Speaker 1: Look out his only films to be buried with. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian and actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director, a barrista, and I love films. As AA
Speaker 1: Milne once said, you can't stay in your corner of
Speaker 1: the forest waiting for others to come to you. You
Speaker 1: have to go to them. Sometimes. It's like art films.
Speaker 1: You can't just expect them to share put your multiplex
Speaker 1: out of the blue. Sometimes you have to travel a
Speaker 1: bit into town to see them. Mate. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: fair point, AA Miln, well made. Every week I invite
Speaker 1: a special guest over. I tell them they've died. Then
Speaker 1: I get them to discuss their life through the films
Speaker 1: that meant the most of them. Previous guests include Sharon Stone,
Speaker 1: Kevin Smith, James A Castor and even Cred Fambles. But
Speaker 1: this week is the amazing comedian and start of Britain
Speaker 1: Scott Talent Deleso Too Ponder. Get over to the Patreon
Speaker 1: at Patreon dot com forwards spect gold Steam where you
Speaker 1: get Nextra fifteen minutes with Deliso, where we talk in
Speaker 1: depth about beginnings and endings. You get a secret from
Speaker 1: him that's pretty incredible. You also get the whole episode
Speaker 1: Uncarton as a video. Check it out over at patreon
Speaker 1: dot com. Forward Suspect Goldstein TV homework Ted Last Thirst
Speaker 1: season two has started to get caught up on all
Speaker 1: the episodes on Apple tv Plus. Also check out Soulmates
Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime. Mom will make you happy, the other
Speaker 1: will make you think. Hey, so I had never met
Speaker 1: Deliso before we recorded this on Zoom a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago. What you're hearing is our first ever conversation.
Speaker 1: He was a pure delight. I reckon you will love
Speaker 1: this one. So that is it for now. I very
Speaker 1: much hope you enjoy episode one hundred and fifty nine
Speaker 1: of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome to
Speaker 1: Films to be Buried With. It is me Brett Goldstein
Speaker 1: and I am joined today by a comedian, a got talenter,
Speaker 1: a got a golden buzzerer, a traveling comic, a TV comic,
Speaker 1: a hero to the country and to the world. Please
Speaker 1: welcome to the show, the brilliant Delsa Japonda. Hello, Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. I hope all of those are true.
Speaker 1: The last two particularly, I would love to be a
Speaker 1: national hero. I love it. Oh true, you're a stand up.
Speaker 1: I'm a stand up, and yet we've never met, which
Speaker 1: is very unusual. It's lovely to meet you on this.
Speaker 1: I've obviously seen you on the old Britain's Got Talent,
Speaker 1: of which you were excellent, and I've always wondered how
Speaker 1: much of your how much of your act is not
Speaker 1: TV friendly in real life? Really like fifteen percent. The
Speaker 1: reason why I made an easy transition is that I'm
Speaker 1: pretty clean. I'm not like seinfeld squeaky clean, but I'm
Speaker 1: like eighty percent clean, so there was very little that
Speaker 1: had to be taken out. In fact, all my discussions
Speaker 1: with them were more with stuff which was maybe a
Speaker 1: little too politically controversial, but even that I found ways
Speaker 1: to get away with it. That's really interesting. Oh that's great.
Speaker 1: Then I'd really like to hear that that it was
Speaker 1: true to your voice. Well, I started in African countries
Speaker 1: which are more conservative than the UK, so you're not
Speaker 1: doing the filth which you regularly see people doing in
Speaker 1: front of hen parties in South Africa. It's just it's
Speaker 1: a much more Christian religious conservative nations Malawi. You know,
Speaker 1: people complain if I do anything more. You can do
Speaker 1: suggestive like Panto level where to suggesture and to double
Speaker 1: on tondra, but the full on graphic stuff is only UK.
Speaker 1: The philographic stuff, that's why you had to come to
Speaker 1: the UK. I get it. I get it. So I
Speaker 1: would have a terrible time at the gig. Oh are
Speaker 1: you very over the Oh yeah, I mean there's I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to just grate together five minutes. I'm
Speaker 1: starting to think about maybe I perhaps I haven't crossed. Well,
Speaker 1: that's fantastic, And with the fifteen percent, then I want
Speaker 1: to know what that is like when you get to
Speaker 1: the fifteen percent of your staff that isn't TV friendly.
Speaker 1: So now what I do when I'm on tour, which
Speaker 1: I never used to do before Britain's got talent, is
Speaker 1: I have an interval in the middle, and before the interval,
Speaker 1: I make sure the first half is all five year
Speaker 1: olds could watch it right then before the interval, I say, look,
Speaker 1: I know some of you brought your kids because they
Speaker 1: like me on Telly, but the second half is adult oriented.
Speaker 1: So if you're willing to take on the responsibility, they
Speaker 1: can stay. But if not, it's up to you. And
Speaker 1: that way, I've given like a warning. So most of
Speaker 1: them still stay anyway, but they can't complain. And in
Speaker 1: a weird way, the kids almost like it in an
Speaker 1: extra way because they feel like, Oh, I'm listening to
Speaker 1: something I'm not allowed to listen to. Ah, yeah, be sorry,
Speaker 1: excited to come back after the interval. If you've been
Speaker 1: telling I'll be like fuck, yeah, exactly exactly. And so
Speaker 1: also the parents get to be cool parents because one
Speaker 1: or two parents take them away in the other ones
Speaker 1: like it's fine, it's fine, and you back on tour
Speaker 1: now have you been? I am back on tour now.
Speaker 1: I did the first non socially distant tour date on
Speaker 1: the Friday which just passed, and it was great, but
Speaker 1: it was odd. Yeah, after a year and a half,
Speaker 1: it feels very strange. But it was lovely, lovely to
Speaker 1: be back. Yeah. I had my first gig in a
Speaker 1: full pub and just walking in there, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this don't seem right. What are these people doing? Like
Speaker 1: is it this digest? I also noticed some people were
Speaker 1: uncomfortable at the beginning. Yeah, because I did an outdoor
Speaker 1: show yesterday and I realized that people are still more
Speaker 1: comfortable with the outdoor shows, and it's got to take
Speaker 1: a few months to get comfortable with the Also, when
Speaker 1: you're packed in like sorry, means no one feels comfortable
Speaker 1: any Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really interesting that. But
Speaker 1: then I do I did find where the gig I
Speaker 1: was at. As soon as people had some drinks, it
Speaker 1: was all forgotten. I did. It will take a few months.
Speaker 1: I think it would take a few points. That's very true.
Speaker 1: Alcohol works better. So are you also doing club gigs
Speaker 1: or are you just doing so I'm doing a mixture.
Speaker 1: So what I'm doing is I'm doing club gigs and
Speaker 1: then tour dates because I think this year I only
Speaker 1: have like twenty tour dates and then more of them
Speaker 1: are next year, and so I'm doing club gigs in
Speaker 1: between to polish the tour really because I wrote the
Speaker 1: tour trying it out on zoom and it's not the same.
Speaker 1: It's not the same. So I'm polishing the tour even
Speaker 1: though I'm touring it because every time I do it
Speaker 1: in a club I figure it out more. Wow. So
Speaker 1: we so in Lockdown? Were you alone? In Lockdown? I
Speaker 1: was alone for the first four months, which was depressing,
Speaker 1: like depressing and really like I don't know if I
Speaker 1: would have managed the whole eighteen months. But then around
Speaker 1: month five, I had a friend who was in a
Speaker 1: very abusive situation and she was stuck, and so I
Speaker 1: stold her just moving with me, my place is more
Speaker 1: will make it work. And then I wasn't now living
Speaker 1: with this person who had nowhere to go. And you know,
Speaker 1: as much as it was difficult in some respects, it
Speaker 1: was so much better than a lot. Well, man, that's amazing. Oh,
Speaker 1: I've forgotten to tell you something. Just surprise me. It's
Speaker 1: all good, okay, Well, yeah, my come as a surprise.
Speaker 1: I should have. I actually should have said it at
Speaker 1: the beginning. I was making notes. I did. This was
Speaker 1: one of my notes, but I should It's awkward. I'll
Speaker 1: just say, as you say it, say you've died, You're dead? No, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I had so much left to do. I know you
Speaker 1: had this out. You just figured it out. Yeah? Did
Speaker 1: anyone film it? Fuck? Oh? No? Oh no? No, how
Speaker 1: did you die? It actually makes sense because I did
Speaker 1: a gig and the gig went so well that afterwards
Speaker 1: they stormed the stage to carry me off, and I
Speaker 1: think they trampled me to death. So I died in
Speaker 1: a fan stampede. I think that was it. You were
Speaker 1: trampled by love. Yes, if you've got to go, it's
Speaker 1: very painful, but at least you're leaving in a positive emotion. Listen,
Speaker 1: I think the Wholemark Channel one day we'll make a
Speaker 1: film called Trampled by Love, the delays story. That's a
Speaker 1: good way to go. Do you worry about death. I
Speaker 1: don't worry about death. I worry about the death of
Speaker 1: family and the death of friends, but I don't worry
Speaker 1: about my own death, right, that's the main thing. I
Speaker 1: just worry about losing people. Yeah, And what do you
Speaker 1: think happens when you die? I believe there's a next stage,
Speaker 1: if not many next stages, So I don't believe it's
Speaker 1: it's over. I'm not sure what it is, but I
Speaker 1: definitely believe that there's something different that happens. And I
Speaker 1: actually think it might be even different for different people
Speaker 1: because everything's complicated. Because everything's complicated. Yeah, because I'm always like,
Speaker 1: the world is so complicated with different flora and fauna,
Speaker 1: and there's so much complicity complexity in life. Why do
Speaker 1: people think death will death will be simple? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you think it's like a different level, like as
Speaker 1: in do you believe then based on merit, as in
Speaker 1: if you've lived a good life. No, I'll explain. I'll
Speaker 1: explain a metaphor which resonated with me. So I'm not
Speaker 1: even sure what religion I am, but for a while
Speaker 1: I thought was Behigh. Now I'm not sure, but I
Speaker 1: agree with a lot of the Behigh faith. And one
Speaker 1: of the metaphors which one of them said to me, was,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're a baby, you've got fingers and
Speaker 1: you've got eyes. You don't use them, you don't know
Speaker 1: what they're for. They don't matter when you're in a fetus,
Speaker 1: and then you're born, and suddenly these things have a reason.
Speaker 1: And similarly, when you're alive they're stuff which doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense, like suffering, things which puzzle us. And then
Speaker 1: when you go to the next stage, they're like the
Speaker 1: fingers and eyes, and you suddenly understand why these things happened. Right,
Speaker 1: and that I've always thought there's a stage which we
Speaker 1: don't understand, but we're being prepared for that is coming up.
Speaker 1: That's one of the best things I've ever heard. If
Speaker 1: you want to go now, you can, no, No, because
Speaker 1: I remember when the person said it, it just felt
Speaker 1: you know, when things just resonate, they feel true even
Speaker 1: though you don't know why. There was something about it
Speaker 1: where I was like, yeah, this, this seems to seems
Speaker 1: to be that interesting, particularly about like the suffering and stuff.
Speaker 1: If you guys are next level, you're like, oh, yeah, cool,
Speaker 1: So I use that for blah blah blah. Yeah ah, god,
Speaker 1: I really like that. That's very good. And you're not
Speaker 1: scared of your own death. I'm not scared of my
Speaker 1: own death. I mean, like I you know, when I'm
Speaker 1: in a plane and it starts turbulence, I'm like, ah,
Speaker 1: I feel the fear in that moment. I feel fear,
Speaker 1: Like you know, when I was in a car and
Speaker 1: we were rare ended. I felt fear in that moment.
Speaker 1: But I don't think about death when I'm not in
Speaker 1: a moment where it's showed its face. Yeah. Okay, well
Speaker 1: that's good. Well I've got some news for you. There
Speaker 1: is a heaven, There is the next stage, and you're right,
Speaker 1: there is. It's different for different people. You're one, it's
Speaker 1: fucking brilliant. Your one is is top banana and it's
Speaker 1: filled with your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing? My
Speaker 1: favorite thing is probably, oh, this is I don't know
Speaker 1: if this will get me ejected from heaven half naked women, okay,
Speaker 1: so just my answer is getting me demoted to hell.
Speaker 1: So you this heaven is absolutely full of half naked women.
Speaker 1: And by the way, they've all got tremendous personalities and
Speaker 1: they're completely autonomous. Of course, of course they're not. They're
Speaker 1: not there to please you. They just happen. They're just there.
Speaker 1: They're just There're just they're everywhere and in this in
Speaker 1: this heaven, everyone is. They're very excited to see you,
Speaker 1: all these half naked women. They're very excited to see you,
Speaker 1: as usual, I imagine, but in this place, what they
Speaker 1: want to know about is they want to know about
Speaker 1: your life through the medium of film. Yes, the first
Speaker 1: thing they ask you is, what is the first film
Speaker 1: that you remember seeing, delsa chiponder. The first film I
Speaker 1: remember seeing is actually My Fair Lady, No Ship. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's my mum's film. No. Yeah. When I lived in
Speaker 1: Zambia where I was born, we only owned like three
Speaker 1: movies for the first six seven years of my life,
Speaker 1: and I was not allowed to watch one of them,
Speaker 1: which was Scarface, right, and I was not interested in
Speaker 1: another one of them, which was Cramer versus Kramer. But
Speaker 1: I loved My Fair Lady. I remember watching it and
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, it was singing and dancing in
Speaker 1: all sorts. And I must have watched it like seventy
Speaker 1: times when I was a little kid, because it was
Speaker 1: the one I was allowed to watch. Then we got
Speaker 1: Sound of Music, and I was also allowed to watch it,
Speaker 1: and I think musicals were just My parents were like,
Speaker 1: kids can watch this, Yeah, I love that. Do you
Speaker 1: have siblings? Yes, I have three older siblings. Wow. And
Speaker 1: so what's the age difference to you? So four before
Speaker 1: the next one and then two? So four six eight? Okay,
Speaker 1: so you had a baby, yes, and you're watching they
Speaker 1: watching with you? Were you on your OD? Yes. It's
Speaker 1: interesting because I barely remember it because I was so young.
Speaker 1: I just remember singing along, because it's not even that
Speaker 1: I remember the movie itself because I was so young,
Speaker 1: But I have memories of singing along to the songs
Speaker 1: which I liked. What's your favorite song from My Fair Lady?
Speaker 1: My favorite song? As an adult now, I don't think
Speaker 1: I appreciated the humor back then. Was just you Waite
Speaker 1: Henry Higgins, just you White, where she's fantasizing about killing him. Well,
Speaker 1: when I was a little kid, it was lots of
Speaker 1: chocolate for me to eat. But now as an adult,
Speaker 1: I love the homicidal fantasy. YEA, just putting out there
Speaker 1: to anyone who's listening, who may be a Broadway producer,
Speaker 1: would you be interested in playing Henry Higgins in Oh,
Speaker 1: I would love to do. I would love to do
Speaker 1: Henry Higgins. It would almost be like my life has
Speaker 1: been built up to this moment. Oh my god. And
Speaker 1: that would suit much more than like I'm doing a
Speaker 1: panto for the first time. Yeah, And you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'll be suited to there's something like
Speaker 1: Henry Higgins. I know, I know, I would know, I
Speaker 1: would know how to do that. He's part of you.
Speaker 1: What panto are you doing? Well, it's not yet confirmed,
Speaker 1: but it seems like I'll be one of the funny
Speaker 1: characters like simple Sam or Wishy Washy or something like
Speaker 1: that in one of these. And I've never done it
Speaker 1: before because it's very British. Yeah, it doesn't exist. And
Speaker 1: the first time I went to watch one, I did
Speaker 1: not understand what was going on. But I feel like
Speaker 1: I've been here enough that I can now do it.
Speaker 1: It's a very unique sense of humor. I'm going to
Speaker 1: tell you something to Lisa. I've seen maybe three or
Speaker 1: four pantas in my life and I don't understand. And
Speaker 1: I'm British. Yeah, I do not understand what is going guys.
Speaker 1: It's very weird. It's very weird, very unique. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's weird that it isn't anywhere else. But then I'm
Speaker 1: mostly like, well, how would you translate this anywhere else? Well, interestingly,
Speaker 1: I think you know, the Rocky Horror Picture show, Yes,
Speaker 1: is as close to a panto that people in the
Speaker 1: rest of the world have been introduced to because it
Speaker 1: was written by someone British. But it has all that
Speaker 1: yelling at the screen and yelling and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: which again, why are you yelling at people on stage? Show?
Speaker 1: I don't understand it. But again it's it's it's very
Speaker 1: and all sorts of fact. Is it for adults? Is
Speaker 1: it for kids? It's for kids, But that joke, that
Speaker 1: joke's not for kids. It fascinating. Yeah, that would be
Speaker 1: so interesting as someone who has been taught to deal
Speaker 1: with hecklers. If you've actively got an audience shout again,
Speaker 1: you might you might be horrible in its shut up,
Speaker 1: shut up, I'll be giving them put downs and exactly,
Speaker 1: that's that's really interesting. Okay, what is the film that
Speaker 1: made you cry the most? Are you a cryer? Well,
Speaker 1: this is the thing. I haven't cried since I was eleven. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I don't cry. What do you attribute that take? Well,
Speaker 1: I went to an old boys' school first, where there
Speaker 1: was a lot of bullying, a lot of violence, a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff like that. And I know this isn't
Speaker 1: the truth, but to my kid's self, crying was them winning. Wow.
Speaker 1: And there was a time when I thought to myself, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can beat me up, but I'm not going to
Speaker 1: give you the win of making me cry. And so
Speaker 1: I forced myself not to. So many years later I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, actually it's healthy to cry and so on.
Speaker 1: And then I tried to cry and I couldn't make
Speaker 1: myself cry. And that's where actually, this what my answer
Speaker 1: would be, is the movie which I tried to make
Speaker 1: myself cry with because I watched a movie and I
Speaker 1: felt myself welling up, but I didn't cry. So then
Speaker 1: I watched the scene again, and I watched the scene
Speaker 1: again trying to get there, and it was actually, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever watched mister Holland Opus, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I have watched it. Was it beautiful boy?
Speaker 1: You know that? Oh No, it wasn't beautiful boy. It
Speaker 1: was at the end, he's he's been unappreciated his whole life,
Speaker 1: and they play open they play his opus to him,
Speaker 1: and when he when he goes up to conduct his opus,
Speaker 1: and he wells up and then he starts that got me.
Speaker 1: That got me, And I was like, oh, I'm gonna cry.
Speaker 1: And it didn't happen, but I felt the emotion. I
Speaker 1: felt the emotion. That's so fascinating. So you so you
Speaker 1: haven't cried because of that bloody school since you're eleven? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I used to cry a lot when I
Speaker 1: was at that school, and it was just it was
Speaker 1: always like I always felt like I was losing in
Speaker 1: the corner of a dormitory, weeping, and and it was
Speaker 1: just like, no, I'm not gonna let him win. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna win. And I'm not the only one. I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people do this. And then much
Speaker 1: later in life when you know it's healthy, it's hard
Speaker 1: to reverse what you spent years forcing yourself to stop doing.
Speaker 1: And I guess it's a thing with you. I mean
Speaker 1: I relate to some of this, as in, I still
Speaker 1: not comfortable crying in front of anyone, but I can
Speaker 1: do it on my own in the cinema that as
Speaker 1: well the cinema rap. Yeah, if I'm on my own, Yes, Yes,
Speaker 1: I also think it's it's always there's something about people
Speaker 1: being appreciated that gets me, because I almost again I
Speaker 1: felt myself welling up. Did you watch Judy, which is
Speaker 1: about Judy Garland. No, I've not seen that one. There's
Speaker 1: a scene where she can't sing because she's so emotional,
Speaker 1: and these two gay people who are her fans, who've
Speaker 1: been coming every day, they stand up and they start
Speaker 1: singing for her, and then she gets enough strength, and
Speaker 1: again it got me. I don't ever never do I
Speaker 1: well up when it's tragedy, like someone dies. But it's
Speaker 1: that kind of people being appreciated of that thing gets
Speaker 1: me that gets me. I worry. I guess the worry
Speaker 1: is if you did finally cry, you'd never stop, because
Speaker 1: you never stop. I'm catching for over twenty years. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, for the listener. If you've never seen mister
Speaker 1: Holland's Opus, Opus, Opus, Yeah, I've always said Opus. There's
Speaker 1: a sequence in it. He's a music teacher and there's
Speaker 1: a sequence he has a deaf son and his son,
Speaker 1: and he gets frustrated with his son because he's son.
Speaker 1: He sort of has a falling out of his son.
Speaker 1: His son's difficult, and and it's because he sort of
Speaker 1: claimed he doesn't understand music right because the sun is deaf. Yes,
Speaker 1: And eventually he puts on his show for the Sun
Speaker 1: that is a light show that is kind of designed
Speaker 1: to express music to his son, Yes, exactly, sings to
Speaker 1: him and Mine's Beautiful Boy by John Lennon. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm crying telling you. It It fantastic, isn't it. It's
Speaker 1: a fantastic movie. It's a fantastic Yeah. Lovely answer, lovely
Speaker 1: earns for hasn't come up ten points. What's the film
Speaker 1: that scared you, Demise? What about being scared? You like it?
Speaker 1: Being scared? I like fear, like psychological fear. I don't
Speaker 1: like jump scares, okay, And the film which I think
Speaker 1: scared me the most, it had me on edge. The
Speaker 1: whole way was twenty eight days later. And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you why, because in most horror movies, the music tells
Speaker 1: you what's coming. So if there's a monster, because the
Speaker 1: music is making you expect it in twenty eight days later.
Speaker 1: I believe it was Danny Boyle. He did it with
Speaker 1: no music cues. It was just silence. And then the
Speaker 1: silence then ended up making you more tense because it
Speaker 1: never stops and it could be at any moment. Oh
Speaker 1: that really got me, really got me, very very good,
Speaker 1: very good answer. What is the film that you love
Speaker 1: but people don't like it critically, is not acclaimed, but
Speaker 1: you see and by it. I'm sure other people have
Speaker 1: said it, But it's Star Wars, The Phantom Menace. So
Speaker 1: much backlash, so many people to this day going on
Speaker 1: about it. I love it. I loved it then, I
Speaker 1: loved it now if I'm having a bad day, I
Speaker 1: just watch a bunch of Star Wars movies. I don't
Speaker 1: understand the backlash. Oh my god, I just love it.
Speaker 1: And anytime someone starts talking crap about it, I'm like,
Speaker 1: leave George Lucas alone. Okay, okay, it's love me. Oh
Speaker 1: that's great. You stand up for it, have you? You
Speaker 1: must have? And for the list, I don't look. Maybe
Speaker 1: this is a well worn path, but I only found
Speaker 1: it out in the I think Jason shared it with
Speaker 1: us in the Ted last I write it's from little
Speaker 1: backstage secret for you. There the theory that Jajar Binks
Speaker 1: was intended to be the villain of the prequel trilogy.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard that theory? I've heard that theory.
Speaker 1: I know that was just it's just people love doing
Speaker 1: fun theories. I think he was pretty solid theory. He's
Speaker 1: got The guy who came up with it has so
Speaker 1: much evidence to back it up. And the idea was,
Speaker 1: the plan was he was going to be the villain,
Speaker 1: but people hated him so much they had to change
Speaker 1: the story. It's a good idea. It's a great idea.
Speaker 1: It's a great idea. I really like it. What's the
Speaker 1: film that you used to love? You loved it with
Speaker 1: all your heart, and then you've watched it recently and
Speaker 1: you thought, oh no, that is not for me. Well
Speaker 1: it's interesting because I think it's when you get additional information,
Speaker 1: you can't enjoy old things. So there's no information ruins it,
Speaker 1: so Robinson Crusoe, right, which I loved as a kid.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've what Robinson Crusoe, but Robinson
Speaker 1: Crusoe in the book. Once you've read the book, do
Speaker 1: you know what he was up to before he got marooned? No,
Speaker 1: but I do. Selling slaves. Yes, okay, he was selling slaves.
Speaker 1: I cannot It's just I didn't know that. That's what
Speaker 1: he was. He was on his bite for that was
Speaker 1: what he was. That's what he was. He was a
Speaker 1: slaver who got marooned. And then he finds this and
Speaker 1: you would think when you see the plot that, okay,
Speaker 1: he's marooned, and then he meets this guy, man Friday.
Speaker 1: This is going to be a thing where he learns
Speaker 1: to value the kind of person who used to order around. No,
Speaker 1: he just orders him around too. I can't watch it now.
Speaker 1: I can't watch it now knowing the you know, colonial
Speaker 1: mindset of Daniel the Foe and so on. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't watch it. So he was on
Speaker 1: a boat with slaves, he gets shipwrecked. Man Friday is
Speaker 1: not one of the slaves Man Fridays on the island. No,
Speaker 1: he's a he's a native on the island a cannibal
Speaker 1: who he meets and convinces out of being a cannibal,
Speaker 1: makes him a Christian, but also essentially makes him a servant.
Speaker 1: And how easy? How easy? Like how quickly does that happen?
Speaker 1: So he's gone from happening lies the slaves to just one.
Speaker 1: It happens really really quickly. And again they could have
Speaker 1: been written as equals, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: he's also, in fact, he knows nothing about surviving on
Speaker 1: an island. He only survives because of the knowledge of
Speaker 1: this savage. How does it end? So it all ends happily?
Speaker 1: Take man Friday with him. Yeah, and he doesn't that's
Speaker 1: not in the book, that's it. But he just he
Speaker 1: doesn't learn anything. He doesn't learn anything. God, that is
Speaker 1: so like I did not know that was the story,
Speaker 1: right Robin's crea. Of course in every movie version, none
Speaker 1: of that's in it, right, But now that I know
Speaker 1: that that's the real version, that's where the book comes from.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if Disney or anyone makes a version, I'll
Speaker 1: be like, you're you're leaving out a very significant detail,
Speaker 1: aren't you. That's so fascinating as well? And if you
Speaker 1: know anything about like no, so you get from producers
Speaker 1: about making characters likable. It's amazing that there was a
Speaker 1: writer who said, I've got this story and the lead character.
Speaker 1: You'll love him? Will we love him? Yeah? Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a slave. He's a slave. Yes, But I think it
Speaker 1: also shows you in that time it wasn't even considered negative.
Speaker 1: It was just like, I'm creating a character. What should
Speaker 1: I make him a carpenter? He sells slaves? Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: do slaves. Was not remotely considered it. Yeah, what's going
Speaker 1: to be more useful for the story. If he's a carpenter,
Speaker 1: he's probably not going to have that much struggle on
Speaker 1: the island. He's a slaver. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's extraordinary. All right. I'm giving you thirty
Speaker 1: points for that because I learned something. What is the
Speaker 1: film that means the most to you? Not necessarily the
Speaker 1: film itself is any good, but because the experience you
Speaker 1: had around seeing the film will always make it special
Speaker 1: to you. Well, it initially started out very awkward. So
Speaker 1: I watched I think it's called A Guy and two Girls.
Speaker 1: It's it's with Robert Downey Jr. Right, Oh, yes, it's
Speaker 1: that's the one. That's the one, and I happened to
Speaker 1: buy just the luck of flipping channels. Start watching this
Speaker 1: with my mother. Extremely awkward, right, because you know, essentially
Speaker 1: it's about it three sermon, infidelity and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: Very awkward, but led to the most crazy open discussion
Speaker 1: about morality and fidelity and marriage and secrets of my
Speaker 1: mother's marriage and stuff that would never have come up.
Speaker 1: But because we were just talking about this movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I found out so much that I would never have
Speaker 1: wanted to ask my mother, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It led to this fascinating conversation and no regrets. Now
Speaker 1: you know your additional information, No regrets, no regrets. It
Speaker 1: was really interesting because it was triggered by a line
Speaker 1: in the movie which I'm paraphrated, but it was it
Speaker 1: was something like people are more complicated than you think.
Speaker 1: And my mother was agreeing with that and going on
Speaker 1: and because I didn't believe it was realistic and she
Speaker 1: felt it was realistic, and then she started telling me
Speaker 1: that people you're young, but you know, people are much
Speaker 1: more complicated than you think. This sort of stuff happened
Speaker 1: and she explained, and it was crazy that is fascinating.
Speaker 1: And now you're older, are you like, oh, yeah, people
Speaker 1: fucking everyone's incredibly Yes. Yes, I think I've also realized
Speaker 1: that a normal relationship is a myth correct and yeah,
Speaker 1: your whole life, all your until your twenties, you are
Speaker 1: expecting a normal relationship. Yeah, it doesn't exist. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: really interesting, and I think it is also why I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's almost a cliche to say, but it's true,
Speaker 1: is that most love stories in the mainstream are about
Speaker 1: people getting together then, not about afterwards. They're not about
Speaker 1: afterwards because afterwards is messy and you can't have that nice,
Speaker 1: simple cherry on top ending unless you you ended before
Speaker 1: things get complicated. But there's a book I love, Time
Speaker 1: Traveler's Wife, which is actually a horrible movie, but the
Speaker 1: book has this amazing scene where someone is saying, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, the reason why Lois Lane doesn't find out
Speaker 1: that Superman is Superman is it makes for more interesting stories.
Speaker 1: And the woman who's the main characters like, no, I
Speaker 1: don't think you're right at all. I think it's more
Speaker 1: interesting if she knew, and because she knows that her
Speaker 1: husband time travels, and it creates all kinds of interesting thing. Man,
Speaker 1: that's really good stuff. That's really good stuff. What's the
Speaker 1: sexiest film you've ever seen? Now this is going to
Speaker 1: sound very weird, but I actually think the sexiest film
Speaker 1: I've ever seen is Interview with a Vampire. That makes sense,
Speaker 1: it does. It's very sexy film. It's got fangs and
Speaker 1: this kind of danger, and it's set in this previous
Speaker 1: era and it's just oozing sexuality. It's just and I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if that is the response
Speaker 1: I'm meant to be having to this movie. It is
Speaker 1: very exciting. Yeah, And there's a there's a great scene
Speaker 1: where they in where it's a show. There's a show
Speaker 1: going on, and they bring up a woman from the
Speaker 1: Then they later and the audience aren't sure if it's real,
Speaker 1: and everyone sort of collapsed, and then it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's happened? And I think it's all shot in a
Speaker 1: way to play with you, because even though it's horrific,
Speaker 1: it's all shot very stylistically and sexy. Yes, very much
Speaker 1: Interview with a Vampire, I mean an excellent answer. It
Speaker 1: says a lot about you. I love it, which which
Speaker 1: makes me now very excited and nervous about the subcategory question,
Speaker 1: which is traveling, bonus worrying. Why does a film found
Speaker 1: a rousing? You weren't sure you should now, interestingly, I
Speaker 1: have screwed it up. I've screwed it up. Interview with
Speaker 1: the Vampire was meant to be that answer, and then
Speaker 1: the one which was extremely sexy, which is meant to
Speaker 1: be is bound by the washout Bound is sexy? Yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: So I confused the two. I confused the two from
Speaker 1: the wording of the question. But yes, Bound, extremely sexy,
Speaker 1: sexy women, leather, the mafia. It's all just sexy, it's all.
Speaker 1: And it was also like practice for filming the Matrix,
Speaker 1: because like it's all obsessed with leather and the camera
Speaker 1: focusing on people in very sexy positions, very cool, very
Speaker 1: shot with a telephone chorde, going through wires, going down ceilings.
Speaker 1: I mean that's sexy, hundred percent, the telephone chord sexy film. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so that was the one which no shame, Yes, I
Speaker 1: continue extremely sexy and interview the Vampire. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: I should be as interested as I am. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: that is good, that is correct. What is the film
Speaker 1: that you must relate to delete such. It's very recent actually,
Speaker 1: but Dolomite is my name. I fucking loved that film.
Speaker 1: It's so good and I you know, and it's also
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like Eddie Murphy's love letter to
Speaker 1: being a stand up because I feel like it captures
Speaker 1: why I love it and also the kind of comedian
Speaker 1: I am, because I really love that he was a
Speaker 1: guy who his talent was just doing it. He wasn't
Speaker 1: a genius, he was just like he like he made
Speaker 1: movies even though he was a bit pudgy and he
Speaker 1: shouldn't be the leading character, and he was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the leading character. And there's a really
Speaker 1: funny scene where he is stressing out because he's like,
Speaker 1: no one wants to see me in a sex scene,
Speaker 1: and this woman's like, let's just make it funny, and
Speaker 1: so they made it funny. And I was like, if
Speaker 1: I'm ever in a movie and I have to do
Speaker 1: a sex scene, that's gonna be my only way. I
Speaker 1: would just be like, let's make it funny and just
Speaker 1: but also just that feeling appreciated and that moment where
Speaker 1: everyone started applauding and started going, well is my entire life.
Speaker 1: Because I had a long time where I was performing
Speaker 1: and I loved it and I thought I was good,
Speaker 1: and then suddenly I had a turning point where suddenly
Speaker 1: I'm getting acclaim for it. So that's the one I
Speaker 1: relate to a hundred times. I'm sure you've talked about
Speaker 1: it loads and loads, but it isn't to be taken lightly.
Speaker 1: It's a big fucking deal doing Britain's got talent. He's huge,
Speaker 1: huge deal because before that I was fun. It was
Speaker 1: that thing of you felt that you're funny, but no
Speaker 1: one else agrees. You know, you're you're struggling to pay
Speaker 1: your rent and your family's telling you it's not too
Speaker 1: late to go back to UNI and do something else.
Speaker 1: And it was just that moment where I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: I haven't been wasting my time. You see, Yeah, were
Speaker 1: you ner? I wasn't nervous till the final. I was
Speaker 1: just because I literally did it thinking like I had
Speaker 1: done a bunch of other competitions. Okay, I had done
Speaker 1: you know, America meets World. I had done all the
Speaker 1: British ones like Laughing Horse. So I just went on,
Speaker 1: it's another competition I probably won't do well because I
Speaker 1: usually just do okay in these, but you know, it's
Speaker 1: rolling the dice, and it just went so well. I
Speaker 1: was more surprised than anyone else. I knew I wouldn't
Speaker 1: do terribly, but I didn't expect a golden buzzer or
Speaker 1: to change my life. So it was amazing. That was amazing. Wow, man,
Speaker 1: that's cool. I wish you had ended and ended your
Speaker 1: set by screaming you see, I told you I would
Speaker 1: be wonderful, told okay, all right, well thanks for coming.
Speaker 1: Um so yeah is my name? I love that film
Speaker 1: and it is really interesting because it's like his gift
Speaker 1: was You're right in terms of like people loved him
Speaker 1: and love him, and his gift wasn't necessarily he wasn't
Speaker 1: the greatest, most brilliant, any of it, but it was
Speaker 1: like joy. His gift was joy and joy and energy
Speaker 1: termination and energy. Oh yes, wonderful. You just liked being
Speaker 1: near him and it was Yeah, it's a real magic. Objectively,
Speaker 1: what's the greatest film ever made? I believe life is beautiful?
Speaker 1: Oh my days, life is beautiful. She's not aware of it.
Speaker 1: It's one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. But
Speaker 1: it's set in a concentration camp. Ye, right. But the
Speaker 1: beautiful thing about it is the humor is served in
Speaker 1: a father using humor to shield his son from the
Speaker 1: horror therein by making him think it's a game and
Speaker 1: keeping him laughing. And it was funny, it was moving,
Speaker 1: and it also changed how I approached comedy because until
Speaker 1: I watched that, I was just trying to be funny.
Speaker 1: And then I watched it and I was like, humor
Speaker 1: can do that. And that was the moment when I
Speaker 1: started trying to be more ambitious in what I tried
Speaker 1: to talk about. Me doing jokes about slavery or colonialism
Speaker 1: would never have happened if I hadn't watched that. And
Speaker 1: I realized that humor is actually the perfect thing to
Speaker 1: talk about uncomfortable, horrible things. And I watched it probably
Speaker 1: every year at some moment. It's just I love it,
Speaker 1: absolutely love it. That's brilliant to here. I really loved
Speaker 1: that film. I haven't wasted it for a long time,
Speaker 1: and it's one I think Jojo Rabbit. It occupies a
Speaker 1: similar space, only in terms of both films were very
Speaker 1: controversial and people like, you can't you can't use humor
Speaker 1: in these situations but again I would say like in
Speaker 1: both situations, it's like, yeah, but the humor isn't. The
Speaker 1: human is not on the wrong side of this, it's not.
Speaker 1: And I actually think it was really received with a
Speaker 1: lot less controversy than Georgio Rabbit because it won all
Speaker 1: the Oscars. And yeah, yeah, because it was made by
Speaker 1: he put his own money in it. So it was
Speaker 1: made by essentially the Italian Charlie Chaplin. Yeah, Roberto Benini,
Speaker 1: who just used to to act in delightful but silly movies.
Speaker 1: It was like made like it was as if Adam
Speaker 1: Sandler he directs this crazy warm movie out of nowhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really it's really good. And the last it's it's
Speaker 1: quite subtle. For Yeah, there's so much in it. I
Speaker 1: remember in the final moment with him, like the last
Speaker 1: thing you see of him, like it's in hindsight, so heartbreaking.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, and there's scene where the little kid
Speaker 1: just runs away like it's true, it's all true, and yeah,
Speaker 1: we won the tank. It's it's just it's beautiful. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: What a great answer. I'm going to give you forty
Speaker 1: points for that. Fantastic What is the film that you
Speaker 1: could or have watched the most over and over again.
Speaker 1: There's an answer which is probably true, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: people have said it too many times. So then I
Speaker 1: have the one which is probably the second most, which
Speaker 1: is less common, So the one I've watched over and
Speaker 1: over again because whenever it's on, I end up watching
Speaker 1: the rest of it is the Shot Shine Redemption, which
Speaker 1: is like a perfect movie. I've seen it again and again.
Speaker 1: But I figure loads of people what probably said that.
Speaker 1: They do a lot of people said it for that,
Speaker 1: because that's quite a hard film, Like I don't think
Speaker 1: people are like, really, I watched that over and over again.
Speaker 1: It's I think a lot of people think it's the greatest,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's It's like a rewatcher on loop.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I do we watch. Not that I
Speaker 1: watch it from straight, but literally, if I'm in a
Speaker 1: hotel in some after some gig and I'm flipping channels
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, sure, shank, there you go, that's
Speaker 1: the next two hours. I mean, like, anytime I find it,
Speaker 1: I think I'll watch one scene and then I get
Speaker 1: sucked in. So there's that one. But then the one,
Speaker 1: which I think is just me is Speed. Speed is
Speaker 1: fucking great. It's so great. I still feel it's the
Speaker 1: perfect action movie. It's like clockwork and it just oh again,
Speaker 1: I can't watch one scene. If I catch it in
Speaker 1: progress anywhere, and I watch one scene, I'm watching to
Speaker 1: the end. Speed is really great. And I'm sorry if
Speaker 1: I've ever talked about this on the podcast before, but
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of episodes and I may once
Speaker 1: have said this, but Speed one is a near perfect
Speaker 1: You're right, it's a perfect idea. He's on a bus,
Speaker 1: the bus needs to keep going above fifty or a
Speaker 1: bomb's going to go off. And then the thing that
Speaker 1: is so fascinating is the sequel, Speed to Cruise Control
Speaker 1: is set on a cruise ship, which is such a
Speaker 1: terrible idea, just concept. Why why not a plane or
Speaker 1: a trade yes that goes fast and has obstacles in
Speaker 1: the way. A cruise ship doesn't go very fast to
Speaker 1: start with, and there's nothing in the way of it
Speaker 1: because it's in the sea. So in terms of like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's it going to hit and stuff? Nothing, it's in
Speaker 1: the sea. Occasionally it might come across something, but hopefully
Speaker 1: you can warn people in time to get out of
Speaker 1: the way because you're only going about I don't know
Speaker 1: how fast they go, but it don't seem very fast
Speaker 1: because there's nothing in the way of them. There's nothing
Speaker 1: in the way, and there's no keyana reefs. It's just no. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the real, the real down. But
Speaker 1: it's so mad that that was like there must have
Speaker 1: been many a long long meeting about what next, what
Speaker 1: can we make has to go under I mean, it
Speaker 1: has to keep going over thirty and they probably were like, oh,
Speaker 1: those ones are too obvious, let's surprise them with a boat.
Speaker 1: And that was the worst cruise ship. So yeah, really terrible. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't like to be negative. I don't suspect you
Speaker 1: do either. We'll do it quickly. But what's the worst
Speaker 1: film you've ever seen? Now? This is one where it's
Speaker 1: just I think I was too dumb, right, I've what
Speaker 1: Jacob's ladder, yes, And I got very confused. I'm very
Speaker 1: bad with surrealism and just kind of dream sequences and
Speaker 1: I just kept looking around, like what's going on? What
Speaker 1: is going on? Maybe now this many years later, I
Speaker 1: should try it again and I will be able to
Speaker 1: understand it. But at the time I was just like,
Speaker 1: what's the point of this, what's going on? Well, I
Speaker 1: don't think you get the answer to what's going on
Speaker 1: until right at the end, so you do have to
Speaker 1: stick with it. I mean, it is an hour and
Speaker 1: a half of maddening, maddening confusion, yes, but then at
Speaker 1: the end, you guys, and by the way, this is
Speaker 1: what this is what it's about. Okay, Well even I
Speaker 1: don't remember, but I just remember the pain. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: fair enough. I know that when it comes to narratives,
Speaker 1: I'm unexperimental like so, when I'm reading fiction, I wanted
Speaker 1: to be told in a straight line. I don't want
Speaker 1: letters to be flying around the page in some kind
Speaker 1: of literary experiment. When I'm watching a movie, I don't
Speaker 1: want characters to be changing their faces every scene and
Speaker 1: some kind of avant garde thing. I'm like, no, just
Speaker 1: tell me a simple story. Well right, yeah, it can
Speaker 1: be deep and make me think afterwards, but it should
Speaker 1: be told simpler. Yeah, the bus is going to go, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: nice and simple. Has to get from here to here, right,
Speaker 1: no flashback, Keeth, simple, brilliant. Now you're in comedy, you're
Speaker 1: very funny. What's the film that made you laugh the most.
Speaker 1: This was actually in a cinema and I was laughing
Speaker 1: so hard people kept looking at me. Four Lions a
Speaker 1: fucking great film. Robert Digney Rapids. It's so funny. It
Speaker 1: is so funny, and I also it was also one
Speaker 1: of those ones where like life is beautiful. I don't
Speaker 1: know how he's making this subject funny, but it's hilarious.
Speaker 1: It was so funny. It was so funny. It's I'm
Speaker 1: vaguely obsessed with that film. I think it's it's profound,
Speaker 1: that film, and it's proper funny, and it's something about
Speaker 1: the one of the ways of looking at it. I
Speaker 1: always think he's right at the beginning when you see
Speaker 1: that they're making a hostage video, they're making a threat video,
Speaker 1: and he's saying I'm going to he's trying to threaten people,
Speaker 1: and then they cut and they go your guns too small,
Speaker 1: your machine gun looks like a toy gun. It's not
Speaker 1: threatening enough. And it's just the reality of going, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: these videos that's scared that you've been scared of. They
Speaker 1: also had to make these. You might be watching take three,
Speaker 1: you might be watching Take ten. They had to set
Speaker 1: up their background you know, and as soon as you
Speaker 1: make it human, it's like, oh, it's not scary, it's
Speaker 1: just very much that. And also the fact that terrorists
Speaker 1: are probably idiots, yeah, because you have to be a
Speaker 1: bit of an idiot if you're like, this is how
Speaker 1: I'm going to solve my problems. And it embraces that
Speaker 1: to the most wonderful level. Y so wonderful, and it
Speaker 1: still has empathy for them. It has so much empathy
Speaker 1: for them. You feel for them. And they're stupid, they're misguided,
Speaker 1: but they're you know, they have a heart. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a really I was amazed you actually empathized for
Speaker 1: the empathized for them. Yeah. Yeah, it's a brilliant piece
Speaker 1: of work. That. Oh my god, it's good. Well done,
Speaker 1: Well done, Chris Morris. I'm going to give you sixty
Speaker 1: points for bringing up four lions excellent delsach a point
Speaker 1: that you have been an absolute delight. I can't believe
Speaker 1: we've just met. I loved talking to you. Now. The
Speaker 1: last thing I have to say is when you were
Speaker 1: doing a showy but it's probably the best show you
Speaker 1: ever did, and the audience leapt to their fitt You
Speaker 1: hadn't even done your en care. You were going to
Speaker 1: do an encore. But the audience, they loved you so much,
Speaker 1: it was like they didn't even it didn't cross their
Speaker 1: mind that you hadn't given them all that you had,
Speaker 1: because it felt like they can't be any there can't
Speaker 1: be more. What we've just seen is perfect. And they
Speaker 1: ran towards as one, like a collective madness. Let's pick
Speaker 1: him up, let's pick him up. And they stormed the
Speaker 1: stage and you were like, oh wow, and a bit overwhelmed,
Speaker 1: but it's but they ran too fast, and they ran
Speaker 1: up the stage like like orcs in the two towers,
Speaker 1: going towards Helm's Deep, and they got on top of
Speaker 1: you to try and pick you up, but there was
Speaker 1: a rush, too much of a rush, and they started.
Speaker 1: You fell underneath some of them, and they the crowds
Speaker 1: were coming faster and faster. We love you, we love you,
Speaker 1: we love you. But they didn't understand the people, but
Speaker 1: they were going, wait, we'll wait. The people at the
Speaker 1: back were still pushing forward, and you were trampled by
Speaker 1: love to death and the entire crowd just kept running
Speaker 1: over you until you were dead. No one knew you
Speaker 1: were dead. Phrases. There were rumors spread around the crowd
Speaker 1: like or maybe someone already got him at the front.
Speaker 1: He must be and we must already be carrying him
Speaker 1: into the streets. So people filed out the fire exits
Speaker 1: thinking this, thinking that the front of this crowd, this big,
Speaker 1: snaking crowd going through soho had you at the front
Speaker 1: of it? But it didn't. You were smashed into the stage.
Speaker 1: And I came along to see you after the show,
Speaker 1: you know it, said well, yeah, we'll meet up show
Speaker 1: we can talk about it. I've come there. I'm like,
Speaker 1: where's de Liso and the stagemen I says, I think
Speaker 1: he got carried out on everyone's shoulders. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: what's that on the stage And he goes, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know. We go over to the stage and there's
Speaker 1: a fucking I only describe as a puddle with bones
Speaker 1: in it, a bony puddle in the stage. There's splinters
Speaker 1: in it. Also, I'm like, oh my god, he's been
Speaker 1: trampled by love. So I go, right, well, I've got
Speaker 1: a coffin with me. You know what I'm like, So
Speaker 1: asked the stage manager. You can give me a hand,
Speaker 1: he says, Now, I'm clocking off earlier. I go all right,
Speaker 1: so I'm on my own. So I have to peel
Speaker 1: you off the stage. There's bits of wood coming off
Speaker 1: with you. There's bits of nails coming off with you.
Speaker 1: There's blood everywhere. I'm scraping everything I can into the coffin.
Speaker 1: I stuff you all in there. There's a lot more
Speaker 1: of you than I was expecting because of all this trampling.
Speaker 1: There's really no room in this coffin. There is only
Speaker 1: enough room for me to slip one DVD into the
Speaker 1: side for you to take across to the other side.
Speaker 1: And on the other side, it's Maybe night every night.
Speaker 1: What film are you taking to show the people of
Speaker 1: heaven when it is your Maybe night? Deleat such a ponda,
Speaker 1: I think I am taking This is an odd one.
Speaker 1: But I just love this movie. It's called Smiller's Sense
Speaker 1: of Snow. Smiller's Sense. I don't know if you've seen it.
Speaker 1: It's so good. It's so good if essentially the little
Speaker 1: blurb is a little boy dies on the snow, like
Speaker 1: on a snowy roof. He commits suicide off the snowy roof.
Speaker 1: But there's a woman who she grew up in Greenland
Speaker 1: and she knows all about snow, and she looks at
Speaker 1: the footprints and she knows that isn't what happened, and
Speaker 1: it's like, it's just absolutely fascinating. And the character, the
Speaker 1: main character is actually almost unlikable, but it's just a tough,
Speaker 1: strong person and you understand why she's that like that,
Speaker 1: and it's just a mean Smiller's sense of snow, that's
Speaker 1: the one. Why unbelievable and no one saw that coming outswer. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's so good. It's so good. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've seen it, but it's worth it's worth looking at.
Speaker 1: It's one of those unsung sort of you watch it
Speaker 1: and you're like, why didn't this get a lot more? Um?
Speaker 1: I actually think it preceded things like Girl with a
Speaker 1: Dragon Tattoo. It's that's sort of same kind of Nordic.
Speaker 1: Do you know why I think that film wasn't massive
Speaker 1: purely because of the title. Yes, you should have that.
Speaker 1: It makes you expect something else, it makes you strict
Speaker 1: at something else. It should have been called Snow Death
Speaker 1: or Snow Snow Tile. Yes, you're entirely right, entirely right.
Speaker 1: Smilla's sense of snow sounds confusing and like it artie,
Speaker 1: and it's not an art film. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: really good detective thing. Listen, I'm going to ask you this.
Speaker 1: I would like to put this out in the world.
Speaker 1: Do you reckon? You could sing us just one verse?
Speaker 1: You can do any any bit you like in my
Speaker 1: fair lady. I just want to get this. I want
Speaker 1: to make this happen. Okay, um, what's this? Uh? Okay,
Speaker 1: let me actually just get it. I appreciate I'm putting
Speaker 1: you on the spot. You don't have to do it,
Speaker 1: but let's get you that job. Okay. I can't sing,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do this just because it's going to
Speaker 1: be funny and shambolic. Okay, here we go. I'm going
Speaker 1: to do a little bit lyric find here we go.
Speaker 1: I'm going to do one verse of I'm getting married
Speaker 1: in the morning. Perfect. Okay, here we go. Oh, they
Speaker 1: don't have the lyrics. Okay, so I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: do it based on my memory. You would think the
Speaker 1: internet is for these things to get married again. I
Speaker 1: can't do the accents. This is why I'll never get it.
Speaker 1: I can't do cock me actors. But let me believe
Speaker 1: in you. I'm getting married in the morning. Ding dong,
Speaker 1: the bells are going a chime. Pull out the stopper.
Speaker 1: Let's have a whoppa. But get me to the church
Speaker 1: on time. As an aside, that character the dad in
Speaker 1: My Fair Lady, it's actually from the play by George
Speaker 1: Bernard Shaw without the singing, is such an amazing character.
Speaker 1: De Lisa like a grifter. He's lazy, but he's lovable. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's so lovable. You are getting on that stage. Listen
Speaker 1: this year, pante next year, My fair Lady, start the
Speaker 1: singing lessons. Now, get anyone who's listening to this. You
Speaker 1: passed that moment around. Let's get him the first. Fantastic Lisa,
Speaker 1: is there anything you'd like to people to look out
Speaker 1: for coming up? I suppose you have your tour. I'm
Speaker 1: on tour. I'm on tour. It's called apocalypse. Not now.
Speaker 1: Hopefully you're listening to this. We're not in another lockdown.
Speaker 1: Come see me live well while we are able to
Speaker 1: to be in the same room, come and be in
Speaker 1: the same room. Trample him with love. Don't trample him
Speaker 1: with love, just just love and clap. We love all right,
Speaker 1: I've loved this. Thank you so much for doing this.
Speaker 1: I hope you have a no thank you. It's been
Speaker 1: actually a pleasure. This one's been lovely, a wonderful time,
Speaker 1: and I will hopefully see you in real life soon.
Speaker 1: Good day, fantastic, Thank you so much so. That was
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