like his attitude. I like that he calls

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 2>out bullshit all the time.

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:26.959
<v Speaker 3>And it also Trump.

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that. Who doesn't love that?

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and it goes off, you know, we need

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:32.240
<v Speaker 2>more people doing that in his position.

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm obsessed with Robert Denier. I've found him.

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I've seen every single movie he's ever been in, and

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 2>it's nice. I feel like we're in living during a

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 2>time where he's more accessible than he was, like in

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 2>the seventies and eighties before, you know, because he was

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 2>like you know, actors like that were harder to see,

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 2>and now they're more pervasive, like they take on more jobs.

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>The movies are TV, TV is the movies, that kind

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 1>of thing. So what how did you handle your nerves

0:36:57.920 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 1>with him?

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, just for some background, I had Robert. I would

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 3>cut pictures of Robert de Niro out of like Premiere

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:09.919
<v Speaker 3>magazine and put them in my locker. I had them

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 3>on my wall in my bedroom. I even Tricky is ready.

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 3>I even took a picture of him, Remember the tattoos

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 3>in Cape Fear. I had a picture of him on

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 3>the CD tray that came out of my CD player,

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 3>so the him from Cape Fear would come out at you.

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:33.399
<v Speaker 3>If when the tray opened, I was like, people would

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 3>be like, what are you doing, like, you need to

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 3>calm down about Robert Robert de Niro. So I you know,

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 3>when you're there with the person and they're talking to

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 3>you and everything they're doing is so fundamental, Like you know,

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 3>like you said, you've seen everything that he's done. So

0:37:54.960 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 3>it's so strange to actually be there and then have

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:06.319
<v Speaker 3>to work and not make a fool of yourself.

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Like are you the type of person that wants him

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 2>to respect you? Or are you trying to get him

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 2>to like you? Or are you the type of person

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 2>that wants to make him laugh.

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm I just want to make sure the scenes are

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:23.399
<v Speaker 3>working and I'm doing my part there. That's it. That's it,

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 3>because everything else it's Robert de Niro. He's one of

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 3>the great actors that we've ever had, one of the

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:35.239
<v Speaker 3>greatest actors we've ever ever had. So I'm not going

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.879
<v Speaker 3>to dance around and try and try and get him

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 3>to like me. It's way too intimidating to do that.

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 3>In fact, there was one time when I was talking

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:47.919
<v Speaker 3>to Naomi on the phone and I was like, hey,

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 3>so I was thinking, there's this I have this question

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 3>about the Irishman, and I wanted to ask Bob about it,

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 3>and I think tomorrow we're working together, I think I

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 3>might find chance to to to approach him. And there's

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:07.720
<v Speaker 3>this thing I've been wondering about. And she's like, Adam,

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 3>you are starring in a movie with him. You're not

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 3>like an extra or you have one scene you can

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:19.879
<v Speaker 3>ask him about the Irishman. What are you doing. I'm like, yeah,

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 3>you're you're right, I'm in the thing with him, And

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 3>so I did. I asked him about the Irishman and

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 3>he was like, yeah, great, and he's just he's the

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Actually such a sweet, accessible person is what you come

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 3>to find out. So, uh, it was. It was lovely,

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 3>but I never ever got used to it.

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I know you did like podcasts on

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 2>YouTube like some other bands, right, Springsteen did you do?

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 3>We did that. We did YouTube, ari Em, Talking Heads

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 3>and Springsteen.

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>So four of those, yeah, because that would Robert Geniro

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 1>would be a good subject matter for a podcast. Also,

0:39:57.120 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, you're right, really, I mean for film buffs totally.

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 2>So okay, out of those four bands, who is your

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I just gave you your next podcast idea.

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.719
<v Speaker 1>You're welcome. So out of those four bands, do you

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 1>have a favorite out.

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Of r em. Really, yeah, they're my favorite.

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Out of all of them.

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, okay, yeah yeah yeah.

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Were you in a video with Rim?

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:21.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I was an extra in a video of theirs?

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:22.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh really?

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 3>We like one? Tic like the chance to go be

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 3>in the video on the radio me and my friends. Huh,

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 3>I drove down here and did that, like in nineteen

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 3>ninety two.

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I believe is how many RM concerts have you been to?

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Man a lot. I've saw them so many times. I

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:43.280
<v Speaker 3>think they're the best American bands.

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's quite an endorsement.

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 3>I know. Good right. Are you not a fan? You

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 3>seem surprised.

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm not a fan. I just they're not my

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I love Springsteen. I love you too. I like Rim.

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I've just never been like an uber fan of M.

0:40:58.800 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>But was the podcast.

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 3>You're the generation that grew up with all those?

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, well yeah, Springsteen I came into later in

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 2>life because somebody took me to a Springsteen concert in Oslo, Norway,

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 2>and I was like.

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>What the holy shit incredible. I cannot believe this man.

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:19.839
<v Speaker 2>He is the coolest of all time. He's another one

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 2>you know who speaks up and I love that. It's

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:23.320
<v Speaker 2>all these old guys.

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:25.960
<v Speaker 3>The fact that his tour right now, he's going around.

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah talking about have you seen him recently perform?

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 3>I saw him like three years ago is amazing.

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:36.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's like he's seventy five, I think now seventy five, yeah,

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:40.879
<v Speaker 2>seventy five and he performs for three hours and you two,

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 2>you've seen a bunch, right. It's nice to see all

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 2>these kind.

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Of old guys up there fucking rocking it out and

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>like showing people how it's done.

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Yea.

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 2>And also emblematic of the fact that we obviously have

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 2>access to medicines and treatments that we didn't many many

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 2>years ago.

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>That these guys are like out there blowing it up

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 1>and dancing. It's pretty cool.

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 2>But when I remember seeing Bruce Springsteen for the first time,

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I've seen you too a bunch of times.

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>And talking Heads.

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I love the talking Heads. Yeah, I don't think I

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 2>ever saw them in concert.

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 3>I didn't either, Oh you did it well, they broke

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:16.240
<v Speaker 3>up like in like nineteen eighty nine or nineteen something

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 3>like that, so it was no, I never did. Unfortunately,

0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 3>I've seen David Byrne though. He's incredible.

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's still kicking it. He's kicking it around and

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 2>it's having a resurgence.

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Amazing. It's a great show to see him, see him perform.

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah. That music is so evocative.

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 2>Talking Heads specifically takes you to a time told Bruce

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.439
<v Speaker 2>Springsteen is like, you know, his library is so long,

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:40.839
<v Speaker 2>and so is you. Two's that there's songs that hit

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 2>you for certain times, but talking Heads like takes you to.

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 1>The moment wherever you were when you heard that rim too.

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Ari yam for sure, I remember all of that. Are

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:57.240
<v Speaker 1>we ready for some callers?

0:42:57.280 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 2>We're so ready you've been to therapy, because we'll have

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:04.720
<v Speaker 2>one that's just an email.

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.320
<v Speaker 4>We'll like save your hair like a couple more minutes.

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 1>You could also put them on like this, you want

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>to ruin your.

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:17.799
<v Speaker 4>Hay one ear well, this is just a quickie. This

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 4>is our one drink question. B says, I'm trying to

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 4>convince my best friends, a couple to go on vacation

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 4>to Mexico with us this summer. The problem is they

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 4>have not spent one night with both of them away

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 4>from their kids. Their kids are seven and eight. They

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 4>can afford to sitter. How do we convince them to

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:36.120
<v Speaker 4>take some time away being adults.

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 3>Be they's seven and eight and never been away from

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:42.400
<v Speaker 3>their kids. Oh my god, they have to do that.

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 3>They have to, Yeah, they have to. I think you

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 3>know what might help is if they find an example

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.799
<v Speaker 3>of someone that does that often, like once a month

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:56.239
<v Speaker 3>they take a couple of days away from their kids

0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 3>or every few months or whatever it is, and present

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:02.399
<v Speaker 3>it to them as doesn't this look fun?

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Also, there's so much like information available totally to support

0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 2>the idea of taking breaks from your children makes you

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:12.720
<v Speaker 2>a better parent.

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I also think the kids want a break from

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 4>their parents. Like they love going and having yes said

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 4>or comm or Grandma and grandpa or whoever it is.

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 4>It's fun and different.

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.280
<v Speaker 2>It's also just it's just a good system and healthy

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 2>like boundary to get into so that you're not seven

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:31.720
<v Speaker 2>or eight years old like you're going into like super Obviously,

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 2>their family is a codependent family like that. You can't

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 2>avoid being codependent with your family. That's just the way

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 2>it works. But you want to teach these kids, you know,

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 2>like some sort of independence and not have it go

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:44.279
<v Speaker 2>on to where they're fourteen or fifteen and they've never

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 2>had a sleepover. I had a friend who had a

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.959
<v Speaker 2>fifteen year old who had never slept over somebody else's house.

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:51.360
<v Speaker 4>Apparently, like sleepovers have kind of gone away.

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 2>We wor about their kids, you know, getting molested, which

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 2>is reasonable, but hopefully you couldn't. I mean, that is

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 2>a reasonable fear, but it's not like it shouldn't be

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:02.359
<v Speaker 2>your only thing.

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, do you're driving force? I mean you can.

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.360
<v Speaker 1>You can make have people that are going to be

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>with your kids that you know and trust.

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:13.879
<v Speaker 4>Right, So does it a little get molested, Like get

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:16.920
<v Speaker 4>out there, get at some point.

0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 3>Our kids did sleepovers all the time, and at some

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 3>point those kids are going to go to camp or whatever,

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 3>like they have to get to campes.

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 1>But this is a good first step.

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, just tell them it's a fully endorsed

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 2>plan by all parties you spoke to.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Yes, leave your kids for a week or whatever,

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 4>a few days, that's right, Well, Perry says, online dating

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:43.479
<v Speaker 4>broke me. Dear Chelsea, big fan of the show, even

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 4>bigger fan of Doug. I need some advice on how

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 4>to push myself out of the habits I've developed from

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:50.840
<v Speaker 4>online dating. I'm twenty eight and I've been living in

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 4>Montreal for ten years. I've been technically single for about

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.479
<v Speaker 4>four and a half years, over compensating for several years

0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 4>of serial monogamy. I love my life and I'm very

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 4>fulfilled with my friendship careers. So after a long hiatus

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:05.360
<v Speaker 4>of single girl style dating, a long term situationship, and

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:08.759
<v Speaker 4>admittedly a fear of commitment, I've decided I'm officially ready

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 4>to start looking for something serious. Here's the issue. I've

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.200
<v Speaker 4>been online dating since I was sixteen, sorry mom and Dad,

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 4>and it's seriously like you, and it seriously impacted my

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 4>ability to initiate interactions with people who interest me in person.

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm quite extroverted and I'm generally pretty good at going

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:29.400
<v Speaker 4>after what I want. This definitely comes through when I'm swiping,

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 4>and I never hesitate to ask someone to meet for

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 4>drinks when a bit of interest has sparked. But if

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 4>I meet someone out in the world, even if we're flirting,

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 4>I have completely lost my nerve to take the next

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:40.400
<v Speaker 4>step of asking them for their number or to go

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:42.759
<v Speaker 4>on a date. I know this likely stems from a

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 4>fear of rejection, which is a much bigger blow face

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:47.000
<v Speaker 4>to face than it is over the apps. Not to

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 4>mention that everyone I talk to on the apps has

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 4>already shown interest before we start talking. But I want

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 4>to open this door for myself. As natural chemistry is everything.

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 4>I'd love to be able to confidently ask people out

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 4>when I meet them face to face. I love any

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 4>advice you can give me. I've had a crush on

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 4>a guy at my gym for months, and even though

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:04.600
<v Speaker 4>we're already chatting, I always get tongue tied before I

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:05.840
<v Speaker 4>can take the next step.

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Perry, Oh, this is so fun. This is so fun.

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:12.759
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing like creating a new habit. First of all, Hi,

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 2>how are you.

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Hi, Nice to meet you. Stunged to be here?

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, we're happy you're here. This is our special guest,

0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Adam Scott's here today.

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 3>Hi, Hi, nice to meet you.

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:29.120
<v Speaker 1>How's it going that you didn't expect that? Yeah? Okay.

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:31.880
<v Speaker 2>First of all, this is the perfect way to start,

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 2>is to go up to this guy in the gym

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:35.400
<v Speaker 2>and say exactly what you said to us. It's been

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 2>a shorter way just to say, listen, I am trying

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:41.720
<v Speaker 2>to break my habit of only online dating and actually

0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:45.000
<v Speaker 2>working on my skill set about initiating and so you

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.440
<v Speaker 2>can say yes, or you can say no, but I

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 2>am just practicing right now.

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I've been noticing you for the last few months.

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Whatever however you want to phrase it, but use that

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 2>guy as your first step in and use that storyline

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 2>as you're intro or entree or entry I'm not sure

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 2>which word I'm thinking of right now, but to get

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:08.880
<v Speaker 2>into this situation, because you can form a new habit

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 2>into like you know, I people say twenty eight days.

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I think it's like fewer than that. I think you

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 2>can really form new habits in six or seven times.

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:18.359
<v Speaker 2>Like I think, if you really do something and you

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:19.239
<v Speaker 2>make yourself do.

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 1>It, it's not that hard.

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 2>You're just you've just been trained online, like you just

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of have to unlearn that behavior. But it's really

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:31.200
<v Speaker 2>also empowering, regardless of what the response is to go

0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:33.839
<v Speaker 2>up to someone and say something like that, and it's

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 2>going to become its own kind of intoxic, hating thing

0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 2>for you to do, don't you think, Adam, I'm you

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.640
<v Speaker 2>probably haven't experienced online dating ever because you've been.

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 1>With your wife.

0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Isn't that crazy? But that's lucky? Well, most people, most

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:51.839
<v Speaker 3>marriages these days are it's people met online. Yeah, and

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 3>apps and stuff. I mean I think if you went

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:58.480
<v Speaker 3>up to him and said what Chelsea just said, he

0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:02.719
<v Speaker 3>would be so psyched. I mean, first of all, it

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:07.279
<v Speaker 3>would be so flattering, But secondly, it's so refreshing that

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:11.799
<v Speaker 3>someone would would say something and just be upfront like that,

0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:14.320
<v Speaker 3>because everyone's hiding behind the apps.

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and keep that in mind, like you're not the

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:21.480
<v Speaker 2>only person that's experiencing these like this app like dating lifestyle.

0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Everyone in your age and younger and older is also

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:28.400
<v Speaker 2>dealing with the same thing. So it's going to be

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:31.360
<v Speaker 2>refreshing for him too. And it really doesn't matter what

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 2>anybody says. This is an exercise for you. So even

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:37.840
<v Speaker 2>if he says no, I doubt he will honestly, unless

0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:39.920
<v Speaker 2>he's got a girlfriend or a wife or something, which

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, then fine.

0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:44.520
<v Speaker 1>But even if he does say no, who gives a shit?

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:46.400
<v Speaker 2>There's a you know what I mean, Like you're going

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 2>to get used to the idea of like it's more

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 2>about you empowering yourself and like making that move than

0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 2>about what is like the end game and the response

0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:56.640
<v Speaker 2>that you get.

0:49:57.360 --> 0:49:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's all very good advice.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I've just gotten into the habit of if

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 6>I do take interest in someone in person kind of

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, laying the groundwork but waiting for them to

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:10.319
<v Speaker 6>ye like that final move.

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:12.719
<v Speaker 2>That's lame because I used to be like that too,

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 2>But it's like, who we don't have time for that. Yeah,

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 2>we're all it's here for a short period of time.

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Like you got to go after what you want. And

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.400
<v Speaker 2>here's something that I always do that might help you.

0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:23.680
<v Speaker 2>I always just think on behalf of all women when

0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing something like that. When I'm being like, you know,

0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:28.200
<v Speaker 2>like doing something that kind of scares me, I'm like,

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 2>I want all women to feel this way. I want

0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:32.240
<v Speaker 2>to empower all women with the move that I'm making,

0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:34.400
<v Speaker 2>So like, think of all women when you do this,

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Like you're not just helping yourself, you're kind of setting

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 2>an example for anyone who might see you do it,

0:50:39.200 --> 0:50:41.360
<v Speaker 2>even though I'm sure you don't want an audience, you know,

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:43.960
<v Speaker 2>like you just kind of think about it as like

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:47.920
<v Speaker 2>an energetic vibe that you're setting the tone for and

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 2>that you're kind of helping other people like level up

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 2>to the moment too, And you know, think about like

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:57.160
<v Speaker 2>going up to people. That's just a stronger move anyway

0:50:57.160 --> 0:50:58.280
<v Speaker 2>than hiding behind a screen.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's such great advice, and going into it

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:05.879
<v Speaker 3>thinking if he says no or who gives a shit,

0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 3>that's not the point of it. The point of it

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:11.799
<v Speaker 3>is to just inject yourself into the world a little more,

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:16.280
<v Speaker 3>and whether this particular person has the reaction you want

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:19.759
<v Speaker 3>or not, it's not about that. It's about you know,

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 3>the next one, will you know? It's about getting yourself

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:25.879
<v Speaker 3>out there, and like Chelsea said, kind of shifting your

0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:26.839
<v Speaker 3>habits a little bit.

0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, I think once, you know, I if I

0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 6>get to the point where I reach two or three

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 6>rejections and realize it's like really not as terrifying or

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:39.920
<v Speaker 6>as devastating as it sounds like it will be, I'll

0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 6>probably really settle into my comfort zone with it. But

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:46.799
<v Speaker 6>I think using that approach in general and just kind

0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:49.640
<v Speaker 6>of being really upfront about wanting to get outside of

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:54.120
<v Speaker 6>the online dating space is a really good approach because

0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:55.960
<v Speaker 6>I'm sure I'm not the only one feeling this way.

0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're definitely not. And also, I want to just

0:51:58.920 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 1>tell you a quick story. I had this what you're

0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:02.240
<v Speaker 1>talking about.

0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Like me, I was shy, which is I'm sure hard

0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:05.960
<v Speaker 2>for many people to believe.

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:08.360
<v Speaker 1>But I was at I was in Whistler.

0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 2>This was many years ago, and there was a group

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:11.680
<v Speaker 2>of guys sitting at a table and I was with

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:12.440
<v Speaker 2>my friend's daughter.

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 1>She was like sixteen years old at the time, and it.

0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Was just me and her and there's a group of

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:18.719
<v Speaker 2>guys and there's one guy that I was like, Oh,

0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:20.799
<v Speaker 2>this guy is cute. And then we got up from

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:22.480
<v Speaker 2>the table and we're leaving the restaurant and I said

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 2>to the sixteen year old girl, I'm like, that guy

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:24.440
<v Speaker 2>was cute.

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:26.120
<v Speaker 1>And she goes, let's go back, and I'm like, no,

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing that. I'm like, they know who I am.

0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going back to a group of men and

0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:34.560
<v Speaker 1>saying you And she goes, I'll do it. And so

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:39.359
<v Speaker 1>she went back and she's like, oh, he's married, and

0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:42.600
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I can't believe a sixteen year old.

0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 2>Just did something that I should have been doing. You know,

0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I was forty something at the time, and I was like,

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I just remember it.

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:49.240
<v Speaker 1>In that moment.

0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:51.959
<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, next time, I'm saying something that's great.

0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:55.399
<v Speaker 4>So and remember, like the ask is not like, hey,

0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:56.759
<v Speaker 4>do you want to fall in love and get married?

0:52:58.920 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Totally.

0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 6>The big fear isn't finding out that they're in relationships.

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I actually did find out.

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:06.920
<v Speaker 6>That this guy was single, and then it became scarier

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:09.800
<v Speaker 6>because I knew that a rejection like wouldn't be because

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:11.960
<v Speaker 6>he was married, because that doesn't scare me. I'm not

0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:14.799
<v Speaker 6>afraid of, you know, like finding out, oh, you know,

0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:18.560
<v Speaker 6>he's he's already committed, like that doesn't feel like a rejection,

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 6>like being told no, I'm not interested in you. So

0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:26.040
<v Speaker 6>that kind of as much as that seemed like it

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:27.640
<v Speaker 6>would be a step forward, kind of felt like a

0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 6>step back.

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:31.240
<v Speaker 2>But here's another thing about rejection. I think you should

0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:33.000
<v Speaker 2>look at rejection. You just have to flip the switch

0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:36.040
<v Speaker 2>the way you're looking through things. Flip it upside down,

0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:39.200
<v Speaker 2>like think about the opposite. Every rejection is closer to

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 2>getting what you want, right.

0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:41.760
<v Speaker 1>That's true.

0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Say you get rejected by five guys to meet the

0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:45.960
<v Speaker 2>person that you're gonna marry, wouldn't you want to get

0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:46.480
<v Speaker 2>there faster?

0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, there are almost

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:51.000
<v Speaker 1>so many people in Montreal.

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of people in Montreal. You're gonna

0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:56.160
<v Speaker 2>be fine, You're beautiful, you have a great spirit.

0:53:56.320 --> 0:53:56.959
<v Speaker 1>It's all good.

0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 2>All good vibes, spread the good vibes and do it

0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:00.839
<v Speaker 2>and report back.

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Let us know what happens.

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:05.319
<v Speaker 3>I will. I will, absolutely, And you'll never know if

0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:07.239
<v Speaker 3>you don't, if you don't ask, if you don't give it.

0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Right, that is very true.

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:11.799
<v Speaker 6>And yeah, if only we're in a place where I

0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:13.760
<v Speaker 6>could have, you know, a glass of wine before.

0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 2>But it would be funny to have a glass of

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 2>wine and then go to the gym just for the

0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:20.319
<v Speaker 2>purpose of a day.

0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:22.120
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing I would say.

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:26.919
<v Speaker 6>Certain, that would really be uh be helpful for my deal.

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:30.800
<v Speaker 4>All right, Thank you, Harry.

0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:32.839
<v Speaker 3>Nice to read.

0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Hey, bye, nice to meet you. Bye. That's Cuteutie, that

0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:37.680
<v Speaker 1>is cute.

0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Well.

0:54:42.000 --> 0:54:45.359
<v Speaker 4>Our next caller is Genie and her subject line is

0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:50.440
<v Speaker 4>I cut off my maga mom. Oops, question mark. Dear Chelsea.

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 4>I've been at war with myself since January twenty ninth

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:55.200
<v Speaker 4>of this year. That was the day I blew up

0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:56.840
<v Speaker 4>at my mother over the phone and called her a

0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:59.000
<v Speaker 4>hypocrite and a fascist and said I never wanted to

0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:01.719
<v Speaker 4>talk to her again. I'm fifty three and my mother

0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:04.680
<v Speaker 4>is eighty five. She's rider die Maga and in complete

0:55:04.680 --> 0:55:07.400
<v Speaker 4>denial of any facts provided by me or anyone else.

0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:10.200
<v Speaker 4>She's so far in the cult she doesn't think he

0:55:10.320 --> 0:55:13.359
<v Speaker 4>lies like at all. During his first term, she kept

0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:16.759
<v Speaker 4>a framed picture of Trump and Milania in her living room.

0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 4>She's never done that with any other president. She's largely

0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:23.480
<v Speaker 4>steered clear of initiating political conversations with me, but it's

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 4>hard to avoid discussing Trump when she asks how I've been,

0:55:26.120 --> 0:55:28.600
<v Speaker 4>because I'm so overwhelmed by all the terrible things he's doing.

0:55:29.200 --> 0:55:31.720
<v Speaker 4>After the invasion of Minnesota and the killing of Renee

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:34.080
<v Speaker 4>Good and Alex Pretty, I was sure Mom's position on

0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:36.920
<v Speaker 4>Trump would have changed in that final conversation. When I

0:55:36.920 --> 0:55:39.839
<v Speaker 4>asked if she still supports him, she said yes, I'm

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:41.880
<v Speaker 4>not proud of this, but I lost my shit. I

0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 4>told her she would have supported her Jewish neighbors being

0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:46.960
<v Speaker 4>hauled away if she had lived in Germany in the thirties.

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:50.120
<v Speaker 4>I told her she would have supported Japanese interment camps,

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<v Speaker 4>both events we discussed at length when I was a child,

0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:56.080
<v Speaker 4>with her stating how awful these were. Her values have shifted,

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:58.279
<v Speaker 4>and it's very hard to tolerate. In case you're thinking

0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:00.520
<v Speaker 4>she's lost her Marbles, that's not the case. She's sharp

0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:02.760
<v Speaker 4>as a tech. Now that a few months have passed,

0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:05.360
<v Speaker 4>I think I've made a mistake. Yes, her position is

0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:08.000
<v Speaker 4>hypocritical and immoral, but she's my eighty five year old

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:09.799
<v Speaker 4>mother who has maybe ten years left on this earth.

0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:13.080
<v Speaker 4>As a mother, she's great, always loving, and supportive. She's

0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:15.439
<v Speaker 4>been a doting grandmother to my two kids. The war

0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:18.600
<v Speaker 4>with myself is should I apologize and resume our relationship

0:56:18.840 --> 0:56:22.200
<v Speaker 4>or do I continue to refuse to normalize her repugnant views.

0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:24.759
<v Speaker 4>Either option feels terrible, but I don't want to lose

0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:27.200
<v Speaker 4>these final years with her. Chelsea, What would you do

0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:27.920
<v Speaker 4>in my position?

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<v Speaker 1>Genie? Hi, Genie, Hi, Hi Jeanie. This is Adam Scott,

0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:33.560
<v Speaker 1>our special guest.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi my gosh, Hiay.

0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I feel for you. You're not alone at all.

0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:44.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we get people calling in about this stuff

0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:47.719
<v Speaker 2>all the time. I think what I've come to realize

0:56:47.719 --> 0:56:50.800
<v Speaker 2>in the recent weeks is that I think you should

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:55.000
<v Speaker 2>treat her even though she's got she's with it mentally.

0:56:55.360 --> 0:56:59.359
<v Speaker 1>You have to treat like maga people like they have.

0:56:59.320 --> 0:57:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Mental illness, Like you have to think of it like

0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:03.120
<v Speaker 2>a mental illness.

0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:06.720
<v Speaker 1>They're part of a cult and they've been tricked. Clearly

0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:07.640
<v Speaker 1>they've been tricked.

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:10.360
<v Speaker 2>If she was teaching you about the Holocaust and Japanese

0:57:10.400 --> 0:57:13.640
<v Speaker 2>and tournament camps, she's been tricked, just like all of

0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:16.360
<v Speaker 2>these people have been tricked into thinking that this person

0:57:16.560 --> 0:57:19.640
<v Speaker 2>cares about them. So, even though it's so hard to

0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:23.120
<v Speaker 2>compartmentalize that, I think you should just really think of

0:57:23.160 --> 0:57:26.920
<v Speaker 2>it like, oh, she's a victim of a scheme, you know,

0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:30.360
<v Speaker 2>like she's chosen even though she has free will, Like

0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she has chosen to be in this.

0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Group of people. But you have to look at it

0:57:35.560 --> 0:57:39.520
<v Speaker 1>like it's mental illness, and you can't. You just have to.

0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Because if you want this relationship with your mother, which

0:57:42.600 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 2>I completely understand, why wouldn't you, you know, I think you.

0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Just have to go to her. I don't know that

0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you have to.

0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Apologize, per se. I think you should go to her

0:57:51.600 --> 0:57:54.680
<v Speaker 2>with like love and be like, listen.

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:58.040
<v Speaker 1>You're really you're old, You're my mother. I need to

0:57:58.280 --> 0:57:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I want I mean, you're not, you're old.

0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:01.720
<v Speaker 2>You're going to but you know, like I want us

0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:03.439
<v Speaker 2>to spend time with each other.

0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:05.920
<v Speaker 1>You've been a wonderful mother. I know we don't agree

0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:06.400
<v Speaker 1>on this stuff.

0:58:06.400 --> 0:58:08.120
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's the best thing we can do

0:58:08.240 --> 0:58:10.960
<v Speaker 2>is just to not discuss it and really focus on

0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:14.560
<v Speaker 2>just having a loving, caring relationship and not bring up politics.

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:17.640
<v Speaker 2>And I know that's really hard right now, but I

0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:20.480
<v Speaker 2>think you can do it because it's your mom. You know,

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:22.360
<v Speaker 2>you could talk about your family, You could talk about

0:58:22.400 --> 0:58:22.880
<v Speaker 2>your kids.

0:58:22.920 --> 0:58:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you have kids, Yes, I have two teenagers. Okay, great,

0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:29.320
<v Speaker 1>so there's plenty to talk about, right.

0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:33.200
<v Speaker 5>Yes, you know what now that you've framed it like that,

0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:37.320
<v Speaker 5>like she's been tricked, like sometimes the elderly do get Yeah,

0:58:38.760 --> 0:58:42.080
<v Speaker 5>if I can, if I can look at her that way,

0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:47.600
<v Speaker 5>I think I can manage to be calm yeah, okay when.

0:58:47.480 --> 0:58:49.560
<v Speaker 4>And just just not.

0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:52.000
<v Speaker 5>Talk about it. I think that's our only course of action.

0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I know how tricky it is though, because it's I

0:58:57.000 --> 0:59:00.880
<v Speaker 3>think back to like George W. Bush Organ or George

0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Bush Sr. And back to back then. I had friends

0:59:05.520 --> 0:59:09.080
<v Speaker 3>that were Republicans back in those days, and it was

0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:11.960
<v Speaker 3>so much simpler. It was a political. It was a

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:16.640
<v Speaker 3>disagreement on politics. And so when people now are like,

0:59:16.800 --> 0:59:19.640
<v Speaker 3>it's just it's it's just a disagreement. Why is it

0:59:20.000 --> 0:59:23.200
<v Speaker 3>such a big deal. It is different though. It's a

0:59:23.280 --> 0:59:28.240
<v Speaker 3>disagreement about fundamental truths and about reality. So I know

0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:32.040
<v Speaker 3>how how this how hard this is for you, and

0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it is so difficult to separate it from

0:59:36.120 --> 0:59:42.200
<v Speaker 3>because it's so ingrained in everything, because what all the

0:59:42.600 --> 0:59:47.400
<v Speaker 3>MEGA followers have been duped into is so fundamental and

0:59:47.760 --> 0:59:53.080
<v Speaker 3>is so wide reaching. But I think what Chelsea said

0:59:53.120 --> 0:59:56.520
<v Speaker 3>is exactly right. It's just a matter of zeroing in

0:59:56.880 --> 0:59:59.560
<v Speaker 3>on the things that you can talk about and just

0:59:59.640 --> 1:00:02.560
<v Speaker 3>focus sing in on that. And it is true. She

1:00:02.880 --> 1:00:06.800
<v Speaker 3>has been tricked and a lot of older folks have

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<v Speaker 3>been a lot of older folks who are a MEGA

1:00:09.440 --> 1:00:13.280
<v Speaker 3>have been kind of pulled into this thing and taken

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<v Speaker 3>advantage of.

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<v Speaker 5>So you don't think I'll be compromising my values.

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<v Speaker 1>No, okay, your mother.

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<v Speaker 2>It's your mom, and she's older and she's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be around for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're compromising your values.

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<v Speaker 2>I really respect that you're asking that, because I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I think about that stuff a lot too. It's like, oh, no,

1:00:30.760 --> 1:00:32.760
<v Speaker 2>it's your mother. It's not like a guy you're dating.

1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:35.120
<v Speaker 2>And you know what I mean, It's not like that.

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<v Speaker 2>This is you don't have a choice who your parents are,

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<v Speaker 2>and this happened to your mother. This happened to your mother.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how you have to think about it. Like this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this mental illness happened to her, So if

1:00:47.520 --> 1:00:50.320
<v Speaker 2>she were mentally ill, how would you react to that?

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't cut off ties with her.

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<v Speaker 2>You would be really supportive in every way you could be.

1:00:55.400 --> 1:00:57.520
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to be supportive of her politics, but

1:00:57.680 --> 1:01:00.520
<v Speaker 2>just be supportive of her as an individual and the

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<v Speaker 2>love and caring, and don't wait for her to get it,

1:01:03.600 --> 1:01:05.600
<v Speaker 2>because she's probably not gonna get it. There's not going

1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:08.720
<v Speaker 2>to be anything that's gonna happen that's going to change

1:01:08.720 --> 1:01:12.440
<v Speaker 2>her mind. Even when he goes down, she's still probably

1:01:12.440 --> 1:01:15.280
<v Speaker 2>gonna feel the same way. So don't, like let go

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<v Speaker 2>of that if you can, and work on letting go

1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:19.680
<v Speaker 2>of that, Like that's a good kind of mantra for

1:01:19.760 --> 1:01:22.320
<v Speaker 2>you to like say, let go of that, don't hold

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<v Speaker 2>on to this hope. I have those feelings all.

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<v Speaker 1>The time about like these people.

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<v Speaker 2>What are these people going to do when when the

1:01:29.080 --> 1:01:31.760
<v Speaker 2>emperor has no clothes, obviously he has no clothes. We're

1:01:31.800 --> 1:01:35.000
<v Speaker 2>watching it happen in real time. It's they're never gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get it. They're never gonna say we were wrong. I mean,

1:01:37.360 --> 1:01:39.080
<v Speaker 2>some people will, but most people are.

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<v Speaker 1>Not going to say it, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get I get that you're principled, and I

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<v Speaker 2>get that it's making you sick. It makes anyone who

1:01:45.000 --> 1:01:47.600
<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel that way sick. You know, we're all dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with this in our lives. But just focus on her

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<v Speaker 2>being your mother and just think of her as as

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<v Speaker 2>really sick.

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<v Speaker 5>So be cause initially my impulse was to write, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a very educational letter and cite sources and give her

1:02:02.520 --> 1:02:06.560
<v Speaker 5>the information about how these migrants are being treated, and

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<v Speaker 5>just provide lots of evidence that maybe I could change

1:02:09.200 --> 1:02:11.360
<v Speaker 5>her mind. But I think what you're saying is it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's not worth it. There's nothing I can or anyone

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<v Speaker 5>can say at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>No, what Trump has tapped into is like a different

1:02:17.520 --> 1:02:21.080
<v Speaker 4>part of the brain than logic and reasoning. It's exactly,

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<v Speaker 4>it's something totally.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're amigdala, it's your fear of component. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's like working off a fear. But just divorce yourself

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<v Speaker 2>from the idea that she's going to ever get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't waste your time. It's your time is probably better

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<v Speaker 2>spent doing other things, like showing up for the people

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<v Speaker 2>in your life that do feel the same way you do,

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<v Speaker 2>and like doubling down on love and kindness for strangers

1:02:44.000 --> 1:02:46.800
<v Speaker 2>and the people who are being affected by these terrible policies.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I try to focus on when I get

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<v Speaker 2>really angry, is like, okay, flip that anger into positivity.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think, you know, I think you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>good and you're gonna be happier if you just make

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<v Speaker 2>nice with her and make peace with her.

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<v Speaker 5>Because it sounds think, just pick up the phone say hey, mom,

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<v Speaker 5>I regret losing my temper. I've been thinking about this

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<v Speaker 5>for several months, and I do think i'd make I

1:03:15.240 --> 1:03:17.520
<v Speaker 5>made a mistake, and I would like to just moving forward,

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<v Speaker 5>not talk about politics. Let's just focus on a family

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<v Speaker 5>and resume my relationship to the link to that effects.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know if you need to say that

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<v Speaker 3>you made a mistake. I think you just say I

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<v Speaker 3>love you and I miss you. Yes, and can we

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<v Speaker 3>just relationship?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, be sweet and be funny if you can be

1:03:35.240 --> 1:03:38.440
<v Speaker 2>like I love you, I missed you, and like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what your relationship is like, but be

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<v Speaker 2>cute and short. I don't think you even get into

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<v Speaker 2>the political stuff right now. If it comes up again,

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<v Speaker 2>just say hey, you know what, we don't agree on this,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I'm really focused on I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>spend as much quality time with you as possible. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about the kids or what's going on with

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<v Speaker 2>you in your life. You know that's not political. When

1:04:00.080 --> 1:04:04.160
<v Speaker 2>the situation presents itself, then you can say something, but

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<v Speaker 2>not prematurely. I don't want you to reactivate that. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you just go in with love and that that's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to deny.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's smart.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, this helps so much. You don't even know how

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<v Speaker 5>much sleep I've been losing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's horrible.

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<v Speaker 5>So I really appreciate you, you know, Chelsea, You're so wise,

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<v Speaker 5>and I just thank you. And Adam. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 5>I can't believe I'm talking to you anyway, but thank

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<v Speaker 5>you so much. And I'll let you get to your

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<v Speaker 5>next color.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Thank you gie.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, I will bye bye. Thank you. Oh. We

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<v Speaker 1>really helped her.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. I feel like it all comes down to

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<v Speaker 3>I think the number one hat trick of Trump's is that,

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<v Speaker 3>And it's fundamental that he turns the truth into a

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<v Speaker 3>political position. He's convinced everyone that the truth is a

1:04:55.080 --> 1:05:01.480
<v Speaker 3>far left radical political position. So when resented, like if

1:05:01.480 --> 1:05:04.680
<v Speaker 3>she wrote up a bunch of evidence like she yes

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<v Speaker 3>said you, it's just going to be seen as propaganda and.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, you know, right right.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's nice when when people are really not when

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<v Speaker 2>they're tormented, but when you can really actually help them,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like come to it, because all you really

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<v Speaker 2>need is an outside perspective. I believe with any situation,

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<v Speaker 2>you need someone who's not involved in your life to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of give you some fool black.

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<v Speaker 1>Because no one else, you know, no one's going to

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<v Speaker 1>steer you wrong unless you're completely a malevolent person trying

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<v Speaker 1>to trying to ruin people's lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Adam, I love talking to you. I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 2>you're here. I mean, oh, I got your DM. You

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<v Speaker 2>asked me that you were like, I sent you a video.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it didn't play.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even though I sent you a video, So

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<v Speaker 2>that was news to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was probably telling you how great you were in

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<v Speaker 1>severance or something. I do a lot of video messaging

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like, I like to bring that back.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we've lost the art of that. But

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<v Speaker 2>you guys can see Adam right here on Netflix. You

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<v Speaker 2>can watch The Whisperman with de Niro and another one

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<v Speaker 2>of my favorites, Michelle Montan. She is in it as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and Adham plays de Niro's son in this.

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<v Speaker 3>Movie, and Michael Keaton's in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Keaton. Oh, I don't want to give that away.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a giveaway.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a secret?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, Michael Keaton's in the movie too. Okay, there

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<v Speaker 1>you go.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just so glad, Chelsea, because we've run into each

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<v Speaker 3>other a bunch over the years, and you're always so

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<v Speaker 3>kind and so cool and funny, and I'm a fan

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<v Speaker 3>of your yours regardless. So I'm glad we finally got

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<v Speaker 3>to like sit down and chat. It was really great.

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<v Speaker 1>Likewise, I feel the same way about you. Thank you. Thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Adam.

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