1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: We want to move on to something now that is, 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: of course, something that all sports fans are excited about. 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: Anyone who is a fan of. 4 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Las Vegas is excited about because Formula one is preparing 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: to race right through the neon heart of the city 6 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: of sin the three point eight mile track, where we've 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: passed world famous casinos and hotels, with drivers reaching speeds 8 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: of up to two hundred and twelve miles per hour. 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: This is a giant undertaking. 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: It required an investment of five hundred million dollars and 11 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm pleased to say that joining us now is Greg Mafay, 12 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: CEO of Liberty Media, the parent company of Formula One. Greg, 13 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. I'm sure you're 14 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: very excited. Gives a sense of what the last minute 15 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: preparation looks like right now from where you sit. 16 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. Well, we are all very excited. 17 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 3: I think that all of Las Vegas is gearing up 18 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: and we're ensuring that the track, the barriers are set. 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: We're ensuring that the track is clear and clean, and 20 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: we're ready to go. 21 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: You're ready to go. 22 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: And of course there's been a couple of US Grand Prix. 23 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: There's been one in Austin, there's been one in my 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of people say that the Awesome one 25 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: really felt like it was one for the people, for 26 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: regular fans, while the one in Miami and now the 27 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: one in Vegas feels more like it's for corporate sponsors 28 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: and the ticket prices are a little bit more out 29 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: of reach. How worried are you that three US GRANP 30 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: races might be a little bit too much and differentiating 31 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: between these different races, Well. 32 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: First, I think each of the races has a different character, 33 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 3: and they're very have characteristics which make them unique and 34 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: special and all worthy. I do think Vegas is going 35 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: to be unique in that it's a night race down 36 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: the strip. 37 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 4: On a Saturday night. 38 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be iconic, the visuals will 39 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: be amazing, and I am not worried about demand because 40 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: we have been lucky enough to see interest in Formula 41 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: one explode here in the US, partly due to Netflix, 42 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: partly due to social media, partly due to the quality 43 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: of the product. We've seen increasing fan interest with fans 44 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: of all ages and all different sorts of levels attention 45 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: and knowledge grow as an audience group. 46 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 5: Well, when you think about how to keep that momentum going, 47 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 5: how to keep building the sport in the US. 48 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: Do you think that F one needs a US star 49 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: to do that? 50 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: Well, I think a US star would be great, But 51 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: we don't seem to have a problem. We've had an 52 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: English star, we've had a Dutch star, and we have 53 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: a lot of people who love Lando Norris or Carlos 54 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: Signs or Charles Lecleric. So there's interest in all nationalities. 55 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: That doesn't seem to have stopped a lot of interest 56 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: in the sport. 57 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 5: And so let's talk about to how Liberty actually profits 58 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 5: from this. So, as I understand it, you're the promoter 59 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 5: for Vegas, so you have direct ownership of the actual race. 60 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 5: How does that turn into a profit and what's the 61 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 5: timeline there. 62 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 3: Well, we have a bunch of big revenue streams as 63 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: Formula one. We've got broadcasts, We've got sponsorship, we have 64 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 3: promoter fees where the promoter pays us a fee. There 65 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: may be some overrides for success. In this case, we 66 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: are the promoter. We are taking in all of the 67 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: local sponsorship, we are taking in all of the ticketing money, 68 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 3: we're taking in the hospitality. We will share that with 69 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: the teams. Obviously, after expenses, we'll share that with the teams. 70 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: Greg I got to ask you about Andretti. Of course, 71 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: this is another team that the FIA has approved, but Liberty, 72 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: as the commercial holder of the race, hasn't yet done so, 73 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: and we know that there's some concerns among other team 74 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: principles that maybe are against expanding the grid. 75 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: Do you think it is inevitable? 76 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: No, nothing's inevitable. 77 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: I think there's a process which Formula one will go through. 78 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 4: We will look at what a new team can offer. 79 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: We're blessed with ten very strong teams, a lot of excitement, 80 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: but we'll look at how a new team, which would 81 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: be sharing in the growth and sharing in the profitability 82 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: of the sport. We'll look and see how what they 83 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: can bring to the table and whether the best entrant 84 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: to expand our team roster. 85 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: What are the terms that you're considering. 86 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what kind of timeline are you operating 87 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: under it in thinking of making a decision here. 88 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: Oh, I think you'll see it over the next several months. 89 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: But we don't have a set deadline, and so greg. 90 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 5: I also want to talk about pretty much the sport 91 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,839 Speaker 5: more broadly, are you seeing more people try to come 92 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 5: in and buy F one teams? 93 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: What does that look like? 94 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely so. 95 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 3: Liberty has been involved with F one for about seven 96 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: years now, and literally when we started, the bottom team 97 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: got sold for one pound. Manner went into a receivership 98 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: in the UK equivalent of bankruptcy and no one would 99 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: buy them. 100 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: And now the bottom teams. 101 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: Are probably worth close to a billion dollars, maybe seven 102 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: fifty seven hundred and fifty million dollars, and the top 103 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: teams are probably worth three billion. We've seen an explosion 104 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: in prices and we've seen a huge growth in demand. 105 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: Most recently, an investor group bought into Alpen, including people 106 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: like Rory McElroy and Ryan Reynolds. So not only do 107 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: we have a lot of investor interests, we have a 108 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: lot of a highly pro high profile investor interests. 109 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: More investor interest means an expansion of the sport. 110 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: Of course, I hate to go back to the idea. 111 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: Of an eleventh team here, but I do wonder the 112 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: environmental considerations of widening the grid as one. I'm sure 113 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: this is something you think about as well. What kind 114 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: of emissions, pollutions, logistics challenges does that present, and how 115 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: do you think through doing the due diligence for that. 116 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the eleventh team is just part of 117 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: our One of the considerations is that we have a 118 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: twenty thirty zero carbon plan. We'll have in the new 119 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 3: engine in twenty twenty six comes forth, which is a 120 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 3: hybrid engine that'll be with a sustainable fuel. But we're 121 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: looking to make the whole ecosystem environmentally friendly. Eleventh team 122 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: may stress that and add to that a little, but 123 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: I don't think we can absorb that for the right 124 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: team because we have a plan that I think is 125 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: very sound. 126 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 5: All Right, Greg, it's great to get some time with 127 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 5: you really appreciate it. That is Greg Mfay, of course, 128 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 5: the president and CEO of Liberty Media.