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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bowl Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Hell us do Alive on a first Friday Miracle edition

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Speaker 2: to clear the Browns Daily merely bo give me returns.

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Speaker 2: You made it, buddy, No no distressing flights. You're back.

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Speaker 2: You're better than ever.

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Speaker 3: I would say this, I feel like you made it.

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Speaker 3: For the last two days, We've made it.

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Speaker 2: We made it.

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Speaker 3: Wow, we're I'm happy it all worked out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's safe. Nothing to see, No no problems with

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Speaker 2: no flight issues though, you were easy and yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's so, get through security, no problems. I love my

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Speaker 3: in laws, God bless them. But you know, there are

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Speaker 3: two eighty five year olds. That's right, Like I mean,

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Speaker 3: it is it is a wheel it is a wheelchair. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: parade at the gate, yep, you know I mean, and

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Speaker 3: they're sitting in these wheelchairs.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: It's about ten minutes before boarding and I casually walk

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Speaker 3: by the window. Now, luckily it's a day that there

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Speaker 3: are not a lot of flights going out and pretty quiet.

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Speaker 2: Day actually in the airport. Yeah, I look over.

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Speaker 3: And I go, huh, that's probably not a good thing.

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Speaker 3: As they are jacking up the front of the plane

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Speaker 3: to replace the two front tires. Wow, on a plane

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Speaker 3: you're supposed to get on yes, Oh jeez, I'm like, no,

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Speaker 3: you know what, go ahead and take your time out

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Speaker 3: on that because that one you can't.

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Speaker 2: We can't have an issue there.

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Speaker 2: I think I've ever seen that on a tarmac.

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Speaker 3: Gods speed, They've replaced two wheels in thirty five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we only ended up being delayed for about an

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Speaker 3: hour because there were two hundred and forty people on

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Speaker 2: No, but he pays attention. Everybody's well, they've put us

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Speaker 2: in this spot with the overhead compartments because nobody wants

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Speaker 2: and they charge you for it. So everybody tries to

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Speaker 2: jam things into the overhead compartments and so there's not

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Speaker 2: enough space up there. The newer planes have enough space,

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Speaker 2: Like if you begin a new plane, they have huge

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Speaker 2: so because there's not enough space. It's this mad rush

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Speaker 2: And it's funny when you were saying that about the wheelchairs.

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Speaker 2: God bless your in laws. The last time that we

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Speaker 2: out of Fort Launderdale, and you know that's elderly people

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Speaker 2: great place to retire. And so there were fifteen wheelchairs

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Speaker 2: on our flight back here trying to get on like

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Speaker 2: it was like they're all on, just in line, like

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Speaker 2: how it happens. It's funny. My dad is delayed. He's

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Speaker 2: flying in today and he was he's delayed. His flight

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Speaker 2: from Denver to here is delayed three hours. So instead

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Speaker 2: in at six. I can monitor all of this because

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Speaker 2: I have I booked it for him via the app,

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Speaker 2: the United App, so I can see like where he's going,

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Speaker 2: so before he even knew that there was problems, I

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Speaker 2: was singing to myself, like, is there anything I can

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Speaker 2: only thing I could have done is head him fly

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Speaker 2: it's hardly worth it. So then I was just bracing

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming it is weather related, given the weather in

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Speaker 2: Well, sure, that's what they're saying. Anyway, I'm sure that

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Speaker 2: there was a flight that was headed to Denver from

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Speaker 2: on that plane coming back. I'm certain of it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was my buddy's down in Central Ohio like they were.

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Speaker 2: That was a kind of a scary night for them.

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Speaker 2: For an hour, it was tornado warnings everywhere and they

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Speaker 3: Everything was south. I didn't get a drop. My wife.

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Speaker 3: This morning's like we've been gone for four days. It

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Speaker 3: looks like it hasn't rained in four days, Like we

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Speaker 2: You told me it was going to rain last night.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I all indications said.

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Speaker 2: We was buckle in, honey, because it's about too it's

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Speaker 2: about ready to go peak grass growing season. It's about

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Speaker 2: to be in the fifties and rain for like four

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Speaker 2: days in a row. This was like the one day

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Speaker 2: my dad was here where the weather was going to

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Speaker 2: be good. So we're gonna grill out tonight and you

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Speaker 2: know kind of enjoy the festivities outside. Well, that shot

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Speaker 2: to hell, and no, you should be good. Well he'll

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Speaker 2: be inside, correct, Yes, provided the plane actually takes off

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Speaker 2: at one and all of those things, then we would

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Speaker 2: be okay. At least, you know, i'd have him back,

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Speaker 2: you know, back over here around six thirty something like that.

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Speaker 2: But like you know, we're supposed to get in three,

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Speaker 2: so then we could have kind of enjoyed a little bit,

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Speaker 2: but like the next three days are brutal, Like it's

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Speaker 2: And we've got Bert Bootsy's first communion coming up on

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Speaker 2: a lot going on. Speaking of a lot going on, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we can head out on the Twisted Tea Hard iced

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Speaker 2: Tea Hotline. Twisted Tea official sponsor, Love your Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 2: keep it Twisted Cleveland. He his boots on the ground

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Speaker 2: and honestly, kind of a war torn region of the country,

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Speaker 2: and that is Napa Valley, Sonoma Valley. How you doing

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Speaker 2: over there, buddy, You're thriving, are surviving? Are you getting

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Speaker 2: through it? It's a tough place to be for an

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thriving, thriving.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: I'm back. I'm ready to be back.

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Speaker 5: I'll be back to you tomorrow in studio.

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Speaker 6: I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: What where are you right now?

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Speaker 6: And back in Cleveland.

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Speaker 7: I took the Red Eye in.

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Speaker 2: This I thought you were still on Napa.

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Speaker 8: No, we had there.

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Speaker 2: It is there.

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Speaker 5: It is good, good to talk with you.

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Speaker 6: Give me welcome back.

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Speaker 2: He made it on time.

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Speaker 6: Good for you.

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Speaker 7: I'm red eyed, red eyed, which is rough.

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Speaker 2: That's a rough.

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Speaker 7: As I become an aged man, that's a rough. That's

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Speaker 7: a rough situation. But yeah, red eyed back. We're back,

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Speaker 7: getting my bearings and then ready to ready to hit

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Speaker 7: the ground on a first first Monday, first Friday tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: So you are you flew it? So I was on

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Speaker 2: that Red Eye with the boys home from when we

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Speaker 2: came back from Hawaii from San Francisco here, and that's

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Speaker 2: the one where Boots he didn't sleep at all, like

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Speaker 2: he just watched movies the whole time, and I just

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Speaker 2: kept looking at him, going, this is gin In poorly

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Speaker 2: took him? Like ten days were you able to sleep

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Speaker 7: It was the Hawaiian flight too. It was the Hawaii flight. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: and our plane was from Hawaii. And then there are

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Speaker 7: some people who had went the whole that is it's

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Speaker 7: a brutal return.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'll never do that again if I ever go

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Speaker 2: there again, I'm gonna go to like I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: like either drive to Detroit and go direct or I'm

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Speaker 2: doing the Chicago thing. I'm not going I'm not doing

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Speaker 2: two six hour bombs. I'm not doing that again.

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Speaker 7: It's too much.

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Speaker 2: No, so tomorrow you'll regale us with your your tails.

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Speaker 7: Yes, now probably a little filtered unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: But yes, Okay, so we know that Pedro is going

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Speaker 2: to be listening tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: Is he listening now?

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Speaker 2: Is there anything that we could get off her chest? Now?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 7: I don't we need?

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Speaker 2: Do we need?

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Speaker 7: Copper time problems?

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Speaker 2: So we get Okay, I could get.

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Speaker 4: We got a lot to get through them.

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Speaker 7: What's happening, what's coming on the air, So he he'll well,

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Speaker 7: he's ready for it.

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Speaker 2: Well we're going to talk about him, so he'll love that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, the start of his own shove.

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Speaker 2: Why.

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Speaker 7: In fact, I have decided more than ever that he

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Speaker 7: absolutely needs to reality show.

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Speaker 2: Well, there are certain networks that he would thrive at.

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Speaker 7: Yes, yes, that one should pick him up. I mean,

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Speaker 7: and I thought perhaps a him.

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Speaker 3: And alpha male like but he Caught show.

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Speaker 7: Would be incredible.

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Speaker 2: I did see an image from the great documentary and

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Speaker 2: Miss K of the four of you toasting something and

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Speaker 2: his joy in his face, And then I did notice

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Speaker 2: miss K kind of like glancing over at his joy, ye,

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Speaker 2: which I found it to be humorous.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, some pure joy on his part.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. It was it was. It was

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Speaker 2: a great trip.

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Speaker 7: Honestly all things, it could not have gone better. It

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Speaker 2: Who are you playing with the kid?

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Speaker 2: Everybody loves a forceing with the boys. Good job to you.

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Speaker 2: back on contending teams and in our division specifically. My god,

439
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Speaker 2: the questions at quarterback in Cincinnati, here in Pittsburgh Baltimore

440
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Speaker 2: is what it is. They've had their own attrition on

441
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Speaker 2: the defensive side with both their staff and players. But

442
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 2: Cincinnati getting Borrow back healthy. The answer to that for

443
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 2: him was putting on weight, getting stronger, more muscle. For

444
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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson, we'll know it when we see it. You know,

445
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Speaker 2: that's a major shoulder surgery that he had. What does

446
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 2: that look like? You'll hopefully get a look at it

447
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,120
Speaker 2: within the next month here, once these mandatory mini camps

448
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 2: ramp up. We know that he feels good, we know

449
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 2: he looks good. We just haven't seen it. And then

450
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, honestly, like this is a story that is

451
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 2: not getting enough attention. What exactly is their plan for

452
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 2: those two quarterbacks? They got them both for bargain basement

453
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Speaker 2: next to nothing. Neither one is committed to Pittsburgh next year.

454
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Speaker 2: It feels like Wilson's gonna start, but they have to

455
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 2: see what they have in fields, do they not? Doesn't

456
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Speaker 2: he have to play some in the regular season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, even if it's going well your option, which

458
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Speaker 3: I was surprised by.

459
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Speaker 2: Even if even if it's going well for Wilson give

460
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Speaker 2: me and I think it will. I mean, I think

461
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Speaker 2: if you think about what they did last year with

462
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Speaker 2: with why my blank on a picket? Think what they

463
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 2: did last year with Pickett, Wilson was demonstratively better than

464
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Speaker 2: that in Denver last year. So if you get Wilson

465
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Speaker 2: from last year in pitch, they're going to be better off.

466
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Speaker 2: But Wilson does not have the ceiling anymore that justin

467
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Speaker 2: Fields did. So if it's going well for Wilson, can

468
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Speaker 2: you really bench him at some point to just see

469
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Speaker 2: if Fields can play? Probably not. So Tomlin's going to

470
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Speaker 2: manage all of that, and that thing is a mess.

471
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Speaker 2: I'm glad it's their problem, not ours. They could have

472
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: two very good solutions, but I think navigating it in

473
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Speaker 2: that locker room where you know Fields is going to

474
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Speaker 2: be more popular in the locker room than Wilson, no question.

475
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Speaker 2: So like, how do you manage that room and that team?

476
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: They are really good everywhere huge question mark there though,

477
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Speaker 2: And I think to me that's the one that's most

478
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Speaker 2: fascinating because with Burrow and our guy, it's just we

479
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Speaker 2: just have to see him be healthy. That's you know,

480
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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, And I think we've made a lot about it.

482
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Speaker 3: But then if you want to talk Ravens, the number

483
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Speaker 3: of people that they have lost from coaches to players

484
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Speaker 3: doesn't seem to be a story in the National Football

485
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Speaker 3: League except in our radio show. Maybe it should be

486
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Speaker 3: a bigger conversation piece.

487
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Speaker 2: Well, we talk about it from the perspective of I

488
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: think the reason for that is they've got Lamar and

489
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Speaker 2: they've got Harbaugh, and they've got Mounkin. So the combination

490
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Speaker 2: of that is enough that they can overcome. And I

491
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Speaker 2: just think also for them, I mean, quite frankly, it's

492
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Speaker 2: quite like the Steelers at all their position players. They

493
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 2: do such a great job of drafting and developing that

494
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Speaker 2: you just believe that whoever they're going to plug in

495
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Speaker 2: is going to be ready to go because they've done.

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Speaker 8: It for twenty years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it, but I still think there's something

498
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Speaker 3: to it. The number of coaches that left on that

499
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Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball it's an extremely So this

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Speaker 3: is the note.

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Speaker 2: I found a note.

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Speaker 3: And best division in the National Football League from Warren

503
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Speaker 3: Sharp winning percentage non division games since twenty twenty. Yeah,

504
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 3: number one, sixty three percent AFC North one O six

505
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Speaker 3: and sixty three. The next huge gap like the next

506
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Speaker 3: best division the NFC West at fifty five percent, ninety

507
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Speaker 3: four and seventy eight.

508
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like it. It is.

509
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 3: All four teams are positioned once again to make a run,

510
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Speaker 3: but each team has a question there and it's a

511
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Speaker 3: big question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I think this was a shook yesterday

513
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: when we were He and I were kind of going

514
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,479
Speaker 2: through the rosters, and I said, you and you out

515
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 2: there can believe me or not on this, but this

516
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 2: is fact. I'm certain of it. I feel very strongly

517
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Speaker 2: about this part. You could walk into any of the

518
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Speaker 2: facilities of the four teams in the AFC North and

519
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: you could say what is your expectation next year, and

520
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: every one of them would say, go in the Super Bowl.

521
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 2: They all believe that they have it. They all believe

522
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Speaker 2: that they have rosters that can do it. Pittsburgh's believes

523
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: that they've found an answer at quarterback, and they know

524
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Speaker 2: they have all the rest of the questions answered. Cincinnati

525
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 2: believes Burrow can be healthy. They know if he's healthy,

526
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Speaker 2: they can go. Baltimore was in the AFC Championship Game

527
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Speaker 2: last year. They've got Lamar, They've got Monkin, they've got Harbaugh.

528
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Speaker 2: Over top of all of it, they added Derrick Henry.

529
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Speaker 2: They believe they can wake a couple more plays and

530
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Speaker 2: beat Kansas City if it plays out that way. We

531
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Speaker 2: went eleven and five playing seventy five quarterbacks. Imagine if

532
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 2: we just got to play one, we went eleven and

533
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Speaker 2: five playing sixty five tackles. Imagine if we could only

534
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Speaker 2: play two, we went eleven and five, eleven and six

535
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Speaker 2: rather without Nick Chubb from week two on, we changed

536
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Speaker 2: on the fly who we were and still went eleven

537
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Speaker 2: and six. So if we could play with our full disposal,

538
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: our full arsenal, or even most of it for for

539
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: majority of the season, hell yeah, go win the Super Bowl.

540
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you right. Watson believes whether you listen

541
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Speaker 2: to his podcast or he had when he had coach on,

542
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: you talk to people, he believes he's he's good, He's

543
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Speaker 2: going like he believes. What happened that second half against

544
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Speaker 2: Baltimore that that's who he is now going forward and

545
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: if he is, okay, now you're talking, so yeah, best

546
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Speaker 2: division football. I don't think it's particularly close. I suppose

547
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: the AFC East would be second, but the bottom with

548
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Speaker 2: New England is so bad.

549
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Speaker 3: It's interesting. The last place conference with non divisional winning

550
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Speaker 3: percentage in non division games. The AFC South, yeah, second

551
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Speaker 3: to last, the NFC South.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: From the top down, it's AFC North, NFC West, AFC West,

554
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Speaker 3: and then AFC East, NFC and NFC North, which is interesting.

555
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Speaker 2: Those will change though. The NFC North has gotten a

556
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: lot better with what they've done in I mean, the

557
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: Bears are going to be a deal, So NFC North

558
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: has gotten a lot better. The NFC West has gotten

559
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: a little weaker, right, No, Aaron Donald. The other one

560
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Speaker 2: is the AFC West. I mean a year ago this

561
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Speaker 2: time you would have said, there's no reason Denver can't go.

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Speaker 2: Kansas City's Kansas City, the Chargers with Herbert, although they're

563
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 2: in cat purgatory now, and then the Raiders with Garoppolo formidable.

564
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Speaker 2: Now all of that's up in the air out there.

565
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Speaker 2: So that division went from last year a year ago

566
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Speaker 2: saying maybe that's the best division in football to shoot,

567
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Speaker 2: that might be well down the list.

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Speaker 3: Well, and now you've got the division that you watch

569
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Speaker 3: is the AFC South. Yeah, four quality quarterbacks potentially.

570
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. If Richardson goes, If Richardson goes, that's going

571
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: to be a snake pit.

572
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Speaker 3: I mean, if Levis can be the guy that, Yeah,

573
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: he showed, that showed some signs, no doubt. I mean,

574
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: you got Lawrence and Jacksonville. I mean that you got

575
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: a lot of young quarterbacks that if they can they

576
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Speaker 3: can show what they're made of.

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Speaker 2: And he's kind of the one that I thought. I

578
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: know that the first year with Urban was brutal, but

579
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Speaker 2: I thought it'd be a little further along. Agreed.

580
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Speaker 3: They It trended that way for the first half of

581
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Speaker 3: the season, and then the second half it Yeah, not

582
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Speaker 3: so fast.

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Speaker 2: That one really fell apart, all right. Tyvas Paler gonna

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Speaker 2: join us at two o'clock. We'll do a little high

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Speaker 2: or lower coming up at two thirty. A fascinating thing

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Speaker 2: happening in the sports media world today. Then we'll get

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Speaker 2: into coming up in about fifteen minutes. Coming up next.

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Speaker 2: It went kind of the way that I thought yesterday

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Speaker 2: Good. Happy, Now we'll go to a hot ticket. The

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Speaker 2: last night was not a hot ticket. When Cavaliers give

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Speaker 2: me no.

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Speaker 3: Game seven was amazing. Watched it in the pub in

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Speaker 3: Florida with my with my father in law.

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 3: Had some tears, celebrated, started talking some trash, maybe to

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623
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Speaker 3: I could have made in life. But it's who just

624
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Speaker 3: friendly banter.

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Speaker 2: You're like, you know, like Kramer Kramer when he goes

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Speaker 2: to Del Boca Vista and is running things. You're running

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Speaker 2: your mouth to a bunch of retirees.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely well, they were all like, we want Orlando, I

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Speaker 3: go no one roots for Orlando, talking about get out

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Speaker 3: of here, Evan that you're right, nobody does no no,

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Speaker 3: And they just didn't have an answer for that. It's true,

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Speaker 3: that was fun. Last night was not so fun.

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Speaker 2: This is what I think's hard about this, So I'll

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Speaker 2: pose this question to you. I posed it to Paulus

635
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Speaker 2: on Monday when he and I were chatting about it.

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Speaker 2: It's very long odds that the Cavs are going to

637
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Speaker 2: win this series. Clearly they are a distant from the

638
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Speaker 2: Celtics in terms of an operation. Would you rather have

639
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: a six or seven game series where every game was

640
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Speaker 2: like the one last night, even some that you won,

641
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Speaker 2: or would you rather have a gentleman's sweep where every

642
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Speaker 2: game was competitive like the Lakers and Nuggets. Every game

643
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: in Lakers Nuggets went down to the last minute. They

644
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: were all great games. This one even if this played

645
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Speaker 2: out seven, this is a twenty five point victory for Boston,

646
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: so it goes to seven games, but there's not one

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Speaker 2: competitive game all like this one.

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Speaker 3: That's tough because part of me is, like six or

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Speaker 3: seven games, you you think you've outplayed your uh, yourselves.

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00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: I think I think you're you've done, You've exceeded expectations

651
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: at that point. But I mean, last night was not watchable. No,

652
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Speaker 3: it was. It was brutal to watch the play by

653
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Speaker 3: play on the call of the game. He seemed bored.

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Speaker 3: It came across that he was bored.

655
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Speaker 2: Who was on it? I you know, we had everyone

656
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: is running around and we beamsy had so we kind

657
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: of paratrooped in late.

658
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look it up. He was not and he's

659
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 3: I think he does baseball for them.

660
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: And it's Turner, right, it was Turner game last night. Yeah.

661
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: You could tell like he was not really into it.

662
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they must have put did they put Harlan

663
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: on the okay, Dallas. I used to like it better

664
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: when one of them was on ESPN and the other

665
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: was on NBC.

666
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and keV thank you. I knew Greg Anthony was

667
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: on Color for Argument last night and he kept saying,

668
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 3: gotta go here, gotta go for the Cavs, gotta go Yeah,

669
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: and there was no going because you didn't score a

670
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: point in the first six minutes of the second quarter.

671
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: It was over in the I mean it's by the

672
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: third it's done.

673
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 8: It's cooked.

674
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you gave up forty and you're down six.

675
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: That f's probably a win, but you also know that

676
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: they don't have the firepower to do this.

677
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: Maybe I think it was Brian Anderson.

678
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: Maybe it could be.

679
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: Like it just it wasn't Iron, It wasn't Harlan and

680
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: I'm kind of like, eh, eh, yeah, okay, And so

681
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 3: it was tough to get into, but you know, I

682
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: think they just kinda the Celtics were like the big

683
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: brother and like the little brothers coming at you and

684
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: they're just holding you by the forehead.

685
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: Hit then you didn't didn't give it. They didn't even

686
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: need a big Tatum game. He was zero for five

687
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: from three. Tatum was third fiddle, just white and brown. Like,

688
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: they didn't even need Tatum and they won by twenty five. Yeah,

689
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: Mitchell had They're really really good. Mitchell said something postgame

690
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: that was was really smart, and you know, you think

691
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: about these things, but intil you then you really you

692
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: kind of hone in on it. He goes, Look, we

693
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: went from a series where we were defending the paint,

694
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: defending the paint, defending the paint, to a series where

695
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: we have to sprint out to three point shooters everywhere.

696
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: And that's the difference is it's not only are they

697
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: demonstrate they're better, way further along in their gestation than

698
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 2: than certainly the Magic Car, but also like they play

699
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 2: an entirely different game.

700
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: Now. I mean, let's just look in six road games

701
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: over the past two seasons, oh and six average margin

702
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 3: to defeat twenty point three points per game. Yeah, something's

703
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: got to turn around for you to even have a

704
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: gentleman's suite.

705
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: Here's your here's your stat of the day. We don't

706
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: have Griff anymore, but here's your Griff fact of the day.

707
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: The Celtics shot, Well, let's do guess the stats give

708
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: the Celtics attempted ninety two shots in the game. How

709
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: many of those ninety two do you think were threes?

710
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: Twenty two?

711
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: Right on it. So they went eighteen of forty six

712
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: from three in the game. We attempted ninety shots in

713
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: the game. We attempted forty two threes and made eleven.

714
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: It's a difference in the game.

715
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: keV was right on he had forty five. He's right

716
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: on it. Yeah, forty six threes like this is this

717
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: is not it's a different animal. It's just a totally

718
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: different animal. And if you're not making them or matching them,

719
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: it's it's hard to give you much.

720
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 8: Of a chance.

721
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: This could be I was going to say, and you

722
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: can't trade two s for threes, No.

723
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: You gotta, I mean, you're gonna give up that many

724
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: you got to match him.

725
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Spider is Spider, but someone else has

726
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: to step up. Someone's got to score. What's going on

727
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 3: with Jared Allen's ribs? I don't know, Like are they

728
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: Are they broken? Is that why he can't play at all?

729
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: His hands above his head? So if you can't do that,

730
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: you can't do anything, you know, if that's the case.

731
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: And just tell us that and sit him and tell

732
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: them tell us.

733
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that any of it matters.

734
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: They're without porzingis this is a buzzsaw? You know? It

735
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: just it is. It kind of is what it is. keV,

736
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: you're on it. keV, just get on the mic if

737
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: you or maybe he can't, keV, just feel free. Just

738
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: top on, buddy.

739
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 9: I mean I'm allowed.

740
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: I just I don't want to butt in, you know.

741
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we have three different sometimes I don't know

742
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: because we're in three different places. But no, so just

743
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 2: go ahead. So what are they saying on on Alan?

744
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 9: So last night they were saying that it is a

745
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 9: they're still calling it a rib contusion.

746
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 3: I beg to differ.

747
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 9: If he's been out this long and still having trouble sleeping,

748
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 9: like you said having trouble lifting his arms above his head.

749
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 9: Doesn't seem like he's anywhere closer to playing. And that's

750
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 9: a guy that I feel like, if he had any

751
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 9: sort of semblance that he could go, even in some pain.

752
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 9: But it's too painful to even be out there right now.

753
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that means they're broken. They're broken. Yeah, and he's out.

754
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's done.

755
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: Teams broke. It's a broken rib. I've had a cracked rib.

756
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 3: It's miserable. You can't sleep, you can't take a breath. Now, Like,

757
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 3: I totally get it. Just stop like saying well there's

758
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: a chance or.

759
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: The games is exhausting. Yeah, I do. And I won't

760
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: pretend that I'm watching every game or have all season long.

761
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: I'm into it now because it's it's happening. But this

762
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: feels about like what is expected of them, right be

763
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: the four seed went around like there were no delusions

764
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: of grandeur that you're going to be an Eastern Conference

765
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: final team, right I.

766
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 3: Mean, I think at one point in the year they

767
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 3: got as high as I think the two seed.

768
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: They did, but it was always.

769
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 9: Like in January, there was there was definitely feelings of grandeur,

770
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 9: but was it delusional? It wasn't for the way that

771
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 9: they were playing. But everybody said with the caveat like

772
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 9: when Darius Garland and Evan Mobley come back and it's

773
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 9: not just Spider Mitchell and Alan and they're shooting threes

774
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 9: at a rapid rapid rate on the floor, No one's

775
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 9: hitting threes. Mobley and Garland have not looked like themselves

776
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 9: at all throughout this whole year. I mean, you talk

777
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 9: about Ribsby and broken. This team is is broken and

778
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 9: I don't know what the what the answer is except

779
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 9: being able to shoot the lights out. But you're not

780
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 9: going to do that four times against the Boston Celtics.

781
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: No you're not. No, No, that's it.

782
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: So we've got some tough decisions to make in the

783
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: offseason from a personnel standpoint, what direction do you really

784
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: want to go in and who do you really want

785
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 3: to be well?

786
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: And you some that you might not even control, because

787
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: if Mitchell won't sign the extension, then you're correct, Yeah,

788
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: then you got to make that decision and hopefully you

789
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: maximize whatever you get in return. There a couple of

790
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: notes around the league. The per league sources of the

791
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 2: NFL schedule is going to wait another week, so it's

792
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 2: going to come out a week from today. On Wednesday,

793
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: the fifteenth, is when that schedule reportedly will come out.

794
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: We do know the season schedule features nine playoff rebatch

795
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: including all four division round games, both conference championship games,

796
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: as well as the Super Bowl.

797
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: Any why that's the case, It's just that's how it fell.

798
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: With none of any any guess as to why this

799
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: was delayed a week. I supposed to be this week.

800
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: Couple things. Mark Chand thinks it has everything to do

801
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: with what's going on with Christmas, because if you play

802
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 3: on you're going to have essentially two weeks of your

803
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: season interrupted if you play on Christmas, because you're going

804
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: to have to play Saturday, the Saturday before Christmas, not Sunday.

805
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: Remember Christmas is on a Wednesday, that's right, So they're

806
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: treating that it would be a Saturday Wednesday for those

807
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 3: two teams, or for those four teams. There's four teams

808
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 3: that are essentially having to play each other in those

809
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: situations like around and they're treating them. They're treating the

810
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: Wednesdays like you would a Thursday night game. So you

811
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: have Monday Tuesday, or you have it'll be Sunday, Monday.

812
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: Tuesday is your travel day or walk through day, and

813
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 3: Wednesday is game day on Christmas Day.

814
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 2: So that's so then coming out of that you got

815
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: to have a bye.

816
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got the short buy, but but you should

817
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: have a period of time that the week before because

818
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: you play on Saturday.

819
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then coming out you're off that next weekend,

820
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: so then you wouldn't play for like ten days. Yep.

821
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think that there's something with that. It

822
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 3: was there was a fascinating little thing this morning on

823
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: in New York radio boomeris siacin out at CBS. How's

824
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: the morning show there for the powerhouse station.

825
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: That escapes me? Currently wfan, Thank you wf An.

826
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: He went on and he thinks that at some point

827
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 3: the Christmas Games are going to go to Netflix.

828
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean Netflix is dipping their waters. I

829
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 2: don't know if you noticed this or not, but obviously

830
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: had the Brady Roast over the weekend, which was live,

831
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 2: and then they have this Netflix comedy stuff that's live

832
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: for this whole week, like that John Mulaney comedian guy

833
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: is doing like a late night show every night. So

834
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: they're trying. They're kind of dipping their toe and then

835
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: they've got the Tyson Fight this summer, so they are

836
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: dipping their toe in that. I just continue to say this,

837
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 2: and I know the NBA is going to Amazon Prime

838
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 2: next year and with some of the regular season games

839
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: the n season turn, I think that NCAS and tournament

840
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: disappears if it's on Amazon Prime. I don't think anybody

841
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: sees it. Nobody. I know that a gross many of

842
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 2: you certainly are in apps and you're streaming ear of

843
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: those things. But there is something that is still tried

844
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: and true, and that is over the ear. That is network,

845
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: and that is the networks that you expect to see

846
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 2: sporting events on. There's a reason that if you put

847
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: something on network, it still outrates if it's on what

848
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: we're traditionally cable channels. Something on ABC is always going

849
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 2: to beat something on ESPN. It happens time and time again.

850
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: It's just the reality of it. The best example of this,

851
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: Gibbe is have you seen the numbers for the UFL.

852
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 3: I have not.

853
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: So last weekend every game was their lowest rated game

854
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: was it was like almost nine hundred thousand viewers, and

855
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: they were between nine hundred thousand and a million one

856
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 2: in their games. Like we're not talking about it. You

857
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: and I aren't watching it, but a lot of people are,

858
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: and in fact, far more people are. What it's like

859
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: double the playoffs, it's it is crushing those type of things.

860
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: So like they don't No, it's not NFL numbers, it's

861
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: not big time college football numbers, but it's very respectable

862
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: numbers this time of year. Another example of something being

863
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: on network, it was seventeen million people watch the Kentucky Derby.

864
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 2: It's on NBC. That still matters. So like, you go

865
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: and put all this stuff on this, on these streaming things,

866
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 2: your numbers aren't going to be the same.

867
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 3: And I don't know, but I don't know if they

868
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: do they care.

869
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, here's why they should care, because the next

870
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: time they go get a bite at the apple. One

871
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Speaker 2: Michael mulvaney. Moul Hill. Rather, he has insights and analytics

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Speaker 2: with Fox and Fox Sports. So what's happening today is

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Speaker 2: Kevin Warren who is now running the Chicago Bears. When

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00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: he was the commissioner of the Big Ten, probably the

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Speaker 2: one thing that he did that most people would say

904
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Speaker 2: was positive, and it may have been the only thing,

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Speaker 2: was he created an NFL model for Big Ten football.

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Speaker 2: See know on the previous segment we were talking about

907
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: the importance of network. Well, he believed that wholeheartedly, and

908
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: the belief was we and by the way, the SEC

909
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 2: built their brand this way by having their best game

910
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: on CBS at three thirty for thirty years. So his

911
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: feeling was, let's go all network. Let's control the three

912
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: windows that matter most, the noon window, the three thirty window,

913
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: and the seven o'clock window. What he did was he

914
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: spread it over three separate networks. Maximum, the amount of

915
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: money that each school is going to make upwards of

916
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: ninety million dollars a year by the time all is

917
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 2: said and done, significantly more than everybody except for the

918
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: SEC who's in the vicinity. So Fox goes at noon.

919
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: CBS will be the three thirty window, and then seven

920
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: o'clock will be the NBC window. Now this is the

921
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Speaker 2: part that is in. Those three networks now have to

922
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: draft the games to decide who gets what in this.

923
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 2: So what we know for sure is that Fox goes first.

924
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: They have the biggest stake and so they have the

925
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: first pick in this lottery. So for example, they will

926
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Speaker 2: take the Ohio State Michigan game. It's the highest rating

927
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Speaker 2: game in college football every year other than the championship.

928
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Speaker 2: It also fits into their programming slate in that it

929
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: is a customary noon kick. I think there's only one

930
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Speaker 2: time and it hasn't been a noon kick. That was

931
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Speaker 2: seven six six six into the Yeah, it was six

932
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: Game of the Century in six yeah, yeah, because I

933
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: moved up here in o and that was right after it.

934
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Speaker 2: So six was the only time that was a three

935
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Speaker 2: thirty game. The Game of the Century game which Ohio

936
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Speaker 2: State won and very very close to fair. Troy was

937
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: unbelievable in that game. So that'll be the first pick.

938
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Speaker 2: At noon then against interesting. So what I don't know?

939
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: This is why I would love to see this. You say,

940
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 2: why is this not a made for TV event in

941
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: the prep? No kidding, I would love to know. Does

942
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,959
Speaker 2: CBS pick second, does NBC pick second? If you pick third,

943
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: do you also pick fourth? Or does Fox come back

944
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: in at number four? And do they get a pick

945
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: the second pick? In this thing is fascinating because here

946
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: are the games that are Big ten owned properties. Remember

947
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: you added USC, Oregon, Washington, and UCLA. Here are the

948
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Speaker 2: games that are Big ten owned properties. USC against Michigan

949
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: regular season game. Michigan Texas is in ann Arbor this year,

950
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Speaker 2: so that is a Big ten produced event, So that

951
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Speaker 2: can be in a game Michigan text is going to

952
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: be a banger. Ohio State Oregon will be two top

953
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: five teams when they play. That's second week in October.

954
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: That game will be a monster from a rating standpoint.

955
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 2: Alabama plays at Wisconsin this year, that one will be Now,

956
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 2: Ohio State schedule is god awful. They only play Oregon,

957
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: Penn State in Michigan. That's it.

958
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you've listed two of the three

959
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 3: opponents that matter this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Penn State game always rates. It'll be

961
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Speaker 2: a top ten pick for sure. Michigan schedule is really robust.

962
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: They still play Penn State, they play Washington, they play

963
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Speaker 2: in a matchup at the National Championship Game, a rematch,

964
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Speaker 2: they play USC obviously the Ohio State game. Oregon will

965
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: play USC this year, so that'll have a lot of

966
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: juice to it. So there's a ton And then the

967
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: other thing you're looking at if you're drafting this thing

968
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: is like you know that almost any time you have

969
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 2: Ohio State versus anybody, you're gonna get four million viewers,

970
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: which is kind of the threshold for when they can

971
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: start to really make hay So, Ohio State even against

972
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 2: Iowa is going to be a five to six million

973
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: viewed game. Like that's going to happen. So I would

974
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 2: love to be in the room for this.

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00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: I want to know. Does the network have a big board?

976
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 3: I'm a super sure. You have to know going in.

977
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: We're all on the same page. Is USC Notre Dame

978
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 3: in option?

979
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I don't know either. I don't know

980
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 2: if it's in. If it's at SC, then it would.

981
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 3: I that that's a monster game.

982
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: But it's if it's at Notre Dame, it's NBC, correct,

983
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: so they can either way, it'll be a big ten

984
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: footprint partner game. It'll either be on one of these

985
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: three or it'll be on NBC. Yeah, no, that's so

986
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: this would be fascinating. I don't know what the other

987
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: thing is. I'm sure there's horse trading, right Like, if

988
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: you're Fox and you're saying, hey, we have the World

989
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 2: Series that day, we would We'll give you this one

990
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: if you give us this one later.

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00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 3: There's that part too, show me this and maybe I'm

992
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 3: the only one that maybe I'd love to see two

993
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 3: in the media. The media people would be the only

994
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 3: ones who care. I think it would be fascinating to

995
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 3: watch how a schedule, how that schedule gets put together.

996
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: I would love if even if I couldn't see it,

997
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 2: I hope that somebody has an account.

998
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 3: Of what happened podcast of it.

999
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 2: I'd like, here's these guys took them, They took this.

1000
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: This was kind of the way that it trickled down.

1001
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: You know, O High State Michigan's won, But what's this

1002
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: My hunch the second pick would be Michigan Texas. That

1003
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: feels like a sure sure thing. It's early in the season.

1004
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 2: Those are monster brands. I would think that would be

1005
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: the second one, but the third pick gets interesting. It

1006
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 2: will probably be Ohio State Oregon, but also in there

1007
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: as USC Michigan for the first time as conference foes.

1008
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: So there's a lot to it for sure. Well, we'll

1009
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: ask Tivus. But plus, I'm so happy you put this

1010
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: in the prep. I'm so happy you put this in

1011
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: the prep. Austin Rivers said something that at first I thought,

1012
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? And then I started to

1013
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: think about it. We'll run it by Tyvus. We'll get

1014
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Speaker 2: heard Have you heard the Austin Rivers claim yet before?

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00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: You don't give an opinion. I just want to know

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Speaker 2: if you heard it. Yes, I'll hear. We're going to

1026
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: play it for the audience and then you will You

1027
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: and I will have a little chat. So this was

1028
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: Austin Rivers. This is on the McAfee show yesterday. He's

1029
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: talking about NFL players NBA players. Apparently mcavee's dipping his

1030
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: toes and talking about the NBA a little bit, something

1031
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: he hasn't done before. So Austin and he have this exchange.

1032
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: Let's have a listen. We're the best athletes in the world.

1033
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 8: Are that's us.

1034
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 7: I can take thirty players right now in the NBA

1035
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 7: and throw them in the NFL.

1036
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 5: You cannot say thirty NFL players and put them in

1037
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 5: the NBA.

1038
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 8: Whoa five on the court.

1039
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 3: Let's just let's all relax.

1040
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 7: You get a break every play, I gotta just catch

1041
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 7: the ball and runs north or south.

1042
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 8: It ain't our sports better?

1043
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 10: Our sports better because we would just create a position

1044
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 10: for one of you five to forty running six foot

1045
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 10: ten guys and just put them. You know, can't get

1046
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 10: hit much fragile, all right, little thing, very toll. We

1047
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 10: would just create a position because we got big brains

1048
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 10: in our sports.

1049
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: That's what we were do. All right, you played? What

1050
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: do you make of that?

1051
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 4: I think that Austin Rivers looks at the sport of

1052
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 4: football and doesn't realize everything that goes into it. Like

1053
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 4: he thinks that, you know, because they're athletic, they can

1054
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 4: run and jonp that that's how simple it is. But

1055
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 4: I think what he's forgetting is that there's a lot

1056
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 4: of hitting and it's a physical game. It's a very

1057
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 4: violent game. Bo At some points intimes, those hits start

1058
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 4: to add up, and the question is can you still

1059
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 4: compete at a high level when your body has been

1060
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 4: beat up for three quarters when it's time for the

1061
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 4: crunch time in the fourth quarter, are you still able

1062
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 4: to make that play? And to be honest with you,

1063
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 4: the way that the NBA is now where you can't

1064
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 4: even touch him because it's the whistle, I don't think

1065
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 4: that they would last. So I think he's completely rolled

1066
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 4: in his statement, and I don't think he understands the

1067
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 4: physicality that comes with football. Yeah, he'll be fine, They'll

1068
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 4: be fine for the first quarter.

1069
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 2: For sure, But.

1070
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 4: Do they have the mindset and can they withstand the

1071
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 4: punishment of a full game? Absolutely not.

1072
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: Here's the one pushback that I would give, and Pat

1073
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: actually kind of made my point for me. I had

1074
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: not heard that part about what Pat was going to say.

1075
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: Football is malleable. If you have an elite trait, we

1076
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 2: can find a spot for you. We'll find things you

1077
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: can do. The same is not true of hoops. You can't.

1078
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: You have to have that length, you have to have

1079
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 2: that speed. You have to have not necessarily the speed.

1080
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: You need to have the length, or you need to

1081
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 2: have the ability to have the skill development in terms

1082
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 2: of ball handling or shooting to be able to survive

1083
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 2: at that level. If you were to give a defensive

1084
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: line coach Zion Williamson, I think that they could make him.

1085
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: I don't think he would be embarrassed right away on

1086
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: an NFL field because of his size, speed and strength.

1087
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: He could play. Could you teach him how to.

1088
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 4: Play d n for a believe absolutely?

1089
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: Could you take Anthony Edwards and turn him into a

1090
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: wide out. I don't know if he can catch or not, but.

1091
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 4: We don't have to figure out Anthony Anthony Edwards is

1092
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 4: probably one of the most athletic guys. He had a

1093
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 4: clip I think a year or two ago where he

1094
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 4: actually played football and he actually is really good.

1095
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: Yes good, Yes, No, I'm not I'm not surprised. So

1096
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 2: you could take him and could I say, you know,

1097
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 2: provided he could catch a football and if you're telling

1098
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 2: me you can based on his video that he had played,

1099
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 2: could I say, twenty times a game, I need you

1100
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 2: to just run as fast as you can and we're

1101
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: going to throw it high and you go high point

1102
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 2: the ball. Yeah, yeah, I could see that you could

1103
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 2: do that and that and the same I don't think

1104
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: can be said the other way. So the best I'm

1105
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: trying to think, like the best NFL. Let me just so,

1106
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: I think T Higgins is the best. I think he's

1107
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 2: probably the best basketball player in the NBA, in the NFL.

1108
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 2: I think he is. He's I remember, right, I think

1109
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 2: he was a dude. Well, hell, j Okay was an

1110
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: all state guy at Virginia. He was an All state

1111
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: basketball player at Virginia. But I remember talking to about

1112
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: his game and he said he was basically like, you know,

1113
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 2: he's like a glue guy. He's like a rebounder. Defense,

1114
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: hustle guy. So my point I think will be made here.

1115
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: Miles is a damn good basketball player, right. Do you

1116
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 2: remember Miles was standing next to Steph Curry. Yeah, Steph's taller,

1117
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like his big as Miles is.

1118
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: Steph's taller, and we think if Steph is like little, we.

1119
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 4: Don't have the height for it. That's all. That's I think.

1120
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 4: I think, what what if you took an NFL player

1121
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 4: and push him on the NBA court. The first thing

1122
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 4: he's doing to score is he's driving to the lane.

1123
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 4: He's putting his head down and he's driving to the lane. Yes,

1124
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 4: and the problem he'll face is that that guy down

1125
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 4: there is seven foot that guy's down there is sixteen,

1126
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 4: and they're not going for it. I think it's one

1127
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 4: of those things. We had the height, I think it'd

1128
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 4: be totally different.

1129
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 2: That's it. And honestly, you could say that, and I

1130
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 2: know I'm sure this comes across as like kind of

1131
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: disrespectful from a towards football players. It's not meant to be.

1132
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: It's just the rosters are big and you can find

1133
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 2: spots for elite trade, whereas in the other sports you can't,

1134
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: like if you can't hit a baseball, I don't care

1135
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: how good of an athlete you are. That's a skill

1136
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: that you have to have. I've seen some of the

1137
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 2: most athletic uh uh, just freaking nature football basketball players

1138
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: try to hit a golf ball and it's just sitting

1139
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: there and they can't hit it off the tee. In fact,

1140
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: a guy that I know real well and I think

1141
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: you do too, actually swung so hard that he threw

1142
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: the driver into a into a body of water. I

1143
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: believe there's video evidence of this. You gonna go there there, No,

1144
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: But my point is like those are skills.

1145
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 4: No, no, because I don't like your point. Now, I

1146
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 4: don't know.

1147
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: You made a person.

1148
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 4: What the show is After I did that? Yeah, I

1149
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 4: continue to play golf for the rest of that day

1150
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 4: and I actually my last shot, I hit it on

1151
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 4: the green.

1152
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 2: Can you believe.

1153
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 4: There?

1154
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 2: It's there?

1155
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 8: There?

1156
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, no. But there are almost all of the

1157
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: rest of them you transfer to and you have to

1158
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: have had like a skill development at such a young

1159
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: age to be able to do it. The crazy thing

1160
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: about the NFL is these are the strongest, fastest, most

1161
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: explosive athletes on the planet who also have an incredible

1162
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: mass on the lines of scrimmage. There's some in some

1163
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 2: there's incredible skill development. But like those things are traits, right,

1164
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 2: Like learning how to hit a baseball, you got to

1165
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 2: do that from the time you're five, learning how to

1166
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: skate in hockey, you got to learn. Well, you did

1167
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: a lot of this because you did this when you

1168
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: were doing it with the foundation you wouldn't play the

1169
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 2: other sports.

1170
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was a if harder than it looks. Tennis,

1171
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 4: returning a serve is very difficult. Baseball, you're right, Baseball

1172
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 4: is a skill, you know, and that's not something that

1173
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 4: you could just pick up and just do out of

1174
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 4: just not after not doing it for a while. You know,

1175
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 4: playing golf, you know, hitting a golf ball straight, like

1176
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 4: those are all skilled. Football is literally what they'll do

1177
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 4: is they'll look at you and they'll see what you're

1178
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 4: good at, and then they can put you in a

1179
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 4: position to where you'll succeed. You know, if you're a faster.

1180
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 4: How many how many guys have been tracks just track stars.

1181
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 4: They come to the NFL, you put them at wide receiver,

1182
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 4: you put them at dB. They go on to have

1183
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 4: a successful career, you know. But if you take those

1184
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 4: track stars or that guy that can jump out the

1185
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 4: gym and you tell him to go hit a baseball team,

1186
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 4: now he don't have a career at all. So I

1187
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 4: think that you're right. He's right when he says that.

1188
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 4: You know, they create positions for people at football, and

1189
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 4: that's why you see so many successful That's why you

1190
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 4: see guys coming from that. You see basketball players like

1191
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 4: Antonio Gates, he was a tight or he was a

1192
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 4: basketball player his whole career and decided to play football

1193
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 4: and became successful. You know, like they can figure it out.

1194
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 4: I think learning football is easier than basketball because, like

1195
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 4: I said, you got to be blessed with some type

1196
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 4: of talent. You got to be able to jump out

1197
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 4: the gym. If you're not jumping off the you got

1198
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 4: to be tall. If you're not tall, you got to

1199
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 4: be able to shoot. Like, it's so many things that

1200
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 4: you have to have that's just given to you by

1201
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 4: the higher ups, you know, and if you don't have

1202
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 4: those things, you won't succeed at all. So I'm not

1203
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 4: mad at Austin Rivers was saying that, I do still

1204
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 4: think that the physicality.

1205
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 2: Part of the biggest part of it.

1206
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 4: I think everybody just needs to respect they sport. You

1207
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 4: need to reelect the sports and what they got there.

1208
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: And hey, here's the other part of this, buddy. Like

1209
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: what I'm laying out for you, whether it be Zion

1210
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 2: or Anthony Edwards or any of those things, is like

1211
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying, fifteen snaps. I'm not saying you're Joe Thomas

1212
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: playing everything. There's no way, like, no chance, like there's

1213
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 2: no web at all. Like no, I'm not saying that.

1214
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying ten snaps. You're not going to embarrass yourself

1215
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: if you give a month to coach up and to

1216
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: play it, do a very specific role, you know what

1217
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 2: I mean. I think that's the key to it. And

1218
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 2: by the way, that's why football is the best. That's

1219
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 2: the thing out there, and what you just said it's

1220
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: so important. I think for the coaches in youth football,

1221
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 2: coaches in middle school football, little guy football, all of

1222
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 2: those things. What TIV has said there was so important.

1223
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: We will take a look at you and say what

1224
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: do you do well? And let's let's exacerbate that. Let's

1225
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,959
Speaker 2: take that and find because there's a place for you

1226
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: in football, right you don't have to be every there's

1227
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 2: a spot of a skill that you do well that

1228
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 2: you can play this sport. That's the beauty. That's why

1229
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 2: it's the best game, because there is something for everything.

1230
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: And I think one thing that youth coaches, especially you

1231
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 2: need to do a better job of is is articulating

1232
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 2: the importance of the one to eleventh. I see it

1233
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 2: all the time coaching youth football. So much attention is

1234
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: given to the kid who scores the touchdown. There's ten

1235
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 2: kids that made it possible that all do it, and

1236
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 2: all of those roles and you know this, every one

1237
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 2: of those roles is as critical as the guy who

1238
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 2: puts it over the goal line.

1239
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 4: Oh. Absolutely. Out of all sports, I say it's the

1240
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 4: most team sports. It has to be a team to

1241
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 4: win those games. Basketball, if Lebron James gives Lebron James

1242
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 4: can win the game by itself, Football, I don't care.

1243
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 4: I don't care if Jerry Rice is hot on fire

1244
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 4: catching everything, if that quarterback ain't getting the ball or

1245
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 4: that line ain't protecting, it doesn't matter. So I think

1246
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 4: that that's why it Football is the ultimate team sport

1247
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 4: when it comes to that. But what I will say

1248
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 4: is the point is is that it is the easiest

1249
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 4: to make it. That's why you see so many Now,

1250
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, it's more spots since you got

1251
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 4: fifty three spots thirty two teams, so you got more

1252
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 4: of a chance of making it there. But I think

1253
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 4: that a lot of people go out for football because

1254
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 4: it's out of all the sports, I would say professionally wise,

1255
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 4: it's one of the best chances to make it, if

1256
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 4: that makes sense, because it's so many spots, and if

1257
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 4: you have one certain skill set you can get a look,

1258
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 4: you know, or other sports you might if you don't

1259
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 4: possess the skill set, you won't ever get a look.

1260
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 4: So I think that is why you see more people

1261
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 4: playing football, even though the numbers is going down for football,

1262
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 4: and around the world, everybody's like getting turned off football

1263
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 4: because of the physicality and the concussions and stuff. But

1264
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 4: I will tell you I had a very good career

1265
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 4: where I didn't sustain one concussion on that I know of,

1266
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 4: because I learned at a young age how to keep

1267
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,439
Speaker 4: my head out of the collision. And I think that's

1268
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 4: what we're doing a good job of teaching nowadays, especially

1269
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 4: when you talk about the rugby style tackling. I know

1270
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 4: the Browns do a good job of it. When I

1271
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 4: was in Seattle, I learned it there, and I also

1272
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 4: learned it at Ohio State. So I don't think parents

1273
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 4: should be afraid of putting their kids in football. I

1274
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 4: think it's really good for you because it teaches you

1275
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 4: who you are as a person. You know, it teaches

1276
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 4: you accountability, discipline. It teaches you that somebody in life

1277
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 4: is going to knock you down, but you got to

1278
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 4: get back up, dust yourself off, and go back at

1279
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 4: it again. And I think if you don't play football,

1280
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 4: that's one of those things that you might not necessarily learn.

1281
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to take you a step further. I think

1282
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 2: football is the best sport on the planet in terms

1283
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 2: of teaching you how to work with others. You mentioned

1284
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 2: the ultimate team sport, Buddy, When you walked into the

1285
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 2: Seattle forget Seattle, when you walked into the Ohio State

1286
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 2: football locker room, think of the various walks of life,

1287
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: the various people that were in there. It's everything is

1288
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: everything's in there. You get along with people who are

1289
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 2: not from your demographic, who don't look like you, who

1290
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 2: are raised differently than you, from a different part of

1291
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: the country. There's no other sport that gives you that,

1292
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 2: so you have to learn how to work with others.

1293
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more. At a young age,

1294
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Speaker 2: it is so valuable in that because it is a

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Speaker 2: one to eleventh and you all have to row in

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Speaker 2: the same direction. And then as you get older, it

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Speaker 2: is the most diversified locker room in the world in sport.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that statment for sure, because there's

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Speaker 4: so many of you. It's so you're talking about fifty three.

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Speaker 4: Then you got the practice squad, which is up to

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Speaker 4: what fifteen guys and sixty eight different people that all

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01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 4: come from different backgrounds, and you got to learn about them.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: It was funny because I was just talking to a

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01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 4: former Ohio State guy and we was talking about music

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01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 4: and he was talking about He was like, yeah, I

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01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 4: like him, but he's a he's a Caucasian guy. He says,

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01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 4: I'm into hip hop and he said, I learned it

1309
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 4: when I was in college before I.

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Speaker 2: Met you guys.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was all about just country music and

1312
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 4: that I did a little bit of rock. But now

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Speaker 4: I'm into hip hop because you know, I listened to

1314
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 4: you guys stuff in the locker room, and I kind

1315
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 4: of like some of the music that I was playing.

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Speaker 4: So it's nice to uh know that we made we

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Speaker 4: promoted change or somebody's life.

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Speaker 2: That's right, That's right. Hey, I wanted to talk to

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Speaker 2: you quickly about what the Browns did in the draft,

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Speaker 2: specifically Mike Call. You obviously watched him very close. Uh

1321
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 2: Cleveland or Cleveland area kid gets to come home, stays

1322
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Speaker 2: with the Browns. Uh, what do you make of the fit?

1323
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 2: What do you for for the audience? What are they

1324
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 2: getting in my hall?

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Speaker 4: So Mike Hall is a He's a guy that can

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01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 4: be a game wrecker, you know, and if he stays healthy.

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Speaker 4: I think that was one of the things at Ohio

1328
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 4: State that he struggled with. He had times where he

1329
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 4: was he just wasn't healthy because he had a he

1330
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 4: did the the club he used to love to throw

1331
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,479
Speaker 4: that club move, and I think it kind of messed

1332
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 4: up his bicep a little bit in that area. So

1333
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 4: if he strengthens that up, he's a very good pass rush.

1334
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 4: I think he fits well with what Jim Schwartz wants,

1335
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 4: you know, he wants he got He wants guys to

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01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 4: not think about nothing to just get to the quarterback,

1337
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 4: you know. And I think if you got a guy

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01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 4: that you eliminate the thinking process and tell him that

1339
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 4: all you need to do is get up the field.

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Speaker 4: He does a wonderful job of doing that. I think

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01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 4: that the fact that he's from Cleveland makes it better

1342
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 4: because now he's gonna rush with a little bit more passion.

1343
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 4: You know, he's gonna sacrifice a little bit more because

1344
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 4: he's grown up watching the Browns and understanding this organization

1345
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 4: hasn't been, you know, the best organization as far as

1346
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 4: winning games, and he can be a part of that change.

1347
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 4: He's coming in at a time where the Browns are

1348
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 4: starting to look up. Things are looking very good. They

1349
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 4: have the roster, they have the makeup that they need.

1350
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Speaker 4: They just depend on him to come in here and

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01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 4: be a rotational piece in that pass So I think

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01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 4: he can do that with the best of in the NFL.

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01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 4: I think he'll he'll with Jim Schwartz, you know, Jim

1354
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 4: Schwartz has a history of making me getting these defensive

1355
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 4: tackles and turning them into Pro bowlers and maybe even

1356
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 4: all pros. I think he's in the right system he's

1357
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 4: with the right coach, and I think we'll see the

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01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 4: best out of him. I think the injuries part doesn't

1359
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 4: concern me as much because he'll be rotating At Ohio State.

1360
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 4: He was the guy. Now he's in a rotating, a

1361
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 4: rotating spot with the Cleveland Browns to where, hey, we're

1362
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 4: not gonna have you in every down. We need you

1363
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 4: on critical downs when your passed, to pass, rush and

1364
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 4: go all out. So it allows him to be fresh,

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01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 4: it allows him to be relentless, and we'll get the

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Speaker 4: best out of him and we'll see a lot of

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Speaker 4: production from Mike Hall this year.

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Speaker 2: You you live this stream. I mean you you you

1369
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 2: put on the Orange and brown. What what did it?

1370
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 2: What does it mean to be drafted by your homework?

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01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: I mean you obviously came here in free agency, and

1372
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 2: what what did it mean to play for your hometown team?

1373
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: Was it gonna mean to Mike?

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01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 4: It's gonna mean a lie. It's one of those things that,

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01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 4: like I said, you grow up, you and you think

1376
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 4: about it, like I would love to play for my

1377
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 4: hometown team, and you get that opportunity and you just

1378
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 4: take it more seriously. You know, you look at that

1379
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 4: opportunity like I want to be. I want to be

1380
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Speaker 4: inspired by a change, and like I said, Mike is

1381
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 4: going to do that. Mike is going to be.

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Speaker 3: A very hard working guy.

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Speaker 4: And the fact that he'll have his family and friends

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01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 4: from his childhood and the stance, it'll mean that much

1385
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 4: more to him. So I don't never think we'll see

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01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 4: Mike not going hard because, like I said, it needs

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Speaker 4: that much to him. So that's why I think that's

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Speaker 4: an added thing with drafting him in the second round

1389
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 4: is that you've got a guy who's gonna take this

1390
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 4: thing seriously. You know who's got a guy who's got

1391
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 4: guys around him, Miles Gearrets, Darius Smith, Dalvin Tomlinson who

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Speaker 4: comes in and is going to make him become a pro.

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Speaker 4: You know, that young stuff, the immature stuff, all of

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01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 4: that stuff is going to go out the window because

1395
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,839
Speaker 4: he's gonna see how a guy like Zadarius handles his business.

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Speaker 4: He sees a guy like Miles how he handles his business,

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Speaker 4: and it's gonna inspire him to grow up and want

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01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 4: to be that guy. You know. The funny thing is

1399
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 4: when we drafted and when we talked to him after

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Speaker 4: on the day of the draft meet Nathan and Ken.

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01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 4: I asked him, I said, in the fall, you're gonna

1402
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 4: look to your left and you're gonna look to your right,

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01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 4: and you're gonna see he's gonna see Miles, Zadarius and

1404
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 4: Dow and what's gonna go through your head? And he

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01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 4: just laughed because he's like that. It's a ridiculous line though,

1406
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 4: like we go definitely do something special. So that that

1407
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 4: to me inspired me. And I can't wait to see

1408
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 4: this guy take off because I know he's gonna be

1409
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 4: a ball player for us.

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01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 2: And you know this when you when you decide to

1411
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 2: play at Ohio State and then you end up playing

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01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 2: for the Browns, your family and friends are seeing everything

1413
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 2: you do. Buddy, there's no hiding. Yeah, there's no You're

1414
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 2: gonna hear about it.

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01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 4: You know, he's definitely he's in a spotlight for sure.

1416
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 4: Everybody is going to be looking at Mike Hall when

1417
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 4: he goes out there for sure.

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01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you watching this cat? What do you make of

1419
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 2: Game one last night?

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01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 4: The Calves they just looked like they was out of juice.

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01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 4: I mean they stayed within ten for a majority of

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01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 4: the game. I knew it got bad when when Pritchard

1423
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 4: hit the shot to go into the fourth quarter. At

1424
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 4: the buzzer hit the three point shot, I knew it

1425
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 4: was bad then. You know, Donovan's gonna continue to sell

1426
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 4: out and do what he gotta do. It's up to

1427
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 4: the other guys, you know, Darius Carris, Max Strus, Like,

1428
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 4: we paid for all these guys in free agency. We

1429
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 4: thought we was getting shooters this year. Last year they

1430
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 4: struggled in the playoffs because they couldn't hit these threes.

1431
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 4: And if these guys are not gonna hit those threes,

1432
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a short series. So they gotta figure

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01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 4: that out.

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01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 2: Right now.

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01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 4: I think they're one of the shooting teams in the playoffs.

1436
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 4: They gotta fix it. For Max Screws to be a

1437
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 4: guy that went to the finals, for George n Yang

1438
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 4: to have a ton of playoff experience. Right now, I'm

1439
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 4: not seeing that, and that's the part that's missing the most.

1440
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 4: So they got to figure that out. Somebody has to

1441
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 4: go with Donovan. Mitchell, you can't tell me you're gonna

1442
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 4: watch a guy go out there and give it his all,

1443
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 4: knowing that he's on one leg giving it everything he's got,

1444
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 4: and you're not inspired to play better. So they got

1445
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 4: to figure that part out.

1446
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, better do it quick. This Boston teams for real.

1447
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:08,799
Speaker 2: Good talking to you as always my friend.

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01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 4: Likewise, both go Browns.

1449
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 2: The great Tyvis Powell joining us on the hotline there.

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Speaker 2: And Don't as Billy Joelron Stewarts together for the first

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Speaker 2: It's Billy Joelan Rod Stewarts together for one night only.

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Speaker 2: The voice as I talked to him on Monday, he

1462
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 2: will be there. Give it. He's going.

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Speaker 8: It's locked in.

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01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 2: Very excited, big Stewart fan. He's a big Rod Stewart fan. Yes, yeah,

1465
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 2: I think we would know. I think we said this before.

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01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 2: We know more of his songs than we would think. Yes,

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01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 2: we would know. Is probably the way that that one went.

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Speaker 3: By the way. I did some homework on t Higgins

1469
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 3: high school basketball career. Okay, yeah, he had at least

1470
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 3: three Major D one offers to go play hoops Louisville, Auburn,

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01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 3: and Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you can go, Yeah, you can go. If

1473
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: you're doing that, you can go. So like now, making

1474
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 2: it there and then to the league, it's another thing

1475
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 2: entirely ru but getting there that at least tells you

1476
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: that there's something there. One thing on Antonio Gates, because

1477
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 2: he's come up a lot today with these Austin Rivers stories. Yes,

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01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 2: he played at Kent State, but he was initially at

1479
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: Michigan State and played on both basketball and football at

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01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: Michigan State. And it was Saban. Yeah, Saban kind of

1481
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 2: didn't love that necessarily, and he ended up That's how

1482
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 2: he ended up going back to That's how he ended

1483
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:28,799
Speaker 2: up in Kent State. He's initially in Michigan State. So yeah, yeah, yeah,

1484
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 2: but he was identified. I mean, you think of the

1485
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 2: other guys that did it, obviously, Gonzalez. Tony Gonzalez is

1486
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 2: probably the best example. He played both. Julius Peppers played

1487
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 2: both at Carolina, so that and he contributed. He was

1488
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 2: good at Carolina basketball, but obviously didn't have the height.

1489
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 2: And he was the number one pick in the draft,

1490
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 2: So you have those two. Jimmy Graham at Miami. Did

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01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 2: he play football at all at the U? Or was

1492
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 2: he only a basketball guy at Miami? He is one

1493
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 2: I thought of, and then I thought about our old

1494
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 2: guy Demetrius Harris.

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01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, remember.

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01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 2: Doors found him watching Wisconsin Milwaukee basketball. Yeah, so Graham

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01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 2: only played basketball. He played tight end. Let's see.

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01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 2: Then state at Miami tak graduate classes while playing a

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01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 2: season of football. So he played his full years of

1501
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 2: basketball and then played one season of football that followed.

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01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 2: But it was a pretty good basketball player kind of

1503
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 2: all the way through and then ended up being oh god,

1504
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 2: he played about eighteen minutes a game and then ended

1505
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: up being just a total stud the Saints. But he

1506
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 2: was a basketball player primarily just one year of football

1507
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: at the U and it was kind of an afterthought.

1508
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah he was. He was a solid bench player for them. Yeah,

1509
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 3: I mean four point six rebounds, six and five.

1510
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, eight point about eighteen nineteen minutes a night. Yeah,

1511
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: for Miami at that time, but then switched over to

1512
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 2: football and ended up being a pro in that So

1513
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:56,799
Speaker 2: I think all of these things.

1514
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 3: Just funny prove because his college football career, he played

1515
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 3: thirteen games. He caught a total of seventeen passes for

1516
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 3: two hundred and thirteen yards five touchdowns one year. Five

1517
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 3: of his seventeen catches were touchdowns. Yeah, he's got a

1518
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 3: college tape that is seventeen catches. Someone takes a shot

1519
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 3: and he becomes an unbelievable tight end in the NFL.

1520
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 2: I mean, he was nearly one hundred receptions his second

1521
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 2: year with the Saints, thirteen hundred yards. His catches with

1522
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 2: the Saints thirty one, ninety nine, eighty five, eighty six,

1523
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 2: eighty five those years there for him, So you can

1524
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 2: do it. We were having that. I'll tell you this

1525
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 2: story real quick. I always tell this to my youth

1526
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: basketball teams at the beginning of the year. This is

1527
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 2: my go to I tell him all the time because

1528
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 2: they all that you say, well, how many of you

1529
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 2: guys want to play in high school? They all raise

1530
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 2: their hand, how many guys want to play in college,

1531
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 2: most from razor hand. How many guys want going to

1532
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 2: play in the NBA, most from razor hand. So then

1533
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 2: I always do this. Okay, this is how hard it is.

1534
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: And I say, have you ever heard of John Diebler?

1535
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 2: And one of them have unless their dads went to

1536
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Like, none of them have a point of

1537
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 2: reference on who John Deebler is. And they say no,

1538
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 2: And I'm like, all right, Well, he scored more points

1539
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,839
Speaker 2: than anybody in the history of Ohio high school basketball. Okay,

1540
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 2: more points than Lebron James. Okay, the most points it's

1541
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 2: ever been scored in this state was done by him. Okay.

1542
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 2: He scored seventy seven in a state semifinal game. Okay,

1543
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 2: he was a four star recruit. He went to Ohio State,

1544
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 2: he played for four years. He then hit more three

1545
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: pointers than anybody at the time in the history of

1546
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 2: the Big Ten Conference. Okay. He was drafted in the

1547
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 2: second round of the NBA Draft by Portland. He did

1548
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 2: not play a minute in the NBA, not a minute.

1549
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 2: He played overseas for a decade, made a lot of

1550
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 2: good moneys now in the staff at Butler, and then

1551
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 2: I drop them with this and he's six eight. So

1552
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 2: when you think about how hard that sport is, this

1553
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 2: is a dude who scored more than anybody in the

1554
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:00,759
Speaker 2: history of the state, who shot it lights out, who's

1555
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 2: six ' eight and never played a minute in the NBA.

1556
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 2: That's how hard that sport is.

1557
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean that's that's my former teammate at BG,

1558
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 3: Anthony Stacy. Yeah, I mean, up until a year ago,

1559
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 3: was the all time leading scorer at BG, like it

1560
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:23,759
Speaker 3: was an All mac Perennial selection. Was nicknamed Baby Barkley

1561
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 3: and could play to that role pretty well from a

1562
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 3: rebounding and scoring and just never played a minute in

1563
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 3: the NBA. It's hard excelled overseas. Just it was do

1564
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 3: you want to sit at the end of a bench

1565
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 3: and maybe you'll play ten games in a season, or

1566
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 3: do you want to go start overseas?

1567
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 2: Yep.

1568
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 3: And here's a guy, I mean I literally sat next

1569
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 3: to Jerry Krause and Anderson Arena at the time in

1570
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven, was the head of the Chicago Bulls.

1571
01:17:59,360 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 2: Yep.

1572
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 3: I literally sat next to him and he watched those

1573
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 3: guys play.

1574
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's that tough. Yeah, that's just

1575
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: how tough that one is. It's brutal exactly to get

1576
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 2: into it all right. Coming up next with Little Higher Lower.

1577
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1585
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1587
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Into you from CBS Sports Cody Benjamin his

1588
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:08,839
Speaker 3: first QB Power ranking one T four and it's presented

1589
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1590
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:16,240
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1591
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 3: we go, mister Arnold, hit.

1592
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Speaker 8: It Higher or Lower.

1593
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 3: Number one is Patrick Mahomes obviously and by a landslide.

1594
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 3: I would say number two on his list Rock Party

1595
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 3: quarterback San Francisco.

1596
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 2: As you spit stuff out across the almost that was

1597
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 2: almost a spit take. So that's right to the point.

1598
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 2: What's he doing here? What's the deal here?

1599
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 4: So?

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01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 3: Which ones are the best of the best as we

1601
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 3: stand here today approaching the new year? Which ones could

1602
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 3: be in for trouble? Our rankings are obviously subject to

1603
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 3: drastic change once games actually get underway, as they're built

1604
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 3: to be based more on current standing than bigger picture

1605
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 3: in an effort to tell the story of each QB's

1606
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 3: respective rise and fall. Okay, brock Party at number two,

1607
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 3: Let's give the kid the respect he deserves. Two seasons,

1608
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 3: two NFC title games, one effort. Does he have a

1609
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 3: sterling setup in San Francisco?

1610
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 2: Yep?

1611
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 3: Does he operate like a ten year vet managing the

1612
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 3: pocket as both an efficient and mobile gunslinger? Also yep?

1613
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 3: Bishop higher or just right?

1614
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 2: So, but it seems to me like what he did here?

1615
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 2: Is he just these two teams played in the Super Bowl,

1616
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,799
Speaker 2: so their quarterbacks are won two But there's no nuance

1617
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 2: to the thought here. No this And look, I'm not

1618
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 2: in the I have not the interest to bash brock Party,

1619
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 2: nor do I think you should. He's a very good quarterback.

1620
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 2: Far back, he's you know, the mister irrelevant stuff. All

1621
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 2: of that is going to hang around him. He has

1622
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 2: so far exceeded all of that, and he is so

1623
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 2: much more than a game manager. But he is also

1624
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: not the second best quarterback in the National Football League.

1625
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 3: Oh and if your rock party, I don't need to

1626
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 3: be that way.

1627
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 2: No, and I don't even know how you. The hard

1628
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 2: thing for his him is like it's probably the best

1629
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 2: position a rookie quarterback has ever been in. I mean

1630
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 2: maybe in the history of the NFL. I mean, it's everything, brilliant,

1631
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 2: play caller, loaded roster, other than having to so he

1632
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 2: had to win that first training camp. He had to

1633
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 2: beat out the guy they drafted. But once that happened,

1634
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 2: it's the best spot you could ever be in. No

1635
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 2: much much lower, he's he I don't think he would

1636
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: be in my top ten.

1637
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:40,959
Speaker 8: Absolutely next higher or lower.

1638
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 3: All Right, So the next four quarterbacks in his power

1639
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 3: rankings are all AFC guys. That means five of the

1640
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 3: top six. Sure, three is Josh Allen, four is Joe Burrow,

1641
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 3: five CJ. Stroud, and six Lamar Jackson. We'll go to CJ.

1642
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 3: Stroud at five higher, lower or just riight.

1643
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 2: Look, I like him as much as anybody. I think

1644
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 2: it's just a little too much too soon to have

1645
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 2: him number five. I would probably have him somewhere in

1646
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 2: the bottom half of the top ten based on what

1647
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 2: we saw as a rookie. Lamar should be ahead of him, absolutely,

1648
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurt should be ahead of him. Justin Herbert should

1649
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 2: be ahead of him. I mean we need to see

1650
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 2: it a little bit more. So. Yeah, to me, I

1651
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 2: think just a little too high, a little too ambitious,

1652
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: and honestly gibe that could be a theme for their

1653
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 2: whole team. They do feel like the too much, too

1654
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 2: soon operation. Now they can prove us all wrong by

1655
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 2: playing to the hype, but rarely do teams do that

1656
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 2: when they have all of this offseason hype. So I

1657
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 2: love I love him as a player, he's great. I

1658
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 2: love their operation. It's great. But this just seems a

1659
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 2: little too much. I would agree with that. I I

1660
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 2: don't know.

1661
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 3: I feel that like you. I feel that way about

1662
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 3: every time I hear about the Texans. They're going to

1663
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 3: be the NFL's darlings going into the season. Can they

1664
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 3: live up to the hype. That's going to be the

1665
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:58,719
Speaker 3: really big question.

1666
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, next higher or lower?

1667
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,799
Speaker 3: And by the way, Burrow four coming off the injury

1668
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 3: and Josh Allen three with I don't know what weapons

1669
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 3: you're throwing to.

1670
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 2: I'm more fine with Allen three than Burrow four based

1671
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 2: on the injury stuff with Burrow, Like Lamar should be

1672
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 2: up here, Yeah, Lamar is six, Yeah it's too low.

1673
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 3: Number seven is Jalen Hurts number eight? Deck Prescott higher?

1674
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 3: Lower or just right?

1675
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 2: What do we do with that?

1676
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 3: Tell you right behind him is justin Herbert at number nine?

1677
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's kind of appropriate because I kind

1678
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 2: of feel the same about both of them. Like you

1679
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 2: prove it. They both have been electric. I think both

1680
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 2: have been undone by incompetcency and coaching. They both have

1681
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 2: had a ton of weapons at various times. They both

1682
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 2: at times looked like the best player, best quarterback in

1683
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 2: the league, and yet you don't have the postseason success.

1684
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: So you know, to me, those two are kind of this. Obviously,

1685
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 2: Herbert's younger. I'd rather have Herbert than Prescott, but I

1686
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 2: do think that this is probably kind of the sweet

1687
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 2: spot a little bit for both of them. Is right

1688
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 2: in this vicinity again. I would just bring CJ down

1689
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: into this area.

1690
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 3: It's interesting for Herbert. Cody Benjamin says he's gotten flack

1691
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 3: recently for an inability to translate early career numbers into

1692
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 3: big time wins. Now his supporting cast has been swapped out,

1693
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,799
Speaker 3: but the arm is there, and new coach Jim Harbaugh

1694
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 3: should settle things down by prioritizing a tougher ground game.

1695
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if the ground game is a good

1696
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:37,839
Speaker 3: thing or bad thing for justin Herbert.

1697
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 2: Balance would probably help if they can have some balance.

1698
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 2: I mean people were able to just tee off on him,

1699
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,759
Speaker 2: but like he ignored the weapons thing in the draft.

1700
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 2: You know he drafted the offensive lineman, correct.

1701
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 3: I mean they went and got someone in the second round.

1702
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 8: But still next higher or lower?

1703
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 3: Number ten Jordan Love of the Green Bay Packers speaking

1704
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 3: of a guy that I just feel like is rocketing

1705
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 3: up the board and maybe there we should pump the

1706
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 3: brakes a it takes us to number eleven and the

1707
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 3: former QB of the Green Bay Packers now of the

1708
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 3: New York Football Jets coming back from injury, Aaron Rodgers.

1709
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 3: Higher lower or.

1710
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 2: Just right, he's coming off an Achilles. He's forty, like

1711
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 2: GoF should be higher. On where's Gough? GoF should be higher.

1712
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 3: Goff is number thirteen, right behind Aaron Rodgers is two,

1713
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 3: at Tagobiola at twelve and Golf at thirteen.

1714
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 2: I would move GoF up. I would probably because of injury,

1715
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 2: have Rogers down. I would put GoF maybe a head

1716
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 2: of Love too. I need to see a little bit

1717
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 2: more of him. I'm with you a little bit too much,

1718
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 2: too soon. Maybe I think Rogers probably down, just because

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01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 2: you have to factor in the injury. Looks just how

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01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 2: we factored in the injury with Burrow. You have to

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01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 2: factor in the injury with Rogers.

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01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 3: And Rogers age. Yes, for sure, let's be honest. I

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01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 3: mean Burrow age not really the issue. Rogers age issue

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01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 3: for sure.

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Speaker 8: Next higher lower?

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01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 3: So I mentioned Tua was twelve, Goff was thirteen. This

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01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 3: one was an interesting one. Fourteen was kirk Cousins. Okay,

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01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 3: higher lower, just right for Kirk Cousins.

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01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 2: All right, here's my problem I'm starting to have here

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01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 2: because I'm going through you're going through your list, and

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01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 2: I have not heard Stafford's name called.

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01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 3: He's number sixteen. Trevor Lawrence is fifteen.

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01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Stafford needs to go way around ten. Look

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01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 2: what he did last year. I mean they willed when

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01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 2: he was healthy, He willed them back to the postseason.

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01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 2: Like Stafford should be higher on this list, Lawrence is

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01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 2: probably an approve it situation, like I need you kind

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01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 2: of have to see it with him. Certainly it feels

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01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,759
Speaker 2: like he's better than the fifteenth best quarterback in the league.

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01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 2: But you know, you got to see it. The next

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01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: question I would have to you, he is is our

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01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 2: guy coming at some point on this list? Gibbe, he is?

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01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 3: He is number seventeen.

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01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 2: What do they say about it?

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01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 3: Another year, another inevitable gamble from Cleveland, hopefully that this time,

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01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 3: finally Watson will be healthy enough on and off the

1747
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,600
Speaker 3: field to justify the team's investment. He flashed as a

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01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 3: play extending passer in twenty twenty three, but only in

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01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 3: between abrupt and nagging injuries.

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01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 2: You should be a.

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01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 3: Little higher on this list. Agree, there's still some things

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01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 3: to prove. You know, you got to stay on the

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01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 3: field to stay healthy. And we've heard that from everybody,

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01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 3: including DeShawn this offseason.

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01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 2: I just I hope I know DeSean reads a lot

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01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 2: here's a lot. It's one of those things where like

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01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 2: my hunch is all this stuff is fueling him because

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01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 2: he's not He's not that far down. But I just

1759
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 2: haven't seen it in a while.

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01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no reason. I mean, I don't know. I

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01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 3: mean he can. He can be a top ten quarterback.

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01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:10,520
Speaker 3: He showed you last top five. Yeah, I mean that's

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01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 3: he just he's got to stay on the field. That's

1764
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 3: where that is. Uh, real quick. I just wanted to

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01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 3: go through a couple others here. I know we're up

1766
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 3: against the clock. Uh, number twenty three the highest rookie, Uh,

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01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams. Okay, they put him ahead of Anthony richardson.

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01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 4: J mc.

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01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 3: Jj McCarthy was twenty five.

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01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 2: I don't what. I'm not sure about that.

1771
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 3: J McCarthy's Derek Carr, Yeah, Derek Carr, Jacoby Brissette. They

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01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 3: have Jayden Daniels twenty eighth.

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01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 2: Where the hell is Bryce Young? U thirty one? Cheez?

1774
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 3: And his last Danny Dimes is number thirty two from.

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01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 2: The New York Football Giants.

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01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 3: Come on, you do that many times that we just

1777
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 3: took the Giants to the playoffs. So why is bo

1778
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:04,959
Speaker 3: Nick's ranked thirtieth, ahead.

1779
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 2: Of both of them. Yeah. And by the way, if

1780
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 2: Bryce Young we're in this draft last year, he would

1781
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 2: have went second behind Caleb Williams. That's the truth of it.

1782
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 3: Yep, got a little crazy on the back end there,

1783
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 3: and that is this week's higher lower.

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