WEBVTT - Chapter 3: B.J. (Before Jenna) 

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<v Speaker 1>The eighties were the golden age of porn. Everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>treated so well and we were all so close. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just beautiful. Jinger and Allen performer.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just another option for adults. I believe people make

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<v Speaker 2>decisions for themselves. It's not for me or anyone else

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<v Speaker 2>to pass any kind of world judgment. We make movies

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<v Speaker 2>that people want to watch them. We'll continue to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Hirsch, Vivid Video Founder.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody in the modern era of the adult industry has

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<v Speaker 3>been more innovative in mainstreaming their company image than Vivid.

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<v Speaker 3>That made them one of the premier brands in all

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<v Speaker 3>of Hollywood. Adults or otherwise. Paul Fishbeind, Adult Video News Founder.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to Jenna World. Welcome back. I'm your host, Molly Lambert.

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<v Speaker 4>This is episode three ej Before Jenna. Pacific Palisades, nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>eighty four. At a seafood restaurant off the Pacific Coast

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<v Speaker 4>Highway called Gladstone's at the Beach, a twenty two year

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<v Speaker 4>old five foot six, brown haired Jewish kid from the

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<v Speaker 4>valley named Stephen Hirsh a Gemini and his girlfriend Bren

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<v Speaker 4>are meeting up with twenty one year old five foot

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<v Speaker 4>four blonde Sagittarius ginger Lynn Allen ginger Lynn has been

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<v Speaker 4>doing adult movies for a year. Stephen Hirsh is a

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<v Speaker 4>fan of her work who wants to make her an offer.

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<v Speaker 4>She agrees to hear him out in exchange for his

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<v Speaker 4>promise of endless crab legs, her favorite and an ocean

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<v Speaker 4>front view. Ginger Lynn arrives in a lace dress and

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<v Speaker 4>heels to meet Stephen and Wren at a wooden picnic

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<v Speaker 4>table on Gladstone's outdoor deck, overlooking will Rogers State Beach,

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<v Speaker 4>named for the vaudeville cowboy turned radio star. At twenty

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<v Speaker 4>two years old, Stephen Hirsch is already a second generation pornographer.

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<v Speaker 4>His father, Fred Hirsch, is a prominent distributor of eight

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<v Speaker 4>millimeter stag films, which are short films that are at

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<v Speaker 4>most ten minutes long, have no sound, and depict hardcore

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<v Speaker 4>sexual acts. Stag films were creditless, with no director, stars,

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<v Speaker 4>or film crew credited. Because pornographic films were then legal

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<v Speaker 4>to make or show. They screened stag films clandestinely at fraternities, brothels,

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<v Speaker 4>and men's clubs. Fred Hirsch was a stockbroker first, but

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<v Speaker 4>after Wall Street crashed in nineteen sixty two, he decided

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<v Speaker 4>to shift gears. When Stephen Hirsh is eleven years old,

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<v Speaker 4>his father Fred gathers the family in their living room

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<v Speaker 4>to tell them he's embarking on a new career path

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<v Speaker 4>selling pornographic film reels for a company called Sovereign News.

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<v Speaker 4>All of this takes place not in Horney, liberal California,

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<v Speaker 4>but in horny, conservative Cleveland, Ohio. Their father warns young

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<v Speaker 4>Stephen and his sister Marcy that other kids might not

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<v Speaker 4>accept them if their parents find out what the Hirsh

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<v Speaker 4>kid's dad does for a living.

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<v Speaker 5>My biggest concern was what I would tell my friends.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a hard time Marcy Hirsch, Stephen's sister.

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<v Speaker 2>I was okay with that. If they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be friends with us, I didn't want to be friends

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<v Speaker 2>with them.

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<v Speaker 4>Sovereign News Corporation, the company who give Fred Hirsch his

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<v Speaker 4>new career selling eight non elimeter stagfilms, is owned by

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<v Speaker 4>a Cleveland born businessman named Ruben Sterman, A Leo. The

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<v Speaker 4>son of Russian Jewish immigrants, Sterman starts selling comic books

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<v Speaker 4>out of the trunk of his car in the late

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen forties, he parlays his comic book hustle into a

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<v Speaker 4>wholesale business, distributing comic books, tobacco, and candy to newsstands.

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<v Speaker 4>He adds adult magazines to the roster in the early sixties,

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<v Speaker 4>and their profits quickly surpass his other wares. Rubin Sterman

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<v Speaker 4>has been called the Walt Disney of porn for doing

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<v Speaker 4>for sex magazines what Walt Disney did for animation, fostering

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<v Speaker 4>a new American national pastime, selling a wildly lucrative form

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<v Speaker 4>of escapism to the masses Mickey mouse or naked chicks.

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<v Speaker 4>At the end of the day, it's all just a

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<v Speaker 4>way to leave behind the miserable drudgery of real life

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<v Speaker 4>for a fantasy realm. In nineteen sixty four, Ruben Sterman

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<v Speaker 4>gets raided by the FBI for the first time. They

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<v Speaker 4>bust one of his Cleveland warehouses to confiscate a dirty

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<v Speaker 4>book called sex Life of a Cop. He fights prosecution

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<v Speaker 4>by filing countersuits and working under aliases to protect himself

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<v Speaker 4>against the government's inquest into citizens, minds and pants. Stermin

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<v Speaker 4>links with the Gambino crime family. Sterman also establishes the

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<v Speaker 4>first legal adult bookstores in the US adult bookstores, which

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<v Speaker 4>naturally began in nineteen twenties Europe, were de facto banned

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<v Speaker 4>in America, but sexual media still flowed underground. A series

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<v Speaker 4>of First Amendment related Supreme Court rulings legalized sex shops nationally,

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<v Speaker 4>allowing Reuben Sterman to legally set up business. Local jurisdictions

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<v Speaker 4>still limit zoning to push sex shops into unofficial red

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<v Speaker 4>light districts on the outskirts of town, which is why

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<v Speaker 4>you often see them way out off random freeway exits.

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<v Speaker 4>By the late nineteen sixties, Juevern NewsCorp. Is the number

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<v Speaker 4>one distributor of adult magazines in America. They're also under

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<v Speaker 4>constant threat and surveillance from authorities. Reuben Sterman relocates from

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<v Speaker 4>the Midwest to ELA's San Fernando Valley, where a sex

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<v Speaker 4>belt is developing. Sterman's booming business buys him a townhouse

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<v Speaker 4>in Van Nuys, a line of credit for clothes at

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<v Speaker 4>Posh Beverly Hills Men's shop, Vijon, Rolls Royce's Mercedes, and

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<v Speaker 4>a yearly seated the Cannes Film Festival. But the US

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<v Speaker 4>government is keeping a close eye on his finances, and

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<v Speaker 4>in nineteen eighty nine, he's sentenced for tax eVision. Sterman

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<v Speaker 4>is ordered to pay two point five million dollars in

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<v Speaker 4>back taxes and spend a decade in jail. He also

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<v Speaker 4>catches a bullshit charge for interstate transportation of obscene materials.

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<v Speaker 4>He strikes a plea bargain, but gets caught trying to

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<v Speaker 4>bribe a juror and is given another twenty years for extortion.

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<v Speaker 4>He's locked up in Boron, California. He pulls off a

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<v Speaker 4>jail break and briefly escapes, but the Walt Disney of

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<v Speaker 4>porn is apprehended again in Anaheim, California, home of Disneyland.

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<v Speaker 4>Cleveland's porn king, Reuben Sturman, serves out the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>his sentence in Kentucky and dies in jail at the

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<v Speaker 4>age of seventy three. Despite their dad's unusual job selling

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<v Speaker 4>dirty movies, the Hirshes are a model middle class Jewish

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<v Speaker 4>mid century Midwestern family. The Hirsh kids, son Stephen, daughter Marcy,

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<v Speaker 4>and youngest son Bradley, shovels snow in the winter. In

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<v Speaker 4>the summers, they play baseball and mow neighborhood lawns for

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<v Speaker 4>pocket money, but Stephen Hirsch feels alienated from the other

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<v Speaker 4>kids in Lyndhurst, Ohio. Some of them bully him at

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<v Speaker 4>school for being Jewish. He channels his pent up aggression

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<v Speaker 4>into a socially acceptable place sports, joining the school wrestling team.

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<v Speaker 2>It helped toughen me up a bit, and it helped

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<v Speaker 2>give me the drive to succeed because I had to

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<v Speaker 2>prove that I was okay.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd always wanted to do a movie that was pure

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<v Speaker 6>fucking nothing else the way eat had been just eating,

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<v Speaker 6>and sleep had been just sleeping. So in October sixty eight,

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<v Speaker 6>I shot a movie of Viva having sex with Lewis Walden.

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<v Speaker 6>I just called it Fuck, Andy Warhol Artist.

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<v Speaker 4>After the Hayes Code of Film Censorship ends in nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>sixty eight, stag films are succeeded by full length movies

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<v Speaker 4>that can show sex and screen in public. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>sixty nine, the first film to ever legally show real

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<v Speaker 4>footage of explicit sex acts hits the big screen. It's

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<v Speaker 4>an Andy Warhol art film called Blue Movie, originally titled Fuck,

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<v Speaker 4>starring Warhole superstar Viva and actor Lewis Walden as a

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<v Speaker 4>couple talking about the Vietnam War and present Nixon and

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<v Speaker 4>engaging an unsimulated intercourse shot in long improvised takes. Blue

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<v Speaker 4>Movie is ninety five minutes of talking and ten minutes

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<v Speaker 4>of sex. Blue Movie is focused on sexual realism, not

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<v Speaker 4>sexual fantasy.

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<v Speaker 6>Scripts bore me. It's much more exciting not to know

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<v Speaker 6>what's going to happen. I don't think the plot is important.

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<v Speaker 6>If you see a movie of two people talking, you

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<v Speaker 6>can watch it over and over again without being bored.

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<v Speaker 6>You get involved, you miss things, you come back to it.

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<v Speaker 6>But you can't see the same movie over and over

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<v Speaker 6>again if it has a plot, because you already know

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<v Speaker 6>the ending. Everyone is rich, everyone is interesting. Years ago,

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<v Speaker 6>people used to sit looking out of their windows at

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<v Speaker 6>the street or on a park bench. They would stay

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<v Speaker 6>for hours without being bored, although nothing much was going on.

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<v Speaker 6>This is my favorite theme in movie making, just watching

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<v Speaker 6>something happening for two hours or so.

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<v Speaker 7>The Warhole films for about sexual disappointment and frustration. The

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<v Speaker 7>way Andy saw the world, the way the world is,

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<v Speaker 7>and the way nine tenths of the population sees it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>pretends they don't, don't Viva actress.

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<v Speaker 4>Blue Movie follows Warholes shorts Blowjob Number one and Blowjob

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<v Speaker 4>Number two, which both focus and tight close up on

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<v Speaker 4>a man's face as he allegedly receives a blowjob below frame.

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<v Speaker 4>Warhole purposely courts controversy, which brings him free publicity. The

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<v Speaker 4>Warhole ethos of art, a self consciously consumerist product, a

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<v Speaker 4>personal brand, was cultivated working as an illustrator in the

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<v Speaker 4>advertising industry. On opening day, Blue Movie grows as a

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<v Speaker 4>theatrical house record of three thy fifty dollars, recouping its

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<v Speaker 4>shooting budget of three thousand dollars. It makes sixteen thy

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred dollars within the week, and Warhol takes home

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<v Speaker 4>ninety percent of the box office gross. Andy Warhol gets

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<v Speaker 4>his wish for controversy and free promotion when the NYPD

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<v Speaker 4>raid the Garrick Cinema on Bleaker Street where Blue Movie

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<v Speaker 4>is playing first run. Sees the film reels for obscenity

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<v Speaker 4>and arrest the theatre's staff for distributing obscene materials. Warhol

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<v Speaker 4>cashes in on the scandal by publishing a book of

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<v Speaker 4>explicit dialogue. In film stills from Blue Movie. Conservatives are

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<v Speaker 4>afraid of what frank depictions of sex will do to viewers' minds,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's too late for the Prudes Blue movie Lights

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<v Speaker 4>The Fuse, and shortly after its success, pornographic movies like

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<v Speaker 4>Behind the Green Door and The Devil and Miss Jones

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<v Speaker 4>become big box office hits. In nineteen seventy five, the

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<v Speaker 4>Hirsch family leaves Ohio, heading out west to the booming

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<v Speaker 4>geographic center of the pornographic film industry, La San Fernando Valley.

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<v Speaker 4>HR is chasing the adult film gold rush and also

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<v Speaker 4>outrunning some obscenity charges he caught in Ohio. The Hirsch

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<v Speaker 4>family settles into a two story house in Woodland Hills,

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<v Speaker 4>a West Valley suburb close to where all the porn

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<v Speaker 4>studios and warehouses are clustered. Fred Hirsch's sales model pivots

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<v Speaker 4>from super eight stag films to video home system VHS

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<v Speaker 4>and Beta tapes as the eighties approached. After being acquitted

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<v Speaker 4>of the Ohio obscenity charges in nineteen seventy eight, he

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<v Speaker 4>starts his own company called Adult Video Corporation. Woodland Hills

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<v Speaker 4>superficially resembles the Ohio suburbs. Aside from its key lack

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<v Speaker 4>of snow, the valley is often set dressed with deciduous

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<v Speaker 4>trees to play the Midwest on screen. There are a

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<v Speaker 4>couple aspects of moving to the Valley that considerably improve

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<v Speaker 4>the now teenage Stephen Hirsch's life. He's no longer the

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<v Speaker 4>only Jewish kid in town. The valley has become a

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<v Speaker 4>place where upwardly mobile, middle class Jewish families settle, not

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<v Speaker 4>in the Tudor Revival style mansions of show business Jews

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<v Speaker 4>in Hancock Park in bel Air, or the orthodox enclaves

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<v Speaker 4>off Fairfax Avenue, but into post war single family homes

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<v Speaker 4>with green grass front lawns and white picket fences. They

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<v Speaker 4>are Jewish families, like the Hirsh's attempt to seamlessly assimilate

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<v Speaker 4>into suburban whiteness in the valley.

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<v Speaker 8>Not only does.

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<v Speaker 4>Stephen Hirsch no longer get bullied for being Jewish at

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<v Speaker 4>his new school, El Camino Real High, he reinvents himself

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<v Speaker 4>as an all American jock like the ones who bullied

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<v Speaker 4>him in Ohio. The Hirsh siblings are also no longer

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<v Speaker 4>the only kids they know whose parents work in the

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<v Speaker 4>porn industry. Fred Hirsch has professional colleagues in the valley,

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<v Speaker 4>and his colleagues have families too. They're all part of

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<v Speaker 4>a thriving local business scene that just happens to involve

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<v Speaker 4>people performing sex x on camera. The Hirsh's are no

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<v Speaker 4>longer local pariahs in the valley. They get to be

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<v Speaker 4>just like everyone else. Steve becomes co captain of the

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<v Speaker 4>school wrestling team, making his father proud. The suburban San

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<v Speaker 4>Fernando Valley is still very square on the surface, but

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<v Speaker 4>in the seventies, the porn industry surreptitiously grows and flowers.

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<v Speaker 4>There By the mid seventies, the porn industry is estimated

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<v Speaker 4>to be turning a yearly profit of ten million dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>By nineteen eighty, the yearly profits for pornography have shot

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<v Speaker 4>up to one hundred million bucks. Stephen Hirsh graduates high

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<v Speaker 4>school and immediately starts working for his dad Fred at

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<v Speaker 4>the Adult Video Corporation office in Northridge. The Adult Video

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<v Speaker 4>Corporation shop, known as AVC, is a VHS duplication lab

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<v Speaker 4>full of worrying video cassette recorders, cranking out tapes from

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<v Speaker 4>master copies of old adult film reels. At first, they

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<v Speaker 4>try to keep family in business separate, but they work

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<v Speaker 4>in such close quarters it proves impossible. Marcy Hirsch sees

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<v Speaker 4>her first glimpse of porn on a monitor, and her

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<v Speaker 4>dad tells her to stay out of the lab when

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<v Speaker 4>he's working. But it's a hard rule to keep, so

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<v Speaker 4>they all just adjust to it.

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<v Speaker 5>After that, we would both be in there watching it.

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<v Speaker 5>After a while, you almost forget what you're watching because

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<v Speaker 5>you see it so often.

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<v Speaker 4>This work arrangement might weird other people out for basic

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<v Speaker 4>oedical reasons, but it doesn't really bother the Hirsh's in

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<v Speaker 4>the valley. Other kids dads work in industries like aerospace.

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<v Speaker 4>At least their pornographer father never helped make a bomb.

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<v Speaker 4>Fred Hirsch and his kids are making an honest living

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<v Speaker 4>in adult films, and the profits are worth tuning out

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<v Speaker 4>seeing a little porn with your dad. By nineteen eighty five,

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<v Speaker 4>ABC is making four point two million dollars a year,

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<v Speaker 4>with most of it going right back into the operation.

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<v Speaker 4>The Hirsh family nets a tidy profit of around half

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<v Speaker 4>a million dollars. Steve Hirsch attends cal State Northridge by day,

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<v Speaker 4>taking business and journalism classes by night, and on weekends

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<v Speaker 4>he packs porn videotapes for shipping in the ABC warehouse

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<v Speaker 4>and apprentices with his father, learning the back end of

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<v Speaker 4>the adult film business inside and out.

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<v Speaker 9>Bred Hirsch is an affable, nice guy. Steve Hirsch is

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<v Speaker 9>a cunning, ruthless businessman. Budley director.

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<v Speaker 4>Stephen Hirsch is wildly ambitious in his own right. He's

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<v Speaker 4>seen firsthand how much money there is to be made

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<v Speaker 4>in adult films and wants his own slice of the pie.

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<v Speaker 4>He's already done the hardest part getting his foot in

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<v Speaker 4>the door, so he decides to leave the comfort of

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<v Speaker 4>the family business and take a sales job at a

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<v Speaker 4>different adult film company, cal Vista International, located in Van Night.

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<v Speaker 4>Cal Vista International is an adult film production and distribution

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<v Speaker 4>company behind movies like nineteen seventy one's Grand Prix tagline

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<v Speaker 4>Fast Cars, Hot Sluts. They have an amazing animated title

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<v Speaker 4>sequence where a sexy blonde cartoon woman in a sheer

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<v Speaker 4>nightgown points a camera towards the viewer under a night

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<v Speaker 4>sky with glimmering stars as the cal Vista International logo appears.

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<v Speaker 4>Cal Vista had a huge hit in nineteen seventy three

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<v Speaker 4>with French Schoolgirls, a movie where nobody involved is French

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<v Speaker 4>or a schoolgirl. French Schoolgirls stars Golden age seventies porn

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<v Speaker 4>stars like Harry Reims, Tina Russell, and one of the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest and most legendary porn performers of all time, John C. Holmes.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't take drugs. Drugs take me, John Seaholmes.

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<v Speaker 4>Because porn is so disrespected as an art form, it's

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<v Speaker 4>much easier to break into than Hollywood, which is a

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<v Speaker 4>fortress of knowing the right people or having a famous

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<v Speaker 4>last name. So the first wave of porn directors who

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<v Speaker 4>get to be credited are a mix of performers and

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<v Speaker 4>film school Mavericks.

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<v Speaker 11>I was a journalism major at the University of Miami

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<v Speaker 11>when I went to a theater showing foreign films and

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<v Speaker 11>Coral Gables and saw Vittorio de Sica's Bicycle Thieves, and

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<v Speaker 11>from that time on I was hooked. I had to

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<v Speaker 11>become a filmmaker. I moved to California and took theater

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<v Speaker 11>arts courses at Santa Monica City College before enrolling at

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<v Speaker 11>EUCLA to study motion picture production. Bob Chin director.

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<v Speaker 4>Born in Honolulu to Chinese parents and raised in La

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<v Speaker 4>Bob Chin, a Taurus, pursues his dream of becoming a

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<v Speaker 4>filmmaker at UCLA Film He's classmates with Jim Morrison, but

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<v Speaker 4>because he is Asian American, Bob Chin finds it difficult

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<v Speaker 4>to break into mainstream film, so he starts directing porn.

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<v Speaker 4>He directs both as Bob Chin and using pseudonyms like

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<v Speaker 4>Sparky Shane and Wizard Glick. In the nineteen seventies, Bob

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<v Speaker 4>Chin becomes one of porn's first auteur filmmakers and pioneers

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<v Speaker 4>the concept of porn franchises with recurring characters when he

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<v Speaker 4>links up with John C.

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<v Speaker 12>Holmes.

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<v Speaker 4>John Curtis Holmes, a LEO, is a Bible school dropout

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<v Speaker 4>from Asheville, Ohio, who flees his religious fanatic mother and

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<v Speaker 4>a string of abusive stepfathers for the Army. Discharged after

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<v Speaker 4>three years in West Germany, John Holmes moves to la

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<v Speaker 4>where he works as a salesman, factory employee and as

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<v Speaker 4>a taxian ambulance driver. He turns twenty one, marries a

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<v Speaker 4>nurse and gets a job operating a forklift at a

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<v Speaker 4>meat packing plant in the South Bay. The walk in

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<v Speaker 4>freezer at the meatpacking plant gives him severe health issues

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<v Speaker 4>that cause one of his lungs to collapse. Allegedly, John

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<v Speaker 4>Holmes is discovered at a poker club in Guardina. He's

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<v Speaker 4>in the men's bathroom at the urinals when an adult

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<v Speaker 4>photo agent spots his huge, soft, uncircumcised penis somewhere between

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<v Speaker 4>ten and sixteen inches long and tells him he should

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<v Speaker 4>monetize it. Holmes starts nude modeling and filming illegal stag

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<v Speaker 4>films and loops for money. He goes by John C.

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<v Speaker 4>Holmes joking the sea stands for cash because that's all

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<v Speaker 4>he accepts after one check bounces. John C. Holmes meets

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<v Speaker 4>Bob Chin in nineteen seventy one when Holmes walks into

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<v Speaker 4>Chin's office and asks for a film crew job as

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<v Speaker 4>a gaffer. Holmes is a skinny, six foot two guy

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<v Speaker 4>with big, curly blonde hair and a mustache. He tells

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<v Speaker 4>Bob Chin he's an actor too. He looks more like

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<v Speaker 4>a hippie weirdo than a leading man type, but Bob

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<v Speaker 4>Chin becomes convinced of his star power.

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<v Speaker 11>He pulled down his pants and showed me his credentials.

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<v Speaker 4>Bobchin creates a franchise around his muse where John Holmes

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<v Speaker 4>plays a private dick named Johnny Wadd. One Johnny wadd Movie,

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen seventy seven's The Jade Pussycat is replicated faithfully in

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<v Speaker 4>Boogie Knights. The Burt Reynolds character Jack Horner is a

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<v Speaker 4>composite of seventies porn impresarios, including Bobchin. The Jade Pussycat

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<v Speaker 4>is set in San Francisco's Chinatown and co stars Linda Wong,

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<v Speaker 4>a Japanese American actress from San Francisco and former Homecoming

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<v Speaker 4>queen who is one of the first Asian American porn stars.

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<v Speaker 4>Bob Chin's Johnny wadd series pioneers the concept of a

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<v Speaker 4>porn franchise with sequels and recurring characters in tandem with

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<v Speaker 4>seventies mainstream franchises. After the success of Jaws and Star Wars,

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<v Speaker 4>Bob Chin's hit movies make John C. Holmes and his

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<v Speaker 4>gigantic Dick Horn's first true megastar.

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<v Speaker 10>I've never found a girl who could not take it.

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<v Speaker 10>It's really in the way you do it. Though I've

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<v Speaker 10>had some women say they've had guys half my size,

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<v Speaker 10>we couldn't get it in the problem is that most

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<v Speaker 10>guys don't know how to read a lady and what

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<v Speaker 10>she really wants. With some you have to be gentle

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<v Speaker 10>and romantic and with others. You gotta get down and dirty.

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<v Speaker 10>The secret is you have to get in touch with

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<v Speaker 10>what they wait.

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<v Speaker 4>Holmes makes seventy five bucks for the first Johnny Watt movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Success gets his rate up to three thousand dollars a day,

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<v Speaker 4>and he makes thousands of movies. He would be rich,

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<v Speaker 4>but he spends it all on drugs and is always broke.

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<v Speaker 4>He starts doing crimes on the side, like petty theft,

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<v Speaker 4>credit card fraud, and pimping. His coke and freebasing habits

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<v Speaker 4>start affecting his adult film work, making him flaky, unfocused,

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<v Speaker 4>and unable to stay hard on camera. He gets blacklisted

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<v Speaker 4>and dropped by everyone in town, including Bob Chin. No

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<v Speaker 4>star is bigger than the industry that made them a star.

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<v Speaker 4>Not even John C.

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<v Speaker 10>Holmes friends will get you killed.

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<v Speaker 4>John Holmes becomes doubly notorious for his involvement with the

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<v Speaker 4>Wonderland or Four on the Floor quadruple murder case in

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty one. The Wonderland Gang were a group of

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<v Speaker 4>heroin addicted coke dealers who dealt from a house off

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<v Speaker 4>Laurel Canyon on Wonderland Avenue. They robbed a club owner

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<v Speaker 4>drug dealer named Eddie Nash, and Nash blamed John Holmes,

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<v Speaker 4>who'd been at his house earlier that day and had

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<v Speaker 4>left a glass sliding door cracked open. Either Eddie Nash

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<v Speaker 4>or another enemy. He sent a team to torture and

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<v Speaker 4>murder the Wonderland Gang. Neighbors didn't call the cops because

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<v Speaker 4>they were always having crazy parties at the Wonderland House.

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<v Speaker 4>The LAPD finds John C. Holmes's hand prints and a

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<v Speaker 4>million dollars worth of cocaine at the Wonderland House and

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<v Speaker 4>decide to charge him with all four murders. Lead Detective

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Lang is later a lead detective in Oj Simpson's

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<v Speaker 4>murder case. John Holmes goes on the LAMB for six months,

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<v Speaker 4>then stands trial in nineteen eighty two. After a three

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<v Speaker 4>week trial, John Holmes is acquitted. He's tried and acquitted

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<v Speaker 4>a second time, and then Eddie Nash is also tried

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<v Speaker 4>and acquitted. The Eddie Nash trial marks the first time

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<v Speaker 4>in American history that a videotape is introduced as evidence

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<v Speaker 4>in a trial. Videotapes are also changing the landscape of

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<v Speaker 4>porn Companies like the Hirsh Families. AVC are taking over

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<v Speaker 4>the business as film gives way to the home video revolution.

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<v Speaker 4>The top us producers and distributors are known as the

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<v Speaker 4>Big Three, and they're all in the Valley VCA or

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<v Speaker 4>Video Co of America in Chatsworth, Essex Video in Northridge,

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<v Speaker 4>and Caballero Home Video in Canoga Park. Much like ABC,

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<v Speaker 4>Essex Video is also a family dynasty, founded in nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>sixty by Jose Domingo Ristreppo from Bogota, Columbia. Rostreppo changes

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<v Speaker 4>his professional name to Joe Steinmann. Usually it's Jewish people

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<v Speaker 4>who change their names to sound wasp beer, but here

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<v Speaker 4>it's a Colombian guy changing his name to sound more Jewish.

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<v Speaker 4>In order to make it in the porn business. Joe

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<v Speaker 4>Steinmann buys rights to existing adult films and distributes them

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<v Speaker 4>on tape at Essex Video. He has four sons, who,

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<v Speaker 4>like the Hirsh Kids, work for him. The Steinmann sons

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<v Speaker 4>attend high school in Van Nuys by day and pack

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<v Speaker 4>tapes in the shipping warehouse at night. Joe's second eldest son,

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<v Speaker 4>Jeff Steinmann, becomes the main heir to the Essex Video

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<v Speaker 4>brand as it transitions from filmed video in nineteen seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Steinman steps down from Essex Video and turns it

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<v Speaker 4>over to his son, Jeff. It is Jeff Steinmann at

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<v Speaker 4>Essex Video who is first to give performers exclusive studio

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<v Speaker 4>contracts and make them what's called a contract girl. Steinman

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<v Speaker 4>signs Barbara Dare, a five foot two blonde Jewish lesbian

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<v Speaker 4>from Wayne, New Jersey, to make ten films for Essex

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<v Speaker 4>Video in one year to earn one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars. At its peak, Essex Video racks up forty

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<v Speaker 4>million dollars a year and employs a staff of sixty five.

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<v Speaker 4>Cal Vista International is not in the Big three, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's the fourth or fifth biggest studio in the valley.

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<v Speaker 4>When Steve Hurst starts working there, he travels coast to

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<v Speaker 4>coast peddling Calvista tapes to buyers at sex shops and

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<v Speaker 4>video stores. He's mentored at Calvista by two porn elder

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<v Speaker 4>Statesmen and meets another young guy named David James. Hirsch

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<v Speaker 4>and David James start privately discussing launching their own studio.

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<v Speaker 2>He was sort of overseeing the warehouse and the mail

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<v Speaker 2>order division, and I was overseeing the wholesale division.

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<v Speaker 4>Stephen Hirsch sees the future of the business from his

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<v Speaker 4>time selling videotapes on the road. With the move from

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<v Speaker 4>film to video, there's been a change in the way

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<v Speaker 4>adult content is sold and consumed. While video's ascension signals

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<v Speaker 4>the end for porn's old lions, it becomes a backdoor

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<v Speaker 4>for a new generation of pornographers primed to embrace the

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<v Speaker 4>video age. The battle between VHS and Beta Max for

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 4>eighties home video supremacy is decided by porn Sony refuses

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<v Speaker 4>to let it. Beta Max tapes carry adult content, but

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<v Speaker 4>VHS decides to allow adult content, and thus VHS ends

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<v Speaker 4>up burying data. Max video lacks the image fidelity of film,

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<v Speaker 4>but importantly, video is much cheaper than film. It also

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<v Speaker 4>offers a sensual griminess and immediacy. Video is way less

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<v Speaker 4>finicky than film, and did I mention it's cheap. Stephen

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<v Speaker 4>Hersch and David James team up to start their own

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 4>porn studio. They put the new format right there in

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<v Speaker 4>the name Vivid Video. Steve Hirsh wants to be a

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<v Speaker 4>porn tycoon. He models himself after his father, Fred, but

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<v Speaker 4>also hopes to surpass his success. He has a vision

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<v Speaker 4>for Vivid Video using contract girls to market porn stars

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<v Speaker 4>like movie stars. In another innovation, Vivid will be first

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<v Speaker 4>to put a performer's name in a film's title. In

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<v Speaker 4>this way, he will be able to build his performers

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<v Speaker 4>brands up to rise in value, and the marketing blitzes

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<v Speaker 4>orchestrated around stars will benefit performers and their studios.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a better way of skinning the cat. We

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<v Speaker 2>wanted Vivid Video to be unique and separate ourselves from

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the industry. We wanted to focus on

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<v Speaker 2>a girl, not just some innocuous movie title. There were

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<v Speaker 2>two huge stars at the time, Ginger Lynn and Tracy Lord's.

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<v Speaker 2>Fortunately we chose the right one. We focused on Ginger

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<v Speaker 2>and she was the first Vivid girl.

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<v Speaker 4>He is glad they didn't choose Tracy because she was

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<v Speaker 4>working in porn underage, using a fake ID that said

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<v Speaker 4>she was eighteen. This jeopardized the porn business by making

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<v Speaker 4>it seem like she'd been knowingly hired while underage, but

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<v Speaker 4>really everyone just believed her fake ID was real. Had

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<v Speaker 4>Stephen Hirsch chosen Tracy Lords to be the first Vivid girl,

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<v Speaker 4>this whole story would be different. But Luckily for him,

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<v Speaker 4>Stephen Hirsch decided to bet the house on ginger Lynn Allen.

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<v Speaker 4>When Jenna World returns, ginger Lynn Allen becomes Vivid Videos

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<v Speaker 4>first contract girl Oh My an Welcome back to Jenna Worldwood.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually helped Vivid form a lot of their ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>We worked very closely together. It was a very good experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 13>Ginger Lynn was comfortably pretty. She didn't have the kind

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<v Speaker 13>of beauty that chilled you, it warmed you. She came

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<v Speaker 13>along at exactly the right time. William Margold X rated

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<v Speaker 13>critics Organization.

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<v Speaker 4>Ginger Lynn Allen is a tomboy born and raised in Rockford, Illinois.

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<v Speaker 4>Her father, Wayne Allen, was an alcoholic who physically abused

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<v Speaker 4>her mother, Marilyn. Her mother, Marilyn, was born to a

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<v Speaker 4>prostitute and adopted into a family of strict Baptists. Marilyn

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<v Speaker 4>would beat Gingerlyn and scream at her that she was

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<v Speaker 4>evil and ugly like the Mom and Carrie. Ginger Lynn's

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<v Speaker 4>parents divorce, and she's so traumatized from her home life

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<v Speaker 4>that she tries to commit suicide by sleeping pills at

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<v Speaker 4>age twelve. At age thirteen, she moves in with her

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<v Speaker 4>dad's parents, who provide a calm, stable environment. She gets

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<v Speaker 4>into sex, drugs and skipping class, but still graduates from

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<v Speaker 4>Rockford West High at eighteen in nineteen eighty. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>eighty two, at age twenty, Gingerlyn moves to Redlands, California,

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<v Speaker 4>to care for her grandfather. When he dies, ginger Lynn

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<v Speaker 4>and a guy she calls her first nice boyfriend move

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<v Speaker 4>into her grandpa's trailer park home. She gets a job

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<v Speaker 4>at a chain record store called Musicland, but it barely

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<v Speaker 4>pays the bills and rent. Then she sees a print

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<v Speaker 4>ad for World Modeling Agency, the biggest adult modeling agency

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<v Speaker 4>in the LA area. It's run by a dark haired

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<v Speaker 4>Texan fellow with a big walrus mustache who always wears

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<v Speaker 4>cowboy boots, western shirts and jeans. He goes by the

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<v Speaker 4>name of Jim South.

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<v Speaker 14>Anybody can say or have the opinion they want to have,

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<v Speaker 14>just like I believe, if a girl is of age

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<v Speaker 14>and she's not drugged or coerced, she has the right

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<v Speaker 14>to be in a movie. She has the right to rent, buy,

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<v Speaker 14>or view a movie. I think there will always be

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<v Speaker 14>people who think any of this is degrading for women.

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<v Speaker 9>Jim South agent.

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<v Speaker 4>Jim South is born James Marvin Sowder Junior in Dallas, Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>A virgo, he works as a Texas insurance salesman in

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<v Speaker 4>the early sixties. In nineteen sixty eight, he moves to

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<v Speaker 4>la and gets a job at an agency that reps

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<v Speaker 4>fashion models. In nineteen seventy six, James Sowder redubs himself

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<v Speaker 4>Jim South and starts World Modeling Talent Agency, which represents

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<v Speaker 4>nude models in an office on the valleys Van Nuys Boulevard,

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<v Speaker 4>evading LAPD surveillance in the occasional pimping charge. Jim South

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<v Speaker 4>runs print ads scouting for new adult talent for decades.

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<v Speaker 4>World Modeling Agency and another agency called Pretty Girl International

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<v Speaker 4>are the only two agencies who recruit and represent nude performers.

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<v Speaker 4>Signing with one of them is the primary way to

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<v Speaker 4>break into adult films.

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<v Speaker 14>Holy men in the business are just props. The women

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<v Speaker 14>make the line share of the money. The women dictate

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<v Speaker 14>who they'll work with and who they won't work with.

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<v Speaker 14>Believe me.

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<v Speaker 4>Ginger Lynn Allen answers a World Modeling Agency ad seeking

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<v Speaker 4>figure models for one hundred and fifty dollars a shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>He asked me to take my clothes off. I had

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<v Speaker 1>no trouble doing that whatsoever. I was never ashamed or embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 1>I was always comfortable with my body.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, some people say Jim South is a true professional

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<v Speaker 4>with a strict no dating the talent policy. Other people

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<v Speaker 4>say he's a real scumbag who offers models cocaine and

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<v Speaker 4>champagne to try to get them to take their clothes

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<v Speaker 4>off faster. Ginger Lynne signs with Jim South's agency and

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<v Speaker 4>he books her first paid photoshoot. On the spot, she

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<v Speaker 4>dumps her nice boyfriend and moves to La ginger Lynde's

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<v Speaker 4>nude pictures for Hustler and Penthouse get her noticed and

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<v Speaker 4>scouted to do adult films. She makes her first one

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<v Speaker 4>that year, called Surrender in Paradise, shooting in Maui, with

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<v Speaker 4>actor Jerry Butler. Butler, whose real name is Paul Siderman,

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<v Speaker 4>becomes her next boyfriend. Jerry Butler stars in adult films

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<v Speaker 4>like Raw Talent, which has this indelible dialogue from Butler

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<v Speaker 4>and actress Taija Ray, what.

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<v Speaker 15>Do you do?

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<v Speaker 12>I'm an actor.

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<v Speaker 8>Name something you've been in?

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<v Speaker 7>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>I was in a soap opera, Dawn of day.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't watch soaps. Name something else, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>I did some off off Broadway, some one act plays,

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<v Speaker 4>some summer revivals.

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<v Speaker 16>Tell me something I might have seen on TV, something

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<v Speaker 16>really big, something that's.

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<v Speaker 10>Been on TV. Well, I was in the Vietnam War

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<v Speaker 10>and I had a bit part in that one.

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry Butler's father managed the original Coney Island location of

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<v Speaker 4>Nathan's hot Dogs, and his grandfather was Leon Trotsky's half brother.

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry himself once tied for first place in the Nathan's

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<v Speaker 4>hot Dog eating contest in New York. Jerry Butler studies

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<v Speaker 4>the Meisner technique, tries out for the New York Rangers,

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<v Speaker 4>and drives a taxi cab. After failing to bring into

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<v Speaker 4>mainstream acting, he gets into porn and does movies like

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<v Speaker 4>Angel Buns, Fixin's In Heat, Debbie does Dallas three, and

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<v Speaker 4>Doctor Strange. Sex on set in Maui, Jerry Butler proposes

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<v Speaker 4>to Ginger Lynn.

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<v Speaker 1>She accepts, I was making more money in two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>than I did in two years, and I was having

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<v Speaker 1>great sex with someone I loved.

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<v Speaker 4>Ginger Lynn breaks off her engagement to Jerry Butler halfway

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<v Speaker 4>through filming because he insists on method acting, speaking with

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<v Speaker 4>a heavy New York accent, and wearing a gross shirt

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<v Speaker 4>even when he's not filming. It's her first of ten

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<v Speaker 4>broken engagements. Ginger Lynn makes five one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 4>dollars for Surrender in Paradise. With her eighties video girl

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<v Speaker 4>look and strong work ethic, she quickly rises up the

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<v Speaker 4>ranks of adult film. Nineteen seventies golden age porn stars

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<v Speaker 4>resembled the stars of nineteen seventies New Hollywood. The men

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<v Speaker 4>Harry and Ethnic. The women also Harry Bralis and Freaky

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone's sweaty as hell. Guys like John Holmes and Harry

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<v Speaker 4>Reems are the porn equivalents of actors like Robert De

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<v Speaker 4>Niro and Al Pacino.

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<v Speaker 17>Let's face it, we were a hairy bunch back then,

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<v Speaker 17>and there was more of the natural woman. I became

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<v Speaker 17>famous as a porn star not because I was so

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<v Speaker 17>gorgeous or I had the best body, but probably because

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<v Speaker 17>people felt comfortable with me. I was kind of like

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<v Speaker 17>the girl next door that you could feel like you

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<v Speaker 17>could talk to and maybe get lucky with. Veronica Hart, performer.

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<v Speaker 4>The adult film business begins in New York before moving

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<v Speaker 4>to La The first performers to have sex on film

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<v Speaker 4>are a mix of stage actors, times Square strips, and

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<v Speaker 4>downtown artists, which is why monologust and actor Spaulding Gray

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<v Speaker 4>appears in a nineteen seventy six porn oh called The

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<v Speaker 4>Farmer's Daughters. The porn stars of the nineteen eighties resemble

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<v Speaker 4>mainstream nineteen eighties movie stars, clean cut, all American Barbie's

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<v Speaker 4>and Ken's. If they're sweaty, it is only with the

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<v Speaker 4>healthy sheen of exercise, which includes vigorous sex. Risky business

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<v Speaker 4>is a big hit in the eighties, and porn stars

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<v Speaker 4>start to resemble stars like Tom Cruise and Rebecca de Morney.

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<v Speaker 4>The girls are approachable, pretty preppy babes who do filthy

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<v Speaker 4>sex stuff in the movies. So ginger Lynn Allen, who

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<v Speaker 4>has the clean cut, blonde, white babysitter look that's in

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<v Speaker 4>favor in Hollywood, thrives in the valley. Now that she's

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<v Speaker 4>making good money doing porn, ginger Lynn has to make

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<v Speaker 4>as much as she possibly can. She has already shown

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<v Speaker 4>her tits and ass on the film record, which in

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<v Speaker 4>the eighties was considered a social death sentence for having

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<v Speaker 4>a normal life afterwards, But ginger Lynn didn't have a

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<v Speaker 4>normal life in Rockford either. The girl who looked to

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<v Speaker 4>everyone else like a wholesome teenage girl in Illinois was

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<v Speaker 4>secretly suffering at home. In Los Angeles, ginger Lynn has

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<v Speaker 4>personal freedom from her abusive family and something else, vital

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<v Speaker 4>financial independence. Gingerlynn is also well aware that porn, much

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<v Speaker 4>like Hollywood, tends to chew people up and spit them

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<v Speaker 4>back out. In her first year in the biz, she's

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<v Speaker 4>already nearly run the gauntlet of filmed sex acts. She

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't want audiences to tire of her novelty too quickly

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<v Speaker 4>and move on to new performers, and that is how

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<v Speaker 4>ginger Lynn finds herself at Gladstone's on the beach, eating

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<v Speaker 4>crab legs by the ocean with Stephen Hirsch as he

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<v Speaker 4>paints a beautiful picture of her future at his new studio,

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<v Speaker 4>Vivid Video. He makes her an offer an exclusive contract

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<v Speaker 4>where she'll become what he calls the first Vivid Girl,

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<v Speaker 4>with clauses for casting and script approval, royalties for videotape sales,

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<v Speaker 4>and an ad campaign dedicated to marketing her to the masses.

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<v Speaker 4>Ginger Lynn knows that Stephen Hirst has nothing to show

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<v Speaker 4>for his pitch, but big promises. But he wins her over.

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<v Speaker 4>They will launch vivid video together.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the way they talk, the way their eyes are,

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<v Speaker 2>way they carry themselves. If there's something that just really

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<v Speaker 2>stands out about them, then we send them over to

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<v Speaker 2>our photographer. If those look great, we shared a scene

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<v Speaker 2>with them, because obviously the sex has to be great.

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<v Speaker 4>Stephen Hirsch also believes that the home video revolution will

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<v Speaker 4>open up a lucrative new consumer base.

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<v Speaker 13>Women.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyone too shy or ashamed to admit they want to

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<v Speaker 4>see movies of people having sex will now be able

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<v Speaker 4>to consume them in a its setting. If the idea

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<v Speaker 4>of having to sit in a theater surrounded by raincoated

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<v Speaker 4>dudes jacking it is what put you off porn, you're

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<v Speaker 4>suddenly in luck. You can now watch it in the

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<v Speaker 4>ideal eighties viewing setup. Sitting on a black leather couch

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<v Speaker 4>with a glass top coffee table and a neon lit

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<v Speaker 4>tropical fish tank, watching on a big TV with a VCR.

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<v Speaker 1>I look like what might be your best friend's sister.

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<v Speaker 4>Ginger Len Allen will give these new female viewers an

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<v Speaker 4>avatar they can identify with, providing them an entree into

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<v Speaker 4>watching porn. If this nice, normal, suburban girl can do pornography,

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<v Speaker 4>surely there's nothing wrong with watching her enjoying herself. The

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<v Speaker 4>first female porn stars reflected the sexual revolution spurred by

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<v Speaker 4>birth control pills. They were freaky hippie chicks who liked

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<v Speaker 4>to eat health food and fuck. Many were political, actively

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<v Speaker 4>pushing against social constraints, and accepted female roles in society.

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<v Speaker 4>Instead of pursuing homemaking, child rearing, or husband hunting, they

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<v Speaker 4>searched for personal ecstasy. But there was also a known

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<v Speaker 4>dark side, best represented by deep throats Linda Lovelace and

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<v Speaker 4>other women like her, who were pushed by suitcase pimp

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<v Speaker 4>boyfriends into doing stuff on camera against their will. Nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>eighties porn reflected a backlash against the sixties and seventies,

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<v Speaker 4>an attempted reset to an imaginary wholesome as apple Pie

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<v Speaker 4>America the Reagan years. Ginger Lenn Allen is young and sexy,

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<v Speaker 4>but approachable in an eighties twist, She's also a powerful businesswoman.

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<v Speaker 4>She's the perfect screen commodity for her era and for

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<v Speaker 4>Stephen Hirsch's big plan to prove that porn is not

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<v Speaker 4>a gross thing. For disgusting people. It's a normal, healthy

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<v Speaker 4>outlet for human sexuality.

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<v Speaker 18>Stephen Hirsch grew up when porn was a dirty, underground business.

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<v Speaker 18>If he was going to be in the business, it

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<v Speaker 18>was going to be mainstream. Bill Asher Vivid Video co.

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<v Speaker 4>Chair Stephen Hirsch's promise to make Ginger Lind a big

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<v Speaker 4>star is more than just hot beach air. With thirty

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<v Speaker 4>eight thousand dollars of capital, funded in part by his father, Fred,

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<v Speaker 4>Vivid Video launches itself as the first adult film studio

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<v Speaker 4>of the video age. Vivid sinks money into film production

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<v Speaker 4>and even more money into the box cover, ponying up

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<v Speaker 4>for a pro photographer to do a high fashion shoot

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<v Speaker 4>of Ginger at the beach straddling a ceramic lion in

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<v Speaker 4>a blue and white striped bikini in an industry first.

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<v Speaker 4>Her first movie for Vivid Video is titled Ginger. Before Ginger,

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<v Speaker 4>video covers were always a collage of the sex scenes within,

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<v Speaker 4>and movies were never named after the star Ginger. The

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<v Speaker 4>movie is an instant smack uh hit, establishing Gingerlynn the

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<v Speaker 4>person as the video generation's new biggest porn star and

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<v Speaker 4>Vivid Video as the new studio to watch Ginger sells

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<v Speaker 4>a then record six thousand VHS copies right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 4>A softcore cut of Ginger sells even more copies worldwide.

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<v Speaker 4>The final gross for Ginger is seven hundred thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 4>which is reinvested into follow up projects like Ginger on

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<v Speaker 4>the Rocks, Ginger's Private Party, and I Dream of Ginger.

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<v Speaker 1>The combination of a great box cover and young beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>women became Vivid's trademark.

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<v Speaker 18>The girls don't have to worry about anything. We handle

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<v Speaker 18>their careers and treat them like stars.

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<v Speaker 14>David James Vivid Video.

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<v Speaker 4>When Jenna World returns, Vivid Video takes off into the stratosphere.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my, an welcome back to gena world. Gingerln Allen

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<v Speaker 4>rises rapidly in fame at the same time as another

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 4>horny Midwestern girl with a healthy appetite for fund and sex,

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<v Speaker 4>Michigan's own Madonna, Luise Chicone a Leo. In nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 4>Madonna puts out a music video for Like a Virgin,

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<v Speaker 4>directed by Mary Lambert no relation. The lyrics cause controversy,

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 4>and the video where Madonna rolls around Venice hornily in

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<v Speaker 4>a wedding dress, makes it a cultural Lightning Rod. Madonna's

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<v Speaker 4>stardom causes discourse about what sex in the eighties means

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<v Speaker 4>for America's horny young daughters, who could be tempted to

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<v Speaker 4>leave the stifling suburbs behind to get involved in New

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 4>York's bustling art scene and date John Michelle Bosquiat, Madonna

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 4>and Ginger Lynn and straight a potential future where women

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<v Speaker 4>aren't doomed to be sex objects lacking agency. They can

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<v Speaker 4>be sex subjects expressing their feelings and desires. This is

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<v Speaker 4>the start of what's called third wave feminism, which involves

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<v Speaker 4>using female sexuality to gain power. The kind of power

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 4>that can be gained from sexuality is allegedly temporary and

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<v Speaker 4>easily taken away by the straight cis male audience who

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<v Speaker 4>grant it. Of course, Madonna and Ginger Lynn are also

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:37.840
<v Speaker 4>both skinny, white women, which grants them certain societal privileges. However,

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<v Speaker 4>the new nineteen eighties brand of women who are empowered

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<v Speaker 4>both sexually and financially terrifies a lot of straight men.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just this moment of freedom to know that

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<v Speaker 1>sexually I was going to be able to do anything

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<v Speaker 1>that I wanted, and it was okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Nineteen eighty four is a landmark for Gingerlyn Allen. She

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<v Speaker 4>wins big at the inaugural X Rated Critics Organization Awards

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<v Speaker 4>for her first Vivid video releases, an award show partially

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<v Speaker 4>funded by Stephen Hurst's father Fred. The first ever Adult

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<v Speaker 4>Video News Awards or AVNS, are also held in nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>eighty four. Award shows promote the adult industry, build out

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<v Speaker 4>Porn Valley's reputation as the other Hollywood, and provide a

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<v Speaker 4>way for people in the porn biz to internally acknowledge

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<v Speaker 4>the artistic value of their work.

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<v Speaker 1>The industry definitely felt like a family.

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<v Speaker 12>Back then.

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<v Speaker 1>There were fifty people in the entire industry, and that

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<v Speaker 1>included the cast and the crew. It was a wonderful

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:54.240
<v Speaker 1>relationship that developed between the cast members, the crew members, everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>In a black dress with yellow polka dots that she

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<v Speaker 4>got from a Sears department store at the mall. Gingerlyn

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<v Speaker 4>Allen collect her X Rated Critic Organization Awards trophies for

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<v Speaker 4>Starlet of the Year, Video Vixen, and Best Female Performer

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<v Speaker 4>Vivid Videos. Contract Girl Gambit has paid off.

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<v Speaker 1>I did what a lot of women do in the

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<v Speaker 1>adult industry. You live right here, Right Now Today.

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<v Speaker 4>By nineteen eighty five, ginger Lynn Allen is the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>porn star and Vivid Video is the hottest porn studio.

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<v Speaker 4>In the span of twenty seven months, She's made sixty

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<v Speaker 4>nine adult films, such as Poonies, a porn parody of Goonies.

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:44.919
<v Speaker 4>She stars in New Wave Hookers, about cool girls who

0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:48.560
<v Speaker 4>get horny when new wave music is played. New Wave

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:53.600
<v Speaker 4>Hookers pioneers what becomes known as alternative or alt porn.

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<v Speaker 4>As the first Vivid Video contract girl, ginger Lynn is

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<v Speaker 4>the cover star of sixteen titles, top sellers like Club

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<v Speaker 4>Ginger and Ginger Sex Asylum. By nineteen eighty six, Gingerlyn

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<v Speaker 4>is making nearly one hundred and thirty thousand dollars a

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 4>year off her films and promotional work. She knows that

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:17.239
<v Speaker 4>her current success comes with no guarantees of financial longevity,

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 4>but she wants to enjoy it while it lasts. The

0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:24.440
<v Speaker 4>girl whose first award show dress came from Sears can

0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:27.720
<v Speaker 4>now afford to drop cash on designer clothes at Beverly

0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 4>Hills boutiques and buy herself a brand new Porsche. She

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<v Speaker 4>splashes out on a luxurious European vacation. She also starts

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<v Speaker 4>doing a lot of cocaine, as does her boss, Stephen Hirsch.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't cocain the hotel rooms. We didn't cocin the limos.

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<v Speaker 2>My life is out of control. Some of it was alcohol,

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<v Speaker 2>some of it was drugs.

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<v Speaker 5>Now was that.

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<v Speaker 4>Having ascended in the ranks of poor into the pinnacles

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<v Speaker 4>so quickly, Gingerlynn has a new dream making it in

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<v Speaker 4>mainstream movies. Hollywood is sometimes the final gauntlet for porn stars.

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<v Speaker 4>The curtain dividing porn from Hollywood is much thinner than

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 4>people think. Some filmed fantasies play in big, fancy movie

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<v Speaker 4>theaters and multiplexes, while others play on smaller screens at home.

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<v Speaker 4>There's something erotic about filmmaking, whatever the genre, because it's

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<v Speaker 4>voyeuristic in porn. The church like eroticism of the film

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<v Speaker 4>going experience, the darkened theater and communal hush while you

0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:40.880
<v Speaker 4>hope to be astonished is made literal with images designed

0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:44.680
<v Speaker 4>to sexually arouse you. Once it was a secretive theater,

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<v Speaker 4>now it's a private browsing tab. Even if Hollywood snubs

0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:54.319
<v Speaker 4>the supposedly less classy porn industry in public, there is

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:57.320
<v Speaker 4>plenty of private socializing between folks from the valley and

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<v Speaker 4>the other side of the hill. There's a quickly established

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<v Speaker 4>path from porn to mainstream film, primarily into low budget

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 4>B movies in genres like horror and sci fi as

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 4>sex worker characters. Mainstream folks, particularly auter director types, but

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<v Speaker 4>also everyone in comedy, privately love the adult film business.

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<v Speaker 4>The idea of casting a porn star in a mainstream

0:51:23.320 --> 0:51:27.040
<v Speaker 4>project to see if they can really act interests everyone,

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<v Speaker 4>so in nineteen eighty six, ginger Lin Allen leaves adult

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<v Speaker 4>films to try and parley her underground fame into a

0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:39.200
<v Speaker 4>Hollywood acting career. She gets cast in her first mainstream project,

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<v Speaker 4>a B movie titled Doctor Alien, where she plays a

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<v Speaker 4>rock and roll chick. She's then in another B movie

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<v Speaker 4>called Cleo Leo with another porn star turned mainstream actress

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<v Speaker 4>named Veronica Hart. Veronica Hart is a redheaded adult film

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<v Speaker 4>star who had a difficult child custody trial because of

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<v Speaker 4>her job and inspired the Amber Waves character in Boogie Knights.

0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:07.400
<v Speaker 4>Hart plays the judge in Amber Wave's hearing. Compared to

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<v Speaker 4>the movie star treatment, movie star paycheck, and lead build

0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:14.640
<v Speaker 4>roles that ginger Lynn got in porn. Mainstream films are

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<v Speaker 4>a big financial step down. Now she also has to

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<v Speaker 4>audition for parts and hardly ever books. Her mainstream efforts

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<v Speaker 4>range from schlock like Vice Academy, a police Academy ripoff,

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<v Speaker 4>to Ken Russell's sex work art house movie Whore. Even

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<v Speaker 4>with the rise of the vivid video girl, porn is

0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 4>still mostly backroom stuff. To obtain porn to watch at home,

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 4>you still have to buy it at an adult bookstore,

0:52:42.600 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 4>rent it from the other new business spawned by the

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:49.360
<v Speaker 4>VHS revolution video stores, where the X rated stuff is

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<v Speaker 4>kept in a curtained off adults only section. Ginger Lynn

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<v Speaker 4>Allen ends up in a very unique situation. She is

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<v Speaker 4>one of the most famous women on Earth, her films

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<v Speaker 4>among the most watched, but not everyone wants to publicly

0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:09.759
<v Speaker 4>admit that they know who she is or why. In

0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:12.919
<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety, she plays a hooker named Dove in Young

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<v Speaker 4>Guns two and meets star Emilio Estevez's brother Charlie Sheen,

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:20.439
<v Speaker 4>who opted out of being In the sequel, Ginger Lynn

0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:24.040
<v Speaker 4>gets into a romantic relationship with Charlie Sheen, and for

0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:26.400
<v Speaker 4>even more on that, please listen to my other podcast,

0:53:26.440 --> 0:53:28.040
<v Speaker 4>Heidi World the Heidi Fly story.

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie is the only man I ever really loved. People

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<v Speaker 1>thought who I was was detrimental to his career.

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<v Speaker 19>Ginger is, in my opinion, one of the finest people

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<v Speaker 19>I've ever known. She has a powerful sense of integrity,

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<v Speaker 19>a strong internally defined morality, and is at times generous

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<v Speaker 19>to a fault. Charlie Sheen actor.

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<v Speaker 4>Charlie Sheen and Amelio Savez come from an acting dynasty

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<v Speaker 4>through their father, Martin Sheen. They grew up in Malibu

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<v Speaker 4>with other second generation showbiz kids whose parents left the

0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 4>Method acting studios of New York to work in la

0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:24.400
<v Speaker 4>in the burgeoning television industry. The Sheen parents are Hollywood leftists,

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:27.560
<v Speaker 4>and their kids have friends like Sean Penn, whose father

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:30.799
<v Speaker 4>Leo Penn, was blacklisted for refusing to name names of

0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 4>purported Communists to the House on American Activities Committee. Charlie

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 4>Sheen encourages Ginger linn Allen's acting ambitions. He makes her

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:44.480
<v Speaker 4>feel like she can and will be part of mainstream Hollywood.

0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:48.400
<v Speaker 4>Charlie Sheen became a major movie star with the box

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:52.240
<v Speaker 4>office hat trick of Wall Street Young Guns in Major League,

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<v Speaker 4>but by the early nineties he's had some big flops

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<v Speaker 4>and he's plagued by addiction issues. Charlie Sheen and Ginger

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<v Speaker 4>Lynn are allegedly doing a lot of drugs together.

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<v Speaker 1>It was almost like he was the male version of

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<v Speaker 1>me and I was the female version of him.

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:15.640
<v Speaker 4>Ginger lenn Allen dates Charlie Sheen through his first major

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<v Speaker 4>stint at rehab and stands by her man during his

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 4>involvement with the Heidiflies trial. Then he dumps her. She

0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:26.959
<v Speaker 4>is heartbroken. She allegedly shakes it off with a six

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<v Speaker 4>month long fling with George Clooney after guest starring in

0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 4>an episode of soap opera Sunset Beat, until she finds

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<v Speaker 4>out Clooney is still married to Talia Balsam.

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<v Speaker 1>On a scale of one to ten, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>give George an eleven for performance, and as far as equipment,

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<v Speaker 1>I give him a twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>Ginger finds new personal fulfillment in mainstream acting. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>ninety three, she hits a high in her Hollywood career

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<v Speaker 4>playing a topless dancer named Monique on one of the

0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 4>most popular shows on TV, NYPD Blue. Her episode Tempest

0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:09.080
<v Speaker 4>in a Cea Cup wins an Emmy Award for Best

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<v Speaker 4>Drama Direction against stiff competition from three other episodes of

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<v Speaker 4>NYPD Blue and the pilot of Lois and Clark The

0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:21.399
<v Speaker 4>New Adventures of Superman. By the nineteen nineties, Ginger Lynn

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<v Speaker 4>Allen is enough of a household name that she is

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<v Speaker 4>allegedly called in to audition for Martin Scorsese's Casino. Naturally,

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<v Speaker 4>she auditions for the role of Ginger, which ends up

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<v Speaker 4>going to Sharon Stone. According to some sources, Ginger was

0:56:37.880 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 4>Scorsese's top pick and Sharon Stone was the studios I

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<v Speaker 4>know that it's impossible to imagine anyone other than Sharon

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<v Speaker 4>Stone in the role of Ginger. I dare you to

0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 4>look up the real Ginger McKenna and see how much

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 4>she looks like Sharon Stone. Ginger Lynn Allen has a

0:56:53.640 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 4>vulnerable softness to her that would have changed the character

0:56:56.760 --> 0:57:01.600
<v Speaker 4>of Ginger into something very different. Sharon Stone's portrayal of

0:57:01.640 --> 0:57:05.000
<v Speaker 4>Ginger McKenna is so remarkable because it is so hard

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 4>edged and kinetic, like flipping a shiny coin. That Martin

0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:14.160
<v Speaker 4>Scorsese allegedly brought Ginger Lynn Allen into audition for Casino

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<v Speaker 4>means he probably saw her movies and thought she had

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:20.720
<v Speaker 4>a kind of genuine star quality, which means Martin Scorsese

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<v Speaker 4>agrees with me that pornography is real cinema. End of podcasts,

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<v Speaker 4>Just kidding Transition.

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<v Speaker 8>Vivid changed forever the way adult material is marketed there.

0:57:36.960 --> 0:57:42.680
<v Speaker 8>The trendset is they tend to copy mainstream entertainment, mainstream

0:57:42.720 --> 0:57:48.760
<v Speaker 8>business principles, mainstream graphic arts and advertising principles. Then a

0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:53.600
<v Speaker 8>lot of people in the adult business copy them. Christian Man,

0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:56.000
<v Speaker 8>general manager Evil Angel.

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<v Speaker 4>After Gingerlyn Allen leave Vivid in nineteen eighty six to

0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:05.240
<v Speaker 4>pursue her mainstream acting dreams, Stephen Hirsch moves on to

0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:10.520
<v Speaker 4>manufacturing his next Vivid video starlet. While ginger Lynn Allen

0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:13.840
<v Speaker 4>came into Vivid with her own established style and some

0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:17.760
<v Speaker 4>film credits already under her belt, Hirsch uses his new

0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:21.120
<v Speaker 4>power to do a creepy thing that guys with power

0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:25.120
<v Speaker 4>in the film industry love to do. He wants to

0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:29.560
<v Speaker 4>mold a new actress into his own personal sexual ideal.

0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:34.520
<v Speaker 4>The classic example is Alfred Hitchcock and Grace Kelly, followed

0:58:34.520 --> 0:58:39.440
<v Speaker 4>by a succession of icy blonde actresses. Hirsh's first Vivid

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:45.400
<v Speaker 4>girl creation after Ginger Lynn is Jamie Summers. Stephen Hirsch

0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:47.920
<v Speaker 4>sets his sights on an eighteen year old brunette from

0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:51.680
<v Speaker 4>La named Denise Stafford, who goes platinum blonde and takes

0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:55.200
<v Speaker 4>the stage name Jamie Summers after TV's The Bionic Woman

0:58:55.600 --> 0:59:00.280
<v Speaker 4>to become a Vivid Girl. Jamie Summers is another each

0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:04.480
<v Speaker 4>blonde bombshell designed to fill the spot evacuated by Ginger Lind.

0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:08.720
<v Speaker 4>With her teased blonde hair and hot pink lips, she

0:59:08.840 --> 0:59:14.960
<v Speaker 4>resembles Darryl Hannah in Splash. Jamie Summers is also conveniently

0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:19.680
<v Speaker 4>dating Stephen Hirsch. He casts her as a spoiled Beverly

0:59:19.800 --> 0:59:23.880
<v Speaker 4>Hills yuppie bitch in her own starring franchise called The Brat.

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<v Speaker 20>I hope you like it. It's about me The Brat.

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<v Speaker 20>I take astrology classes, I do aerobics, I eat sushi,

0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:35.880
<v Speaker 20>and I'm so busy I hardly have time to satisfy

0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:40.480
<v Speaker 20>my horny husband. Jamie Summers. Vivid Girl.

0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:45.800
<v Speaker 4>Jamie Summers and the next few Vivid Girls afterwards all

0:59:45.840 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 4>follow the template set by gingerln Allen. Short and blonde

0:59:50.320 --> 0:59:54.640
<v Speaker 4>with a suburban girl next door look. He hires actresses

0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:58.320
<v Speaker 4>like Nikki charm A four foot eleven California beach Blonde

0:59:58.560 --> 1:00:02.520
<v Speaker 4>and Barbara Dare aforementioned five foot two blonde Jewish lesbian

1:00:02.560 --> 1:00:06.760
<v Speaker 4>from New Jersey. Vivid video puts out Jamie Loves Jeff,

1:00:07.200 --> 1:00:11.520
<v Speaker 4>directed by Paul Thomas. Paul Thomas is a nineteen seventies

1:00:11.600 --> 1:00:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Golden age porn performer who moves into directing in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 4>A six foot two aires of Greek and Russian Jewish descent.

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<v Speaker 4>Born Philip Charles Tubis in Winnetka, Illinois, he attended the

1:00:24.840 --> 1:00:28.680
<v Speaker 4>University of Wisconsin on a basketball scholarship and majored in

1:00:28.720 --> 1:00:34.200
<v Speaker 4>political science. Like a lot of original porn guys, Paul

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<v Speaker 4>Thomas was aiming for mainstream success at first, and he

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<v Speaker 4>even tasted a little bit. Paul Thomas was a New

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<v Speaker 4>York stage actor who was in the New York productions

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<v Speaker 4>of Hair and Jesus Christ Superstar. He even played the

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<v Speaker 4>apostle Peter in the nineteen seventy three film version of

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<v Speaker 4>Jesus Christ Superstar. He moved to California and signed with

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<v Speaker 4>the William Morris Agency. He was auditioning fruitlessly for tea

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<v Speaker 4>shows when he was scouted into porn. Paul Thomas, known

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<v Speaker 4>as Pet in the adult industry, stars in Golden Age

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<v Speaker 4>porn films like One of a Kind about an enchanted

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<v Speaker 4>accordion whose music makes everyone so horny they have to fuck.

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<v Speaker 4>He even makes use of his musical theater skills when

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<v Speaker 4>he composes and performs a song called If Wishes Were

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<v Speaker 4>Horses for a Bob Chin movie called Fantasy World. In

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty two, Paul Thomas is caught smuggling cocaine into

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<v Speaker 4>the US from South America and serves a year in prison.

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<v Speaker 4>After his release from jail, he returns to porn, this

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<v Speaker 4>time behind the camera, directing.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't define myself as anything Jeff Striker, performer.

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<v Speaker 4>In addition to Vivid Girls, there are Vivid Boys. Vivid

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<v Speaker 4>Video puts out gay porn movies like What the Big

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<v Speaker 4>Boys Eat. Gay porn is a parallel lane to the

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<v Speaker 4>straight porn industry that occasionally intersects. Directors routinely crossover between

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<v Speaker 4>gay and straight porn, and wood men sometimes work in both.

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<v Speaker 4>Some male performers do what's known as gay for pay,

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<v Speaker 4>where they take a paycheck to have sex with men

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<v Speaker 4>on screen, but do not identify sexually as gay or

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<v Speaker 4>fluid in their personal lives. In nineteen eighty seven, Paul

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<v Speaker 4>Thomas direct Jamie Loves Jeff for Vivid, where Jamie Summers

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<v Speaker 4>has sex with one of gay pornography's biggest stars, a

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<v Speaker 4>guy named Jeff Striker.

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<v Speaker 12>Someone had labeled me a quote straight actor and gay

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<v Speaker 12>porn but universal, I think is the only word I

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<v Speaker 12>could actually use to describe my sexuality. I think humans

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<v Speaker 12>are humans. I could be sitting next to God knows

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<v Speaker 12>what and get turned on. Now.

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<v Speaker 15>I think Jeff is great. I'm a big fan of

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<v Speaker 15>Jeff Striker. I think he's the carry granted porna and

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<v Speaker 15>in person he looks great, he looks real. He has

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<v Speaker 15>a great car, like a muscle car. I mean he's perfect.

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<v Speaker 15>I think he's the perfect porno star. He does gain

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<v Speaker 15>straight too, He's all purpose. John Waters director.

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<v Speaker 4>Jeff Striker is born Charles Casper Payton in Carme, Illinois,

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<v Speaker 4>in August of nineteen sixty two. A leo, he's raised

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<v Speaker 4>in Springfield, Illinois, and gets sent to military school at

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<v Speaker 4>age thirteen, and when he gets back home, he learns

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<v Speaker 4>his parents are divorcing. He works as a balloon, telegram

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<v Speaker 4>delivery man and a stripper until a friend sends photos

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<v Speaker 4>of him to a gay porn director named John Travis,

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<v Speaker 4>who scouts him into porn. Jeff Striker's gay porn career

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<v Speaker 4>takes off in movies like Power tool On and Striker Force.

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<v Speaker 4>Jamie Loves Jeff becomes one of Vivid Video's biggest selling

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<v Speaker 4>titles yet.

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<v Speaker 21>Jamie and Jeff used to be the hottest couple in

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<v Speaker 21>high school until she dumped him for dorky lawyer Tom,

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<v Speaker 21>and Jeff ended up marrying Megan five years later. At

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<v Speaker 21>the high school reunion, the former lovers fall in love

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<v Speaker 21>all over again, while their respective spouse's embark on a

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<v Speaker 21>little grudge fund of their own. Vodkatonic adult DVD talk.

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<v Speaker 12>I handpick all the actors I work with. Porn stars

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<v Speaker 12>myself included, only have so much life. If you pour

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<v Speaker 12>it out in a year, you get burned out. If

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<v Speaker 12>you could afford to carefully do a movie a year,

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<v Speaker 12>then that's looking for a career. As long as I

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<v Speaker 12>look good in front of the camera. When I start

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<v Speaker 12>looking bad, I'll be the first to get off screen.

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<v Speaker 4>Nudity in films has been protected since nineteen sixty nine,

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<v Speaker 4>when the Stanley Versus Georgia rulings said people were free

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<v Speaker 4>to watch whatever they wanted in the privacy of their

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<v Speaker 4>own homes. This led to everything from new Hollywood films

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<v Speaker 4>to the full legalization of pornography, all protected under the

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<v Speaker 4>First Amendment. Conservatives were pissed, and in response, Congress fund

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<v Speaker 4>did the President's Commission on Obscenity in Pornography. Set up

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<v Speaker 4>by LBJ and carried out by Richard Nixon. The nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>sixty nine President's Commission on Obscenity in Pornography found that

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<v Speaker 4>there is quote no evidence that exposure to explicit sexual

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<v Speaker 4>materials adversely affects character or moral attitudes regarding sex and

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<v Speaker 4>sexual conduct end quote. President Nixon and Congress rejected the findings,

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<v Speaker 4>which did not fit with their anti porn fear mongering

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<v Speaker 4>and the puritanical attitudes towards sex in America. In nineteen seventy,

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<v Speaker 4>a writer and publisher named Earl Kemp, who writes pulp

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<v Speaker 4>fiction paperbacks, sci fi and gay erotica, puts out an

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<v Speaker 4>illustrated version of the President's Commission on Obscenity in Pornography

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<v Speaker 4>and gets charged with his co publisher, William Hamling, with

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<v Speaker 4>conspiracy to distribute obscene material. Kemp serves a federal minimum

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<v Speaker 4>of three years in one day. In the nineteen eighties,

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<v Speaker 4>federal backlash against making and distributing images of sexual intercourse

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<v Speaker 4>returns via President Ronald Reagan. Despite its profitability, pornographers are

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<v Speaker 4>always under threat of getting busted and brought in on

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<v Speaker 4>obscenity or pandering aka pimping charges. Porn is mainly shot

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<v Speaker 4>in private houses in the north end of the valley

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<v Speaker 4>rather than local sound stages because of the constant legal threat.

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<v Speaker 4>Mainstream sound stages aren't interested in renting to porn folks.

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<v Speaker 4>Due to the legal gray area and constant threat of

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<v Speaker 4>getting busted.

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<v Speaker 1>We were like outlaws at the time because it was

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<v Speaker 1>illegal to shoot.

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<v Speaker 4>The porn industry operates in a clandestine legal space throughout

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<v Speaker 4>the seventies and early eighties, even as it becomes big business.

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<v Speaker 4>Pornos are shot run and gun style, both because they're

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<v Speaker 4>low budget and because they needed to shoot quickly without

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<v Speaker 4>attracting at ten tih from neighbors. I had a friend

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<v Speaker 4>whose family lived near a pornhouse in the hills of Encino,

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<v Speaker 4>and you could tell whenever they were shooting there because

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<v Speaker 4>the windows would be blacked out with curtains in nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>eighty six, the Reagan administration puts out the final report

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<v Speaker 4>of the Attorney General's Commission on Pornography from a task

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<v Speaker 4>force called the Me's Commission. It is known as the

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<v Speaker 4>Me's Report. The Mes Report claims a direct connection between

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<v Speaker 4>porn and an abstract American moral decay, with no actual

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<v Speaker 4>evidence to back up its fearmongering claims. The Mes Report

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<v Speaker 4>also suggests legal loopholes that can be used by conservatives

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<v Speaker 4>to sue pornography studios. The idea is to bankrupt pornographic

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<v Speaker 4>film companies through drawn out court battles. In nineteen eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 4>one such case goes to the Supreme Court. The state

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<v Speaker 4>of California tries to charge adult producer and director Harold

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<v Speaker 4>Freeman with pimp hal Freeman is a nineteen seventies porn

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<v Speaker 4>film crew worker who becomes the director of titles like

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<v Speaker 4>Radio k Com Love on the Hershey Highway, one in

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<v Speaker 4>two and My Favorite nineteen eighty three is California Valley Girls,

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<v Speaker 4>about two lesbians who recruit valley girls into a prostitution ring.

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<v Speaker 4>In the late eighties, Hal Freeman is producing his hit

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<v Speaker 4>Caught from Behind series when the State of California decides

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<v Speaker 4>to make him a sacrificial lamb to try charging pornographers

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<v Speaker 4>with pandering, the legal term for pimping, rather than the

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<v Speaker 4>usual obscenity charges they occasionally level at them. Hal Freeman

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<v Speaker 4>is hit with five pandering counts under California Penal Code

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<v Speaker 4>Section two sixty six I. He appeals and says porn

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<v Speaker 4>isn't pimping, it is filmmaking. It's art. The women he

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<v Speaker 4>hires to have sex on film aren't prostitutes, they're actresses.

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<v Speaker 4>The actors are paid for their performances in the movie,

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<v Speaker 4>not for doing the sex acts. They are playing characters

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<v Speaker 4>who are having sex in the scene.

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<v Speaker 22>Defendant Freeman is the president of Hollywood Video Production Company,

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<v Speaker 22>which is in the business of producing and marketing adult films.

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<v Speaker 22>In September nineteen eighty three, Defendant produced and directed a

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<v Speaker 22>film called Caught from Behind Part two. Defendant hired actors

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<v Speaker 22>and actresses to perform in the film. As part of

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<v Speaker 22>their roles, the performers engaged in various sexually explicit acts,

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<v Speaker 22>including sexual intercourse, oral copulation, and sodomy. People versus Freeman.

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<v Speaker 4>All the participants in Caught from Behind two had been

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<v Speaker 4>sent to hell Freeman by superagent Jim South through a

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<v Speaker 4>World modeling agency, except for Nancy Conger, the woman whose

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<v Speaker 4>private house they were renting for the shoot. Conger asked

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<v Speaker 4>if she could be in the movie too, and soon

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<v Speaker 4>enough she was signing a release form. The court tries

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<v Speaker 4>to find someone being exploited during the making of Caught

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<v Speaker 4>from Behind Part two, but all they find is a

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<v Speaker 4>film crew capturing a group of pro performers and one

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<v Speaker 4>amateur engaging in lawful sodomy. Sodomy had been a felony

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<v Speaker 4>crime in America until nineteen sixty two. Anti anal sex

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<v Speaker 4>laws were homophobic, but they were actually originally created as

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<v Speaker 4>a way to prosecute heterosexual non procreative sex, including blowjops.

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<v Speaker 4>Even married couples could be charged for having anal sex.

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<v Speaker 4>In nineteen sixty five, New York was the first state

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<v Speaker 4>to reduce sodomy down to a misdemeanor and excuse married couples.

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<v Speaker 4>Hal Freeman is convicted in California on all five counts

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<v Speaker 4>of pandering. He appeals his case to the California Supreme Court,

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<v Speaker 4>who overturned the conviction. The state of California then takes

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<v Speaker 4>the case to the U. S. Supreme Court hoping to

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<v Speaker 4>get a conviction for Freemen there.

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<v Speaker 23>I recognize that the state has a strong interest in

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<v Speaker 23>controlling prostitution within its jurisdiction, and at some point it

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<v Speaker 23>must certainly be true that otherwise illegal conduct is not

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<v Speaker 23>made legal by being filmed. Sandra Day O'Connor, Supreme Court Justice.

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<v Speaker 4>Supreme Court Judge Sandra Day O'Connor, of whom I am

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<v Speaker 4>normally know. Fandra day O'Connor did agree that the state

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<v Speaker 4>of California had no case against hal Freemen.

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<v Speaker 12>The U. S.

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<v Speaker 4>Supreme Court agreed with the California Supreme Court, which characterized

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<v Speaker 4>the pandering charges as an attempted quote and run around

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<v Speaker 4>the First Amendment and state obscenity laws. Despite landmark rulings

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<v Speaker 4>like this one, the First Amendment battles between pornographic filmmakers

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<v Speaker 4>and the American government rage on throughout the eighties. But

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<v Speaker 4>there's no stopping the porn industry behemoth, at least for now,

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<v Speaker 4>and so the Valley's porn studios continue to churn out

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<v Speaker 4>new films and mint new starlets like Ginger Lynn Allen.

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<v Speaker 4>This will be the porn Valley that welcomes Jenna Jamison.

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<v Speaker 16>Well, we're very approachable. If I were out and about

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<v Speaker 16>and I saw Madonna, I wouldn't even know what to say.

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<v Speaker 16>But if I saw Ginger Lynn, I'd be like, oh

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<v Speaker 16>my god, I have this boyfriend and he's been doing

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<v Speaker 16>crazy things to me in bed, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 16>what to say to him. I would feel open enough

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<v Speaker 16>with her to talk like she was my sister. It's

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<v Speaker 16>great because women are much freer when it comes to

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<v Speaker 16>their sexuality. In turn, that's helping men because they've got

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<v Speaker 16>these women who are trying to swing from chandeliers. Jenna Jamison.

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<v Speaker 4>Next time on jenal World, Episode four, The Valley Goes Gonzo.

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<v Speaker 4>Jamie Gillis invents gonzo porn with his on the Prowl series,

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<v Speaker 4>which takes off as the new hottest trend in Foreign Valley.

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<v Speaker 4>Jenna Jamison steps into the industry and makes her debut,

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<v Speaker 4>kicking off an illustrious career that will see her surpass

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<v Speaker 4>even Ginger Lynn Allen to become the biggest porn star

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<v Speaker 4>of all time. All this and more next time on

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<v Speaker 4>Jenna World. Jenna World is an iHeartRadio production executive produced

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<v Speaker 4>by Anna Hostier and Becca Ramos supervising, produced by Bei Wang,

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<v Speaker 4>produced by Victor Wright, script editing by Jonathan Mills, engineered

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<v Speaker 4>by Graham Gibson, and edited by Rory Gagan. Today's episode

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<v Speaker 4>of General World featured Yasi Solik as Ginger Lynn Allen,

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<v Speaker 4>Noah Garfinkel as Stephen Hirsch, Dave Horwitz as Paul Fishbeine,

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<v Speaker 4>Andrea Moore as Marcy Hirsch, Carvell Wallace as Andy Warhol,

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<v Speaker 4>Gwanadora as Viva, Victor Wright as Bud Lee, Will Sennett

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<v Speaker 4>as John C. Holmes, Christopher Chang as Bob Chin, Nick

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<v Speaker 4>Ciarelli as William Margold, Grant Crater as Jim South, Fay

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<v Speaker 4>Wang as Shirley, Dave McNamee as Jerry Butler, Jamie Minnellis

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<v Speaker 4>as Veronica Hart, joey Izzo as Bill Asher, Bridger Winneger

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<v Speaker 4>as David James, Jason Stewart as Charlie Sheen, Kayden Mark

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<v Speaker 4>Gardner as Christian Mann, Seth McCann as Jamie Summers, Ira

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<v Speaker 4>Madison the Third as Jeff Striker, Miles Clee as John Waters,

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<v Speaker 4>Lauren Gold as Vod Katonic, Alex Papadimus as People Versus

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<v Speaker 4>Freeman Lawyer Elena Smith as Sandra Day O'Connor and Laurenceer

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<v Speaker 4>video as Jenna Jamison

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<v Speaker 6>Mm HM