1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hey discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: Yeah me too. This is the podcast that comes after 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: the podcast. 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: after party. This is the show after the show, the 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: party after the party, the bridge to get you from 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: The backyard, to dig into the dirt, our mission. 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: To uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: the story. On this bonus episode, we were talking about 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: old Dirty Bastard and the body in the trunk of 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: the car allegedly registered to a modern day hip hop artist. 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: We're rewinding back to our dimebag Daryl from Pantera episode 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: previewing next week's led Zeppelin in the Haunting of Headley 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Grange Part two episode we get into your voicemails, text, dms, 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: and as always, a whole lot of rosie. This is 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: thinkers who know that the. 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: Best history is the history that gets buried. 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: told the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All Right, 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: this goes, let's get into it. Balance in life is key. 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: Too much of anything is harmful. I love the Beatles, 26 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: and there was a time in my life when I 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: loved smoking grass. But if I locked myself in my 28 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: room all day, every day and did nothing but bong 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: hits and listened to John Paul Jorgian Ringo, the results. 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: Would not be good. 31 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I'd emerge from my bedroom all 32 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: googly eyed with ideas about Armageddon, race wars like Crazy Charlie. 33 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: No. 34 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: That would require much more than just weed. That would 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: also require LSD DMT. My overall point, however, I believe, holds. 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: If all I did was listened to the Beatles and 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: do drugs, I'd have less of a perspective on music, 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: on life, on whatever. 39 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: This is obvious. I don't have to tell you this. 40 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: If all I did, If I did all I. 41 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: Did was help, If what I was doing all the 42 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: time was healthy, If I was just lifting weights all 43 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: the time and eating protein, those things in excess wouldn't 44 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: be good either. 45 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: You need balance, Okay. 46 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: If all I did was watch Violent Gangster movies and 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: eat popcorn wishes, basically all I really want to do 48 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: in life. I'd have a warped view on society and 49 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: probably a little bit thicker. I'd be a little bit 50 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: thicker around the waist. You need balance. If all I 51 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: did was talking to this microphone to you guys and 52 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: write and record stories about crazy musicians and ignore my 53 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: wife and my kids in the process, I'd probably be 54 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: more successful, but I would also be less happy in life. 55 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: Balance Balance, Balance balance. A couple of years ago, a 56 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: teenage from Houston decided to make his own music to 57 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: accompany the YouTube videos that he was creating, videos that 58 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: were gaming montages displaying his Fortnite skills. Fortnite was his obsession. 59 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: Music was secondary, but soon that unhealthy obsession with video 60 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: games was transferred somewhat to music, and music became the 61 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: thing for this young gamer. He released a song on 62 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: TikTok and that song blew up, and then another and 63 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: that song blew up, and within no time he was 64 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: signed to Interscope Records. Now he has this burgeoning career, 65 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: and he took his foot off the gas a little bit, 66 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: reignited his first passion gaming while making music. The artist 67 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: never really abandoned his love for gaming, specifically for Fortnite, 68 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: a violent but not gory game for cartoonist shooting. I've 69 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: never played Fortnite, but for those of you who have, 70 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: and I'm not entirely accurate, I apologize, but I did 71 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: look into this today and I wanted to give you 72 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: an accurate depiction of this. For those of you who 73 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: don't know, Fortnite a lot of violence, but it's cartoonish. 74 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: It's not gory. 75 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: Certainly, there are other video games that go way further 76 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: with the violence than Fortnite. Fortnite is a game where 77 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: cartoonish shooting and combat are at the center of the 78 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: gamer's action. 79 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: The game is known. 80 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: To be highly quote unquote addictive. Okay, now, for we're 81 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 1: to believe some of the parents who allow their kids 82 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: to play Fortnite, and those parents who have raised concerns 83 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: about their kids being consumed by the game, addictive is 84 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: an understatement. Online, there are numerous stories about kids completely 85 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: disconnecting from not only their parents but from reality over 86 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: their obsession with the game Fortnite. Kids so addicted that 87 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: they literally cannot disconnect. They stop showering, they stop sleeping, 88 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: they stop eating. I am not a psychologist, I'm not 89 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: pretending to be, but you look, just go online look 90 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: this stuff up. Many have chimed in. There's lots of 91 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: online videos from psychologists, from people in the medical field 92 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: on the subject of the harmful nature of obsessive gaming. 93 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and tell you video games 94 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: are all baptism. That's not what I'm doing. Okay, again, 95 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: it's about balance and my point, my larger point is 96 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: this is specifically about Fortnite. So after hours upon hours 97 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: of violently eliminating, you know, understandably in a nongory way, 98 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: but still eliminating your enemies, it's not hard to imagine 99 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: a twisted reality presenting itself to the gamer. I spent 100 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: last weekend more. I spent four days more than the 101 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: weekend reorganizing my entire record collection. Every free moment I 102 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: had was spent alphabetizing records, staring at records, moving records around, 103 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: flipping through records, picking records up, putting records down, putting 104 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: records on show. I was taking the offshells. 105 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: Records, records, records, records, records. 106 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: When I went to bed at night and closed my eyes, 107 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: I literally saw vinyl. Okay, you know what I'm talking about. 108 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: Those of you who have worked on assembly lines, those 109 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: of you who have done tedious jobs, you know, as 110 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: part of your hobby or part of your labor, whatever 111 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: it is. You know, when you do something over and 112 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: over and over and over again, physically, you close your eyes, 113 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: that's what you see. The brain is impressionable. The brain 114 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: is fragile. The teenage brain is not yet fully formed. 115 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: The teenage artist that I'm referring to here, the one 116 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: obsessed with Fortnite. His name is David spelled D four 117 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: the Numeral four D four VD. In twenty twenty two, 118 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: at the age of seventeen, David took a break from 119 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: gaming and allegedly started dating a twelve year old named 120 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: Celeste Reeves. He also released a song that blew up 121 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: online at the same time, called Romantic Homicide. The lyrics go, 122 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I killed you and 123 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't even regret it. I can't believe I said it, 124 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: but it's true. 125 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: I hate you. A video for. 126 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: This song was released on Celeste Reevas's birthday, September seventh. 127 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: In April twenty twenty four, then fifteen year old Celeste 128 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: Revs went missing. David continued with his career, releasing an 129 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: album in the earlier part of this year twenty twenty five, 130 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: through Interscope, and touring a couple weeks ago this month. 131 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: In September of twenty twenty five, two towyard employees out 132 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles walked past an impounded tesla and noticed 133 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: a strong futrid smell. Authorities were called. The front truck 134 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: of the tesla was opened up and inside were the 135 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: dismembered remains of the missing fifteen year old Celeste Revs 136 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: the car. It has been reported that the car was 137 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: registered to David. Now David is cooperating with the police, 138 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: but the Internet is not cooperating with David. His alleged 139 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: online discord chats, some alleged to be with Celeste or 140 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: about a Celeste, have gone public. I can't verify if 141 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: they're true or not. I'm not going to speculate here, 142 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: but hey, you're free to search this up online. They're 143 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: easy to find. It was also discovered by online quote 144 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: unquote Sluice that David has an unreleased song allegedly and 145 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: its title is Celeste. And it's been reported that Celeste's 146 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: mother has verified that her now deceased fifteen year old 147 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: daughter had the same tattoo on her finger as David. 148 00:08:54,800 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: That tattoo reads shh. I don't know if this guy 149 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: David had anything to do with celest Revas's death, but 150 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: I know that we're going to find out soon. And 151 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: if David is responsible for the cruel and callous and 152 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: to celest Reevas's life, there's no telling yet why or 153 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: how something like this could happen. But in these early days, 154 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: this case reminds me of the Aaron Hernandez case, the 155 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: former New England patriot whose brain was so scrambled from 156 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: PCP and weed that he turned himself into a homicidal sociopath. 157 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: I was there when this news broke up in Boston. 158 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. It was truly unbelievable. You just couldn't 159 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: understand it. And now it's understandable because we've learned about 160 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: his life. We learned about the drugs he was taking, 161 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: we learned about the concussion stuff, the ct all that. 162 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: And there's something about how this story about Celeste Reevus 163 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: and David is unfolding that that just brings me back 164 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: to those days. I don't know why Celeste Revs was killed. 165 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody knows why besides the killer 166 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: right now. And like I said, I have no idea 167 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: if all this information that's out there right now adds 168 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: up to this guy David being responsible. I don't know 169 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: what could compel somebody to do something like this. Even 170 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: after all this time researching these episodes, trying to understand 171 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: this behavior, I'm left coolest. Some murderers, I suppose, are 172 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: just born bad. They're just born that way. There's evil, 173 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: and evil is sometimes like water, it finds its way. 174 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: I truly believe that. But I also believe that sometimes 175 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: outside influences impress upon the brain in ways that are 176 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: so strong that murderers are made. Now, is David a 177 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: murderer again, I don't know. I'm not going to sit 178 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: here and say that he is. Is he another musician 179 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: driven to kill through some mix of hubris and perhaps 180 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: video game induced violent fantasy in psychosis? I have no idea, 181 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: but I have my theories, and we're going to have 182 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: more on this story as it develops, because it's a 183 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: fascinating one, and I feel for the victim's family here. 184 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: I haven't read. Yeah, I'm just going to stop because 185 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: there's a lot out there. There's a lot to talk 186 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: about here, but this case is so fresh and we 187 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: have to be careful about what we talk about publicly. 188 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: But I invite you all to look into this online 189 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: and I'll keep bringing you news as it breaks, and 190 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: eventually there will for sure be an episode on this 191 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: story if David's involvement proves to be what people suspect 192 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: it to be. This right now already it reminds me 193 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: of an old school Disgrace Slaante episode, you know, the 194 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: whole art imitating life thing with Tak forty seven from 195 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: season one. I don't like Take's music, and I don't 196 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: like David's music either, for that matter. But there's plenty 197 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: of music from bad, bad men, as we say, and 198 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,119 Speaker 1: some women. 199 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: That I do like. And that's the subject of our. 200 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: Recommendation section that Zeth and I are diving into later 201 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: in the exclusive part of this episode for All Access 202 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: members on Patreon and Apple subscriptions. What music from truly 203 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: deplorable artists do we still love and that we would recommend, 204 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: even it's fucked up to think of it as like, 205 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm still still watching, you know, still listening to x 206 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: y z by that guy did that thing. But you know, 207 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm also recommending we're really pressing ourselves and challenging ourselves 208 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: here with the whole art versus artist thing. Zeth is 209 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: going to be approaching this from the film angle. What 210 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: films by or featuring demonstrably bad bad men and maybe 211 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: a few women can we. 212 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: Not do without? 213 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: And the answer to these questions, you know, I'll be 214 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: in the music side of it, like I said, coming 215 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: up in the exclusive section of this after party for 216 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: our all access members, just five dollars a month to 217 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: become a member at disgracelampod dot com slash membership before 218 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: prices go up. All right, Old Dirty Bastard is in 219 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: your feed right now, and you can use this episode, 220 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: this ODB episode as your introduction into the ten episode 221 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: story that we did on Wu Tang Clan coming up 222 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: next in your feed. Right after this, we're rewinding to 223 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: our Pantera and dime Bag Daryl episode. And then hey, 224 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: it's October, so that means we hear in Disgraceland are 225 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 1: unleashing a ton of Halloween related content to keep you 226 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: spooked all month beginning with our Part two episode on 227 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: led Zeppelin in the Haunting of Headley Grange, Jimmy Page 228 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: was on some other fucking level. People, You're not gonna 229 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: want to miss this, nor you're gonna want to miss 230 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: our new episodes on Judas Priest, Pentagram, and ac DC, 231 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: all coming in the next few weeks. And we're gonna 232 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: be rewinding our classic Halloween Disgracelam episodes all month on 233 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: artists like The Cramps, Brandon Lee, the Misfits and more. 234 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: All Right, when that Part two led Zeppelin episode hits, though, 235 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: like I said, an episode about Headley Grange, the haunting 236 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: of that studio, I want you guys to be thinking 237 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: about your run ins with haunted homes, haunted anything. 238 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: Really. 239 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: What are the spookiest things that have ever happened to you, guys? 240 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: Run ins with ghosts, seances, ouiji boards, life after death experiences. 241 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: Anything can be about. 242 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: You can be about you know, your family, your friends, 243 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: anything spooky that's happened to you. 244 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: Let us know. Let's kick off this October. 245 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: Right. You don't have to be Jimmy Page to give 246 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: me a call and give me your answers, but just 247 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: call let me know. Six one seven nine oh six 248 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: six six three eight spookiest shit that's gone on in 249 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: your lives? You might hear yourself on next week's after party. 250 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: I'll be back in a flash with your answers to last. 251 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: Week's question of the week. 252 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: All right, I've been doing a lot of complaining lately 253 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: about the lack of current quality music, biopics and documentaries. 254 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: But it's not all bad. I should mention, just for balance, okay, 255 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: that I caught some of the Live Aid documentary series 256 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: at CNN RAN and I got pulled into it. Not 257 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: enough to compel me to seek the series out and 258 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: watch it on my own, as opposed to just catching 259 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: it while surfing channels. But again, I did get pulled in, 260 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: and that's saying something. And I don't want to just 261 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: be a negative Nancy out here talking shit all the time. 262 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: I learned some things. I learned some things about Phil Collins. 263 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: I learned a lot about Bob Geldoff that I didn't know. 264 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: If you're interested in this time period of pop music, 265 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: since this is well worth your time, all right. 266 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: I was thinking. 267 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: About how I would have made that doc however, on 268 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: the same subject, and I should mention that though I'm 269 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: railing weekly against the corporate, algorithmic studio storytelling machine CASM. 270 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: Hey, we have shirts, by the way. 271 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: The fact remains that if a studio is going to 272 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: pay me to make a music documentary and give me 273 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: an opportunity to explore music history using my storytelling skills, 274 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump at the chance. I'm not trying to 275 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: be some crusspunk version of a podcaster here. I'm trying 276 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: to be the best fucking storyteller I can be in 277 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: whatever medium makes sense, and to reach as many people 278 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: as possible. And it's mainly because of what we've been 279 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: talking about here. Modern music culture bores the hell out 280 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: of me. Yet music history is something that my life 281 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: is centered around. And I know that's the same for 282 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: you guys as well, because you tell me so every day. 283 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: Crooked Rain got at us over on Patreon and hipped 284 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: us to this David Byrne directed movie True Stories. We 285 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: were talking about the greatest rock and roll movies. I've 286 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: never heard of this Jackie. On Patreon, she wrote, I 287 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: love this community. All the recks that have taken me 288 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: out of my music listening, film watching, comfort zone, discovering 289 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: new gems and rediscovering stuff I haven't listened to for ages. 290 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure we are all open to more, especially from 291 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: you quieter or discos. I know some of us are 292 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: very very vocal, but please don't be shy. I encourage 293 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: you to please give us your recommendations and thoughts. And 294 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: you know when Jackie posted that, the comments underneath that 295 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: post filled up with recommendations from the disco community, including 296 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: an audiobook I've never heard of, narrated my ghost Face 297 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: Taylor I believe, recommended that. There's a book an autobiography 298 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: by Rodney James Dial. I didn't know about this. I 299 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: never heard of this recommended by Kathy m If modern 300 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: music culture, if modern music culture, if it bores you, okay, 301 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: if you're interested in obsessing over music history with like 302 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: minded obsessives, then jump into the chat on Patreon and 303 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: introduce yourself to the larger disco community. As I mentioned before, 304 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: joining our little club is only five bucks a month 305 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: and not only gets you into the Patreon chat here 306 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: that I'm talking about, but unlocks exclusive content and ad 307 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: for you listening. Sign up on Patreon or subscribe through 308 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: your Apple podcast app. All right, I'm in the phone 309 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: booth at the moment, the one across the hall hanging 310 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: on the telephone. It's crowded this week. Let's check out 311 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: this message from the eight oh eight where the hell's 312 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: eight oh eight Hawaii. Anyway, let's listen. 313 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 4: Hey, how's going love the show? 314 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: I just saw listen to your bonus episode and you 315 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 3: were talking about that. Somebody did two episodes in The 316 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: Grateful Dead and not knowing you might have done it. 317 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: But Fish Trey Anastasia keeping in the. 318 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 4: Jam band scene. 319 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: He had a rough time, almost died with addiction, and 320 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 3: Fish is kind of a crazy ass band. Love him 321 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: or hate him, some people do. Some people think they're cheesy, 322 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 3: but I think it's definitely an episode that you should make. Thanks, 323 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: have great day, Aloha out here in Hawaii. 324 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: My friend in the eight oh eight. 325 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: We are currently at this moment putting together a Phish 326 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: episode as we speak, and of course, right here as 327 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: we're doing it, there was this news about a fatal 328 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: stabbing at a fish show in Virginia last week week. 329 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: This is not part of the story that we were 330 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: planning on telling, similar to how the Bumfardo piece of 331 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: the Jimmy Buffett story wasn't something that really fit into 332 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: our episode. So we've got this problem. We've had this 333 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: problem since the beginning of time. How do we cover all. 334 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: The interesting bits in these artists stories? 335 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: And next week I'm here to tell you now that 336 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna have an announcement next week on how we're 337 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: gonna be dealing with this issue. It's a solution that's 338 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: going to result in something cool for you guys, So 339 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: keep an eye on your podcast feed for that info. 340 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: But yes, eight o eight, we've got a fish episode 341 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: and even more fish content coming your way. All right, 342 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: let's hear from Morty in the two seven six on 343 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: great rock and roll movies. 344 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: Hello, Jacobs is Morty from the two seven to six. 345 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 4: I've been listening to both Disgraced Land and Hollywood Land 346 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 4: for months now. It keeps me well entertain while I 347 00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 4: work a graveyard shift part time at Cracker Burrow. Fantastic. 348 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 4: I just want to say a rock and roll movie 349 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 4: that that should be mentioned is Beyond the Valley of 350 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 4: the Dolls Bruce Myers Joint. Just it's rock and roll 351 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: to the core. It's a parody of Hollywood. You got 352 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 4: an all female group rock band before there was female 353 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: rock bands. The soundtrack is just kick ass. You know. 354 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 4: I can't believe nobody's mentioned it, but yeah, I think 355 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 4: that should be mentioned, which was made back in nineteen 356 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 4: seventy and was supposed to be the sequel to Valley 357 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: of the Dolls but became something totally different. I guess 358 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: that's all I got. Talk to you later, by. 359 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 2: Morty, my man. 360 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 1: Thanks for taking us with you to work at night. 361 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: Grateful to be keeping your company on those long overnight shifts. 362 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm sad to say that I've never seen Beyond the 363 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: Valley of the Dolls. 364 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I know, disgraceful. I need to 365 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: see it. 366 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: Maybe I can talk my wife into watching it with 367 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: me this weekend on your recommendation. 368 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: Thank you, Mordy. Let's read this text from the. 369 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: Nine to one four on the same topic. This is 370 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: Stace answering your question about rock and roll movie recommendations. 371 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: My number one is trained spotting That opening scene of 372 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: a gangly, young, buzz cut, fuzzy headed Ian McGregor running 373 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: down the street to Iggy Pop's lust for life is 374 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: nothing short of iconic, and of course that choose life 375 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: monologue delivered by a junkie has lived rent Free in 376 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: my head since the film came out in the mid nineties. 377 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: What's more rock and roll than Heroin to do? Okay, 378 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: love your pop. I've been listening since his debut and 379 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: even want to post her for tweeting about it, which 380 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: I forgot to collect. But I'm sure the ship has sailed. Ps. 381 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: Here is my plea for more coverage of female music 382 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: artists behaving badly. It's got to be more out there 383 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: than Amy Winehouse. You know what, and she said, Lana 384 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: tol right, you're right, she says PPS. I absolutely loved 385 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: how you framed the Britain the episode Truth is better 386 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: than tabloid fiction. 387 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: Stace. 388 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: We're putting together our programming for next year and two things. 389 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: We're going heavy into stories about women. 390 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: In the past. 391 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: The problem has are has been that women just started 392 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: as fucked up as dudes and they haven't behaved as badly. 393 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: But however I found a way in. And the second. 394 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: Piece here that you might appreciate is we're working on 395 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: a way to bring you guys more fully into the 396 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: process of helping us choose these stories. So we'll have 397 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: more on that soon, but headline more female artists coming 398 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: your way. In disgrace, lam programming all right, three. 399 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: H two Right San. 400 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy eight, a movie came out called American 401 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: Hot Wax. I was all of six or eight years 402 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: old when it was released on television, so I may 403 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: be misremembering some things, but it was about Alan Freed 404 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: and probably my introduction to rock. It's got all the 405 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: bangers in it and screaming Jay Hawkins performance, and it 406 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: blew my mind. But it had all the good stuff, 407 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: teams dancing in defiance, races, mingling with each other, and 408 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: cops trying to shut it all down. 409 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: Another great one. 410 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: Was released in nineteen eighty ish called Times Square, a 411 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: great soundtrack to young girls escaping a mental health hospital 412 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: and in general raising hell and. 413 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 2: Upsetting the public. 414 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: I've heard of American Hot Wax, I've probably seen clips 415 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: from it. Never heard of the nineteen eighty ish film 416 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: Times Square, but I'm highly intrigued. 417 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 2: This sounds fantastic. I love that era of New York. 418 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: I just love looking at it on film, especially when 419 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: there's some sort of pop, punk, rock and crime angle 420 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: to it. So I'm gonna check Times Square out three 421 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: h two. Thank you very much, your your I don't 422 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: know why, but Times Square nineteen eighty ish reminds me. 423 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: Of of Over the Edge, a great rock. 424 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: And roll movie that's not about music that came out 425 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: I think late seventies, might have been seventy eight seventy 426 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: nine Matt Dillon's first movie or second movie. 427 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 428 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: Maybe Tex was his first movie. It's one of those, 429 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: but it's fantastic, incredible soundtrack Over the Edge. Check that 430 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: out and check out Times Square on recommendation from the 431 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: three to ZO two and oh before I go, speaking 432 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 1: of Over the Edge and beyond the value of the dolls, 433 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: we have new hats and t shirts that would fit 434 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: well on the characters in both of these movies. That 435 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: means they look good on you as well. All right, 436 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: but you gotta move quick as our trucker hat or 437 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: just say no to chasm shirts and our hoodies. They're 438 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: going bye bye in a couple of days. This merch 439 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: sale comes to an end on September thirtieth, perhaps even 440 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: earlier if sizes and supplies do not last, So hit 441 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: up shop disgraceland dot com to grab yours, or just 442 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: head over to our website justgracelandpod dot com. I'm running 443 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: out of time right now, so no emails this week. 444 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll read them on the Patreon chat in a 445 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: video or something in a couple of days. I'll be 446 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: back in a flash, though. 447 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: Hang tight. 448 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: I love Paul Newman. I love Paul Newman so much. 449 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: What an incredible actor. Two thousand and eight, when he died, 450 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: I was driving home from a gig in New York 451 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: with my band Bodega Girls, and we were driving through Connecticut, 452 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: and we got home way late or early in the morning, 453 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: I should say, I went to bed, woke up next 454 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: day I found out he died. And I've always thought, 455 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, this is so silly and stupid to think, 456 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: but you know, driving home from New York to Boston, 457 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: I always thought, maybe Paul Newman passed away as we 458 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: were driving through Connecticut. And I don't know why that 459 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: matters to me. I have no reason for it at all. 460 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: It's just a weird, little trivial thing that I always 461 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: think of when I think of Paul Newman. I have 462 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: great affection for the man as an actor. Slapshot is 463 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: one of my favorite movies of all time, and Paul 464 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: Newman is the subject. As you know of or some 465 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: of you know of this week's Hollywood Land episode. And 466 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: here's a little taste of our man, doctor Lundy talking 467 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: about Paul in this week's Hollywood Land Rap Party episode. 468 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 5: Robert Redford and Paul Newman were very similar when it 469 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 5: came to philanthropy. You know, Redford was all about the environment. 470 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 5: Newman was all about people, specifically about sick kids, kids 471 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 5: with serious illnesses. He started this company, Newman's Own in 472 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 5: nineteen eighty two, which was a food business that began 473 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 5: with just salad dressing and eventually moved on to like pasta, sauce, 474 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 5: olive oil, pizza, popcorn, cookies, coffee tea. I'm sure you 475 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 5: see the stuff in the supermarket all the time. Quick 476 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 5: shout out to his pasta sauce Sokker Rooney, which is 477 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 5: an all theimer for me. But anyways, my point here 478 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 5: is that when he started this company in eighty. 479 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 2: Two, he was laughed at. 480 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 5: It was like, look at this vain actor putting his 481 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 5: face on a salad dressing label and all that. But 482 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 5: then when people saw what it was really about, that 483 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 5: this company was putting one hundred percent of their profits 484 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 5: into programs that benefited kids with serious illnesses that benefited 485 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 5: school food programs. It was like, holy shit, No, no 486 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 5: actor has ever pulled this off before. And keep in 487 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 5: mind the nonprofits that Newman's own helps fund includes this 488 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 5: network of summer camps for kids with serious illnesses that was, 489 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 5: you know, founded back in the late eighties, and according 490 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 5: to one camp counselor who worked there, Paul Newman would 491 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 5: visit every week just to hang out with the kids, 492 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 5: not for photo ops with the press, not for a 493 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 5: pat on the back. He did it because he just 494 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 5: believed in what the company was doing, and he believed 495 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 5: in helping other people. And you know, this isn't to 496 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 5: say the guy was perfect, because he wasn't. Part of 497 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 5: being authentic like that is that it's a warts and 498 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 5: all thing, you know, And if you want a really 499 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 5: in depth look at that, I highly recommend you check 500 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 5: out this documentary series that was on HBO from a 501 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 5: few years back called The Last Movie Stars, which is 502 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 5: about Paul Newman and his wife Joanne Woodward, directed by 503 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 5: Ethan Hawk. 504 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: Guys, make sure you're following Hollywood Land on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 505 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,719 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcast. Paul Newman had this 506 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: ornery side to him that I just loved. And like 507 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: I said, he lived in Connecticut. Connecticut is technically New England, 508 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: I think of it more is New York. I don't 509 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: think Paul Newman was a New England sports fan, but 510 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: that ornery side of him would have fit perfectly for 511 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots nation. 512 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: Right now, God trying to root for the Patriots this season. 513 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: All right, before I get too far, I got to 514 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: tell you that the sixty second sports a ranting under 515 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: thirty seconds is once again sponsored by five Hour Energy. 516 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: Five Hour Energy shots bring tasty caffeine in seventeen flavors. 517 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: Head to your local retailer www. 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I can't get over how good we had 529 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: it back in the day. Brady Belichick, I can't believe 530 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: this is what we're left to root for every freaking Sunday. 531 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: Matt, How'd I do? Twenty eight seconds? 532 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 4: Jake? 533 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: Nice? Work? All right? 534 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: At least somebody in New England knows how to put 535 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: together a w That was the sports rant sponsored by 536 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: five Hour Energy. Enjoy a variety of bold flavors with 537 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: as much caffeine as a twelve hours Premium cup of coffee, 538 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: but zero sugar and zero crash. 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Okay, we're 545 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: not just qualify by saying, yeah. 546 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: You know he was a fuck up, but you know 547 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: he made some good We're. 548 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: Telling you what exactly they made that you need to 549 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: listen to, and ideally it's stuff that you haven't listened 550 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: to or watched, and we're hopefully bringing shining a light 551 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: on some content that you're not familiar with that's coming 552 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: up right now. To get in on that hot nuanced 553 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: art versus artist action, however, you're gonna go to disgracelandpod 554 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: dot com slash membership and sign up to become an 555 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: all access member to unlock this content. 556 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: All right. 557 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: You're also unlocking more exclusive content and ad for you listening, 558 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: all for just five bucks a month before that price 559 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: goes up. So sign up to become an all Access 560 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: member now for just five bucks a month on Apple 561 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: and Patreon before. 562 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 2: Prices go up. All right, we are back. We're about 563 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: to land. This plane. 564 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: Mentioned a bunch of Disgraceland subjects in this episode, as 565 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: we do every week, and we want to point you 566 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: guys to the archive. You want to hear stories on 567 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: who we mentioned today. Take K forty seven talking heads 568 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: we mentioned in the exclusive section. We talked about Miles Davis, 569 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: talked about the Killer, Bill Wyman. So you can hear 570 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: episodes on all those artists and their respective bands, groups, etc. 571 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: In the archive. Matt we'll have in our show notes. 572 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: He'll have the episode info so you can easily navigate 573 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: your way through our two hundred and fifty episode archive. 574 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: All right, let's recap, shall we. Number one, this week's 575 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: full episode on Oh Dirty Bastard. It is available for 576 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: you right now. 577 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: Number two. 578 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: Next coming up in your feed is our Dimebag Darryl 579 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: episode dime from Pantera. That's in the rewind spot. Number 580 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: three coming next week, Part two of our led Zeppelin story, 581 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: The Haunting of Headley Grange, number four on Hollywood Land. 582 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: Right now, mister Paul Newman number five, six one seven 583 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. Your voice keeps 584 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: us digging into the dark corners of music history. So 585 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: keep calling, texting with your answers to the week's question 586 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: of the week, or talk to me about whatever else 587 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: you want to talk about, all right, get at me 588 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: number six. Don't forget guys. This isn't just content. It's 589 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: a community, a community for the obsessed, for the discos. 590 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: No one cares about music, books, records in the crime 591 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: and grime that ties them all together like you do. 592 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: And well that's a disgrace. All right on. 593 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: Remember thirteenth, two thousand and four, Old Dirty Bastard passed away. 594 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: Here's what America was listening to on that day. According 595 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: to the bill Board Charts. Number one my Boo Usher 596 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: and Alisha Keys last week one, peak position one weeks 597 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: on chart ten. Number two, Drop It Like It's Hot 598 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: my Snoop Dogg featuring Pharrell, last week seven, peak position 599 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: number three, Goodies Seatra featuring pe Pablo, My week's on charts, 600 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: number four, Lose My Breath Destiny's Child last week three, 601 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: peak position number three weeks on Chart It's Hot number five, 602 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: Over and Over featuring Tim Lebron Weeks last week five. 603 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: The positions He Said five weeks on Truck five, five 604 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: or six music. 605 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: Quit talking and start mixing. 606 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 3: Could