WEBVTT - #111 - Jillian Jacqueline (Part 1) 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:05.960 In which Jillian jack Linson. So you always have the 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:10.040 coolest clothes, but what I know you do? You're actually 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:12.840 are we talking about my clothes? Well, because you're Ryan 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:17.560 Adams shirt. I were this to be funny because ahead 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.600 the first time that we interacted on social media, I 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:23.840 had well, this was like the second interaction. I had 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:25.400 sent you a picture. I was playing a show at 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:29.400 a venue that's right, Louis and St. Louis, and I sent, um, 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:31.880 you were playing with Bryan Adams. I was playing with 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:34.919 Ryan Adams that night, but you were on you were 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:36.879 going to be playing somewhere. So I was like, oh 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:39.960 my god to see your name. And and then you 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:41.559 wrote back and you're like, oh, what are you doing there? 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.440 And I said, I'm opening for Ryan Adams and and 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:48.839 you said, oh, like Summer of sixty nine. And I 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.400 thought you were being serious, and so I was. Of course, 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:54.000 I have the worst sense of humor, and so I 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.200 wrote back. I was like, oh, no, no no, that's that's 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:58.680 Brian Adams. This is Ryan Adams. And you're like, I 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.000 know that, were like the tim an idiot, had no 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:04.600 respect for me. The fact that you thought that I 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.240 was being serious meant you had no respect for anything 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.319 about me musically, I do, I really do. I think 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:11.840 you do. Because we had a chance to get to 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.319 know each other. I think I actually thought that a 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:17.120 lot of people and no disrespect to Ryan, but I 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.399 thought he might be like super under the radar and 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:21.720 like a lot of people don't know him. And I 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:24.720 didn't know that you were. Um, yeah, I guess I 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.800 didn't know that you knew a ton outside the country realm. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.320 I was just crazy because I'm want to compare this 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:35.600 to who from Daniel Bradbrey she came in. I only 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:37.560 know her from not the voice, right, I don't know 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:39.959 her from the voice Daniel Bradberry and most people know 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.280 her from the voice. Now, when you say you only 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.360 know me from country, I worked. I worked every other 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:49.000 format for way longer than I have any country. That's great. 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.280 But I love that because that means that I'm really 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:56.040 resonating where I am now. Because I did pop, alternative, 0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:00.040 I did hip hop, sports. Well, that yeah, that's it 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.160 gives you your edge. That's why you're cool here. Oh 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.760 I'm so cool. You're a cool guy in town. My 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.000 point was, I'm definitely not the cool guy. My point 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.200 was you're in a Ryan adom, sir, is that legit 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.320 like old school? Or no, this is new? This is 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:17.160 like from his last tour. Yeah. Um, I love his designs. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.680 He has really great designs. I'll get some, um retro 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.760 what do they call the T shirts? Vintage? Thank you? 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.639 I am. I don't even know the word. So when 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.440 I do awards shows, I have a stylist, it'll like 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:34.080 dress me because I'm color blind. Everything dark looks the 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:38.600 same to me. Dark. Well, I have to memorize colors, 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.640 so I know these are a shade of red pants 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.520 that I have on. And so I've always had this problem. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:46.639 So I have a stylist that comes and she'll pick 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.440 out clothes and say, no, that's a green, that's a black. 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.440 But I'll say, hey, I like the vintage T shirts. 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:55.600 And what she does is she finds real vintage T shirts. 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.920 But they're so expensive. Yeah they are. Yeah, they're like 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:02.160 double a normal T shirt price, maybe three or four 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.320 times too. And she won't tell me because what stylists do. 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.640 I've only learned this recently. Yeah is that. And I 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:09.760 have a great stylist and she's gonna have her own podcast. 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:13.160 But she'll she'll come and she'll say, here the clothes 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.120 you want, and I'll get a bill back like two 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.959 months later. And I was like, holy crap, that three 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:21.280 students shirt was like sixty eight dollars. That's my point 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.440 with that. But that's a new shirt. This is a 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.440 new one. But I have spent like I think the 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:29.320 most day spent was eighty bucks on a Judge shirt 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:33.880 from I have a nineteen I think eight nine toward 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:38.000 Judge T shirt. She's so good, their hair, everything that 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:39.520 she picked up because she knew I was a fan 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:43.360 of the Judge. I mean I was, yeah, I can't, 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.240 I can't. I a mumping them right now. Have you 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.160 hung out with Winona? I haven't. That would be pretty cool, 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.600 have you. Oh? I thought you had a great story. 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.240 I don't. But I was like obsessed with her as 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.560 a kid and her mom, both of them. I read 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.880 her book and everything. But yeah, they were some of 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:03.000 the like most eccentric characters. I feel like my mom 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.040 used to sing the Judge all the time. Which song? 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:14.080 I mean, which one tell me about? Yes, that's it 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:18.120 to me, that's my mom's singing. It was always the Judge. 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.680 Like when I think back about that, Yeah, and so 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.000 obviously I have an affinity for the judge because when 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.440 you think about being a kid, and I was born 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.240 in the eighties and they were a big deal kind 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.560 of to my kid years. Yeah, but I haven't. I 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:33.520 haven't been a shirt too that paid way too much 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.360 more that I haven't worried. Do you ever worried about 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.320 wearing them? Because there, if it's so cool, it might 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.599 be dead, like the shirt you killed the shirt because 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.920 you can't wear it anywhere else. No. I have that 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.920 problem with crazy suits. Oh, well with suits because yeah, 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.640 because if I have a suit for the CMA's last 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:53.400 year and it was not cheap, yeah, if it's that outrageous, though, 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.880 nobody will forget it. You know, if it's like some 0:04:55.880 --> 0:05:01.800 crazy color sparkles on it, but I can't wear it again. Yeah, 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.919 you gotta wear it's like a family reunion where nobody else. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:10.320 But everything's on Instagram now, So that's the problem, you 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.000 know these days. I don't know if guys have this problem, 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.120 but I feel like, as a girl and as an artist, 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.960 if I wear something and I put it on Instagram, 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:22.080 then I'm like dead, Yes, then it's dead. Then it's 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.520 really dead. So I always have to try to somehow 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.920 make it different. But you your style makes you intimidating. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.520 Why because it's really cool. But I told you the 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.000 first time I met you, I thought you were way cool. 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.880 And because I don't know, yeah, well then we started talking. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.160 I don't know that we knew each other before I said, Hey, 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.799 come out on the road and do shows. Did we Nope, 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.560 we had never met. So the story with me learning 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.320 your music is that there were other songwriters that you're 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:52.880 either friends of or their fans of yours. Yeah. I 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.400 heard that last night for the first time, and I 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.800 was like, how they're Morgan and Caitlin Smith, and you know, 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.240 they would say, hey, Jillian Jacklin is really great. You should, 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.360 you know, really listen to music that's really sweet. And 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:02.880 the first time that I listened to your music, I 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:04.440 was like, wow, I actually like her music, not just 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.279 for my job but for my personal taste. Like I 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.960 like your sound because it's cool and it's a little 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.599 bit throwback. It's a little total leftist center. And so 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:15.560 I don't know if you like the description of your 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.760 music or not. I appreciate any and all descriptions because 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:20.720 I don't know where to start. I get asked that 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.839 question all the time. How do you describe it? And 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:26.320 I I don't quite know how to put it into words. 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.440 It's like, it's just me, It's what I do. But anyway, 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.920 continue it was I was like, man, she's way cool, 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.160 so she's probably gonna be too cool. So I just said, hey, 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.680 come out and do some shows. And when you were 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.200 out playing with Ryan Adams and I saw your plans, 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:42.840 I was like, oh, man, she's about to come out 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.720 with the Raging Idiots. It gets no more polarof than 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:51.200 Ryan Adams to the Raging Idiots. But like I said, 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:55.840 you have sort of created this this you know, niche 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.920 in this market where you do something really unique and 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.919 you also word artists that nobody else is listening to. 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.839 So for me, it was an opportunity to obviously get 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.039 to know you, but kind of to you know, meet 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.800 your fans and play music for people that seem to 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.560 really want to hear new artists. And that was important 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.960 to me first and foremost. What's the difference in opening 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.360 for Ryan Adams and opening for me? Rus are actually 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.240 the same? Like full theaters? Yeah, it's like the same, 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.960 because yours were what three three thousand and four thousand 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.560 theaters to three. But so that was the vibe. I'll 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:33.200 only play theaters because I have to. When you're in 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:37.240 a chair, yeah, your attention is forward. Yeah, You're not 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.680 spending a lot time talking people behind you to the 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:43.200 side of you. So I want to captive audience me too, 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:45.960 and so that's that's why I only play theaters unless 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:50.200 the festival comes. Yeah. No, I that's you. And there 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.640 were some similarities with you with your shows and Ryan's, 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:59.360 but only to go ahead. Um no, what was the difference? Um? 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:03.280 I mean, I don't know. He's like there was a 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:10.960 lot of sage burning backstage. Yeah, yeah, I know. He 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.120 he like z ends out his whole backstage. So it's 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:16.440 like he brings a you know, a pac Man on 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.960 the road and then he burns like all this incense 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.240 and stuff like a video game. Yeah, like the full 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.840 pac Man video game, Like he brings it with him 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.800 and yeah, no he that was such a fluke thing anyway, 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:29.720 I mean that that happened. How does that happen? Did 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:31.920 he hear your music? Yeah? He heard my song hate 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.560 Me and uh I guess on Spotify and he messaged 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.560 me on Twitter and he was like, hey, did you 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:42.199 write this is this you singing? I'm like, yes, that's cool, right, 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.439 yeah yeah, Ryan at Oh I freaked out like the 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:50.200 gap from Summer sixty nine Robin Hood. Yeah, No, I 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.520 am a I am a huge, huge fan, like have 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.480 been for a long time. So of course that was crazy. 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.440 And then like a month later he had he had 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.400 slots opening up, and so my agent called me was like, hey, 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.560 Ryan Adams wants to know if you can be in 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.120 Minneapolis tomorrow and I was like, yes I can. Who 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:06.959 paid more for the opening? Because I think I paid 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:08.680 a thousand dollars a show? Did I pay more to 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.920 Ryan Adams? Pay more? You don't have to tell me 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:12.280 how much you paid. I just wonder who paid you 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:13.640 more to how much did you pay me a thousand 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.240 bucks a show? I feel like it was more than that. 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:16.840 You think he paid you more? No, I think you 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:22.000 think that. I won't pay anyone less than a thousand 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:23.959 bucks because I wanted them to make a little money 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.240 aside from just travel. Because it was a thousand he 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.640 paid a little bit more. He did. Come on, he's 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:31.840 probably making more than two. If I charge you more 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:33.800 for a ticket, that's what I gotta do. I gotta 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:37.199 take care of the artist better. Please, You're awesome. We 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.959 had a lot of fun. I'm fun right, so fun. 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.600 My point was some of the nicest people you have 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:47.959 around you. You surround yourself, so I surround like everybody 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.920 around me. Has to be just like they are every 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:59.000 everyone they are Mike d Eddie, like all sweet people. Yeah, yeah, Ellen, Yeah, 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:02.120 I love Ellen. It was I have a really great crew. Yeah, 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.600 you have to be awesome as a human to roll 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.520 on my team, all my teams, if it's my morning show, 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.320 the band, the standard crew. I mean you took my 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:18.280 tour manager. Wait a second, I forgot you a trick. No, 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:20.320 I didn't say it's a bad thing. I'm actually very 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.360 very happy for her. I have an awesome tour manager. 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.200 She's so great she is. Yeah, and I did call 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.760 you because I was happy that you you took her. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:30.280 I don't want to take her from you, No, I 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:31.760 would tell you. And if you can offer her a 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.680 better job to take. I only want people to have 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.960 great jobs and have great lives and careers. Well, well, 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.000 I don't know how great. It's not an upgrade, that's 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:40.840 for sure, because you put her on a tour bus. 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:42.800 She's going to be driving a van with me, so 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.199 we dropped sometimes if it's three or four hours, okay, 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.360 well we put a bus, you know, fancy plane. Yeah, 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.959 you know that stuff. I know you do. I got 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.320 the offer a couple of times. I couldn't make it happen, 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:57.040 and I wanted to, but I had more than people. 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.160 There are only so many seats. I know, I know, 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.040 but you did. So. I have a tour manager and 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.640 her name Titia. She's awesome. Did you meet her out 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.480 with me? Is that how you knew her? And then 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:10.040 Julian tried to hire him like she did hire her. Yeah, 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:11.800 but not. I don't think you hired her from me 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.640 at all. You're just using her outside of me. I think. 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.200 I think that's the case. Yeah, I think that's the case. 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.320 You know, speaking of private jets, I just learned that 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:25.520 artists will play shows like for these private jet companies 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.000 and barter for flight time. And I was like, people 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.880 in society, I will do this. That's the that's how 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.360 you get in, Like I just it's amazing. Without I 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.440 don't want to put him on. I would say his name, 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.400 but I think tell you after recording. He came to 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:39.600 me the other Day said he you should do more 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:44.199 of this. I have did deal and so are you 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.680 play shows and then they give you ours. That's crazy. 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:48.480 You don't pay any money. You may have to play 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.959 taxes on it. Okay, there's the one thing you can't 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:56.080 avoid taxes. Yeah, but it is amazing and I can't 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:57.600 say that happened. It's not a system. I just have 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:59.800 done that before and they go, hey, can I use 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:03.960 your services and exchange We'll give you our services. Yeah, 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:08.800 that's yes, it is great. Um. All my point was 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:13.240 was that you you seemed quite difficult to approach, and 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:14.679 then I said, you know what, I'm just gonna see 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:18.000 and then I was completely wrong. You're super You seem 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.480 super cool because you were super cool. Sometimes people look 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:25.320 super cool and they're they're they're a little difficult. Uh yeah, 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.960 I mean it's I know people will probably always say this, 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.760 but like I'm really not. I'm just no, no, I 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.120 vouch for that now. Yeah I'm not. But even your 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.840 artwork is cool, Like there's a vibe to you red 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:41.600 ro cool vibeeah. Yeah, well I love that stuff. That's 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.680 my one of my favorite parts of this is design. 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:48.560 I'm like a huge just I love all things that 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:52.719 have to do with um. I mean graphics and photography 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.080 and anything visual. I've just always loved that stuff. So 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.760 I do all of it myself, and I kind of 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.679 just tell you, yeah, most most of it. I mean 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.920 some stuff I can't actually do, like on Photoshop, so 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.079 I have someone from my label do it. So I 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:13.240 do Microsoft paint no old school in the computer with 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:17.400 the colors. Okay, we do a commercial, all right. Let 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.120 me talk about this. Blue Apron will come to your 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.000 house and in the box of Blue Apron that will 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.439 be some fresh, preportion ingredients and step by step recipes 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:28.240 that will come right to your door that can be 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.320 cooked and under forty five minutes. 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Yeah, So I remember I 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.600 was flying to Mexico that day and we went in 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.760 at like seven, What time show going? Well, I know 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:43.920 it starts to five, but you think you came in later. Yeah, 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.720 we came in and um, you had called us like 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.080 on a Monday, and it was a Wednesday or something, 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.760 and so you know, I had wanted to be on 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:55.120 your show for a long time, and I was like, 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.720 oh shit, okay, we're going in like in two days. 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.400 And I had never done that before. That's right. It 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.480 was your first ever radio You did the word ship. 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:06.640 You did that's right. And we were like, whoa, you 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.880 can't do that because on this you can say whatever 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.640 you want, because this isn't good because these airwaves aren't 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.600 regulated by the government. The government owns the radio airwaves 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:19.520 and they regulate them, right, and you were breaking the law, 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.360 but they don't put you in jail. They and I 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.800 had just come off a million dollar fine about ten 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.160 months prior. You didn't have famillion dollars. I got fined 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:31.280 a million of my company paid it for me. Okay, 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:35.160 I want pay. I mean, I guess that's a big plan. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.640 That's a multis like, but I cost my company a 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.520 million dollars for something you said, yeah, for something I 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.560 did on the air. And so when you came on 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:49.280 and you cursed, were like, but I brought you in. 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:51.800 Nobody had prepped me before I walked into the road. 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:53.360 I told you that was the best way to come 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:57.000 in because you weren't media trained. Yeah, and I haven't 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:00.760 been since them and you shouldn't be if you actually 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.880 have thoughts. I feel like you shouldn't be. The only 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.080 things that that real art and I say artists people 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.880 to have something to say creatively, maybe not speak it 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.040 or sing. But the only thing you should really be 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:16.000 trained on or the quirks if you go uh or 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:19.920 your mouth goes, or if you kept scratching yourself like 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:23.760 you just did for the whole the whole thing, just 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.960 like those are the little things that you should be 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.360 told about, right, Yeah, but you don't have those, so 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.440 you're good. So you came in. Here's what I remember 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:35.680 from this. You came in and you I was really nervous. 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:37.800 I couldn't tell Oh, yeah, I was very nervous. I 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:39.640 don't think we've done any shows together by then either. 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.280 And then I remember that I like had to put 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.320 the lyrics to rich Girl up on my iPhone and 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.080 I couldn't get my phone too. It was just and 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.360 I was like probably shaking and sweating, and I don't 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.600 you know what what sucks about me is that in 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.200 the same thing, I guess with anyone, I've been doing 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.080 it so long, I don't know what it's like to 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.800 come from the other side. Yeah, I get that. So 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.160 it's intimidating though walking into that room knowing who you 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:07.160 guys are. It is, yeah, because everybody has played that show, 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.840 like everyone important, and so when you finally get to 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:13.520 play the show, you're like, oh, I remember you came 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:15.919 in and again I was a big fan, so I said, hey, 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.879 I WI want you to play multiple songs, and I 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.040 think you played two of your own and a cover, 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.600 which is rare because most of the time, so my audience, 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:26.600 if they don't know an artist, what I like to 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:30.240 do is let them play a cover. So the audience goes, oh, 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.840 I'm familiar with the song they're playing, and I also 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:34.719 like what they're doing, so I'm gonna listen for their 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:38.240 original if anything else. Because some people will go covers 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.080 out my thing, and I go, that's great. But they 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.159 are my audiences thing for the most part, because they 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.679 could be warmed up to a new artist completely. I 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.840 understand that more now I have a very complicated relationship 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.479 with cover songs people do. Yeah, And I think I 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.600 was like just scarred as a child because I did 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:54.720 a lot of karaoke and like had to play weddings 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:58.200 and I just didn't. And with this age, of social media. 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.879 A lot of people I think can like they only 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.159 do covers, and then it just feels like, what do 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:06.199 you have to say personally? You know, I don't need 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.240 to see you sing someone else's song all the time, 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:10.679 So I tried to stay away from that. But I 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.280 get it. When an audience sees a show for the 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.920 first time, they have no idea who you are. They 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.080 get really excited when you play the cover song because 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:19.960 then they feel like they can identify with first of 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:23.120 all the song you picked. They're like, oh, okay, they 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.760 like that song too, that speaks to them. And then 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:27.639 if you do a really good job, then they've heard 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.080 an awesome version of that song that they've never heard. 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.960 So I am warming up to it now and I'm 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.080 having to learn more covers because the country audiences love them. 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:37.480 I don't think you should have to do a lot 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.720 of them, but for me on this show, because we 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:42.920 do about I think five million a week to listen 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.280 to the show, right, so I'm dealing with a major 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.520 audience at one time. And so even on the podcast 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:50.760 when the podcast is different, even the show podcast not 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.959 this one, because people can skip things, I have to 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:57.439 keep them when I'm live and if they change it, 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.919 then I may not get that as high of a ratings. 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.359 So in order, if someone plays an unknown song by 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:05.560 an unknown artist, people go check something else out. I 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.359 might come back. But if you play something they know, 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.359 you kind of lure them in to something that you 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.160 were doing now in the tone of your voice even 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:16.919 you know, like if they like the way you sound, 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.400 And you did Rich Girl, and it's fantastic. I don't 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.000 remember you're not having the lyrics. I just remember nailing it. 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.880 I remember you saying it a bad word. And then 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.439 you played two songs, and I remember that. And I 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:33.359 don't look at iTunes as much because the days of 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:37.359 downloading music are still up on us, but a lot 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.560 of people are, all the younger are streaming more than downloading. 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:42.600 But I looked at eye Twits, and both of the 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:44.720 songs that you played on the show, I just went boom, 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:47.560 and then they both jumped really high, which meant they 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.320 bought both songs, which meant they weren't just liking a song, 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.120