1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome back to another edition of Packers Unscripted 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: always by my trusted colleague Weston hod Kuitz. We are 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: back from a a summer hiatus and uh, training camp 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: is upon us west So I'll throw the opening line 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: of that hype song at you. Are you ready for this? No? No, no, 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: uh no no, it's exciting and uh, you know, I 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: got a chance to be at the shareholders meeting on 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: Monday and I was talking with Aaron Nageler from Cheese 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: Said TV about this. I mean, there is a certain 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: amount of change that you've almost feel the week that 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: training camp starts. And I would like to joke with 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: some of my family members that it's like there's five 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: seasons in Wisconsin where you know, there's spring, summer, training camp, fall, winter. 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: Like it's just the air taste a little bit different, 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: the sun hits you a little bit from a different angle. 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: It's an exciting time around lambau Field. And one of 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: the questions that I had from Mark Murphy was, you know, 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: just not just the return to normalcy, but just the 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: idea of being able to get the bikes out there again, 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: being able to to get fans really truly into this, 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: people not having to ask the question anymore about hey, 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: are we allowed? Are we not allowed? It's gonna, i think, 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, feel a lot more like 25 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: a traditional training camp, and for me, that's something I'm 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: very grateful for. Yeah, absolutely, the return to normal as 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: best we can under the current circumstances. Well, the first 28 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: practice of training camp is scheduled for Wednesday morning, that 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: is when camp for the Packers kicks off. So we'll 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: try to set the stage here a little bit with 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: regard to some of the news that has come out 32 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: been reported in the last few days with regard to 33 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: players who are going to begin training camp on the 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: PUP list, which is which stands for physically unable to perform. 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 1: It's players who will not be practicing at the start 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: of training camp, and it's routine for anybody who doesn't 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: pass a physical, doesn't pass a conditioning test, whatever. There 38 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: could be any number of reasons they aren't going to 39 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: be out there the first day of practice. They will 40 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: be on the PUP list. Two players in particular, because 41 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: of position groups that we've spent a lot of time 42 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: talking about two players who are going to be on 43 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: the pup list to start camp, David Baktier and rookie 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver Christian Watson. Starting on the offensive line, this 45 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: throws a little bit of a wrinkle into maybe where 46 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: we thought training camp was going to go with regard 47 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: to the offensive line, because in my mind, I was picturing, Okay, 48 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: you get your five time All Pro back at left tackle, 49 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: and then you see how it shakes out at right tackle, 50 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: right yosh Naiman, maybe Sean Ryan's and the mixed Royce Newman. 51 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: There could be some different guys fighting for that right 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: tackle spot. Well, if bok tr is not going to 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: be practicing, I'm assuming most likely yosh Naiman is going 54 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: to be the left tackle with the number one offense here. 55 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: As training camp gets going, you still got to have that, 56 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, an experience against guy there on on Aaron 57 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: Rodgers blindside, even when it's just a training camp practice. 58 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: So then we'll see what happens with regard then to 59 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: the competition at right tackle and how it begins. That 60 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: being said, they're not going to be in pads for 61 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: a handful of days here yet with regard to uh 62 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: to the all the players and alignment and the contact 63 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: in particular. But what's your sense of just kind of 64 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: where things are going here on the offensive line right now? Yeah, 65 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: that was when when you go back to the off 66 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: season program, you know, Yash ended up playing quite a 67 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: bit at left tackle, probably more than I was anticipating, 68 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: regardless of whether or not box tr he was out there. 69 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: I just was wondering if they would give him more 70 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: reps at the right side. My guess is knowing the 71 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: way that Adam Sanovich looks at this thing, obviously, Luke 72 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: buck has being a disciple of that is, let's let's 73 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: get our guys out there, let's put them in positions 74 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: to be comfortable, and then once you you know, if 75 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: you've got to do some positional versatility there, if you 76 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: gotta do some cross training there. They've obviously been really 77 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: ept at doing that as well. So, but Nieman is 78 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: the guy I guess, to me I've always sort of 79 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: had penciled in is the right tackle. Um, the real 80 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: big quite sh mark in this entire equation is Royce Newman, 81 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: because you you almost I look at Newman the same 82 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: way I looked at Billy Turner coming out of his 83 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: second or his first year in Green Bay in two 84 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. He played guard last year, but you know, 85 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: he also has a tackle frame, And there's been an 86 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: idea in the background mind too that Okay, maybe that 87 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: right tackle competition comes down to a Nieman and a Newman. 88 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: But then are you are you doing a disservice to 89 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: Newman by not letting him retain his starting position at 90 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: right guard. That's the number one question I think the 91 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: Packers are gonna have to answer this spring this summer's 92 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: where is Royce Newman playing? Where do you want to 93 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: see him line up? He started at tackle last year 94 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: and then they ended up moving him to right guard 95 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: when there were some issues there early in camp at 96 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: that position. Once the Newman kind of question gets answered, 97 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: I think that's where the rest falls in line with Nieman, 98 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: with these rookies that came in, you know, because that's 99 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: the thing and I wrote about in our position by 100 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: position series. There are nine draft picks I think on 101 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: this team. I mean, they have invested so many resources 102 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: into that position. Not to mention a guy like Cole 103 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: Van Landing from Bayport that was taking some reps with 104 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: the first team unit at tackle this this past spring. 105 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: So that is really to me going to be the 106 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: number one question is because I feel like you can 107 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: look at eight different versions of this offensive line and honestly, 108 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: I believe all of them is potentially be in the 109 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: week one line up. Yeah, I agree with you on 110 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: that point, and also with regard to sort of where 111 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: is Newman going to fit best in this equation now? 112 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: And granted we don't know how much of training camp 113 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: David Bactieri is gonna miss, hopefully it's not a lot. 114 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: But Newman when he was drafted in the fourth round 115 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: out of Old Miss, he was brought in as a 116 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: guy who played plenty of tackle and plenty of guard 117 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: in college. This is a guy the Packers felt, like 118 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: you said with Billy Turner, who could play both spots, 119 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: and they're going to find maybe where he fits best. 120 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: Now you have that third round rookie and Sean Ryan 121 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: in the mix here. Now, this is a guy who 122 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: played a lot of tackle in college at U c. 123 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: L A. But yet you look at you talked about 124 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: Newman maybe having that build of a tackle, Ryan almost 125 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: looks like he has more the build of a guard 126 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: as opposed to a tackle. Now, that's not to say 127 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: that that's absolutely a hundred percent where he's going to go. 128 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: But if Royce Newman is taking more reps at right tackle, 129 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: that potentially opens the door for Sean Ryan to get 130 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: some more reps with the upper units in in practice 131 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: UM at a guard spot. And then and then we 132 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: see what happens here at this time last year. Neither 133 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: you nor i, as we had talked about on our 134 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: last show before we took our break, we weren't talking 135 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: about Royce Newman being in the starting line up here 136 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers. So we just don't know 137 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: exactly how this is going to shake out. And then obviously, 138 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: when David Bati gets back um on the practice field 139 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: on a full time basis, that's going to you know, 140 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: set off a string at Domino, so to speak. As 141 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: far as how this is going to fall into play. Yeah, 142 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: getting a chance to talk with Sean Ryan this offseason, 143 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean you get an idea how big this guy is. 144 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: I mean I almost equate him almost. He's a large 145 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: aversion of Lane Taylor where he has that's a good 146 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: way to put big, well proportioned body. But he's also 147 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: six five, I mean, so It's funny just the transition 148 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: that you've seen with offensive lineman over the years. The 149 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: Packers now have a center that's six five, they have 150 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: a guard that's that's six five. You know, they have 151 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: these guys that can The reason we talked about the 152 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: position and where these guys could fit because their bodies 153 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: almost are more like your traditional tackles. But yet now 154 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: you're seeing more of those guys push inside. This isn't 155 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: the six ft two center game anymore. It's it's kind 156 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: of changed a little bit in that regard. But again, 157 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: major things the Packers are gonna have to shift out, 158 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: and I promise you the way that that offensive line 159 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: looks this first week of practice is undoubtedly not going 160 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: to be the way it looks at the end of camp. Yeah. 161 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely Well. With regard to the wide receiver competition, we 162 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time talking about it through the spring. 163 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: Christian Watson, the rookie second round pick out of North 164 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: Dakota State, will not be on the practice field at 165 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: the start of training camp. Going to be interesting to 166 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: see what this means then for Romeo Dobbs, the fourth 167 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: round pick out of Nevada, for Samari too A the 168 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: seventh round pick out of Nebraska. Also what it means 169 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: for the what I what I call sort of the 170 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: holdover group, These guys who have been on the roster, 171 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: they've gotten their feet wet in the NFL, but they're 172 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: still trying to establish themselves. And of course I'm talking 173 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: about guys like Juwann Winfree, Malik Taylor. And there's another 174 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: one that whose name is escaping me at the moment. Yes, 175 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: Amari Rodgers. Well actually there was another one too, but 176 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: Amari Rodgers third round pick last year, didn't have the 177 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: rookie season that he was hoping for a lot of 178 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: positive signs um here in the spring. So with Christian 179 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: Watson not on the field early on, again, it's you know, 180 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: one one man's misfortune can be another man's opportunity in 181 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: this league. So we'll just have to see. We'll just 182 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: have to see what happens. Did you see Jowan Winfree, Yes? 183 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: I did, Jan Winfree, Yeah, Milik Taylor, Amari Rodgers, and 184 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: then uh Danny Davis from Wisconsin. Maybe maybe maybe I 185 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: was in Randall Cobb. Yeah, that's not quite the same. Um. 186 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: I I don't know if you saw the tweet I 187 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: found it very interesting because again I wrote one of 188 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: the stories on him in the spring, you know, Amari 189 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: Rogers saying that he's reported a camp a two hund 190 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: two pounds. Uh. That was his goal. He wanted to 191 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: get lighter. He said he played as heavy I think 192 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: is maybe to sixteen to seventeen last year. He wanted 193 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: to get back to being himself. He is the number 194 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: one player I think on this offense that nobody's talking 195 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: about in terms of that could potentially make a big 196 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: impact this year. And the reason I say that is 197 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: because since day one, when you look at how they 198 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: build that jet motion receiver, that guy that can kind 199 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: of do it all in this offense, Mari Marie Rogers, 200 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: he checks all those boxes. This is gonna be a 201 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: huge camp for him because I think the opportunity is 202 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: going to be there. But more than anything else, Mike, 203 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: I think the guy that we're going to be seeing 204 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: the most is Alan Lazard because Alan Lazard is the 205 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: guy that I think when you look at how this 206 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: roster has configured, Yes, he brought in Sammy Watkins, Yes, 207 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: you saw guy like Randall Cob really turned it up 208 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: last season and get back into the fold and show 209 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: that he still can be a real asset to this offense. 210 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: But Lazard is in the prime of his career. He's 211 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: coming off an eight touchdown season, and he's now going 212 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: to get a chance to be one of the first 213 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 1: guys that Aaron Rodgers is gonna be looking towards. He's 214 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: gonna be one of the at the guys that are 215 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: going to be one of the focal points of this offense. 216 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: And I'm really excited for him in that regard. You saw, 217 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: I know you're big on Instagram, you know some of 218 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: these photos that Lazard has put up. I mean, he 219 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: looks to be in incredible physical shape right now, and 220 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: I just to me, that's the guy that I think 221 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: is really going to be the catalyst in someone that 222 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: if he stays healthy, this is his chance to prove 223 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: that he can be a number one receiver. Well, we 224 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: heard we heard Aaron Rodgers in the spring when he 225 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 1: was here for Mini camp, and he talked about it 226 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: how excited he was to see what Alan Lazard is 227 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: going to do when he's given the opportunity to compete 228 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: to be a true number one receiver in this offense. 229 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: He knows the offense it's not a matter of learning 230 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: the playbook or having to having to study things any differently. 231 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: But it's going to be where he lines up, where 232 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: he is in the progression. Obviously, we're going to see 233 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: what happens with Sammy Watkins with him getting thrown into 234 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: the mix here as a veteran wide receiver who's accomplished 235 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: a lot in the NFL UM trying to revive rejuvenate 236 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: his career a little bit. You mentioned Randall Cobb. He's, 237 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, kind of the old stand by, the old 238 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: reliable for Aaron Rodgers. Right, Rogers knows exactly where Cobb 239 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: is going to be and when at at certain times. 240 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: But how all this fits together If training camp does 241 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: indeed start as Rogers was projecting that the top three 242 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: guys at wide receiver are Lazard, Cobb, and Watkins, whatever 243 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: order you want to put him in, then it's just 244 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: going to be a matter of all these other young guys, 245 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: first and second year guys, the rookies all in that 246 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: mix competing with each other to see, like, Okay, who's 247 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: going to who's gonna be the guy that gets that 248 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: one day somewhere in August to get all his reps 249 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: with the number one offense as opposed to being with 250 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: the twos or with the threes, Right, Like, that's what 251 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: these guy as you're going to be are going to 252 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: be fighting for because we know when it comes to 253 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: the preseason games, there are certain guys who are probably 254 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: not going to play. Um, those guys are going to 255 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: get their The younger guys are going to get their 256 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: opportunities in the preseason games. But what do they do 257 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: in practice to give themselves those opportunities? With Aaron Rodgers 258 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: taking the snaps, right, that's what we'll be watching. Samari 259 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: to Ray is a name that I'm going to have 260 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: on my clipboard on my notebook throughout this camp, throughout 261 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: the preseason because I'm gonna tell you this, in offseason 262 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: program does not make a career. It does not make 263 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: you a fifty three man roster. To Ray did every 264 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: single thing he could do is a seventh round pick 265 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: to get noticed in the spring. Because you're not given 266 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: much benefit of the doubt, You're not going to be 267 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: given a lot of time in a lot of cases. 268 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is Green Bay, but there's a 269 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: lot of places in the NFL they're looking for a 270 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: reason to keep their seventh round pick on a practice 271 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 1: squad to Ray the way he played the fact that 272 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: he caught everything that was thrown to him. Maybe he 273 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: had one drop on a maybe a route on air, 274 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: I think, but otherwise in terms of the team periods, 275 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: the kid performed in Romeo Dobbs, same thing. This guy 276 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 1: coming out in Nevada tons of production in college, was 277 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: a complete ball hawk and playmaker in these training the 278 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: offseason practices. Now let me also add the condition here 279 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: that Alexander was not out there. Rasul Douglas often wasn't 280 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: out there. They didn't have their top to the line 281 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: of cornerbacks and safeties. You've got to be able to, 282 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, cushion that a little bit. But these guys 283 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: need to be able to show that they can make plays. 284 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: And they did it against their peers. And that's one 285 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: of the reasons why this year, this training camp, these receivers, 286 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: it is going to be fun to watch. Yeah, certainly 287 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: won't be the last time over the next month that 288 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: we're talking about the wide receiver position. I'll take care 289 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: of some sponsor business here. West Serious x M. NFL 290 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the minute 291 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: NFL news that true football fanatics need seven three sixty 292 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: five and had cousin subs. 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Really, 302 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: to me, it's Quay Walker. Yeah, I think so too, 303 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: in the fact of where is this guy gonna be, 304 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: how are they going to utilize him, and how quickly 305 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: are they going to look for him to be a 306 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: starter in this unit. We saw him rotating with the 307 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: starters in the off season program. Again, that doesn't tell 308 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: you everything, but it does say something because historically that's 309 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: not been a thing that has happened a lot in 310 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: Green Bay, especially with Devondre Campbell and Chris Barnes both 311 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: being here. For the offseason program. It's not like there 312 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: was not enough options there, So hey, let's throw a Walker. 313 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: All the Packers have some expectations for this young man 314 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: six ft four pounds. You and I got the visual 315 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: of what it looks like he's lining up next to 316 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: Campbell behind the defensive line. It's imposing the biggest thing here. 317 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a lot about. Okay, how is the 318 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: offense gonna, you know, do without Davante Adams. So what 319 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: is rich Bisacci gonna do on special teams? How can 320 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: they improve in those facets? The defense has been the 321 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: story since the day the season ended, and especially after 322 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: Wessel Douglas and Devandre Campbell signed, the defense has been 323 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: the story. These are the most weapons, These are the 324 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: most draft picks. This is the most investment green Bay 325 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: has made it at that side of the ball. Into 326 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: Joe Barry's credit, they made the most of it last year. 327 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: Can you see them take that jump and if they do, 328 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: Kway Walker is the type of player that they didn't 329 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: have in this defense last year. That's not a dig 330 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: against Chris Barnes. I'm saying in terms of just a player, linebacker, athlete. 331 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: This guy's a difference maker, and that that's the part 332 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: of it I'm excited to see, especially being able to 333 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: work under the learning tree of Deavandre Campbell, which has 334 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: already kind of integrated himself to into you know, in 335 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: the off season. Well, certainly with the way last season 336 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: ended and is disappointing as it was. The season ends 337 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: with that big thud of a loss against the San 338 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners and the playoffs. The reason we've been 339 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: talking about the defense all off season not just because 340 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: the two first round picks were both spent on defense 341 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: and on two guys from that Georgia Bulldocks National championship team, 342 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, Kay Walker and Davonte Wyatt on the defensive line. 343 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: It's because that defense reached a peak last season right 344 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: at the time you wanted to reach a peak. Now, 345 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: is it going to be able to just pick up 346 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: where it left off in Week one? I mean, that's 347 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: not how this league works, right, But everything about the 348 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: everything about the progression and the trajectory of the defense, 349 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: even in dealing with Jaye Alexander's injury and other guys 350 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: being in and out of the lineup, the defense got 351 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: exactly where it needed to be last January um for 352 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: the Packers to to get where they wanted to go, 353 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: and other the other phases of things didn't fall into place. 354 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: But that's why so much attention has been on the defense, 355 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: and everybody's really really excited. Then you throw in Kway 356 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: Walker and Devontae Wyatt on a defensive line where you 357 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: not only spend a late first round pick, you spent 358 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: a first round pick on that position group for the 359 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: first time since Kenny Clark, but you also brought in 360 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: a free agent in Jaren Reid who spent five seasons 361 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: in Seattle, spent a season in Kansas City. This is 362 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: a this is a productive guy. I like to call 363 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: him the been there, done that guys, right. I mean, 364 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: he's he's been, He's been in playoff games, He's produced. 365 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: The track record is there, he's been healthy, hasn't had 366 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, an injury, pockmark career, anything like that. This 367 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: is a This is a defensive line. This is a 368 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: defensive line that's as deep as I've seen it in 369 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: a long time. And then you talk about that imposing 370 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: look of Campbell and Walker to six ft four guys 371 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: um as those two inside linebackers there's a there's a 372 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: lot of excitement about this defense, and for good reason. 373 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: All that being said, we may not really see what 374 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: this defense looks like for a while because a lot 375 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: guys aren't gonna play in the preseason games. They're gonna 376 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: go through camp. We're going to see him in the 377 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: eleven on elevens. We're gonna we're gonna try to glean 378 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: what we can from it. But Week one in some 379 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: in some respects can't get here soon enough as far 380 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: as just where is this Packers defense considering where it 381 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: left off last January. And that's where it's going to 382 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: be exciting too, because I do think for a first 383 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: round pick, I think you are going to see Davonte 384 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: Wyatt play in a lot in preseason. I think you're 385 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: gonna see I mean t J. Slayton and Jonathan Ford. 386 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: I mean they might need to work on their their 387 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: cardio a little bit. Those those those guys might those 388 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: guys might get might get a lot of snaps in 389 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: these three games in August, that's for sure. And and 390 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: that's the exciting part of it because Kenny Clark, you're 391 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: not going to see out there, you know, Dean Lawry, 392 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't imagine, especially with Dean I think he's he's 393 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: on PUP two. Yeah, Lowry is one of the defensive starters. 394 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: Who who is going to begin camp on pup and 395 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: Jaren Reed I wouldn't imagine. Maybe you get some work, 396 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be allowed those young guys, and that's 397 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: gonna be their time to shine. Because as much as 398 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: we talk about rotation, as much as we talk about 399 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: being able to keep guys fresh, what is is really about? 400 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: To me? It's about how are we going to be 401 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: able to make Kenny Clark's life even easier to allow 402 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: him to be the playmaker I think everybody knows he 403 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: can be. Clarke has worn so many hats for this 404 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: defense over the years. He's been their top run stuffer 405 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: and their top interior pass rusher. Can you can you 406 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: start to pick and choose? Can you start to figure 407 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: out where other guys might be able to step up 408 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: so you get more out of Kenny in this fast 409 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: Can you take some double teams off of him? That's 410 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: the really exciting part, especially seeing how Dean Lawry developed 411 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: last year and with him having the best year of 412 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: his career, that again, the sky is the limit for 413 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: for so many different facets of that defense. Well, before 414 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: we go, want to touch a little bit on the 415 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 1: third phase of things as well with regard to uh 416 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: special teams, because right at the beginning of this week, 417 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: the Packers made another addition there and a very similar 418 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: addition to one they made much earlier in the off season. 419 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: And I'm talking about signing a reserve defensive back from 420 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: the Raiders who has a lot of experience on special 421 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: teams and a lot of familiarity with Rich Bisaccio, the 422 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: new Packers special teams coordinator. Interesting how the Packers have 423 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: have gone about, you know, not only looking to to 424 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: revamp the special teams, but then but then also finding 425 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: guys that they believe they can that that if all 426 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: goes well, they'll be able to slot in as some 427 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: of these depth pieces in the defensive backfield. And uh, 428 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: these are two guys from everything that we know, and 429 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking about case Keishan Nixon and Dallen Levitt, Levitt 430 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: being the new signing this week that, um, these are 431 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: guys that have have almost the same what do you 432 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: call it track record in the NFL in terms of 433 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: in terms of they haven't been starters, but they've been 434 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: very active reserve players in the defensive backfield for the Raiders, 435 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: and they've done a heck of a lot of work 436 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: on special teams working under Bessaccio. Yeah, and it's not 437 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: like Levitt was just sitting out there either. I mean 438 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 1: the Raiders just let them go last weeks. So obviously 439 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: the Packers jumped on that quickly. We haven't a chance 440 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: to talk to rich Bisacci, but you have to imagine 441 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: he plays to call there being like, hey, this is 442 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: a guy that could really help us. And the part 443 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: of it that's exciting is you look at Keishaw Nixon. 444 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: Let's start there from day one when he got nontendered 445 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: by the Raiders and they made the Packers made such 446 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: a point to sign him. It would have been one 447 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: thing if you just brought him in. It's like, Okay, 448 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: this is a rich Bisacci guy. This is the guy 449 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: that's gonna help us on the core four units. No, 450 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: I mean Joe Barry was using him as his dime 451 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: cornerback to it shows you that they feel like there's 452 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: more to this guy than just the past history with Pisacci, 453 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: that this is a young man twenty five years old, 454 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: good size for the position. You know, maybe not the 455 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: typical hype, but you know, really good frame for the 456 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: safety spot that he could potentially help them up near 457 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. And then you look at Levitt, 458 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: guy had his career high special teams tackles last year 459 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: had twelve. Another Eggie. The Packers have had tons of those, 460 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, Utah State guys over the years. I believe 461 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: he might have been a teammate of Kyler Facker. I 462 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: gotta go back and look at that. But this guy 463 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: same to typical kind of frame. I mentioned the offseason program. 464 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: Mike and I wrote about this an inbox too, and 465 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: you and I discussed it that that Sean Richardsinson type 466 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: safety where it's a guy that has a good frame 467 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: for the position. You can see how he could fit 468 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: into all these different special teams units. That's without knowing 469 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: a lot about Lovett. That's one of the things that 470 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: really spoke to me. And his addition comes at a 471 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: position where the Packers didn't really have anybody with NFL experience, 472 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: extensive NFL experience behind the starters and Adrian Amos and 473 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: Darnell Savage. They're adding pieces where they needed obviously special 474 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: teams helped to improve those units, but also guys that 475 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: could potentially factor into the defense as well. Yeah. Absolutely, 476 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: And and here I want to close on I guess 477 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: what I'll call the my my grain assault moments of 478 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: the week, all right, because there are a lot of 479 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: fans obviously there's there's there's angst and and nervousness and 480 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: everything with regard to what's happening on special teams and 481 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: how is Rich Pasacci going to fix all of this? 482 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: And Packers fans are gonna want to turn and on 483 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: that first preseason game and see that the special teams 484 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: are all fixed. Right, So my, my, my sort of 485 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: take this. You know, all of this, uh, this hype 486 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: with regard to the special teams, the grain assault part 487 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: of it is Rich Pisacci has been doing this for 488 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: a long time. My the sense that I get, and 489 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: I could be way off base here, but the sense 490 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: that I get with how the ninety man roster has 491 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: been built, with what we saw in the spring, with 492 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: how he was trying out all different different guys, all 493 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: kinds of different guys that returner and gunner and all 494 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: of these different things that they were working on. Rich 495 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: Pisacci knows what he wants it to look like and 496 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: how he's going to coach this team through the season. 497 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: I think he's going to use training camp and the 498 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: preseason games to find the guys that he wants. You know, 499 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: it's not going to be about the finished product on 500 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: the field in the preseason to get ready for the 501 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: regular season. Getting ready for the regular season for Rich 502 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: Pisacci is I want to find the right guys. And 503 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: then when I have all the right guys and we've 504 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: made the decis visions on who they're gonna be, now 505 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna now I'm going to coach them and and 506 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna get this thing to where we want to 507 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: look like. So I just want to say that with 508 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: regard to um, you know, the preseason, because there's gonna 509 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: be a lot of talk out there on the first 510 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: punt coverage, the first kickoff coverage, everything in that first 511 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: preseason game. We just have to take a step back 512 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: for a moment. And the other thing I have to 513 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: say to another grain assault moment of the week is 514 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: as excited as we are for training camp, it's here. 515 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: The season's gonna get rolling. The first handful of days 516 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: are gonna be without pads. These are really gonna be 517 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: just glorified O t A practices with like bigger crowds 518 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: and fans cheering and all that. And that's all gonna 519 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: be great. But we still have to wait several days 520 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: before before the pads go on, before the one on 521 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: one pass rush, pass protection drill, you know, we see 522 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: that kind of hitting and and uh um. So it's 523 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: it's just yes, there's a lot of excitement right now, 524 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: but the real work hasn't quite It will start as 525 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: soon as I had to Canton, and then they'll be 526 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: good to go. Then it's all good to go. I 527 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: do want to say this though, will close on this. 528 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: With the special teams, You're absolutely hundher percent right. It 529 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: is going to be a process. You do have to build. 530 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: The one thing though, if you're a Packer fan you 531 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: have to be excited about, is the fact that Packers 532 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: fan wanted changes on special teams. They got it. Yeah, 533 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: there's a new coordinator, Brian, you know Byron Storer, his assistant, 534 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: Besach's assistant, a new assistant to him. They had their 535 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 1: top four guys I think in playing time were all 536 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: they've moved on or they departed. This is going to 537 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: be a different unit and it's going to look differently now. 538 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: It's can you build a different and re established that 539 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: identity that that's going to be the challenge. Yeah. Absolutely, 540 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: Well with that, we'll call it a wrap on this 541 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of 542 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: our coverage of the team training camp kicks off on Wednesday. 543 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: We will be there for every practice, all kinds of stories, videos, 544 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: Packers dot com is going to be full of content, folks, 545 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: you won't want to miss it. So for Wes, I 546 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: am Mike. Thank you for tuning in. Everybody, We will 547 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: see you next time.