1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, January six. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Fields Auto Group and now 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: a guy who just declared for the draft or Stout 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: ale I P. A. Pilsner, J. P. Shad Rick, all 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: of the above Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Wednesday, 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: presented by the Fields Auto Group JP Shadrick. Bucky Brooks 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: coming up. We have a busy, busy, busy show. There's 8 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: a lot going on around Jaguars landed this week. Will 9 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: here from Bucky coming up in a moment shot con 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: setting the course for the week's ahead. We'll take a 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: look at some of the comments from the Jaguars owner 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: earlier this week. General manager candidates, that list continues to build, 13 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: as does the head coaching candidate list as well. Franchise 14 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: quarterback mentioned by Mr Khan a handful of times in 15 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: his comments Monday, and one of those potential draftees has 16 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: declared for the NFL Draft. Will get into that, and yes, 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: social questions. We put out the bat signal earlier today 18 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: and we've got some submissions that we will get to. 19 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: John oser out today. He'll be back with us in 20 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: the near future and Bucky Brooks is with us today 21 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, and a lot going on around the 22 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: Jaguars this week. Bucky gm search continues. The head coaching 23 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: list rows shot con spoke, the quarterbacks come out of Clemson, 24 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: here we go. We're off and running. We are often 25 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: running one. And the Jaguars can be excited about what 26 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: the future should bring about. And so it starts with 27 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: hiring a general manager and a head coach and then 28 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: beginning to attack the draft and free agency and all 29 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: those things. And so even though twenty this season was horrible, 30 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: I think their play any of reasons to be optimistic 31 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: by the future. And by the way Tony Basselli named 32 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame finalists, absolutely that that was terrific. 33 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: Teammate Tony Boselli is one of the final fifth team. 34 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: We'll see if he's able to get in. January nineteenth 35 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: is the date the selectors will meet, not the day 36 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl. They'll do it virtually this year, 37 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: and normally that would be a headline the top story 38 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: of Basselli's a finalist. With all this happening, it's not 39 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: but congratulations to Tony. Certainly, our colleague here on Jaguars 40 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: Happy Hour on Mondays and Thursdays, and of course Jaguars 41 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: radio analysts. Let's get to it. Let's start off Bucky 42 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: with the comments of shot Con this week. We'll break 43 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: down a few different points today from the Jaguars owner. 44 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: And you know, he relieved Doug Moronovous duties about nine 45 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: o'clock on Monday morning on Black Monday, and then ten 46 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: thirty or so met the media to discuss the football 47 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: matters moving ahead. First off, he talked about what he's 48 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: looking for in head coach and GM candidates, and you'll 49 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: see it on your screen here the full uh comment 50 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: and the one that the part of this Bucky that 51 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: I take out the most is a proven leader who 52 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: understands not only the basics football blocking and tackling, but 53 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: more importantly modern football, the new football, but handling the 54 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: twenty one century athlete. At the same time, we know 55 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: what happened around here the last couple of years where 56 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: some of the twenty first century athletes that were here 57 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: didn't want to be here anymore. That whole mindset has 58 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: to change, and Mr Conn, I think, really kind of 59 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: set the tone for what he's looking for, and that's 60 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: a big piece of it relating to this type of 61 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: player in in this world frame right now. Yeah, Look, 62 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: the head coaching job is so much more than just 63 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: calling plays and being a guy who has an expertise 64 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: when it comes to xs and ohs. It is a 65 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: communication deal. It's a job that you have to be 66 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: our relationships. You have to convince uh Phase three people 67 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: to get moving in the right direction. And so it's 68 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: really important that when you are looking and examining and 69 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: determining which head coaching candidate is the right one, is 70 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: that he is able to check off a bunch of boxes. 71 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: He's a leader, he's organized, He's able to really articulate 72 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: a clear plan for how this team is going to 73 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: play in the players that he wants on the team. 74 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: He's able to challenge players while also encouraging them and 75 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: getting them to believe into the culture of the program. 76 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: And then it's about his ability to solve problems that 77 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: come along each and every season because it's inevitable you 78 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: have to get through some things to be able to advance. 79 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: And so I believe Shotgun is better equipped to get 80 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: the head coach right this time because he's gone through it. 81 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: He's seen it. He's been able to observe it and 82 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: he understands the way that the football world has changed 83 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: as it relates to the athlete. This will be the 84 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: fourth head coach under his ownership coming up that's since twelve. 85 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: That is quite a bit of change, of course, like 86 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: Malarkey had one year twelve, Gus Bradley had a handful 87 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 1: of years, Doug Maron just finished his fourth your plus 88 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: so plenty of changes there and in three different ways 89 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: to really go about it. Three different personalities of head 90 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: coaches in those three Bucky, Yeah, three different personalities and 91 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: you know, um, they come in different sizes and shapes 92 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: and leadership styles and those things. But I I feel 93 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: like what Shaw wants to do is do a reset 94 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: on the entire franchise and make sure that we have 95 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: a very positive, um and encouraging franchise, one that really 96 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: represents the franchise in the city well. And then I 97 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: think when it comes to the head coach, I think 98 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: he wants to kind of have that buzzer, that energy 99 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: like we see it sometimes when we watch other teams, 100 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: we see the energy that they have, and I think 101 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: the main thing is what is our culture? Who are 102 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: we what are the Jaguars about? And is that I 103 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: guess what we are about doesn't reflect the city. And 104 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where it's a bid job. 105 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: It's a job that I think the coach needs to 106 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: be mature. He needs to have a proven plan, a 107 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: plan that maybe we've already seen play out once before, 108 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: so we don't have to kind of go through some 109 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: of these growing pains that we've seen others end it 110 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: where they're trying to build up their franchises. It's very 111 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: rare when you have a true blank slate as an 112 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: NFL organization, and that's exactly what this is for shot 113 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: Con new GM new head coach, number one overall pick. 114 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: There's not a franchise quarterback in place, and you can 115 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: really it is as blank of a slate as you 116 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: can find in the National Football League. That doesn't really 117 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: happen too often. No, it doesn't happen. But here's what 118 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: we'll see as we look at the playoffs, because I 119 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: think there's a lot to be gleamed from the teams 120 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: that are in the postseason. We obviously want to be 121 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: in the postseason. We want to be a team that 122 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: is consistently in the tournament. And so if you look 123 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: at the teams that are there, it's not a coincidence 124 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: that you see a level coaches with a level quarterbacks. 125 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: And so Sean has an opportunity to get uh five 126 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: star coach and with a five star quarterback and build 127 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: a team around those two people. And so this is 128 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: a great opportunity for the Jaguars to really bounce back, 129 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: kind of reinvent themselves and become a team that is 130 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: parentally in the postseason and talked about as one of 131 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: the best teams in the league. J P. Shadwick, Bucky 132 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: Brooks Jaguars Happy Hour presented by the Fields Auto Group 133 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: and now another comment from Jaguars owner's shot com about 134 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: the time frame of these hires and the flow charts, 135 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: and this is quite interesting. It's what has been happening 136 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: the last year or so around here where the GM 137 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: and the head coach would report to shot con equally 138 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: and separately. And you see on your screen there some 139 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: of the reasoning behind that from the Jaguars owner. You 140 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: have the transparency and the needs and concerns of both 141 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: parties without getting filtered or a chain of command. And 142 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: basically he said a little later when it comes to 143 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 1: the decision maker and of the hiring process and all that. Well, 144 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: you're looking at him and shot Gun was the only 145 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: one on the screen. So, um, what do you think 146 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: of this set up in the flow chart of things here? 147 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: How many other organizations do it like this? Well, I mean, 148 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: I think you want to do it like that. When 149 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: you're the owner, everything needs to run past you, particularly 150 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: the big decisions. And so um, I think what Shod 151 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: is doing is he's making sure that he is very, 152 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: very involved in the product and what the product looks 153 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: like going forward. And so we talked about culture and 154 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: we're here. Culture talked about a number of times as 155 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: we continue to go through this process with coaches and 156 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: general managers. But what Shod wants to do is he 157 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: wants to impress upon the general manager and the head 158 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: coach what the expectations are when it comes to who 159 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: the Jaguars are and what they represent. Now, as a 160 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: general manager and a coach, you have the freedom to 161 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: kind of do that within your own style, but there's 162 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: a certain few there are few traits that this team 163 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: must exhibit. When I watched him play out, and he 164 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: wants to be um intimately involved in that and he 165 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: should as the owner of a bill you know, the 166 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: team now, Bucky. A lot of folks when Mr Khan 167 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: was talking on Monday reacted when he said, and yeah, 168 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm involved. I want to be. There was a 169 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: commentary earlier in his comments about his involvement in the 170 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: process and the football process, and a lot of people 171 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: took that as, oh, my goodness, he's Jerry Jones. He's 172 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: going to run everything. He's picking guys and all that. 173 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: And later in that video conference he uh explained a 174 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: little more in depth about his role here. It's more 175 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: of an overseer. If big moves are to happen. He 176 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: used to be involved and and have a final say 177 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: in things, and that might have, for lack of a 178 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: better term, not slipped past the goalie in years past, 179 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: maybe some of the smaller deals contracts. Well, the buck 180 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: is gonna stop with Shod Khan no matter what. Now, 181 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: it's not. This is not a Jerry Jones situation though, 182 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: where Mr Jones is all over everything. No, I don't 183 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: think it's that. But I would say, based on my 184 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: experiences in dealing with it in Carolina when I was 185 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: with the Carolina Panthers. Mr Richardson was very involved. Um, 186 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: it had to run past Mr Richardson when it was 187 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: a big decision, whether it's a big free agent signing 188 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: or the top draft picks and who we're bringing in, 189 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: like you had to run it past. And because there's 190 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: certain things and standards that the owner wanted from the 191 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: players that really occupied those prominent roles as a marquee 192 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: free agent or the face of the franchise or whatever. 193 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: And so I think what Shot is doing is after 194 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: being in the league for a number of years, I 195 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: think he has a better understanding of the league of 196 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: running a team, and he wants to make sure that 197 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: he puts his fingerprints on this franchise, the way this 198 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: team plays and the way they've represent the community. Because 199 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: it's been a long time since the Jaguars had been 200 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: consistent winners. He wants to get back to that. Well, 201 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,239 Speaker 1: the one of the quickest ways to become a consistent 202 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: winner is to find a franchise quarterback. And Mr Khan 203 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: numerous times in his comments made that point on Monday, 204 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: and you know that obviously shows that he knows exactly 205 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: the route that he wants to go early in this draft, 206 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: and you know it wasn't just a one time all. 207 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: We need a franchise quarterback, he explained for eight years, 208 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: this franchise has not had one the last eight years. 209 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: To see at the bottom of your screen there, it's 210 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: very very important. Earlier in his comments, um, you know 211 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: what's invaded the Jaguars has been a franchise quarterback and 212 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: they have the ability now to make that choice, and 213 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: it's going to define the franchise moving forward. If there 214 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: was any if there was any doubt what the Jaguars 215 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: are doing at number one, first off, you haven't been listening. Second, 216 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: that should be gone now after these comments. Yeah, I 217 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: think I think it's it's reagularly apparent. I talked about 218 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: it earlier. There's not a coincidence that the teams that 219 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: are in the playoffs half franchise quarterbacks. Every team, with 220 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: the exception of maybe the Chicago Bears, has someone that 221 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: you really feel great about being your franchise quarterback. And 222 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: so it is important that you get the right head coach, 223 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: you pay them. With the right quarterback, your chances of 224 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: entering the tournament each and every year they go up. 225 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: Now you have to build around them. You gotta put 226 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: the defense and the weapons around them on offense to 227 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: make it work. But it is a lot easier when 228 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: you know that you have uh an elite coach and 229 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: you surround them or pairing with an elite quarterback. And 230 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: I think in this draft there's someone that has at 231 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: the top of the draft that's certainly has the bubility 232 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: to be elite quarterback in this league for a long time. 233 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: That is a professional segue into our next thought about 234 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and one in particular that has declared for the 235 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: NFL Draft this morning, Trevor Lawrence out of Clemson University 236 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: is leaving. He's going to the NFL Draft. In a 237 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: really well crafted video this morning, by the way, on 238 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: social media, you see his numbers in his college career. 239 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: Sixty passer over ten thousand yards in three seasons. That's 240 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: pretty decent touchdown to interception ratio as well, ninety touchdown, 241 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: seventeen picks, and he scored eighteen touched hounds on the ground. 242 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy runner up this year. He has been the 243 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: um pretty much consensus number one pick for the last 244 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: couple of years in NFL talking circles. Well, now we're 245 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: just a few months away. It seems bucky from that 246 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: becoming reality. Yeah. Absolutely, And I think this is a 247 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: perfect guy to usher in a new era of Jaguars football. 248 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: And we can talk about the talent because he is everything. 249 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: I mean. He is a five star playmaker. He has 250 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: a big time arm, he's athletic, he can make every 251 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: throw that you want to see, and he still can 252 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: play in a new school style. And then he is 253 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: the what I'll call the epitome of a leader. He 254 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: is a guy who rallies his teammates together. We saw 255 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: the initiative and the leadership ability that he displayed this 256 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: spring when it came to trying to get his team 257 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: back to playing and handling some of the things that 258 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: were going on around the country. He stepped up and 259 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: he did that. And so when I think about the 260 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: face of the franchise and what you want to entrust, 261 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: uh that to terms of your franchise, quarterback Trevor Lawrence 262 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: embodies all of those things. Very mature. Football is important. 263 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: He loves it and he loves the game as much 264 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: as the head coach and everybody around him loves the game. 265 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: And so I mean, you talk about hitching your wagon 266 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: to someone who really can bring the Jaguars back to prominence. 267 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is is the right quarterback to go after 268 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: but Bucky. But the All State Sugar Bowl the other 269 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: night this past Friday, you know, that's the argument. A 270 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: lot of people said all Fields might have gotten closer 271 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: to him, and you had said this a few weeks back. 272 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: The Fields was closer to Lawrence and a lot of 273 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: people were giving him credits for. And we saw in 274 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: that game in New Orleans on Friday night what Justin 275 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: Fields can do. Not only the numbers, which are fantastic 276 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: obviously look at him right here, six touchdown passes, my goodness, 277 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: but the way they came, the way he played that game, 278 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: after taking the shot in the ribs and fighting through 279 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: it getting back. I'm sure he was shot up with something. 280 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: But either way, he's back in the game, fighting through 281 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: for his team. Um, did he did he close the gap? 282 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: For you? Is the jury out or is it just 283 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: too far gone that Trevor is the guy? No? No, 284 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: I think these guys have always been really really close, right, 285 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: And I think that if you go back and track 286 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: their history from the time they were in high school 287 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: all the way up, they've always been number one and 288 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: number two, and it's always been. It's been flip flops. 289 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes Fields has been one, sometimes Lawrence has been one. 290 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: I think the differences in this situation in Jacksonville, Trevor 291 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: Lawrence has played three years. When you look at the 292 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: amount of throws, Trevor Lawrences maybe even dred throws compared 293 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: to Justin Fields five fifty five eight, and so he said, 294 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: double the amount of starts, doubled amount of reps when 295 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: it comes to throwing the ball in game action. And 296 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: I just think in Jacksonville, Trevor works. I just think 297 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: the maturity and exactly what Shot Hunt had outlined in 298 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: terms of a franchise quarterback. There are no questions or 299 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: reservations about Trevor Lawrence. And I'm not saying that there 300 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: are questions about Justin Fields. I just believe right now, 301 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is a brand name, something that you can 302 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: kind of trust because we've seen him perform on the 303 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: big stage. He's done it for a long time. He 304 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: exhibits all the qualities that you want. I don't believe 305 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: you want to overthink this. I think Trevor Lawrence is 306 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: to pick for the Jags. The question is does Justin 307 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: Fields go right after him to the Jets? It too, 308 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: because I think he is certainly worthy of being the 309 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: next guy off the board. All Right, the conversation is 310 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: off and running, and it is only going to build 311 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: up as we move along. I'm sure when we come back, though, 312 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: we'll start the conversation about the GM candidates that have 313 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: been reported. We've talked about this on this show in 314 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: the past. Some of those guys that have been listed 315 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: will add to that list a little later. Head coaching talking, 316 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: including a certain former Ohio State in Florida head coach 317 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: that has been rumored around the Jaguars as well. We'll 318 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: take your social questions as well. Coming up, and we're 319 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: off and running. It's a Wednesday edition of Jaguars Happy Hour, 320 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: presented by the Fields Auto Group on the Jaguars Digital Network. 321 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: Jaguar Happy Hours presented in part by t i A, 322 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: a bank created to serve, built to perform publics where 323 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: shopping is a pleasure and Baptist Health changing healthcare for good. 324 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: You can step up to luxury now. 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You were on um Jags Twitter, were on 357 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: Jack's Facebook, We're on Jaguar's YouTube, and I was told 358 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: during the break we had a comment I think on 359 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 1: the YouTube page that the Jags should draft Jack Wilson 360 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: number one. I mean, Zack Wilson is a good player, 361 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: but I would put Zack Wilson in the same category 362 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: as Trevor Lawrence. And I think this is a unique 363 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: year where we have a bunch of really good quarterbacks 364 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: that should be able to pop right away. But Trevor 365 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: Lawrence is different um compared to Zack Wilson. Trevor Lawrence 366 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: has been forced to play on a big stage his 367 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: entire time, his entire career, he has been up on 368 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: the the scope and he has thrived under that intense scrutiny. 369 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: I think for Zack Wilson, Zack Wilson kind of flew 370 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: under the radar and kind of this year was the 371 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: year that he emerged. Really good player, terrific arm talent, 372 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: has the athleticism that you like. But I think it's 373 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of a differ price between Trevor Lawrence 374 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: and Zack Wilson. That's why I would take Trevor Larns. 375 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: They'd have to check his learners permit at the combine 376 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: to make sure he's eligible too. He's just look really 377 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: young guy. Yeah he looks young. He has a boy's face, 378 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: but he's a talented prospect. I think we could see 379 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks go bang Bay bang at the top of 380 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: the draft, but the first one to go to be 381 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: number sixteen for Clempson Trevor Lawrence, because I think he 382 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: is a difference maker. He is someone that has the 383 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: ability to reverse the fortunes of the franchise. Not completing 384 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: by himself, but with his talent in his presence, he 385 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: shortly can help this franchise go a long ways towards 386 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: back to respectability and beyond. All Right, Bucky, let's get 387 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: into the general manager candidate list. There have not been 388 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: a lot of changes since we last went through the list. 389 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: We've discussed Bulky, Jerry Reese, Lewis Riddick, and Rick Smith. 390 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: But the two additions since then at least bea reports 391 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: A Ray Farmer, former Brown's GM, and Terry Fontino from 392 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: the New Orleans. So let's start with Farmer. What's his story? Okay, 393 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: so Farmer Ray and I go all the way back 394 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: to UH College. He played a duke, spent three or 395 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: four years in the National Football League, has really worked 396 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: his way up the ladder. Had an opportunity to be 397 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: the general manager for the Browns. It was brief, but 398 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: what I will say is he is an outstanding football 399 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: mind and he also gets what I call the New 400 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: Age way of scouting, so a mix of analytics and 401 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: being able to bring all of that stuff in when 402 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: it comes to that while retaining the ability for the 403 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: desire to want to play old school physical football, and 404 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: so second time around, giving a full opportunity to do it. 405 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: I certainly think that he can succeed. And I think 406 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: he understands what it takes to build a successful franchise 407 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: because he's been around the right influencers who should enable 408 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: him to get the form that that that football vision 409 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: for how you want this franchise to play out and 410 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: be successful in the a f C South. I've seen 411 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people though, pointing to his draft record 412 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: in Cleveland and some of the players that he selected 413 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: while he was in charge there, And you know, what 414 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: do you make of all that? Is that overblown someone? No? 415 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: I mean I think that's a part of your record. 416 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 1: I think that's a part of your history. Sometimes, um, 417 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: those things don't go. And I think it's important to 418 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: kind of frame the context of the draft, like, we're 419 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: lucky if we hit on fifth percent of the guys 420 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: that we take in the draft, particularly in the first round, 421 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: and then it goes down by about ten percent with 422 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: each subsequent round. And so with Ray, like, yeah, you 423 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: have to look at some of these guys and look 424 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: at some of those that were drafted, and then also 425 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: understand how much did ownership play, particularly in those first 426 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: first round, those first picks. Did Ray actually get a 427 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: chance to pull the trigger or was that an ownership decision? 428 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: And so, yeah, it's on his record. It has to 429 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: be discussed. But I think sometimes guys can learn a 430 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: lot from the mistakes that make when it comes to 431 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: selecting players. Wasn't that the story that the Brown's owner 432 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: was told on the way in that day, Hey, you 433 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: need to draft Johnny Man's by somebody in the street, right, Yes, yeah, 434 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: that that that has something to do with like you 435 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: talk about it, and it didn't go well, and I 436 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: think he was drafted over the objections of some others 437 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: that were in the building, the coach, the general manager, 438 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: scouting staff. And sometimes you know, if ownership wants something 439 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: to happen, then you have to go with that and 440 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: try and support the player the best that you can. Yeah, 441 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: but Ray, it has to be talked about. But there 442 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: are a lot of guys who will come in an 443 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: interview who have had some issues and some failures when 444 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: it comes to free agent signings and draft picks. And well, 445 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: if you have, you haven't been an executive everybody has failure. 446 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: Everybody There's no perfect way to do it. I think 447 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: the bigger thing is can the candidate clearly articulate the 448 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: vision for the team and what he wants to build. 449 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: Can he give you a plan for how to build 450 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: this team up. Is he someone who can work with 451 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: a coach too, kind of create a cooperation that enables 452 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: two people to kind of build this thing together and 453 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: move forward. And so it is one of the things 454 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: that sometimes you know so much more the second time 455 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: around than the first time around. I think it would 456 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: be better equipped to handle the responsibilities this time around, 457 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: all right. And the other name, Terry Fontino, has been 458 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: with the Saints for sixteen years and a number of 459 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: different capacities, the most recently as director of Pro Scouting. 460 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,479 Speaker 1: So he's a Saint through and through. This will be 461 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: his first shot at the big chair. Yeah, it will 462 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: be his first shot at the big chair. But I 463 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: would say if you looked at how the Saints had 464 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: played the last ten or so years, particularly once Drew 465 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: Brees came on, they've been a consistent team, a team 466 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: that is always in the mix. And if you look 467 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: at the most recent version of the Saints they've nailed 468 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: it in the draft, and even though he was on 469 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: the pro side, he has worked hand in hand with 470 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: Jeff Arland, who was one of the best in the 471 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: business when it comes to selecting players, and so I 472 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: think he understands what it looks like, what it should 473 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: feel like in building a championship team, and then it's 474 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: about surrounding himself with a football minds that enable him 475 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: to take that plan to he creates and put it 476 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: in the action. Okay, Bucky, the GM talk is done 477 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: for now. Those are the two latest editions and we'll 478 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: see if any more names pop up in the coming days. 479 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: But that is a pretty sizeable lists so far. We'll 480 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: come back making a sizeable lists the head coaching candidates. Boy, 481 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: that has blown up in the last week or so. 482 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: We'll get to those when we come back. And this 483 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by the Fields Auto Group 484 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. 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Glad you're along with us today. 520 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot of noise around, of course, the Jaguars 521 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: head coaching gig that opened on Monday, and Jaguar's owner 522 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: Shot con I was asked about the Urban Meyer rumors 523 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: on Monday and said, you know, I've known Urban for 524 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: a long time. Around the big tent, Mr CON's a 525 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: big supporter at Illinois, of course, and um, you know 526 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: he said he had not talked to anyone about the 527 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: job because there was not a job yet. Doug Moron 528 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: was still the head coach. And as you see in 529 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: your screen here, these are the reported names that have 530 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: interviewed or are slated to interview with the Jacksonville Jaguars. 531 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: Let's start with Urban. That's the biggest name, at least 532 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: in the last few days around this Jaguars organization and 533 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: the opening at head coach. And you know it's the 534 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: flashiest of the names. Bucky I'll say that it would 535 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: be a huge jump to go to the NFL. But 536 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: as we've talked about before, he has built programs in 537 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: a number of different places at so many different levels 538 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: of college football and has done it time and time again. 539 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: Can that translate as a program builder in the NFL? Yeah, 540 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: I can't translate as a program builder because you've done 541 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: it before. You understand what it's like to take teams 542 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: that are down and kind of revitalized him. He did 543 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: it at Bold and Green, he turned around Utah, he 544 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: turned around Florida, and he took Ohio State to INAPT 545 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: some title so he has a proven formula that works. Now, 546 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: I would say this, the pro game is completely different 547 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: than the college game. But players are players, and it's 548 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: some people business. And can you enlighten, motivate and inspire 549 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: those guys to to to get them to play for 550 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: the team and to play at a higher level. He's 551 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: proven to be able to do that. That said, there's 552 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: some things that need to come along with urban for 553 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: this to be able to work. He has to be 554 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: able to identify and experience personnel man that can help 555 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: him uh with the draft and free agency and identifying 556 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: the right players to play the way that he wants 557 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: to play. He has to build relationships with coaches to 558 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: have the right coaches that understand the pro game in 559 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 1: relations to because it different than college and so you 560 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: have to make sure that he has those things. And 561 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: then the final thing, and maybe the most important thing, 562 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: is how long is he committed to the process. How 563 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: long is he willing to endure maybe some of the 564 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 1: rough patches that you have to endure to get to 565 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: the other side. He has been one to kind of 566 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: do it quickly then get out if I'm shot, Khan, 567 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: I need assurances that he's going to be here for 568 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: a while, because you don't want to be right back 569 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: in this search to three years down the line because 570 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: urban Meyer decides two or three an I'm I'm ready 571 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: to move on to something else right now. That's um, 572 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: that's what the interview processes for. And there are reports 573 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: out there that maybe he'll report our interview later in 574 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: the week. I didn't see the exact day though, but 575 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: apparently that process is starting. We see numbers thrown around there, 576 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: and then it was disputed by your guy. Rappaport was like, no, 577 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: it's not that number, so who knows. Yeah, but but 578 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: the number has to be hot because if if I'm 579 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: Urban Mind, just looking at it, Matt Rule commanded maybe 580 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: nine million dollars from the Carolina Panthers annually. Matt Rule 581 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: doesn't have any rings or shiny things or any hardware 582 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: in his office, and so if I'm Herbert Mayer, I 583 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: can't go in for less than that. And then you 584 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: factor in a year and inflation and then cost of 585 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: living a right there, JP, we're at eleven and twelve 586 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: million dollars. So that's how you end up getting to 587 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: that number. It's not like he has many flashy things 588 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: from college either rule, you know, I mean, it doesn't everything, 589 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: so I can I can imagine that Urban's representatives would 590 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: look at that and say, I mean, that's a nice 591 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: starting point, but we have so much more on the 592 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: resume that we command a little more. All right. A 593 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: few other of these other names that have popped up 594 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: in the last few days. Eric B. Enemy apparently reportedly 595 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: interviewed today with not only the Jaguars, but the Jets, 596 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: And I think he's on most every team's radar that 597 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: has an opening this year. And the Enemy has been 598 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: a hot name for the last couple of years, obviously 599 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs success on the offensive side of the football, 600 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: and it seems like he's going to get a shot 601 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: somewhere this year. Why should it be here for B Enemy? Well, 602 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean one, I think he's very, very intrigued by 603 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: the job to When I think about Eric B. Enemy, 604 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: he's a leader, He's a natural leader. He's a guy 605 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: that really commands the room. He does a really good 606 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: job up in terms of getting guys to play at 607 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: at at a very high level. If you look at 608 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: the track record of the guys that have been under 609 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: his direction, they've all played really well, going all the 610 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: way back to Adrian Peterson, Jamal Charles and Kent City, 611 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: the running backs that they've been able to throw in 612 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: there and have success. And yes, he is the offensive coordinator, 613 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: and we can talk about Andy Reid calling the plays, 614 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: but every b enemy deals with the quarterback. We've seen 615 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes play at a high level, and so I 616 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: think he is the right mix in terms of being 617 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: able to challenge players but bring out that confidence and 618 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: that excellence in them. And I think he also understands 619 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: how to build the entire team, because yes, he says, 620 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: going all the way back to college in Colorado on 621 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: the Bill McCartney on the national title, so he understands 622 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: what the championship team looks like. I send a couple 623 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: other of these guys while we're here today with you, Bucky, 624 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: And you know, we know Robert slow Well around here. 625 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: He was on the defensive coaching staff here a few 626 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: years now, the forty Honors defensive coordinator. And he was 627 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: in the interview rounds last year, the interview for the 628 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: Browns for sure, and probably a couple of other teams 629 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: if I can't remember exactive they are. So he's back 630 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: in that process again this year. It feels like he's 631 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: gonna get a gig at least somewhere. Arthur Smith is 632 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: on every single team that has an opening, He's getting 633 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: an interview. I don't you know, maybe be enemy will 634 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: be on every list, but on every single list is 635 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: fairly rare too. Yeah, Arthur Smith is a good one. 636 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: And and and here here's why. One. He's a tar heel, 637 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: so I always have to support and endorse, but I 638 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: would say this his story is really unique. His dad, 639 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: for As Smith is obviously the founder and owner of FedEx, 640 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: but Arthur has never utilized that to kind of make 641 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: his mark in football. He has been a guy that 642 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: has worked on both sides of the ball. He was 643 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: Gregg Williams, the former defense coordinator for the Jaguars. He 644 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,239 Speaker 1: was his defensive quality control guy in Washington, followed them 645 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: to Tennessee, moved over to offense, went from tight ends 646 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: coach to offensive coordinator, and you look at how this 647 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans offense has rolled. Ryan Tannehill has played at 648 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl level after struggling during his time in Miami. 649 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry has become a monster that we talked about 650 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: having a two thousand yard season, and being a head 651 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: coach isn't necessarily about how they call played previously. But 652 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: I think his resume would suggest that he has a 653 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: level of adaptability and experience in terms of finding ways 654 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: to put guys in positions to succeed, and a lot 655 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: of what you're doing as a head coach on both 656 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: sides of the ball is can I put my guys 657 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: in the best position to succeed and lead them into 658 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: this game and find a way to win it. And 659 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: I think Arthur has shown that he can do it, 660 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: particularly based on what he's done on offense. Mr Cohn 661 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: said this week that there's not really a timetable. They'll 662 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: just do the due diligence on all these interviews and 663 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: whenever they happened, they'll happen pretty quick in uh together, 664 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: so either the head coach first and the GM or 665 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: the GM coach within a day or two, and so 666 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: they're kind of tied together again. The only the only 667 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: thing about that approach, especially when it comes to the 668 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: head coach, the longer that you wait on the head coach, 669 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: the hard it is to assemble an a levels staff. 670 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: The first team to get in they have all the 671 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: opportunity to get all the available coordinators and position coaches. 672 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: As you continue to wait. I'm not saying you pick 673 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: in the bottom of the barrel, but you're certainly not 674 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: getting all of the available talent that is available in 675 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: the coaching rates. So if you can find your guy earlier, 676 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: it gives you an advantage to build the best staff 677 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: that you can build. Then you're going if if you're 678 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: later than you're going to plan B, Plan C. And 679 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: of course you would never say that publicly, but that's 680 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 1: kind of the way. And hey, let's come back. We've 681 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: got social questions and and one g M opening is 682 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: already filled in the National Football League and it's in 683 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: the a f C South and it has a Patriots 684 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: feel to it. We're back in a moment. 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There's been a lot going on this 719 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: week around the Jacksonville Jaguars in the division though on 720 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: the a f C south of Houston, Texans had a 721 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: GM and coach opening. Nick cassi Areo is the hier 722 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: at GM. He is out of the New England Patriots. 723 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: Jack Easterby was involved in the hiring process down there 724 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: in Houston, formerly of the New England Patriots. Apparently the 725 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: corn Ferry Search firm was involved, but I'm not sure 726 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: if Casirio was on that list or not. Bucky, how 727 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: about this higher in Houston? What do you make of well, 728 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's more of the same in 729 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: Houston because Bill O'Brien came also out of that system. 730 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 1: There were other guys that have been in that system 731 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: that we're part of the Texans, and so I don't 732 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: know how much it changes. Then. I think it's a 733 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: little surprising that Nick wasn't on corn Ferries list, but 734 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: he somehow not only isn't with anybody isn't with the job. 735 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: And so it's it's one of those things. And so 736 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: now with the Texas, who is the coach? Is he 737 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: going to bring in someone who also has ties to 738 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots? That would be Josh McDaniels or Brian day 739 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: ball Um and and and so now I just wonder 740 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: how much different is this program than it was under 741 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien. Normally, when teams change and change the football's 742 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: are or the head coach, they look to go a 743 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: different direction. But the Houston Texans are kind of doing 744 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: the same thing. And we'll see if it works out 745 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: better for them. We'll see. It's a big hill to 746 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: climb down in Houston. No draft picks. Um they do 747 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: at the quarterback who led the league in passing yardage 748 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: this year, and that's about it. There's not a lot 749 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: that's about it in Houston these days. And let's get 750 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: the social media questions. We haven't done that on this 751 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: show right now. We we put out that, we put 752 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: them out this morning. Here's what we come up with 753 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: today from Adam Darry eleven. Is a better formula to 754 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: hire a head coach first and then decided a GM 755 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: or vice versa. I know, Bucky, we've talked about this 756 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: time and time again, but in general, what is your view? 757 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, these guys have to work as partners 758 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: and so you can go either way, like if you 759 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 1: hire the GM, g M has the coach. If you're 760 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: the head coach, like we've seen you hot to do 761 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: when they brought in Pete Carroll then he played a 762 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: role in hiring John Snyder, it can work. I think 763 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 1: the main thing there has to be a partnership and 764 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: these guys have to see football uh with the same vision, 765 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: because if you have guys who are thinking about the 766 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: game playing out differently, it just makes it hard and 767 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: you have to have agreement on players and style and 768 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: all those things. And so it's just really really important 769 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: that when you hire one and you bring on the 770 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: other that those guys are attached at the hip and 771 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 1: their in lockstep in terms of how to build a team. 772 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 1: Ego always gets involved. It feels like, you know, everybody 773 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: wants credit when things go well, and when it doesn't 774 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 1: go well, they don't want to take granted for it. 775 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: You know, that's how it works. And that the other 776 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: guy did this, not that not me, It wasn't me. 777 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: It was that kind of pointing fingers, but that that 778 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,439 Speaker 1: cannot be the case. Well, no, I can't be the case. 779 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: And I think that's why shot I kind of put 780 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: out this statement when he said that he is ultimately 781 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: the decision maker that both roles report to him. And 782 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: because you're trying to eliminate some of that tattletale stuff 783 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: can go on in the office where you have the 784 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: gentleman or manager walking up to the ownership and talking 785 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: about where the coaches aren't doing this, and the coach 786 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: walking up to ownership and saying, the general managers not 787 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: give me any players. I can't do what I want 788 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: to do because I don't have the personnel you want 789 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: to eliminate that these guys really have to be aligned 790 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: and they have to be on the same page. When 791 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: it comes to build in the team, acquiring the players 792 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 1: that are necessary to make this vision come to life. 793 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: I guess what if they lose, then they'll all get 794 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: blacked anyway. So that's how that's how it or that 795 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: works in the NFL. Unfortunately, let's go to our next 796 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,919 Speaker 1: question from at b k L then the offer. I'm 797 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: not sure how to say that, but take your guest, 798 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 1: Bucky Um, should they let Cam Robinson go? M left 799 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: tack and I don't know if it's necessarily a lack 800 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: of white answer. I think you have to hold a 801 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 1: line in terms of what you're willing to pay Cam 802 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: Robinson before you you let him go. We talked about 803 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,479 Speaker 1: the two picks that we're have in the first round 804 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: where that can be the first one obviously is number one. 805 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: It somewhere in the bottom teams where we can have 806 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: that second one where there plenty of offensive tackles in 807 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: this draft. And so if he gets a little pricy 808 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 1: to retain Cam Robson, you can let him go. Bring 809 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: somebody else in and plug and play, and let's go 810 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: about franchise tag him. What's the number on that this year? 811 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: I don't even know, man, I don't know what that 812 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: number would be, but I think it would be kind 813 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: of pricing maybe. I think probably like twelve or so. 814 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 1: Many haven't seen the new numbers in the cap sometimes 815 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: changes it. But if you want to keep him on 816 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: a one year deal and just kind of wait and see, 817 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if he has played at a level 818 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 1: where you are willing to dump a whole lot into him, 819 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: because I don't know if you know exactly what you're 820 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 1: getting the franchise tag maybe the way they go Our 821 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: next question, I don't even think it's a question. Actually, 822 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 1: there is a question to here from at Jacob ryan 823 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: Hart too. Can you guys do more shows in the 824 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: off season? So that's the question, and the answer is yes. 825 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: Also j P. Let's do what we gotta do to 826 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 1: get Bucky back for next season. Love and appreciate you 827 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: guys doing the show. Is a great sense of normalcy 828 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: this years. Yeah, I appreciate that. That's in the night 829 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: Where's Yeah, we're coming back. We canna do more stuff 830 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: with the Jags. We're gonna make it happy because look, 831 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: we went through the rough time JP. I I gotta 832 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: see the product goal at the end of the rainbow, 833 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: like right, like right now, right now, privately, I feel 834 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: like I'm not a lucky charm. Fifteen straight als on 835 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: my resume like it, it takes a lot for me 836 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: to get back over five. So yeah, I need to 837 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: be here for a while to make sure I get 838 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: my record right. You're in for the long haul. This 839 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: is not a one and done for Bucky Brooks. Fortunately 840 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 1: for us, We're gonna have him around all offseason doing 841 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,439 Speaker 1: different things. Where the process of working that out right now? 842 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: One final question, um, and it has to do with 843 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: football from at Jordan's Stancil and it's about the head 844 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,919 Speaker 1: coaching opening and it's a name that we didn't see 845 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,919 Speaker 1: on the list. Thoughts on Joe Brady as potential head 846 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 1: coach of the Jaguars. This is speaking of a rising 847 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: stars in the profession. Joe Brady is moving up as 848 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: quickly as you can imagine, you know, JP not as 849 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: surprise that he's rising. I think it's probably a meteoric 850 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 1: rise for someone who went from me on a quality 851 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: control guy for the New Orleans Saints to being not 852 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,879 Speaker 1: even really the coordinator l s U the passing game guy, 853 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: to being a one year coordinated with the Panthers too 854 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: now he's on the circuit interviewer for head jobs. Here's 855 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: what I would say about Joe Brady. He's young, he's dynamic, 856 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: he's creative. He does a really good job of making 857 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: the game easy. He did particularly for Joe burrow Um 858 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: and so he has some experience. But man, you have 859 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: to surround him with so many veteran coaches so that 860 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: he can kind of grow into that role of being 861 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: a head coach. The reason why he's attractive though, is 862 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: if you have the play caller as you're head coach, 863 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: you're not going to lose him when the offense succeeds. 864 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: It ensures a level of continuity when it comes down 865 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 1: to the head coach coordinator in the quarterback, which is 866 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: why you see some of these young guys, these young 867 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: quarterback gurus get jobs like we've seen him, Zach Taylor 868 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: Shaw McVeigh, because you don't lose him when they get 869 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: to the offense is successful, all about the offense got 870 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: to score points in the NFL. There you have it. 871 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 1: Social questions are in and that will do it for 872 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 1: our regular regularly scheduled Wednesday Jaguars Happy hours for the 873 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 1: season now in and Bucky We're in the process of 874 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,280 Speaker 1: working on some offseason plans for shows and podcasts, and 875 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: we're glad to have you as a part of that 876 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 1: throughout the off season. And as you said just a 877 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: moment ago, the pot of Gold's coming suit stick around. 878 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a fun few months. Absolutely, Man, 879 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: I'm really excited. I'm glad to be back uh with 880 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: duvall in the Jaguars and all that stuff. And I'm 881 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: looking forward to the off season because, man, all eyes 882 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,359 Speaker 1: are will be on the Jaguars, because we have an 883 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 1: opportunity to rein in the franchise, bring in some good 884 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: players and talk about it all over again. We'll do 885 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: it again soon. Bucky, appreciate you all season long. Man 886 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 1: all right, Man, be good. Bucky Brooks out of here. 887 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 1: NFL Network analysts are thanks to Brent Roebert, TRYMP Padilla 888 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: and our entire Jaguars dot Com crew For Bucky, I'm 889 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick. Will catch you next time. This Jaguars 890 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: Happy Hour presented by the Field's Auto Group. 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